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@@MBHeritageFarms Yes, I suspect that’s how the warranty would work. But shipping for me is prohibitively expensive from Alaska. I already paid shipping to get the gun in the first place. If I’d have shipped it back to them I’d have spent over 1/2 the guns value in shipping. That didn’t make any sense for me to do. Also, from what Oh Shoot said in his video, they didn’t appear to have done anything to the gun he returned.

@@gmanneod8085 I wonder why YT is deleting comments? I skipped through a video about that gun last night. It looks promising but I believe the first generation was rife with problems. I own some Umarex CO2 pistols that have been good quality and very reliable. I don’t know if their current rifles are manufactured to that same standard? It looks good on paper and seemed to do well in the review.

@@airgunsofalaska I own an Origin and a Notos. Both fine accurate air rifles and no problems, yet! The original Synergis had feeding problems, maybe they fixed them with new magazines? It looks like Umarex has improved quality in the last 2- 3 years?

@@gmanneod8085 That’s what I recall, lots of feeding issues with the first generation of the gun. It’ll be interesting to see how the new one does over time.

@@jackpotparty58 Recommend it? I don’t know 🤷‍♂️. It does seem to be doing better now and someone with experience using the proper tool could do a far better job than me with recrowning. I was seeing better accuracy at 35 yds last night but the gun is extremely hold sensitive. There is part of me now thinking my recrowning work had nothing to do with it. Just a placebo effect. I can sometimes shoot it well and sometimes it’s terrible, just like before. My best, most consistent results are holding it fairly tight, the opposite of what you’re supposed to do. That would explain why the other channels also saw issues. I should rewatch videos, including my own, to see if my current thinking is on the right track?

@@airgunsofalaska I'm not sure if I mentioned it here but I did come across something similar when I went to go mess around and shoot some Gamo guns at a fishing show. They were lower end Gamos but I had to hold them firmly. First shots were misses when holding the gun lightly. It was a habit because my wood stock Noricas require a light hold. Hmmm I'm wondering if it has something to do with the synthetic stocks being too light and not absorbing the recoil.🤔

Then again, your Gamo swarm shoots good and it has a synthetic stock. My swarm has a wood stock and I use a light hold. So, I don't know.

@@jackpotparty58 I remember wondering about that early on, or if there was some weird harmonic issue? It definitely seems like they screwed something up with this production lot of guns. Perhaps that’s why they listed this one on sale at the time I bought it off their website?

@@airgunsofalaska Maybe... There's sometimes a "catch" when things go on sale out of nowhere, a product being discontinued, unsatisfactory quality control, defective part, what ever it may be. I've also experienced it myself. The million dollar question is, "What's wrong with it?" Lol If you can EASILY figure it out and EASILY fix it, then just maybe it was worth it at a low price.

@@greg4161 Thanks! I’m happy to see the improved accuracy. I’m not certain why it’s makes a noticeable difference? The crown and rifling is recessed so far down into the muzzle it’s hard to see detail of their condition. It’s even more difficult to try and capture a still or video image of it. Perhaps if they were more visible the imperfections would be apparent and one could easily see how they negatively affected the pellet?

Everything hinges upon the projectile leaving the barrel and gasses dispersed evenly. Got a bad shooter check the crown of the barrel first.

@@jameswalker3973 how far in from outer edge of barrel do you need to hone?

@@jameswalker3973 seems kinda ridiculous that a new gun would require work to the crown. I’ve heard a lot of mixed things about Gamo QC over the years and it looks like this might be an example of their issues?

@@OceanTruth While it’s been really frustrating at times, it is interesting to learn new ways to work on a gun and be able to see better results from those efforts.

@@nightwolf357. During my testing I wasn’t seeing a huge difference between domed and wadcutter pellets so I used the Meisterkugelns. I found it interesting that it could shoot good groups with those as it didn’t do well with the Meisterkugelns before the recrowning work. I’ll switch to domed pellets for longer range shooting. Short of complete disassembly, there is no way to polish the barrel on this gun. Maybe one day I’ll be at that point if it needs seals at some point.

