Let's play | New Fender Mexico Player Series | Thomann
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- What has changed? How do the new pickups compare to the older Fender Mexico series? Let's play old vs. new and find out!
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Interesting bits and pieces:
0:26 Introduction
0:43 New specs | Talking
0:50 Logos
1:13 Fretboard and Neck
1:42 New Pickups
1:54 New Wiring
2:22 2-Point Tremolo
2:53 New Colours, Shapes and Pickup Configurations
3:45 Setup for today
4:16 Playing Starts
4:20 New Fender Player Series Stratocaster | Playing | Neck Pickup
4:46 Old Fender Standard Series Stratocaster | Playing | Neck Pickup
5:18 New Player Series | Playing | 4th Position
5:34 Old Standard Series | Playing | 4th Position
5:50 New Player Series | Playing | 3rd Position
6:03 Old Standard Series | Playing | 3rd Position
6:20 New Player Series | Playing | 2nd Position
6:30 Old Standard Series | Playing | 2nd Position
6:43 New Player Series | Playing | Bridge Pickup
6:56 Old Standard Series | Playing | Bridge Pickup
7:08 Wiring | Talking
7:30 Bridge Pickup; Tone on 10 | Playing
7:43 Bridge Pickup; Tone on 7 | Playing
7:53 Bridge Pickup; Tone on 4 | Playing
8:02 Bridge Pickup; Tone on 1 | Playing
8:13 Bridge Pickup; Tone on 7 | Playing with gain pedal
8:20 Bridge Pickup; Tone on 7 | Playing with two gain pedals
8:40 Goodbye
9:05 Jamming over backing track | both guitars
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I'm TOTALLY digging that Aztec Gold Strat in the background!
Best videos on YT. I’ll be driving from UK just to see Thomann in September! Can’t wait 😊
I prefer the clarity and dynamics of the new pickups. The sound is now more what I associate with a Strat. And it is always easier to use a tone knob to reduce the high frequencies a bit instead of trying to get more high frequencies from the guitar when the tone knobs are already on 10.
YEAH THATS GREAT FOR YOU BUT I HAVE PLAYED A LOT OF STRATS AND WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT HANK MARVIN SOUND ON THE BRIDGE PICK UP AND MY STANDARD GETS REALLY CLOSE TO IT APART FROM ALL THE OTHER GREAT SOUNDS :)
@@sing60s you can't just yell at people like that and end your statement with a smiley face.... cmon
@@athphil I'm not yelling, just forgot to turn cap locks off. SO SHUT UP AND GET A LIFE .
@@sing60s yikes
you should they are tonerider pickups.
The standard is a character of its own! The crisp, clear sound of the player strat can't be ignored. But the meat of the standard is still nice.
It’s better.😜
Kris is just an amazing guy, he helped me loads 2 years ago at thomann, lots of amazing energy from him.
Nice presentation! I was amazed by the difference in P/Us! The new one is so much better on all counts! Love everything about it... including the glossy fingerboard!
Been following Thomann for almost 2 years and there is no shred of doubt that Kris is one hell of a player! 🤘 And a great video as always🥰
Thumbs up. Mine just arrived yesterday, and man it is hot. Very very comparable to my 2009 USA lefty Fender Stratocaster. Basically, it’s an American Standard Stratocaster just with a Made in Mexico on its neck. A very beautiful tone, I cannot emphasize enough just how awesome this Player Series guitar plays and sounds. And at just under the price of an American made one. Rumor has it, it has nearly all American made components from the wood, to the pickups, and even the bridge is a fulcrum. Exactly the same bridge that is on my 2009 USA Stratocaster. Mine is a Lefty Arctic White with a beautiful Maple neck and fretboard.
The new Player Strat sounds so much better, it's unbelievable :o
It doesn't.
Yep, it’s pretty awesome.
The old Mexican ain’t in the same league.
