Sharpening a serrated knife - Spyderco PM2 fully serrated
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- This video is a review of a Spyderco PM2 fully serrated in S30V. The video has discussion on serrations and their use in knives. The video also documents sharpening the knife.
Probably the best video I’ve seen for sharpening serrated knives.
Great video. I drank the "no reason for a serrated knife" kool-aid for a long time until I decided to grab a fully serrated Spyderco. I quickly learned that I was missing out the entire time. Serrated blades are ideal for my daily needs. Takes longer to sharpen, but it's worth it to me. Thanks for the content.
Ok. Getting a serrated knife to whittle hair, that's impressive!
You must have the patience of a saint.
When cutting against a surface, the serrated cutting edge is protected by the serration tips. Additionally, in a given blade length, the serrated blade has a longer cutting edge. Both contribute to extending the cutting performance. That is why serrated steak knives, despite having a relatively soft steel, survives running across a porcelain plate.
You really have the most informative and enjoyable videos on modern steels. I have purchased a number of Spyderco exclusives and sprint runs due to your videos. I hope Spyderco and others have noticed and supply you with items for future reviews...
Randall Pugh it's nice of you to say. I try to make the videos interesting. No companies supply me with anything, but that's fine. I'm glad we have companies that offer such great products... Imagine if we didn't.
Just when I thought you had fully impressed me, you go and do something like this. Incredible work
49Giants thank you.
God damn man, you have by far the best sharpening channel on TH-cam. I would literally pay you to come teach me. I am by no means a novice at sharpening, but you make my edges look like a butter knife.I have no idea how you don't have more subscribers, keep it up man everyone has a lot to learn from you.
bobmellon thanks brother.
When you actually use serrated blades, you realize one benefit that is never mentioned -- safety. There are some cutting procedures where you may not have a stable, safe foundation or be in too confined space, to say, use the tip of blade to make a starting piercing cut safely. It can easily slip and do you damage for example. With serrated blades you can create that piercing effect easily, blade down with normal motion. It's hard to explain but trust me they have great safety utility
I'm no professional when it comes to the knife industry, but I enjoy watching videos and reviews on them. I'm more of a firearm fanatic that a knife fanatic but I do want to throw out there I enjoy your videos very much. I love the way you start them off, classic lol. I love serrated spyderco knives. Had two matriarchs, a Tasman salt, an endura, and now a para 2 fully serrated and I love it. Keep your videos coming brother. You're providing great information. Thank you.
Tim Risse thank you. I'm glad you enjoy the channel.
I've been working on freezer trawlers for twenty years, and when it comes to fixing the nets which are in big part, plastic nylon, dynema and more, a straight edge is useless.
The nets are dragged on the ocean floor so when we need to do some work they are embedded with salt, sand and all kinds of crud that kills any straight edge in a matter of minutes.
Back in the day I used ask the engineers to give me used metal saw blades, and I'd turn them into knifes, go figure ;).
Nowadays we are using the victorinox serrated apple knife on deck and dispose of it when the teeth are gone.
That cheap little sucker would make a fool out of a maxamet blade in my environment.
So yeah, serrations work for those who depend on cutting as a part of the everyday life.
Thanks.
Excellent video and information. I learned alot.
I use a chopstick loaded with compound. I also use it for every day "strop" in the kitchen, use is like a honing rod, 20 seconds and it is done.
Ingenuity!
Amazing video. Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge on this. Never see anyone do this before. And I’ll definitely be giving it a shot tomorrow. You and big brown both do some my favorite videos.
Vinny Nero thanks. Big Brown has some great content. I always look forward to his posts.
Beautiful work!
Thank you.
Thanks for showing the way.
Awesome research man, thank you for sharing it. Not many people get to see things like serrations doing work at their optimal condition.
Maxwell Super thank you, brother.
very sharp indeed. impressive!
Psyamok Ajkml thank you.
Thanks Michael. Great video!
Jeffrey Weber thank you.
Amazing job. Wish I had the patience.
Outstanding. I enjoy your videos.
Mark Graham I’m glad you like the channel.
Another good vid. Nicely done. I'm so glad that Spyderco made another Para with full serrations. I used to have a Para 1 with serrations and I miss it. Gonna have to grab this one.
