Steven Sanchez "Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace." - Bill Hicks
+invisobill808 no u can't,,,bcoz your govt. has 'Russophrenia' and still thinks it is in cold war and wants to still pursue & 'corner' Russia(probably China too) by estb. a satellite govt... and bag 'Reconstruction & development contracts for 'friendly' corporates soldier lives are just a means to an end for capitalists... its the same ,almost everywhere in the world
31,000 in Afghanistan, but nearly a million (some estimate over that) across the 8 Middle Eastern countries the US is/has bombed over the last 15 years. I think Iraq has had the most civilian casualties, would have to check though. No matter how the numbers are dispersed, it's horrific. When the US does it, we call that something cute like collateral damage.
wizzzer1337 na thats bullshit, alexander conqeured it, the mongols did the timurids did and the mongols did, they only defeated the british and soviets
it ain't bs. You can conquer Afghanistan with ease because the borders are porous because you can just march in but you will lose hold of the country which is undeniable fact that has repeated itself in history
Honest to god, shut the hell up if you've never been in their situation. Its either get killed by the Taliban or get killed by a drone strike. Plus, things aren't any better when you consider the fact that thousands of Afghans are flooding in from pakistan to put further stress on the strained economy. If you had the oppurunity to get away from it all, you'd be a dumbass to say no.
great wall of china lastet pretty long - they built it to keep the mongols out - now the us build one to keep the illegal south americans out - it will hold for some time - the us could use some of it's big army to secure the boarder without a problem - how many service members do you have 1,4 milion or so? way enough to secure the southern boarder
Checking back to say its only 5 mill now. And trump is about to end war with terrorists. This guy Trump is trying his hardest to please all sides. Can at least one democrat give him credit for being anti war?
nope, it was when the russian were over there when it was a pretty good country, but.. u know, some CIA backed terrorist appeared and "liberated" afghanistan
CIA? lol! More like the fundamentalists didnt like the communist approach to Islam and culture in the region. Once the people rebelled against the communist occupiers the CIA intervened with backing for the mujahideen in a proxy war vs the USSR. Lesson to be learned is that no outside influence is going to change Afghanistan. The Soviets failed and now the US is failing. They have to change it themselves with people like the young man at the end of this clip.
Ive watched a lot of videos regarding the afghan war, ive never been there but ive seen the way the people talk, particularly those in the military. I have to say that kid is probably the most articulate and level headed of the bunch.
coming from a veteran....we have made certain wrong decision but our army should not be blamed....they are there for their duty and not for money or oil.... Pakistan is a big player out there which is helping the terrorists against India and Afghanistan.....they have openly supported the Haqquani network..... I think America should stop all sort of economic aid to Pakistan and it should be isolated
Yes the army, or the commander of chief is to blame. Especially if they do the same mistake over and over again. Pakistan should be politically isolated but don't stop developing their country. Their inhabitants need a step into the western world, again.
And what happens when Pakistan in its isolation gets into the same situation that syria is in with a civil war against extremists? Does the nuclear arsenal concern you?
Obama wanted to provide F-16's with 75% subsidy to Pakistan. That meant that US taxpayer will fund the Pakistani military. But fortunately, it was blocked by the congress.
you do realize Pakistan is our ally in the middle east? The LAST thing you want to do is ruin relationships with them. We are already ruining it by bombing them with drones. Pakistan is one of our only allies in the Middle East that combats terrorism.
it's sad, i had the same attitude when i was his age. I wanted to join the military and fight for justice and freedom. before i enlisted i talked with an officer who told me to take some time of before joining to truly understand what my values were. I am glad he told me this, now i look at the big picture rather than a Romanticised idea of military service.
Of course! At least USA never help him, and if you see israel everywher, may be they help Kim jong un too? Strange way for refusing reality ! Good nigt, it's late, here in greece!
The war has thus far cost in excess of 750 billion dollars. Commonsense demands that I formulate one single question: What can one do with 750 billion dollars - in a country such as Afghanistan - in terms of education, diversification of crops, strengthening of democratic initiatives and investing in healh care and job creation with a wallet containing 750 billion dollars? The only conclusion I can arrive at is that it is not in the interest of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex to do just that! Note: I am not a conspiracy theorist!
"Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace." - Bill Hicks
A friend once said afgans raise 7 kids 1 to work and pay for the family 2 kid for helping the home 3 kid buissnes Rest for the war effort And he was serious
Let me tell you something about Paktun people you cannot Enslave them, you cannot out fight them. Period. Pakhtuns are the most hard working people in the world but they have their own way of living, you can say the most beautiful things in the world to them, tell them they will all be millionaires and their country will be great but even then they will not accept an outsider. YOU CANNOT PUT A PUPPET IN THIS REGION. That is why they refused Karzai in Afghanistan, that is why they refuse the puppet they put in Iraq, that is why Libya has 2 governments and they still reject them, that is why Egypt doesn't accept their leaders. What people don't get is America is but 300 years old and Human Civilization started from the Indus River Valley which is currently Sindh, Pakistan and modern day Iraq. If they defeat Taliban they will do it themselves. Look at what the death of 2900 people brought to the world (don't get me wrong 9/11 was horrible and people who did it will go to hell, which i still think was an inside job) and groups like ISIS etc will have a special place in hell but does that one event justify the destruction of so many lives and countries?
