Honestly, I really don't care for the AI stuff slathered over everything. I would rather have a bigger sensor, better low-light performance and smoother lens transitioning when in video. I think generative AI and stuff like add-me is far too obvious, inauthentic and gimmicky, similar to how it is in Lightroom. It just isn't ready yet. I would have loved to see more focus given to the quality of images when pixel peeping, low-light quality, long-exposure controls etc. I hope you're going to follow this video up with a more in-depth look at camera handling and video performance.
Thanks for the feedback! As stated in the video, the camera hardware and even the promise of the updated imaging pipeline hasn't, in our opinion, changed the quality of the photos over the previous version. We will of course be doing a deep dive photography comparison between this and the next generation devices from Apple and Samsung when those are announced, which may be what you're looking for.
I was really left with the impression that not much has changed optically. With the exception of the selfie camera the cameras are largely the same. The look is vivid and punchy like we’ve seen before and frankly the AI tools are the only major reason to upgrade from the 8 Pro.
Chip isn't so good Image sensors for Telephoto are so small...1/2.5 ? It should be 1/1.5 like in oppo find x7. Then the image quality will increase. Google can't fool Photography lovers. Honest review from Petapixel 👍 🙏🇮🇳
@@bloomylicious Agreed, I just commented that before seeing this comment haha. It's a shame Google aren't providing a flatter profile or log video like Apple. MotionCam looks fantastic though as an alternative
Let us know how the video section looks, which was shot with the Pixel 9 Pro camera. The majority of footage was shot on a blah, cloudy day, so it might not be HDR's fault that it looks muted.
@@PetaPixelJust got there. It's pretty bad and gamut compressed. Maybe it's just my client or phone though. If nobody else complains, we must assume that it is me who is defective. And I absolutely did select HDR in my quality settings and I do not believe there is an override in system settings to avoid or not display HDR
Note 20 Ultra here, I have to agree, it seems like TH-cam doesn't handle HDR well. This happens in almost every video to be honest, it's kinda like it's never bright enough and kinda low contrast (?) I can't really tell. Normally HDR content is punchier than SDR but on TH-cam it looks like it's the contrary.
So I don't have a hdr screen so this is probably why, but the video looks very odd in places. Was I supposed to do something to make it look right in sdr? I'd describe it as looking like log video with more saturation, biggest thing though is it feels underexposed
Commenting to say this HDR video looks incredible on my Samsung S95B. The dynamic range and colour volume is among the best I've seen outside of HDR sample footage. Loving the fact a photography focussed channel is uploading in HDR. Please keep doing this.
I fully believe the price bump is because they launched their products officially in Nordic Europe for the first time, which is a massive market for them. But since none of the countries are exactly business friendly and have taxes high af, they bumped the price right up. Sadly this AI mess will be the first Pixel we're being introduced.
@@sabkaBaap007 agree, sadly. If the phone ran smoothly without stutter I might be interested (despite the AI stuff I have no use for), but hopefully they'll be able to fix it.
I'm still trying to understand what the point is of creating fake photos using generative AI, and even if I want to be creative, what is the logic of being on my phone and asking to create an object or anything for that matter. Just click a photo and upload it or edit it if you want. These AI features are complete gimmicks in my opinion.
These AI features, I believe are for those people who wanna create meme kinda stuff and don't know editing, maybe they are making it easy for normal people to be able to do such things without having knowledge of editing software.
Perhaps of interest: renowned iOS camera app Halide just released a new feature: Process Zero. Quote: "The Anti-Intelligent Camera - Introducing a process that uses zero AI and zero computational photography to produce beautiful, film-like natural photos." iOS only, I'm afraid.
Fair point - but this only means you are not part of their target with these features. here are plenty others, for whom these features are bundled in :)
They are gimmicky but you guys have to remember, thanks to photo editors and apps, people have always had the ability to edit and alter their photos but you would have to do the work, the whole point of this Ai stuff is to show, how the phone, this simple software can do this stuff people can do with a few tabs of a button. It’s more of a show off, how technology has come far without the need of knowing a lot of photo editing software.
My question with all these cameras is, which takes the most accurate picture? Forget the AI, and "the camera sees more red than your eyes." Which takes a picture that looks like what I'm seeing? I'm sick of looking at a sunset, looking at the camera, and thinking "that's not right." I don't mind doing any adjustments after the fact but normally, when I take a picture, I want the colors to look like what I'm seeing.
I do like the approach the panorama shots, that's one thing that I'd consider a genuine improvement. Also, good job at HDR this time. Some shots and sample photos do look more muted in SDR than they'd be otherwise, but otherwise the video looks fine in both HDR and SDR modes.
