Battle on the Ice - Sergei Prokofiev / Los Angeles Symphonic Winds
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- Battle on the Ice from Alexander Nevsky by Sergei Prokofiev.
Performed by the Los Angeles Symphonic Winds
Conducted by Music Director Stephen Piazza
Visualization by Maestro Stephen Pizza.
Band Transcription by Dr. Joseph Hebert, Loyola University, New Orleans, Louisiana.
Edited by
Dr. Anthony Purcell and Charles Fernandez - เพลง
The Great masterpiece of cinema of all time!!!
When an 80 year old historically-based movie beats 90% of similar movies today by leagues...
You fell for the propaganda you fucking idiot
Is it propaganda to tell the truth? You are a true American. To know the story for an American is the shame and influence of Putin
Propaganda isn't necessarily untrue, just biased towards one side or another.
Cadet Laventure: no it wasn't propaganda these soldiers did fight for their life but for the Germans it was just another conquest. But since you so smart you probably don't know who fell for the propaganda: the American soldiers when they were sent to kill the Iraqis... CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC - these are all the REAL propaganda outfits and usually fighting on the side of the evil... there was nothing evil about USSR preparing their people to the fight against the Germans.
But what propaganda? German? american or rusia propaganda? :-) And where its the diferenc betwen thoses propagandas?
This movie so well made that sometimes I think this is a documentary from 1242.
Ahah..course!
petvesta you said it~man
SOME OF RUSSIAN GENIUS IDEAS VERY WELL PERFORMED. IF RUSSANS DID SAME WITH INVASION OF KHAZARIAN BOLSHEVIKS WHAT THEY DID WITH TEUTONIC MASS MURDERERS OF SLAVS, SLAVS WOULD NOT BE IN POSITION OF EXTERMINATION LIKE NOWDAYS
What's the name of this movie?
@@gerardjagroo Alexander Nevsky (with embedded subtitles) here on Y-tube, th-cam.com/video/-nRev9FvsBU/w-d-xo.html
гениально,бесподобно мурашки по коже и в тоже время слезы текут от величия момента.слава героям
Мы их потомки и гены у нас наших предков, ибо мы не победимы и мы бессмертные, ибо нас множество
Причем самая многочисленная белая нация а Мире.
Величайший фильм, Величайшая музыка.
Invasion of Novgorod in the 13th century by the Teutonic Knights of the Holy Roman Empire and their defeat by Prince Alexander, known popularly as Alexander Nevsky (1220-1263).
Germans were given task by Catholic Pope. It was called crusade.
S.S.Skala Not Novgorod but the battle took place on Lake Peipus/Tschudskoye near the city of Pskov. The Alexander Newsky memorial is still there.
@@Martina-Kosicanka - A crusade against Orthodox Christians? Lol!
@@alexeykargojarvinen5273 Have you ever tried Google?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice "...Part of the Northern Crusades"
Alexey Kargojarvinen Western Orthodox Christianity vs Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Luterally like Shiites and Sunnis, same religion different tribes
Гениально.Приближение тяжелой кавалерии,смятение пехоты, практически неизбежная смерть,но надежда и победа.(за сумбур извиняюсь)
Alexander beat the grand master because he was young himself. He was only 22 years old. As the Russian chronicles write, Alexander was strong in body, handsome in face (noble), and had a thunderous voice. That's why everyone followed him.And when he died, he mourned the whole of mother Russia.
Фейк
Ты что ли?@@user-Graf664
@user-GraТы что ли?f664
For his victories and wise policy, Alexander was proclaimed a saint by the Russian Orthodox Church. His image is depicted on icons that are still in Russian churches.
И не только в русских храмах ,в Софии есть храм А. Невского и в других частях Мира.
A masterpiece in the truest sense
In medieval Russia, battleground fights you!
