. I purchased the Mark II about a month ago. I'm enjoying it very much. It is accurate out to 25 yards. I need the extend out the range. I'm old and have old eyes that wear glasses but I was able to use the open sites. I think it's money well spent. Keep up the good work on your channel
@@TheCuriousAirgunner Thanks! My MK2 was accurate at that range as well. I became disenchanted with it as it didn’t live up to hype the big TH-cam channels gave it and I was expecting it to be more capable and accurate at long range than it was. Had it been described as accurate to only 35 yds I would have known its limitations and had different expectations. There were a lot of things I liked about the MK2 and that’s what persuaded me to buy a Mk1 and give the platform another try. I really like my Mk1 not that I got it fixed by chamfering the breech. I shouldn’t have had to do that but I liked the gun and was willing to put in the extra effort.
Thanks 👍. It’s definitely a very nice looking gun that is slim and feels great ergonomically. But until I find decent accuracy with it my feelings are going to be reserved. I’m starting to get concerned that it might be flawed in some manner that can’t be corrected simply with pellet testing and hoping to find something that works.
@airgunsofalaska oh yeah, accuracy is king over everything else. Have you read up on online reviews regarding accuracy issues particularly with brand new mk1's?
@ That’s some research I’m planning to do. Mainly I’ve just watched what videos are out there about the gun and one guy’s groups were garbage like mine. The AAR channel looked to have shot a lot better. It seems like there are a lot more videos about the Mk2 than the Mk1 version.
Got a dragonfly mk2 and had to do a few things to get it squared away, namely completely disassemble the gun, smooth out any rough metal, lube what needed lube, modify the trigger and replace the cocking handle. Now, with ALLLLLLLLL that final finishing that SHOULD have been done from the factory actually done correctly, it's been great. Very accurate and fun gun. Gotta love that Chinese lottery...
@@aceman1126 That's something I'll do. More so older guns because that's what I'm into right now (up to a point) but if I get something newish that annoys me with no rare parts, I'll give it the full treatment.
@@airgunsofalaska accuracy is good. Got a crappy utg scope on it so it's not as good as it could be but still manage decent groups. I'll try to put it on paper again soon to get actual measurements and report back. 100% on cans and plinking stuff out to 25-30 yards. The poor glass kept me from trying for max accuracy. Generally I use my avenger and my hatsan 95 for precision. The dragonfly to me is just a fun plinker. The pumping allows you to vary power output and forces you to be slower and more deliberate with shots. It's a fun backyard gun and that's about all it is haha
@@aceman1126I think I’m keeping my expectations realistic with this gun but so far I’m disappointed. I’d think it should be able to shoot at least as well as a Daisy 880. I’m likely going to figure out how to remove the barrel to see if anything looks strange and can be improved.
@airgunsofalaska sadly it's really the luck of the draw with any Chinese gun. Some are decent, some can be made to be decent, and some just suck. Like my avenger... I got 2 of them, one .22 one .25. Both are crazy accurate like all touching shot holes at 50 (when there's no wind) but the 22 will slowly leak air and be empty in a day and a half. My dragonfly was decent after I reworked the whole gun and cleaned all the black crap out of the barrel. But my benjamin titan gp has been perfect from day one. There's no rhyme or reason, just random luck to get a good Chinese gun. If I knew what I know now I'd have only bought German guns from the beginning lol I may only have one or 2 but that beats a pile of trash that can barely hit a soda can at 15 yards. 🤣 But we all do it for the hobby and fun of seeing what's out there and what we can pull off with cheaper guns. Of course we could drop like 5k on an Olympic level pcp gun and get amazing groups but where's the fun in that? Lol
Appreciate. I don’t have the time or patience at this time, but gotta remember the devil is in the details. From what I’ve gleaned, the pellets, although .117 or .22…etc., still have different actual diameters- some a little bigger and some a-little smaller. Also, want to pump to whatever velocity is the pellet’s sweet spot. Thanks for sharing.