Old one is much warmer to my ears.
pickups in the old one are ceramic(not alnico) and they are imidietely more muddy, p90-ish like. I change them to some decent Tonerider alnico-s and now sounds ...huh,...better :)
I only know when I had $ to buy a mim, I went home with a Squier cv60s instead 🙋 (mim had ceramic pickups, Alnico on the cvs
Great review. Love it when people actually let you hear the guitar not running through distortion.
Makes my head hurts when there are "review" videos and they go straight to distortion with no clean tone demos.
Bought a Player Strat around two years ago and a Player Telecaster a month ago. Both are great. Strat was on sale and Tele was used, but new condition. Together they were less than the lowest priced American Tele, so the value in fantastic. I have been a fan of the Mexican line for years and the newest ones are even better. You can't go wrong.
I bought one of the first Player strats in town last year. I was trying to find one of the last MIM standards, but the sales guy at the store recommended I order the new Player instead as they have improved the standard. It's true. So glad I waited. It's got a brighter and hotter bridge pickup and really responsive mid. It took a couple of months to get it but it was worth it.
Player Strat is outstanding
Unbelievable chops, great video. Definitely a big improvement and that 22nd fret makes a big difference to lots of people. Well balanced, this is a great PRS CE and S competitor at a better price point.
yeap and if you notice all guitars that are man to a similar strat even the G&L never sounds like a fender strat. Having said that PRS sky guitar are not bad but the price are you kidding me
I'm assuming you mean SE, the PRS CE is a $2000 guitar
@@edwinmartinez9787 Tokai built SE Series but Cort did too
Very good Demo as usual Kris and the comparison between the old and the new is really worthwhile. The new pick-ups are long overdue with the new ones sounding more clear and more bright than the old .... much more like a Strat should sound in fact.
I bought one of these guitars about 2 weeks ago. It's such a great buy. Fender did a great job with this guitar.
I bought one as well, 12 years ago so, I think. A lot of guitar for the money.
I think the new one's sound is brighter than old one's. I'm thankful for your video.
I actually laughed out loud at Kris' "Save yourself the "Shutup!" comments". 😂 What a funny guy.
I bought yesterday a Fender Strat Mexico Ltd PF - and I love it so much!
Amazing tones the new Fender Player Series
I prefer the clarity of the new pickups and that new satin finish on these necks. The old ceramic pickups weren't bad, but they are a little too hot for what I'm looking for.
It’s good that Fender offers left hand versions of the Player series Stratocaster and Telecaster (I have one of each and they are very good guitars). Wish they would offer lefty versions of the Vintera and Performer series.
So true. Left handed players very often get a rotten deal in terms of choice.
@@hgostos If we are wishing about things I wish All left handed people learned to play right handed, or if they are really good like hendrix, at least learn to play a right handed guitar left handed. But it would be much better if you learn it the RIGHT way
A friend of mine recently passed. I was able to purchase his wine red (amazing color) mim Standard from his family. I hated the ceramic pickups but, I was able to teach myself to solder in some pure vintage 65’s (less than $100). I also used a small piece of excess wire from the new pickups to jumper a wire from middle pickup tone connection to bridge. Of course, you’re Strat May not be as special as mine but, anyone can get a used Standard and watch some TH-cam solder tutorials. You’ll save a few hundred bucks in the process.
Sorry to hear of your loss Scott.
Changing the pickups in the old MIM really improves the tone IMO and learning to do your own soldering is a great idea.
//Andy
Best review of these new Fenders on TH-cam. 👍
Loved the chops on the bridge pup demo.
I have a Fender Tele MIM Satin (2012), which is my best playing guitar, and I'm planning to buy this year the Strat Roadhouse Deluxe MIM at your store. Nice review!!
This channel is gonna get really big, i can feel it coming. The quality is just top notch, Kristóf is a really great guy it seems, and if you guys keep doing this, this channel will probably grow as big as (if not bigger) the Anderton's channel. I love both channels so i'm not trying to attack anyone, but man you guys are entertaining.
