It is such a pleasure to work on the Arrma 3s/4s lineup. A lot of thought went into the engineering of this product . With special attention taken into consideration for the person doing the service/maintenance
@@HardcoreRC yeah I agree the 3s cars are superb and so easily upgradeable , easy to wrench on , and have a great following because of the price point . I would love to try 1/5th scale but price wise its out of reach and it's a whole different eco system . I wonder when they will release a new 3s line .
Just put a 4s hobbywing ESC and surpass hobby 3665 3100kv motor in my 3s Typhon. Also put a 20tooth pinion gear in. I need to get a metal spur gear. Just waiting on all of the snow to melt here in Ohio.
I have the Firma 150 ESC in mine on stock gearing and stock motor. The only other thing that I have changed other than the ESC was the tires. I currently have some belted Duratrax Bandito MT tires on it and am currently clocking in at 62 MPH on 4S. as you were saying the tires have seemed to be the biggest limitation against higher speeds.
Hello. Thank you for the helpful information. We would appreciate it if you can tell us about the purchase path of pinion gear, the size and size of the teeth.
@@HardcoreRC I like it not tough at all tho first big hit chassis split and driveshaft snapped. Back order on parts sucks but a little epoxy and I’m back to bashing till parts get in.
@@taw411 Wow im surprised at that, was it really cold ? we have put all out 3s cars through hell and they have been the toughest cars we have, as you can see from a number of our videos. Have to remember plastic because brittle in the cold
@@HardcoreRC ah I'm glad you mentioned colder Temps and plastic thank you for that..... I will keep that in mind when playing with my new big rock in cold new England this year
Thanks - going to be wild that's for sure. The Big Rock and Typhon are basically the same car, just different bodies and wheels, the Typhon has the 17mm hexes already so easier to put different tires on
Thanks for the info, really want the M2C ones as think they give a bit more width, i have used our typhon 3s ones for the time being though, saved me having to buy others until the M2C ones come in
Cant wait for the run on the hoons. . . or you could do belted tires and keep it all terrain looking and wider stance. . . i wish the wheelie bar adjusted down to help keep the front end down on the road. . new sub but ur channel is pretty sweet man keep it up
Stock diffs currently - if they blow then will swap out for the Arrma metal diffs, but as just speed running the diffs shouldn't really be under much stress
That's a decent shakedown of the setup. The lower kv makes it almost impossible to get speed. I did get more with a 27t but not much. With the Hoons you will do better.
Hey where did get red battery straps looks killer with skinz too, I used the 4s shocks on mine , I believe the team corralky shocks will work too and aluminum
The battery straps came with the DXF lipos i bought. as not really bashing this never swapped the shocks out as have the Ebay big bore shocks on the typhon and Granite
@@HardcoreRC ok thanks I wish shipping wasn'tcrazy you guys have alot nice aftermarketsupport we do too but alot times on backorder. , I used those on my granite also , they were very stiff if we talking about same ones , I ended up bending the shafts , ik v2 you have the shocks are better , im not sure ill bash mine either atleast far as sending just thought they looked performed better and were cheap , I like the wing also looks good 😉. The hoons tires may work good for your 100mph goal , I lovevthose wheels I use them on lot cars now just for fun . Goodluck
75 should be easy. Drop the front add speed tires. Put a rear wing on the front with an air splitter should get you up 85 to 90. That last 10 mph will be interesting.
Got my typhon 3s with spectrum 130a and stock motor on 4s up to 103.5mph last year just ordered mamba monster x 6s and got a new motor im hoping to get up in the triple digits a fair bit 😀 thinking about posting a video about but not to sure about it
Hoons will slow it down as they are smaller... its hard to get near 100mph. I'm attempting it with my traxxas rally, had 70mph on 4s 2600kv and 27t pinion, need a dry day for my 6s run as it was spinning up at 67 last time when it was damp lol.
70mph on the Traxxas rally is very good. 100mph is a big challenge that is for sure, we know that from just trying to get our Limitless there, have a plan though, you are right the hoons will mean more gearing is needed, but have a plan 😂
Thanks - cant let all my secrets out 😂 pretty sure i can get it to the high 80's - but have a feeling aero and handling will be the biggest challenge above 80mph, hence doing it in stages
@@paulclancy2404 I'm not doing the wing but it does add some protection I bet. It does look like a fun mod. I may do it later on but for now, I'm doing my aero a little differently.
