I think rationality at BM is just a fancy term for, "The ends justify the means." And some of it even borders on plot armour. Kunigami gets subbed because he didn't score not because his play was "irrational" but Isagi's irrational ball-stealing doesn't get him subbed. Same with Kaiser. Even Noa's decision to play Hiori had the threat of not playing in the PxG match. So, as long as they win, it's rational. Furthermore, even Noa's thought to "test" Kaiser is "irrational". It's almost as if he's running an experiment to see weaknesses of "super rationality." Kaiser only seems irrational because there's very little output that's going with his decisions. Challenging Isagi is rational because he needs a proper rival in order to show his value and secure a bid away from BM. They only seem irrational if/ when he doesn’t outplay Isagi
100% agreed with this, I think "the ends justify the means" is a great way of putting it. And I'd love to see if Noa is trying to test extreme rationality in Blue Lock, that would put a lot what we've seen so far in perspective.
I fell like the reason why these irrational and disfunctional teams play good is because they all are competing with their own teammates, it causes them to evolve faster, while also using their rivals and pane sand stepping stones to become better. An almost selfish kind of teamwork
That's a great way to put it, I completely agree! I'm very curious if Noa will acknowledge that by the end of the arc as well, would be interesting to see if Blue Lock can challenge his worldview.
You talked about this like an epic villain, and I'm all for it. You honestly sound like someone who is examining the games to make your own takeover, and it's perfect.
Most underrated blue lock channel in the community. Most of the BLLK videos are just recaps, powerscaling, chapter reviews, or short theories but your analysis' are a breath of fresh air.
That's really kind of you, I'm very happy to hear that! It's a lot of fun for me as well, since I feel like there's nobody else looking at Blue Lock the way I do
Honestly, I agree. Isagi showed that "numbers" aren't the only things that lead to a positive result. While Kaiser, kept interfering with the result that isn't based on his number.
This was a rlly good in depth analysis. Not many content creators go in depth abt the character work and story building over the arcs but you did extremely well subbed
It’s like one of their riddles where everyone’s thinking with their most rationality. They could probably score more if they worked together, not all the time, but passing to each other on desperate times. But the blue lockers also have an advantage to selfish selfish plays. Without blue lock, BM wouldn’t have beaten Ubers. The entire match, Kaiser never one definitively beat Lerenzo, and BM alone only relies on him to score.
This is all spot on, that's what I find the whole situation so fascinating! It's a really intriguing paradox and I'm curious in what direction it will develop from here. I'm not sure if I totally agree that Isagi only stole the ball when his teammates weren't in a good position, at least not in Barca - my read of the situation there is that Kaiser's chances for a second goal were quite good actually, but that Isagi offered an alternative means to score, not that he fixed a bad position. This might be a case that we're biased because we're not really privy to Kaiser's pov most of the time.
Man ur analysis on Blue Lock is so refreshing. I get so tired of the back and forth with every TH-camr having a fan club approach with every player is either a football god or trash. It’s great to see someone actually looking into what the narrative is trying to tell us.
Well, BM’s chaotic selfish play also has helped them score, but also ruined them a few times. Like in the Uber came, when Kaiser scored, he stole the ball from Isagi, who passed to Yuki, who was being blocked by Don. If Kaiser wasn’t selfish, they wouldn’t have scored and would have gotten hit on the counter. But also, the fact that Isagi has to act like Kaiser is another defender makes things harder, as he has to find a way to get past the defence, and his own teammates. Like when Isagi got open, and might have scored, but his shot got struck by Kaiser too, causing it to be a bad shot.