Keep it up, its already going great for you guys!
Also i'll probably visit thomann soon so i will tell you guys that in person aswell :)
U sound gay as fuck
Man, awesome playing!
Just ordered the blue one. I love the neck on my mexican tele and a bridge humbucker on a strat interests me a lot
These new MIM standards are what the American Strats used to be.
Indeed: pickups are quite similar with the old American standard ones, same pots, same selector, same machine heads, impeccable fret job and excellent trem too: unbelievable value!!! For once, good job Fender!
Instablaster.
Totally agree. I don't own one myself (yet), but know two people who own this very guitar. It's absolutely gorgeous and top quality. Really no need to buy an American made twice the price.
Yup very much like the older american standard
Yep I used to have a ‘97 American Standard and this new Player Series is like having the exact same guitar. Fender has upped the game considerably.
The old pickups sound more "crunchy" and y like, but, the tone for the bridge pickup is really cool
When it comes to MIMs I always find them used on Craig's for 300-350max upgrade the pups and hopefully it's a keeper. USA standards on the other hand finding a used one for 700 is the way to go as well. 👍
I'm slow but I made it. I bought a Player Strat and Tele. Love them and it is indeed a lot of guitar for the money. I'd do it again. Thanks Kris!
Haha! Luckily guitars don't run away. Nice to hear you like the guitars. They do feel great to play.
//cheers, Kris
Good move - fender need to work on the low/hi balance ..lows are weak - great cleans on the highs - great demo - Thanks
It´s a lot better than the previous standart as it sounds with more definition output and a great opportunity to have a true fender stratocaster for a reasonable price
On this demo (I don't know what the tone settings were) I preferred the old standard on the 5th position, but the clarity was great on the player series. Overall, I think you can always scale it back a little if you think it is too bright. If the sound is to dull, or muddied on the other hand you can't give your guitar that much more clarity. 4th position the Player Strat was the clear winner. The middle, I kinda liked the chunkiness of the old Mexican. Overall, I liked the Player. I think it sounds much better.
Best description of the changes that I’ve seen,,👍
I'm really liking the tone (even the up full bridge pu!) of the new Player series. Would have been cool to hear it on a MAD gain sound though (alla Yngwie) just to see if it "could". haha
If you are looking for a new Strat, get this one. I bought one 2 months ago after first noticing the one he's playing on this video (Tidepool) in my local music store over 4 months ago. I researched it and then finally went in and held it in my hands. All I can say is this new model plays like butter. The medium-sized frets are perfect for pulloffs/hammers and the neck is so smooth. I run mine through a Boss GT-1 that plugs into the sound system and I keep my tones around 7~ish on my Strat. It sounds great.
But now theres the player plus, huge upgrade
Im late to the party. Just bought my first Fender Player HSS. Awesome as we all know. I also have 3 first generation Squire Classic Vibes. They are every but as good IMHO. Thanks!
Great comparison! While the Player’s Alnicos certainly sound more classic and chimey, I’m among those who actually prefer the warmer and louder ceramic pickups in the MIM Standard. That said, having a bridge tone control is very long-awaited! 👍🏻🎸
Hello Chris, Thank You for sharing an informative video on Fender Tone and volume management. I recently for a fender Mexican player strat Maple with SSS Config. This is the first time I am experiencing a fender instrument. I am quite delighted to have it and ordered it online from a well-reputed site. I have a quick query. I am a bit concerned about the instrument I got and here is my observation regarding its Volume management. I feel that it sounds low on volume. At volume, 1-3 it's barely audible, 4-5 a little audible between 6-7 it's satisfactory and at 9-10 it gives a considerable output. I am connecting my guitar with amp directly. My amp is Marshall 15CD Series 45 Watts. If I plug my old strat Aria STG series at 3-4 it gives the output what Fender gives at 8-10. The bottom line is if i have to play for practice it has to be between 6-7 minimum or 8-10 while playing along with backing tracks. I wanted to know this is the nature of a fender product/pickups or something else is wrong with my new guitar. I would appreciate if you can please advise.