@@OLDGRIZZ I watched the video on my TV after uploading and the volume seemed good. 🤷‍♂️

@@peteralexben The grinding stones have definitely made the gun more consistently accurate than it was. 👍

its inside

@@peteralexben Yes it is. Still prone to rust if it sits for an extended time.

@@michaelwthalman I suspect a guy could but don’t care enough about the gun to go through the time and effort. My guns are stored inside. I’m not worried about corrosion.

@@airgunsofalaska It probably gets somewhat lubed just from shooting anyways. Glad it is shooting great for u now. It definitely is broken in! I'm still curious about the CFX and if it's identical to the Accu? I love my Accu .22, I have been shooting almost daily for 6 or so years. I have no idea how many thousands of shots it has done, but enough to make me wonder if the spring or piston seal goes bad, I'm not sure where to get replacement parts???

@@michaelwthalman I’m not familiar with the Accu model. From what I’ve researched on disassembly of the CFX, it seems like parts such as replacement seals are available from aftermarket vendors. I have read repeatedly that Gamo doesn’t sell replacement parts for their guns. I’m not sure what a guy does if their Gamo breaks? Maybe there are aftermarket parts available?

@@KIF83 Thanks! I’m just happy to be seeing real improvement with the gun. I still wouldn’t recommend it to anyone but at least if I do my part the rifle now appears capable of consistent accuracy, at least at 20 yds.

@@airgunsofalaska thought u did well👍 i just ordered Gamo Speedster 10X IGT Gen 2 .177 at a good price, my cheap hatsan was all over the place at 20 yards, will be nice to have something a little better

@@KIF83 I’ve got a remanufactured Gamo Swarm Hornet .22 10X and I’ve been really impressed at how accurate it can be. I never thought a break barrel repeater could be accurate. Pretty amazing!

@@yoitired Ha! That would have been a good idea that I didn’t even think about. 🤣🤦‍♂️

@@airgunsofalaska Woops! Well it doesn't seem much worse for wear😄

@@t2bkk1 it’s fortunate it’s not available in Thailand. I wouldn’t recommend this gun even though I enjoy shooting it.

@@t2bkk1 Reach out to BravoBassin on his channel, you might be able to get his CFX for a reasonable cost. 👍

@@BravoBassin Yeah, if Gamo’s return policy wasn’t such garbage I’d have sent it back within the first 2 weeks. I’m curious to see how it’ll do a longer ranges as well. I think Gamo screwed up the barrels on the recent production run of guns. From the comments I’ve received from guys with older models, they say their guns were accurate. The gun seems to be much more hold sensitive than most of my other springers. I’m not sure why that is? It’s not a magnum powered gun? Overall it’s quite a nice gun, it’s well built and has been 100% reliable all this time. It can’t be compared to the Diana’s, Weihrauch’s or Air Arm’s guns. The majority of airgunners are never going to buy guns in that price range. Perhaps if I just let the cameras roll while I shoot and forget they are there I can capture some good shooting with the gun on video. Mine shoots well enough now, the majority of the time to make me want to keep shooting it. There is a guy in Thailand who really wants one of these guns. I’ll mention your channel to him and maybe he could buy your CFX as he says none are available in his country.

@@airgunsofalaska So I have guys with older ones tell me thye were more accurate as well so maybe you are right and they screwed up the barrels on th enew ones. I also did like the build quality and feel of the gun just the accuracy was crap and after spending weeks trying to figue it out I was just over it and said enough is enough. You on the other hand have kept at it which has been fun to watch and see what you try next. In the end I prefer my weihrauchs and air arms over any of the budget stuff but you are right most people are not going to spend that much money on an air rifle. And that is why I do have a few budget ones that I show and shoot for those few people. For me I do not mind spending a little more to get a great air rifle that is not only built well but shoots well and will last me a life time. There are a few more budget air rifles on my list that I am intersted to try out like the cometas and JTS has some spring air rifles comming out I might try out as well when they hit the market this fall so we will see. Anway take care up there and keep the videos coming.

