Because the loser can't play defense at all. He scored that many points because be scored in garbage time when we were losing. He scored 101 points while having negative +/-. That should be impossible
@@rockerrock328The Sharks are not good at defense at all. Hopefully Karlsson’s defensive skills will improve on the Pens. The Sharks lack of defensive talent is why the goalies are getting worn out and allowing so many goals. It’s not about just one player, it’s the entire team that lacks in defense. It’s just non-existent for the SJS.
@@kreggie891if Karlsson hasn't learned to play good defense in the first 14 years he's been in the NHL, he's not going to learn it ever. He's already got his playstyle set in stone.
As somebody who was watched the sharks his entire life it was losing Pavelski that sank the ship. Dude was the heart and soul of the sharks.Couture is a great player but I’ve never gotten the sense he’s the same kind of leader. I will always wonder what would have happened if we let Karlsson walk and kept Nyquist and Pavelski
Pavs staying would not have mattered. Doug Wilson did that awful Karl trade when Pavs was still on the team. The team was going downward anyway with Wilson in charge.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I disagree on pavs staying wouldn’t have mattered. The sharks always looked light on scoring forwards since Pavelski left and Karlsson’s contract made fixing that nearly impossible. Not once have I ever thought “ya know the sharks could really use another offensive defenseman”. I think to say Pavelski wouldn’t have mattered greatly underrates how valuable he was to the sharks in terms of both leadership and scoring. In my mind that is the exact mistake DW made. I agree the decline of the sharks was inevitable but it’s too much a of a coincidence to think the same year Pavelski leaves the sharks fall off a cliff and his new team shocks everyone by going to the finals. I’m not saying the sharks would have won a Stanley cup but they certainly would have made the playoffs again and we all know anything can happen if you make the playoffs.
@@monkeychife When a GM starts trading 1st rounders for rental players the team either wins the cup or they start to decline. Giving out 8 year contracts is generally very foolish and Doug Wilson did that too and Hertl got one from him when the team was already awful. The team would be better with Pavs but they were not going to win a cup anyway so you should rebuild. Most teams waste their cap room on purpose when they have no shot at a cup win when they could trade that cap room for prospects instead.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I would argue the sharks would have gotten better value trading Pavelski than trading karlsson in addition to better production on the team. In addition to that the sharks would already be free of his cap if we gave him the rumored contract. The lower value and better production is far easier to trade and should by all logic equal better return. Even if the sharks only got one extra playoff run out of pavs staying it wouldn’t matter because the sharks didn’t have their 2020 pick anyway. You can’t really say take neither either because the sharks were expected to be a good team in 2019-20. To be fair there are still assets to play and it’s to early to call what Karlssons return fully is. However, unless the penguins pick works out amazing it’s looking like more of a cap dump. I would love to be wrong but time will tell.
@@monkeychife When you are rebuilding you do not want to be giving out contracts like that with the hopes to flip them. Most players who make over 6 mill have no trade clauses that only hurt the team that signed them in trying to trade them for more later. Had Karl just loved it in SJ he could have refused every trade which would have been even worse for the sharks as a team. Giving any player 8 years is usually foolish but there is exceptions. Karl was 29 or something and Pavs was 35 at the time and the sharks were going to decline no matter what. Had Karl left Doug Wilson would have been made fun of for trading 2 firsts and a 2nd for a rental player. Most players around 35 decline too. Pavs first stars contract he could only be traded to 3 teams. That is not the kind of contract you expect to trade him to profit. That is the type of contract you plan to win the cup with him there. "You can’t really say take neither either because the sharks were expected to be a good team in 2019-20. " Winning the cup is the goal not being a good team who can't even reach the cup again. With the new Hertl contract the delusion that the sharks could even be a winning team was way over. A smart GM would have tried to trade Hertl to one of the 3 teams he could be traded to or convince him to waive his no trade clause. Before Hertl was even making 6 mill a year he still had so much leverage in the deal that he put he could only be traded to 3 teams. It is not as bad a GM agreeing to that when they are trying to win the cup with them. As of his new contract the 8 mill is just wasted. The Sharks could have done a cap dump trade where they trade that 8 mill for two 3rd round picks or two or 1 2nd rounder or even 1 first. and they could get prospects like that all 8 years. Hertl is still a point every other game type player but I would rather get two 3rd rounders from another team at minimum each season instead of Hertl who will not help the sharks win anything.
The end of an era. I miss seeing people prime Jumbo Joe, Brent Burns, Patrick Marluea, Logan Couture, Evander Kane, Joe Pavelski, Tomas hertl, Timo Meier, Eric Karlsson, Vlassic. Man I miss seeing them dominate the league for years.
That was already the beginning of the end. The real golden era was the Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Clowe, Boyle, Murray, Vlasic, Nabokov days. That team was my childhood and so fun to watch, only team to truly adopt san jose and make it a hockey town for a while. Might not be the ones that got to the cup but they dominated the west for a decade just never had that final push. Cant even blame them for going all in 2016 since everyone knew it was the only chance to have jumbo and patty hoist the cup together but the damn pens got in the way.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants absolutely nobody is taking on that contract and if he retirres we still eat the cap. At least he was a sharks legend for a while and its sad to see where he and us are at now
Yes, that was the decision that killed the Sharks. Our doom can literally be traced to that one decision. Because no matter how good he is on the ice, Pete DeBoer said he was even more important in the locker room. During road to the Stadium Series documentary you saw some of that. Us losing our Captain, our leader on & off the ice, doomed us. We have yet to recover.
Every Sharks fans were devastated when we let Big Joe leave, Pavs had became a favorite. We also didn't want BOTH EK and Burns on the same team... We knew those contracts smelled spoiled back then but we were grabbing onto the hope to win it all for once. Getting a cup between 2016-2020 would have excused sacrificing the following 5+ years to mediocrity. Getting the cup to Jumbo, Patty, Pickles, Big Joe, Cooch and so on that they worked so hard for about a decade in the making... But here we are, cupless... soulless... years later after risky decisions that didn't pay off in the end. The only thing we can look back on is how entertaining the Sharks have been able to be for a good decade and a half of playoffs battles. Great hockey was played by great players, including hall of famers.
Should hurt much more when the local Detroit kid 1 pick down wasn't taken by Detroit. That local kid is challenging for the Norris this year. To be honest, I was mad when the Wings took Zadina as I thought he would go No.3 that year and almost fell to the Nucks at No.7. Glad the Wings took him and we got one of the Hughes brothers instead.
