I own a 2020 Club 6MT. it’s incredible even in stock form. Get some thicker tires, bigger brakes, a header and exhaust, and your hood to go. It’s amazing. And still get almost 38mpg highway !
Car needs sways a lot more than it need brakes. Put on some performance pads and tires, and you'll show weaknesses in the suspension long before the brakes hit their limits.
Get a beefy front sway bar and stiffer springs or better yet coilovers. Stock club brembro brakes are perfectly fine for even 250HP supercharged ones if you have upgraded pads. Stock ND's are wayyyy too soft for track work. The suspension is the weak point.
@@ohplezz That is true. It does. I forgot to add in the original reply, *SWAY BARS* - I have a set of Flyin Miata front and rear adjustable sways (3 way) and they knocked off about 45-50 percent of the body roll, still on the OEM Bilstein suspension.
I had the Bilsteins revalved at FCM, still pretty soft springs but shorter shock body and coilover conversion. Good balance for double duty, but not a race car for sure
Meanwhile Andy showed up to TT Nats 21 in a CRX that fell in M4 along with my ND1... and he beat the everlinving snot out of everyone in class and set a 2:16 class lap record for that track (NCM). I was thrilled to see his McLaren roll in to Road Atlanta.
Great video , really like all the details about car. But I would have to suggest that NC is better track option because it cost 1/2 of ND . Any car you track on weekly basis will be in pretty bad shape in a year , so starting with half of the cost for same performance might be better option.
A 60,000 starting point isnt as good as a 0-20,000 mile starting point tho. Taking on a heavily abusedNC is arguably more work and unknown risk in comparison. That's a specific condition, but it would seem a lot of miatas are driven as they should be. Finding a very clean 9 year old car is hard.
I agree that ND is little bit lighter but in case of track use NC easily gets to same weight , handling of NC is very good and proven to be better than NA and NB I still didn't come across somebody in ND who could keep up but I think that was more to a driver than car . My whole point is in affordability since everything from engines , transmission, bearings will be replaced in first few years of tracking. All of those are much cheaper for NC and with starting price on top of it , looks like ND is too much money for same performance as NC .
Great video! I'm in the process of prepping an ND2 for S5 and am going this same basic route. One question - with the Flyin' Miata springs, did you use the bump stops they recommend (stock front, shorter rear) or did you use some of the shorter/harder options similar to what a lot of people use in CS?
@@AndyHollis33 Great, thanks for the reply! I tested this setup out at NCM over the weekend and it was fantastic! Very balanced and the Konis handled the curbs incredibly well.
@Casey Quillen. From the article linked - 949 Racing was the first firm to develop lightweight, track-oriented wheels for this application, offering its 6UL model in a 17x9-inch ET45 size at a weight of just 15.4 pounds. When wrapped in 245/40R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R tires, the combination offers maximum grip while just barely grazing the plastic fender liners occasionally. Key to this setup is dialing in about 5 degrees of caster in front, which centers the wheel in the wheel well.
Here is an update on our project ND Miata that might be helpful: grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/2019-nd-mx-5/maximizing-nd-chassis-miata-street-autocross-and-t/
Yep, that's the FIRM. It's our official test track, and only about 90 minutes from our headquarters. Amazing resource for testing and development, and a fun facility with some great people.
They are 235/40R17 but you can read some of the tire tests with more information here: grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/bridgeston-returns-200tw-scene/
Same, I've been trying to find a car that's as close to a Miata with 4 doors or 5 seats that's still cheap to run and reliable but the closest thing I could see was a BMW 1 series F20/21 but apparently they cost a lot to maintain and are unreliable. Also I'm not a fan of the idea of having a turbocharged engine just cause of long term reliability and mpg.
I really have to stop watching these videos as it makes me sad I drive a WRX. The WRX fits my needs better (a great dane can ride in the backseat), but a miata (or BRZ) suits my wants. Needs over wants...plus, the Mrs. Said no Miata even though I had (many years ago) a '88 323LX and she has a CX-5. As soon as Mazda comes out with a coupe/sedan/wagon based on the miata, I'll have to make due with the WRX (should have bought the STi)... 👍🏁
@@CarGroves Dude, this is a nerdy car video. He never mentioned anything about politics, but you did. You're pissing into the wind and complaining about the rain.
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I own a 2020 Club 6MT. it’s incredible even in stock form. Get some thicker tires, bigger brakes, a header and exhaust, and your hood to go. It’s amazing. And still get almost 38mpg highway !
Car needs sways a lot more than it need brakes. Put on some performance pads and tires, and you'll show weaknesses in the suspension long before the brakes hit their limits.
