Very nice job. I am the unlucky owner of a FORD Windstar. I actually bought this van new and even had it treated with Ziebart? Anyway, anyone familiar with the Windstar is aware that FORD recalled almost 1 million of these rust buckets back in 2010 & 2011 to inspect their subframes and bandage the rear axles (that were snapping in half, resulting in several serious accidents). If the axle or subframe was determined to be too far gone, they offered the owner a fair market credit for the van and kept it. If the axle and subframe were deemed fixable, they put two crappy brackets on the rear axle and four crappy brackets on the subframe with epoxy over the critical failure parts (both control arms and the rear subframe bots) and then returned the van to the respective owner. This is what they did for my van and now my subframe is completely rusted away with the right side sway bar bracket completely gone and a big section of my subframe also gone (rusted away). My van has always been garage kept and only has 150k miles on it. I will never buy another Ford, NEVER !
Great tutorial video, in looking after older cars I always use a rust killer after initial sanding or grinding, it seeps into crevices and dries ready for primer or underseal, works well even on 20+ year old vehicles for me anyway.
one more suggestion- after cleaning, treat with phosphoric acid before painting- and POR15 is awesome stuff over acid etched bare metal- it will basically NEVER rust... but POR does NOT stick to paint...i use the rollon bedliner a lot too- but always treat with OSPHO /metalprep / any other phosphoric acid on the market- it creeps between layers and stops rust dead in its tracks, plus paint bites to it really well.
Is it possible for you to put together a complete? Set of videos, 1 a 2011. E350 Ford Van of everything. You've got from body work to rebuild. Engine transmission rears. Doing the everything that you can for a price . I would surely like to hear a price to get them all together. In one package
I Used some liquid zinc chromate to pour into cracks and between layers of the steel then let it dry then painted the anti-rust black paint that Tractor supply sells. i have a 94 Nissan 4x4 that was 75% rust and cleaned it good like you did then Touch up welded here and there and coated it. Now the Truck is a woods buggy truck hauling wood.
Try using POR-15. It has proven more than tough for any application I have used it on. POR-15 is a great product for stopping rust and preventing the spread of more rust.
Great job! I would love to keep my 99 Bonneville with more miles then a space shuttle because everything on it still works but the rust has done it in. I'm no expert but I'm puzzled by this guy who thinks a frame shop could do better, exactly what could he do better?
Only use an oil-based coating which can breathe. Bedliner was the worst mistake as are any undercoat that is not oil based... I bet this went to the scrapyard in 2016.
My 98' cavalier has 306,000+ miles on it, and well.. There is no unibody anymore. Idk what holds the car together and I have to take it easy on turns. But the motor runs strong! Doesn't leak or burn anything. Wish there was some way to reinforce the frame.
the best way to repair is to locate all spot welds and bust them to remove the lower plate, sandblast all open sections , replicate this plate in a 11 GA sheet metal then weld it to remaining crossmember using plug welds and continuous welds to replicate the factory assembly taking caution to not warp the crossmember. After all this work, apply a good rustproofing paint as Por-15 or something alike you'll never on that car ....much better protection than the original one
Hey i really need your help! I have a honda that has a ruined subframe. But i do not know the process in taking off the subframe. Like is there a special way to support the car and engine?? Any advise would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR VIDEOS ON HERE!! My 2000 Accord has been and still is a strong running car & Ive loved it. Im from Maine so the salt is horrible on our cars. Recently they found a rust hole in frame in front of rear tire. So bummed because they said its gotta go. I bought a used Altima, what do you recommend I should spray/paint the underneath of my car with to help prevent rust?? The same as in this video or different? Thanks so much. Where in Maine are you? I'm in Bangor.
As hacked up and patched this sub frame was before you fixed it, I think I would have looked for another donor frame and used it. Buying a replacement frame from a salvage yard in another area of the country that has a dry climate is a good place to source one. Sure, it's fun to blast and patch and restore metal, but in this case you should have found a place to recycle this frame for you! That would have been my choice. Sometimes you have to give up the ghost or the whole vehicle even and start over again with a better candidate for your time, effort and money.