The Sharks also spent 3 seasons not acknowledging they needed to rebuild. DW’s last season with the team was a wasted year while he was out sick and Joe Will did nothing as interim GM. Grier is finally clearing cap space and acquiring future picks.
Yeah that last Hertl contract really set back the very necessary rebuild. The team would be much farther along with the assets they could have gotten for him at the 2022 TDL.
I have been a Pens' fan for a long time and can remember when they were a pretty bad team, so as a fan, I can relate to what the Sharks' fans are going through this year. I do remember the Washington Capitals' first season was a nightmare as they only won eight games, so I hope that the Sharks will not be quite that bad.
I don’t believe the team will struggle this much the whole season. Couture and Barabanov will be back eventually, and hopefully they can help Hertl to score more. This roster also has 5 players 24 and under. And many other unproven/adjusting players. Both of their goalies have shown excellent play before, so eventually, they could make some return to form. But yikes this team is bad.
@@DarkLobster69 Yes, I agree. Couture and Barabanov are good players and I think the Sharks will be better once those two players return to the lineup.
Giving up 20 goals in the last 2 games should tell you all you need to know about the Sharks.. They're now known as the team you "get right " against..
@@jere.nurkka mmm🤔 nor sure, they'll win between 10-17 games.. I'm calling for 13 wins.. most of them will come after ( if it happens) the coaching change though.. teams always get a bit of a burst and refocusing after a coaching change.. but the outcome of the season will stay the same
Hey man, I think your videos are great and you structure them well -- if you saved up a bit more for a better recording microphone I think you could really do some big numbers in the hockey YT scene. Not that this one grates my ears or anything, just think it could make a big difference overall with engagement
really ever since pavelski left they've been at the basement hell they couldn't even make the playoffs with an expanded format in 2020. And ofc the nail on the coffin hit even more with jumbo leaving in 2020 and burns in 2022. I was never much of a sharks fan but certainly has it been weird as hell seeing them do this poorly.
Time for SJ to check the corners of the globe for overlooked players currently working non-traditional hockey markets. Yeh it's an ugly situation, but so were the 74-75 Washington Capitals and '75-'76 Kansas City Scouts, both of which eventually won cups, (albeit as the NJ Devils, in the Scouts' case). Also, try to pick up some pieces off waivers.
Step 1 : still a lot of vets to pick up in free agency. Step 2 : get any NHL decent players other team wanna get rid of for non illegal reasons. Step 3 : pounce on waivers Step 4 : make calls to all important stats leaders in pro European leagues. Step 5 : call young retirees. Enjoy winning maybe 5 more games.
I don't think it's just a player personnel issue. It's like the Sharks players are completely tuned out. The game vs the Nucks where Kuzmenko accidentally ran into Kappanen is the perfect example. Not a single one of the Sharks players noticed or bothered to come and check on their injured goalie. It was a Nucks player who checked on the Sharks goalie to see if he was alright. Entire Sharks team seems to be mindless zombies right now.
For a good period of time the Sharks were an absolutely terrifying team to see your team play against. They were stacked from the 1st line down to the primary goalie and they still couldn’t get it done. At one point SJ’s team was as stacked as 2012-2014 LA Kings and still just couldn’t do it. Hell at one point, all three California teams were top cup contenders, now they are all shells of what they use to be.
i’ve grown up with the sharks. and i’m 15 now and i will always be a sharks guy but for this year and the years to come i think ima watch a team that isn’t bad for right now. Teal for life 🦈
At this point it really doesn't matter. Everyone knows they are in a full re-build and a couple of years of tanking will only bring some amazing prospects to the team...If they draft well. Odds are in three years time (maybe four) the Sharks will be competing again.
In the next 3 years, the Coyotes have 34 picks, & the Blackhawks have 28 (many of which are 1st through 3rd rounders). The potential of 3 1st rounders in 2024 for the Sharks is nice but after that, they only have 23 picks, 2 more than if they just had their stock 21. To date, their front office has not been creative to take on bad contracts for picks. They only have two remaining decent players to remove in Hertl & Couture but who is going to take on those long-term $8m+ contracts especially, when the Sharks can only retain on one more? With a middle of the pack current pipeline, this team is going to be bad for a very, very, long time.
Pretty good analysis. If i understand the cap situation correctly, I think the Sharks only have around $4 Million in cap space despite parting ways with the likes of Pavelski, Kane, Martin Jones, Burns, Meier, and EK65. Hopefully I am wrong. Not that they need to pick up an expensive player or anything like that. However, with cap flexibility, they could at least accumulate a pick or two by taking on an overpriced vet, or by facilitating a three-way trade, they way Arizona has done.
Thanks to those trades they could potentially have loads of cap space next season. Unless they go full sharks and offer Labanc an 8 year 8m dollar extension
Yeah the Sharks have around $27 million coming off the books in free cap space this summer along with potentially 3 first round picks so as dark as it is for the team right now, it will eventually start getting better once the season is over.
@@danynumero6 Thanks for the elaboration. If they buy out Pickles and are able to trade Couture while eating a big chunk of his salary, that would be great.
@@marinrealestatephotography I honestly hope that they keep Couture, but I completely agree about Vlasic. I love the player he used to be, but he is just a shell of his former self now and his contract just looks worse every game. I can definitely see them buying him out after this season.
@@danynumero6the value of Couture is in his playoffs performance numbers. Hopefully he can find a spot where he gets another chance at a cup. He thrives when he's in the playoffs. I will miss that because I don't see the Sharks in the mix for a few more seasons.
I've watched hockey for many years and I've never seen (or even heard of) a team as bad as this season's Sharks team. Not even the 75 Capitals were this bad. That team still won 8 games out of 80. Even the expansion Sharks team was better than this version. I'm amazed the Sharks managed to take the Avs to OT in their 1st game. As a Nucks fan, I watched the entire 10-1 Nucks-Sharks blowout. Had the Nucks not took pity on the Sharks in the 3rd period and didn't even bother to challenge the lone Sharks goal (there could've been goalie interference on that goal), the real score would be something like 12 or 13 to nothing. It's like watching the Nucks play an ECHL team. I swear the AHL Sharks farm team would be more motivated to play the Nucks (or Penguins last night) than the NHL Sharks team. It's ok to lose, but when you don't bother to even show up. When you don't even noticed your own goalie getting hurt and the other team is more concerned about your own goalie than your own team, there's some serious problems here. They really need to a coach firing or GM firing or something or else this will get out of hand. The Sharks have no compete in them right now. They need to try something desperate.
