Please be advised, all your plans for door-widening, balconies etc, will face huge bureaucratic problems. But you will only find this out when it is too late. The you will have a fine harvest of eye-watering fines. It’s quite the racket! Try to work within the limitations/potential of the structure as it is, - which is already beautiful.
I listened to your narration and had the same reaction. I suspect what your geometra is telling you. My context is completely based on watching other videos where people have renovated stacked stone structures like yours. One gentleman in particular faced restrictions that kept him from changing the size of any openings in the walls. He is also located in the area west of Turin. When you referenced removing the interior wall I cringed. That wall appears to be structural and supports the roof. I wish you all the best in your renovations. If you have a very healthy budget then it may be the most important means of realizing your ambitions.
We appreciate you watching and paying close attention! Many have commented on the restrictions to alter existing doors and windows. Every project is different. Zoning, use, extent and type of work. We can't speak for others, but our plans have been submitted to the proper authorities and preliminary feedback has been positive. As for the removal of the interior wall, the plan is to replace it with a column and beam to pickup the load. This, too, is in our permit application. We have a modest budget but are optimistic that we can make good choices to make this dream a reality! Thanks for sharing this journey with us.
Cabin?..that's pretty big. I'd call it a house. Those tiny ones Martijn Doolaard have are more like cabins. Also, I heard you talking about making doors bigger and conbining windows. I thought I heard Martijn say you weren't allowed to change any external doorways or windows?
We’re working with a local Geometra to permit all of the work. All of the work will be carried out by licensed trades. I’m hardly an expert on codes and permissibility in this part of the world. But there are plenty nuances such as what you’re allowed to do yourself versus by the trades. Martijn seems to prioritize doing the work himself.
In Italia ci sono regole severe, tutto ciò che viene modificato deve essere fatto con un professionista e chiedendo permessi al Comune di residenza, bisogna anche vedere se questa casa ha vincoli storici, se li ha non è possibile fare modifiche esterne ma solo interne. Per avere l'abitabilità poi i soffitti devono avere una certa altezza e solitamente i primi piani di queste abitazioni rurali erano stalle con soffitti molto bassi e non abitabili.
The 'grotta' was used as a wine cellar. The temperature and humidity are constant throughout the year. It is also excellent for storing cheese and cold cuts.
What an adventure you have embarked upon. I look forward to watching your progress. My son has purchased an old farmhouse east of Torino. So we are invested in the future of this beautiful country also. Best of luck on your construction adventure.
You need to watch Raising Voyagers. They are in the same area and have been doing renovations on their stone cabin and it’s been daunting to say the least
Wow good luck beautiful adventure. You say its small i'm renovating a cabin in france its 25m2 so yours is massive in comparison. Have fun and enjoy the process 👍
Thank-you! Size is all relative, right? At approx. 85m2, maybe we're more of a tiny house? The process is certainly part of our adventure. Love your renovation! Well done!
I follow Raising Voyagers, and always drool over their house and views. Now I’ve found another intrepid couple who are brave enough to build in the Italian mountains. So beautiful!! Can’t wait to see it all happen.
Thanks so much for the kind words! You have to be just a little foolish to take this on. We've done our due diligence and are optimistic that we can add some value and a little bit of us to this lovely property for future generations. Glad to have you onboard to share our journey! Hope to have updates in the near future!
@margaretrosin7853 Same feeling, I do follow Raising Voyagers and Martijn Doolaard. Both of them have amazing views of the Mountain and the valley. Just beautiful.
No. 390, watching from Queensland Australia, good luck, hard work but to live in Italian mountains and experience the seasonal changes, I imagine this to be just about perfect.
Hello dear people, I bought a ruin in France 26 years ago, less isolated and less high, and I'm still working on it. Are you sure about the age of your house? I ask because in the southwest region in France, if you find a stone (with a year-mark sculpted in it) into a wall or on top of an entrance, it doesn't always indicates the age of that house... sometimes the builders took stones from older (ruined) ones. Oh, and yours is a house, not a cabin... Wenn you talk about your plans to open up for windows and break out the inner wall I got sceptical, especially because of the inner wall: you'll risk to weaken the stability of the house; arcs instead are an alternative. Good luck!
