Fun fact follow-up: "Get Jinxed" was the first music video that Riot ever made and second song with vocals. The first was "Here Comes Vi" and is just as much of a banger.
Yes, the relationship between Jinx and Silco is the daughter-father kind. Sevika mentions that next episodes. It looks weird because Jinx's mentality doesn't match her looks. She clings to Silco like a 4 year old kid, which makes sense because that's all she is. She grew up, but all she gained all those years was craziness.
@@Red-sv5fu Silco also favors her because she was like him when he was younger when Vander turned his back on him. Either way there's nothing sexual between them.
the way they deal with Jinx's mental status is so well done she relied so heavily on Vi in her childhood and rather than growing mentally and becoming independent she went from the tragedy of losing her family by her own hand and her own perceived abandonment and immediately attached herself to Silco goin from just being codependent on another person to adding on schizophrenia and arguing with her dead friends
Someone else said this but also the moment silco is standing behind jinx she switches from left to right while silco isnt moving at all. I really like how they show that she is not normal in her head. Other then the normal "she was a nice kid and now she is crazy". You can really feel how crazy she is.
I think the problem with Jayce is he's genuine but not authentic. He really believes that he came from nothing and is doing everything for the good of the world...but we see with Viktor that it's not really true. Viktor is the one who came from nothing, despite his disability, and is more committed to advancing the world.
When you're born into obscene wealth while others have less than nothing, there's two paths you can take with it. You can either just shrug and accept that you're a parasite living a life of luxury due to an accident of birth, or you can convince yourself that you earned it. That you have so much while others have nothing because you're special. Some kind of genius visionary who's singlehandedly carrying civilization and giving purpose to the dumb laborers who actually do all the work and create all the wealth. Jayce chose the second option, and he's even more of a tool for it, no matter how affable he is otherwise.
@@mikewaters2126 but jayce wasnt born into wealth, he was saved by a stranger mage and then given patronage by a wealthy family for his studies and inventions, of which he is trying to make inventions for the common people
@@mrdomomrdomo But it is mentioned that his father was a very successful inventor, and he's lived above ground his whole life. In the first episode, he's introduced talking to Caitlyn about how 'dangerous' it is to go to the Undercity, like he was some privileged tourist. Maybe he's not as wealthy as Caitlyn's family, but he absolutely had a privileged upbringing with a powerful name and family legacy.
@@tabaxi what? It was never mentioned that his father was a successful inventor. You may have meant hinted. But even so, it was also stated many times that he is from a lower house. Which is by no means rich or prestige. Have you seen his room?
That’s what I was thinking. They are both very broken, and it is a father-daughter relationship it’s just more touchy then most. But I think it’s intentionally done that way to put people off. If Jinx was really young, no one would bat an eye if she was clingy with Silco. But she acts young when she’s older and it makes everyone raise an eyebrow. It’s a testimony to her mental well-being.
It's pretty apparent that Jinx is suffering some a severe case of dependent personality disorder (along with paranoid schizophrenia.) Explains her freakout she had when Vi left her at Vander's place in episode 3, and her complete lack of boundaries around Silco.
At first I thought too that the relationship between Silco and Jinx was weird but she's just too clingy, Silco never gives a weird vibe while he interacts with her (besides his overall weird vibe)
@@mustard5382 it makes sense, they both were changed by betrayal and it bonds them. (And causes Silico to freak when vi comes back and tries to heal her relationship with powder)
Knowing who Viktor is in the game proper, I really like how they portray him in Arcane. You can just see how he gets from point A to point B and it's something.
"Why are they so scared of her?" Ten seconds later... "...oh." Yeah, Powder got a lot more badass and a lot more mentally disturbed during the time skip.
Marcus saved Vi by taking her out of that situation. Then hiding traces of her away from Silco. He imprisoned her without any paperwork attached. So conceivably no one could find her.
@@TheLightbane agreed, but a necessary one. That's why imo he's the parallel perspective yet flipped side to what Vander maintained. Tough decisions to ensure the safety of those close to you and for those that where closest to you. Yet have to maintain appearances for self preservation.
It is revealed Silco knows that Marcus has her in imprisoned and bribed him including the guards to keep her in there. You can read them in the archives in the LoL client since there was a correspondence between him, labelled as "Concerned benefactor" or something and Marcus' name was blacked out like it was a CIA document Also Vi was charged on 3 counts while in prison: attempted escape (which happens right after Act 1), battery and attempted murder
Vi was immediately imprisoned. They have extra lore in the client. She has apparently has picked a fight with every inmate in the prison (and won them all) and enjoys getting interrogated.
Silco sees her as a daughter. She doesn't know any boundaries but she does see him as a father. Silco "raised" her as sort of like letting her do what she wants under orders of him. Like he'll tell her to do something and she'll do it but he doesn't really care what she does he just lets her do whatever she wants. Because of this and lack of social stimulation of having friends (she literally talks to dolls she made of her dead friends) she becomes very clingy to the only person that shows interest in her (Silco) and she just doesn't understand social norms. But it seems like Silco doesn't mind at all hence why she keeps doing it because it doesn't bother him. He even forgives her for murdering the 6 enforcers because she got some form of result. He DEFO has a soft spot for her like an actual daughter.
I like the imagery of Jinx sitting inside of a giant, old turbine talking to herself. Sitting on the edge of the blade while she is on the edge of sanity. And notice that when Silco defends Jinx and takes her side, he knows she is up in the rafters listening. So I think that might have been a show for her at least to some degree. Contrast that with episode 1 when Powder was eavesdropping on Vi and Milo, but only heard Vi agreeing with him out of context. Reinforcing in her mind that Vi never cared enough to stick up for her, but Silco does. The exact opposite of reality.