Dont worry bout dragging out the video, thats why we are here. Just try the JSBs . Bet you get more than 50 percent. I can never get good results beyond 25 with the Crosmans. , Sorry, said this before !! Keep em coming . All the best.Have to mention the 362 then my good wife doesnt have to hear it....Long story short. The barrel at the breech end was rough, really roygh. I got a clue when match/wadcutters appeared on the targets as pellet shapes , not round holes. Sanded it gently to 30 degrees with ordinry sandpaper so the pellet goes in smoothly. Now the valve is letting out only around 500fps and still some left in after pellets gone Already had it right down and cleaned the valve after it wouldnt fire at all, and with the valve in a vice with 2 lumps of softwood holding it , hit it hard on the striker and it was loud. This at 6 pumpps. Deciding whether to change hammer spring or shorten/change the inner valve spring.? Any ideas on that ? I buy my air rifles mainly to mess with, so this was a really ggod buy ...!
@@keithbarker-e4q I’ll need to start shopping around for a vendor that offers free shipping and a decent price for JSB’s. My Daisy 753 does really well at long range with the 7.87 gr JSB’s. It sounds like you are doing everything people recommend with your valve. I’ve not yet torn that far into any of my pumpers to remove the valve and work on it. But what you are doing is exactly what guys told me to do with my Benjamin 397 that was holding air. I still haven’t worked on it but I have a brand new replacement valve sitting in the package that Crosman sent me under warranty.
@@airgunsofalaska thanks for the reply. Forgot to say I really like the look of the Dragonfly and nice shooting with those clumpy open sights. Woods nice and looks so much held together than the 362. I have a Artemis 600 CO2 with almost the same stock. 10fpe with spring mods. Not that keen on co2 but tore a shoulder muscle years ago and bought it to keep me plinking. Take care, good luck with the suppliers. Keith
I was browsing the Pyramid site last week and ran across these on sale and thought I’d take a chance. With the shooting I’ve done so far I’m beginning to wonder if they were on sale and “refurbished” because they are inherently flawed with poor accuracy? My MK2 was more accurate at the distances I was shooting in the video.
I know.🤷♂️ I had accuracy issues with the MK2 version I had so I returned it. That one had a barrel brace at the end of the barrel that wasn’t particularly stiff. I was hoping that was due to the to parallelogram style linkage and that the older model didn’t need it and would be more accurate. So far that is not the case.
@@scavengernick3191 I’ve got Excite Hammers and they did awful. I also tried QYS match pellets and they were terrible as well. I found that to be crazy! My Daisy 753 shoots the QYS pellets with incredible accuracy. I don’t have any of the R10’s or Excite Plinking pellets.
@ Interesting! My tin of Hammers never seems to get any lower. I get a new gun, try them out for 5 shots, see disappointing results, close the tin again. Repeat. 🤣😂
You can adjust the sight so you just aim under the black, on the white you'll see the sights better. By the look that Dragonfly seems to be better made than the Daisy and Crosman models or aim i wrong? I had a Sheridan blue streak as a boy but that is the only pump rifle i've ever owned. Cheers!
That’s how I had the sights set up but they are too chunky for my tastes. I prefer a thinner front post to create a finer sight picture. It’s a far nicer gun than a 2100 Classic or 880. It is nicer and higher quality feeling and looking than a 362. Fit and finish wise it’s much nicer than a wood stock Benjamin and the feel and ergos are superior. There is much to like but so far I’ve not found a pellet that has provided acceptable accuracy. Hopefully it’ll figure it out.
I’m hoping I’ll find normal, decent accuracy through pellet testing. Right now I’m getting concerned as I already tested over 10 different types of pellet. That’s generally a red flag that a gun sucks.
My second MK2 has been pretty much drama free . The screws all stay tight except for the very front pump arm screw , and pumping action is smoothing out . Those magazines are 9 rounds in .177 but are kind of cheesy and expensive . Lately I've noticed my bolt seems to stick moving forward and it doesn't return to the cut out in the receiver . Im neutral on the butterfly system so far . I find myself shooting this rifle a lot . It likes the CPHP ' s 7.9 grains and the Apolo 9 grain domes . The 9 grains seem very tight in the breech . Usually 7 pumps is what I use but for comparison I can pump my 1977xs 3 pumps and get the FPS or more .