@@HardcoreRC thanks man, the splitter was somewhat of an upset but at the same time I was trying to speed run with 25mph winds so it wasn't the best conditions for testing. Anything over 75 and the car would lift 😅. Send me a message on Facebook if you ever need help with anything
@@OmniMan_Racing Thanks Dude, haver a feeling front downforce is going to be the key at the higher speeds. You crazy man doing speed runs in 25 mph winds 😂
This is cool!! My friend that helps me video has one we might try. I just built the 1st twin motor Wltoys 124019, gearing it waaaaay up to use the torque of both motors. Thanks, new here!
@@HardcoreRC It wasn't bad, there's a short look at it, and a teaser run I got 68.5 on gps, I'm not sure when I forgot to record, oh well next time. Lol
It was a stock spur size, just the upgraded metal one, not running stock anymore though - went with a spool set up, everything we have done to get to 105mph has been shown in the videos progress of the project
A quick suggestion, after you put the 17 mm hexes on - try the stock talion wheels/tires. Less sidewall = more stability. Larger diameter - higher top speed potential. Plus you all have them in the shop and probably won’t use em for much else.
Thanks - had been thinking about the Talion wheels, not sure how they will work with air getting under the car though, needs to be down nice and low for the higher speeds, but its an option i haven't dismissed
Thanks, it might do, but just like sharing what we are doing, and the projects we come up with, with or without the channel would still be doing this :)
How do you mean by slanted ? do you mean by pointing in or out ? then yes that is called toe in or two out. Toe out helps turning and toe in helps straight line stability
im on a 24 tooth pinion currently - with the CRCU motor mount it looks like it can go up to around 27 tooth. Not sure this gearing will get us to 100mph though, likely need to swap it out for a spool
@@HardcoreRC ok thank you I was going to roll with a 23t thats what I purchased so far so my setup is the Spektrum 150a esc paired up with a hobbystar 3665 2100kv and going to run a 23t I already also have the gpm steal cv's so shall see what happens also going to install the hot racing yoke
@@HardcoreRC don't know but I am sure its going to be pretty fast i tried a 4s run and wasted the rear input gear to the rear diff that broke. I got abut half throttle and boom no go but before it broke it did hit 57mph on the speed meter
More room and slower throttle pour would have likely got you into the mid to high 60's... 😎.. i've seen those lwb 3s chassis do over 100.. so I'm sure you will get there..👍
I do know people that have put this system in the 3s cars for bashing, does make it very powerfull. Kv is just a way to measure the motors power, take the kv and multiply by the volts and that will tell you the RPM is will pull, so a 2200kv motor on 6s x 25.2v ( being6x4.2v) would have an RPM of 55,440rpm. The lower the Kv the more torque. The bigger the car the lower the Kv shoould be really
@@HardcoreRC ah amazing thanks for that great explanation thinking of going down that route as I think I’m weight in saying that if I fitted that combo I could still run it at 3 and 4s if I wanted ? Thanks for your help much appreciate
@@HardcoreRC also quick question pinion gears are the centre holes the same size ? So if I did the upgrade would I still be buying the 0.8 mod pinions ? Cheers
@@jmpdrpaintlessdentremovalj9959 You could still run it 3s or 4s yes, but bear in mind that it will be running less rpm as its a lower kv than the stock motor
That's a good question as was a couple of year ago now, im sure i say what we used in the end in one of the vidoes we did for the car. easier now as you get get 3rd part spools from places like hotracing rather than having to make it
You need HR aluminum yoke & diff case along with the heli pinion &ring gear. All that plastic under the bulk head are definitely not up to that task sorry to say. At those speeds you don't need a full 4 wheel lockup,although it will make for some great video! We can do without, just success!!!
Thanks - have my eye on the Arrma metal gears - easier to get and cheaper for us in the UK as well, but will keep going and see what happens first, my biggest concern is the plastic center drive shaft. 4 wheel lockup would be some epic footage 😂
@@HardcoreRC No problem! that center shaft? The HR yokes help keep your gears( unnecessary wear!)aligned much better than the plastic poopoo💩💩! Their are companies that make and sell aluminum rods. With different inner shapes! Just finding will be fun. I will see what can be found. I'd like to do the same with my outcast 4s. Just put the max 8 w/stock 2400 and new bearings. V3 Long wheel base chassis and bulkhead s coming soon.
@@rcjunkie260 Yeah the plastic gears are a concern, but as we don't really use this car i don't want to spend a load if it can be helped, but then once i set myself a target i also don't like to give up. Outcast is a good stating point, and witht he long wheel base chassis will handle much better
@@HardcoreRC the power difference from stock esc to the max 8 is big. I'm glad I didn't waste money on the 2200kv combo Stock 2400kv is fine. Money spent adds up too quick in this hobby! Long wheelbase frame and new bulkheads/shock tower soon. My fans made it to to the U.S Friday.