awesome video! engaging and beautifully presented- putting my exact thoughts about kaiser and Isagi's development into words. i wonder how bastard munchen will react to isagi's and hiori's irrational gamble actually paying off lol. more flowers to isagi- the kaiser/ness freakout panels are gonna be great. subscribed :)
Thanks so much, I'm really happy to hear that! Would be interesting for sure if Isagi's gamble is discussed in these terms as well. Either way, I'm fairly certain that Kaiser's perceived irrationalty will have repercussions for him before PXG starts
Another W video! I always did find it pretty funny that BM is the most irrational team while having the rational philosophy lolol it was interesting hearing you talk about how Isagi has gotten more rational while Kaiser has been more irrational with each passing match since with the chaos on the team I didn't even think about it like that! I wonder if Kaiser's irrationality getting more drastic will finally catch up with him in PXG 👀
Thanks so much Serena, glad you enjoyed it! I do indeed suspect that is the way Kaiser's character will go, towards a massive fall from grace in PXG - with maybe a redemption at the very end. He might also lose Ness for PXG as a lot of people are speculating, which would really prove that his grip on the team is gone.
To me rationality in BM and to some degree in Blue Lock itself is “survival of the fittest.” The ‘rationality’ closely resembles what would happen if you turned animals loose in nature. Chaos is inevitable , entropy, all that, and chaos is in fact a ‘rational’ reality of life. What matters is determining how to survive and thrive under those conditions-self preservation and all that. I suppose ‘rationally’ speaking, whoever survives is ‘winning.’ Kind of like how people say history is written by the victors. [I think the way Kaneshiro thinks is fascinating lol.]
That's very interesting, those kind of ideas are definitely important throughout the series. And totally agreed on Kaneshiro, he's such an interesting author! also really want to read some of his other works in the foreseeable future, if only to get more of a sense of how his mind works.
The duel rationality/irrationality is kind of what BM is all about. Noa is all about logic, but logic has terms to it. Numbers wise, a team that had 11 Kaisers would seem like the most stacked team ever. But, due to the fact that they wouldn’t pass to one another, it wouldn’t be a good team.
Phenomenal analysis as always. It's all too common for people to just ignore the genuinely good themes and storytelling in Blue Lock so I'm glad you're shining a spotlight on it.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate hearing that! I completely agree on that front, in my opinion Blue Lock is a phenomenally well-written series - and yet I feel like those aspects are generally under-appreciated in fan discourse.
Where everyone is talking about isagi, kaiser and irrationally I want to bring rin into this entire playstyle his is being irrationally and destroying the competition. For me it brings questions like if rin being at the top with an irrational playstyle make it rational? How would you deal with that? Does it disprove Noel's and apart of Isagi's ideals? It sparks up more debate and I find it interesting
That's actually a really interesting question! I hadn't given it too much thought before but I would say it's very likely that that will be addressed in the PXG match. It's clear from Ness' backstory that there is still more to be said about rationality as a concept, so I might follow up on this in due course.
In all fairness this isn't really new to Blue Lock, since it's a general trend that the most dysfunctional team usually wins: that was pretty much the rule in all matches of the second and third selection, and arguable for the U20 as well.
At least the way I see it, calling something rational partially springs from personal bias (that people often simply don't question their assumptions or practices) and partially, like I claim for Blue Lock, it's a rhetorical strategy, that people use terms like logical and rational to justify their own behaviour. That's why I think the clash between Yukimiya and Isagi is so interesting, because Yukimiya really hits the nail on the head when he tells Isagi that his appeals to rationality are just a thinly veiled trick to force his will upon others. I hope that makes sense!
In my mind, Isagi is a lot more rational then Kaiser. Firstly, Isagi only ever steals the ball when his teammates aren’t in a good position, or when they’re away from the goal. Kaiser has literally stopped Isagi from scorning when he literally could have in that very moment. Isagi is also on with making an assist. He’s a striker, but he is ok with passing is he realizes he can’t score or needs help.
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I think rationality at BM is just a fancy term for, "The ends justify the means." And some of it even borders on plot armour. Kunigami gets subbed because he didn't score not because his play was "irrational" but Isagi's irrational ball-stealing doesn't get him subbed. Same with Kaiser. Even Noa's decision to play Hiori had the threat of not playing in the PxG match. So, as long as they win, it's rational.