I tried my magazine out for the first time today. Not too impressed with its construction. I agree, it feels cheap and flimsy. Good to hear your Mk2 is holding together well. I’m not sure what would be causing the issue with your bolt?
I recently saw a no-brand mk1 and was close to buying it myself! I'm surprised the accuracy isn't better my Stormrider and Chaser would 100% those cans, they don't have feeding issues like that either. IDK if it's cus they are both .22 or if Diana is better than Seneca
@@yoitired There is something going on with this gun that isn’t right. I agree, it should have been able to shoot way more accurately at those cans. I watched a video I made with my 100th 362 and it did way better shooting cans at 35 yds. I was wondering if you were experiencing the issues I’ve had, now I know. One viewer gave me a good suggestion on what to look for. I like this gun and want to make it work. It sure seems like the quality of airguns nowadays is really poor.
@@airgunsofalaska I hope his idea works I think the platform will grow on you when it's working right. I didn't get the mk1 just cus I know the 39x is near impossible to de throne as the pumper king.
Do all pellets get hung up during loading? Try removing a pellet with a cleaning rod and inspect it for damage. Something like a burr on the transfer port could be damaging the pellet and affecting accuracy.
@@precisionrodentcontrol yes, when I think about it, every type of pellet I’ve tried has offered some level of resistance when I chamber it. I was just assuming it was the o-ring they have to pass through. I’ll do as you recommend and see what I find.
I ran a pellet down the barrel with cleaning rod and it was difficult to push through the breech at the end. I shot a pellet through it at 1 pump into a pile of rags and didn’t see any obvious damage to the pellet. But, I loaded a slightly damaged pellet into it to see if shooting into a bucket of water would be a viable capture method and this pellet fell out of the end of the barrel when I rotated the gun to vertical muzzle down. So weird! I grabbed a new pellet and chambered it and even with tapping on the breech and barrel that pellet remained chambered. I’m going to look into removing the barrel so I can see what the breech end, transfer port looks like.
@ interesting a pellet would fall through the barrel! I’m probably being repetitive but for clarity… I’d just load the pellet, then open the bolt, then insert cleaning rod into muzzle and gently push the pellet back out the breech, inspect pellet for any damage. I could see this not working though with that breech o-ring not allowing a pellet to back out. I don’t own a Dragonfly but this is (typically) an easy troubleshooting technique when an airgun isn’t loading a pellet smoothly. I like the tear down and inspect plan, keep us posted!
@ no worries, I did exactly as you described but when the pellet got to the breech I had to force it out. It then got mangled into the probe. My assumption was that shoving it through the o-ring is what caused all the resistance. Unfortunately, you can’t see into the breech end of the barrel. I’ve looked from the muzzle end using a light and white paper to reflect light down the barrel and nothing looks amiss. I’ve oiled the breech o-ring to reduce the effort needed to chamber a pellet but most are very difficult to chamber. I don’t recall my Mk2 gun being difficult to chamber.
@@outdoorplinking1119 No, I was just doing a general search for pneumatic guns and this older model popped up as a refurbished gun on Pyramid. I had to smooth out the breech with a grinding stone but now it feeds and shoots pellets very accurately at 20 yds. I still need to find the pellet it likes for longer distances.
I know this is off subject but your , sat night live skit , insert reminded me has anyone else here seen Dutch Bushcraft Knives ? If you have nothing else needs to be said About the gun to my eye its very attractive with the real wood and strong grain pattern ,
👍👍👍 I was just looking at a referb. Kind of worried about trying to get one because I once bought a break barrel referb with a big gash on the metal spring tube. I tried to get one when they were first discontinued, with no luck. I'm an X. I love catalogs. Lol I emailed Henry because I wanted a catalog from them.