The Karlsson trade is what did it…with the Sens, Sharks, and it’s probably going to do it again with the Penguins. Trying to extend a Cup window past when the core players are north of 35, especially by overspending on a veteran north of 30, is almost always a death knell. Also, some of the best value that can be had in the NHL is from veterans in their last couple years (so, Pavelski). Letting Pavelski go because of the Karlsson contract was when it was obvious it was over.
yup....he successfully destroyed the team. Imagine being the biggest change in one season is you getting the contract and Pavs leaving. Every major player like Couture, Hertl, Meier and the rest of the core group stayed...yet - they went from being the top 3 team in the Western Conference to last. One season. The difference, the EK contract and Pavs.
They lost so much depth just to re-sign Karlsson. There's no way that 2019 WCF team falls off so damn hard with the same team minus Karlsson. The window was definitely still closing, but I think it would have just closed last season had they kept everyone and let Karlsson walk.
@@MrVisde I agree and I was attacked every damn time that I mentioned it in the Sharks' Reddit group lol. Their window was definitely closing, but if they let Karlsson walk and kept their depth and picks, I don't think the fall would have been as quick. They probably would've been a wild card team for two more seasons.
No shit dummy. They all went to contenders, and if you think firing the GM in year two of a rebuild is the right move this just shows how little brain cells you have.
Good video and yeah Doug Wilson turned the team into a dumpster fire. He even gave / approved that awful Hertl contract when the team was already terrible. The vlasic contract being 8 years. Releasing Martin Jones for playing bad and having 6 years of buyout money being wasted on him not with the team. That the sharks owner refused to fire him. Trading Josh Norris and what turned into #3 overall for a Rent A Player to get Karl. I remember when that trade happened I thought no single player in the NHL could have made that sharks team a cup winner. Instead of karl it could have been crosby or mcdavid and I doubt it would have made any difference. I am very happy Doug Wilson is gone.
To me, the craziest part of the karlsson trade to SJ was that no one expcected the sharks to be the loser in that scenario Your biggest problem was not investing in a reliable goaltender The last quality one that the sharks had was nabokov and then after that it kinda became a revolving door Martin Jones, unfortunately, couldn’t make up for when the defense started to crumble and he got exposed really badly
@@zaneps151 Trading a 2 firsts for a rent a player and you do not win the cup and one of the picks becomes #3 overall is insanity. Wilson did not even top 10 protect the pick like the Pens just did with the sharks. Jones regressed personally and it was not just the defense getting worse.
@@jeffhembd9471 It was because he helped the sharks stay a winning team for a long time and one of his sharks teams was 2 wins away from a cup win. The problem was he was trading 1st round picks for rental players and doing silly cap moves trying to hold on to keep the sharks a winning team when the team should have been rebuilding.
The San Jose Sharks still haven't fully recovered from their 3-0 choke against the Los Angeles Kings in 2014. Unless something changes, the Sharks might have to go through a whole decade without making the Stanley Cup Playoffs in order to make the postseason again.
The issue is i dont see either of these two first round top guys playing in the NHL they will likely do what logan cooley did wait for some vets to come in they both will play at BC all four years if the sharks want to build what they had before I'd draft a defenceman this draft the bottom teams like Arizona and Chicago are overloaded with good defensive prospects so is st.louis and Nashville this upcoming draft you should be looking for a shutdown defenseman and a he offensive moving one to secure your d core in the future. I would also try and trade Hertl and duclair to calgery and try and get their first round pick.
I can tell you're pretty high on Musty lol. I don't think people realize how good Mukhamadullin is though. He was the main asset in the Timo trade and deservedly so. There's also Zetterlund who's been a bright spot this season and their 2nd rounder that very well may be a first if NJ makes the ECF. People say the Sharks lost that trade a lot and I couldn't disagree more. They may very well end up with 4 medium-high impact players from that. Also the fact people still don't know Gushchin is crazy to me. Dude is so skilled and has an amazing shot and looked amazing in the two NHL games he played last year. He could a be a huge piece in this teams future.
Made up phantom 5 minute major call in the first round, questionable offside challenge in second, and handpass OT goal in CF. The refs and bettman basically let them cruise to the conference final without winning a single round in 2019. Screw the sharks, I have zero sympathy for that hobo hockey team. I hope they go 0-81, they deserve every humiliation they get.
Our doom can literally be traced to the Pavelski decision. Because no matter how good he is on the ice, Pete DeBoer said he was even more important in the locker room. During road to the Stadium Series documentary you saw some of that. Us losing our Captain, our leader on & off the ice, doomed us. We have yet to recover. And Joe is still going strong.
The hockey Gods cursed the Sharks for the hand pass overtime goal in the conference finals against St. Louis. The Sharks lost every game to end that series and haven't been in the playoffs since. In reality the Sharks should have done a complete rebuild 3-4 years ago. Doug Wilson left an absolute contract mess that Mike Grier is trying to fix. Too many 8 year deals were handed out for years. Couture, Hertl, Burns, Vlasic, and Karlsson are all on 8 year deals.
I left the Sharks fandom with no regrets... Doug Wilson and cronies led to this moment, and I absolutely knew he would. Nearly everyone who could have kept this team special, left, and took success with them. "#CuplessInCali" should be branded on Wilson's forehead. It is one thing to lose, that comes with sports -- it is another for the San Jose Sharks front office to not care about the team, who they play on the ice, and even the fans; who they continue to price gouge and patronize year after year. They stopped getting my money nearly a decade ago. They do not deserve yours. As for the poor kid who was treated to seeing the first 10-goal blowout, I hope they buy you season tickets and a jersey to any of the other California squads.
Signing an known injured player, who by the way no one thought it was a good idea at the time, was the death of this team. Just as they were the first two years of their existence they are now saddled with bad contracts for the veterans and numerous AHL players. Pin this on Wilson's ego and the blind faith of the ownership group. But hey at least we got to see 95% of Blackwoods highlight reel saves of the season already against the AVs.
Half the league misses the playoffs. Yes, the Sharks are having an epically bad season, so far. C'mon. It was so much fun when a club under 500 could beat a better seed.
I used to think and be "Sharks for Life", too... but they are a bad investment of money, time, emotion, and effort. They get a glimmer of success (2016-2019), but this franchise needs a major house cleaning to be worthwhile. Until then, they do not deserve your adoration.