Furthermore, even Noa's thought to "test" Kaiser is "irrational". It's almost as if he's running an experiment to see weaknesses of "super rationality." Kaiser only seems irrational because there's very little output that's going with his decisions. Challenging Isagi is rational because he needs a proper rival in order to show his value and secure a bid away from BM. They only seem irrational if/ when he doesn’t outplay Isagi
100% agreed with this, I think "the ends justify the means" is a great way of putting it. And I'd love to see if Noa is trying to test extreme rationality in Blue Lock, that would put a lot what we've seen so far in perspective.
I fell like the reason why these irrational and disfunctional teams play good is because they all are competing with their own teammates, it causes them to evolve faster, while also using their rivals and pane sand stepping stones to become better. An almost selfish kind of teamwork
That's a great way to put it, I completely agree! I'm very curious if Noa will acknowledge that by the end of the arc as well, would be interesting to see if Blue Lock can challenge his worldview.
Oh yeah. Like the anti-combo of Barou and Isagi in the 2nd Selection
You talked about this like an epic villain, and I'm all for it. You honestly sound like someone who is examining the games to make your own takeover, and it's perfect.
Hahaha love it, "I don't mind becoming the villain who devours your light!"
Most underrated blue lock channel in the community. Most of the BLLK videos are just recaps, powerscaling, chapter reviews, or short theories but your analysis' are a breath of fresh air.
That's really kind of you, I'm very happy to hear that! It's a lot of fun for me as well, since I feel like there's nobody else looking at Blue Lock the way I do
Honestly, I agree.
Isagi showed that "numbers" aren't the only things that lead to a positive result.
While Kaiser, kept interfering with the result that isn't based on his number.
Exactly! I'm curious if this will ever be explicitly addressed, but I think it's clear either way that numbers aren't everything in practice.
This was a rlly good in depth analysis. Not many content creators go in depth abt the character work and story building over the arcs but you did extremely well subbed
Glad to hear you enjoyed it, there's definitely more like this coming up!
that was awesome... i love the switch in dynamics and kaiser's descent into madness. I love the dude but seeing him falter is so satisfying
Thanks so much! I totally agree, Kaiser is such a fantastic villain that way. Can't wait to see him absolutely fall apart in PXG!
It’s like one of their riddles where everyone’s thinking with their most rationality.
They could probably score more if they worked together, not all the time, but passing to each other on desperate times.
But the blue lockers also have an advantage to selfish selfish plays. Without blue lock, BM wouldn’t have beaten Ubers. The entire match, Kaiser never one definitively beat Lerenzo, and BM alone only relies on him to score.
This is all spot on, that's what I find the whole situation so fascinating! It's a really intriguing paradox and I'm curious in what direction it will develop from here.
I'm not sure if I totally agree that Isagi only stole the ball when his teammates weren't in a good position, at least not in Barca - my read of the situation there is that Kaiser's chances for a second goal were quite good actually, but that Isagi offered an alternative means to score, not that he fixed a bad position. This might be a case that we're biased because we're not really privy to Kaiser's pov most of the time.
I loved this video, you explained really well the way this arc is building up to be one of the greatest in sports manga
I'm really glad to hear that! And totally agreed, it's really exciting how this storyline has been building up over the course of the arc!
Man ur analysis on Blue Lock is so refreshing. I get so tired of the back and forth with every TH-camr having a fan club approach with every player is either a football god or trash. It’s great to see someone actually looking into what the narrative is trying to tell us.
Thanks so much, I'm really happy to hear that!
Well, BM’s chaotic selfish play also has helped them score, but also ruined them a few times. Like in the Uber came, when Kaiser scored, he stole the ball from Isagi, who passed to Yuki, who was being blocked by Don. If Kaiser wasn’t selfish, they wouldn’t have scored and would have gotten hit on the counter. But also, the fact that Isagi has to act like Kaiser is another defender makes things harder, as he has to find a way to get past the defence, and his own teammates. Like when Isagi got open, and might have scored, but his shot got struck by Kaiser too, causing it to be a bad shot.