@@neirdoandrew5344 I was shooting it again last night (after months of it collecting dust) and I can’t get a scope to adjust down far enough to compensate for the barrel droop. I’ve tried several different scopes in my collection. I’m now going to try a different rear iron sight to see if I can hit anything.

@@airgunsofalaska I think it would be a great pellet gun if you can get it to work consistently. A red dot might help. I don't know.

@@neirdoandrew5344 I don’t want to spend any money on it. I was shooting it again tonight and I’m terrible with it.

@@TheGV50 Thanks! I just wasn’t expecting the new 880 to feel so different than my 80’s and 90’s models.

@@adalbertosolde what is the list of parts made in China?

No easy way other than smoothing out the mating surfaces. But, since this is a direct sear gun you have to be very careful or you could render it unsafe. A sharp drop or jolt could cause it to go off.

@@cerqud That’s interesting to hear you saw issues with your crown. I’m planning to do some more work to mine one my new grinding stones arrive.

The wood stock and steel breech plus the other minor changes made for a very nice, solid feeling gun.

@@airgunsofalaska Yep, for sure! I have one of my grandpa's second variant brass bolt auto-cocking Power Master 760 in pretty good shape. I bought a new forearm for it and new seals, so I can't wait to shoot it. I also noticed that the 760 has 'patent pending' written on it, which I thought was cool.

@@gboutdoors5198 Sweet! I still have my ‘81 Crosman PowerMaster I got as a kid.

@@airgunsofalaska Nice! I love old airguns to get the same quality you have to spend 200 bucks to get even like a metal trigger

@@raylaux8295 Thanks for the additional info. 👍 Sometimes I think about getting it back out to try again but I really don’t care for that gun.

@@garysmith5641 Webley definitely made a nice gun. 👍

@@airgunsofalaska so do BSA

@@PapaTAdventures I definitely think it has issues as it shouldn’t be so difficult to shoot.

@@kennyh5083 let’s see a link to YOUR videos champ.

Still waiting for the link.

@@kennyh5083 I thought it was overpriced at $400. At $300 it’s more reasonable after I got one and saw how many differences there were compared to the standard gun. With Crosman shutting their plant and being absorbed into Daisy, some guys think these will go up in value over time due to them being built in the USA.

@@user-ts4gw2dx8f that’s great to know they’ve got them in stock. 👍😀

@@ChrisSchumacher the 9S model for the Crosman steel breech.

@@TheGV50 I’m glad I waited and was able to get mine on sale this past spring. Now it has more value to me being the last of the guns made in the New York plant.

@@OceanTruth it sounds like you need the longer probe for .177 cal. The breech works for both calibers. I ordered my longer probe from some vendor on Amazon, there are likely plenty to choose from. That said, the bolt handle was always a bit loose on my .177 Maximus, that’s just the way it came from the factory. The handle itself would bounce on each shot and just didn’t lock down tight. On advice from a viewer who experienced the same problem, I used a center punch to make a divot right at the corner of the slot the bolt handle slid into. That made the friction fit a bit tighter and solved my problem. If you are using the .22 cal probe I suspect things are definitely not lining up properly.

@@airgunsofalaskaThanks so much for the reply! I actually bought the .177 probe with the barrel, so I know it should have been the correct size, diameter-wise at least. I just didn’t know there was an extended one. I bought the standard size I believe. Hopefully, the parts come in quickly, so I can work on it again this weekend. The rifle is also holding air as well, but from one of your videos and google, I think I have a handle on how to fix that as well. There are a few different fixes it seems so I’ll try them all when I break it all down again. I really appreciate your help! Hopefully, I won’t have to ask about it again.