I was going to say the same thing. The rusted frame does not have the same strength as a good one and poses safety hazard. Better get another one. If it's some surface rust then the repair is OK, but if it's rusted half way or all way out then a replacement is needed.
The tone I get from this and other forums is that the subframe / front cradle corrosion problem is no big deal. I wonder if I am seeing information from folks that have a certain level of expertise, giving them a chance to address the problem before actual structural failure while being driven? My wife’s 2000 Saturn LS frame / cradle did fail while being driven; she was so fortunate to have been stranded, unable to move, while driving very slowly. The right, front lower control arm’s front pivot bracket pulled completely away from the frame. The right side half shaft’s inner spline was pulled out of the tranny, and acted as a stiff rod between the spindle and what was still left of the cradle between the sites of the two (2) lower control arm’s pivot brackets. That made the car unable to steer or drive out of the lane of traffic it was blocking. I tell all that, only to ask: why didn’t Buff Whalen Chevrolet, Sterling Heights, MI, tell / warn of the corrosion damage, since they had been doing oil changes and had the opportunity to see the condition of the cradle?
good job on the repair looks good, and will probably last a long time. I believe that they should used the truck bed coating on all that stuff, and yes I know that it would add weight, and cost but guess what in the long run everyone would be thankful I bet. I have a subaru outback, and the subframe looks horrible I just bought, but I couldn't get under the vehicle to check this area while I was on the lot, but who does that. No dealer wants you to find those secrets of a potential deal breaker.
many dealers coat used cars so you cannot see. only buy what you can see easy with trucks hard to get under cars so tell dealer buy depends on him putting on lift so you can see. big money be wise.
If you have a big plastic container. pour in there vinegar add a jar of salt let it rest overnight and all rust will be gone, just wipe it away with a steel bristle it really works!
I wish I had a subframe to replace, my 03 Crown Vic is rusted through going up to the front, at the bend, of course. Can't get it inspected, not ready to junk it yet... 2,200 is too much money for a demo derby car.
Looks great and thank you, but I believe any coating will lift away holding wet and rust in. Suggest people linseed oil their underbody. Drill holes where there are double walls and spray in linseed oil hard with frames as they have little access to inside but there are supposed to be drain holes. Use those………if diligent each summer your vehicle should last forever. Due diligence.
Interesting point about the coating lifting away from the metal. Do you suppose it will still happen here when he cleaned the surface quite well, and must have used some kind of rust converter before priming and painting and sealing with the bedliner?
The old farmers had the right idea their farm tools haybalers etc. were left outside they used linseed oil……..you watch your metal in a few years you reapply. It does not lift it will wash away after a 2-3-years . I do my trucks underbody and I am not as religious as I should be…….but years go by and oil is still there. The dam double walls are bad water salt gets in and you cannot see or get linseed oil in. Metal last forever, at least in human terms if you keep out air & moisture. BEDLINER bad if it is an insert it holds water. if it is applied it lifts away and traps water.
Linseed oil goes way back, as you said. It was around long before there were any of those exotic anti-rust chemicals on the market. I will say that it does protect exposed metal as I have used it on my shop equipment as a rust preventative. I live in Florida where the damp climate will rust bare metal in a heart beat and a coat of linseed oil keeps out rust for several years. A re-application is required from time to time and is the only drawback, however linseed oil is cheap and easily available from hardware, paint stores and home improvement outlets.
Quick question, I am going to be restoring a 65 mercury comet and there is some rust damage in the chassis. One spot in particular has a hole in the corner of it. How would I go about fixing it. (By corner I mean this, imagine looking down the center a square pipe, it is at the top corner of it.)