And sway bars and track oriented lowering springs or coil overs. Track alignment probably being the most important part of all
In stock form that car rocks and rolls all over the place. It's like driving a lazy boy recliner around the track.
Get a beefy front sway bar and stiffer springs or better yet coilovers. Stock club brembro brakes are perfectly fine for even 250HP supercharged ones if you have upgraded pads. Stock ND's are wayyyy too soft for track work. The suspension is the weak point.
@@ohplezz That is true. It does. I forgot to add in the original reply, *SWAY BARS* - I have a set of Flyin Miata front and rear adjustable sways (3 way) and they knocked off about 45-50 percent of the body roll, still on the OEM Bilstein suspension.
Please make some updates on this car and more videos! We need more ND content
hear hear!
You can see all the updates on our ND project car here: grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/2019-nd-mx-5/
I own the 17' RF with 27/16mm sway bars, coilovers, 16x9 wheels, ND Roadster sport exhaust and it's an absolute dream of a DD + canyon carver.
I had the Bilsteins revalved at FCM, still pretty soft springs but shorter shock body and coilover conversion. Good balance for double duty, but not a race car for sure
Great video! Very interested to know at what point the seat lowering brackets are needed for track work/ helmet wearing? I'm 5' 11"
You said you are running a front Progress sway bar and OEM or Megan Racing rear, but the video clearly showed Karcepts front and rear bars.
When he changed disciplines/classes he had to change sway bars. The Karcepts blade style aren't allowed.
I guess I'm kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to stream new movies online ?
@Byron Harlem Thank you, I went there and it seems like a nice service :D Appreciate it!
@Coen Louie you are welcome xD
"If you want to learn a little about this car..." In this short vid, I just had a condensed introduction to tracking/daily driving a MX5!! Thanks.
Great video. You mentioned you use a hybrid Hans. Mind sharing which make and model you use and would recommend? Is it Simpson hybrid sports? Thanks!
Would you recommend an ND RF for both track days and daily driver? I’ve heard there maybe issues getting on track due Rfs not keen to roll bars.
Meanwhile Andy showed up to TT Nats 21 in a CRX that fell in M4 along with my ND1... and he beat the everlinving snot out of everyone in class and set a 2:16 class lap record for that track (NCM). I was thrilled to see his McLaren roll in to Road Atlanta.
The answer is always CRX
Good video. Was wondering if you looked at changing the LSD to the OS Giken
Great video , really like all the details about car. But I would have to suggest that NC is better track option because it cost 1/2 of ND . Any car you track on weekly basis will be in pretty bad shape in a year , so starting with half of the cost for same performance might be better option.
I do not personally like the handling of the NC. It's also not as fast as an ND2. The latter makes more power and is lighter.
A 60,000 starting point isnt as good as a 0-20,000 mile starting point tho. Taking on a heavily abusedNC is arguably more work and unknown risk in comparison. That's a specific condition, but it would seem a lot of miatas are driven as they should be. Finding a very clean 9 year old car is hard.
I agree that ND is little bit lighter but in case of track use NC easily gets to same weight , handling of NC is very good and proven to be better than NA and NB I still didn't come across somebody in ND who could keep up but I think that was more to a driver than car .
My whole point is in affordability since everything from engines , transmission, bearings will be replaced in first few years of tracking. All of those are much cheaper for NC and with starting price on top of it , looks like ND is too much money for same performance as NC .
Awesome video .. thank you.
Glad you liked it!
You can lower it 1.75in without worrying about roll center correction?
Great video! I'm in the process of prepping an ND2 for S5 and am going this same basic route. One question - with the Flyin' Miata springs, did you use the bump stops they recommend (stock front, shorter rear) or did you use some of the shorter/harder options similar to what a lot of people use in CS?
I used the one FM supplied (shorter rears). The CS parts are band-aids for lack of proper springs/bars.
@@AndyHollis33 Great, thanks for the reply! I tested this setup out at NCM over the weekend and it was fantastic! Very balanced and the Konis handled the curbs incredibly well.
How much stiffer is it? Is it dailyable?
It’s great if you can fit in it.
Dream starter track car for me
It's really a forever car. Will be remembered as one of the last true sports cars.
Hey, I’ve got that hoodie!!
Andy what are your thoughts on flyin Miata sway bars vs roadsters sport sway bars from good win racing.
Great video!!!
What tire size are you using on the 9in wide wheels? The wider wheels are never covered in the online articles.
@Casey Quillen. From the article linked - 949 Racing was the first firm to develop lightweight, track-oriented wheels for this application, offering its 6UL model in a 17x9-inch ET45 size at a weight of just 15.4 pounds. When wrapped in 245/40R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R tires, the combination offers maximum grip while just barely grazing the plastic fender liners occasionally. Key to this setup is dialing in about 5 degrees of caster in front, which centers the wheel in the wheel well.