MegaAwesomeNick
Bhgjrrre
IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO SAVE RUSSIANS FROM EURO/DEGENERATE HATERS OF RUSSIANS IT IS SUB-ZERO TEMPERATURES. BUT RUSSIAN MUST NEVER FORGET THAT ONLY SOLUTION (FOR SURVIVAL-OF COURSE) IS FINAL SOLUTION. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE PROMOTED IN WORKING CATTLE FOR "WESTERNERS".
Surprisingly accurate joke...
Bravo-bravissimo.
Spasibo, molodtsy :^)
SOME OF RUSSIAN GENIUS IDEAS VERY WELL PERFORMED. IF RUSSANS DID SAME WITH INVASION OF KHAZARIAN BOLSHEVIKS WHAT THEY DID WITH TEUTONIC MASS MURDERERS OF SLAVS, SLAVS WOULD NOT BE IN POSITION OF EXTERMINATION LIKE NOWDAYS
IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO SAVE RUSSIANS FROM EURO/DEGENERATE HATERS OF RUSSIANS IT IS SUB-ZERO TEMPERATURES. BUT RUSSIAN MUST NEVER FORGET THAT ONLY SOLUTION (FOR SURVIVAL-OF COURSE) IS FINAL SOLUTION. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE PROMOTED IN WORKING CATTLE FOR "WESTERNERS".
Good playing, folks. Enjoyed it.
I watched this movie in cinema when it came out. Great memories
But, how old are You? When was it? Or did You see the real Ice Battle itself?
@@oyoy3330 yes I am Ice Battle veteran. I am glad the director got it right.
You're aptly called mushroom head, indeed.
most of this extras were concripts of the red army, they couldn't imagine that in just three years will be fughting in a real war against a real german army where sadly many of them will get killed
Сказать.что это гениальное произведение сегодня актуально .как никогда - ничего не сказать!!!
Гениальное в руках сталинской пропоганды
@@user-Graf664 у всех своя пропаганда. Пишется пропаганда.
@@user-Graf664 талантливо снятое враньё,а Невский хорошим человеком не был,мягко сказано ввиду закона о защите верующих.Как и святой Владимир их.Тоже Г...
@@АлоИраВыходи можно подумать, что крестоносцы святыми были, ага.
@@АлоИраВыходи
Вы помнте Невского Сашку-то, да? :)
Ну шведов-то Александр Невский разбил на Неве реке. И где тут вранье?
А вы что, швед, что так реагируете?
this scene with the March of the Templars playing would be the greatest
это Русская земля
"Эх, коротка кольчужка!" (с)
САМОЕ УДИВИТЕЛЬНОЕ,что искали,искали,но на дне затонувших останков рыцарев нет и не было вероятно.Амуниций не сохранилось.
@@АлоИраВыходи кости и амуниция в воде быстро разлагаются. А подо льдом никто не тонул: это легенда, возникшая в эпоху Ивана Грозного.
@@ОлегКочережкин Да,что вы говорите?Амуницию и кости в воде находят периодов намного ранних,чем время этого побоища.Кроме того и на суше в тех местах никаких признаков сражений.
@@АлоИраВыходи , вы поклонник Новой хронологии?
@@ТатьянаОрганова нет не хронологии,а поклонница вещественных доказов.Их нет.Никто из академической науки уже не настаивает о "ледовой драке",как о масштабном сражении.Нападение Невского и его рати по сбору налогов в пользу татар на торговое представительство рыцарского ордена.Погибло с той и другой стороны несколько человек.Даже имена погибших известны.Один из них по фамилии примерно Дрочилов или Дрочило.Летопись есть и она сохранилась.Остальное советский миф придуманный Эзенштайном или как его там в угоду Сталину.Цель нагнетание мнения о плохих Западниках Точно известно,что орден на который напал Невский и у себя на родине насчитывал чуть более тысячи человек и являлся сугубо гуманитарным-Госпитальным.Как Невский мог воевать с армией этого ордена,если её и в помине не было.
This is so good. Not accurate but a good watch. Fact is, the tutonic knights were less in number but inflicted heavy casualties none the less and both sides suffered huge losses in this battle. The Novgorod’s just used their environment better. Most of the Germans escaped.