David Lowry they did good with it.
Very informative video, as usual. thx for sharing, cheers
Halfmoon67 thank you. I'm glad you liked it.
Nice discussion of serrations and how to sharpen them.
You use a very intricate process that probably keeps the points of the serrations extremely sharp, which is awesome. I don't have the patience for a procedure like yours. I generally just grind the blank side to raise a burr inside the serrations and then remove the burr from the serrated side with a leather belt loaded with compound.
I applaud your patience, technique, and results.
Good video, Thanks. Lot of good information. I'm still a beginner at sharpening and have avoided serrated knives for that reason. This is the best how to vid I've seen on getting them sharp. Now I've got to give it a try.
It's really not too hard once you've had a push in the right direction and seen the sharpening rods that can be applied to the job.
Bravo Michael 👏 that's some good sharpening right there! I need to buy myself some sharpening rods now...
Caleb Green the DMT diamond rods are not too expensive, and I got by with just using the coarse and X-fine.
Michael Christy it's awesome they go all the way up the grits on their diamond rods. I'm running out of serrated edged knives, I just literally a week or two ago ground off some serrations on a knife and made it plain edged. I never thought of using dmt rods before this.. I'm gonna have to give serrations another try..
Awesome! Crazy sharp 🍻
excellent video, learning a lot from your videos. ....thks
That's great. The knife community is all about communication and supporting one another. I'm glad my videos are helpful.
Wow you have definitely changed my opinions on serrations from being worthless to somtimes there good still prefer plain edges but impressive
u do a fine job sir
Thank you.
my Spyderco/Byrd Cara Cara 2, partially serrated was one of my most used, helpful edc/work knives I ever owned. So miss it and wish I never broke it. I pushed it hard and got a good 18 months out of that sub $25 blade. Great informative vid... thanx brody!!!
In regards to that Byrd, it sounds like you got great value out of it. Are you planning on picking up another serrated model to replace it?
if i could ever find something fully serrated in zdp-189 or cts-xhp from spyderco, most definately. Good luck on that huh? lol
Mos Matic Spyderco has done fully serrated ZDP in the past. I've read that H1 out performs every other Steel when it's serrated. I would think this would be because it hardens into the 60's when they're putting the serrations into the blade. I haven't tested it myself, so I can't say from experience.
I prefer a fine edge just for ease of sharpening, but I’ve always felt like serrated edges will keep cutting in a lot of media through the saw action.
Hi mate,
Do you ever use sanding belts to sharpen really dull dead knives?
Do you use any machinery?
Cheers
I'm planning to buy a fully serrated Endura in K390, that hard steel must hold the serrations for ages!
Great video! Agree completely. Don't use em much but I understand the purpose of it. A few questions:
Does the second bevel created on the blank side make it a better cutter in general?
Does the second bevel increase the blade sharpness life?
Matthew Yuen no, the second bevel being created on the blank side will raise the overall angle of the edge, so it will decrease cutting life of the edge, but increase the stability of the serrations. The main reason I did it was to make sharpening the knife faster. The angle is so low even with the slight angle change, I doubt I'll notice the decrease in edge holding, but I'll certainly notice the sharpening become faster. The increase to stability will probably be minimal as well.
Michael Christy thanks so much! Really appreciate the vids!
Just look at restaurant steak knives. They’re serrated because dull af serrations is better than a dull af plain edge
excellent video! I wrastled up a diamond rod n ceramic rod for big scallop n use d the sharpmaker corners stones for the small scallops (I thought that fit well....but I needed to strop n using a loaded dowel rod never crossed my mind ! fantastic! thank you!
Yeah, the Sharpmaker stones fit well in the small serrations... I should have thought of that for the video and mentioned it.
Glad you liked the video.
+Michael Christy love the video ! I ve been looking forward to it since I saw you splitting hairs in the group .....cannot wait to load up a dowel rod n strop the serrations as soon as you mentioned that the light bulb over my head lit up brightly ! lolol
Lol, I figured that for sharpeners, as soon as i said "dowel rod" people would immediately know where I was going with it.
Another tip... Try Poplar wood. Hard woods don't hold the abrasives as well.
