Hey tressteleg1 how do they control the points for this route? Who controls the traffic lights? Did you do this route when you were driving trams in the late 80's? How do passengers signal to get off the tram at certain stops? I have physical ridden on the light rail( trams ) in Sydney and this is a great view of a Melbourne tram in action.
@@frankbanner8572 You have me a little confused apparently asking about tramway points in a trains video, but just to be clear, signal boxes set all points for trains in conjunction with trackside non-automatic signals. As for the trams, the Z, A and B class originally had a 3 position knob, normally pointing straight ahead. A tram length or 2 before the junction there is a wire loop in the road and if the driver wished to go left or right, turned the knob in that direction passing over the loop. Leaving the knob alone sets points for straight. If a tram ahead was going another way, the points equipment remembered the new choice and changed points when the tram ahead moved off. In later trams that knob was replaced by a couple of coloured push buttons which worked just the same. Apparently some older trams now have these buttons. Most traffic lights are computer controlled from some city location. Loops in the road in some places tell traffic lights when a tram is there and insert or add a T light when the lights will change anyway. Trams don’t suddenly force lights to change, unlike Sydney, Gold Coast and Canberra. I don’t know what tram route you are referring to, but if it Collin’s st, yes I drove it on the 10 or 12. Melbourne passengers must pull a cord or press a button to get the tram to stop. You will hear a beep or buzz in some videos. Those other tramways stop at all stops
@@JuliansTrainsandGames I may well be mistaken, but I think there is only one choice of horns on the Comeng trains, and all the horns which make up the train’s whistle blow at the same time. They have different tonal pitches so they sound more melodious than today’s uninteresting horns. By the way, all the RVB horns have been removed because according to some bureaucrat, they were not loud enough!
1:06 This long beep happened once when the rear three car COMENG set I was riding in shut down due to a fault whilst in motion at low speed near Caulfield which triggered the whole train to stop. It was probably the doors releasing which triggered an emergency stop though after a few seconds the train was able to move again when the doors were closed! :)
The thing you describe is an air operated warning device called a ‘Stop Flag’ which pops up when train air pressure drops below about 80 PSI, maybe a bit less and maybe varies from train type to Train type. The fact that it was showing in the rear cab suggests to me that it indicates the rear can is not Cut In for operation at that time, the normal situation when the driver is at the other end.
I’m not a train driver, so I can’t do video of procedures in the cab. The driver who does these has to keep his identity hidden, so he can’t speak. Because some of my viewers are overseas, they may not speak English very well, but are likely to be able to read much better than they can Understand the spoken word. So that’s why this video is the way it is.
I was never officially a train driver anywhere but this video will show you the fun I had in a few places when times were slightly more relaxed. Sly Drives of Electric Trains. Melbourne, Sydney, London. th-cam.com/video/dR8gZ9tJeyI/w-d-xo.html
quick question about tram 164 why is the cab so small as i was exiting it i forgot to exit sideways and got stuck between the wall and the controller very tight fit
OK. I know where we are going now. One possibility is that when that tram class was built, less people were overweight. Maybe it was intended that drivers normally got out the door on the right. It’s also possible that originally these trams had slimmer controllers, and were later replaced by the present ones which are fatter. Anyway Yarra does not want Vintage trams running, so it does not matter any more, at least while they call the tune.
Each manufacturer had its own design of controller handle although overall they all followed the same general style. It’s possible that with some suppliers, the customer could choose between two or more different designs.
It appears not although the train number was rarely recorded and otherwise never shown so maybe it was captured on some occasion but it is now impossible to know.
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Love the cabin videos, they’re my favourite
Maybe we will see more in the future.
Very interesting video. The control room for a Comeng train. Thank you Tresseleg1😀💚
😊 Yes I guess it would be the control room.
Great vid. Would love to see a vid where you raise the panto etc . Thanks for posting!
That would be done in Train Preparation. I’m not so sure that would be too easy to capture on camera.
Could you still try to show the start up procedure
Would love to see it!
Hey tressteleg1 how do they control the points for this route? Who controls the traffic lights? Did you do this route when you were driving trams in the late 80's? How do passengers signal to get off the tram at certain stops? I have physical ridden on the light rail( trams ) in Sydney and this is a great view of a Melbourne tram in action.
@@frankbanner8572 You have me a little confused apparently asking about tramway points in a trains video, but just to be clear, signal boxes set all points for trains in conjunction with trackside non-automatic signals.