6:12 This "Add Me" shot has been captured really good 😊👍🏾. The Add Me Ai tool make y'all interaction seem original and that y'all are corresponding accurately. 7:26 The panoramic capturing assistant is created to give a highly helpful instructions to get pin point accurate result. I love this panoramic assistant capturing capability. 7:52 Combining Nightsight and the Panoramic tool is useful and the end result is beautiful.
Guys if the video looks dark to you it is correct and you just need to max out the brightness. If it looks washed out it is because HLG is broken on your device. Disabling HW overlays in developer options SOLVES this problem.
Thanks for calling out that this vid was in HDR! Had to switch from Brave to Chrome for HDR modes to appear in settings Were you shooting in 50mp or 12mp mode with main camera?
All these AI gimmicks don't really entice me. All I want is nice, sharp, natural looking photos and videos, good stabilisation, smooth transitions between lenses (when zooming in video mode) and without crazy colours or over sharpening and with a natural looking portrait mode. I wish they would focus their AI technology on those things and not gimmicky generative stuff like adding a bi-plane or silly looking sky.
Not a fan of how HDR is handled on my Pixel 8 Pro in that while watching with my phone vertically, it gets ridiculously bright where the video is playing which then causes the comment section to appear muted, dull, and dark which makes it difficult to look at. I also hate this on Instagram where I'll be viewing some SDR posts and then I scroll a little more and an HDR image forces my phone to max brightness and now I'm blind. I think HDR is awesome when I'm sat down in front of a good capable TV and fully immersed in the content, but for casual things like youtube and social media, the way your phone brightness shoots up and down as it goes from SDR to HDR is really more annoying than it's worth.
I though the rumors as well as Google's own blog suggested the telephoto and ultrawide sensor is new? In my own test of the phone I saw the main lens being pretty similar on the Pixel 8 Pro and Pixel 9 Pro, but the telephoto was MUCH better in my experience.
No review of any 9 Pro improvements to the terrible shutter lag on the 8 Pro camera's 50mp pro file mode. Is the lag shorter or completely gone due to better hardware / software solutions?
I still found a slight delay when taking the photo. And certainly there is a waiting period after taking the shot where the image is processing before you can view your image as its final result.
Great video + realistic points and critiques cutting through the hype. Pixel's are starting to look even more overly processed over time, would love to see a toggle for a more neutral look. Or them having a log capture mode like Apple, or even just a flatter profile like what GoPros used to offer. I think you've mentioned MotionCam Pro in the past (In the S24 Ultra review), would love to see that revisited perhaps as a standalone video or as a small segment in reviews (though I suspect MotionCam has to be updated for each new major phone release?). The idea of getting clean raw/log out and having the range to be able to mix a shot or two with shots from a mirrorless camera is appealing for run and gun style stuff.
Would love to see a comparison between the pixel and iphone. Loved seeing both your separate reviews. Would love it to get your feedback on the pixel 9 pro vs iphone 16 pro. specifically for the camera.
I liked the HDR video. Only white text on black (or very dark) backgrounds looked wrong. Once or twice there was one distracting glint in a shot that otherwise didn't seem to use the HDR at all. (Edit: I watched on my iPad Pro M4 with the TH-cam app, so probably the best possible setup for this video.)
Vid shot on GH7.. Very nice quality.. How does it compare to Sony ZV-E1? I understand you lose AF when you schoot slomo video.. Could that be fixed in a firmware update? Thanks for the vid.. Regards
will I see a drastic change in photo quality (rather than videos) from my pixel 6 pro to pixel 9 pro xl? As I'm thinking of buying the pixel 9 pro xl over the Samsung S24 ultra (due to samsung's bloatware). Thanks!
How good is the selfie camera? I make videos using the phone screen as a teleprompter and it’s annoying that the best cameras are on the wrong side of the phone. (Using an iPhone 14 Pro today so that is the comparison.)
We were in Jasper, Alberta last month, 4 days before the entire city had to be evacuated. Like "The Last Days of Pompeii". 30% of the entire town was destroyed by wildfire, including a sporting goods store we visited that day, and a family restaurant we parked at. Absolutely surreal. Climate change is here to stay.
My Samsung s23 is awful at sports action shots. Mostly blurry. Is the 9 pro the best 2024 phone for youth sports, or do you think the S Ultra or iphone are better?
So you still need to hold the phone still for a few seconds when taking higher resolution photos? Also, the new interface for Panoramas, I don't think it's new? I might be misremembering but I think my Nexus 6P took them exactly like that.