ND95
great video. What upgrades do you recommend if want to run in SCCA CS autocross class?
Here is an update on our project ND Miata that might be helpful: grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/2019-nd-mx-5/maximizing-nd-chassis-miata-street-autocross-and-t/
Awesome vid, very informative.
I see some track footage from The Firm. Are you running there? Great track in Starke, FL that few people know about.
Yep, that's the FIRM. It's our official test track, and only about 90 minutes from our headquarters. Amazing resource for testing and development, and a fun facility with some great people.
Hey whats the hybrid hans device you use?
www.simpsonraceproducts.com/products/simpson-hybrid-s
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Name of said head & neck restraint please?
It is a Simpson Racing Hybrid S head and neck restraint. www.simpsonraceproducts.com/products/simpson-hybrid-s
What year is this car?
It is a 2019 ND, we have all the project updates here if you would like to read more about it: grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/2019-nd-mx-5/
@@Grassrootsmotorsports Thanks for your response.
Will that suspension combo put you put of stock class in autox? Great video 👍
Yes. Street class doesn't allow spring kits or swapping out two sway bars (limit of 1 whether front or rear).
Who cares, build your car how you like
@@CarGrovesI agree, I am just trying to optimize for stock class which is what I want for now found out they do qualify 😀
@@aroundomaha aren't these replacement shocks with springs tho how did grassroots pull it off?
They're prob running in STR?
Tire size?
They are 235/40R17 but you can read some of the tire tests with more information here: grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/bridgeston-returns-200tw-scene/
@@Grassrootsmotorsports thanks for replay!
First. Hehe. Have a brz and wish I had a Miata 😅
Just go grab a miata.you Will love it.
@@willycorpuz9591 I’m heavily looking into NC’s since they’re the bargain right now
I bought a used 17' mx-5rf with 21,000 miles for 18,500$ love it. After that we bought a 2020 mazda3 for the wife🤙🤙🤙🇯🇵aloha!
0:36 tyres backward? lol
Those look like RT660's which can spin either direction.
I just wish there was a four door Miata (that isn't an E30 M3)
what's wrong with e36 M3? 🤔
Same, I've been trying to find a car that's as close to a Miata with 4 doors or 5 seats that's still cheap to run and reliable but the closest thing I could see was a BMW 1 series F20/21 but apparently they cost a lot to maintain and are unreliable. Also I'm not a fan of the idea of having a turbocharged engine just cause of long term reliability and mpg.
Tire size please…
245/40R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R
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Don’t be afraid of fresh air 😂
The mask is to help aero so he can get faster lap times 🤣🤣
He’s also wearing two gum shields for added safety
N95 mask?
The mask is killing me 😂
Meowouse ...
Who the hell wears a mask while filming a video
arrgh... m.i.a.t.a.
I really have to stop watching these videos as it makes me sad I drive a WRX. The WRX fits my needs better (a great dane can ride in the backseat), but a miata (or BRZ) suits my wants. Needs over wants...plus, the Mrs. Said no Miata even though I had (many years ago) a '88 323LX and she has a CX-5. As soon as Mazda comes out with a coupe/sedan/wagon based on the miata, I'll have to make due with the WRX (should have bought the STi)... 👍🏁
Outside in a mask? Really?
@@BoostedNDMiata «masks are like MAGA hats for democrats” 😂
Extremely cringe
🤣🤣🤣
Hek is wrong with him?
You have never had hay fever?
Lots of good info. Thanks...
Why the mask? 🤷🏻♂️
For the cameraman?
But Y
Imagine wearing a mask outside 😂
Take the mask off
Why u wearing a face nappy outdoors?
Great video, wearing a mask is super cringe though
Why is he wearing a mask?
Love the car , the mask 😷 is stupid
Why would you wear a mask with no one around you? Stick to cars and leave your politics at the door...
Possibly he's modeling a considerate behavior. Masks aren't political until someone makes it so.
@@fantasticgobble Wearing a mask in 2021 while doing an outdoor solo video is political.
@@CarGroves Dude, this is a nerdy car video. He never mentioned anything about politics, but you did. You're pissing into the wind and complaining about the rain.
No one around you? Uh, there's a cameraman right there. That's the secret sauce to getting someone on camera.
Also wearing a hoodie, clearly he supports BLM too, right? 🙄
Sayanara mask fool.
I can't take him serious with that stupid mask on.
Wearing a mask outside???
Cool car. Stupid mask.
take of your mask when you are outside, it does not help you