Так будет со всеми нашими "врагами"
WORK BROTHERS!!! LOVE YOU MY BROTHERS !!!!!!!!LOVE YOU NEW RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!
In the Anglo-Saxon world in the movies there is no such quality of the battle scenes at the time. And the musical accompaniment even more.
Yes Piotr this movie is a russian masterpiece and so is the music by Prokofiev.
Please watch "Alexander Nevsky (as never heard before)"
Hope u enjoy
This movie Was filmed when the Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union in the World War Two it pursued the patriotic feeling that destroyed the German Army in Stalingrad and Kursk
it was 4 years earlier))))
You know, for as early as this, it seems sort of realistic.
yes, being aware that this was composed and filmed in stalinistic era
Much more realistic than recent "Battle of bastards" at least
IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO SAVE RUSSIANS FROM EURO/DEGENERATE HATERS OF RUSSIANS IT IS SUB-ZERO TEMPERATURES. BUT RUSSIAN MUST NEVER FORGET THAT ONLY SOLUTION (FOR SURVIVAL-OF COURSE) IS FINAL SOLUTION. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE PROMOTED IN WORKING CATTLE FOR "WESTERNERS".
Épico !!
I watched this when I was at school,and I thought it was great.
I would love to get the full movie.
I just came by this by accident.
+Anthony cotton You can find full version with English subtitle here on Y-tube.
Thanks very much.
Great.
Images from A. NEVSKI by Sercei Eisenstein
Perfect!
If you want to see the whole movie, you can. All ya gotta do is ask you tube for it. It's there. I saw it. Would you believe I saw this movie in a theater in santa barbara only 15 or so years ago.
...the first attempt to bring European values in Russia
Not the last, alas.
Theocratical, last to convert in Europe from paganism, Livonian off-shoots of the Teutonic order that was slaughtering its way through Livonian lands just 2 centuries before, tried to force Roman Pope's ass-kissing onto a direct democracy of Novgorod's city-state. Seems legit, you dumb fucking fuck. European values my ass.
Only Novgorod has been Christian for two centuries.
What pagans did you see in Novgorod at that time?
It was simply because they followed a different type of Christianity
SOME OF RUSSIAN GENIUS IDEAS VERY WELL PERFORMED. IF RUSSANS DID SAME WITH INVASION OF KHAZARIAN BOLSHEVIKS WHAT THEY DID WITH TEUTONIC MASS MURDERERS OF SLAVS, SLAVS WOULD NOT BE IN POSITION OF EXTERMINATION LIKE NOWDAYS
Интересно.
Битва на Чудском озере
IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO SAVE RUSSIANS FROM EURO/DEGENERATE HATERS OF RUSSIANS IT IS SUB-ZERO TEMPERATURES. BUT RUSSIAN MUST NEVER FORGET THAT ONLY SOLUTION (FOR SURVIVAL-OF COURSE) IS FINAL SOLUTION. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE PROMOTED IN WORKING CATTLE FOR "WESTERNERS".
His music is like from hell, but it is so nice. I love it
Too many buckets on heads guys
I hear quite a few chords and notes of this in Jerry Goldsmith's work.
Rather like The Winds of Winter. I prefer this to the terrible adaptation of Stannis' battle with the Boltons.
мы русские. знай наших.
this version sadly lacks the power and fire this piece needs
I was thinking that too. It's like a Disney version or something.
@Adam Frisk: ‘Disney version’, he says, as if Disney scores frequently lacked power and fire. Go check out certain bits of the score of ‘The Hunchback of Notre Dame’ or ‘The Black Cauldron’ or even ‘Aladdin’.
この映画と西部戦線異常無しを上回る戦争映画は、その後90年経っても生まれていない。
Que director !!!!!HUBO OTRO IGUAL???
Protazanov
Teutonic Knights??