awesome video! engaging and beautifully presented- putting my exact thoughts about kaiser and Isagi's development into words. i wonder how bastard munchen will react to isagi's and hiori's irrational gamble actually paying off lol. more flowers to isagi- the kaiser/ness freakout panels are gonna be great. subscribed :)
Thanks so much, I'm really happy to hear that! Would be interesting for sure if Isagi's gamble is discussed in these terms as well. Either way, I'm fairly certain that Kaiser's perceived irrationalty will have repercussions for him before PXG starts
Another W video! I always did find it pretty funny that BM is the most irrational team while having the rational philosophy lolol it was interesting hearing you talk about how Isagi has gotten more rational while Kaiser has been more irrational with each passing match since with the chaos on the team I didn't even think about it like that! I wonder if Kaiser's irrationality getting more drastic will finally catch up with him in PXG 👀
Thanks so much Serena, glad you enjoyed it! I do indeed suspect that is the way Kaiser's character will go, towards a massive fall from grace in PXG - with maybe a redemption at the very end. He might also lose Ness for PXG as a lot of people are speculating, which would really prove that his grip on the team is gone.
To me rationality in BM and to some degree in Blue Lock itself is “survival of the fittest.” The ‘rationality’ closely resembles what would happen if you turned animals loose in nature. Chaos is inevitable , entropy, all that, and chaos is in fact a ‘rational’ reality of life. What matters is determining how to survive and thrive under those conditions-self preservation and all that. I suppose ‘rationally’ speaking, whoever survives is ‘winning.’ Kind of like how people say history is written by the victors. [I think the way Kaneshiro thinks is fascinating lol.]
That's very interesting, those kind of ideas are definitely important throughout the series. And totally agreed on Kaneshiro, he's such an interesting author! also really want to read some of his other works in the foreseeable future, if only to get more of a sense of how his mind works.
The duel rationality/irrationality is kind of what BM is all about. Noa is all about logic, but logic has terms to it. Numbers wise, a team that had 11 Kaisers would seem like the most stacked team ever. But, due to the fact that they wouldn’t pass to one another, it wouldn’t be a good team.
Phenomenal analysis as always. It's all too common for people to just ignore the genuinely good themes and storytelling in Blue Lock so I'm glad you're shining a spotlight on it.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate hearing that! I completely agree on that front, in my opinion Blue Lock is a phenomenally well-written series - and yet I feel like those aspects are generally under-appreciated in fan discourse.
Aged like fine wine.
Man was this video delicious! Insta-sub!
Thanks so much! It's always great when my analysis actually hold up haha
Where everyone is talking about isagi, kaiser and irrationally I want to bring rin into this entire playstyle his is being irrationally and destroying the competition. For me it brings questions like if rin being at the top with an irrational playstyle make it rational? How would you deal with that? Does it disprove Noel's and apart of Isagi's ideals? It sparks up more debate and I find it interesting
That's actually a really interesting question! I hadn't given it too much thought before but I would say it's very likely that that will be addressed in the PXG match. It's clear from Ness' backstory that there is still more to be said about rationality as a concept, so I might follow up on this in due course.
I wonder how this team almost win every time
In all fairness this isn't really new to Blue Lock, since it's a general trend that the most dysfunctional team usually wins: that was pretty much the rule in all matches of the second and third selection, and arguable for the U20 as well.
Question so what does this mean, I’m the real world sense, that perceived rationality is never truly rational
At least the way I see it, calling something rational partially springs from personal bias (that people often simply don't question their assumptions or practices) and partially, like I claim for Blue Lock, it's a rhetorical strategy, that people use terms like logical and rational to justify their own behaviour. That's why I think the clash between Yukimiya and Isagi is so interesting, because Yukimiya really hits the nail on the head when he tells Isagi that his appeals to rationality are just a thinly veiled trick to force his will upon others. I hope that makes sense!
In my mind, Isagi is a lot more rational then Kaiser. Firstly, Isagi only ever steals the ball when his teammates aren’t in a good position, or when they’re away from the goal. Kaiser has literally stopped Isagi from scorning when he literally could have in that very moment.
Isagi is also on with making an assist. He’s a striker, but he is ok with passing is he realizes he can’t score or needs help.
Kaiser would rather lose a match then let isagi outplay him
@@thedreaminghooper yes, very true.