I’ll make this simple and quick. Signing Karlsson to an $11.5 million deal and letting the heart and soul of the team, Pavelski, walk away. Thats what happened. Not even gonna watch the video.
Still bet they love that little cute Trinitron message to F, the Golden Knights now, huh 🤡 now you get to stay in the basement for years. While VGK stays competitive for decades
Huuuuuge thing. You finish a few too many sentences at times with the same exact upward inflection in your voice which can drive listeners nuts. Example of it 0:25 As recently, as five season aGOOOO 0:43 Such an incredible RUUUn 1:03 nineteen ninety NIIne 1:14 Able to mainTAAAIN a competitive team, bringin in the right gUYs. When they last made the postSEAsOOOn....finished the season with 101 POINTS...29th in the en AICH LLLL It tapered off a bit thankfully but be on the lookout for that kind of thing!
The sharks just never had a true bonified leader. Even in their cup run. Pavelski coulda been if they had aloud to him to. Even when they gave him the C it just didnt feel sincere even though he deserved it.
Pavs dived for? Are you legally blind? Imagine being up 3-0 in game 7 and 2 players on your own team push a guy without the puck on accident when they do not have to and causing him to bleed and get hurt. If I was a knights fan I would have been so upset at both of them since neither needed to touch Pavs in the first place. If 2 sharks did that to a knights player, I would be fine with a 5 min major. Some of you should go back to the videos of that game and see almost no knights fans in the comments are even mad at the 2 knights players for doing that to Pavs when neither needed to in the first place. Plus during that same series the refs gifted the knights game 2 I believe and no knights fans ever bring that up.
@@michaelcraig1650we have the one thing you don't have a Stanley cup banner the only reason why you got that power play because he dived you will never get to troll with that power play ever ever again its because of that diver bs a new rule was put in place
Your videos could do with some more detail and graphics. Videos about downfalls should articulate more specific issues and organizational issues. It’s good, but it could be much better if you expanded upon the topic
The Sharks fell apart when they hired a guy as GM with no experience. A guy that was able to use his black privilege. That's what you get when you go woke and need to be inclusive instead of getting people who are best qualified
It isn’t Mike Grier who’s at fault, he’s the one who’s trying to turn it around. Doug Wilson on the other hand is the guy who decided to throw around 8 year deals like nothing. He gave half of the salary cap of the sharks to three defensemen all in their mid thirties (Karlson, burns, Vlasic) which didn’t pan at to anything and Vlasic’s contract has to be on the worst in the entire league since he is beyond washed. Grier is trying to unfuck the situation Doug Wilson put the Sharks in.
Its still early, very slim, but anything could happen. Like look what STL did on their cup run. Not saying they can go all the way, but something could happen mid way down the season
The fact that Karlsson put up 101 points on that sharks roster is simply mind boggling
Because the loser can't play defense at all. He scored that many points because be scored in garbage time when we were losing. He scored 101 points while having negative +/-. That should be impossible
What have you done? Exactly whose the real loser SHARKS FAN. Imagine@@rockerrock328
@@rockerrock328The Sharks are not good at defense at all. Hopefully Karlsson’s defensive skills will improve on the Pens. The Sharks lack of defensive talent is why the goalies are getting worn out and allowing so many goals. It’s not about just one player, it’s the entire team that lacks in defense. It’s just non-existent for the SJS.
@@kreggie891if Karlsson hasn't learned to play good defense in the first 14 years he's been in the NHL, he's not going to learn it ever. He's already got his playstyle set in stone.
@@kreggie891😂😂😂😂😂 hes a failed wing player with no place to put him but right defenceman. Even his national team knows this. Hes a bum
As somebody who was watched the sharks his entire life it was losing Pavelski that sank the ship. Dude was the heart and soul of the sharks.Couture is a great player but I’ve never gotten the sense he’s the same kind of leader. I will always wonder what would have happened if we let Karlsson walk and kept Nyquist and Pavelski
Pavs staying would not have mattered. Doug Wilson did that awful Karl trade when Pavs was still on the team. The team was going downward anyway with Wilson in charge.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I disagree on pavs staying wouldn’t have mattered. The sharks always looked light on scoring forwards since Pavelski left and Karlsson’s contract made fixing that nearly impossible. Not once have I ever thought “ya know the sharks could really use another offensive defenseman”. I think to say Pavelski wouldn’t have mattered greatly underrates how valuable he was to the sharks in terms of both leadership and scoring. In my mind that is the exact mistake DW made. I agree the decline of the sharks was inevitable but it’s too much a of a coincidence to think the same year Pavelski leaves the sharks fall off a cliff and his new team shocks everyone by going to the finals. I’m not saying the sharks would have won a Stanley cup but they certainly would have made the playoffs again and we all know anything can happen if you make the playoffs.
@@monkeychife When a GM starts trading 1st rounders for rental players the team either wins the cup or they start to decline.
Giving out 8 year contracts is generally very foolish and Doug Wilson did that too and Hertl got one from him when the team was already awful.
The team would be better with Pavs but they were not going to win a cup anyway so you should rebuild. Most teams waste their cap room on purpose when they have no shot at a cup win when they could trade that cap room for prospects instead.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants I would argue the sharks would have gotten better value trading Pavelski than trading karlsson in addition to better production on the team. In addition to that the sharks would already be free of his cap if we gave him the rumored contract. The lower value and better production is far easier to trade and should by all logic equal better return.
Even if the sharks only got one extra playoff run out of pavs staying it wouldn’t matter because the sharks didn’t have their 2020 pick anyway. You can’t really say take neither either because the sharks were expected to be a good team in 2019-20.
To be fair there are still assets to play and it’s to early to call what Karlssons return fully is. However, unless the penguins pick works out amazing it’s looking like more of a cap dump. I would love to be wrong but time will tell.
@@monkeychife When you are rebuilding you do not want to be giving out contracts like that with the hopes to flip them. Most players who make over 6 mill have no trade clauses that only hurt the team that signed them in trying to trade them for more later.
Had Karl just loved it in SJ he could have refused every trade which would have been even worse for the sharks as a team. Giving any player 8 years is usually foolish but there is exceptions.
Karl was 29 or something and Pavs was 35 at the time and the sharks were going to decline no matter what. Had Karl left Doug Wilson would have been made fun of for trading 2 firsts and a 2nd for a rental player.