Silco also knows that Jinx is mentally unstable since she is very open that she still sees Vi, but he didnt see that as a liability instead she's a very valuable asset that needs to be utilized wisely. Blaming Jinx while knowing fully well she is unstable while on the job is a dumb excuse which is why Silco called Sevika a failure since she was very lax on securing the site and unaware that Jinx is used as a last resort and a one-man clean up crew which is why she is placed below deck
@@primecoconut4204 Actually a very good point! If Sevika and them know what Jinx is like, they should have plans to handle her or deal with situations before she is forced to come out. She said "I could handle them" but the Firelights were very clearly going to burn the Shimmer and bounce before she got the chance.
@@VegaSlides Imagine being Silco and stuff like this happens. It would be very stressful and a massive headache. The only thing I can think of what is going in his mind is: "I gave you my best and most valuable enforcer that I could offer, who you should know what she is by now. And you still managed to fuck up."
A show maybe but I think part of Silco believes that Jinx is not to blame. He’s very defensive about her because she is in many ways like him. This attitude about her has likely gone on for a while, judging by how Sevika doesnt ask why he’s defending her. She knows very well why, so it’s implied that he takes her side regularly.
I love how people gotta clarify that it is, in fact, a father/daughter relationship here in the comments. The writers did a really good job at making it uncomfortable as hell to watch, lmao.
Its sad though because in reality she acts like a child (who, in this context if she was a child being so close to silco, nobody would question it because children are clingy) because she's never been reprimanded for her behavior.
Jinx has always been like that especially after that traumatic event. She tends to hug whoever she likes or friends. You can take Chuck the bartender for example.
It was literally just her normal attack... which becomes faster as she attacks if I remember right? Haven't played in years though... Her ultimate ability is to fire a rocket that can travel across the entire map and does more damage the lower an enemy's health is... oh and the rocket explodes into a decently large area, meaning you can snipe the entire enemy team from across the map if you're good enough and they're all wounded from a fight with the rest of your team.
Imagine Dragons made " Warriors " for riot games`s world championship in 2014 , they also play league , they are beloved in the league community , it was a no-brainer to get them to do this.
The Hexgate sequence is absolutely epic. This gigantic magic steampunk machine slowly powering up as this simple and smooth epic melody rises up. The formation of the magical forces around the airship as it floats into position, and the surge and "whoosh" as the music crescendos. . Whoever did that, knows what they're fuckin' doing. I could seriously watch that on a loop.
So the song Jinx is vibing out to while working on her stuff, when Silco comes to yell at her like an angry dad, is apparently her theme song in the game. It's called "Get Jinxed" and *Jeff Goldblum voice* it actually ah, ah, slaps. Also great job with these reaction/reviews, y'all. I've laughed out loud several times during every one.
Jinx's and Silco's relationship may look a bit odd but it's because Jinx mentally is still like a kid, he is like a father figure in a way and she just acts all touchy and clingy with him because she has never really grown up mentally, I mean if u look at how kids act w their parents they tend to be clingy and Jinx has always been very attached to whoever looked after her
I too was really worried about Silco's treatment of Jinx with that first scene in his office. I mean, he's not a good role model, but it was a relief when I realized that there was NOT anything sexual going on. I also got that Joker and Harley vibe, except he isn't abusive- at least not in the same way or to the same degree- as the Joker, and he's not crazy, just evil.
Mad respect to everyone at Fortiche animation and the Riot team that put the script together. There was tremendous effort put into every bit of this and it shows.
I think their interactions are less romantic/sexual and more mentor/religious leader/father. At least from Silco's side. Jinx, idk. She's a dependent wild card right now. But I just think she needs someone to rely on her, to treat her like she's not a jinx. The relationship is just reminiscent of Joker/Harley because she crazy, and crazy dependent on his being there for her. Silco so far hasn't shown any signs of desiring her in the way people are assuming. He sees himself in her, and my bet is he just wants her to grow up, to get the same enlightenment, like he did. Because he thinks he's so right, in both how to save Zaun and how to be strong. Maybe it's also because after finding someone like him, he doesn't wanna be alone. So, he tries to look out for her but the only way he thinks he can is to make her more like him. Make her powerful. (He also looks like he's dying, so he might also be grooming a successor) It's weird. But if you think about both of their characters perspectives and motivations, it makes sense.
WE BACK! HAPPY PROGRESS DAY! Jinx/Powder - really is one of my favourite Characters. I did not think i would ever care about her but man she is done really well. I like how they are showcasing the fluctuation of her mental state. Or how she replaced one Father Figure (Vander) with his Killer (Silco). Quite Morbid but understandable for a girl that only wants to find herself and gain some recognition, love and maybe respect even. I was afraid her "Crazyness" would come of the wrong way, but it fits and feels really good to me - wich still feels bad because ....man fk i just want to hug her :( Jinx and Silco feels very obviously (atleast for me) like a father daughter relationship - Jinx has MASSIVE abandonment issues, is extra clingy, knows no boundaries ect ect. 20:00 GET JINXED Mel is one hell of a manipulative woman, I love how they're developing her character. Caitlyn - also a Character i frequently play as but never really cared for. She`s really interesting in Arcane tho. Poor Victor looking so sickly :( i think Jayce would share the Fame but Victor truly does not care about it at all. He is a Scientist 100% of the time.
Powder suffered an extreme psychotic break at the end of ep.3. She'd always had some underlying issues before, and then they sheltered her pretty thoroughly for most of her life. Then "that" happened. Now, the psychological trauma was so severe that her brain literally physically damaged itself in a desperate attempt to keep functioning. Like digging a firebreak in a wildfire. Nothing and no one can help her anymore, because now she's forever trapped with the fire, and it will never go out.