The small catalog was pretty neat! It seems rare these days to see things like that anymore. I only decided to buy this gun and take a chance on this model again due to the discounted price. The gun doesn’t appear to have any defects but I don’t know why it was refurbished?
snowpeak rebrands their guns in countries where it had a bad reputation but most of them have ended in countries like chile where some of them had exploding tanks,a friend of mine almost got killed by a snowpeak rifle because of the bad quality they are made
@@MaverickShooter9 Wow! Thats crazy! The only PCP’s I own are made by Crosman. I never thought about the potential dangers of Chinese QC issues with PCP’s. I have zero desire to own a Chinese PCP. I’m suspecting there are likely some type of issues with this Mk1 I’ve got.
@@airgunsofalaska how the incident happened??? my friend loaded and bleeded air in the propper manner said in the manual, after that he went to the restroom and went for his cigs....a few minutes later he heard a very loud BOOM and that was his snowpeak rifle that exploded
@ Dang, good thing he wasn’t standing next to it. I’m going to remember this story so in the future if I run across some Chinese made PCP that is on sale for a really good price I don’t buy it. I could see myself considering a Beeman QB Chief if it were on discount at Amazon w/free shipping. Not anymore! 👍
@ That was my plan after my Crosman Magfire Extreme and Seneca Dragonfly MK2 experience. I actively stayed away from any Chinese made airguns. Then I think it was when I bought that Daisy 1101S and discovered how good, powerful and accurate it was for such a cheap price I started looking at Chinese made guns again. I guess overall I’ve had more good ones than bad but I still prefer to avoid them. I’m hoping I don’t regret giving Seneca a 2nd chance. There are a great many things I like about this gun. But, after this gun and one more that is on its way I’ll very likely go back to my “no Chinese gun” ways. I’d be better off saving up a few months of TH-cam payments for the channel and buying something nice and high quality of German origin.
It’s wood and steel, quality material for a cheap gun. Accuracy is most important. I don’t care if it’s all plastic if I can hit accurate. Anybody that complains about a pumper being hard to pump should just stay away from pumpers.Every air source has its pros and cons.
I totally agree on all accounts. At present both my $60 Crosman 2100 & Daisy 880 will outshoot this gun. I’m hoping I have yet to find the magic pellet that it likes but… things are not looking promising.
Not impressed with accuracy. Maybe why it was “ refurbished”. Does refurbished just mean someone sent it back and they cleaned it up and sent it back out. Refurbished scares me with a gun.
I agree, I’m not impressed either. I don’t know why they are listed as refurbished on the Pyramid site nor what is done to the guns to “refurbish” them? I took a chance as I had a really great experience buying a remanufactured gun off the Gamo website. My Swarm Hornet has been nothing but excellent. I can’t say the same about this one.
I’m inclined to agree with you. 👍 I’d really like to stick with American, German & Spanish guns but I can’t ignore that China is taking over the airgun industry. Of course the lack of accuracy with this gun speaks for itself. 🤣😆
Just recently got an Artemis LR700W 22 cal on ebay new. Very similar gun except has a barrel band/site at the end. I have it sited in at 25 yards with jsb 15.89 grain.
@ last night I found some videos with that model and saw it had the front band. It appears to be the same front band that is on the Mk2. I suspect they use a longer barrel on the Artemis with the threaded muzzle. Is your gun accurate at the distance you are shooting?
That's really nice You are actually a pretty good shot with a air gun good video mate
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I purchased the Mark II about a month ago. I'm enjoying it very much. It is accurate out to 25 yards. I need the extend out the range. I'm old and have old eyes that wear glasses but I was able to use the open sites. I think it's money well spent.
Keep up the good work on your channel
@@TheCuriousAirgunner Thanks! My MK2 was accurate at that range as well. I became disenchanted with it as it didn’t live up to hype the big TH-cam channels gave it and I was expecting it to be more capable and accurate at long range than it was. Had it been described as accurate to only 35 yds I would have known its limitations and had different expectations.
There were a lot of things I liked about the MK2 and that’s what persuaded me to buy a Mk1 and give the platform another try. I really like my Mk1 not that I got it fixed by chamfering the breech. I shouldn’t have had to do that but I liked the gun and was willing to put in the extra effort.
