The funniest thing to me is seeing some of my self righteous member friends who freaked out over the show trailer are NOW liking IG posts about the show. 😅
Jesse is very articulate about her experience. We visited Utah a few years ago and it's such a beautiful state. Since then, I've learned about the prevailing undercurrents there. You'd never know as a tourist. Everything appears so pristine... almost too perfect.
We also “messed up” before we got married. We had to get married in the relief society room of our stake center. I wish I would’ve just gone all out and had a beautiful outdoor wedding. Hindsight is 20/20.
I got married 4 months after I met my husband because I was so terrified of this. I thought I was a freak for being a woman with sexual urges so when I met my husband and we were so attracted to each other, it felt like a race to the temple. We *barely* made it. And I’m so lucky that the stranger I married turned out to be the incredible person he was presenting as and not someone from the horror stories we hear about rushed, young Mormon marriages. I’m sure there are so many feelings attached to your wedding too. We now wish our wedding wasn’t in a temple where the only words we were allowed to exchange were “yes” not even I do and not a single personalization.
Loved the interview! Maybe the harshness comes from being a all-women cast, because "mormon wives" are supposed to be quiet, pretty, literally demure, and not strong women, bread-winners. Even social media is ok as a hobby, but not as a career. To me that was the message both in the church's statement that the show doesn't represent LDS women and also when Zac said plain and simple that he doesn't care about Jen's participation in MomTok or the potencial loss of engagement due to the move.
I was so excited to see an episode about the secret lives of Mormon wives and that JESSI is on the episode. She was so iconic on the show and hearing more about her upbringing was exactly what I wanted and more. Jessi was really well-spoken and confident, not only on the podcast but on the show. Omg I love her and cannot wait for another season. 🥰🤩🥳
Unorthodox Mormon stories are much more interesting than Orthodox ones. I'm glad people like Jessi can tell their story, despite how nasty many Latter-Day Saints are
This is a great interview! I've been out of the church for about 6 years and have recently been going through a faith deconstruction. Just finished watching the whole season with my non-member girlfriend, who is supporting me through this journey, and its been a really great experience. I relate to Jessi so much and feel she represents so many people who have left the church but still carry things with them.
I'm not a mormon, not at all religious, and I really enjoy your podcast! Thank you for such an interesting interview and more broadly the whole podcast!
“What’s going on with Dakota and Taylor and Jen and Zack and Fruity Pebbles?” Is exactly how people are reacting to the show now that it’s released. 😂🎉
Ahhh! Omg we love Jessi so much! Didn’t even realize she was an ex Mormon really. Think I forgot haha. Love her!! 💕💕 I’m a Mormon & I thought this was a great constructive conversation. Thanks girliess!
i personally would feel really uncomfortable going to a chip and dales show or with my partner going to anything similar just because of my own worldview around sex etc. and i think that’s ok too:) not shaming anyone that doesn’t feel the same way, i just felt like you guys were alluding(unintentionally) to it not being ok to set certain boundaries with your partner in a respectful way around things like these which i don’t necessarily think is productive. i don’t think jen’s husbands behaviour was justified here by any means but i just wanted to comment for anyone that felt similarly to me saying that it is also ok having boundaries around things like these as long as they are mutually agreed upon and established respectfully within your own relationship. and also you aren’t weird if going to shows like these aren’t your idea of a good time, it’s just a preference 💛💛
I’ve been watching Jessi’s hair channel for years and was so excited to see her on the show. I grew up Catholic but converted to the Mormon church during high school after a series of really difficult events. My family now feels like we were preyed upon and all of us have had our names removed from the church. I’m lucky to have gained a best friend who is now out of the church as well. This interview was fantastic.
Love this interview. I watched the entire show and loved it, and was also not surprised, but so surprised about how the men acted (you know which ones 👀). Unrelated to the pod but I follow you on socials and see your journey. Look at those 💪🏼. Looking strong Hayley!!!
Thanks for the interview, I really hope you ladies get a second season. Women talking about their experiences can only help other women in my opinion keep it going!!
Hi 👋 Never-Mo here. You have no idea the amount of times I yelled “TRUST & RESPECT” at my screen while binging the show. Seriously, the lack of empathic communication within the marriages is wild to me.