Most players around 35 decline too. Pavs first stars contract he could only be traded to 3 teams. That is not the kind of contract you expect to trade him to profit. That is the type of contract you plan to win the cup with him there.
"You can’t really say take neither either because the sharks were expected to be a good team in 2019-20. "
Winning the cup is the goal not being a good team who can't even reach the cup again.
With the new Hertl contract the delusion that the sharks could even be a winning team was way over. A smart GM would have tried to trade Hertl to one of the 3 teams he could be traded to or convince him to waive his no trade clause.
Before Hertl was even making 6 mill a year he still had so much leverage in the deal that he put he could only be traded to 3 teams. It is not as bad a GM agreeing to that when they are trying to win the cup with them.
As of his new contract the 8 mill is just wasted. The Sharks could have done a cap dump trade where they trade that 8 mill for two 3rd round picks or two or 1 2nd rounder or even 1 first. and they could get prospects like that all 8 years.
Hertl is still a point every other game type player but I would rather get two 3rd rounders from another team at minimum each season instead of Hertl who will not help the sharks win anything.
“Exceed Expectations” for the Sharks this year means not giving up 10 Goals per game
The end of an era. I miss seeing people prime Jumbo Joe, Brent Burns, Patrick Marluea, Logan Couture, Evander Kane, Joe Pavelski, Tomas hertl, Timo Meier, Eric Karlsson, Vlassic. Man I miss seeing them dominate the league for years.
I wish Vlasic would retire or demand a trade.
Dominate? They had the much talent and couldn’t even get a Stanley cup. They’ve always been trash
That was already the beginning of the end. The real golden era was the Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Clowe, Boyle, Murray, Vlasic, Nabokov days. That team was my childhood and so fun to watch, only team to truly adopt san jose and make it a hockey town for a while. Might not be the ones that got to the cup but they dominated the west for a decade just never had that final push. Cant even blame them for going all in 2016 since everyone knew it was the only chance to have jumbo and patty hoist the cup together but the damn pens got in the way.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants absolutely nobody is taking on that contract and if he retirres we still eat the cap. At least he was a sharks legend for a while and its sad to see where he and us are at now
Selänne!
Man that Pavelski decision looks terrible. Super durable player.
The sharks were not going to be good even had Pavs stayed.
Even just from a value perspective, the Sharks would have gotten such a haul for Pavelski in the last few years.
@@DarkLobster69 He would have been worth way way less on the sharks though since his point production would be way lower.
Pavelski wouldn't do a damn thing on this team. Would drag his numbers down. Don't forger he's on a Dallas team that has alot of talent.
Yes, that was the decision that killed the Sharks. Our doom can literally be traced to that one decision. Because no matter how good he is on the ice, Pete DeBoer said he was even more important in the locker room. During road to the Stadium Series documentary you saw some of that. Us losing our Captain, our leader on & off the ice, doomed us. We have yet to recover.
Every Sharks fans were devastated when we let Big Joe leave, Pavs had became a favorite. We also didn't want BOTH EK and Burns on the same team... We knew those contracts smelled spoiled back then but we were grabbing onto the hope to win it all for once. Getting a cup between 2016-2020 would have excused sacrificing the following 5+ years to mediocrity. Getting the cup to Jumbo, Patty, Pickles, Big Joe, Cooch and so on that they worked so hard for about a decade in the making...
But here we are, cupless... soulless... years later after risky decisions that didn't pay off in the end. The only thing we can look back on is how entertaining the Sharks have been able to be for a good decade and a half of playoffs battles. Great hockey was played by great players, including hall of famers.
As a Wings fan, it hurts extra hard to see Zadina be on the Sharks and even more that he's only cracked the 3rd line
I almost cried when we came so close to drafting Zadina.....he was taken one pick before us, we took this kid called Quinn Hughes
As a sharks fan. Everything hurts extra hard
Why does this hurt? He sucks. It should only make you feel better knowing yzerman helped get rid of this trash
In all fairness, he’s been up and down the lineup mostly just to try to find something that works. It’s not entirely on him
Should hurt much more when the local Detroit kid 1 pick down wasn't taken by Detroit. That local kid is challenging for the Norris this year.
To be honest, I was mad when the Wings took Zadina as I thought he would go No.3 that year and almost fell to the Nucks at No.7. Glad the Wings took him and we got one of the Hughes brothers instead.
The Sharks also spent 3 seasons not acknowledging they needed to rebuild. DW’s last season with the team was a wasted year while he was out sick and Joe Will did nothing as interim GM. Grier is finally clearing cap space and acquiring future picks.
Yeah that last Hertl contract really set back the very necessary rebuild. The team would be much farther along with the assets they could have gotten for him at the 2022 TDL.
It's rough being a life-long Sharks fan, man.
It’s rough right now but soon the young players will develop and the team will be good again
I have been a Pens' fan for a long time and can remember when they were a pretty bad team, so as a fan, I can relate to what the Sharks' fans are going through this year. I do remember the Washington Capitals' first season was a nightmare as they only won eight games, so I hope that the Sharks will not be quite that bad.
Get ready those days are coming back soon
@@davidkruse4030 Yes, sooner or later, the Pens will have to be in a re-building mode when the older players finally retire.
I don’t believe the team will struggle this much the whole season. Couture and Barabanov will be back eventually, and hopefully they can help Hertl to score more. This roster also has 5 players 24 and under. And many other unproven/adjusting players. Both of their goalies have shown excellent play before, so eventually, they could make some return to form. But yikes this team is bad.
@@DarkLobster69 Yes, I agree. Couture and Barabanov are good players and I think the Sharks will be better once those two players return to the lineup.
Giving up 20 goals in the last 2 games should tell you all you need to know about the Sharks..
They're now known as the team you "get right " against..
What do you think their record will be at the end of the season?
@@jere.nurkka You tell us
@@Ugly5872 11-64-7
They'll be lucky to crack 20 wins this season
@@jere.nurkka mmm🤔 nor sure, they'll win between 10-17 games.. I'm calling for 13 wins.. most of them will come after ( if it happens) the coaching change though.. teams always get a bit of a burst and refocusing after a coaching change.. but the outcome of the season will stay the same
Hey man, I think your videos are great and you structure them well -- if you saved up a bit more for a better recording microphone I think you could really do some big numbers in the hockey YT scene.
Not that this one grates my ears or anything, just think it could make a big difference overall with engagement
I can’t believe Zetterlund is on the first line he should still be developing
He’s actually looked good this season and improved the 2nd line when he moved down the lineup.
