The Ego is a Self-Playing Game - Shunyamurti Teaching
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Description: Psychoanalysis was developed by a neurotic ego and designed to enable other neurotic egos to function more productively despite their inherent internal conflicts. But psychosis was another matter. It is a condition that could not be fully theorized or manipulated by psychoanalytic technique, and so the bizarre mode of suffering of a psychotic person was repressed to justify its limited focus and non-existent success rate.
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Psychosis from my experience is closer to terror.. And that is certainly suffering.
The mind cannot bear to be confused.
But once I went inside and saw myself; began to understand Creation and therefore reality, the force of psychosis became seen and understood and the fear and terror completely disappeared. Completely answered by the Reality within us. Sometimes I feel it return but I go inside again and it loses all of its power to deceive and the fear vanishes without a trace.. psychosis has been turned into a blessing. I pray all others find their way quickly and with ease. X
Beautifully put. ❤
My favorite quote is: “The psychotic downs in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight” -Joseph Campbell
I like that
Sat Yoga has open eyes on the maladies that our pathological ego produces… This materialistic occidental era has permitted to look deeply at our different soul’s illnesses.We can heal from these perversities by returning to the good sense of the Divine Light.
Thanks and much love to shunyamurti and everyone at sat yoga 🧘♂️
I never thought that I would hear Shunyamurti say “Mary Poppins” 😊
It's kinda like posting information on facebook(meta) and watching all the other partnered information collectors and consumers recycle it and try to resume playing a game with the user that wasnt trying to play a game to begin with. The psychological profile of that integrated war machine is basically outside the understanding of even the most seasoned professionals in psychoanalysis. That thing is scary and even the terminator would probably say something like(i,m sorry John Conner but I won't be back)lol
The Freudian Id, Ego and Superego have their meanings and teachings, but have a pretty substantial flaw that undermines the nature of self, flaws that are well-interpreted and explained in this video
The spirit of R.D Laing approves of this message ;)
Shunyamurti's reply:
And this spirit hails the great spirit of R.D. Laing!
Very cool insights!
The founders of psychoanalysis were in need of help themselves, apparently.
Yes, all conflict happens within the relative forms of manifested energy. Self reflection itself is a subtle form of conflict within our own mind that bangs around our neurons to try and find a point. Creating greater and greater points to be alive is part of the beauty of existence in my eyes, as long as we are always free from whatever points we draw ❤🙏🏼
Psychoanalysis is a waste of time and money. Only meditation and connection to God heals the mind and soul.
I’ve been able to function as a member of society and have a clean slate without connecting to a God. Meditation and self-reflection have played a massive part in my life, as well as spending time with friends and families, and even strangers. So many thoughts and feelings and perspectives, it’s so easy to identify who and what you are by finding comparison of things that you like about people. It also helps seeing negative things about others and find that some are repeated in you.
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Thank you for sharing 🙏
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More I live d more I realize d power of humor.. a good laugh is worth equal of not more than a meeting with a shrink.😝
Not negating d value of seeing a good psychotherapist but just saying sometimes watching a show like Seinfeld can help one get out of negative states of mind...
Form is elusive at times
2 month's of jungian psychotherapy, dream exploration and shadow work, did more for me than 15 years of meditation, yoga, Kundalini awakening, and satsang's... We are complex, simplicity of spiritual teachings are atractive but usualy can not solve anything... To say to some human being with history of severe trauma and deep destructive unconciouss pattern of thinking, feeling and behaviour:" You are pure Conciousness, surpass your ego, it is only your mind just meditate" is like throwing glas of water into forrest fire... Spiritual teachers are not qulified to even go into that realm, but many of them do that anyway...My only advice to all spiritual seeker's is to take care of all basic psychological trash they caring before entering into spiritual domain... Otherwise, everything will come crushing down... 😵💫
Very interesting talk
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Binary psychoanalysis
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Oh lord man. Very interesting, you're a genius friend 🧡 E
I sit here listening to this video on my psych unit with a very psychotic patient right now. 2020 almost broke me, being able to see through the illusion. Now i just wonder why i didnt break but my patients have.
If you do not identify with the ego/self and dismiss the shadow work that has to be done = spiritual bypassing? how do you evolve as a soul? Or if we look at things in a form of soul evolution does that mean we still view ourselves as separate from consciousness from source?