Congrats on your beautiful new Seneca! I agree with the mediocre open sights. My eyes would require a good optic to zero in
Thanks 👍. It’s definitely a very nice looking gun that is slim and feels great ergonomically. But until I find decent accuracy with it my feelings are going to be reserved. I’m starting to get concerned that it might be flawed in some manner that can’t be corrected simply with pellet testing and hoping to find something that works.
@airgunsofalaska oh yeah, accuracy is king over everything else. Have you read up on online reviews regarding accuracy issues particularly with brand new mk1's?
@ That’s some research I’m planning to do. Mainly I’ve just watched what videos are out there about the gun and one guy’s groups were garbage like mine. The AAR channel looked to have shot a lot better. It seems like there are a lot more videos about the Mk2 than the Mk1 version.
@airgunsofalaska yes I've noticed that as well
Got a dragonfly mk2 and had to do a few things to get it squared away, namely completely disassemble the gun, smooth out any rough metal, lube what needed lube, modify the trigger and replace the cocking handle.
Now, with ALLLLLLLLL that final finishing that SHOULD have been done from the factory actually done correctly, it's been great. Very accurate and fun gun.
Gotta love that Chinese lottery...
@@aceman1126 That's something I'll do. More so older guns because that's what I'm into right now (up to a point) but if I get something newish that annoys me with no rare parts, I'll give it the full treatment.
Are you seeing good accuracy with yours? Did you polish the barrel?
@@airgunsofalaska accuracy is good. Got a crappy utg scope on it so it's not as good as it could be but still manage decent groups. I'll try to put it on paper again soon to get actual measurements and report back. 100% on cans and plinking stuff out to 25-30 yards. The poor glass kept me from trying for max accuracy. Generally I use my avenger and my hatsan 95 for precision.
The dragonfly to me is just a fun plinker. The pumping allows you to vary power output and forces you to be slower and more deliberate with shots. It's a fun backyard gun and that's about all it is haha
@@aceman1126I think I’m keeping my expectations realistic with this gun but so far I’m disappointed. I’d think it should be able to shoot at least as well as a Daisy 880.
I’m likely going to figure out how to remove the barrel to see if anything looks strange and can be improved.
@airgunsofalaska sadly it's really the luck of the draw with any Chinese gun. Some are decent, some can be made to be decent, and some just suck. Like my avenger... I got 2 of them, one .22 one .25. Both are crazy accurate like all touching shot holes at 50 (when there's no wind) but the 22 will slowly leak air and be empty in a day and a half.
My dragonfly was decent after I reworked the whole gun and cleaned all the black crap out of the barrel. But my benjamin titan gp has been perfect from day one.
There's no rhyme or reason, just random luck to get a good Chinese gun. If I knew what I know now I'd have only bought German guns from the beginning lol I may only have one or 2 but that beats a pile of trash that can barely hit a soda can at 15 yards. 🤣
But we all do it for the hobby and fun of seeing what's out there and what we can pull off with cheaper guns. Of course we could drop like 5k on an Olympic level pcp gun and get amazing groups but where's the fun in that? Lol
Appreciate. I don’t have the time or patience at this time, but gotta remember the devil is in the details.
From what I’ve gleaned, the pellets, although .117 or .22…etc., still have different actual diameters- some a little bigger and some a-little smaller. Also, want to pump to whatever velocity is the pellet’s sweet spot.
Thanks for sharing.
Dont worry bout dragging out the video, thats why we are here. Just try the JSBs . Bet you get more than 50 percent. I can never get good results beyond 25 with the Crosmans. , Sorry, said this before !! Keep em coming . All the best.Have to mention the 362 then my good wife doesnt have to hear it....Long story short. The barrel at the breech end was rough, really roygh. I got a clue when match/wadcutters appeared on the targets as pellet shapes , not round holes. Sanded it gently to 30 degrees with ordinry sandpaper so the pellet goes in smoothly. Now the valve is letting out only around 500fps and still some left in after pellets gone Already had it right down and cleaned the valve after it wouldnt fire at all, and with the valve in a vice with 2 lumps of softwood holding it , hit it hard on the striker and it was loud. This at 6 pumpps. Deciding whether to change hammer spring or shorten/change the inner valve spring.? Any ideas on that ? I buy my air rifles mainly to mess with, so this was a really ggod buy ...!