A huge improvement over the older pickups... especially if you play clean. The older ones sound murky, crunchy, and chunky in comparison to the new ones. I guess it depends on your style of music/playing...
This is a lot of value for the money
At first I was really shocked, because I recently bought an American Special Strat. But I bought it because of its Jumbo frets and a RW fingerboard. Fortunately - for me - the new Player series only has medium jumbo frets.
Got that new player series! Have trouble staying away from it.
Subscribed! Very good presentation!
Thanks!
Really nice video . Sounds great
The green color look amazing
Both sound good. I need to go play one and see for myself. I hope I prefer the new model.
Tried both. Bought the new player series. Lovely guitar. Sounds just like a Strat should. The pickups and smooth trem sold me.
I guess I'm getting old and maybe my ears are starting to go but I have the mim standard and i think it sounds amazing. What you have to remember is every guitar is different and I must of tried at least twenty strats before I chose the one I did, even up to £2000. And I chose the one I did because I felt it sounded and played the best. I'm not knocking the new player but the will all play different. But thanks for the demo.
GRAY TAYLOR I agree Gray. The amp has a lot to do with it also as it can compensate for quite a bit.
I agree with you. I love how the pickups sound in the new Player Strats, but I have been playing my MIM Strat for over 5 years now and I wouldn't trade it in a heart beat. Ceramic pickups are different and I grew to really enjoy them over time.
I bought this with a Marshall Code 50 and am in love
Great review. New ones are so much better. I played one today. Will buy it tomorrow. Thanks for the review.
You're welcome - glad you enjoyed them! Solid guitars.
You guys need to have Kris do more stuff. Really likeable dude and great player. He's one of your best "assets".
Agree absolutely. A heck of a guitarist and a really nice guy. His job description `Thomann Guitar Ambassador' describes his role very well and Thomann need to make even more use of him. Communicators of his standard aren`t too plentiful !
yeah he is definitely numba wun … really though, phish numba wun all time
Dudeman DudeBro haha! That's cute!
Definitely agree. The guy is actually enjoyable to watch play.
I agree with Marcus below: If you have a Strat now just keep it. The new ones sound good.
Sound is subjective for sure. This is the second video I've seen between the Standard and Player and for me I liked the the beefier sound of the Standard PUPs better. The new ones sounded weak. This surprised me since I thought I would like the sound of the new ones better.
Yep, definitely like the sound of the new Player series better. May have to get one of those!
I played both and the new series really is worth checking out. I think it is an improvement.
//Andy
The only thing I personally change on my Mim strats is the pickups.
I play old school tube clean sounds like tweed bandmaster, tweed bassman, etc and i like vintage or at least alnico pickups over the ceramic ones that come stock.
Now for more dirty tone all the time the ceramics are probably better or let's say there decent .
I just like the "clean" tone edging towards Grindy and i like to swap out the ceramics.
But they are good for alot of people .
That color is sick.
The new Pickups are so much better and the new color is a killer. Greetings from Austria
Hi from Germany!
I just received my maid in Mexico Stratocaster with a humbucker in the bridge. I can't find a single flaw on this guitar. Near perfect setup. I was actually shocked. This is a quality instrument. I've owned American stuff and I'm big on buying America, but I just can't complain on this purchase.
The MIM pickups sound like theyre the ones used on the Squire affinity = Good sound, but still not quite there and a bit raspy on the high end.
New player pickups sounds so much cleaner.
I have the older MIM but I changed out the pick ups to Texas Special single coils! Still loving it! The tremolo bar is that still a screw in or is it a pop in like the American Standard series? Great video, thanks!