Не то. Классическая версия доставляет более
I feel like the buildup to the battle is some of the most epic, awe-inspiring film making I've ever seen. The actual battle, sadly, has a lot of...well, straight up "goofy" parts. I kind of wish it maintained the same mood as the intro
I keep thinking Lindybeige would whinge about the tactics, "Now Swords are useless against them!" -> swordsman charge breaks the shield wall.
But I know Lindy would in fact respect this movie for the incredibly skillful propaganda it actually is.
Какой милый ролик.Автору 👍👍👍
Эйзенштейн сталинский Рифеншталь
Музыка клевая
Высрал, убогий?
it was very hot on the set of the film about 40 degrees - you can see how water drips from the helmet ...5:26..
Great Russia
Excellent music and film, but the movie "Iwan the Terrible" of Eisenstein and Prokofiev is much better in any respect.
I mean a battle on ice also happened in 15th century in Poland.
This is like, Get Rekt m8 the movie
This visual with our audio performance is just great. Is the audio recording during our performance at VPAC (with Choir) or some other hall?
Спасибо за прекрасное исполнение!
Благословенные времена. Когда русские были русскими. Когда русским было не стыдно назваться .
А тебе стыдно? Тогда успокойся-ты не русский
@@speedmetal7476 ?
Блять, нас в в начале войны учили не убивать топором, а оглушать обухом. Вот какой суровый Сталин.
Im russian)
CROU CROU
One thing no one credits Prokofiev with: introducing sinister Latin verse that the viewer can't understand but sure sounds scary. Which makes sense for a Russian (officially) atheist audience where the villains are Catholic fanatics - its creepy, grandiose and alien all at once. God knows how many film scores have used that trope without even realising the origins or their context.
The Lord of the Rings revisited!
Хорошая подбоеа
This movie is so revolutionary it has shaky cam
La canción está perrona, sobre todo el latín para invocar demonios
The Lyrics:
"Peregrinus expectavi, pedes meos in cymbalis" perhaps interpreted as: "Foreigners we come, the land is clanging (like cymbals) under our feet" (allusion to the ice cracking beneath their feet)-- but it is also possible that this is a nonsense phrase, strung together from several psalms, the same psalms selected by Igor Stravinsky, who wrote The Symphony of Psalms in 1930, whom Prokofiev was mocking.
Sorry, but this clunky video edit cut some of Eisenstein’s best shots. And again, the 1938 film forecast what was to come. It was not a response to Nazi invasion.
Formidable...
Ach, I Kant zee sheiss mit zis geflurgingsher bucket on mein head !
Du bist untrm Wasser, kannst ja nix, Schweinhundritter.
This is how shit really went down. Dudes really ran at each other with sharpened metal and hacked and stabbed each other to death. I can't even fucking imagine the rate of PTSD back then... where every single person you killed you looked in the eyes as they died? Ethnic cleansing using sickle swords, axes, hammers..... fuck me..
+Alvin Akbar I saw the whole film. There's a scene where the Germans were literally tossing babies into a bonfire and walking on people while in armor. This is nothing.
+lolman5552011 Well, you have to remember the movie was made shortly before the Germans and Soviets went to war, so showing the Teutons as almost inhuman figures, willing to rape and pillage everything in their path, willing to destroy even the sacred and innocent, it was an important piece of propaganda. Consider the end of the film, when we seethe thousands of people of Novgorod standing happy and free while a triumphant choir sounds above them, along with a text overlay saying something to the effect of "We will fight, and we will win." Eisenstein was no fool, he knew what was wanted, and he tried to make the best picture he could while giving the state what it wanted too.
Keeping all that in mind, it's fantastically effective when taken as a whole.
ikr
There was less PTSD I believe because war was much more accepted. At least in ancient times it was.
Whether Romans or Barbarians, war and killing many enemies was seen as something glorious.
попытка внедрения в России "европейских ценностей" провалилась под лёд
Niestety nie jedyna próba doprowadzenia Rosji do europejskich wartości.