@@keithbarker-e4q I’ll need to start shopping around for a vendor that offers free shipping and a decent price for JSB’s. My Daisy 753 does really well at long range with the 7.87 gr JSB’s.
It sounds like you are doing everything people recommend with your valve. I’ve not yet torn that far into any of my pumpers to remove the valve and work on it. But what you are doing is exactly what guys told me to do with my Benjamin 397 that was holding air. I still haven’t worked on it but I have a brand new replacement valve sitting in the package that Crosman sent me under warranty.
@@airgunsofalaska thanks for the reply. Forgot to say I really like the look of the Dragonfly and nice shooting with those clumpy open sights. Woods nice and looks so much held together than the 362. I have a Artemis 600 CO2 with almost the same stock. 10fpe with spring mods. Not that keen on co2 but tore a shoulder muscle years ago and bought it to keep me plinking. Take care, good luck with the suppliers. Keith
Did you pick that up recently? If so where did you get it?
I think he picked it up as a refurb from Pyramyd Air. By the way, I really enjoy your videos.
thanks!
I was browsing the Pyramid site last week and ran across these on sale and thought I’d take a chance. With the shooting I’ve done so far I’m beginning to wonder if they were on sale and “refurbished” because they are inherently flawed with poor accuracy? My MK2 was more accurate at the distances I was shooting in the video.
Hi, not sure how you store your guns, be nice to post a pic or a quick video of all your air guns. Keep them coming. Thanks
You are going to catch the Walnut and Steel channel in the amount of guns soon.🤠🇺🇸
Ha! I had a large collection before I started the channel. I’ve pretty much bought all the guns I’m interested in right now.
I said the same thing Yesterday, now I'm kinda interested in this pumper.@@airgunsofalaska
Thank you for the review. Is that middle piece holding the barrel plastic or cnc?
@@adisyamadasa4238 It’s an aluminum barrel band.
@@airgunsofalaska Thank you sir, its good to know!
The rear sight location is kinda strange, halfway down the barrel? Then the floating barrel? Seems like it should have a support.
I know.🤷♂️ I had accuracy issues with the MK2 version I had so I returned it. That one had a barrel brace at the end of the barrel that wasn’t particularly stiff.
I was hoping that was due to the to parallelogram style linkage and that the older model didn’t need it and would be more accurate. So far that is not the case.
Excite plinking or rws r10. Narrow easy fit pellets with excellent size consistency.
@@scavengernick3191 I’ve got Excite Hammers and they did awful. I also tried QYS match pellets and they were terrible as well. I found that to be crazy! My Daisy 753 shoots the QYS pellets with incredible accuracy. I don’t have any of the R10’s or Excite Plinking pellets.
@airgunsofalaska i'm finishing off a tin of hammers atm. They are slow and shifty compared to the plinking.
@ Interesting! My tin of Hammers never seems to get any lower. I get a new gun, try them out for 5 shots, see disappointing results, close the tin again. Repeat. 🤣😂
You can adjust the sight so you just aim under the black, on the white you'll see the sights better. By the look that Dragonfly seems to be better made than the Daisy and Crosman models or aim i wrong? I had a Sheridan blue streak as a boy but that is the only pump rifle i've ever owned. Cheers!
That’s how I had the sights set up but they are too chunky for my tastes. I prefer a thinner front post to create a finer sight picture.
It’s a far nicer gun than a 2100 Classic or 880. It is nicer and higher quality feeling and looking than a 362. Fit and finish wise it’s much nicer than a wood stock Benjamin and the feel and ergos are superior. There is much to like but so far I’ve not found a pellet that has provided acceptable accuracy. Hopefully it’ll figure it out.
You would think that in this day and age, making a product without a "weak link" can easily be done without losing $.
I’m hoping I’ll find normal, decent accuracy through pellet testing. Right now I’m getting concerned as I already tested over 10 different types of pellet. That’s generally a red flag that a gun sucks.