Don’t underestimate the humidity coming down(and up) from the Hill and streetside. Enjoy the adventure and get to know the local regulations (talk with the “tecnico del Comune”)
that bench could be a Prie-Dieu for kneeling in the grotta to pray, you find them in many churches in france but more stylish but this one is rustic, home made, I might be wrong, but look it up.
Not many people talk about having a car in Italy. With 27 switchbacks, you'll definitely need a car. Can you share how you are getting around now and what will happen in the future? You'll need to pass that Italian driver's test (in Italian), what is your plan?
@@ACabininItalythanks for the reply and it's probably better using car rentals for as long as you can! I'm subscribed now and looking forward to seeing how your wonderful project progresses!! In boca al Lupo!🐺
We do not have a price yet for the work. But our budget is modest and we hope to make good decisions to make the most of it. Hopefully, the work can be finished in a year or two!
Please be advised, all your plans for door-widening, balconies etc, will face huge bureaucratic problems. But you will only find this out when it is too late. The you will have a fine harvest of eye-watering fines. It’s quite the racket! Try to work within the limitations/potential of the structure as it is, - which is already beautiful.
Thank-you for the heads up. Rest assured that we are working with a local Geometra to obtain proper permits required for the work.
@@ACabininItaly The geometra is not giving out the permits...
@@martinuso7446 , of course. But they provide the documents to submit to the commune for approval.
I listened to your narration and had the same reaction. I suspect what your geometra is telling you. My context is completely based on watching other videos where people have renovated stacked stone structures like yours.
One gentleman in particular faced restrictions that kept him from changing the size of any openings in the walls. He is also located in the area west of Turin.
When you referenced removing the interior wall I cringed. That wall appears to be structural and supports the roof.
I wish you all the best in your renovations. If you have a very healthy budget then it may be the most important means of realizing your ambitions.
We appreciate you watching and paying close attention! Many have commented on the restrictions to alter existing doors and windows. Every project is different. Zoning, use, extent and type of work. We can't speak for others, but our plans have been submitted to the proper authorities and preliminary feedback has been positive. As for the removal of the interior wall, the plan is to replace it with a column and beam to pickup the load. This, too, is in our permit application. We have a modest budget but are optimistic that we can make good choices to make this dream a reality! Thanks for sharing this journey with us.
Cabin?..that's pretty big. I'd call it a house. Those tiny ones Martijn Doolaard have are more like cabins. Also, I heard you talking about making doors bigger and conbining windows. I thought I heard Martijn say you weren't allowed to change any external doorways or windows?
We’re working with a local Geometra to permit all of the work. All of the work will be carried out by licensed trades. I’m hardly an expert on codes and permissibility in this part of the world. But there are plenty nuances such as what you’re allowed to do yourself versus by the trades. Martijn seems to prioritize doing the work himself.
In Italia ci sono regole severe, tutto ciò che viene modificato deve essere fatto con un professionista e chiedendo permessi al Comune di residenza, bisogna anche vedere se questa casa ha vincoli storici, se li ha non è possibile fare modifiche esterne ma solo interne. Per avere l'abitabilità poi i soffitti devono avere una certa altezza e solitamente i primi piani di queste abitazioni rurali erano stalle con soffitti molto bassi e non abitabili.
It seems to be not far from Martijn.
@@ACabininItalyusually you are not permitted to modify the external shape, but a local geometra for sure will drive you for the best
@patpav4985 Can you not dig the floors down for ceiling height?
North Carolina, USA is watching your progress.. I do Historic Restoration here. Can't wait to see how this comes all together
Thanks for watching and sharing in our journey!
Watching from Nova Scotia Canada! Subscribed of course and looking forward to your adventures! Thanks for posting.
Welcome 🙏
Oh how I enjoyed seeing your slice of Paradise. Looking forward to watching the progress of restoration over time. Sending you love and energy.
The 'grotta' was used as a wine cellar. The temperature and humidity are constant throughout the year. It is also excellent for storing cheese and cold cuts.
That sounds great!