Jayce isn't from a different world, the mage just teleported him and his mother from the mountains to the valley, the same way the hexgates teleport ships between cities now
I love that they initially thought the monkey exploded 5 times. Like every explosion caused massive damage to everything around it but that janky tin monkey somehow survived and kept blowing up. They were so immersed in the episode that all logic went out the window.
The show does alot of cool visual things that most others don't, I appreciate that about it but yeah, it seems to throw viewers off more than I expected.
I find it easier to think of Jinx/Powder as severely emotionally stunted. She behaves like a child, acts like one, and clings like one. If you think of her as a 9-10 year old then the Jinx-Silco relationship becomes less weird.
Powder/Jynx definitely gives off Harley Quinn Vibes. She hears all the voices and sees things but still very much hyper focused in this realty, her aim and reaction time is inhuman like
bruh i literally just finished watching your reaction to episode 3, and I was thinking to myself "oh manI cant wait to see their reaction to the other episodes." and you post it right then iconic timing
Mia Sinclair (Powder) is 15 *now.* She was 11-12 at the time of recording. I don't know if they give out Oscar's for voice acting but if they do, no one has ever earned it more.
Their story won't have any more time jumps because this is how they look in the game. But next season the new characters in a another location might have a couple episodes of backstory and then a time jump to catch up.
@@-6ix559 Jinx hasn't reached her final form yet, they teased it at the end of Episode 3. When her eyes turn pink/purple, that's when she'll reach her final form.
Well Vi's tattoo on her face get bigger over time. Vi is around 20 here (Confirmed by in game journal event) so Jinx probably 15-17. FOR YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSED AND CURIOUS Piltover and Zaun has they're on fundamental technology. Piltover = Hextech (Base on Magic) Zaun = Chemtech (Base on Chemicals) Fun Fact: One of Vi's skin called "Demon Vi" has VI VI VI (666) in her pants
Remember the first explosion on the first episode? Caitlyn was there and saw a blue haired little girl. And in this episode she sees the same blue hair again
This story seems to be setting up the characters as how they are represented in the games current timeline. So if you want to avoid spoilers don’t play the game yet or read up on Jinx and Vi’s lore.
Of all the reaction channels that react to arcane, you have the best edits, great thoughts, and catch up quickly with the story. Great work. Just thought it had to be said.
Man, I love your reaction and discussion about the show. You guys really notice and dig deep in the details, absolutely love that. And the fact that you guys do not have the background knowledge about some characters make it even better. Can wait to see more!
29:37 he cant calm down with noxians (the biggest and mos expansionist empire in runeterra) , the only thing halting its advance to conquer piltover is because its a trade route, but sure as heck they will eventually try to take over, and the series love to reference noxus alot.
Now that you've seen Jinx , you guys really should react to the music video "Get Jinxed" , well animated and arcane gave it a whole new context , i would also recommend watching the "Call for power" cinamatic , shows well how mages are powerfull and the kind of thing Heimerdinger is afraid .
I want you guys to know something: Professor Hiemerdinger's species is known as yordles and yordles live in bandle city In bandle city, time moves differently, so professor Hiemerdinger can be more than a 1000 years old. In league of legends lore, 900 years before the events of arcane, there was a huge war called the rune war. World runes are powerful stones(like infinity stones) and were used to create the planet this story is taking place on. That's right, this ain't earth. This planet is called runeterra. SO, It might be possible Hiemerdinger is referencing the rune wars when he said magic causes destruction.
The relationship between Silco and Jinx is that of a father-daughter type one (although even if he does genuinely care for her like a daughter he is also kind of using her and enabling her trauma because he went through similar trauma and did not uhh learn to cope with it well so) Post timeskip Vi is around 24 I believe so Jinx is probably like around 17-19
I could've sworn they used some kind of mocap simply because how close Jayce looks to Kevin Alejandro (Dan Espinoza in Lucifer). They captured all of his mannerisms...it's like a younger version of the voice actor himself.
Him looking like the voice actor doesn't mean mocap... that just means a great modelling team. What i can definitely tell you is that it's not uncommon to do performance capture with close up videos of the faces,. That captured reference is such a crucial component of great CGI or CG animation, and that's probably how they laid a base their mannerisms before fine tuning them. If they really didn't use mocap for the entirety of the show, i have no idea how the stuck to their deadlines within a reasonable budget simply key framing everything. It's insane thinking about them hand placing a random model in the background walking around without mocap, or an old animation, as a basis. Key framed 3D animation is extremely time consuming when trying to make look natural (even in with stylized worlds and exaggerated motions). That animation department deserves props and a vacation lol
Studio that made this and the showrunners from riot, both worked on jinx and vi originally (and their release songs /videos as overs have mentioned) It's beautiful as a fan for so long that those who've been with the characters since the beginning (fans like myself included) to finally delve deeper into who they are
Marcus had to lock up VI because if you remember before; the enforcer's deal with Vander was that they needed to lock someone up so that enforcers don't storm into zaun (undercity)
the leader of the fire lights is EKKO. The dynamic between jinx and ekko is going to be really interesting cause jinx killed that pink haired fire light.
Jinx's VA is the actress who played Bautistas daughter in Army of the Dead. Can we just agree the depiction of mental instability in this is freaking scary and beautifully handled
17:30 Looooool! I saw this was uploaded around the time of release but this is straight up some early release stuff! x'D I don't remember how long the "Jinx in baby voice" subtitle stayed there but it wasn't long. x'D
I love the way they show how different Zaun is now to when Vander was in charge. With Vander, there was a harsh reality to the world but one that had a sense of loyalty, respect, and brotherhood. With Silco, it's the hardcore party lifestyle of everyone out for themselves and fear being used to keep others in line.
as for other sources of lore, a lot of what people know come from sources outside the actual game; there are promotion videos, music videos, web comics, and even a book full of lore.