783 billion and population of afganistan in 2001 was 22 million 35500 dollars for every person they could just have simply bought them back then to just give up taliban and opium production
A war like this has one cause, down right shitty politically correct Rules of Engagement. This is the result of international law for conventional war applied to a force that doesn't play by the rules and we are forced to play with hands and feet tied. You wanna win you have to fight your enemies fight on his own ground but do it better than he does himself.
"someone who has been forced to leave a country because of war or for religious or political reasons" That's from merriam webster. Go to school and learn english before you correct me you dimwit
فرازFaraaz رحيم Rahim ur country used to be prosperous safe beautiful and inviting but wahabism taliban and big powers being greedy over its resources has destroyed it kabul has become a toilet
طالبان والأفغان ، والجليد وكل هراء هم دون البشر. كيف يمكن للبشر أن يكونوا متخلفين إلى هذا الحد؟ إلى الجحيم مع الدين ، الآن عليك أن تستيقظ. أنت تعيش كما كنا نفعل قبل 700 عام.
why american make a problem with taliban... any country i see same too why? try to make good interaccial with them... they human to like u ... hear about mj song heal the world... not war the world.... war... for what? american you have big equipment like tank helicopter but why you make a problem... let we make some discussion... for good world... and good things...
"The amount of ammunition the Taliban have, the government does not have," Mohammad told VICE News.
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Kill ISIS and taliban
@Green Soul!! kasmir is pakistan. Wil be always be in sh Allah
Just imagine what you could do with $783 billion. The lives you could change instead of taking.
Steven Sanchez "Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace."
- Bill Hicks
Steven Sanchez sure if u want Russia to invade the us and for China to do the same
+invisobill808 no u can't,,,bcoz your govt. has 'Russophrenia' and still thinks it is in cold war and wants to still pursue & 'corner' Russia(probably China too) by estb. a satellite govt...
and bag 'Reconstruction & development contracts for 'friendly' corporates
soldier lives are just a means to an end for capitalists...
its the same ,almost everywhere in the world
What will happen if Us army invade iran?? Iran is 10 times deadly than Afgan ground...I think Us government all moneys will be g..n..
And now imagine what life would be like for those families had the US not tried to help them. It would be even worse.
31,000 Afghan civilians?
more like 800,000+
BravoSixDelta you're delusional
31,000 in Afghanistan, but nearly a million (some estimate over that) across the 8 Middle Eastern countries the US is/has bombed over the last 15 years. I think Iraq has had the most civilian casualties, would have to check though.
No matter how the numbers are dispersed, it's horrific. When the US does it, we call that something cute like collateral damage.
kiwiterran1 Do you have a source for 800,000? The highest figure I could find was 90,000.
Plz come with children not with military
Shut up I'm an afghan and i hate those animals who kill afghan people to get power and opium ( money)
+The Kingmaker dude how is the situation now?
dont forget about the Russian invasion era too in afghanistan...... we got generations of men born and raised in blood and bullet s
lol i wish they pay me, I flat out broke homie, venmo me some money and i will post what ever u want me to say.
Only the dead are safe. Only the dead have seen the end of war.
kparker1145 don't plagiarize plato
I'm quoting from him bitch! lol
2021 USA flee and alive.end of war.plato was wrong.
Graveyard for Empires
wizzzer1337 na thats bullshit, alexander conqeured it, the mongols did the timurids did and the mongols did, they only defeated the british and soviets
it ain't bs. You can conquer Afghanistan with ease because the borders are porous because you can just march in but you will lose hold of the country which is undeniable fact that has repeated itself in history
Jim Bean it's never been conquered at all , it maybe easy to invade but not to conquer
Vladmir Putin exactly man. Nobody can out fight those dudes it's crazy
Man that last kid was a fucking trooper, all the other 'refugees' trying to run away to Europe should take note. I wish him all the best!
he will need luck, he still lives on a country full of talibans and a weak government....
lolctulol123 in 10 years that kid might be a leader
Honest to god, shut the hell up if you've never been in their situation. Its either get killed by the Taliban or get killed by a drone strike. Plus, things aren't any better when you consider the fact that thousands of Afghans are flooding in from pakistan to put further stress on the strained economy. If you had the oppurunity to get away from it all, you'd be a dumbass to say no.
This is just so so upsetting so many lives wasted 15 years is ridiculous
BanaMUA don't attack the US then.