He’s on the 4th line
as a panthers fan, seeing duclaire up there as one of the players under the category of "most won't recognize these names," hurts me
really ever since pavelski left they've been at the basement hell they couldn't even make the playoffs with an expanded format in 2020. And ofc the nail on the coffin hit even more with jumbo leaving in 2020 and burns in 2022. I was never much of a sharks fan but certainly has it been weird as hell seeing them do this poorly.
Time for SJ to check the corners of the globe for overlooked players currently working non-traditional hockey markets. Yeh it's an ugly situation, but so were the 74-75 Washington Capitals and '75-'76 Kansas City Scouts, both of which eventually won cups, (albeit as the NJ Devils, in the Scouts' case). Also, try to pick up some pieces off waivers.
Step 1 : still a lot of vets to pick up in free agency.
Step 2 : get any NHL decent players other team wanna get rid of for non illegal reasons.
Step 3 : pounce on waivers
Step 4 : make calls to all important stats leaders in pro European leagues.
Step 5 : call young retirees.
Enjoy winning maybe 5 more games.
I don't think it's just a player personnel issue. It's like the Sharks players are completely tuned out. The game vs the Nucks where Kuzmenko accidentally ran into Kappanen is the perfect example. Not a single one of the Sharks players noticed or bothered to come and check on their injured goalie.
It was a Nucks player who checked on the Sharks goalie to see if he was alright. Entire Sharks team seems to be mindless zombies right now.
Being a lifelong Cubs fan has not only taught me patience, but humility. GO SHARKS !
For a good period of time the Sharks were an absolutely terrifying team to see your team play against. They were stacked from the 1st line down to the primary goalie and they still couldn’t get it done. At one point SJ’s team was as stacked as 2012-2014 LA Kings and still just couldn’t do it. Hell at one point, all three California teams were top cup contenders, now they are all shells of what they use to be.
Ah yes, another year of my team being trash. Rebuild times are tough, just gotta keep believing
i’ve grown up with the sharks. and i’m 15 now and i will always be a sharks guy but for this year and the years to come i think ima watch a team that isn’t bad for right now. Teal for life 🦈
At this point it really doesn't matter. Everyone knows they are in a full re-build and a couple of years of tanking will only bring some amazing prospects to the team...If they draft well. Odds are in three years time (maybe four) the Sharks will be competing again.
Great content; came here after the 2 10-goal games
Needs a better mic IMO it feels like it was recorded off a laptop
In the next 3 years, the Coyotes have 34 picks, & the Blackhawks have 28 (many of which are 1st through 3rd rounders). The potential of 3 1st rounders in 2024 for the Sharks is nice but after that, they only have 23 picks, 2 more than if they just had their stock 21. To date, their front office has not been creative to take on bad contracts for picks. They only have two remaining decent players to remove in Hertl & Couture but who is going to take on those long-term $8m+ contracts especially, when the Sharks can only retain on one more? With a middle of the pack current pipeline, this team is going to be bad for a very, very, long time.
Smooth out the tone of your voice while narrating. Good video
Pretty good analysis. If i understand the cap situation correctly, I think the Sharks only have around $4 Million in cap space despite parting ways with the likes of Pavelski, Kane, Martin Jones, Burns, Meier, and EK65. Hopefully I am wrong. Not that they need to pick up an expensive player or anything like that. However, with cap flexibility, they could at least accumulate a pick or two by taking on an overpriced vet, or by facilitating a three-way trade, they way Arizona has done.
Thanks to those trades they could potentially have loads of cap space next season. Unless they go full sharks and offer Labanc an 8 year 8m dollar extension
Yeah the Sharks have around $27 million coming off the books in free cap space this summer along with potentially 3 first round picks so as dark as it is for the team right now, it will eventually start getting better once the season is over.
@@danynumero6 Thanks for the elaboration. If they buy out Pickles and are able to trade Couture while eating a big chunk of his salary, that would be great.
@@marinrealestatephotography I honestly hope that they keep Couture, but I completely agree about Vlasic. I love the player he used to be, but he is just a shell of his former self now and his contract just looks worse every game. I can definitely see them buying him out after this season.
@@danynumero6the value of Couture is in his playoffs performance numbers. Hopefully he can find a spot where he gets another chance at a cup. He thrives when he's in the playoffs. I will miss that because I don't see the Sharks in the mix for a few more seasons.
2019 was their year to win it all, but they couldn't get past the Blues. That 2019 team was their best team, better than the 2016 cup final team IMO.
Joe Thornton is turning over in his grave.....and he ain't even dead!😫
I've watched hockey for many years and I've never seen (or even heard of) a team as bad as this season's Sharks team. Not even the 75 Capitals were this bad. That team still won 8 games out of 80. Even the expansion Sharks team was better than this version. I'm amazed the Sharks managed to take the Avs to OT in their 1st game.
As a Nucks fan, I watched the entire 10-1 Nucks-Sharks blowout. Had the Nucks not took pity on the Sharks in the 3rd period and didn't even bother to challenge the lone Sharks goal (there could've been goalie interference on that goal), the real score would be something like 12 or 13 to nothing. It's like watching the Nucks play an ECHL team. I swear the AHL Sharks farm team would be more motivated to play the Nucks (or Penguins last night) than the NHL Sharks team.
It's ok to lose, but when you don't bother to even show up. When you don't even noticed your own goalie getting hurt and the other team is more concerned about your own goalie than your own team, there's some serious problems here. They really need to a coach firing or GM firing or something or else this will get out of hand. The Sharks have no compete in them right now. They need to try something desperate.
I agree with you 👍 There's no team morale
The Karlsson trade is what did it…with the Sens, Sharks, and it’s probably going to do it again with the Penguins.
Trying to extend a Cup window past when the core players are north of 35, especially by overspending on a veteran north of 30, is almost always a death knell. Also, some of the best value that can be had in the NHL is from veterans in their last couple years (so, Pavelski). Letting Pavelski go because of the Karlsson contract was when it was obvious it was over.
Giving up 20 goals in two games is absolutely terrible lol
So many sharks fans were saying he had too many injuries and concussions and he wouldn’t be as impactful anymore. Boy we’re they wrong.
yup....he successfully destroyed the team. Imagine being the biggest change in one season is you getting the contract and Pavs leaving. Every major player like Couture, Hertl, Meier and the rest of the core group stayed...yet - they went from being the top 3 team in the Western Conference to last. One season. The difference, the EK contract and Pavs.
