Simpsons Logical Fallacies: Red Herring
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I didn't notice before, but Freddy Krueger is in the crowd.
Hahahaha. Good catch.
Where?
Nevermind, found him
He’s under the guy in the top left with the blue shirt
So weird lol why?
There's a great bit in this episode where Chief Wiggam says "First we'll be rounding up your tired, then your poor, then your huddled masses yearning to breathe free".
Overall it's a dark episode. And yet another example of The Simpsons using a logical fallacy as a central plot point, to illustrate and educate the audience. Thanks for this video!
sounds reaaaaal familiar haha
So is red herring..."immigrants"
The lady sounds like AOC
@@jerryvandevort2366man this aged poorly
@@itsAmeOFP 😆
@@jerryvandevort2366she sounds more like MTG crying about crisis actors lol
Let the bears pay the bear tax. I pay the Homer tax.
That's home OWNER tax
My God, you all missed it. The 'bear patrol vs taxes' *_is_* the red herring to distract from the real issue:
... the children.
I am taking a Critical Thinking Class. I am already binge watching your videos as I think these are great!
your critical thinking skills are lacking
So, is nobody gonna talk about the Freddy Kruger cameo on the left?
Describes the US political system perfectly!
Oh hey, when Quimby first steps out of his office, there's a man in the crowd on the left who appears to be an homage to Freddy Krueger. Neat.
I m an indian nd this one is really familier 🤣🤣😏
Why?
@@utuberme1 caa and nrc
I love that in the Simpsons universe, the mayor of a small and insignificant town has the authority to do something that only the federal government has the authority on. This show is hilarious.
I guess some information on just how much the immigrants cost in city services would be in order.
Nice, thanks!!
You do not have a referendum to decide whether to uphold the law
Perhaps the referendum should've been between reducing the taxes and keeping the bear control?
thank you!!
but what if after they chase the immigrants out the taxes go down?
I guess it would then be a post hoc fallacy.
Those are exactly my thoughts as well. I don't think this is a proper red herring.
HOW DID DOCTOR HEBERT GET TRICKED SO EASILY?
Immigants, i knew it.
permission to use this video as an example on my school works
You are free to play the video for your class. If you wanted to repost the video on your own page, that would not be okay.
What would Helen do if some of these illegal immigrants were children?
think of them
It might not matter, whatever the issue everyone else is complaining about she always uses the cry: "won't sombody please think of the children?" It's almost like the only criticism she has, even if there are bigger problems going on
Here’s a video that hasn’t aged well in the last 4 years. Turns out the politician was right all along. Go figure.
Rishi Sunak would never try this
Poor choice for Red Hearing.
Accepting tens of millions of illegal alien migrants is extremely expensive to American tax payers. Restaurants and Agribusiness get the illegal alien's very cheap labor and pass on all the costs of education, subsidized housing, medical costs, policing, prisons to tax payers.
Does anyone think sub minimum wage illegal aliens pay for $30,000 + cost of a Chicago Public School education per student. Yeah, we know Chicago Public School education sucks with CTU Chicago Teachers Union insiders like our new mayor Brandon Johnson taking all the money for themselves then avoiding class room teaching like he did.
But, yeah - the American welfare state is extremely expensive to pay for illegal immigrants.
This Simpson example of a Red Hearing fallacy doesn't work.
To be fair, the people shouldn't have to pay taxes. Use profits to fund public things, but oh wait, that threatens the capitalist system.
Okay. Why don't you lead by example and either start a business with profits funding public things, or work a job and have your wages fund public things?
You don't see how it's theft?
How old are you?
@@tomr6955 It's not theft you moron. Or if it is, it shouldn't matter, capitalists suck. Also, who said it had to be from private enterprise? Nationalise the industry and do it like the Soviet Union or DPRK which managed to not have taxes or to have very low taxes(like the Soviet Union's case for instance.) I'm not "juvenile and delusional, idealistic, naive."