If the animation studio, Fortiche, was capable of rendering minute expressions with such loving detail - There is no way that they didn't intend of Jinx and Silco to have such a tension "are they gonna - no, no they can't - but Are They?" I fully believe that making their relationship hard to define especially with the Really Visible shows of physical intimacy is the Point actually. And it is supposed to make the audience uncomfortable or at least in anticipation of something that they're not sure *won't* happen. They want the audience to always be second guessing. They don't want the relationship to be that clear cut. That's the entertainment value.
You forget that VI and the gang robbed Jayce's workshop in the first episode, AND she's from the Undercity, Markus could have put her in prison for BOTH
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Fun Fact: The song that you hear in the background when Jinx listens to music and ignores Silco screams, thats "Get Jinxed". Her theme song.
A song by Jinx, about Jinx, sung by Jinx. Lmao
shit cranks
Such an awesome video too.
Fun fact follow-up: "Get Jinxed" was the first music video that Riot ever made and second song with vocals. The first was "Here Comes Vi" and is just as much of a banger.
@@PissedWalrus i mean Get Jinxed had 100 million views, here comes Vi has 5, so I wouldn’t say they are on comparable lvl.
Yes, the relationship between Jinx and Silco is the daughter-father kind. Sevika mentions that next episodes.
It looks weird because Jinx's mentality doesn't match her looks. She clings to Silco like a 4 year old kid, which makes sense because that's all she is. She grew up, but all she gained all those years was craziness.
I think there's suppose to be some awkward assumptions made about their relationship. People just don't want to go there.
Almost, to Jinx it may feel like they have a father-daughter relationship but Silco is grooming her for his personal interests.
@@Red-sv5fu Silco also favors her because she was like him when he was younger when Vander turned his back on him. Either way there's nothing sexual between them.
@@artboymoy more like she acts like a kid would act with their parents.
@@Red-sv5fu Wtf??? There's never any hint about Silco grooming Jinx.
the way they deal with Jinx's mental status is so well done she relied so heavily on Vi in her childhood and rather than growing mentally and becoming independent she went from the tragedy of losing her family by her own hand and her own perceived abandonment and immediately attached herself to Silco goin from just being codependent on another person to adding on schizophrenia and arguing with her dead friends
Someone else said this but also the moment silco is standing behind jinx she switches from left to right while silco isnt moving at all.
I really like how they show that she is not normal in her head. Other then the normal "she was a nice kid and now she is crazy". You can really feel how crazy she is.
I just wished they built it up more, they just made her go from 0 to 100... Well knowing the future she should be going to 100 to 200.
@@MatthewCJoy 0-100 it’s a 10 year timeskip.
@@mufidlassissi5058 i thought it was 3 years ngl
I think the problem with Jayce is he's genuine but not authentic. He really believes that he came from nothing and is doing everything for the good of the world...but we see with Viktor that it's not really true. Viktor is the one who came from nothing, despite his disability, and is more committed to advancing the world.
When you're born into obscene wealth while others have less than nothing, there's two paths you can take with it. You can either just shrug and accept that you're a parasite living a life of luxury due to an accident of birth, or you can convince yourself that you earned it. That you have so much while others have nothing because you're special. Some kind of genius visionary who's singlehandedly carrying civilization and giving purpose to the dumb laborers who actually do all the work and create all the wealth.
Jayce chose the second option, and he's even more of a tool for it, no matter how affable he is otherwise.
@@mikewaters2126 but jayce wasnt born into wealth, he was saved by a stranger mage and then given patronage by a wealthy family for his studies and inventions, of which he is trying to make inventions for the common people
@@mrdomomrdomo But it is mentioned that his father was a very successful inventor, and he's lived above ground his whole life. In the first episode, he's introduced talking to Caitlyn about how 'dangerous' it is to go to the Undercity, like he was some privileged tourist. Maybe he's not as wealthy as Caitlyn's family, but he absolutely had a privileged upbringing with a powerful name and family legacy.
Viktor is my favorite character so far. Can't wait for the Glorious Evolution!
@@tabaxi what? It was never mentioned that his father was a successful inventor. You may have meant hinted. But even so, it was also stated many times that he is from a lower house. Which is by no means rich or prestige. Have you seen his room?
yes guys it's a father-daughter relationship it's just that jinx is very clingy to silco!
That’s what I was thinking. They are both very broken, and it is a father-daughter relationship it’s just more touchy then most. But I think it’s intentionally done that way to put people off.
If Jinx was really young, no one would bat an eye if she was clingy with Silco. But she acts young when she’s older and it makes everyone raise an eyebrow. It’s a testimony to her mental well-being.
It's pretty apparent that Jinx is suffering some a severe case of dependent personality disorder (along with paranoid schizophrenia.) Explains her freakout she had when Vi left her at Vander's place in episode 3, and her complete lack of boundaries around Silco.
In my head canon Silco hit that pale ass on the side
@@Ash_Howl bruh
@@Ash_Howl ayo🤔🧐🤨
Jinx is like a clingy daughter always looking for validation.
Also join the glorious evolution.
Lool they probably have no idea what that phrase means. 😉 But they are about to find out
GLORIOUS EVOLUTION , man im really hyped to see Viktor's character development , really hope they show his "Prototype" self
True sigma grindset.