Jordan, bravo, hdr video on samsung phone looks great and sdr on desktop looks great as usual !! Would be interesting to see your process for producing hdr video!
I would really like to see 2x/50mm equivalent come back as an option, with a sensor size and aperture the same as the main camera. 3x (let alone 5x) is usually too tight for indoors, and size constraints means sensors are small and lenses are dark. I would like an indoor zoom. .5x, 1x, 2x, 5x, 10x would be my ideal. If the zoom lens and sensor are only good in bright lighting, then I'm outside, and if I'm outside, things are probably very far away.
Nice, thanks for the HDR, looks noticeably better (iPhone 12 mini and LG TV), watching it on a non HDR display doesn't look duller than a regular SDR video.
This was a pretty nice review but how come reviewing the macro use of the ultrawide lens was skipped? That was a pretty common complaint with the 8 pro and I keep seeing it be skipped in reviews for some reason. I've seen complaints like you can't even take a picture of a bee on a flower with the ultrawide on the 8 pro. Did that ever get fixed?
Glad I watched this review. My 14PM doesn't take the best photos, and lacks good zoom, but video is still superb and so stabilized. I think I will wait till the year ends and see what the other brands comes up with.
I can't see why anyone would use the AI features for something that isn't just a joke or meme. People take out their phones when there's a pretty sunset so they can take a photo of it. They don't see an overcast day and think "Wow this would look so great if I could change the sky and lie to myself and the internet about what I experienced."
🔴 Is there an option to click Portrait photos using the telephoto lens? Please comment. iPhone Pro series has this option for a long time, to shoot Portrait using 3x and 5x Lens. And they look soo good. Having the ability to shoot Portraits using a longer focal length lens provides great portraits with more natural bokeh.
You cannot use portrait mode and the 5X zoom together however you can use portrait Blur afterwards on a picture taken with the 5X zoom and it works well.
Maybe my memory is failing me, but I'm almost positive my Galaxy S5 from almost 10 years ago did the Panorama thing with the dots in AR. I have a 9 Pro on order and am excited for delivery, it's just funny how they push things as revolutionary that are really recycled.
Love you guys, love the videos you make, really like stylized content. Cinematic is awesome....HDR... meh. Sorry. Still love the video, though! Keep it up and have fun :)
Love the video section. His face is more orange than our favorite orange guy. That's due to super aggressive tone mapping in triple frame stacking, not sure why phone manufacturers are doing that at the first place. I think Apple started doing it first (120fps stacked to 30fps), then Samsung followed and then the rest just joined the stupid video frame stacking party. Who cares if you get blown out skies when the tradeoff is an orange face and poster like blue sky?
I actually preferred the video in SDR on my PC, on my LG G3 the image was often too saturated and the fuzziness of the background was visually enhanced by HDR (for example during the Jordan section). Overall, I didn't like the picture quality at all on this video, it looked artificial, overly processed, looked like it had too much sharpening (could probably be softened in post) etc. Anyone agrees with me?
I was hoping this phone wijs bw graer for HDR and 4K60 HDR modes.... But it seems lacking for video. What phone would you recommend if the video aspect is the most important factor? Mostly for holiday videos but I do like something extra. Now I use an iPhone 11 Pro but looking to upgrade.
Something I don't see much focus on (pun intended) is phones with macro ability. I see so many people trying to take photos of insects, flowers, rocks, lichens and moss etc. I'm an amateur lichenologist and struggle to get close in enough while holding a hand lens in front of my phone. I would LOVE a phone to have a really good macro lens that's almost like a microscope! Pretty sure I'm not the only one. Could you guys do a deep dive on that and see what's available? Seems so silly that we have phones with 3, 4 and 5 lenses and ALL of the lenses do long range, while none do super close. Do an episode on Macro Phone photography, I think it could be interesting.
Generative AI can deliver good results and sometimes it is going to miss. I experience the same with every AI generator. Adobe firefly, Photoshop which uses firefly, Gemini. It's just the nature of it. It's not perfect but when it works it helps enhance our work as photographers.
Hello Jordan, just a suggestion for HDR videos. Please upload in SDR and add a link to an unlisted video in HDR for people who have displays that are HDR capable and have decent HDR software implementation.
Google AI should be using SynthID for watermarking, it's embedded in the actual image. Though I hope that they add an easily digestible tag in the EXIF data as well, and would be disappointed if they didn't. They plan on open sourcing SynthID later this year.
I'd love to see you guys review some of the beasts from the east with true hardware improvements like the variable aperture on the Xiaomi 14 Ultra or the 200mp telephoto on the Vivo x100 Ultra. Rocking a Pixel 6 Pro now but my next phone will not be from the States and not on a major carrier.