Aleksandr Newski (Kantata)
Kantata składa się z siedmiu części:
"Rosja pod jarzmem mongolskim"
"Pieśń o Aleksandra Newskiego"
"Krzyżowcy" w Pskowie
"Powstań osób Rosyjska"
"Bitwa na lodzie"
"Martwe pole"
"Wejście do Pskowa Aleksandra"
Czas kantata około 40 minut.
YOU SPEAK LIKE ANTICHRIST! WE IN ROMAN CATHOLIC RULE HAVE TREATMENT FOR ANTICHRISTS FOR OVER THOUSAND YEARS!!! BURNING IN SLOW FIRE FOR GREAT SINS AND IN FAST FOR SMALL SINS FOR ANYBODY WHO DID NOT ACCEPT HOLY POPE AS SAVIOR!!!!. SO CHOSE IT!
6:23 (Rather cheerful for a battle, don'tcha think?)
Its kinda sad that russian war cinema today inst half as good as this movie.
Как можно фальшивить? хора вообще не слышно. Они вообще академической музыкой занимаются?
5:50 Battle of Bastards anyone?
i was thinking the same, battle on ice, battle for winterfell, maybe this was an inspiration,
In fact, the Battle on the Ice (aka on Peipus Lake) resembles, in smaller scale of course, the Battle of Cannae - the main impact of enemy forces takes a relatively weak center, which consists primarily of peasant and urban militia. This followed by envelopement and strike from both flanks by mounted Druzhina (professional warriors, a Russian equivalent of German knights and sergeants-at-arms).
Battle of Bastards - 100% inspired by Battle of Cannae, what could be clearly seen in shots taken from the height of bird flight. Jon Snow side = Romans, but with Happy End, thanks to Littlefinger. It's sad, but Jon Snow is incompetent military commander by any standarts and almost destroyed his own army.
ВС же так как в жизни
у крестоносцев и ведра для нужды и котелки для супа в хозяйстве бы пригодились
Ха ха! Мерси , мадам)
poor performance of great music👎👎👎
Compare the homage in the newly made WONDERWOMAN to some of these battlescenes......
The vocal recording here is disappointingly weak.
Kaiburr This isn't the original recording that was paired with the film you walnut
The chorus is really bad, the winds are great.
The pact of 1938 bought time for Eisenstein and Prokoffiev to make this propaganda film set in 1242 to stir Russians for 1941-45 Operation Barbarrosa which the Germans lost in the same way.
послепили..музыка не сходиться , голосов нет.ужасная версия..(
th-cam.com/video/uiV1z7Q06Co/w-d-xo.html
There real and the end of Čud lake remnants of the crusader? What say the archeological discoveries?
Говорят, что гавно не тонет!
The place of battle is not discovered for today.
It’s under water now.
@@ТатьянаРуднева-в1щЧерез 5000 лет обнаружится, что 800 лет это как миг.хаха.
If only rulers would fight each other like that today like the son of a gun they are especially Putin who is hiding behind the arms and forces of tightest security in the world at 7:37. Boss vs boss.
it is necessary to be friends with Russia, especially with Putin. Otherwise, Russia will devour everyone and not choke
self-propelled grandpa or "liver sausage" vs. judo player, good idea
Remember that time deus did not vult?
German fight with russians or turkies?
russians
Yankees
Блять,как много озлобленных русских комментариев.
Фильм шикарный хоть и пропаганда.
Сам ты пропаганда. Вот "демон революции" это пропаганда. Причем по качеству даже хуже Гебельсовской.
drnil72
Ладно.На Чудском озере столкнулись силы Новгородского княжества и,в основном,Ливонского ордена(!) и Датского королевства.Тевтонцы же пошли "за компанию",те кому не нашлось работы в ордене.И даже Симеоновская Летопись говорит что "рыцарей"(тевтонцев) было убито всего 800 человек,а вот чуди "было побито без числа".Проще говоря русские дрались с прибалтами и датчанами,которые просто расширяли свои владения,а вовсе не с Тевтонским орденом,который тогда застрял в Польше и Литве.