At first I thought too that the relationship between Silco and Jinx was weird but she's just too clingy, Silco never gives a weird vibe while he interacts with her (besides his overall weird vibe)
i just think theey have the same relationship as Roman and Neo from rwby
No I think silco wouldn't hurt her
@@mustard5382 it makes sense, they both were changed by betrayal and it bonds them. (And causes Silico to freak when vi comes back and tries to heal her relationship with powder)
@@mustard5382 why it is weird? Even bad people have someone they care about. Unless you are a psychopath, almost everyone can end up liking someone.
To me it felt like he groomed her but idk lmao
Knowing who Viktor is in the game proper, I really like how they portray him in Arcane. You can just see how he gets from point A to point B and it's something.
We need a season 2, TO SEE SOME GLORIOUS EVOLUTION by viktor
@@doppio8602 I hope we get to see Proto Viktor on act 3
100% agree as an avid viktor player I love the way they portrayed him
His current in-game lore is honestly just as good, if not better than his portrayal in Arcane
Everytime I see a comment about Viktor. I check the replies and I always predetermine it to have "Glorious Evolution" it never disappoints.
"Why are they so scared of her?"
Ten seconds later...
"...oh."
Yeah, Powder got a lot more badass and a lot more mentally disturbed during the time skip.
They have a father daughter relationship.Nothing sexual happens...powder doesn’t know boundaries
@@SwordTune I think she is still between the two.
@@SwordTune shhhhh 🤣
@@SwordTune she fell down a well and died
@@SwordTune i. dont. like.
Yeah, Jinx is "that" girl.
I like how Sevika was like "I could have handled them" when they trapped her and her whole crew in those crystal bomb traps without breaking a sweat.
True but I think they had her be helpless for that moment so it’s a bigger reveal when her new arm is shown next episode
@@astrea4020 stupid comment are you arguing the plot
btw, Heimerdinger may be 307 years old but hes still in his youth. how Heimer sees 10 years is how Jayce would see a few months
Holy shit, I never knew.
Marcus saved Vi by taking her out of that situation. Then hiding traces of her away from Silco. He imprisoned her without any paperwork attached. So conceivably no one could find her.
+1
Not exactly the kind of witness protection that you might want
@@TheLightbane agreed, but a necessary one. That's why imo he's the parallel perspective yet flipped side to what Vander maintained. Tough decisions to ensure the safety of those close to you and for those that where closest to you. Yet have to maintain appearances for self preservation.
smart
It is revealed Silco knows that Marcus has her in imprisoned and bribed him including the guards to keep her in there. You can read them in the archives in the LoL client since there was a correspondence between him, labelled as "Concerned benefactor" or something and Marcus' name was blacked out like it was a CIA document
Also Vi was charged on 3 counts while in prison: attempted escape (which happens right after Act 1), battery and attempted murder
"It's like she never grew up." You hit the nail on the head. She's stuck in the past.
Vi was immediately imprisoned. They have extra lore in the client. She has apparently has picked a fight with every inmate in the prison (and won them all) and enjoys getting interrogated.
nothing sexual between them , it's 100% a father/daughter type relationship
They're still 100% weird
Everybody keeps saying that kind of thing like they all forgot that Japan and Arkansas exist.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 wut???
Nahh there was def a weird vibe. I think they implied it, but won't go there. Some sexual tension, but still mentor and mentee type of relationship.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 the sexual tension comes from the filing that if Silco were to try it she wouldn't say no.
Silco sees her as a daughter. She doesn't know any boundaries but she does see him as a father. Silco "raised" her as sort of like letting her do what she wants under orders of him. Like he'll tell her to do something and she'll do it but he doesn't really care what she does he just lets her do whatever she wants. Because of this and lack of social stimulation of having friends (she literally talks to dolls she made of her dead friends) she becomes very clingy to the only person that shows interest in her (Silco) and she just doesn't understand social norms. But it seems like Silco doesn't mind at all hence why she keeps doing it because it doesn't bother him. He even forgives her for murdering the 6 enforcers because she got some form of result. He DEFO has a soft spot for her like an actual daughter.
I like the imagery of Jinx sitting inside of a giant, old turbine talking to herself. Sitting on the edge of the blade while she is on the edge of sanity.
And notice that when Silco defends Jinx and takes her side, he knows she is up in the rafters listening. So I think that might have been a show for her at least to some degree. Contrast that with episode 1 when Powder was eavesdropping on Vi and Milo, but only heard Vi agreeing with him out of context. Reinforcing in her mind that Vi never cared enough to stick up for her, but Silco does. The exact opposite of reality.
Silco also knows that Jinx is mentally unstable since she is very open that she still sees Vi, but he didnt see that as a liability instead she's a very valuable asset that needs to be utilized wisely.
Blaming Jinx while knowing fully well she is unstable while on the job is a dumb excuse which is why Silco called Sevika a failure since she was very lax on securing the site and unaware that Jinx is used as a last resort and a one-man clean up crew which is why she is placed below deck
@@primecoconut4204 Actually a very good point! If Sevika and them know what Jinx is like, they should have plans to handle her or deal with situations before she is forced to come out. She said "I could handle them" but the Firelights were very clearly going to burn the Shimmer and bounce before she got the chance.
@@VegaSlides Imagine being Silco and stuff like this happens. It would be very stressful and a massive headache. The only thing I can think of what is going in his mind is: "I gave you my best and most valuable enforcer that I could offer, who you should know what she is by now. And you still managed to fuck up."
A show maybe but I think part of Silco believes that Jinx is not to blame. He’s very defensive about her because she is in many ways like him. This attitude about her has likely gone on for a while, judging by how Sevika doesnt ask why he’s defending her. She knows very well why, so it’s implied that he takes her side regularly.
@@primecoconut4204 facts. If you had to use Jinx, then you messed up already
"Jinx has no problem with murder". Yup.
They don't know what Jinx did in the get jinxed music video.