Really interesting video. Do you fully resharpen your knives each time, or do you also rely on frequent stropping to maintain an edge? Compared to a plain edge, it seems time consuming to fully resharpen a serrated edge.
It depends on the steel and knife as to weather I always fully sharpen, but I usually do. You get better performance out of the steel fully sharpening.
It's not too time consuming for the serrated. It only take 15 or 20 seconds with the diamond rods to raise a burr on each serration. It might take longer then a plain edge, but it's not too bad.
Any suggestions for my matriarch 2 with the curves blade and full serrations in VG10? I have a hell of a time sharpening that thing.
Rob Kahla that would be tricky. If you're willing to work the primary grind on the blank side, it would make that part of the job easier. You could probably work a relief angle into the edge, but I would really need to get one in hand to see what I would do with it. It's a model I've thought about picking up, but right now it's not in the budget.
Funny you mention the Spydie sharpener, I bought one from a guy at a small county fair in 1984. Later I found out it was Sal who sold it to me, just a funny story, and I still have that kit, the plastic holder bag is long gone but I still have the holder and stones...
Randall Kelley that's cool that it was Sal. Nice that you still have the kit as well.
I used to hate serrated knives because I thought they were harder to sharpen. I decided to buy one and try it out. I opted for a cheap Byrd just in case I hated it. Well......Now I think I own almost every serrated Spyderco. Lol. H1 really benefits from serrations. My favorite EDC is a fully serrated Salt 2.
Robert Williams H1 does really well serrated.
@@michaelchristy4982 I'm loving it so far. I kinda want a fully serrated Endura now.
Robert Williams I heard that Sal said that H1 has better performance serrated then any other steel they’ve tested.
Enjoyed the video. In the video you were talking about removing the burr completely. Since watching and studying your videos on sharpening I do as close as I can the way you do free hand . But I still now and then get a very small wire edge on my blade. And have to go back and clean it. I do it by raising my blade angle a little higher and restroping the blade. Do you have a tip what I might be doing wrong. After I clean it I can cut free hang hair with know problem. Thank you and keep them coming as you can. Hope all have a blessed day.
If raising the angle is working for you, that good. I always keep the angle the same, but like I said, if you're getting good results, go with it.
What steels are you having an issue with the wire edge? Some steels are more temperamental then others.
Also, what abrasives are you using on your strops?
Michael Christy I have this to mostly with s35vn sometimes zdp189 . I use the white paste I have seen you use. And 5 micron 3 1/2 then 1 diamond spray then 0.50 then 1 quarter then 1tenth .
Randy Parker that's surprising that it happens with S35VN and ZDP. I've found low chromium steels can sometimes have very stubborn burrs. What might be happening is that you're accidentally raising the angle on a couple of strokes during the main sharpening. If you do that, the increased angle will prevent your strops from taking off the burr at the original angle. The burr sits out of reach from the strops unless you increase your angle again. If I run into this, I start over from the beginning. It's an annoying mistake to make. Maybe that's what is happening.
Have you tried M390 or 204p? They have extremely easy burr management and they get extremely sharp. They're both really great steels.
Good video .
little woody thank you.
I don't care much for serrations but Spydero has about the best pattern for an EDC that I have seen. Nice job on it!
Rob Babcock thank you.
awesome video brother where can I pick up a serrated paramilitary I haven't seen one yet you've inspired me to get better and better thanks for your info
I believe Knifeworks, BladeHQ, or Knife Center should have them. They'just came out recently.
I'm glad you liked the video.
*2:04** how it looks when you try to roll your first cigarette or joint.*
Grizzly Country LOL!
Hallo Michael, Thank you for this episode.
Have you ever tried a Rockstead?
fluoling I have not tried Rockstead. I would like to get one, but they're a little too expensive for me.
Hello Michael, I am the same. I wondered if I instead of four 200 dollars knives, own one 1000 dollar Rockstead. Actually i use the Higo and the Chi.I have realized, videos showing a Rocky in use do not be out there.Maybe i should change this. And i am sure,these are the right tools coming in your hands.
fluoling it really depends on what you want. There are knives you buy because they're really nice, like the Slysz Bowie, even though the performance isn't the best in the world, and then there are knives you buy just for the performance, like an FRN wit Maxamet steel. It's just a matter of what you want from the knife. At the end of the day, what's most important is that you're happy with what you choose.