@@OceanTruth That’s odd if your .177 probe isn’t working properly. I’d do a search to find the measurement difference between the long and standard probes. While probes aren’t very expensive it’d be good to know what you currently have in the gun.

@@airgunsofalaska That’s true, I will try to look for that. While I had both probes out, the .22 and .177, I honestly didn’t look that carefully, but they seemed like the same length. I will look more carefully when I break the rifle down again. I’m wondering now if there is a problem with the o-ring that’s on it. Maybe it’s not thick enough? I should try some different pellets too, but I was starting to get frustrated with it. It’s weird how on the first day everything seemed all right besides that probe fit. The next day it all went to hell. Parts singularly seem pretty affordable, but damn when you add this and that it gets pretty costly on these things. 😂

@@OceanTruth make sure your screws are tight and that everything lined up properly. On my 1st 362 the air valve exhaust hole was not indexed correctly with the transfer port hole in the pump tube. I got it aligned easily enough using a small tapered drift. I was wondering if your o-ring might have gotten damaged on the probe. I’ve found that the majority of the time I was issues, something was loose or not in proper alignment.

@@jackpotparty58 It appears the factory crown was creating some issues. After I did my halfass recrowning the accuracy improved to the degree I wanted to document it on video. I want to see if my local hardware store has any dremel stones that are smaller in diameter with a conical profile to clean the crown up some more. The problem is the crown is recessed about a 1/2” down into the barrel so it’s hard to fit something in there. I’m cautiously optimistic that I’m on the right track.

@@precisionrodentcontrol Great thinking and thanks for the tip! With the loading port configuration of this gun I doubt I can get a cleaning rod into it from the breech end. I just put the gun horizontal and ran the drill. It was very crude, unscientific and I didn’t put much care or effort into the process. I kinda want to try doing it again with a cone shaped stone small enough to fit down and reach the recessed crown. I already had the dremel bit in my shop so I used what was handy.

@@gmanneod8085 Thanks! the 2100 Classic is a neat airgun, pretty much what we had in the 80’s. I don’t like how expensive the 1977XS is for how it is constructed (lots of plastic) and I really dislike how it looks. But, I’m still waiting for the Vapor to be released but I’m no longer as excited about it as I once was.

@@gmanneod8085 Thanks! It seems like my crude recrowning method improved accuracy a bit. I just loosened the Allen screw and tapped the muzzle shroud off with a dead blow hammer. The rifling and crown is recessed about 1/2” within the barrel so I couldn’t use the cone shaped stone I had as it wouldn’t fit or reach. I’m thinking of checking what dremel bits my hardware store has to see if they have anything smaller and come shaped to fit down into the barrel. I’ve resigned myself to this maybe only being a 20 yds gun and I can live with that. I don’t like it but I’m encouraged to see it improving. Maybe it’ll surprise me and do better at longer ranges now?

@@bultacowally I doubt Crosman is going away, they’ll just be Crosman guns in name only. The guns will be manufactured by some soulless Chinese factory, cheapened out even more and shipped back to the USA without even a discount in pricing. I’m 100% pessimistic that anything good comes out of this sale. All I can do is vote with my wallet and it won’t be to give them any additional business.

@@airgunsofalaska Auhhh IDK about that. Daisy has a sizeable plant in Arkansas and most of their current lineup is made in China so maybe they have room to build a few "Crosman" in name only guns. The 1322,1377, 2240, 760, 2100 all very popular low priced guns. really no reason to send those to China they must be easy and cheap to build right here. WTF there Mr. Alaska I have seen you shooting Daisy guns and like I said most of them are already made in China! I do understand your resentment hey I sent Daisy a nasty E-mail already and told them no more Daisy OR Crosman stuff for me. i will most likely buy 1 or 2 more Crosman MADE guns off E-Bay that I have been wanting then be done with them. I would think most Crosman dealers have stock that was made before Crosman was sold but not for long!