@@rcjunkie260 Yes the Max8 is a big step up in power. Whenever i order stuff it always seem to come out to over £100 even if i only really need a £10 part 😂
You will likely struggle to get to 100mph on the 2100kv, unless you change the body to a more streamline one, you will deffo need a Max6 in any event, found the Max8 would cut out
Thanks, i did think that as well and though i might need to get the 2600kv motor, but then i saw something else that allowed a far higher gear ratio for this motor 😎
Apologies - video was supposed to go live Sunday night - hadn't finished putting it all together - added in comments now and here is the link: customrcupgrades.com/product/arrma-3s-and-4s-motor-mount/
@@whistlinlipo Thanks and your welcome, sorry again for the missing link, Callum messaged me and said is the video supposed to be live - i was like no, oh well :)
@@paulclancy2404 Best to reach out and ask Lee at Custom RC Upgrades, i know he ships to the USA quite often. The other option you have is that M2C have just released a motor mount for the 3s cars
You will have to either strap the tires or get some belted tires. Hot racing diff gears and metal spur gear. 20 tooth pinion should get 100mph on 4 or 6s.
Yes stock diffs, i may need to go to the metal ones, we shall see. Correct on metal spur currently, but that will likely come out for something else in stage 3 or 4 = cant say to much 😂
@@HardcoreRC i wonder if you dremel motor mount to fit a bigger pinions, I just did that with mini t, hmm you need Taller wheels that aren't too heavy , maybe unglue stock wheels gorilla tape insides well oh what if we sprayed expanding insulation foam, it would make wheel solid with out being heavy 🤔
17mm Hexes are coming - been waiting for the M2C ones to arrive. Needed to see how the motor and ESC behaved first though, need to do in stages to see how everything works together 👍
Just made me think, someone else had an issue around that speed, up until then it was okish then started to get unstable. As you say the Hoons will be more stable. All the best with it, looking forward to the next step
@@Harvey600 55mph wasnt an issue, blown that speed out the water already 😎 but being as light as the car is it does get very very light - aero will be our biggest battle
that gearing guna have to be mad to hit a 100mph ....and to get 57 mph on big boy wheels that good ..i am at 48mph on 2s on 144001 on stock gears just waiting on a new tp motor to run lol
@@HardcoreRC i hope the plan works on the gearing ;) haha yeah aero always a problem on like monster tuck styles lol ...i want to get a big rock they look fun as hell to bash .....i aint sure on the 144001 speed i want hit 60mph inwitch will try in summer months its only 60amp hobbywing with 3900kv motor ( waiting on a new 2s 80c 2200mah overlander lipo for the 144001 .i am stuck on what to do i have max10 esc on way with the tp motor not sure to stick in the wltoys 124019 or the 144001 catch 22 lol
@@andyroo8uk685 Thanks, wish i could help you but i don't know anything about eh wltoys cars currently, did see one today and it looked very good, tiny as well. Might need to start adding them to our collection
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It is such a pleasure to work on the Arrma 3s/4s lineup. A lot of thought went into the engineering of this product . With special attention taken into consideration for the person doing the service/maintenance
Very true, i think the Arrms 3s range are there best cars, not they need to make a 1/5th scale version 😂
@@HardcoreRC yeah I agree the 3s cars are superb and so easily upgradeable , easy to wrench on , and have a great following because of the price point .
I would love to try 1/5th scale but price wise its out of reach and it's a whole different eco system .
I wonder when they will release a new 3s line .
Just put a 4s hobbywing ESC and surpass hobby 3665 3100kv motor in my 3s Typhon. Also put a 20tooth pinion gear in. I need to get a metal spur gear. Just waiting on all of the snow to melt here in Ohio.
Very nice, that will be a little rocket - hope the snow clears up soon for you
Love my big rock, very stable, can't wait to see you hit 100 mph.
They are great cars, not so stable at these speeds though 😂😎
I like the back ground, try to find a crowd of people looking at what you are doing 🤣. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride
Thanks 👍
Loving this! Great video!
Cant wait to see it hit 100!
Epic.
Have a good weekend!
🤝🤝🤝🏎🏎🏎💪💪☝️
Thanks Dude, this could be our first car to hit 100mph, not going to be easy, but i have a plan 👍
Have a good weekend as well
Cool speed run with the big rock
Thanks, gets crazy at the higher speeds
That swappable background is dope bro.
Hehe thanks - does look good, but adds a whole nother level to editing
Those tires balloon on 3s couldn’t imagine them on 6 lol! I built a 4s one and the tires were the first thing I upgraded.
