Liberalism Ancient and Modern (Millerman PRO Reading Group)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2019
- Reading and discussing the preface and first two chapters of Leo Strauss's Liberalism Ancient and Modern, "What is Liberal Education" and "Liberal Education and Responsibility." Includes an excerpt from Alexander Dugin's "Notes on Thought."
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"A state of universal drabness." This has actually happened for the reasons you have enumerated.
Thank-you once again Mr.Millerman for another very helpful reading. As one other has already observed,
Strauss's recorded voice is hard to take and distracting to concentration, while your baritone is happily quite pleasant to the ear as is your erudition is to the listener's mind.
Great lecture Michael
30 minutes in..... when you mentioned civilisational relativism and brought up Spengler (who is a massive influence on me personally) I have always felt he was describing the relationship between cultural "particulars" if you want to look for cultural or perennial "universals" if found that the Traditionalists school of Perennial Philosophy (Rene guenon, schuon etc) is a great addition.
That's for this. I'm not smart enough to read Strauss on my own and his funny voice put me off listening to his lectures.
20 minutes in, and I feel like I'm learning a lot.
I'm getting a lot out of your work. I really appreciate it. Nietzsche may be the step grandfather of fascism, but Giovanni Gentile is its proper Father. You are my window into Dugin, I am enjoying what I'm learning. You would think the multi-polar world would gain more traction in a city like Toronto. I had arrived at a similar conclusion in my own thinking before stumbling upon your work, and by extension, Dugin. Looking forward to digesting more of your work.
Thanks for bringing up Spengler. That reminded me I had him in my backpack and kept forgetting to read him.
Did you read him yet?
@@SlugSage hopefully not
Forgot to read your spengler
Hey Michael how you been?
Just got the nofication of your latest video.
Looking forward to watching it tonight!
Greetings from the twin cities.
I know the shit you went through with your PhD... my own was less nasty, but nasty in a different way. I know well the mark of Cain the academy marks any scholar who is either of the right or addresses thinkers and ideas on the Right.
Regarding this book, my favourite chapters are 7 and 8...... especially 8 where Strauss offer his most concise and forward defence of Aristotelian Political Science.
Marx and Nietzsche did share some things, which is the anti-religious sentiment. You could say the same with Machiavelli and Hobbes. They are all humanists at base. This is what I believe Strauss means by "liberalism", more than liberalism itself, which is but a form of humanism. Then he calls it modern to distinguish.
That's where I believe they tend to go wrong. Liberalism didn't fail, it succeeded. If you postulate every man as the measure of all things, and then try to create a difference between the elite and the rest of the people, it is contradictory, and bound to implode. Either the elite take over, or the people do. So that is where Marx and Nietzsche differ. The first is a democrat, who wants to go over liberalism, while Nietzsche is more going backward towards an elite that has lost its basis of credibility by rejecting religion, which is of the people.
The clash was inevitable at some point between the two, and it is not the elite that can win, because of the loss of credibility. Religion is what allowed the old aristocracies to have credibility. As soon as they want to be above it, they loose their privilege, and the people do not recognize them anymore, or they wrongly believe they are part of the elite, depending on who talks.
So I am not sure you can say it failed. It's like a person sawing the branch they are standing on. Falling is not a failure, because if they had failed to saw the branch, they would not have felt. So it is a success for what it was worth. Now humanism will go on without liberalism, probably to a democracy of sort, what people call populism. It won't be about excellence, except excellence in adopting the latest value of the week.
Yes as bad as liberalism is, it was one step up on consumer populism distracting itself with the everyday churn.
The difference between the modern liberal and the classical notion of the liberal/liberality reminds me of Jungers anarch vs anarchist.
One seeks to free himself from constraints and is thus enslaved by his war with them. The other recognizes the constraints as a natural part of the game which he can dismiss at any time and is thus truly free.
The master statement of the argument for liberal education that is here given to Leo Strauss is J.H.Newman's Nature of the University. Read it!
This was fantastic thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! In case you want to continue on the topic, I have several other free videos on Strauss, including the full first lecture of this course millerman.teachable.com/p/introduction-to-leo-strauss
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Liberals assume that it is possible to establish a direct link between the idea of the existence of universal values and Kant's categorical imperative
I'm assuming by the term "liberal education" what is meant is soemthing like a classical education, learning the foundational great texts of our civilisation. Not learning liberal political ideology
Correct
Liberal education is an education for a free (liber) man. Not an education in liberal ideology, which has more akin to Nietzsche's "slave morality" than it does to the magnanimity of genuine freedom.
@@millerman thank you for clarifying 🙂 excellent talk as always
There is not such thing as the Western culture. Spain and Catholicism emerged first and collapsed after the 30 year war between Protestants and Catholics. In Catholic tradition, there was a very different view of modernity and the Spanish Empire was, indeed, very different in secularization and economy with respecto to Protestant countries. The winning modernity is liberal and Protestant that survived and adopted the name "The West".
SPENGLER not SPANGLER. Thanks.