Sweet video. New guitar sounds pretty good. What was that first song played on the old black strat? That was a really cool song.
Actually it (the seafoam strat) is referred to as special edition with maple fretboard seafoam strat and goes for about 599. I wondering how it compares to the player series and the new MIM player series.
It kinda depends on the amp. The new pickups are very clean and clear but through a Marshall. Through a Fender it would probably be quieter and would have more treble. The old pickups are hotter and and maybe that’s better for some people. I have my MIM strat and it’s great I use a lot of fuzz and overdrive so the old pickups would be better. I played the new player series and the only things I don’t like would be that replacement wood for rosewood, weird frets, and some of the guitars feel like it’s a guitar but not something you can... bond with. SOME of them feel like they were just put together. It just depends on how you are looking for and after the long comment I like the MIM better.
Nice comparison!! In this case I will take the old one which is better tone.
Shades of Zoot Horn Rollo for a few moments there, nice.
You should of compared a MIM from the 80’s to a newer model. I had one from the 80’s and it was terrible, bought a 2015 MIM and it’s amazing. Night and day difference hands down.
It would be amazing if you could do this same comparison with the new player series vs the made in Mexico deluxe series!!
Manuel Vásquez yes me too. Wondering which to get.. new player series or the deluxe. Obviously the deluxe is 12 inch fretboard radius compare to 9.5 on new player and different pick ups.
The new players Strats are the same guitar are the older American Standard Strats..everything from the hardware to pickups..simply brilliant its the perfect Strat
Ok sounds good
Would be awesome with a Tele player series video too!
The old Std sounds so much more aggressive!
Usually I can't discern much of a difference in these types of videos, but the new player series sounds so much better. Glad I have one.
I liked the fact that you showed the dots on the EDGE of the fretboard......hardly any reviews ever show these . As I get older and my vision declines having these dots really clear becomes more and more important !
That's such a ridiculous thing to worry about. Literally every guitar ever made has side markers for frets.
Nope . Not ridiculous at all if you think about it a bit more deeply........allow me to help you .
Most guitars have fret markers at the edge of the fretboard ( by no means ALL as you asserted) but the QUALITY of them varies ENORMOUSLY .
For example , on my Taylor 214ce , the markers are very subdued and don't really stand out.......put them in a dimly lit bar especially with 70yr old eyesight , and they dissappear.......literally !!!
Black dots on a maple fretboard stand out really well .
Ibanez think that this issue , that you have labelled " ridiculous " , is important enough to install glow-in-the-dark markers on some of their guitar models.......I wonder who understands more about guitar construction , Ibanez or you ?
I think , if you want to gun down someone's comment , it's best to THINK first , go for your " gun " second .
Have a nice day.
Glad they put alnico magnet pickups in these. I've played a fuck ton of older MIM strats and I always felt the ceramics were just trying to emulate that fender chime when they could have just put better pickups.
22 frets vs 21 on the old MIM. The old pickups sound too muddy for crunch, but I prefer them for heavily distorted stuff.
I like the new bridge (it's the one thing I'd like different on my MIM); both sets of pickups are a compromise to the sound I'd like (in different ways), would like to hear them through a more familiar amp; the dedicated bridge tone control seems a better idea to me. On balance a step forward, but not enough to temp me to swap mine.
Any guitar tech could rewire the tone pots for you, shouldn't be an expensive job. Or, if you're confident with a soldering iron, wiring diagrams are readily available on the internet.
Hey Kris, do you give classes!!?? Your playing is really awesome man! I bought the Player 3 tone burst strat and I absolutely love it. Sounds, feels and looks great. Lots of bang for the buck imo
For the record I'd like to mention that is this video the one which help me decide to change the stock pickups of my mexi standard for some Pure Vintage 65, in 18 days i will have them. I need in my life the kind of clarity Alnico's give. My mim is my baby, but it's time to upgrade it.