Yep, just needed to see what it could do, stages 2, 3 and 4 done with Hoons on
Awesome!
Big rock was already quick for its size.
Indeed, but we are making it stupid quick 😂
As they say in space balls ludicrous speed
First👍very good edit,hope your all well 🙂like the Background
First again - wow you are so quick 👍 if only that was a real tropical background 😂
@@HardcoreRC who edited this video very good job
@@Emily_xx5 Thanks - i edited this one, need to step up my game to keep up with the boys editing 😂
@@HardcoreRC 😂🤣it’s a start you all are so great at editing
That looks hard work keeping it straight with those tyres behaving the way they are 😬 fair play progress has been made 👌
It was crazy, tires ballooning like crazy, but was a good shake down, now for stage 2 😂
Been looking forward to this video, that's one crazy Big Rock 😂
Thanks - more on the way - stage two is ready to run 😂
I put a 6 s system in one of these. The chassis are not set up to get close to 100. But, no gears broke?! Very strong drivetrain!
Thanks - need to do a bit of work, but feel fairly confident can get it to 100mph
@@HardcoreRC I believe in you! You can do it!
@@HardcoreRC that will be cool to see!
@@SpeedSyko Thanks
Arrma Big Rock'et .. that was swift mate 😎 impressed 👏
Thanks - was happy with the shake down. Now for the next stage 😂
Absolutely looking forward to see this build the hoons will definitely help
Thanks - hoons went on today :) running stage 2 set up tomorrow
Nice first run!! Your gonna have me wanting to pull my big rock apart and throw a big block in it. Lol 👊👊👍👍
Thanks - lol go on do it 😂
Mine has event been shipped yet and I already wanna mod it
I have the Firma 150 ESC in mine on stock gearing and stock motor. The only other thing that I have changed other than the ESC was the tires. I currently have some belted Duratrax Bandito MT tires on it and am currently clocking in at 62 MPH on 4S. as you were saying the tires have seemed to be the biggest limitation against higher speeds.
62mph is good 👍 tires are the first issue to cross, then comes the aerodynamics 😂
Hello. Thank you for the helpful information. We would appreciate it if you can tell us about the purchase path of pinion gear, the size and size of the teeth.
At the stage the pinion gear was 24 tooth mod 0.8
Oh this is great! Looking forward to watching this project progress 😊👍
Thanks - stage two completed today - need to edit it now
instablaster...
Just bought one today going to enjoy this series
Hope you enjoy it! great little truck, tough as hell as well
@@HardcoreRC I like it not tough at all tho first big hit chassis split and driveshaft snapped. Back order on parts sucks but a little epoxy and I’m back to bashing till parts get in.
@@taw411 Wow im surprised at that, was it really cold ? we have put all out 3s cars through hell and they have been the toughest cars we have, as you can see from a number of our videos. Have to remember plastic because brittle in the cold
It was cool lol 50 degrees Fahrenheit
@@HardcoreRC ah I'm glad you mentioned colder Temps and plastic thank you for that..... I will keep that in mind when playing with my new big rock in cold new England this year
Awesome run bro...8s power👑
Kip it up mate
Thanks - think 8s may be over doing it for the big rock 😂
Looking forward to following this project. As an alrounder rc which do you think is best the big rock or Typhon?
Thanks - going to be wild that's for sure. The Big Rock and Typhon are basically the same car, just different bodies and wheels, the Typhon has the 17mm hexes already so easier to put different tires on
Love it I suggest ya lower it and stiffen the shocks though Can't wait to see more on this mate 🔥👍✌️
Thanks, yep lowering and stiffening is on the plan list as stage 3 👍
@@HardcoreRC Cool can't wait to see it rip 🔥👍✌️
If you need 17mm hexs look at the Traxxas udr 17mm hex adapter or the Arrma 4s 17mm hex. The udr ones don’t fit the 4s hubs tho.
Thanks for the info, really want the M2C ones as think they give a bit more width, i have used our typhon 3s ones for the time being though, saved me having to buy others until the M2C ones come in
Cant wait for the run on the hoons. . . or you could do belted tires and keep it all terrain looking and wider stance. . . i wish the wheelie bar adjusted down to help keep the front end down on the road. . new sub but ur channel is pretty sweet man keep it up
Thanks - did Hoons run today - was surprised how it went, didnt have any wheelie issues either, but boy is it squirrely 😂 thanks for the sub 👍
I hope u put hot racing diffs in it I just tore my 4s Kraton up running it on 6s
Stock diffs currently - if they blow then will swap out for the Arrma metal diffs, but as just speed running the diffs shouldn't really be under much stress
Enter it in my challenge for February!