I have to do something like this with my 2001 sunfire. the subframe has cracked at the rear, has numerous rust holes, and needs to be replaced. I have a 98 cavalier that I will be pulling the subframe off of and cleaning, repairing if need be and painting it like you did. I dont have any welding skills but im planning on taking a hobbyist class at a school. then just maybe i might get this car done. But i have a question. do i need to replace any rivets holding the frame on with rivets or can i use nuts and bolts? also do I need a specific type (grade 8, or 5 or something)? I think there are 8-10 bolts and 2-4 rivets holding mine on.
Well my motor leaks no oil, but the rack and pinion on the other hand does, and the oil leaks everywhere it should. im not going to repair that problem XD.
I have heard that paint rust preventative can be a bad idea... since you cleaned the area first that probably made it work. Did the rust paint preventative work in the long run for you?
ho w much would a service like this cost at a auto shop? i have a 96 nissan maxima with a rusted subframe {rightat the egnine mounts} but a ver strong enginge. should i fix it or cut my losses and sell it?
I just got an estimate for a subframe replacements. With labor it should be about 605$ plus tax. That's not for a new subframe but one from a salvage yard (hopefully in good shape) It breaks down to 155 for the subframe and 451 for the labor. This shop seems to have pretty reasonable prices so it may differ elsewhere. Some other things that need to be done as well were a bit lower than other quotes I got. You can also go on repairpal.com. They provide average/fair price estimates and even list some shops that should honor them.
It's called planned obsolescence. They want you to buy another car, so they make more money. Or they want you to have it repaired by their dealership, so they make more money.
How much do you want to pay for a new vehicle any way? How many people could afford to pay $50K for a small economy car any way? Or how about a $100K for a full size truck? If you take reasonable care of them, most of vehicles will last long enough till you are tired of them. Don't let salt build up on them if your home area has winter weather and the roads get salted. Spray it off once a week underneath if you commute to work a longer distance every day. Park in a garage if possible when you're at home. If you buy a new vehicle and you are worried about what it might look like in a few years underneath, get a can of good primer and paint and paint areas underneath that might rust. I did that with a new truck and shot the rear axles, undercoated the lips of the wheel openings on the bed, as well as the wheel housing. Common sense works great if you use it. This is something 90% of the people could do.
Depending on the model it might be body on frame which is more repairable than unibody, it is possible to cut out the rusted section and make a new section of frame to weld in
Very informative video, Thanks. I have a 2001 Accord that I took care of really well since I bought it. It looks and rides fantastic, only thing the repair guy says the frame is rotted just like yours. He quoted over 2 thou to fix it. Breaks my heart. I read on the net that this problem is caused by a faulty air conditioner drain or something. Honda should do a recall. I mean how many of these are still on the road?
can i bring my car over i need unibody frame rail rebuilt where cradle mount bolts to it.......the rail is absent.....i was told the car needs to go to scrap......it's pretty much mint everywhere else....boy i wish i could weld
Jamel Ramsook The engine and transmission have various mounting points to the subframe and the body so you just need to temporarily support the engine and trannsmission while changing the subframe. This is often done by securely placing something across the top of engine bay then chaining the motor to it before removing the subframe. There are special tools for this too but many DIY'ers have creatively improvised with logs, lumber, pipes, etc. Just be sure they don't slip and move. I used a chain hoist to the ceiling trusses of my garage which allowed me fine control over the tension however you should never trust a mechanical device like a hoist or jack so be sure to have some way to lock it solid if you go that route. Take care.
+DoSumpthin I have a 1980 trans am and there is a little bit of rust inside the frame what would be the best-selling way of getting it out with out taking the frame off the car
I just my K frame a year ago. I could not afford to pay anyone. I'm not a mechanic and don't have the tools. I a woman that can do anything thing cuz it is all in common sense. so I got access to all the tools and did it in a little over a month pretty much buy myself.