This, after Reading a lot of people commenting that the ceramics are good enough, but i am sure, i want the clarity of this kind of pickups. Please someone tell me if i am wrong consumist now.
Hi! Is the Player one on the light or heavy weight side? Thank you very much"
I still prefer the original mim ceramic pickups, they just have enough bass and grit to play a huge variety of tones, I've occasionally considered swapping them out for bareknuckles, but then realised I'm just gravitating back to the same tone.
Someone recently summed them up as an odd variant on P90's rather than traditional single coils, which neatly sums them up.
As for the tone knob now effecting the bridge, surely the original idea was that tone was an adulterated single coil, without any bleed due to the associated pots.
The new pickups sound a bit ice-picky compared to the previous versions.
So the new trem... how much of an improvement is it and how does it stack up to the G&L dual point trem?
The new player series Its more dynamic Sound and more Stratty than the MIM standard and has A 2-point tremolo bridge and 22 frets and tone Control for bridge pickup
Do you prefer Player sss stratocaster or Deluxe Roadhouse sss stratocaster? (For the strokes or Kings or leon) thnks
Will I gain something by changing the microphones player series for the 4noiseless or the fat50?
My 2013 MIM strat has alnico 5 pickups and sounds nice!
Are those the stock pickups?
//Andy
Does anyone know if the the fender (sea foam green) special run strat by GC has the same body type as the Player series Strat? Feels different to me than the Standard Strat- especially the neck. I believe the electronics are the same as the Standard, but to me, the neck feels different on that paricular moded.
An excellent video and some nice playing as well. The new Player sounds brighter than the older MIM strat. I ordered a Player series HSS model only today. Fender appears to be on a winner with the Player series
how do you like the humbucker in it?
@@jordanpratt3821 l love the humbucker actually. Can't fault it at all.
@@ShaunStClair-nx3xy I was curious because I got the player jaguar.It has a humbucker in the bridge,and I couldn't get along with it.They prob used the same one I figure.
@@jordanpratt3821 The Strat and the Jaguar may well use the same humbucker. You could perhaps email customer support at Fender about your dilemma, and then see what might be suggested
@@ShaunStClair-nx3xy well, I changed the pots ,and the hb not long after I got it.I love it now.Could always do that with the strat if need be.If I get it.
And that is why Fender is still at the top of their game. Making tools for the musician to study, work and collect.
Just bought a plus top version and its miles better then the old version with lots more standard strat part included on it!
The nice thing about all strats is the parts are interchangeable. A lot of peeps like those old Mexican pickups. They aren’t as bright as American standard pups.
Aesthetically the new fender MIM looks really stunning. However, the pickups from the old fender Mexico are a gem for me.
I don't like them. Ceramic stuff, kind a hot, but dull for me.
I like both. And have different uses for each. I will say this though, the playability and feel of my 13 year old blk mim is superb...I'm a lefty, I was lucky to find this particular one. The sound is mystical and special. When I pick up my other fenders with alnico pickups, they are great for certain fendery sounds, super awesome, but with my 13 year old Stratocaster I play a more rock-ish type of sound, and in a recording you can't tell it's a Stratocaster!!!
Besides, nowadays, with all the tech, and pedals, one can get pretty much any type of sound!
But the cool & neat thing about it now (for me at least) is having to add very little to a guitar (like the old days) and get THE sound! :-)
And here Chris has demonstrated both types of sounds nicely, apart from being an incredible guitarist himself, and making both guitars speak, the guitars sound very different indeed...
Nice sound on the new one
I am yet to see or hear one of the players series that I don't love, well done! Bridge tone, Alnico pickups, and spaghetti logo. What else could you want?
On point!
I ordered one in 3 tone sunburst yesterday. It’s going to be a long 2-3 business days
This or Godin Session? kinda confused which one to get
Btw, i still olay my MIM powerhouze strat cuz it sounded better than the American, whih sounded flat and muffled...?