@@bultacowally If what you wrote were true then why would they lay off the very workers who know how to build Crosman pneumatic & PCP guns? The Daisy guns are not similar in design or construction to Crosman guns. I won’t be at all surprised they move the production equipment to the same plant in China where Daisy guns are manufactured. It’d be great if I’m wrong but I truly doubt that’s the case. The acquisition of Crosman is following the same pattern of all kinds of other American manufacturing that has been moved to a foreign country. Regarding Daisy guns I’ve tested, aside from my USA made 753 and the Chinese made 1101S that was under $80, that China made 880 I bought in June is a piece of garbage.

@@airgunsofalaska Neither you or me can say what happened at Crosman we aren't there. Daisy may have offered all the employees jobs at the Arkansas plant if they wanted to move. Time will tell. Well ...one of us has to be right. The only Daisy I have is the adult Red Ryder which I bought just to sting squirrels in the butt and chase them away from my bird feeders. It is what it is I guess. I had the Crosman version of that gun...the Cowboy 350, and it was just too damn small. I couldn't get my hand through the cocking lever or even my trigger finger through the trigger guard to fire it! Had it for a few weeks then Bye Bye. I have several Crosman guns...other than the 100 Anniversary 362 I bought all are lower end guns. I tried to buy the wood stock versions of the Crosmans I have if they were available. All USA made versions. I did buy several Crosman CO2 pistols that were all built in China. Yup they were junk and sent them all back. So IDK...I guess now that I am old like I said I will just buy a couple more already made in USA Crosmans I want from dealer stock then be done with it. I am like you... buy American. Guess that won't be possible anymore...unless.

@@bultacowally I very much would like if Daisy continued manufacturing Crosman guns in the USA but it’s not going to happen. Why am I so pessimistic and negative about it? It’s all in the news release. If they were going to relocate Crosman production in Arkansas they’d have announced it. They’d be hyping “made in the USA” in their press releases, how they offered Crosman factory workers jobs in the new plant, American flags and saving the country. But no, they did none of that. They’ll use cheap Chinese labor to build the future Crosman guns and the company will live on in name only. Daisy hasn’t done squat for innovation since moving production to China 20 some odd years ago. They live on in name only, same will happen with Crosman. It disappoints me as much as it pisses me off. I’d love to be wrong about this but I truly doubt I am.

@@BoggWeasel I’m guessing Gamo has taken shortcuts with these current CFX models causing them to suck compared to the older guns. I’ve read a number of comments from guys in South America who have earlier versions of these guns and they report theirs are accurate. I’m glad the gun is shooting noticeably better than it was. The process, time and effort to get it there was totally unacceptable but at least there appears to be hope.

@@BravoBassin Yeah… being stuck with it is the mother of invention. I figured why not try, could I possibly make it any worse? 😆 I think the gun is particularly difficult to shoot well consistently. My other springers are not as finicky. I find that I like the ease of cocking and even loading the gun, more so than a standard break barrel. I think at some point I’ll buy a nice German made underlever. But for now, despite all the frustration, this gun is pretty fun when I manage to get a good grouping.

@@airgunsofalaska Well i can agree that when I was able to shoot nice groups it was a fun gun to shoot and when I first got it I was excited because I did get some great groups until it when to crap and then it was all down hill from there. I am a big fan of under lever air rifles and that is why I bought the CFX in the first place. I own 2 Weihrauch underlevers the HW77K and the HW97k and both are amazing air rifles hands down. Once you do finally pull the trigger I would recommend either one but I prefer the HW77K more because it comes with open sights over the HW97K which does not but as far as build and accuracy both are top notch for sure. Anyway I do enjoy you still trying to get that CFX dialed in as it has been fun to watch your journey with it.

@@BravoBassin The HW77 or Diana 460 were the two I had in mind. I won’t be buying either anytime soon, but eventually I think I’d like to have one. You might try refinishing the crown on your CFX and see if that improves anything? I’ve got too many airguns collecting dust that didn’t live up to either the reviews, hype or my expectations. This CFX was too new for me to add it to the bunch so I kept at it.