What an adventure you have embarked upon. I look forward to watching your progress. My son has purchased an old farmhouse east of Torino. So we are invested in the future of this beautiful country also. Best of luck on your construction adventure.
Thanks so much for the kind and encouraging words! Thanks for coming along this adventure with us 😊
You need to watch Raising Voyagers. They are in the same area and have been doing renovations on their stone cabin and it’s been daunting to say the least
We have been following Raising Voyagers! We may have to hire Brady to come help us stack stones :)
Wow good luck beautiful adventure. You say its small i'm renovating a cabin in france its 25m2 so yours is massive in comparison. Have fun and enjoy the process 👍
Thank-you! Size is all relative, right? At approx. 85m2, maybe we're more of a tiny house? The process is certainly part of our adventure. Love your renovation! Well done!
Let’s see progresses
Ciao from Milano Italy 🇮🇹
We’re looking forward to some progress, too. Waiting on our permit. Soon 😊
I follow Raising Voyagers, and always drool over their house and views. Now I’ve found another intrepid couple who are brave enough to build in the Italian mountains. So beautiful!! Can’t wait to see it all happen.
Thanks so much for the kind words! You have to be just a little foolish to take this on. We've done our due diligence and are optimistic that we can add some value and a little bit of us to this lovely property for future generations. Glad to have you onboard to share our journey! Hope to have updates in the near future!
@margaretrosin7853 Same feeling, I do follow Raising Voyagers and Martijn Doolaard. Both of them have amazing views of the Mountain and the valley. Just beautiful.
Good Luck ...you will certainly need it.
No. 390, watching from Queensland Australia, good luck, hard work but to live in Italian mountains and experience the seasonal changes, I imagine this to be just about perfect.
Correction 389.
Thank you so much!
Hello dear people, I bought a ruin in France 26 years ago, less isolated and less high, and I'm still working on it. Are you sure about the age of your house? I ask because in the southwest region in France, if you find a stone (with a year-mark sculpted in it) into a wall or on top of an entrance, it doesn't always indicates the age of that house... sometimes the builders took stones from older (ruined) ones. Oh, and yours is a house, not a cabin...
Wenn you talk about your plans to open up for windows and break out the inner wall I got sceptical, especially because of the inner wall: you'll risk to weaken the stability of the house; arcs instead are an alternative.
Good luck!
Lovely place you’ve got!
- New subscriber here from Pa. USA.
- Can’t wait to see your progress!!
Thanks so much! Happy to have you along for this adventure!
Don’t underestimate the humidity coming down(and up) from the Hill and streetside. Enjoy the adventure and get to know the local regulations (talk with the “tecnico del Comune”)
We agree 👍
Bravi ragazzi, iscritto e attivato campana…mi aspetto bei video …buona fortuna.
Grazie 🙏
that bench could be a Prie-Dieu for kneeling in the grotta to pray, you find them in many churches in france but more stylish but this one is rustic, home made, I might be wrong, but look it up.
Thanks! We’ll have a look.
bravi!
Grazie!
Not many people talk about having a car in Italy. With 27 switchbacks, you'll definitely need a car. Can you share how you are getting around now and what will happen in the future? You'll need to pass that Italian driver's test (in Italian), what is your plan?
We use car rentals and will likely continue with that for the foreseeable future!
@@ACabininItalythanks for the reply and it's probably better using car rentals for as long as you can! I'm subscribed now and looking forward to seeing how your wonderful project progresses!! In boca al Lupo!🐺
@@HoosierInUtah, thank-you so much! We're happily operating under "Italian time" and hope to have progress to share sometime...just may not be soon :)
i761 in the year of the Lord = elJon = 1761
with love :-)TSC #4ALLE
I am dreaming a much money you will figure to spend on that hause ????🤔
A much time to make livable ?🤔
Thanks for your answer 😉
We do not have a price yet for the work. But our budget is modest and we hope to make good decisions to make the most of it. Hopefully, the work can be finished in a year or two!
That’s 1707.
I really hope you don't start clearing trees to get the best view from your house. Even Dolard cuts too many. Peace, trees and life.