I have a daughter in law with a very similar outlook. If another human can do it, how hard can it be? That is one Hell of a healthy outlook. If it is not working now, I can not possibly make it any worse.
fredriktaaje After installing on the vehicle I ended up applying a coating inside the frame. It comes in a can with very long tubes that insert into the openings around the frame and subframe. The ends of the tubes have nozzles that spray out in all directions. How well does it work? I have no idea. It's a crappy old car but at least I gave it my best huh? :) Take care.
My 2004 Pontiac grand prix super charger i got new now 15 yrs later. Driving in new England .my mechanic told me tohday this sep will be tbe last inspection sticker . He told me due,to the subframe rotted to look for another car . Im going to have autobody SHOP look at it second opinion .lol.... this,guy is,one of tge original chop shops in my town . Il see what he has to say. Giving the fact that the car runs like new 212.000 miles i know the car. The rot is in the rear of the car .
dude you go through all that to get rid of rust and i see 2 old ass bold rusted to crap saved in the spot they came from sandblast them fudgers and grease them holes ahhh dam it lolololol JHC
Very nice job. I am the unlucky owner of a FORD Windstar. I actually bought this van new and even had it treated with Ziebart? Anyway, anyone familiar with the Windstar is aware that FORD recalled almost 1 million of these rust buckets back in 2010 & 2011 to inspect their subframes and bandage the rear axles (that were snapping in half, resulting in several serious accidents). If the axle or subframe was determined to be too far gone, they offered the owner a fair market credit for the van and kept it. If the axle and subframe were deemed fixable, they put two crappy brackets on the rear axle and four crappy brackets on the subframe with epoxy over the critical failure parts (both control arms and the rear subframe bots) and then returned the van to the respective owner. This is what they did for my van and now my subframe is completely rusted away with the right side sway bar bracket completely gone and a big section of my subframe also gone (rusted away). My van has always been garage kept and only has 150k miles on it. I will never buy another Ford, NEVER !
Great tutorial video, in looking after older cars I always use a rust killer after initial sanding or grinding, it seeps into crevices and dries ready for primer or underseal, works well even on 20+ year old vehicles for me anyway.
one more suggestion- after cleaning, treat with phosphoric acid before painting- and POR15 is awesome stuff over acid etched bare metal- it will basically NEVER rust... but POR does NOT stick to paint...i use the rollon bedliner a lot too- but always treat with OSPHO /metalprep / any other phosphoric acid on the market- it creeps between layers and stops rust dead in its tracks, plus paint bites to it really well.
You are a perfectionist ; wish everyone who does bodywork did that good of a job !!
If there the only rusty parts then that's an easy fix, we use the POR-15 product to internally treat the sub-frames.
Very nice repair job. I am in the process of repairing the rusted portion of the body that bolted to the cradle in my 2006 Saturn Vue.
Did the same with my Saturn but didn't paint it just lots of undercoating over 50,000 miles later and still running the winter roads of Canada
Is it possible for you to put together a complete?
Set of videos, 1 a 2011. E350 Ford Van of everything. You've got from body work to rebuild. Engine transmission rears. Doing the everything that you can for a price . I would surely like to hear a price to get them all together. In one package
I Used some liquid zinc chromate to pour into cracks and between layers of the steel then let it dry then painted the anti-rust black paint that Tractor supply sells.
i have a 94 Nissan 4x4 that was 75% rust and cleaned it good like you did then Touch up welded here and there and coated it. Now the Truck is a woods buggy truck hauling wood.
Try using POR-15. It has proven more than tough for any application I have used it on. POR-15 is a great product for stopping rust and preventing the spread of more rust.
Listen to the guy, I used POR15 on my 81 280zx. The areas I treated never rusted ever again...Just wish it wasn't so expensive. Like $45 a pint.
Terry Green- does it come in different colors?
I have seen gray & black, only; their web page may have more information.
I would have used chassis saver or por15 rather than bed liner paint. Rustoleum products are just okay in my experience.
nice paint over your booger welds
Great job! I would love to keep my 99 Bonneville with more miles then a space shuttle because everything on it still works but the rust has done it in. I'm no expert but I'm puzzled by this guy who thinks a frame shop could do better, exactly what could he do better?