The Afghan civilians didn't wage war on the US. Neither did the government.
Because clearly the millions of civilian lives were worth it because terrorists happened to come from this country.
The US trained the Taliban in the first place!
More like 38.5 years of war
Meanwhile, the opium business never stops...
Afghanistan war: 783 Billion dollars
Trump wall: 20 billion dollars
Well... I am for the wall
What's the difference ?
Goto Hellm8 The wall stays forever. The war lasts 15 years but their consequences fuck the country for years and years.
great wall of china lastet pretty long - they built it to keep the mongols out - now the us build one to keep the illegal south americans out - it will hold for some time - the us could use some of it's big army to secure the boarder without a problem - how many service members do you have 1,4 milion or so? way enough to secure the southern boarder
Checking back to say its only 5 mill now. And trump is about to end war with terrorists. This guy Trump is trying his hardest to please all sides. Can at least one democrat give him credit for being anti war?
Kids like that are a bright hope for the future of Afghanistan.
It was a beautiful country back in the 60s and 70s
until the russian comes, i supose....
nope, it was when the russian were over there when it was a pretty good country, but.. u know, some CIA backed terrorist appeared and "liberated" afghanistan
i am talking aboult the russian invasion in 1979, not defending u.s.a but wasnt this the starting point of modern afghanistan decline
CIA? lol! More like the fundamentalists didnt like the communist approach to Islam and culture in the region. Once the people rebelled against the communist occupiers the CIA intervened with backing for the mujahideen in a proxy war vs the USSR. Lesson to be learned is that no outside influence is going to change Afghanistan. The Soviets failed and now the US is failing. They have to change it themselves with people like the young man at the end of this clip.
Mohammad Sadiqi wahabism taliban and asshole foreign powers destroyed it
Ive watched a lot of videos regarding the afghan war, ive never been there but ive seen the way the people talk, particularly those in the military. I have to say that kid is probably the most articulate and level headed of the bunch.
That kid gave me hope for the future of Afghanistan. Keep fighting
coming from a veteran....we have made certain wrong decision but our army should not be blamed....they are there for their duty and not for money or oil....
Pakistan is a big player out there which is helping the terrorists against India and Afghanistan.....they have openly supported the Haqquani network.....
I think America should stop all sort of economic aid to Pakistan and it should be isolated
Yes the army, or the commander of chief is to blame. Especially if they do the same mistake over and over again.
Pakistan should be politically isolated but don't stop developing their country. Their inhabitants need a step into the western world, again.
And what happens when Pakistan in its isolation gets into the same situation that syria is in with a civil war against extremists? Does the nuclear arsenal concern you?
Obama wanted to provide F-16's with 75% subsidy to Pakistan. That meant that US taxpayer will fund the Pakistani military. But fortunately, it was blocked by the congress.
you do realize Pakistan is our ally in the middle east? The LAST thing you want to do is ruin relationships with them. We are already ruining it by bombing them with drones. Pakistan is one of our only allies in the Middle East that combats terrorism.
Joseph K Is that why their military was hiding Bin Laden?
Props to the kid. Go get em man.
Ben, please give us the full documentary, you guys even took one video down last time. This is sad for Vice fans
poor kid doesn't know the reality of NDS. they don't 'protect' Afghan interests. they exploit them
Why is the Vice comment section so cancerous?
the comment section is not cells that uncontrollably increase in number, what are you talking about?
Internet. Comment section. In other news, water is wet and humans breathe air.
Good for that kid. I hope he succeeds and helps finally give that country some much needed peace. That's a pretty tall order though..
These people have been fighting each other for 1500 years. It didn't just magically become a shit hole when we got there.
The 9th grade boy had strong future views, I wish everyone of them grow the same way
R.I.P to those who support America's foreign policy!!!
R.i.p to every extremist
Where do I watch these episodes?
Yusuf Celenli On HBO
How do i see the film documentaire
that kid is so naïve...
it's sad, i had the same attitude when i was his age. I wanted to join the military and fight for justice and freedom. before i enlisted i talked with an officer who told me to take some time of before joining to truly understand what my values were. I am glad he told me this, now i look at the big picture rather than a Romanticised idea of military service.
I remember the time when they first invade Afghanistan. And now it's been 15 years. Damn, time flies tooo fast!
Do you remember who invades Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, and was kicked off?
???
It's only history!
Do you remember Massoud?
***** Massoud? Uhhh... Israeli spy agency?
Of course!
At least USA never help him, and if you see israel everywher, may be they help Kim jong un too?
Strange way for refusing reality !
Good nigt, it's late, here in greece!
***** Ok, good nite too!
This guy has to be my favorite Vice reporter.
what happened to the 3rd episode video about taking mosul or something like that?