If you can do Rockstead videos, go for it.
Hey how do you like the DMT rod? I would like to sharpen serrations but don't know what i really need. I thought that Lansky Blademedic would be enough but not sure.
A lil late to the party though excellent vid along with thoughts on serrated vs. non-serrated knives🤙
As you stated, both non-serrated and serrated knives have their place, depending on one's usage.
No place on earth does the timeless cliche, "one's tone of certainty farrrrrrr exceeds their actual knowledge" apply more than in the virtual world in general and the knife hobby/genre in particular.
That said, I do agree that Spyderco makes a top shelf serrated knife though I also really like Cold Steel's serrations, especially on tthe Spartan.
Again, excellent video👊
Continued Success🍻
RP
i love serrations but i wish more combo blade would come with the serrations on the tip portion
what brand of diamond sprays do you use? great videos.
ibanez7627 I use Hand American for 1, .5, and .25 micron. Everything below .25 micron are sprays from Ken Schwartz.
Spyderco serrated edges have double the cutting surface, and will cut flesh and fabric more deeply during a slash. The fact that it lasts longer is due to the additional edge length. The piercing ability is due to the toothlike penetration. The only reason why I don't have many is the pain in the ass to sharpen them. Thanks so much for your demonstrations. They help a lot.
Marc Rhodes I think the increased cutting life of serrated blades is due to more complex things then more cutting edge. For one thing, the edge bevels are cut at a lower angle, which will increase cutting life on it’s own. Additionally, I think the edge breaks down differently on a serrated edge, as opposed to a plain (polished) edge. I think these factors have a bigger impact then the added edge length.
Where can I get the ceramics? Never sharpened a fully serrated and would like to start! Thanks for the great info
Euclides Netto on Amazon, search "Spyderco ceramic file set". It comes right up.
Michael Christy nice, thank you!
Doyoy think a toothy edge lasts longer than a mirrored edge when cutting cardboard /plastic? woild love to hear your opinion..
Gamma Rayburst I think it depends on the steel and how you're doing the cutting.
I agree.
I think the grove is for fishhooks other companies have things like that In there products it’s great that it fits the small serrations though
On your strops that are below .25 are you using the cbn emulsion or is it also diamond?
crf450r bullet david it's diamond.
Thanks. I just can't seem to find them from kens corner I think it's called.
crf450r bullet david I deal with Ken directly.
Hi, could you please have some suggestion regarding which are the top 3 steel as you feel?
革命 BU2AH it depends on what you mean by top 3.
For toughness I like 3V. For corrosion resistance I like H1. For edge holding I like 10V.
Sometimes I like a particular steel for a given model or a type of knife, but you would have to be more specific for that kind of answer.
Thanks your reply and sorry, I did not give you the direction.
again. Top 3 for hunting, combat and survival?
革命 BU2AH if I'm putting hunting, combat, survival into one group, which I would, I would probably say Cru-Wear, 3V, and maybe O1.
This is like a Cliff Stamp video
are the spyderco sharpeners the best for beginners? what would you recommend for beginners who primarily use 3"-6" fixed blades? Any price range
Mos Matic it depends on how you want to sharpen. For instance, stone in hand or laying the stone on a table in front of you, etc. Also, what steels? If you want really high results, the steel makes a difference on what to use.
could you do a vid plz on the different options and strategies?
Mos Matic look over the channel. There's a lot of examples already there for you to see.
Thank you. Like them or not, you'll probably need to touch up a serrated edge eventually. Good tips here.
late to the party again I'm a non serrated guy but I do use at work does real good cutting as a key hole saw for inspection plates and rubber hose for what I do it blows the plain edge away..and I hate saying it but the truth..that's what it was doing for me so there is plenty of places in the knife world for serrations I own around 100 knive and have 1 full serrated and 4 half....lol...loving catching up on these vids brother.......excellent work.
Blades of Steel thanks man.
Super pro👏👍
I had the PM1, but never carried it, I don't have much use for Spydie edges.
Randall Kelley they're not for everyone.
Sir what the best steel for serrations you prefer?
So... you getting the full serrated 52100 PM2?
Chuck Nunface no. Although 52100 may do very good serrated.