Honestly patch welding is an option for some frame holes! I hope that went well! Sounds like a nice car.
truck bedliner = rubber. could let moisture get behind it and make it worse.
Grease is better
Many vehicles have rusted away because of this video
Only use an oil-based coating which can breathe. Bedliner was the worst mistake as are any undercoat that is not oil based... I bet this went to the scrapyard in 2016.
My 98' cavalier has 306,000+ miles on it, and well.. There is no unibody anymore. Idk what holds the car together and I have to take it easy on turns. But the motor runs strong! Doesn't leak or burn anything. Wish there was some way to reinforce the frame.
Nate Judge take it to several body shops for an opinion.
I like the rust o leam idea, weld isnt the cleanest or nicest, but good idea to stop future rust
the best way to repair is to locate all spot welds and bust them to remove the lower plate, sandblast all open sections , replicate this plate in a 11 GA sheet metal then weld it to remaining crossmember using plug welds and continuous welds to replicate the factory assembly taking caution to not warp the crossmember.
After all this work, apply a good rustproofing paint as Por-15 or something alike
you'll never on that car ....much better protection than the original one
Welding & Rust Oleum were great repairs! Great DIY Work.
Hey i really need your help! I have a honda that has a ruined subframe. But i do not know the process in taking off the subframe. Like is there a special way to support the car and engine?? Any advise would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR VIDEOS ON HERE!! My 2000 Accord has been and still is a strong running car & Ive loved it. Im from Maine so the salt is horrible on our cars. Recently they found a rust hole in frame in front of rear tire. So bummed because they said its gotta go. I bought a used Altima, what do you recommend I should spray/paint the underneath of my car with to help prevent rust?? The same as in this video or different? Thanks so much. Where in Maine are you? I'm in Bangor.
Oils (fluid film, krown, cosmoline) or paint (zinc rich paint, regular paint). Do not forget spraying inside of frame/subframe.
As hacked up and patched this sub frame was before you fixed it, I think I would have looked for another donor frame and used it. Buying a replacement frame from a salvage yard in another area of the country that has a dry climate is a good place to source one. Sure, it's fun to blast and patch and restore metal, but in this case you should have found a place to recycle this frame for you! That would have been my choice. Sometimes you have to give up the ghost or the whole vehicle even and start over again with a better candidate for your time, effort and money.
I was going to say the same thing. The rusted frame does not have the same strength as a good one and poses safety hazard. Better get another one. If it's some surface rust then the repair is OK, but if it's rusted half way or all way out then a replacement is needed.
The tone I get from this and other forums is that the subframe / front cradle corrosion problem is no big deal. I wonder if I am seeing information from folks that have a certain level of expertise, giving them a chance to address the problem before actual structural failure while being driven? My wife’s 2000 Saturn LS frame / cradle did fail while being driven; she was so fortunate to have been stranded, unable to move, while driving very slowly. The right, front lower control arm’s front pivot bracket pulled completely away from the frame. The right side half shaft’s inner spline was pulled out of the tranny, and acted as a stiff rod between the spindle and what was still left of the cradle between the sites of the two (2) lower control arm’s pivot brackets. That made the car unable to steer or drive out of the lane of traffic it was blocking. I tell all that, only to ask: why didn’t Buff Whalen Chevrolet, Sterling Heights, MI, tell / warn of the corrosion damage, since they had been doing oil changes and had the opportunity to see the condition of the cradle?
Wow I'm shock How much Will u charge to do my subframe??