Watched this on my ipad pro 12.9, video look amazing, all i can see in the comment section is people with androids complaining it doesnt work for them lol.
If they really rewrote the whole photo pipeline, I would expect actual hardware changes in Pixel 10. Having 9 work the same as Pixel 8 sounds like a prep job well done.
No 25fps PAL settings, I've always bought pixel phones, but after seeing my friends iPhone video clips at a recent wedding, I don't see the point anymore. These gimmicks on the Pixel 9 just don't interest me.
Hey Petapixel, could you please ask Google why the Pixel 9 Pro XL always uses analog pixel binning at 10x-30x in contrast to Pixel 7 Pro/8 Pro? At 10x, this results in only 2.4 megapixel dng files that have far less detail than the 11.4 megapixel dng files of the 7 Pro. Nobody is talking about that. Pixel 7 Pro/8 Pro only use analog pixel binning in low light conditions, but Pixel 9 Pro XL uses it even in perfect light conditions. 2.4 megapixel at 10x has nothing to do with lossless image quality, which Google advertises at 10x.
I have a 4 year old Samsung on its way out. I use it most to transfer pics from my camera to phone. I have a 1T microsd card in it. So ideally want a phone which has the same are they all internal memory now and will I be stitched up on cost for this. This week on a shoot I’ve taken 10k images so this is a major factor for me
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16:20 Bro, Chris’s son looks like he came straight out of a Disney film. Dashing gentleman right there.
Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. He has that IT factor for photos.
He is mewing lol
The majority of the amazing new "Panorama Mode" is just the OLD (but fun) Google Photosphere interface.
Honestly, I really don't care for the AI stuff slathered over everything. I would rather have a bigger sensor, better low-light performance and smoother lens transitioning when in video. I think generative AI and stuff like add-me is far too obvious, inauthentic and gimmicky, similar to how it is in Lightroom. It just isn't ready yet. I would have loved to see more focus given to the quality of images when pixel peeping, low-light quality, long-exposure controls etc. I hope you're going to follow this video up with a more in-depth look at camera handling and video performance.
Thanks for the feedback! As stated in the video, the camera hardware and even the promise of the updated imaging pipeline hasn't, in our opinion, changed the quality of the photos over the previous version.
We will of course be doing a deep dive photography comparison between this and the next generation devices from Apple and Samsung when those are announced, which may be what you're looking for.
I was really left with the impression that not much has changed optically. With the exception of the selfie camera the cameras are largely the same. The look is vivid and punchy like we’ve seen before and frankly the AI tools are the only major reason to upgrade from the 8 Pro.
AI is their new trick to selling us the same phones and they are running out of ideas
Chip isn't so good
Image sensors for Telephoto are so small...1/2.5 ?
It should be 1/1.5 like in oppo find x7. Then the image quality will increase.
Google can't fool Photography lovers.
Honest review from Petapixel 👍
🙏🇮🇳
I think you just described the forthcoming Samsung S25 Ultra.
Good review, however at the 1:47 mark you made an error stating the two display sizes being 6.8" and 8". I think you meant to say 6.3" and 6.8".
Yes thank you. Sorry about that one
I thought that it is huge phone.
It's 6.8" to 8" for Pixel 9 Pro XL to Pixel 9 Fold.
For those serious about video, definitely use Motioncam for DirectLOG and even RAW video capture. Takes it a step over the iPhone even
Also will make it look a lot more natural and less smartphone looking, same can be done with the photos as well
I'd love to see what these two could create using that app and something like the 9 Pro
Won't happen, they totally ignore this app, I've seen multiple people ask. I'm just posting this for other people@@bloomylicious
I doubt this has better video than the iPhone running any app. Id love to see that....
@@bloomylicious Agreed, I just commented that before seeing this comment haha. It's a shame Google aren't providing a flatter profile or log video like Apple. MotionCam looks fantastic though as an alternative
Ah HDR. My S23 Ultra will not play along even though it is capable. All muted and dull. Thanks TH-cam backend
Let us know how the video section looks, which was shot with the Pixel 9 Pro camera. The majority of footage was shot on a blah, cloudy day, so it might not be HDR's fault that it looks muted.