6:25 Sharpening part.
Still a great video. Do you still take the same approach to sharpening serrations or has your method changed at all? Thanks for the content. Great channel.
AZ0960440 on a regular basis in the summer when I’m doing yard work every weekend, I’ll usually sharpen the flat side as a would S30V normally, and the other side with just diamond rods and using the corner of a semi soft leather strop in each serration. I’ve found that leaves the edge hair whittling, and it’s pretty quick.
@@michaelchristy4982 That's all I need since I beat on my knives and I don't really like taking time to sharpen. Thanks for replying!
4 minutes till 5. If your a fisherman have a serrated h1, or a few and one str8 edge at least. Lc200n or h1? 🤔 in a saltwater fishing situation?
My greatest knife is a diving knife it is serrated and it's saved my life twice and lasted twice as long as any straight knife.
I prefer a plain edge. But if you are trying to cut wet rope I found it works much better.
Thank you, I tried to respond to the email, but it failed to send. much appreciated.
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For sailing and diving, I prefer a serrated blades, for everyday carry its plain edge
Fantastic. An actual hair whittling sharp serrated knife. The beautiful thing about serrations is that the cutting surface area is vastly increased without lengthening the blade. Its like a cheat code.
compare a serrated big dexter russell versus a plain dexter blade when cutting big nasty fish....serrated always wins hands down. Thinking of getting a Spyderco FB31SYL Enuff Salt Lightweight Yellow H1 Sheepfoot Fixed Blade Knife, do I need that Spyderco it???? DANG, don't want a serrated Enuff salt H1, if its all that to sharpen!
Capt Dave's Sport Fishing I sharpen serrated S30V to hair whittling in about 10-15 minutes.
saw that hair split. I like serrated, but don't think I have the tools to sharpen say a spyderco. just have a spyderco edgemaker and golden stone. In cutlery, commercial fish, meat, is for certain tasks. So, as with my fish processing. After thinking about it, I'd never have a serrated blade as a EDC. Daily duty? no need. More of a manufacture of pocket knives, non-commercial work blades as a ''see what we can do''.....not that JoeWeekend really needs it.
I find that serrated knives can always easily cut bread even if they haven’t been sharpened ever since buying where as a smooth edge needs to be reasonably sharp to get through the hard crust without much pressure.
Edit serrated lol.
I will carry serrated for SD
Heres my blanket statement: If you plan on cutting people, with clothes on, serrations are very risky. Because the angle of attack is so very important to knife retention with a serrated blade your strikes are limited and must be considered. I believe that is an unnecessary problem. This is much less important with very sharp knives but it worth considering when you decide what knife to carry.
Fuh Q I think you’re not giving the cutting power of serrations enough credit. Maybe with very dull serrations this could be an issue, but I doubt it would be a problem with good serrations. I see your logic, but don’t agree.
@@michaelchristy4982 I admit that a knife as sharp as yours will do much better than the average serrated blade but as a" blanket statement" and "in general" it's a real thing. I respect your opinion sir but I would request you verify my statement with the "tactical guy" of your choice. I'm only assuming your not trained yourself and mean no disrespect by my assumptions. I very much enjoy your content and appreciate your response.
No one said anything about cutting human flesh. Most of us just want to use knives as tools and wannabe commandos gotta ruin it for the rest of us
@@fuhq5121 This is a flawed way of thinking...get your sharpest plain edge knife and a piece of thick rope and see which knife cuts through the rope the most times before becoming useless....in all actuality i doubt you keep a knife in your pocket that is strictly used only for self defense situations and nothing else...my contention is that the rope represents a heavy leather jacket and a thick sweater underneath that....if your plain edge has seen any use at all that day it stands no chance of slicing through cowhide and thick wool, as it will just sponge up...the serrated knife on the other hand will bite its way right through
Hi
All knives are serrated
Each Day weak argument.
@@michaelchristy4982 jk
“No serrated edge” is COMPLETE and utter bullshit. For fishing, a serrated edge cuts high strength braided line so much better than a plain edge. You can be much more precise as well. I use both serrated knives *and* scissors for fishing. They make my life about a billion times easier.
God to much talking. Just show us how to do it.
H B try holding your breath.
Boring!