11:55 to 12,10: ''Psychoanalysis became frozen with only 4 options of: hysteria, obsession, pervert, or psychosis.''
Wow! What an awful list of possible options to get diagnosed with. I don't get why Freud gained so much respect. I like Carl Jung.
Analysis Paralysis.
Whew-(i) am glad just listening to silence. The pay off of game theory must be worth 60% divorce rates. I'd say in the 5th yoaga once desperation is felt by the inflated mental masking of insecurity a realized one may be in disbelief. Even today the vibrational mismatch while engaging or enmeshing dilutes. So who is dreaming and are there others to be concerned with? This absent presence awareness loves dramatic play.
The personality...
Thankyou. Are the 'Games People Play' by Eric Berne included in the games spoken about in this video?
Of course....
That why i didnt have a voice.
What do you think what should I do???
Suffragettes and Emmeline Pankhurst would be preferable to Mary poppins possibly ..
I understand the game, but not the analysis 😂😂😂
As I suffered to heal to survive to forgive to repeat the same cycle??..now you tell me what should I do???....apparently my life is just a "GAME OVER" FLAWLESS VICTORY!
It takes one tree to make a million matches right your with me on this??...all it takes is ONE match to burn down a millions of tree...1
Liars!!!!
To say that any ego doesn't suffer is to reveal that one doesn't understand that the underpinning of the ego is suffering. 💜
13:52 "So the point I want to get to is that all theoretical constructs are games played by those who want to feed off the energy that can be gained by playing the game with others if they win..."
Remember what he said!!..."TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED ONE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...Therefore in physical realm and in the spiritual realm "WHO FAILED WHO"??????YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS!!!!!
Dr.Bach ,know thyself ,is a great read .A yruly enlightened man 🙏
Is that a rainstorm in the background? It sounds lovely.
Transcending the ego is a level ing up of all conceptual frameworks to a more meta metagame. The transitioner may stay in a state of superposition for an indefinite amount of time before it forms a new identity.
A masterclass in psychology - and ego-ology?
“Psychotics do not suffer”-as someone who’s experienced psychosis, how absurd!
Brilliant video.
What do you mean?
The psychotic drowns in the same waters that the mystic swims in delight
Game!?...seriously??..
Yup soul creates an ego ( character ) so it can find itself again as god
Thank you ❤
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Do we just let go of the ego mind. Then effortlessly do whatever God does with our bodily form (paradoxically even if tasks require effort it's effortless because no one is doing anything we just let God take over). No mental 'files', just be. Completely let go. Then every action is effortless spontaneous and absolutely executed perfectly according to God's plan. That's what the little brain I see is thinking as it wonders how to live life.
Then we understand everything and realise ourselves and see the play we created is perfect and just for us to experience everything infinite ways and have the bliss of realising ourself infinite time. The only reason there is existence/consciousness is just for our own perfect eternal infinite enjoyment.
interesting concept, thank you Shunyamurti 🤍♥️🙏🏽
Does Shunyamurti believe there is a place for certain types of psychotherapy such as Internal Family Systems and Somatic Experiencing? Thanks 🙏🏻
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@@satyogainstitute thanks for your reply 🙏🏻
@@robster7012 Shunyamurti's reply: Yes, there is a place for everything that appears in the Dream Field. Psychotherapy often functions as a portal to the higher levels of the spiritual ascent.
@@satyogainstitute appreciate his response 🙏🏻
@@robster7012 Though the Ego is an illusive identity for as long as one is heavily identified with it (- which everyone is for quite some longer time....😋) whatever heals, lessens the burden, the suffering & reconciles with one's identification can surely be helpful...
The release from this identification is at best a gradual process over quite some time, it can have pretty catastrophic consequences to enforce & "speed up" the process too much too fast ( as with hallucinogenic drugs, Kundalini Awakening, lonesome long retreats from people etc.).
The deep process needs time, patience and cultivating some Kindness towards oneself.....and therapy can certainly assist one with it, may even be required at a certain stage in the process....- especially when the therapist has some own deeper spiritual Awareness/Experience.
amacing words 💎❤️
thank you
McLuhan describes it as "A self-fool, filling profits, see."