Will have a look, is that the start stop one ?
On the speed runs would it be better to use a belted tire ?
It would and we did in a later video, this is just a video as we progress through the changes to get the car to go over 100mph
That's a decent shakedown of the setup. The lower kv makes it almost impossible to get speed. I did get more with a 27t but not much. With the Hoons you will do better.
Thanks - lover KV does hurt, but then putting on 6s brings it all back up, like having a 4,400 3s motor 😂😂 the tires were just crazy though.
Hey where did get red battery straps looks killer with skinz too, I used the 4s shocks on mine , I believe the team corralky shocks will work too and aluminum
The battery straps came with the DXF lipos i bought. as not really bashing this never swapped the shocks out as have the Ebay big bore shocks on the typhon and Granite
@@HardcoreRC ok thanks I wish shipping wasn'tcrazy you guys have alot nice aftermarketsupport we do too but alot times on backorder. , I used those on my granite also , they were very stiff if we talking about same ones , I ended up bending the shafts , ik v2 you have the shocks are better , im not sure ill bash mine either atleast far as sending just thought they looked performed better and were cheap , I like the wing also looks good 😉. The hoons tires may work good for your 100mph goal , I lovevthose wheels I use them on lot cars now just for fun . Goodluck
Have you tried braided fishing line on the stock tires?
on other cars yes, but not on this car, we put proper speed street tires on now and have been to 105mph - check out the videos on the project
OMG that's unbelievable!!
Hehe , thanks - stage 2 very soon 👍
75 should be easy. Drop the front add speed tires. Put a rear wing on the front with an air splitter should get you up 85 to 90. That last 10 mph will be interesting.
Thanks for the tips, yeah its going to be the last 10mph that's the challenge
Looks like a fun build, be interesting to see how well it does in the coming videos 👍🏻
Thanks - going to be a wild ride 👍
Exiting build! Question: does that wing make it lift up and wheely easier?
Thanks, didn't seem to make it lift easier, im likely going to need some front aero though
@@HardcoreRC looking forward to more!, have a big rock myself so this have a special place for me 😆👍
Got my typhon 3s with spectrum 130a and stock motor on 4s up to 103.5mph last year just ordered mamba monster x 6s and got a new motor im hoping to get up in the triple digits a fair bit 😀 thinking about posting a video about but not to sure about it
Nice speed on the Typhon 👍👍 although Typhon body would really help, this BRCC is like a brick 😂😂
@@HardcoreRC right on brotha! Lmao, I picked a protoform hyper ss body an ma it looks killer on it
@@haydnholder7090 I need to get me one of those :)
@@HardcoreRC youuu knoowww ittt 🤣
Dope project💪
Hehe thanks 👍 I'm excited, going to be interesting to see how it all goes that's for sure
Hoons will slow it down as they are smaller... its hard to get near 100mph. I'm attempting it with my traxxas rally, had 70mph on 4s 2600kv and 27t pinion, need a dry day for my 6s run as it was spinning up at 67 last time when it was damp lol.
70mph on the Traxxas rally is very good. 100mph is a big challenge that is for sure, we know that from just trying to get our Limitless there, have a plan though, you are right the hoons will mean more gearing is needed, but have a plan 😂
To ' make it work', tone your workbench colur down ... Darker foreground will compensate for the green screen fringe.
Thanks for the tips 👍👍
I think you should try to get hoons and a spool. Should help bump thats 6s set up from maybe 60mph and add 10 mph more or 15.
Hoons already fitted, check pic on community page 👍 and 38 tooth spool is on the cards, already have the parts for it 😎😎
NIce speed runs. What are you going to do to get to the 100MPH barrier? Lower the suspension, road tires, and maybe something for the aerodynamics?
Thanks - cant let all my secrets out 😂 pretty sure i can get it to the high 80's - but have a feeling aero and handling will be the biggest challenge above 80mph, hence doing it in stages
@@HardcoreRC yes Sir. Step by step and learn as you go.
@@airguns_rc Its the only way to go, if you don't you will never know what what is wrong with the build.
@@HardcoreRC agreed
I'm shooting for 75 mph myself. If I can break 65 I'll be happy though.
Hey Jessica we have do that wing huh , I started messing with brcc too ,its easiest to clean after snow bash
@@paulclancy2404 I'm not doing the wing but it does add some protection I bet. It does look like a fun mod. I may do it later on but for now, I'm doing my aero a little differently.