As for the trams, the Z, A and B class originally had a 3 position knob, normally pointing straight ahead. A tram length or 2 before the junction there is a wire loop in the road and if the driver wished to go left or right, turned the knob in that direction passing over the loop. Leaving the knob alone sets points for straight. If a tram ahead was going another way, the points equipment remembered the new choice and changed points when the tram ahead moved off. In later trams that knob was replaced by a couple of coloured push buttons which worked just the same. Apparently some older trams now have these buttons. Most traffic lights are computer controlled from some city location. Loops in the road in some places tell traffic lights when a tram is there and insert or add a T light when the lights will change anyway. Trams don’t suddenly force lights to change, unlike Sydney, Gold Coast and Canberra. I don’t know what tram route you are referring to, but if it Collin’s st, yes I drove it on the 10 or 12. Melbourne passengers must pull a cord or press a button to get the tram to stop. You will hear a beep or buzz in some videos. Those other tramways stop at all stops
Will never forget the sound of the train, before they’re going to get scrapped
😥
This set has already been scrapped, plus I did a recording in this same carriage once
Looks like you need to find that recording now 😊
I have a video of it already uploaded
The link?
Nice! Which one is the horn trigger
If you pause the video at the 0:03 mark, horn is the black knob on the right side of the left side instrument panel marked Horn. High. Low.
Ah thanks!
@@justanaturalcarguy4031 😊
What was the difference between the high and low horn with the RVB horn?
@@JuliansTrainsandGames I may well be mistaken, but I think there is only one choice of horns on the Comeng trains, and all the horns which make up the train’s whistle blow at the same time. They have different tonal pitches so they sound more melodious than today’s uninteresting horns. By the way, all the RVB horns have been removed because according to some bureaucrat, they were not loud enough!
1:06
This long beep happened once when the rear three car COMENG set I was riding in shut down due to a fault whilst in motion at low speed near Caulfield which triggered the whole train to stop. It was probably the doors releasing which triggered an emergency stop though after a few seconds the train was able to move again when the doors were closed! :)
Certainly a door not completely shut will disable a train.
I've always seen that red stop handle facing up always in the last carriage of a comeng train. What does that handle mean when its up?
The thing you describe is an air operated warning device called a ‘Stop Flag’ which pops up when train air pressure drops below about 80 PSI, maybe a bit less and maybe varies from train type to Train type. The fact that it was showing in the rear cab suggests to me that it indicates the rear can is not Cut In for operation at that time, the normal situation when the driver is at the other end.
This is cool. Where was it filmed?
No idea. Not written by the driver.
I am told from a very reliable inside source (a driver) that it was Mordialloc sidings.
@@aidanthomas2510Ok, cheers.
Thanks for sharing, do you know where the train was stabled when you recorded this?
I am not the driver, and no information about the location came with the video.
I am told from a very reliable inside source (a driver) that it was Mordialloc sidings.
any chance we could see a video of you explaining stuff in a comeng if possible also thanks for the vid tressteleg
I’m not a train driver, so I can’t do video of procedures in the cab. The driver who does these has to keep his identity hidden, so he can’t speak. Because some of my viewers are overseas, they may not speak English very well, but are likely to be able to read much better than they can Understand the spoken word. So that’s why this video is the way it is.
oh thats alright@@tressteleg1
can you show us you driving it but with the controls?
I was never officially a train driver anywhere but this video will show you the fun I had in a few places when times were slightly more relaxed.
Sly Drives of Electric Trains. Melbourne, Sydney, London.
th-cam.com/video/dR8gZ9tJeyI/w-d-xo.html
So good more please
Hopefully one day…
quick question about tram 164 why is the cab so small as i was exiting it i forgot to exit sideways and got stuck between the wall and the controller very tight fit
Which tram 164? A Melbourne Z3 or what?
@@tressteleg1 S164 the old one
OK. I know where we are going now. One possibility is that when that tram class was built, less people were overweight. Maybe it was intended that drivers normally got out the door on the right. It’s also possible that originally these trams had slimmer controllers, and were later replaced by the present ones which are fatter. Anyway Yarra does not want Vintage trams running, so it does not matter any more, at least while they call the tune.
i find the gec? style throttle lever unusual but interesting design
Each manufacturer had its own design of controller handle although overall they all followed the same general style. It’s possible that with some suppliers, the customer could choose between two or more different designs.
i’ve seen it on some pics of Seoul Metro train cabs too
@@anindrapratama I would be fairly certain that the same company built the control gear for both railways.
The set has been scrapped already in June 2022
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Do you happen to have any cab view videos from 374M on any of the lines? As it’s one of my fav stage 1 alstoms! :)
It appears not although the train number was rarely recorded and otherwise never shown so maybe it was captured on some occasion but it is now impossible to know.
This set has now been withdrawn and scrapped
@@victoriarailwayvideos4876 Yes, a few other people have told me the same.