@@PetaPixelJust got there. It's pretty bad and gamut compressed. Maybe it's just my client or phone though. If nobody else complains, we must assume that it is me who is defective. And I absolutely did select HDR in my quality settings and I do not believe there is an override in system settings to avoid or not display HDR
Note 20 Ultra here, I have to agree, it seems like TH-cam doesn't handle HDR well. This happens in almost every video to be honest, it's kinda like it's never bright enough and kinda low contrast (?) I can't really tell. Normally HDR content is punchier than SDR but on TH-cam it looks like it's the contrary.
iPad Air 4, I'd rather not have HDR...
pixel 6, can't select non HDR version regardless of the resolution
So I don't have a hdr screen so this is probably why, but the video looks very odd in places. Was I supposed to do something to make it look right in sdr? I'd describe it as looking like log video with more saturation, biggest thing though is it feels underexposed
Commenting to say this HDR video looks incredible on my Samsung S95B. The dynamic range and colour volume is among the best I've seen outside of HDR sample footage.
Loving the fact a photography focussed channel is uploading in HDR. Please keep doing this.
Chris's son is handsone af tho 😂
Fr. Go figure the son of a photography reviewer would be rediculously photogenic.
I like to think so too. Thanks!
Sorry to correct you, but Jordan is his business partner/ cinematographer, not son. Easy mistake to make though.
When Nichols Jr. starts his own YT, IG, TT channel... look out world!
😂😂😂 💀@@pacheaco727
There's still no ai features that are reason enough to buy a phone or justify price hikes. Period.
Good video
I fully believe the price bump is because they launched their products officially in Nordic Europe for the first time, which is a massive market for them. But since none of the countries are exactly business friendly and have taxes high af, they bumped the price right up. Sadly this AI mess will be the first Pixel we're being introduced.
Unfortunately this device looks really good but still not enough reasons to buy it.
@@sabkaBaap007 agree, sadly. If the phone ran smoothly without stutter I might be interested (despite the AI stuff I have no use for), but hopefully they'll be able to fix it.
This looks absolutely INCREDIBLE watching in HDR on the M4 iPad Pro. THANK YOU for producing HDR content!!! This is how it SHOULD be!
I'm still trying to understand what the point is of creating fake photos using generative AI, and even if I want to be creative, what is the logic of being on my phone and asking to create an object or anything for that matter. Just click a photo and upload it or edit it if you want. These AI features are complete gimmicks in my opinion.
These AI features, I believe are for those people who wanna create meme kinda stuff and don't know editing, maybe they are making it easy for normal people to be able to do such things without having knowledge of editing software.
Perhaps of interest: renowned iOS camera app Halide just released a new feature: Process Zero. Quote: "The Anti-Intelligent Camera - Introducing a process that uses zero AI and zero computational photography to produce beautiful, film-like natural photos." iOS only, I'm afraid.
Good if taking pics to sell stuff. Less time setting up the scene / tidying etc
Fair point - but this only means you are not part of their target with these features. here are plenty others, for whom these features are bundled in :)
They are gimmicky but you guys have to remember, thanks to photo editors and apps, people have always had the ability to edit and alter their photos but you would have to do the work, the whole point of this Ai stuff is to show, how the phone, this simple software can do this stuff people can do with a few tabs of a button. It’s more of a show off, how technology has come far without the need of knowing a lot of photo editing software.
My question with all these cameras is, which takes the most accurate picture? Forget the AI, and "the camera sees more red than your eyes." Which takes a picture that looks like what I'm seeing? I'm sick of looking at a sunset, looking at the camera, and thinking "that's not right." I don't mind doing any adjustments after the fact but normally, when I take a picture, I want the colors to look like what I'm seeing.
100% Like my Samsung S22+ does. The pictures are natural and gorgeous, and it works very well in a low light situation.
This exactly. I want my photos to look more realistic, not more fake lol. The last thing I would like to do is add some fake balloons to my photo.
@@joeprager9961lol if you think samsung s22 has good color science you are blind or delusional
Yes!!! This, and bokeh!
the new panorama interface is quite similar to the old, sadly deleted photosphere
Really great review and good sense of humour, I had a great time watching this review, thank you!
I see a lot of people complaining about HDR but it looks good on my 65 inch oled and on my old trusty Huawei mate 20 pro. Thanks guys
I do like the approach the panorama shots, that's one thing that I'd consider a genuine improvement.
Also, good job at HDR this time. Some shots and sample photos do look more muted in SDR than they'd be otherwise, but otherwise the video looks fine in both HDR and SDR modes.
Great Video! Can the Pixel 9 Pro's do dual camera video? Shoot with both the front and rear cameras simultaneously?
6:12 This "Add Me" shot has been captured really good 😊👍🏾. The Add Me Ai tool make y'all interaction seem original and that y'all are corresponding accurately. 7:26 The panoramic capturing assistant is created to give a highly helpful instructions to get pin point accurate result. I love this panoramic assistant capturing capability. 7:52 Combining Nightsight and the Panoramic tool is useful and the end result is beautiful.