@@rcpd3157 nice I thought about getting 3s typhon making a hybrid but probably won't unless jennys has it I probably won't either
You team kev or Aaron ps i have no life lol 😆
I drive outcast 8s and its dog next to brcc you think high end be faster but with kv to can size dosen't work that way
Good luck man. It's not easy. My granite is a triple digit car I just haven't had the right conditions to beat my old PB
Thanks - wow you did get your Granite to over 100mph well done, might have to come to you for some advise if my plan doesnt work out 😂
Ah was ready subbed to you and been chatting on Facebook - love the front splitter you have put on the granite
@@HardcoreRC thanks man, the splitter was somewhat of an upset but at the same time I was trying to speed run with 25mph winds so it wasn't the best conditions for testing. Anything over 75 and the car would lift 😅. Send me a message on Facebook if you ever need help with anything
@@OmniMan_Racing Thanks Dude, haver a feeling front downforce is going to be the key at the higher speeds.
You crazy man doing speed runs in 25 mph winds 😂
Where did you get the metal gear and slipper from?
Arrma make the part, or you can just buy the metal spur gear and fit to existing slipper: www.arrma-rc.com/part/ARA310948
This is cool!! My friend that helps me video has one we might try. I just built the 1st twin motor Wltoys 124019, gearing it waaaaay up to use the torque of both motors. Thanks, new here!
Give it a go, wow a twin motor Wltoys 124019, that must have a been a squeeze getting both motors in, Welcome to our channel 👍
@@HardcoreRC It wasn't bad, there's a short look at it, and a teaser run I got 68.5 on gps, I'm not sure when I forgot to record, oh well next time. Lol
What spur gear was on thst slipper assembly? Definitely didn't look to be the stock .57
It was a stock spur size, just the upgraded metal one, not running stock anymore though - went with a spool set up, everything we have done to get to 105mph has been shown in the videos progress of the project
@@HardcoreRC thanks for the reply. Im gonna try and find the vid with the nonstock setup. Thanks again
A quick suggestion, after you put the 17 mm hexes on - try the stock talion wheels/tires. Less sidewall = more stability. Larger diameter - higher top speed potential. Plus you all have them in the shop and probably won’t use em for much else.
Thanks - had been thinking about the Talion wheels, not sure how they will work with air getting under the car though, needs to be down nice and low for the higher speeds, but its an option i haven't dismissed
So how fast did you get the Big rock up to?
Currently 94mph so know we have to go faster then 104mph now 😂😂
This should make your subscribers build up mate..
Thanks, it might do, but just like sharing what we are doing, and the projects we come up with, with or without the channel would still be doing this :)
Where did you get that wing? Thanks in advance
This is how you fit the wing, parts needed are all in the description: th-cam.com/video/Xf_mK0D9GZ4/w-d-xo.html
Hi is it normal for the from wheel to be slightly slanted?
How do you mean by slanted ? do you mean by pointing in or out ? then yes that is called toe in or two out. Toe out helps turning and toe in helps straight line stability
@@HardcoreRC yeh I mean that, how do u adjust this please ?
Looking forward to seeing this develop! Are you worried about the diffs on 6s?
Ofcourse lol alot of stuff can go wrong. The drive shaft in the center can be warped with that power lol
I am wondering if the diffs can take it, i hope they do, otherwise i will just have to buy the metal gears.
Indeed a lot can go wrong, centre drive shaft is also a concern, but there is only one way to find out 😎
What pinion size did you go with i am putting a 3665 2100kv motor in mine and just unsure what size pinion to use
im on a 24 tooth pinion currently - with the CRCU motor mount it looks like it can go up to around 27 tooth. Not sure this gearing will get us to 100mph though, likely need to swap it out for a spool
@@HardcoreRC ok thank you I was going to roll with a 23t thats what I purchased so far so my setup is the Spektrum 150a esc paired up with a hobbystar 3665 2100kv and going to run a 23t I already also have the gpm steal cv's so shall see what happens also going to install the hot racing yoke
@@ihde2000 Sounds good, what speed you hoping to get ?
@@HardcoreRC don't know but I am sure its going to be pretty fast i tried a 4s run and wasted the rear input gear to the rear diff that broke. I got abut half throttle and boom no go but before it broke it did hit 57mph on the speed meter
More room and slower throttle pour would have likely got you into the mid to high 60's... 😎.. i've seen those lwb 3s chassis do over 100.. so I'm sure you will get there..👍
Thanks - i have a plan as they say, want to go steady to see what needs changing if anything as we go through the plan increasing the speed
Would this motor and esc upgrade still be a good choice if running off road? New to the extent hobby and the Kv confuses me a little
I do know people that have put this system in the 3s cars for bashing, does make it very powerfull. Kv is just a way to measure the motors power, take the kv and multiply by the volts and that will tell you the RPM is will pull, so a 2200kv motor on 6s x 25.2v ( being6x4.2v) would have an RPM of 55,440rpm.