I'm a waiting too
When will this war end
38 years
That's insane
The war has thus far cost in excess of 750 billion dollars. Commonsense demands that I formulate one single question: What can one do with 750 billion dollars - in a country such as Afghanistan - in terms of education, diversification of crops, strengthening of democratic initiatives and investing in healh care and job creation with a wallet containing 750 billion dollars? The only conclusion I can arrive at is that it is not in the interest of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex to do just that!
Note: I am not a conspiracy theorist!
it's already been 15 years?
Than how Us can attack iran???
God bless Afghanistan
"Here’s what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year, and instead spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace."
- Bill Hicks
Salute to that kid
If you count previous wars then Afghanistan has been in various wars since 1979, thats 37 years of development deducted from the country.
Very smart young man! He will succeed for himself and our country with that mindset.
A friend once said afgans raise 7 kids 1 to work and pay for the family
2 kid for helping the home
3 kid buissnes
Rest for the war effort
And he was serious
Let me tell you something about Paktun people you cannot Enslave them, you cannot out fight them. Period. Pakhtuns are the most hard working people in the world but they have their own way of living, you can say the most beautiful things in the world to them, tell them they will all be millionaires and their country will be great but even then they will not accept an outsider. YOU CANNOT PUT A PUPPET IN THIS REGION. That is why they refused Karzai in Afghanistan, that is why they refuse the puppet they put in Iraq, that is why Libya has 2 governments and they still reject them, that is why Egypt doesn't accept their leaders. What people don't get is America is but 300 years old and Human Civilization started from the Indus River Valley which is currently Sindh, Pakistan and modern day Iraq. If they defeat Taliban they will do it themselves. Look at what the death of 2900 people brought to the world (don't get me wrong 9/11 was horrible and people who did it will go to hell, which i still think was an inside job) and groups like ISIS etc will have a special place in hell but does that one event justify the destruction of so many lives and countries?
Indus isn't in Iraq just that civilizations are said to have started in these 2 regions
Are they trying to mimic vox way of editing ??
They're stronger now.
15 years........
783 billion and population of afganistan in 2001 was 22 million
35500 dollars for every person
they could just have simply bought them back then to just give up taliban and opium production
us needs to sto
I love afghans & Afghanistan.
The death of more then 31000 is true but if you would have said more then 150 000 it would also have been true.
now it cost more than 1 trelion
Never forget what they took from us.
vice you r awsome
This is the magic of Pent shirt and the schooling system
This kid doesn't know what talibans are fighting for.
really sad..
It’s almost a trillion USD by June 2019 no? Wouldn’t the average American tax payer consider it a waste of money?
I lost 1 of my 15 sons
This is liberal af. The US occupation of Afghanistan was necessary to fight terrorism
Chase Evangelista Right, somebody gotta protect the opium fields!
and yet terrorism attack keep spreading since the invasion. you just failed murican. just gtfo.
A war like this has one cause, down right shitty politically correct Rules of Engagement. This is the result of international law for conventional war applied to a force that doesn't play by the rules and we are forced to play with hands and feet tied. You wanna win you have to fight your enemies fight on his own ground but do it better than he does himself.
"Refugees in their own country" Vice if you're going to make a documentary about a country at least get your geography terms correct
a refugee is just a displaced civilian you inept fuck.
"someone who has been forced to leave a country because of war or for religious or political reasons" That's from merriam webster. Go to school and learn english before you correct me you dimwit
15yrs of american freedom
At the end of the day does it seem good ?
+blaze 1 and the Brits usually follow
So sad it was a peaceful country before the Communists, then the taliban took over
😢😔🇦🇫
فرازFaraaz رحيم Rahim ur country used to be prosperous safe beautiful and inviting but wahabism taliban and big powers being greedy over its resources has destroyed it kabul has become a toilet
@@johnpearl7934 Who tf supported Taliban in the first place huh? the USSR?
do the afghan people like the taliban because surely if they didnt they would fight back not bow down to them
Matthew Griffiths some people like them some people dont
Fight back with what? These people are so poor they can barely feed themselves and make it through the winter without freezing to death.
طالبان والأفغان ، والجليد وكل هراء هم دون البشر. كيف يمكن للبشر أن يكونوا متخلفين إلى هذا الحد؟ إلى الجحيم مع الدين ، الآن عليك أن تستيقظ. أنت تعيش كما كنا نفعل قبل 700 عام.
try and figth the war Lords there is where all the trillions went to....
why american make a problem with taliban... any country i see same too why? try to make good interaccial with them... they human to like u ... hear about mj song heal the world... not war the world.... war... for what? american you have big equipment like tank helicopter but why you make a problem... let we make some discussion... for good world... and good things...
And most people wanna elect Clinton ...
LOL
A fifteen year war explained in 4minutes... Just plain lazy! You're losing me vice.
Shouldn't've supported the Mujahideen in the first place
thanks Obama