I heard about Jessi's wedding to her first husband (through a friend). We’ve been talking about her more lately because of this show. My friend said that they remembered her first husbands family doing A LOT to make the wedding super fancy and inclusive of all people (no matter their race, age, class (most people at that wedding had a lot of money), beliefs...etc). Apparently when they got married her first husband was crying as he spoke about his love for her, and when it was her turn to speak she was very cold and robotic (she did not seem in love at all for the entire wedding). And towards the end of their relationship she cheated on her first husband (and i heard it was multiple times with multiple people), she then divorced her first husband, and then re-married quickly after her divorce. She was pregnant before she got divorced to her first husband and refused (at least at the beginning) to do a paternity test. Maybe she's done one since. My friend said that when they first left the church Jessi's ex-mother in law, was LITTERALLY the FIRST person to ask them why they left and she listened to their story with a compassionate, patient, and understanding ear. She listened to them talk for hours and didn't make them feel judged once. She's never preached to them about anything. Her ex-s family were always super kind, not preachy, and very inclusive to non-Mormons and ex-Mormons from what i was told.
I’m a 53 year old fan of the show. Honestly, all the women are a bit sheltered and so sweet. I have respect for them all. Even Whitney. I feel protective of all the women too. But as a never mo, I’m more mom protective. ❤️
Jessi is my fave! I actually found out about the show from her page! Im a hairstylist myself so i actually followed her from her salon/hair posts, then i kept hearing about the show, then she was posting about it so i ended up watching it and loving it
In the 1970s the Mormon temple ceremony was pretty creepy. In one part of the ceremony we had to simulate slitting our belly and then next slitting our throats. We had to repeat in unison "I would rather slit my belly or slit my throat, than reveal the secrets of the temple " each woman that day got the same temple name. Mine was Rita. We were never supposed to tell anybody. I don't know why. It seemed awfully bizarre. Well pretty much. Everything about the Mormon. Belief is bizarre. Glad I left a long time ago.
This really connected to me as ex SDA. So much deconstructing to be done in my early 20s and feeling like I missed out on a lot. Also the pressure and guilt is so relatable 😂
@@monyabaker2190Yeah. “Culturally” would imply they grew up in the environment, tradition, practices, beliefs, philosophies, and community without necessarily believing the religion or tenant themselves.
I feel so sad that the production made Jessi seem like she didn’t give a s*** about the alcohol in the hot tub! But anyway, I loved the show! I’m a protestant and a “never mormon” but so interested in the culture of mormonism. I’ve been watching many videos about it, specially from ex mormons. So the show gave me another perspective. It was great to see mormon wives simply as women. In some ways, if you take the temple and garments off the table, it is so relatable to other christian denominations!
Interesting. In mainstream Protestantism, the church IS the people. Imperfect. Trying to be Christ-like. Love. Inclusive. I guess it’s now considered to be progressive Protestantism. But when I grew up in the 80s progressive Christianity was mainstream in Michigan.
I only disagree with the chip and dale situation..gambling and touching another man are two different things. It's more about respect for you husband to not touch or watch another man sexually. I wouldn't want my husband to go to a strip club
It can mean a whole range of things- usually sex before marriage. But sometimes even oral sex or other sexual exploration can preclude you from being able to attend the temple. It usually depends on the local leadership, as they are the ones who decide who is "worthy" or not.
sooo happy i found ur channel! as someone who lost their v at EFY when i was 13 (def lied about my age) to the 18 year old counselor….. i have a feeling i need to binge every ep
The funniest thing to me is seeing some of my self righteous member friends who freaked out over the show trailer are NOW liking IG posts about the show. 😅
YESSSSS
Jesse is very articulate about her experience. We visited Utah a few years ago and it's such a beautiful state. Since then, I've learned about the prevailing undercurrents there. You'd never know as a tourist. Everything appears so pristine... almost too perfect.
We also “messed up” before we got married. We had to get married in the relief society room of our stake center. I wish I would’ve just gone all out and had a beautiful outdoor wedding. Hindsight is 20/20.
I got married 4 months after I met my husband because I was so terrified of this. I thought I was a freak for being a woman with sexual urges so when I met my husband and we were so attracted to each other, it felt like a race to the temple. We *barely* made it. And I’m so lucky that the stranger I married turned out to be the incredible person he was presenting as and not someone from the horror stories we hear about rushed, young Mormon marriages.
I’m sure there are so many feelings attached to your wedding too. We now wish our wedding wasn’t in a temple where the only words we were allowed to exchange were “yes” not even I do and not a single personalization.
If you are still with the same person later through your dream wedding or vow renewal =)
Amazing episode- Jessi is my favorite on the show so I’m SO happy to see her here! Loved getting more of her story.