They lost so much depth just to re-sign Karlsson. There's no way that 2019 WCF team falls off so damn hard with the same team minus Karlsson. The window was definitely still closing, but I think it would have just closed last season had they kept everyone and let Karlsson walk.
Wilson was traumatized from losing to those Ducks teams with Pronger and Niedermeyer. He bet on Karlsson when Pavelski should’ve been the priority.
@@MrVisde I agree and I was attacked every damn time that I mentioned it in the Sharks' Reddit group lol. Their window was definitely closing, but if they let Karlsson walk and kept their depth and picks, I don't think the fall would have been as quick. They probably would've been a wild card team for two more seasons.
Fire the front office and ownership. Clearly former players and coaches are experience success on other teams....
No shit dummy. They all went to contenders, and if you think firing the GM in year two of a rebuild is the right move this just shows how little brain cells you have.
The 2019 Blues demolished that entire organization. I've never seen a team that defeated in a non sweep
If your a soccer fan, answer this, who’s worse rn? San Jose or Sheffield United?
San Jose, no question
Good video and yeah Doug Wilson turned the team into a dumpster fire. He even gave / approved that awful Hertl contract when the team was already terrible.
The vlasic contract being 8 years. Releasing Martin Jones for playing bad and having 6 years of buyout money being wasted on him not with the team.
That the sharks owner refused to fire him. Trading Josh Norris and what turned into #3 overall for a Rent A Player to get Karl. I remember when that trade happened I thought no single player in the NHL could have made that sharks team a cup winner. Instead of karl it could have been crosby or mcdavid and I doubt it would have made any difference.
I am very happy Doug Wilson is gone.
To me, the craziest part of the karlsson trade to SJ was that no one expcected the sharks to be the loser in that scenario
Your biggest problem was not investing in a reliable goaltender
The last quality one that the sharks had was nabokov and then after that it kinda became a revolving door
Martin Jones, unfortunately, couldn’t make up for when the defense started to crumble and he got exposed really badly
@@zaneps151 Trading a 2 firsts for a rent a player and you do not win the cup and one of the picks becomes #3 overall is insanity.
Wilson did not even top 10 protect the pick like the Pens just did with the sharks.
Jones regressed personally and it was not just the defense getting worse.
As an outsider looking in it was always a mystery to me how Doug Wilson stayed employed after so many bad decisions.
@@jeffhembd9471 It was because he helped the sharks stay a winning team for a long time and one of his sharks teams was 2 wins away from a cup win.
The problem was he was trading 1st round picks for rental players and doing silly cap moves trying to hold on to keep the sharks a winning team when the team should have been rebuilding.
The San Jose Sharks still haven't fully recovered from their 3-0 choke against the Los Angeles Kings in 2014.
Unless something changes, the Sharks might have to go through a whole decade without making the Stanley Cup Playoffs in order to make the postseason again.
Except that they went to the cup final in '16. I get it, it's just a troll comment
@@scottcalloway4630 Fully recovered is winning it all, bubba.
@@noahkphan The 2019 WCF loss to the St. Louis Blues is the final nail of the San Jose Sharks' mighty underachieving coffin between 1994 and 2019.
Are you Chris Rock? because if Will Smith watches this you have a slap coming.
The issue is i dont see either of these two first round top guys playing in the NHL they will likely do what logan cooley did wait for some vets to come in they both will play at BC all four years if the sharks want to build what they had before I'd draft a defenceman this draft the bottom teams like Arizona and Chicago are overloaded with good defensive prospects so is st.louis and Nashville this upcoming draft you should be looking for a shutdown defenseman and a he offensive moving one to secure your d core in the future. I would also try and trade Hertl and duclair to calgery and try and get their first round pick.
Macklin Celebrini moment
haha it all worked out in the end
I can tell you're pretty high on Musty lol. I don't think people realize how good Mukhamadullin is though. He was the main asset in the Timo trade and deservedly so. There's also Zetterlund who's been a bright spot this season and their 2nd rounder that very well may be a first if NJ makes the ECF. People say the Sharks lost that trade a lot and I couldn't disagree more. They may very well end up with 4 medium-high impact players from that.
Also the fact people still don't know Gushchin is crazy to me. Dude is so skilled and has an amazing shot and looked amazing in the two NHL games he played last year. He could a be a huge piece in this teams future.
Made up phantom 5 minute major call in the first round, questionable offside challenge in second, and handpass OT goal in CF. The refs and bettman basically let them cruise to the conference final without winning a single round in 2019. Screw the sharks, I have zero sympathy for that hobo hockey team. I hope they go 0-81, they deserve every humiliation they get.
Our doom can literally be traced to the Pavelski decision. Because no matter how good he is on the ice, Pete DeBoer said he was even more important in the locker room. During road to the Stadium Series documentary you saw some of that. Us losing our Captain, our leader on & off the ice, doomed us. We have yet to recover. And Joe is still going strong.
and they got rid of hertle now... there is no OG player left except pickles and couture from the good years
The hockey Gods cursed the Sharks for the hand pass overtime goal in the conference finals against St. Louis. The Sharks lost every game to end that series and haven't been in the playoffs since.
In reality the Sharks should have done a complete rebuild 3-4 years ago. Doug Wilson left an absolute contract mess that Mike Grier is trying to fix. Too many 8 year deals were handed out for years. Couture, Hertl, Burns, Vlasic, and Karlsson are all on 8 year deals.
Grier was a weird choice, going from an established GM in Wilson to a first timer can't be too encouraging for fans.
Former GM Doug Wilson trading for and then signing EK was his biggest mistake..lol
At $11.5 per...100% knew it wasn't going to end well.
Pavs was what The Teal needed to transition. Hats off to Grier for even trying to clean up DW's mess.
I left the Sharks fandom with no regrets... Doug Wilson and cronies led to this moment, and I absolutely knew he would. Nearly everyone who could have kept this team special, left, and took success with them. "#CuplessInCali" should be branded on Wilson's forehead.
It is one thing to lose, that comes with sports -- it is another for the San Jose Sharks front office to not care about the team, who they play on the ice, and even the fans; who they continue to price gouge and patronize year after year. They stopped getting my money nearly a decade ago. They do not deserve yours. As for the poor kid who was treated to seeing the first 10-goal blowout, I hope they buy you season tickets and a jersey to any of the other California squads.