My second MK2 has been pretty much drama free . The screws all stay tight except for the very front pump arm screw , and pumping action is smoothing out . Those magazines are 9 rounds in .177 but are kind of cheesy and expensive . Lately I've noticed my bolt seems to stick moving forward and it doesn't return to the cut out in the receiver . Im neutral on the butterfly system so far . I find myself shooting this rifle a lot . It likes the CPHP ' s 7.9 grains and the Apolo 9 grain domes . The 9 grains seem very tight in the breech . Usually 7 pumps is what I use but for comparison I can pump my 1977xs 3 pumps and get the FPS or more .
I tried my magazine out for the first time today. Not too impressed with its construction. I agree, it feels cheap and flimsy.
Good to hear your Mk2 is holding together well. I’m not sure what would be causing the issue with your bolt?
I recently saw a no-brand mk1 and was close to buying it myself! I'm surprised the accuracy isn't better my Stormrider and Chaser would 100% those cans, they don't have feeding issues like that either. IDK if it's cus they are both .22 or if Diana is better than Seneca
@@yoitired There is something going on with this gun that isn’t right. I agree, it should have been able to shoot way more accurately at those cans. I watched a video I made with my 100th 362 and it did way better shooting cans at 35 yds.
I was wondering if you were experiencing the issues I’ve had, now I know. One viewer gave me a good suggestion on what to look for. I like this gun and want to make it work. It sure seems like the quality of airguns nowadays is really poor.
@@airgunsofalaska I hope his idea works I think the platform will grow on you when it's working right. I didn't get the mk1 just cus I know the 39x is near impossible to de throne as the pumper king.
Do all pellets get hung up during loading? Try removing a pellet with a cleaning rod and inspect it for damage. Something like a burr on the transfer port could be damaging the pellet and affecting accuracy.
@@precisionrodentcontrol yes, when I think about it, every type of pellet I’ve tried has offered some level of resistance when I chamber it. I was just assuming it was the o-ring they have to pass through. I’ll do as you recommend and see what I find.
I ran a pellet down the barrel with cleaning rod and it was difficult to push through the breech at the end.
I shot a pellet through it at 1 pump into a pile of rags and didn’t see any obvious damage to the pellet. But, I loaded a slightly damaged pellet into it to see if shooting into a bucket of water would be a viable capture method and this pellet fell out of the end of the barrel when I rotated the gun to vertical muzzle down. So weird!
I grabbed a new pellet and chambered it and even with tapping on the breech and barrel that pellet remained chambered.
I’m going to look into removing the barrel so I can see what the breech end, transfer port looks like.
@ interesting a pellet would fall through the barrel!
I’m probably being repetitive but for clarity… I’d just load the pellet, then open the bolt, then insert cleaning rod into muzzle and gently push the pellet back out the breech, inspect pellet for any damage.
I could see this not working though with that breech o-ring not allowing a pellet to back out.
I don’t own a Dragonfly but this is (typically) an easy troubleshooting technique when an airgun isn’t loading a pellet smoothly.
I like the tear down and inspect plan, keep us posted!
@ no worries, I did exactly as you described but when the pellet got to the breech I had to force it out. It then got mangled into the probe. My assumption was that shoving it through the o-ring is what caused all the resistance. Unfortunately, you can’t see into the breech end of the barrel. I’ve looked from the muzzle end using a light and white paper to reflect light down the barrel and nothing looks amiss.
I’ve oiled the breech o-ring to reduce the effort needed to chamber a pellet but most are very difficult to chamber. I don’t recall my Mk2 gun being difficult to chamber.
Where did you find this one used?
@@outdoorplinking1119 No, I was just doing a general search for pneumatic guns and this older model popped up as a refurbished gun on Pyramid. I had to smooth out the breech with a grinding stone but now it feeds and shoots pellets very accurately at 20 yds. I still need to find the pellet it likes for longer distances.
@airgunsofalaska nice!
Is that from snow peak China?
@@cedhome7945 it’s a rebranded Snow Peak gun from Air Venturi here in the USA.
Well can't be perfect all the time...that's ok love pump guns anyway..my 880 and my 1977 are my favorites.
I know this is off subject but your , sat night live skit , insert reminded me has anyone else here seen Dutch Bushcraft Knives ?