Guys if the video looks dark to you it is correct and you just need to max out the brightness.
If it looks washed out it is because HLG is broken on your device. Disabling HW overlays in developer options SOLVES this problem.
Thanks for calling out that this vid was in HDR! Had to switch from Brave to Chrome for HDR modes to appear in settings
Were you shooting in 50mp or 12mp mode with main camera?
Whoa! The change at 10:25 where the video switches from the GH7 to the Pixel 9 was brutal! So much harsher and crunchier!
All these AI gimmicks don't really entice me. All I want is nice, sharp, natural looking photos and videos, good stabilisation, smooth transitions between lenses (when zooming in video mode) and without crazy colours or over sharpening and with a natural looking portrait mode. I wish they would focus their AI technology on those things and not gimmicky generative stuff like adding a bi-plane or silly looking sky.
HDR looks good on Samsung mini-led and iphone 14 pro. excellent work, Jordan!
Not a fan of how HDR is handled on my Pixel 8 Pro in that while watching with my phone vertically, it gets ridiculously bright where the video is playing which then causes the comment section to appear muted, dull, and dark which makes it difficult to look at. I also hate this on Instagram where I'll be viewing some SDR posts and then I scroll a little more and an HDR image forces my phone to max brightness and now I'm blind. I think HDR is awesome when I'm sat down in front of a good capable TV and fully immersed in the content, but for casual things like youtube and social media, the way your phone brightness shoots up and down as it goes from SDR to HDR is really more annoying than it's worth.
Excellent use of HDR, looks awesome! Would love more details and workflow examples. :)
I though the rumors as well as Google's own blog suggested the telephoto and ultrawide sensor is new? In my own test of the phone I saw the main lens being pretty similar on the Pixel 8 Pro and Pixel 9 Pro, but the telephoto was MUCH better in my experience.
No review of any 9 Pro improvements to the terrible shutter lag on the 8 Pro camera's 50mp pro file mode. Is the lag shorter or completely gone due to better hardware / software solutions?
I think, this is not a shutter lag, but the time to process the image. I have not seen a single comment yet that it has been improved.
I still found a slight delay when taking the photo. And certainly there is a waiting period after taking the shot where the image is processing before you can view your image as its final result.
Great video + realistic points and critiques cutting through the hype.
Pixel's are starting to look even more overly processed over time, would love to see a toggle for a more neutral look. Or them having a log capture mode like Apple, or even just a flatter profile like what GoPros used to offer.
I think you've mentioned MotionCam Pro in the past (In the S24 Ultra review), would love to see that revisited perhaps as a standalone video or as a small segment in reviews (though I suspect MotionCam has to be updated for each new major phone release?). The idea of getting clean raw/log out and having the range to be able to mix a shot or two with shots from a mirrorless camera is appealing for run and gun style stuff.
HDR is greet, thank you Jordan and Chris.
Would love to see a comparison between the pixel and iphone. Loved seeing both your separate reviews. Would love it to get your feedback on the pixel 9 pro vs iphone 16 pro. specifically for the camera.
HDR looks great and kudos to Jordan for using it tastefully rather than nuking my eyeballs with nits.
thanks for showing the panorama view through the view of the camera as if shooting it... very nice!
I liked the HDR video. Only white text on black (or very dark) backgrounds looked wrong. Once or twice there was one distracting glint in a shot that otherwise didn't seem to use the HDR at all. (Edit: I watched on my iPad Pro M4 with the TH-cam app, so probably the best possible setup for this video.)
HDR working well on my LG OLED TV
Aye, it working well, but it looks really bad overall.
Vid shot on GH7.. Very nice quality.. How does it compare to Sony ZV-E1? I understand you lose AF when you schoot slomo video.. Could that be fixed in a firmware update? Thanks for the vid.. Regards
will I see a drastic change in photo quality (rather than videos) from my pixel 6 pro to pixel 9 pro xl? As I'm thinking of buying the pixel 9 pro xl over the Samsung S24 ultra (due to samsung's bloatware). Thanks!
How good is the selfie camera? I make videos using the phone screen as a teleprompter and it’s annoying that the best cameras are on the wrong side of the phone.
(Using an iPhone 14 Pro today so that is the comparison.)
I was in Cornwall in the south west of the UK last weekend and it was hazy because of smoke from Canadian forest fires. Crazy
We were in Jasper, Alberta last month, 4 days before the entire city had to be evacuated. Like "The Last Days of Pompeii".
30% of the entire town was destroyed by wildfire, including a sporting goods store we visited that day, and a family restaurant we parked at. Absolutely surreal.
Climate change is here to stay.