Signing an known injured player, who by the way no one thought it was a good idea at the time, was the death of this team. Just as they were the first two years of their existence they are now saddled with bad contracts for the veterans and numerous AHL players. Pin this on Wilson's ego and the blind faith of the ownership group.
But hey at least we got to see 95% of Blackwoods highlight reel saves of the season already against the AVs.
How the wild never had a good offense.
The stamkos kucherov lightning dynasty
The failed lundqvist defense dynasty
I don't understand ... It's a dream location for a professional player.
Half the league misses the playoffs. Yes, the Sharks are having an epically bad season, so far. C'mon. It was so much fun when a club under 500 could beat a better seed.
Will the Sharks even win 5 games this year? Doesn't look like it.
Yes. It might be just barely with this rate. But I think they will.
They got rid of to many talent players 😢 hopefully they’ll get Macklin!
I’ll still follow the team, but holy 🥑 guacamole I’m heartbroken. Sharks for life
I used to think and be "Sharks for Life", too... but they are a bad investment of money, time, emotion, and effort. They get a glimmer of success (2016-2019), but this franchise needs a major house cleaning to be worthwhile. Until then, they do not deserve your adoration.
Now that the season is over, the problem can be revealed. DEI hire Mike Grier. Enough said.
Imagibe if they pick a Yakupov
How does mike Greer still have a job??
Celebrini or Levshunov, not Eiserman.
To your first point though, does anyone recognize many of the players on the Canucks either?
Yes.
Petey, Hughes, Garland, Demko, Boeser, Kuzmenko
Do a similar video about the oilers.
How the caps fought so hard for a cup then faded
How the avs rebuilt a dynasty from the gutter. How the 2009-13 canucks fell apart
The fact they have a horse on the roster is very forward thinking
should've picked Matvei Michkov
I’ll make this simple and quick. Signing Karlsson to an $11.5 million deal and letting the heart and soul of the team, Pavelski, walk away. Thats what happened. Not even gonna watch the video.
They're punishment for the whole Hoffman fiasco
As a Vegas fan this makes me unbelievably happy
So they can't develop anyone???
As long as they win 12 games, I’m good.
Yeah timo meier isn't exactly lighting it up for my New Jersey Devils right now. Nico is hurt and now jack Hughes. Fml
Timo will get there for you, don't lose faith in him.
Still bet they love that
little cute Trinitron message to F, the Golden Knights now, huh 🤡 now you get to stay in the basement for years. While VGK stays competitive for decades
Work on the sing song nature of your speech cadence
Huuuuuge thing. You finish a few too many sentences at times with the same exact upward inflection in your voice which can drive listeners nuts.
Example of it 0:25 As recently, as five season aGOOOO
0:43 Such an incredible RUUUn
1:03 nineteen ninety NIIne
1:14 Able to mainTAAAIN a competitive team, bringin in the right gUYs. When they last made the postSEAsOOOn....finished the season with 101 POINTS...29th in the en AICH LLLL
It tapered off a bit thankfully but be on the lookout for that kind of thing!
Karlson ruined the sharks Hands down
Don't even mention Will Smith lol, good job
Honestly wish mitchkov went to san jose
Joe Thornton disliked this video!!!
The sharks just never had a true bonified leader. Even in their cup run. Pavelski coulda been if they had aloud to him to. Even when they gave him the C it just didnt feel sincere even though he deserved it.
They’ll finish with at least 20 wins bet on it 26-42-14 goaltending will be a bright spot they’ve had a unlucky start don’t sleep
two 10 goal games against already? That's not Unlucky, that's Atrocious.
The Erik Karlsson contract was the demise of this franchise. Karlsson is the most overrated player of his generation
Will smith gonna stay in the NCAA for awhile
They just 10-2 to the pens
The Sharks have always been the worst...now they have the record that reflects it.
You being serious? They have NEVER been good. Sure, they have had "some" talent but they have never been good nor will they be
What a dumb ass comment from a new hockey fan
@@brandonthorpe5869it’s a knights fan they are all like this
Shark Attack!
As a Golden Knights fan This is Karma for trolling us because of a power play that joe Pavelski dived for and a win they relied on Refs for
Refs didn’t knock in 4 in 4 minutes. Bad call yes but you shit yourselves get over it you have a cup and still salty
Pavs didn't dive you fool. Allowing 4 goals on the PK was your downfall.
That wound really cut deep didn't it. Still living rent free in the minds of golden shower fans to this day must be tough.
Pavs dived for? Are you legally blind?
Imagine being up 3-0 in game 7 and 2 players on your own team push a guy without the puck on accident when they do not have to and causing him to bleed and get hurt.
If I was a knights fan I would have been so upset at both of them since neither needed to touch Pavs in the first place.
If 2 sharks did that to a knights player, I would be fine with a 5 min major.
Some of you should go back to the videos of that game and see almost no knights fans in the comments are even mad at the 2 knights players for doing that to Pavs when neither needed to in the first place.
Plus during that same series the refs gifted the knights game 2 I believe and no knights fans ever bring that up.
@@michaelcraig1650we have the one thing you don't have a Stanley cup banner the only reason why you got that power play because he dived you will never get to troll with that power play ever ever again its because of that diver bs a new rule was put in place
Your videos could do with some more detail and graphics. Videos about downfalls should articulate more specific issues and organizational issues. It’s good, but it could be much better if you expanded upon the topic
We were there we know san hozay sharks garbage show sharks fans
The Sharks fell apart when they hired a guy as GM with no experience. A guy that was able to use his black privilege. That's what you get when you go woke and need to be inclusive instead of getting people who are best qualified
Another successful affirmative action hire story.
You both are fools.
They were shaite long before a black GM was hired.
It isn’t Mike Grier who’s at fault, he’s the one who’s trying to turn it around. Doug Wilson on the other hand is the guy who decided to throw around 8 year deals like nothing. He gave half of the salary cap of the sharks to three defensemen all in their mid thirties (Karlson, burns, Vlasic) which didn’t pan at to anything and Vlasic’s contract has to be on the worst in the entire league since he is beyond washed. Grier is trying to unfuck the situation Doug Wilson put the Sharks in.
You know this OP does not know anything about the sharks if he is blaming Grier for what Doug Wilson did.
The Sharks were on top for years . Looks good on them .
Its still early, very slim, but anything could happen. Like look what STL did on their cup run. Not saying they can go all the way, but something could happen mid way down the season