Loved the interview! Maybe the harshness comes from being a all-women cast, because "mormon wives" are supposed to be quiet, pretty, literally demure, and not strong women, bread-winners. Even social media is ok as a hobby, but not as a career. To me that was the message both in the church's statement that the show doesn't represent LDS women and also when Zac said plain and simple that he doesn't care about Jen's participation in MomTok or the potencial loss of engagement due to the move.
When he said “I don’t care” about Jen’s carrier I almost died. You hit the nail on the head I think.
I love how fast she talks
SAME! A woman after my own heart!
Fast talkers are dishonest
As a fast talker, I am so here for it! 💖
I was so excited to see an episode about the secret lives of Mormon wives and that JESSI is on the episode. She was so iconic on the show and hearing more about her upbringing was exactly what I wanted and more. Jessi was really well-spoken and confident, not only on the podcast but on the show. Omg I love her and cannot wait for another season. 🥰🤩🥳
Unorthodox Mormon stories are much more interesting than Orthodox ones. I'm glad people like Jessi can tell their story, despite how nasty many Latter-Day Saints are
This is a great interview! I've been out of the church for about 6 years and have recently been going through a faith deconstruction. Just finished watching the whole season with my non-member girlfriend, who is supporting me through this journey, and its been a really great experience. I relate to Jessi so much and feel she represents so many people who have left the church but still carry things with them.
I'm not a mormon, not at all religious, and I really enjoy your podcast! Thank you for such an interesting interview and more broadly the whole podcast!
Love this conversation!! Thank you ladies! Nothing but love!! ❤❤❤
Jessi is awesome- help get her connected with John of Mormon Stories! ❤❤
“What’s going on with Dakota and Taylor and Jen and Zack and Fruity Pebbles?” Is exactly how people are reacting to the show now that it’s released. 😂🎉
i am not mornon and never have been but it is such a fascinating religion to me and i am loving this conversation
I love hearing this! Thanks for tuning in!
I love people like her that are so self aware
Ahhh! Omg we love Jessi so much! Didn’t even realize she was an ex Mormon really. Think I forgot haha. Love her!! 💕💕 I’m a Mormon & I thought this was a great constructive conversation. Thanks girliess!
i personally would feel really uncomfortable going to a chip and dales show or with my partner going to anything similar just because of my own worldview around sex etc. and i think that’s ok too:) not shaming anyone that doesn’t feel the same way, i just felt like you guys were alluding(unintentionally) to it not being ok to set certain boundaries with your partner in a respectful way around things like these which i don’t necessarily think is productive.
i don’t think jen’s husbands behaviour was justified here by any means but i just wanted to comment for anyone that felt similarly to me saying that it is also ok having boundaries around things like these as long as they are mutually agreed upon and established respectfully within your own relationship. and also you aren’t weird if going to shows like
these aren’t your idea of a good time, it’s just a preference 💛💛
I’ve been watching Jessi’s hair channel for years and was so excited to see her on the show. I grew up Catholic but converted to the Mormon church during high school after a series of really difficult events. My family now feels like we were preyed upon and all of us have had our names removed from the church. I’m lucky to have gained a best friend who is now out of the church as well. This interview was fantastic.
Love this interview. I watched the entire show and loved it, and was also not surprised, but so surprised about how the men acted (you know which ones 👀).
Unrelated to the pod but I follow you on socials and see your journey. Look at those 💪🏼. Looking strong Hayley!!!
Made my day! Thank you!
I love Jessi so much!! she's so cute but also sooo smart and in tune with herself. Her and Demi are a force to be reckoned with!
Thanks for the interview, I really hope you ladies get a second season. Women talking about their experiences can only help other women in my opinion keep it going!!
I enjoyed this conversation so much. I really enjoyed hearing more of Jessi’s story. Thanks for the episode! ❤
Hi 👋 Never-Mo here. You have no idea the amount of times I yelled “TRUST & RESPECT” at my screen while binging the show. Seriously, the lack of empathic communication within the marriages is wild to me.