Nice video what sandblasting are you using
Thanks man! i think that all i need. Honda really needs to recall mine but that probably won't happen. Thanks again!
good job on the repair looks good, and will probably last a long time. I believe that they should used the truck bed coating on all that stuff, and yes I know that it would add weight, and cost but guess what in the long run everyone would be thankful I bet. I have a subaru outback, and the subframe looks horrible I just bought, but I couldn't get under the vehicle to check this area while I was on the lot, but who does that. No dealer wants you to find those secrets of a potential deal breaker.
many dealers coat used cars so you cannot see. only buy what you can see easy with trucks hard to get under cars so tell dealer buy depends on him putting on lift so you can see. big money be wise.
If you have a big plastic container. pour in there vinegar add a jar of salt let it rest overnight and all rust will be gone, just wipe it away with a steel bristle it really works!
I wish I had a subframe to replace, my 03 Crown Vic is rusted through going up to the front, at the bend, of course. Can't get it inspected, not ready to junk it yet... 2,200 is too much money for a demo derby car.
Looks great and thank you, but I believe any coating will lift away holding wet and rust in.
Suggest people linseed oil their underbody. Drill holes where there are double walls and spray in linseed oil hard with frames as they have little access to inside but there are supposed to be drain holes. Use those………if diligent each summer your vehicle should last forever. Due diligence.
Interesting point about the coating lifting away from the metal. Do you suppose it will still happen here when he cleaned the surface quite well, and must have used some kind of rust converter before priming and painting and sealing with the bedliner?
The old farmers had the right idea their farm tools haybalers etc. were left outside they used linseed oil……..you watch your metal in a few years you reapply.
It does not lift it will wash away after a 2-3-years . I do my trucks underbody and I am not as religious as I should be…….but years go by and oil is still there.
The dam double walls are bad water salt gets in and you cannot see or get linseed oil in.
Metal last forever, at least in human terms if you keep out air & moisture.
BEDLINER bad if it is an insert it holds water. if it is applied it lifts away and traps water.
Linseed oil goes way back, as you said. It was around long before there were any of those exotic anti-rust chemicals on the market. I will say that it does protect exposed metal as I have used it on my shop equipment as a rust preventative. I live in Florida where the damp climate will rust bare metal in a heart beat and a coat of linseed oil keeps out rust for several years. A re-application is required from time to time and is the only drawback, however linseed oil is cheap and easily available from hardware, paint stores and home improvement outlets.
ChuddleBuggy jjii
Dude I just hope you have primed that subframe first.
Quick question, I am going to be restoring a 65 mercury comet and there is some rust damage in the chassis. One spot in particular has a hole in the corner of it. How would I go about fixing it. (By corner I mean this, imagine looking down the center a square pipe, it is at the top corner of it.)
I have to do something like this with my 2001 sunfire. the subframe has cracked at the rear, has numerous rust holes, and needs to be replaced. I have a 98 cavalier that I will be pulling the subframe off of and cleaning, repairing if need be and painting it like you did. I dont have any welding skills but im planning on taking a hobbyist class at a school. then just maybe i might get this car done. But i have a question. do i need to replace any rivets holding the frame on with rivets or can i use nuts and bolts? also do I need a specific type (grade 8, or 5 or something)? I think there are 8-10 bolts and 2-4 rivets holding mine on.
Very nice work
nice and clean work! what type of sand do you use to sand blast and also how many psi do you apply
Question, did you use a rust converter primer (to neutralize the remaining traces of rust) before applying the bed liner?
I guess I'm kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to watch new movies online ?
@Dangelo Terrance Lately I have been using flixzone. Just google for it =)
@Colton Hugh Definitely, I've been using Flixzone for since march myself :D
@Colton Hugh Thank you, I went there and it seems to work :D I really appreciate it!
@Dangelo Terrance Happy to help :)
holly shit, i have never seen subframe rust like that before, i mean my escort has no floor and sills left but the engine subframe is mint!
+TheRealDeal That is because the ford motor leaks so much oil that it coats and protects the sub frame.
Well my motor leaks no oil, but the rack and pinion on the other hand does, and the oil leaks everywhere it should. im not going to repair that problem XD.