The lower the Kv the more torque.
The bigger the car the lower the Kv shoould be really
@@HardcoreRC ah amazing thanks for that great explanation thinking of going down that route as I think I’m weight in saying that if I fitted that combo I could still run it at 3 and 4s if I wanted ? Thanks for your help much appreciate
@@HardcoreRC also quick question pinion gears are the centre holes the same size ? So if I did the upgrade would I still be buying the 0.8 mod pinions ? Cheers
@@jmpdrpaintlessdentremovalj9959 as long as you got mod 0.8 with a 5mm hole then use you would still use the mod 0.8 pinions
@@jmpdrpaintlessdentremovalj9959 You could still run it 3s or 4s yes, but bear in mind that it will be running less rpm as its a lower kv than the stock motor
What size spur and pinion?
That's a good question as was a couple of year ago now, im sure i say what we used in the end in one of the vidoes we did for the car. easier now as you get get 3rd part spools from places like hotracing rather than having to make it
You need HR aluminum yoke & diff case along with the heli pinion &ring gear. All that plastic under the bulk head are definitely not up to that task sorry to say. At those speeds you don't need a full 4 wheel lockup,although it will make for some great video! We can do without, just success!!!
Thanks - have my eye on the Arrma metal gears - easier to get and cheaper for us in the UK as well, but will keep going and see what happens first, my biggest concern is the plastic center drive shaft.
4 wheel lockup would be some epic footage 😂
@@HardcoreRC No problem! that center shaft? The HR yokes help keep your gears( unnecessary wear!)aligned much better than the plastic poopoo💩💩! Their are companies that make and sell aluminum rods. With different inner shapes! Just finding will be fun. I will see what can be found. I'd like to do the same with my outcast 4s. Just put the max 8 w/stock 2400 and new bearings. V3 Long wheel base chassis and bulkhead s coming soon.
@@rcjunkie260 Yeah the plastic gears are a concern, but as we don't really use this car i don't want to spend a load if it can be helped, but then once i set myself a target i also don't like to give up.
Outcast is a good stating point, and witht he long wheel base chassis will handle much better
@@HardcoreRC the power difference from stock esc to the max 8 is big. I'm glad I didn't waste money on the 2200kv combo
Stock 2400kv is fine. Money spent adds up too quick in this hobby! Long wheelbase frame and new bulkheads/shock tower soon. My fans made it to to the U.S Friday.
@@rcjunkie260 Yes the Max8 is a big step up in power. Whenever i order stuff it always seem to come out to over £100 even if i only really need a £10 part 😂
Can I use a 2100 kv motor to get close to 100mph
You will likely struggle to get to 100mph on the 2100kv, unless you change the body to a more streamline one, you will deffo need a Max6 in any event, found the Max8 would cut out
@@HardcoreRC thanks for the info ..are the 2100kv Motors are good for speed runs
@@rccorcoles7082 Depends on the car and the number of cells being used really
@@HardcoreRC I have a Orion 2100kv with a 120a esc in a 2wd slash but it's 2 slow
Nice runs, you will probably struggle to get to 100mph with that motor though, might have to try a higher KV.
Thanks, i did think that as well and though i might need to get the 2600kv motor, but then i saw something else that allowed a far higher gear ratio for this motor 😎
Sooo no link for the motor mount?
Apologies - video was supposed to go live Sunday night - hadn't finished putting it all together - added in comments now and here is the link: customrcupgrades.com/product/arrma-3s-and-4s-motor-mount/
@@HardcoreRC thank you! Great video as always
You think it practical for us order parts or shipping going be ridiculous, do you guys order from USA 🇺🇸 🤔
@@whistlinlipo Thanks and your welcome, sorry again for the missing link, Callum messaged me and said is the video supposed to be live - i was like no, oh well :)
@@paulclancy2404 Best to reach out and ask Lee at Custom RC Upgrades, i know he ships to the USA quite often.
The other option you have is that M2C have just released a motor mount for the 3s cars
You will have to either strap the tires or get some belted tires. Hot racing diff gears and metal spur gear. 20 tooth pinion should get 100mph on 4 or 6s.