I heard about Jessi's wedding to her first husband (through a friend). We’ve been talking about her more lately because of this show. My friend said that they remembered her first husbands family doing A LOT to make the wedding super fancy and inclusive of all people (no matter their race, age, class (most people at that wedding had a lot of money), beliefs...etc). Apparently when they got married her first husband was crying as he spoke about his love for her, and when it was her turn to speak she was very cold and robotic (she did not seem in love at all for the entire wedding). And towards the end of their relationship she cheated on her first husband (and i heard it was multiple times with multiple people), she then divorced her first husband, and then re-married quickly after her divorce. She was pregnant before she got divorced to her first husband and refused (at least at the beginning) to do a paternity test. Maybe she's done one since. My friend said that when they first left the church Jessi's ex-mother in law, was LITTERALLY the FIRST person to ask them why they left and she listened to their story with a compassionate, patient, and understanding ear. She listened to them talk for hours and didn't make them feel judged once. She's never preached to them about anything. Her ex-s family were always super kind, not preachy, and very inclusive to non-Mormons and ex-Mormons from what i was told.
I’m a 53 year old fan of the show. Honestly, all the women are a bit sheltered and so sweet. I have respect for them all. Even Whitney. I feel protective of all the women too. But as a never mo, I’m more mom protective. ❤️
Here from Mormon Stories. New subscriber❤
This was a really great interview. Jessi was so insightful and astute, while being so positive and encouraging.
She’s so well spoken
Jessi is my fave! I actually found out about the show from her page! Im a hairstylist myself so i actually followed her from her salon/hair posts, then i kept hearing about the show, then she was posting about it so i ended up watching it and loving it
Jessica! I went to school with her. She was super nice and funny 🤍
I loved this episode!!
I had NO IDEA orthopraxy was a thing! It's a helpful distinction.
In the 1970s the Mormon temple ceremony was pretty creepy. In one part of the ceremony we had to simulate slitting our belly and then next slitting our throats. We had to repeat in unison "I would rather slit my belly or slit my throat, than reveal the secrets of the temple " each woman that day got the same temple name. Mine was Rita. We were never supposed to tell anybody. I don't know why. It seemed awfully bizarre. Well pretty much. Everything about the Mormon. Belief is bizarre. Glad I left a long time ago.
This really connected to me as ex SDA. So much deconstructing to be done in my early 20s and feeling like I missed out on a lot. Also the pressure and guilt is so relatable 😂
A lot of families sweep things under rhe rug especially narcissists
We need a term like secular Mormon or ethnic Mormon. It would solve the religious distinction/ cultural people group
“Culturally Mormon” would work best, similarly to “Culturally Christian”
@@hanatemonstas4485 Or "non-observant" as often used in the Jewish community. Except that sounds so passive...
@@monyabaker2190Yeah. “Culturally” would imply they grew up in the environment, tradition, practices, beliefs, philosophies, and community without necessarily believing the religion or tenant themselves.
i love jessi this is a great interview
I feel so sad that the production made Jessi seem like she didn’t give a s*** about the alcohol in the hot tub!
But anyway, I loved the show! I’m a protestant and a “never mormon” but so interested in the culture of mormonism. I’ve been watching many videos about it, specially from ex mormons. So the show gave me another perspective. It was great to see mormon wives simply as women. In some ways, if you take the temple and garments off the table, it is so relatable to other christian denominations!
Yes!!!!! Love Jessi!!!! One of my faves!!!
Jessi you come across as very cool on the Hulu show and this podcast! Brava.
She’s a queen ✨🤍
Interesting. In mainstream Protestantism, the church IS the people. Imperfect. Trying to be Christ-like. Love. Inclusive. I guess it’s now considered to be progressive Protestantism. But when I grew up in the 80s progressive Christianity was mainstream in Michigan.
I got uninvited from my own niece's baby blessing by my mother.
I only disagree with the chip and dale situation..gambling and touching another man are two different things. It's more about respect for you husband to not touch or watch another man sexually. I wouldn't want my husband to go to a strip club
I love Jessi
Love her!!!!!!
what does „we messed up“ before marriage mean? not religious girly over here
Becoming pregnant
actually in mormonland just sex before marriage is messing up
It can mean a whole range of things- usually sex before marriage. But sometimes even oral sex or other sexual exploration can preclude you from being able to attend the temple. It usually depends on the local leadership, as they are the ones who decide who is "worthy" or not.
I liked the video but it was hard because the likes were at 420 before I did 😂
Why was it not asked about how Jessie and her husband drank at The Parents house in their Hot Tub
It was!
It was lol
Can I just say that …. All these women/girls talk like “ valley girls”. 😮 so fast and so many hand to hair action going on 😂😂😂😂
sooo happy i found ur channel! as someone who lost their v at EFY when i was 13 (def lied about my age) to the 18 year old counselor….. i have a feeling i need to binge every ep