How many layers of paint did you put on it? How long between applying layers?
I have heard that paint rust preventative can be a bad idea... since you cleaned the area first that probably made it work. Did the rust paint preventative work in the long run for you?
What kind of welding machine you used! Thx
You should have bought a new subframe when you weld on a subframe it makes it weak.
ho w much would a service like this cost at a auto shop? i have a 96 nissan maxima with a rusted subframe {rightat the egnine mounts} but a ver strong enginge. should i fix it or cut my losses and sell it?
I just got an estimate for a subframe replacements. With labor it should be about 605$ plus tax. That's not for a new subframe but one from a salvage yard (hopefully in good shape)
It breaks down to 155 for the subframe and 451 for the labor.
This shop seems to have pretty reasonable prices so it may differ elsewhere. Some other things that need to be done as well were a bit lower than other quotes I got.
You can also go on repairpal.com. They provide average/fair price estimates and even list some shops that should honor them.
hi, why do car manufacturers not electroplate steel parts so they don't rust?
good question. probably so the consumer is forced to spend more money on new vehicle more often
Tracy Dalton yea true, or at least they could use stainless steel which is very strong but no, they want money
It's called planned obsolescence. They want you to buy another car, so they make more money. Or they want you to have it repaired by their dealership, so they make more money.
Bottom line is money. Hmmm. Screw the stealerships. I don't trust anybody working on my turd box.
How much do you want to pay for a new vehicle any way? How many people could afford to pay $50K for a small economy car any way? Or how about a $100K for a full size truck? If you take reasonable care of them, most of vehicles will last long enough till you are tired of them. Don't let salt build up on them if your home area has winter weather and the roads get salted. Spray it off once a week underneath if you commute to work a longer distance every day. Park in a garage if possible when you're at home. If you buy a new vehicle and you are worried about what it might look like in a few years underneath, get a can of good primer and paint and paint areas underneath that might rust. I did that with a new truck and shot the rear axles, undercoated the lips of the wheel openings on the bed, as well as the wheel housing. Common sense works great if you use it. This is something 90% of the people could do.
Reasonable ?? love ur choose of replacement metal
i really hate the black stuff because it covers up rust and you cant see if it rusts again
I aint fixing my chevy 1500 frame,it has a hole by the bed mount and it not salvage.
Would like To know if a van 2000 has rust under the van Is repairable if possible ?
Depending on the model it might be body on frame which is more repairable than unibody, it is possible to cut out the rusted section and make a new section of frame to weld in
Very informative video, Thanks. I have a 2001 Accord that I took care of really well since I bought it. It looks and rides fantastic, only thing the repair guy says the frame is rotted just like yours. He quoted over 2 thou to fix it. Breaks my heart. I read on the net that this problem is caused by a faulty air conditioner drain or something. Honda should do a recall. I mean how many of these are still on the road?
margaretsville just found out today on my 02 accord that the subframe is rotted. They quoted me 1500 for subframe and other parts total
can i bring my car over i need unibody frame rail rebuilt where cradle mount bolts to it.......the rail is absent.....i was told the car needs to go to scrap......it's pretty much mint everywhere else....boy i wish i could weld
just a curious teen, do you have to remove the engine to remove subframe or is the engine mounted to the main frame
Jamel Ramsook The engine and transmission have various mounting points to the subframe and the body so you just need to temporarily support the engine and trannsmission while changing the subframe. This is often done by securely placing something across the top of engine bay then chaining the motor to it before removing the subframe. There are special tools for this too but many DIY'ers have creatively improvised with logs, lumber, pipes, etc. Just be sure they don't slip and move. I used a chain hoist to the ceiling trusses of my garage which allowed me fine control over the tension however you should never trust a mechanical device like a hoist or jack so be sure to have some way to lock it solid if you go that route. Take care.
+DoSumpthin I have a 1980 trans am and there is a little bit of rust inside the frame what would be the best-selling way of getting it out with out taking the frame off the car
Just a kid with a great question! keep on keepin on
Good teacher. Thank you.