Yep I think be ok with stock diffs though , I think he did metal spur
Yes stock diffs, i may need to go to the metal ones, we shall see. Correct on metal spur currently, but that will likely come out for something else in stage 3 or 4 = cant say to much 😂
Got some Hoons for stage two. Metal spur currently, but with the smaller hoons its unlikely i can gear enough to get to 100mph, so have another plan
@@HardcoreRC oh sorry I didn't read your response yet definitely hoons you know what your doing 😉
@@HardcoreRC i wonder if you dremel motor mount to fit a bigger pinions, I just did that with mini t, hmm you need Taller wheels that aren't too heavy , maybe unglue stock wheels gorilla tape insides well oh what if we sprayed expanding insulation foam, it would make wheel solid with out being heavy 🤔
I would put 17 mm hexes on it too for sure with 6s power going to the wheels
Me too I want to add to mine but once we start upgrading going takke away durability
17mm Hexes are coming - been waiting for the M2C ones to arrive. Needed to see how the motor and ESC behaved first though, need to do in stages to see how everything works together 👍
Nice , im going order then too , that max 8 system what I used in the exb kraton, crazy 😜
@@paulclancy2404 LOL - power is not going to be issue on this build that's for sure 😂
I say no way it gets to 100 mph. I’ll be interested to see that’s for sure
Hehe, watch this space 😂 its not going to be easy that's for sure, have a feeling 90mph is achievable - its that last 10mph that will be the challenge
I could use those stock parts haha sucker going be a beast
Thanks - pure beast :)
1st thoughts gents is its just gonna be too light....... interesting tho 🚀
That could be a problem - but i have a plan 😂😂
Might be worth testing without the wing incase the down force kicks in too much around 55ish
Thanks, wing hasnt been an issue yet, we been faster than 55 already 😎😎
Just made me think, someone else had an issue around that speed, up until then it was okish then started to get unstable.
As you say the Hoons will be more stable.
All the best with it, looking forward to the next step
@@Harvey600 55mph wasnt an issue, blown that speed out the water already 😎 but being as light as the car is it does get very very light - aero will be our biggest battle
that gearing guna have to be mad to hit a 100mph ....and to get 57 mph on big boy wheels that good ..i am at 48mph on 2s on 144001 on stock gears just waiting on a new tp motor to run lol
Yeah gearing is an issue, but hopefully have a plan for it, then aero will be an issue 😂 48mph on 2s for the 144001 is good 👍 what are you targeting ?
@@HardcoreRC i hope the plan works on the gearing ;) haha yeah aero always a problem on like monster tuck styles lol ...i want to get a big rock they look fun as hell to bash .....i aint sure on the 144001 speed i want hit 60mph inwitch will try in summer months its only 60amp hobbywing with 3900kv motor ( waiting on a new 2s 80c 2200mah overlander lipo for the 144001 .i am stuck on what to do i have max10 esc on way with the tp motor not sure to stick in the wltoys 124019 or the 144001 catch 22 lol
but overall i want hit 85mph in ethia the 144001 or 124019 on stock gears before going mod1
@@andyroo8uk685 Thanks, wish i could help you but i don't know anything about eh wltoys cars currently, did see one today and it looked very good, tiny as well.
Might need to start adding them to our collection
@@andyroo8uk685 Hope you hit your 85mph target as well, we are coming back into the good weather for speed runs - yay 👍
I hit 60mph on stock tires... they a hand full
Stock tires are crazy at high speeds that's for sure 😂 well done for hitting 60mph
Fallowing I want to join the 100mph club
Thank you - we hit 105mph with this project - now have it on 8s and just need to find somewhere to run it, should be good for at least 110mph
That curb clip it didnt break what
Nope didnt break, the 3s Arrma line up are the toughest trucks i have seen
Little Ripper
It sure it - mental little thing with this power 😂
Seems like aerodynamics are limiting you here. So much air is getting underneath and lifting it up at speed..
Yep, aero will be an issue, it was more the tires ballooning so bad it was hard to control, need to get it nice and low 👍
@@HardcoreRC I've seen someone use a front splitter that's 3d printed for an arrma kraton that hit 100mph
@@tavvs4102 Thanks for the information - i have some Kydex commons to hoping to be able to make something for the front if its needed
@@HardcoreRC no problem good luck
@@tavvs4102 Thanks👍
If i can catch you I will put you in jail to go so fast on Makadam ! Its a Crime !!!!!!! :)
Hehe, had the Big Rock to 105mph now - once the weather improves the next target s 110mph as running it 8s now 😲
Xmaxx doesn't care about no big rock lol
Its sure doesnt,
To much power, now i know to not mess with it and leave it stock.
Hehe - its got an 8s system in it now 😂
@@HardcoreRC 🗑
That's pretty rad! I just posted a video of a good mod to keep your turnbuckles nice and tight, even after the pivot balls west out. Check it out and lemme know what ya think?
Thanks - i will go check it out 👍