Those were not "robots"
"Everyone goes BOOM"
- Jinx
I love how people gotta clarify that it is, in fact, a father/daughter relationship here in the comments.
The writers did a really good job at making it uncomfortable as hell to watch, lmao.
And lets not forget that they have watched all of Act 2 by now so they know just as much as us.
Its sad though because in reality she acts like a child (who, in this context if she was a child being so close to silco, nobody would question it because children are clingy) because she's never been reprimanded for her behavior.
@@whatinthegoddamn2353 Yeah her mental state stayed as a child but her innocence has long been gone. I'm so sad for her 🥺
9:17 "She just used her ult". You hear the sighs of thousands of LOL players
We haven't even seen Fishbones, yet :(
Jinx has always been like that especially after that traumatic event. She tends to hug whoever she likes or friends. You can take Chuck the bartender for example.
Poor Chuck lol
Never noticed that detail. I thought she was just being friendly. She really is starved for love.
Jinx is kind of Harley Quinn mixed with the joker rolled into one. An insane, dependant genius with no problem with murder.
"She just used her ult."
Me: "Oh sweet baby child..."
It was literally just her normal attack... which becomes faster as she attacks if I remember right? Haven't played in years though...
Her ultimate ability is to fire a rocket that can travel across the entire map and does more damage the lower an enemy's health is... oh and the rocket explodes into a decently large area, meaning you can snipe the entire enemy team from across the map if you're good enough and they're all wounded from a fight with the rest of your team.
dat finale
@isle9 if u build her lethality her q becomes a mini ult
Imagine Dragons made " Warriors " for riot games`s world championship in 2014 , they also play league , they are beloved in the league community , it was a no-brainer to get them to do this.
The Hexgate sequence is absolutely epic. This gigantic magic steampunk machine slowly powering up as this simple and smooth epic melody rises up. The formation of the magical forces around the airship as it floats into position, and the surge and "whoosh" as the music crescendos.
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Whoever did that, knows what they're fuckin' doing. I could seriously watch that on a loop.
So the song Jinx is vibing out to while working on her stuff, when Silco comes to yell at her like an angry dad, is apparently her theme song in the game. It's called "Get Jinxed" and *Jeff Goldblum voice* it actually ah, ah, slaps.
Also great job with these reaction/reviews, y'all. I've laughed out loud several times during every one.
Also he stops the music right as it would say "I am feeling a little ignored"
@@eduardokerber2931 I didn't notice that! The detail, man.
Jinx's and Silco's relationship may look a bit odd but it's because Jinx mentally is still like a kid, he is like a father figure in a way and she just acts all touchy and clingy with him because she has never really grown up mentally, I mean if u look at how kids act w their parents they tend to be clingy and Jinx has always been very attached to whoever looked after her
I too was really worried about Silco's treatment of Jinx with that first scene in his office. I mean, he's not a good role model, but it was a relief when I realized that there was NOT anything sexual going on. I also got that Joker and Harley vibe, except he isn't abusive- at least not in the same way or to the same degree- as the Joker, and he's not crazy, just evil.
For some shots, the production studio said that a whole day of work would only make 0.75 sec of animation.
Imagine the boss is coming and everyone has to show what they did that they. Here it is and here its gone lol
Mad respect to everyone at Fortiche animation and the Riot team that put the script together. There was tremendous effort put into every bit of this and it shows.
Gonna be a while for season 2.
@@gudhaxer41343 I'm thinking late 2023-early 2024. Their animation team is alot bigger than what they started with.
I think their interactions are less romantic/sexual and more mentor/religious leader/father. At least from Silco's side. Jinx, idk. She's a dependent wild card right now. But I just think she needs someone to rely on her, to treat her like she's not a jinx. The relationship is just reminiscent of Joker/Harley because she crazy, and crazy dependent on his being there for her.
Silco so far hasn't shown any signs of desiring her in the way people are assuming. He sees himself in her, and my bet is he just wants her to grow up, to get the same enlightenment, like he did. Because he thinks he's so right, in both how to save Zaun and how to be strong.
Maybe it's also because after finding someone like him, he doesn't wanna be alone. So, he tries to look out for her but the only way he thinks he can is to make her more like him. Make her powerful. (He also looks like he's dying, so he might also be grooming a successor)
It's weird. But if you think about both of their characters perspectives and motivations, it makes sense.
Jinx got close to his face to take a look at his eye, not because of anything else. It's strictly father and daughter.
I was waiting for this the whole Weekend.
SAME
I’m so lucky I discovered them last night. But it’s gonna suck having to wait for Act 3
WE BACK! HAPPY PROGRESS DAY!
Jinx/Powder - really is one of my favourite Characters. I did not think i would ever care about her but man she is done really well. I like how they are showcasing the fluctuation of her mental state.
Or how she replaced one Father Figure (Vander) with his Killer (Silco). Quite Morbid but understandable for a girl that only wants to find herself and gain some recognition, love and maybe respect even. I was afraid her "Crazyness" would come of the wrong way, but it fits and feels really good to me - wich still feels bad because ....man fk i just want to hug her :(
Jinx and Silco feels very obviously (atleast for me) like a father daughter relationship - Jinx has MASSIVE abandonment issues, is extra clingy, knows no boundaries ect ect.
20:00 GET JINXED
Mel is one hell of a manipulative woman, I love how they're developing her character.
Caitlyn - also a Character i frequently play as but never really cared for. She`s really interesting in Arcane tho.
Poor Victor looking so sickly :( i think Jayce would share the Fame but Victor truly does not care about it at all. He is a Scientist 100% of the time.
well i think with Viktor its more like he doesnt want people to see the state he is in..
Waiting for this all week! Best reaction group ive found for this show, and now more that im watching.