@@tomr6955 I don't want to start a business and big businesses should be taxed the most, if we are to have private enterprise at all. That would be fair.
@@tomr6955 "YOUR WAGES FUND PUBLIC THINGS", OH MY GOD, YOU DEFINED TAXATION! THAT'S WHAT TAXING CIVILIANS IS LIKE! A PORTION OF YOUR WAGES IS TAKEN TO FUND PUBLIC THINGS! There should be compensation for labour, ignoram'.
@@proletariennenaturiste I can see why you don't want to start a business. In your deluded world there are no incentives to start one. You also say people shouldn't have to pay taxes. Are you sure you're not from Springfield?
Again, how old are you? I am guessing under 15, or at least I hope so.
Trump’s rhetoric all the way
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Why he talk like Trump
Immigrants 🤣🤣🤣
This isn't a red herring because illegal immigrants are a huge financial burden on the state. They take billions from public programs; have no social security numbers and thus pay no taxes; increase crime in areas where they congregate, thereby necessitating further investment in police services while diminishing the property taxes the local government can charge as property values fall; they almost always vote in people who promise to give them more financial aid. The Mayor might've been using this as a red herring but, politically, it ain't.
How do they take billions from public programs? IF the don't have a SSN how are they receiving benefits?
They pay vat's, which add up to more than income taxes on low wage earners. MUCH more. Odds are most of these illegals would not even pay income tax as they don't earn enough.
Every statistic I have seen shows people in the country illegally commit less crime than people born in the country. Might be because drawing more attention to themselves increases the risk of deportation, but I don't know what the actual cause is, only that the result is less crime committed. This also debunks the lower property taxes.
And I don't understand what you mean by voting. Who is voting? The illegal immigrants? They can't vote. They won't be on the voter roll, and have nothing to demonstrate they should be added.
You are the perfect example of how this red herring works. Politicians cook up lies about how illegals make things worse. You swallow uit hook line and sinker, thereby ignoring the real reasons for your problems, which are caused by said politicians. I mean this is just a masterclass of an example. It almost makes me thing you did this as satire. Almost.
I would suggest you look up everything I told you. I'm some random person on the internet. You shouldn't believe me. But all of this is readily available to find. Studies. Laws. Enforcement. You could educate yourself if you choose to.
Sounds like somebody got distracted by the mayor.
Yeah this isn't about whether illegal immigration is a red herring. It's if the mayor in this situation is using the issue of illegal immigration as a red herring. The issue of the episode is they don't want to pay the bear tax but still want services to prevent bears from attacking them (a bear escaped from the zoo, creating a desire among the public to be protected from bear attacks). Whether or not, illegal immigration gets solved, the bear tax will still be there and they will be unhappy. The mayor will have to create a new red herring, maybe public education costs too much, to avoid dealing with eliminating the bear tax that doesn't need to exists because there's no bear problem. The Mayor just doesn't want to be the one to tell the public there is no bear problem and be politically harmed in the next election. Perception is reality and the citizens believe they need expensive anti bear patrols.
This video is not about the merits of supporting or not supporting illegal immigration. It's about a red herring. Any political issue, liberal or conservative can be used as a red herring. A red herring says nothing about the merits of the political issue, only that it's used to distract voters from the issue they care about.
@@jmhorange
Why should I care, Jodie?
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq. Because your comment isn't related to the video haha. You don't understand what a red herring is. This video isn't about the downsides of illegal immigration, whatever you think they are.
Dammit Trump
A trump move if ever I saw one.
L O friggen L. ALL POLITITIANS DO THIS! Get a grip on reality and get out of your Biden/Democrat cult.
Ohhh ... That didn't age well .... !!
Can you please help me understand how the fallacy is not false cause fallacy? I always get confused🥲🥲
Different fallacies can overlap. You certainly could interpret this clip as an example of false cause.
@@ColburnClassroom thanks!🙌