Fantastic job sir thank you
I just my K frame a year ago. I could not afford to pay anyone. I'm not a mechanic and don't have the tools. I a woman that can do anything thing cuz it is all in common sense. so I got access to all the tools and did it in a little over a month pretty much buy myself.
I have a daughter in law with a very similar outlook. If another human can do it, how hard can it be? That is one Hell of a healthy outlook. If it is not working now, I can not possibly make it any worse.
Yep, people that tell you otherwise are either in the business or just plain jealous!!
You rock!!
Farina Marcina yea no shit read my comment you nitwitted bonehead. Maybe the acetone fumes are getting to your pea sized brain again you wanker
and what if what it bolts to is gone ? rust sucks
How did you protect the inside again ?
he used the force
fredriktaaje After installing on the vehicle I ended up applying a coating inside the frame. It comes in a can with very long tubes that insert into the openings around the frame and subframe. The ends of the tubes have nozzles that spray out in all directions. How well does it work? I have no idea. It's a crappy old car but at least I gave it my best huh? :) Take care.
Good job.
Nice man,you did a really nice looking job homie
I need to get some rust job done on my van...
That bed liner holds moisture in, don't do it you'll be sorry
I need your help
Nice job
Came out awesome! Good work , thanks
nice fix that should last a good bit.
Nice job I'm happy to see you went ahead and just cut all the bad out. Now do you think the heat May have warped anything went welding it?
Heard these sealers seal water inside
Dude you sound like the guy from regular car reviews lmao
andy favela A dubious honor.
Hello I need an A frame for my Toyota. can anybody tell me another name for it. ? I can't find dat name anywhere on the net smh. Thanks
Engine cradle
Engine cradle
Ok thanks. I had found it
Also, I never knew you could be at two places at once. lol. If ya get it. ha. I'm terrible at jokes.
good job, regards from Russia
good job
wait a damn minute. You sound too much like the guy on The Ammo Channel. Are you that guy?
good video
Need to no about the rear
Down vote for the word reasonable. Who the hell has a sandblaster, air chisel, and a welding machine in their house?
LANOLIN
My 2004 Pontiac grand prix super charger i got new now 15 yrs later. Driving in new England .my mechanic told me tohday this sep will be tbe last inspection sticker . He told me due,to the subframe rotted to look for another car . Im going to have autobody SHOP look at it second opinion .lol.... this,guy is,one of tge original chop shops in my town . Il see what he has to say. Giving the fact that the car runs like new 212.000 miles i know the car. The rot is in the rear of the car .
yep I knew it. Your the ammo channel.
It never accrued to me to use brush instead of a rattle can. Lol
I know that voice! I hope your KGKT hasn't rusted too...
God damn veggies slicer
1:50 "the next layer" well thats your problem right there thats why she is rusting 2 layers stacked poorly ... did you call japan and bitch?
This guy has a bit of a lower voice then the guy from ammo channel.. So no it is not him. I would know.. I wear isolated headphones.
Everyone thinks they have the best way in the comments..I laugh so hard,why would they even be here if they knew the best way.
dude you go through all that to get rid of rust and i see 2 old ass bold rusted to crap saved in the spot they came from sandblast them fudgers and grease them holes ahhh dam it lolololol JHC
john foden Good eye. I stuck those bolts in there just to keep the undercoating paint from getting in the threaded holes. You're a riot!
no my friend No rusty stuff no head starts : O )
pop pop pop pop pop
Best stuff in the world for Rust: KLEAN STRIP GKPA30220. Kills the Rust and keeps it from returning.
It's called focus, and you aint got it.
chacho...xaxareco...
Wow I was looking for a good repair for my tailgate bus, but not sure this repair job isn't worse than my rusted Shi**
macro focus.
pack it full of bondo undercoat sell
this is fuckin g'eeed
Those are really shitty welds