Сам князь Александр был весьма противоречивой фигурой.Он отказался поддержать русские княжества,когда те воевали с монголами и согласился без боя платить им дань.Я лично думаю, что это был разумный умный шаг и он спас тем самым Новгород,но есть и другие взгляды.Некоторые историки считают,что он просто сглупил или желал зла другим князьям,которым он завидовал,так как евоный личный княжеский удел был очень небольшим.
Но рисовать его вот таким вот народным героем,когда он позволял уводить русских рабов в Орду,как наглядно показано в начале фильма, это просто детский лепет.
Scevoll2929
Scevoll2929
простых решений не бывает, тогда были варианты только из плохих решений, тем не менее эти победы легли в основу будущего освобождения от ига, ведь дмитрий донской это потомок александра невского
макс люлюкин
мужик я согласен.У вас весьма здравый комментарий,хоть я и впервы слышу,что он родственник с Донским.Мне с вашим комментарием негде спорить,но рисовать его вот таким вот правильным и тем более считать святым это просто глупость.
@@scevol29 эпоха была сложная.
This is like krzyżacy was an american film but was low budget and cringe
They took the song and...killed it...
wth
Орки дерьмократы 1-0) кто к нам с дерьмократией придёт тот от неё и сгинет! Не моё, говорят то ли Ванга то ли Омар Хайям)
Жаль, что никто не видит того, что именно религия стравливает народы друг с другом...
Война в природе человека.
Ой дурак..... религия не сталкивает, сталкивают идиоты
Ты не прав! А до появления религии не воевали???))) Шире мысли!
@@001ssp Ещё один... Назови мне время, когда религия не существовала?
@@32ivan23 Вот и я о том же...
Ha..ha...ha..ha..ha...ha..!
Pszeczek. Bolek - Lolek. Psja krev. Polska kurwa.
что это?? это скокаже нид вырезать чтобы норм смотреть???)) лжецы
A wonderful piece of propaganda when the Russian people badly needed it.
The voices sound like a bunch of dogs dying.
This movie make at World war 2 , Such a great propaganda .
Германия напала на Россию в 1941 году, а это 1938 год
Реж не верных
На самом деле ледового побоища ни когда не было.
Садись, два!
@Самоизоляция мозга,вот тебе с твоим ником надо мозги вывести из изоляции.А теперь попытайся его включить(мозг).На чудском озере в апреле лед???!!Его уже а марте там нет!!!
@@plur3994 С XII в. начинается внутрисезонная изменчивость климата, которая явилась предвестником малого ледникового периода (переход к нему на Руси наметился в первую треть XII в.). Именно в это время имело место возрастание таких экстремальных природных явлений, как продолжительные холодные зимы, возврат холодов в начале лета, раннее наступление морозов осенью, что приводило к гибели урожая и голоду. Так, в 1230-1233 гг. в Смоленске вымерло большинство жителей, а Новгороду Великому удалось выжить благодаря подвозу хлеба заморскими купцами.
Ага, в 1941-1942 годах когда на Чудском озере лёд сошёл?! Климат тогда другой был!
Some good soviet propaganda
It's not a propaganda. Learn history, ignoramus! Teutonic knights got their arses kicked in this battle. This is the historical fact.
+Stardust yes but they are referred to as the Germans not the Teutonic Knights. The "Germans" are shown as stupid and cowardly tryhards. They are not humanized like Russians. It is very hard to see the German faces.
Many directors owe a lot to soviet propaganda, it was pioneers like Dziga Vertov, and Sergei Eisenstein that completely changed film as an art form.
+ King Floogoe You are wrong. At that time the Germans in Russia designated not people of a certain nationality, but ALL foreigners.
@@KingMoogoe2 мировая война - это конечно немецкий гумманизм
Vhat a load of garbage. Political need for nationalism of protecting selfish existence. I do like Prokopiev, any without any political objectives. Well done by musicians, not so well by actors.