My Samsung s23 is awful at sports action shots. Mostly blurry. Is the 9 pro the best 2024 phone for youth sports, or do you think the S Ultra or iphone are better?
Night Sight video came in clutch at Disney world's indoor rides.
Good job on deep diving video performance!
Apart from learning I guess Chromecast with Google TV doesn't support HDR on TH-cam?!?! Fired the video up on my Pixel 8 Pro and it looks fantastic!
So you still need to hold the phone still for a few seconds when taking higher resolution photos?
Also, the new interface for Panoramas, I don't think it's new? I might be misremembering but I think my Nexus 6P took them exactly like that.
Jordan, bravo, hdr video on samsung phone looks great and sdr on desktop looks great as usual !! Would be interesting to see your process for producing hdr video!
I would really like to see 2x/50mm equivalent come back as an option, with a sensor size and aperture the same as the main camera. 3x (let alone 5x) is usually too tight for indoors, and size constraints means sensors are small and lenses are dark. I would like an indoor zoom.
.5x, 1x, 2x, 5x, 10x would be my ideal. If the zoom lens and sensor are only good in bright lighting, then I'm outside, and if I'm outside, things are probably very far away.
Nice, thanks for the HDR, looks noticeably better (iPhone 12 mini and LG TV), watching it on a non HDR display doesn't look duller than a regular SDR video.
This was a pretty nice review but how come reviewing the macro use of the ultrawide lens was skipped? That was a pretty common complaint with the 8 pro and I keep seeing it be skipped in reviews for some reason. I've seen complaints like you can't even take a picture of a bee on a flower with the ultrawide on the 8 pro. Did that ever get fixed?
Great video, just a question: is panomarama night sight an on-device mode? Thank you very much.
Yes, it is
Glad I watched this review. My 14PM doesn't take the best photos, and lacks good zoom, but video is still superb and so stabilized.
I think I will wait till the year ends and see what the other brands comes up with.
This is bizarre, jut got my Pixel 9 Pro XL and
am unboxing it with you.
Is there a heating problem?
I think the best thing is putting the 5x lens in a smaller package!
The video part looks really bad on my LG G2. The colours and the oversharpening is just not natural…
I can't see why anyone would use the AI features for something that isn't just a joke or meme. People take out their phones when there's a pretty sunset so they can take a photo of it. They don't see an overcast day and think "Wow this would look so great if I could change the sky and lie to myself and the internet about what I experienced."
Is there any software lock in camera functions between the 9 pro and the 9 pro xl?
🔴 Is there an option to click Portrait photos using the telephoto lens? Please comment. iPhone Pro series has this option for a long time, to shoot Portrait using 3x and 5x Lens. And they look soo good. Having the ability to shoot Portraits using a longer focal length lens provides great portraits with more natural bokeh.
You cannot use portrait mode and the 5X zoom together however you can use portrait Blur afterwards on a picture taken with the 5X zoom and it works well.
@@niccollsvideo That makes sense
Maybe my memory is failing me, but I'm almost positive my Galaxy S5 from almost 10 years ago did the Panorama thing with the dots in AR. I have a 9 Pro on order and am excited for delivery, it's just funny how they push things as revolutionary that are really recycled.
I would love to see the vieography finally improved with the pixel 10.
Watching this great HDR content on my 12,9 iPad Pro with miniled. Terrific job! 🎉
Love you guys, love the videos you make, really like stylized content. Cinematic is awesome....HDR... meh. Sorry. Still love the video, though! Keep it up and have fun :)
Love the video section. His face is more orange than our favorite orange guy. That's due to super aggressive tone mapping in triple frame stacking, not sure why phone manufacturers are doing that at the first place. I think Apple started doing it first (120fps stacked to 30fps), then Samsung followed and then the rest just joined the stupid video frame stacking party. Who cares if you get blown out skies when the tradeoff is an orange face and poster like blue sky?
I have the s22 ultra what do you change to this pixel or buy the pixel fold or s24 ultra
I actually preferred the video in SDR on my PC, on my LG G3 the image was often too saturated and the fuzziness of the background was visually enhanced by HDR (for example during the Jordan section). Overall, I didn't like the picture quality at all on this video, it looked artificial, overly processed, looked like it had too much sharpening (could probably be softened in post) etc.
Anyone agrees with me?
Is your lg g3 on filmmaker mode? It looks fine to me on C3. I do agree about over sharpening in parts
@@GAGPalia yes it is.
I was hoping this phone wijs bw graer for HDR and 4K60 HDR modes.... But it seems lacking for video.