If you have nothing else needs to be said
About the gun to my eye its very attractive with the real wood and strong grain pattern ,
👍👍👍 I was just looking at a referb. Kind of worried about trying to get one because I once bought a break barrel referb with a big gash on the metal spring tube. I tried to get one when they were first discontinued, with no luck.
I'm an X. I love catalogs. Lol I emailed Henry because I wanted a catalog from them.
The small catalog was pretty neat! It seems rare these days to see things like that anymore.
I only decided to buy this gun and take a chance on this model again due to the discounted price. The gun doesn’t appear to have any defects but I don’t know why it was refurbished?
snowpeak rebrands their guns in countries where it had a bad reputation but most of them have ended in countries like chile where some of them had exploding tanks,a friend of mine almost got killed by a snowpeak rifle because of the bad quality they are made
@@MaverickShooter9 Wow! Thats crazy! The only PCP’s I own are made by Crosman. I never thought about the potential dangers of Chinese QC issues with PCP’s. I have zero desire to own a Chinese PCP.
I’m suspecting there are likely some type of issues with this Mk1 I’ve got.
@@airgunsofalaska how the incident happened??? my friend loaded and bleeded air in the propper manner said in the manual, after that he went to the restroom and went for his cigs....a few minutes later he heard a very loud BOOM and that was his snowpeak rifle that exploded
@ Dang, good thing he wasn’t standing next to it. I’m going to remember this story so in the future if I run across some Chinese made PCP that is on sale for a really good price I don’t buy it. I could see myself considering a Beeman QB Chief if it were on discount at Amazon w/free shipping. Not anymore! 👍
@@airgunsofalaska avoid any chinese rifle if is possible
@ That was my plan after my Crosman Magfire Extreme and Seneca Dragonfly MK2 experience. I actively stayed away from any Chinese made airguns. Then I think it was when I bought that Daisy 1101S and discovered how good, powerful and accurate it was for such a cheap price I started looking at Chinese made guns again. I guess overall I’ve had more good ones than bad but I still prefer to avoid them. I’m hoping I don’t regret giving Seneca a 2nd chance. There are a great many things I like about this gun.
But, after this gun and one more that is on its way I’ll very likely go back to my “no Chinese gun” ways. I’d be better off saving up a few months of TH-cam payments for the channel and buying something nice and high quality of German origin.
It’s wood and steel, quality material for a cheap gun. Accuracy is most important. I don’t care if it’s all plastic if I can hit accurate.
Anybody that complains about a pumper being hard to pump should just stay away from pumpers.Every air source has its pros and cons.
I totally agree on all accounts. At present both my $60 Crosman 2100 & Daisy 880 will outshoot this gun. I’m hoping I have yet to find the magic pellet that it likes but… things are not looking promising.
Not impressed with accuracy. Maybe why it was “ refurbished”. Does refurbished just mean someone sent it back and they cleaned it up and sent it back out. Refurbished scares me with a gun.
I agree, I’m not impressed either. I don’t know why they are listed as refurbished on the Pyramid site nor what is done to the guns to “refurbish” them?
I took a chance as I had a really great experience buying a remanufactured gun off the Gamo website. My Swarm Hornet has been nothing but excellent. I can’t say the same about this one.
Chinese takeaway junk.
I’m inclined to agree with you. 👍
I’d really like to stick with American, German & Spanish guns but I can’t ignore that China is taking over the airgun industry.
Of course the lack of accuracy with this gun speaks for itself. 🤣😆
@@airgunsofalaska yes I agree they are taking over but they have still got very very poor quality control on their products.
Just recently got an Artemis LR700W 22 cal on ebay new. Very similar gun except has a barrel band/site at the end. I have it sited in at 25 yards with jsb 15.89 grain.
@ last night I found some videos with that model and saw it had the front band. It appears to be the same front band that is on the Mk2. I suspect they use a longer barrel on the Artemis with the threaded muzzle.
Is your gun accurate at the distance you are shooting?
@@airgunsofalaska groups good in 1 1/2" circle targets at 25yds.