Chris was super quick to pick up on Jinx still being in the mind of a child lol, just part of why i love his reactions
Father-daughter, I think its mainly Jinx's clothing and behavior that's making it weird.
Yeah she acting like she still a a baby which she mentally is but it definitely was awkward to watch.
her clothing doesn’t matter, it’s just her childish personality and attachment issues.
Powder suffered an extreme psychotic break at the end of ep.3. She'd always had some underlying issues before, and then they sheltered her pretty thoroughly for most of her life. Then "that" happened. Now, the psychological trauma was so severe that her brain literally physically damaged itself in a desperate attempt to keep functioning. Like digging a firebreak in a wildfire. Nothing and no one can help her anymore, because now she's forever trapped with the fire, and it will never go out.
Jayce isn't from a different world, the mage just teleported him and his mother from the mountains to the valley, the same way the hexgates teleport ships between cities now
The song at 20:00 is is called "Get Jinxed" and is Jinx's theme. It was released when she was added to the game 8 years ago.
y'all grinding out the videos today can't wait for the rest of act 2 soon
I love that they initially thought the monkey exploded 5 times. Like every explosion caused massive damage to everything around it but that janky tin monkey somehow survived and kept blowing up. They were so immersed in the episode that all logic went out the window.
The show does alot of cool visual things that most others don't, I appreciate that about it but yeah, it seems to throw viewers off more than I expected.
I find it easier to think of Jinx/Powder as severely emotionally stunted. She behaves like a child, acts like one, and clings like one. If you think of her as a 9-10 year old then the Jinx-Silco relationship becomes less weird.
i'm dumb and even with credits it took me forever to realize harry lloyd (Viserys Game of Thrones) is the voice of Viktor.
'She just used her ult!', nope, that's her basic attack.
AA ftw
Just realized that Jinx hasn't brought out her FISHBONE the entire series so far. :o
@@rakibamin7015 Oh boy you jinxed it
"Oh man jinx just ultied" *Jinx auto attacks* I think hes gonna be surprised by her in the future lol
Powder/Jynx definitely gives off Harley Quinn Vibes. She hears all the voices and sees things but still very much hyper focused in this realty, her aim and reaction time is inhuman like
Heimerdinger is a portmanteau of J. Robert Oppenheimer and Erwin Schrödinger's last names.
Is this true or you just trolling?
@@neogetright7542 true
can't stop thinking about Arcane 😭
bruh i literally just finished watching your reaction to episode 3, and I was thinking to myself "oh manI cant wait to see their reaction to the other episodes." and you post it right then iconic timing
Mia Sinclair (Powder) is 15 *now.*
She was 11-12 at the time of recording.
I don't know if they give out Oscar's for voice acting but if they do, no one has ever earned it more.
I was gonna say….I really hope the whole group keeps up with the show because the show is really great :)
"Dude jinx has no problem with murder!?"
LOL
Their story won't have any more time jumps because this is how they look in the game. But next season the new characters in a another location might have a couple episodes of backstory and then a time jump to catch up.
Lol Suraj was so uncomfortable watching that Jinx Silco scene, I was like wtf is going on for a second too.
Fun Fact: Imagine Dragons loves League so when Riot heard about that they reached out and since then have collaborated on many projects
If they think Arcane Jinx is bad, just wait until her eyes turn purple.
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@@-6ix559 watch Get Jinxed and let me tell you, those are not robots but humans.
@@-6ix559 Jinx hasn't reached her final form yet, they teased it at the end of Episode 3. When her eyes turn pink/purple, that's when she'll reach her final form.
@@joenull5945 her “final form” of insanity
Why did you people feel the need to spoil this?
22:14 "who the hell are you" violet is such an entertaining fun to hear and watch charachter ( the voice actresses are soo darn good its crazy )
She was so badass and iconic in that shot. Impresses on people that all that prison time was not kind to her whatsoever, made her jacked af tho lol
I remember first seeing her perform in True Grit, she's so good.
Well Vi's tattoo on her face get bigger over time. Vi is around 20 here (Confirmed by in game journal event) so Jinx probably 15-17. FOR YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSED AND CURIOUS Piltover and Zaun has they're on fundamental technology.
Piltover = Hextech (Base on Magic)
Zaun = Chemtech (Base on Chemicals)
Fun Fact: One of Vi's skin called "Demon Vi" has VI VI VI (666) in her pants
Remember the first explosion on the first episode? Caitlyn was there and saw a blue haired little girl. And in this episode she sees the same blue hair again
The reason Vi is locked up is that the police still needed a prisoner locked up for the heist that happened in episode 1.
This story seems to be setting up the characters as how they are represented in the games current timeline. So if you want to avoid spoilers don’t play the game yet or read up on Jinx and Vi’s lore.
Of all the reaction channels that react to arcane, you have the best edits, great thoughts, and catch up quickly with the story. Great work. Just thought it had to be said.
Man, I love your reaction and discussion about the show. You guys really notice and dig deep in the details, absolutely love that. And the fact that you guys do not have the background knowledge about some characters make it even better. Can wait to see more!
Much appreciated!
I'm so glad you guys are continuing to react to this! You won't be disappointed.
Jayce : Can i borrow you for a minute?
Mel : How about for every nite?
Jayce : wat?
13:18
Bruh yall gasping for a second with Jinx getting reeeeaaaal close to Silco will always be funny 😝
29:37 he cant calm down with noxians (the biggest and mos expansionist empire in runeterra) , the only thing halting its advance to conquer piltover is because its a trade route, but sure as heck they will eventually try to take over, and the series love to reference noxus alot.