What phone would you recommend if the video aspect is the most important factor? Mostly for holiday videos but I do like something extra. Now I use an iPhone 11 Pro but looking to upgrade.
Something I don't see much focus on (pun intended) is phones with macro ability. I see so many people trying to take photos of insects, flowers, rocks, lichens and moss etc. I'm an amateur lichenologist and struggle to get close in enough while holding a hand lens in front of my phone. I would LOVE a phone to have a really good macro lens that's almost like a microscope! Pretty sure I'm not the only one. Could you guys do a deep dive on that and see what's available? Seems so silly that we have phones with 3, 4 and 5 lenses and ALL of the lenses do long range, while none do super close. Do an episode on Macro Phone photography, I think it could be interesting.
Generative AI can deliver good results and sometimes it is going to miss. I experience the same with every AI generator. Adobe firefly, Photoshop which uses firefly, Gemini. It's just the nature of it. It's not perfect but when it works it helps enhance our work as photographers.
Getting it on Friday. Need it now.
my video is underexposed and flat cause of this hdr experiment...
Thank you for keeping journalism alive
Thanks guys.
Is this phone good for macro photography
Hello Jordan, just a suggestion for HDR videos. Please upload in SDR and add a link to an unlisted video in HDR for people who have displays that are HDR capable and have decent HDR software implementation.
Thanks for the disclaimer about HDR. It helped
Why don't you just give us info about lens quality (corner sharpness etc) and RAW files performance etc? That's what I expect from this channel.
Could you please compare the Pixel 9 Pro XL to the Xiaomi 14 Ultra? The main 1" sensor on the Xiaomi? 😁
Never gonna own a Google Pixel, but my fav part of this video was Jaron shooting analogue at the AI-based phone launch ❤👏
I think you nailed the HDR here. It's not just maximum brightness in every shot.
edit: up until the Pixel HDR, oof
7:32 I love the Pepsi convoy
Google AI should be using SynthID for watermarking, it's embedded in the actual image. Though I hope that they add an easily digestible tag in the EXIF data as well, and would be disappointed if they didn't. They plan on open sourcing SynthID later this year.
That dot in panorama was in the old nexus UI, also it had a 3x3 panorama that was amazing and wish it came back.
How much better is the telephoto autofocus? That was my biggest disappointment with the 8 Pro
I noticed it to be quite improved. Focus was fast and accurate with the 5X lens now. The dual pixel af makes a difference.
Do this have manual camera options?
Panorama mode is a game changer: handheld tripod-like pano!
Just Subscribed With Notifications On ! Great Video ! Will Definitely Be watching again ! ') 😅🙂
Have the raws noise reduction baked in?
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Bro .. can it use flash light while doing macro video?? not in photo
I'd love to see you guys review some of the beasts from the east with true hardware improvements like the variable aperture on the Xiaomi 14 Ultra or the 200mp telephoto on the Vivo x100 Ultra. Rocking a Pixel 6 Pro now but my next phone will not be from the States and not on a major carrier.
Watched this on my ipad pro 12.9, video look amazing, all i can see in the comment section is people with androids complaining it doesnt work for them lol.
If they really rewrote the whole photo pipeline, I would expect actual hardware changes in Pixel 10. Having 9 work the same as Pixel 8 sounds like a prep job well done.
You forgot to mention 4K 60 HDR is only available with video boost. Giving you frame interpolation which just looks bad.
No 25fps PAL settings, I've always bought pixel phones, but after seeing my friends iPhone video clips at a recent wedding, I don't see the point anymore. These gimmicks on the Pixel 9 just don't interest me.
Is 5x telephoto lens available for portrait photos?
Want monochrome mode - NEED monochrome mode!
Does it have a macro lens?
Hey Petapixel, could you please ask Google why the Pixel 9 Pro XL always uses analog pixel binning at 10x-30x in contrast to Pixel 7 Pro/8 Pro? At 10x, this results in only 2.4 megapixel dng files that have far less detail than the 11.4 megapixel dng files of the 7 Pro. Nobody is talking about that. Pixel 7 Pro/8 Pro only use analog pixel binning in low light conditions, but Pixel 9 Pro XL uses it even in perfect light conditions. 2.4 megapixel at 10x has nothing to do with lossless image quality, which Google advertises at 10x.
I have a 4 year old Samsung on its way out. I use it most to transfer pics from my camera to phone. I have a 1T microsd card in it. So ideally want a phone which has the same are they all internal memory now and will I be stitched up on cost for this. This week on a shoot I’ve taken 10k images so this is a major factor for me
i love the pano keeping the same truck in twice
12:43 Bro you forget to showcase the SuperRes Video at 20x and 30x using VideoBoost