Now that you've seen Jinx , you guys really should react to the music video "Get Jinxed" , well animated and arcane gave it a whole new context , i would also recommend watching the "Call for power" cinamatic , shows well how mages are powerfull and the kind of thing Heimerdinger is afraid .
*Poro.*
Look them up, cause they're adorable, and Riot has them as both stressballs & plushies for merchandise.
Powder was 7, Jinx is 17 here; it has been 10 years, hence Heimerdinger's comment about how a decade "can pass in the blink of an eye"
this show is so good
Prediction : We haven't seen echo yet so I'm guessing he's the fire lights leader or whatever they're called 🤷🏽
“I want more Mel” so does Jayce
I want you guys to know something:
Professor Hiemerdinger's species is known as yordles and yordles live in bandle city
In bandle city, time moves differently, so professor Hiemerdinger can be more than a 1000 years old.
In league of legends lore, 900 years before the events of arcane, there was a huge war called the rune war.
World runes are powerful stones(like infinity stones) and were used to create the planet this story is taking place on. That's right, this ain't earth. This planet is called runeterra.
SO, It might be possible Hiemerdinger is referencing the rune wars when he said magic causes destruction.
Just tell them to go watch "Call of power"
it basically explains Heimer fears.
The relationship between Silco and Jinx is that of a father-daughter type one (although even if he does genuinely care for her like a daughter he is also kind of using her and enabling her trauma because he went through similar trauma and did not uhh learn to cope with it well so)
Post timeskip Vi is around 24 I believe so Jinx is probably like around 17-19
YAAAAAAY! This show is SO GOOD! I've watched every episode twice already and Ive never played LoL in my life. cray cray
I could've sworn they used some kind of mocap simply because how close Jayce looks to Kevin Alejandro (Dan Espinoza in Lucifer). They captured all of his mannerisms...it's like a younger version of the voice actor himself.
Wait, I didn't even know that was him xD
Him looking like the voice actor doesn't mean mocap... that just means a great modelling team.
What i can definitely tell you is that it's not uncommon to do performance capture with close up videos of the faces,. That captured reference is such a crucial component of great CGI or CG animation, and that's probably how they laid a base their mannerisms before fine tuning them.
If they really didn't use mocap for the entirety of the show, i have no idea how the stuck to their deadlines within a reasonable budget simply key framing everything. It's insane thinking about them hand placing a random model in the background walking around without mocap, or an old animation, as a basis. Key framed 3D animation is extremely time consuming when trying to make look natural (even in with stylized worlds and exaggerated motions). That animation department deserves props and a vacation lol
20:00 The song playing by the way is her song. On the day of her release the song "Get Jinxed" also debuted. It was also released 8 years ago.
"I want more Mel and Jayce"
Well... 😏
Riot: say less fam
Riot: So you want fully animated penetration? I'm on it.
Jayce hammering as usual
Studio that made this and the showrunners from riot, both worked on jinx and vi originally (and their release songs /videos as overs have mentioned)
It's beautiful as a fan for so long that those who've been with the characters since the beginning (fans like myself included) to finally delve deeper into who they are
The song Jinx is rocking out to is called "Get Jinxed" it was the soundtrack to her original Jinx story video.
Great reactions yall. I don't blame you guys for being a little weirded out by Jinx and Silco's relationships because I was also Side-eyeing it.
Yo, i'm so invested in ya'll reaction on this one. IDK why.
Heimerdinger's pet is called a "PORO" and its the cutest shit ever
Marcus had to lock up VI because if you remember before; the enforcer's deal with Vander was that they needed to lock someone up so that enforcers don't storm into zaun (undercity)
the leader of the fire lights is EKKO. The dynamic between jinx and ekko is going to be really interesting cause jinx killed that pink haired fire light.
Jinx was listening to her own theme song (Get Jinxed) when she's working with the Hextech stone.
Jinx's VA is the actress who played Bautistas daughter in Army of the Dead. Can we just agree the depiction of mental instability in this is freaking scary and beautifully handled
17:30 Looooool! I saw this was uploaded around the time of release but this is straight up some early release stuff! x'D
I don't remember how long the "Jinx in baby voice" subtitle stayed there but it wasn't long. x'D
"It's been at least a year, right ?"
=> Supermassive facepalm.
I love the way they show how different Zaun is now to when Vander was in charge. With Vander, there was a harsh reality to the world but one that had a sense of loyalty, respect, and brotherhood. With Silco, it's the hardcore party lifestyle of everyone out for themselves and fear being used to keep others in line.
Cant wait for part 5 and 6 reactions been waiting all day since I discovered part 1-3 this morning
as for other sources of lore, a lot of what people know come from sources outside the actual game; there are promotion videos, music videos, web comics, and even a book full of lore.
Been waiting for my fav Arcane reaction show
Everytime I see a comment about Viktor. I check the replies and I always predetermine it to have "Glorious Evolution" it never disappoints.
You guys should do a reaction video to "Get Jinxed" which is the song Jinx was listening to in her workshop.
I believe in the series, Zaun isnt officially Zaun yet, just Lanes, the poor part of Piltover
You all should definitely react to the league cinematics.
Warriors and Awaken are great starting points
If the animation studio, Fortiche, was capable of rendering minute expressions with such loving detail -
There is no way that they didn't intend of Jinx and Silco to have such a tension "are they gonna - no, no they can't - but Are They?"
I fully believe that making their relationship hard to define especially with the Really Visible shows of physical intimacy is the Point actually. And it is supposed to make the audience uncomfortable or at least in anticipation of something that they're not sure *won't* happen.
They want the audience to always be second guessing. They don't want the relationship to be that clear cut. That's the entertainment value.
You forget that VI and the gang robbed Jayce's workshop in the first episode, AND she's from the Undercity, Markus could have put her in prison for BOTH