@@airgunsofalaska I can't speak for the Diana as I do not own one yet but I can speak for the HW77k and I love mine. So far the CFX is the biggest turd of an air rifle I have ever bought. I was also not that impressed with the accuracy of my crosman 100yr anniversary air rifle either and if it was not for your video I would have never figured out to get the RWS pellets which work the best in it. But my crosman 1322 is accually more accurate then the anniversary addition one which kinda blows my mind and I love that little air rifle. anyway hope all is good up there in Alaska always wanted to at least get up there to see Alaska and do some fishing maybe one day.

@@yoitired it very likely is, but, when you’ve got a turd and are frustrated it’s easy to take a drill and grinding stone to it. 🤣😆

@@airgunsofalaska I might try that on my Vantage I don't have anything to lose!

@@yoitired I just ordered a 100 piece grinding stone set off Amazon for $15. Now I’ll have plenty of sizes to chamfer breeches and recrown muzzles. I’m going to do some more work on my CFX as I’ll have the proper conical type stone.

@@airgunsofalaska That set should last you a while! I wonder if the improvement is more from opening up the crown or just polishing it? If I get around to experimenting I'll try the fluffy dremel bit with polish first see if that helps, if not then do some grinding/widening. Seems like a very simple but effective hack I'd be up for learning more about it.

@@yoitired I’m guessing the crown had some imperfections that I was able to grind away. Once my new stone bits come in I’m going to hit it again with a conical shaped stone as I think that’ll work way better. I’m not convinced the polishing compound with fluffy swabs do anything of significance to the bore. I did that on my 367 barrel and don’t recall seeing much if any difference with accuracy.

I was watching the Spring Piston Airgun channel and he said he’s seeing Crosman guns with plastic breeches recently. I don’t see any good future for Crosman. Where did you find news articles about their lay off plans? I’ve got a really nice set up to shoot in my yard. I feel bad for Nibs at Walnut & Steel when he does longer range videos and has to go to a gun range. I wouldn’t be as I to airguns if I had to do that. Too much of a hassle.

@@airgunsofalaska It is a bit of a hassle when your packing the gear for shooting, guns and the video equipment. If we lived outside of town the way I grew up it would be nice. The reason I shoot is because I want to be out in the field away from everything. I loved to hunt deer and hogs in my younger days and miss the time in the woods. The field I shoot in and the creek/woods not far from it was my getaway, time to myself to think and unwind. Now the land near the creek and woods is bought up and the farmers fields I shoot in is slowly being sold off by the owners the farmer leased them from and housing being built around where I show. The road that leads to where I shoot had about zero traffic on it. Now there's cars about every 10 minutes. It was a small news article about Crosman closing the plant in New York and the layoffs. If I find it again I'll get a link. It showed up on my news feed about a week or so ago. Nibs is a great guy. He likes to shoot .22 rimfire which gets hard to find a place to shoot that's safe anymore. He seems to enjoy his range time like I do my field time.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 Where I’m at in Alaska our town population has actually been declining slowly, so has the state population. I’m in a rural area so it’s really easy to shoot but I don’t tend to ever shoot outside of my yard. Up here most of the big swaths of land are owned by city, state or federal government so you can wander around where you please. Of course there aren’t a whole lot of roads or trails and rivers and mountains limit accessibility to a huge extent. I was watching one of Nib’s videos this morning and he’s doing a video with airguns at a gun range and gun fire was going on nearby. He definitely has more patience than me, I wouldn’t find that to be at all enjoyable.

@@airgunsofalaska I dreamed of moving to Alaska in my younger days. So many people flocking to Texas I didn't move far enough away from Dallas and it's suburbs. Was perfect 30-35 years ago. We have some government land, but hunting only, no target shooting. Some restricted to only archery and shotgun with birdshot. That's the worst part about gun ranges in the US when you go there to shoot air rifles and do a video in sounds like a war zone. Of course there's only one small pistol range near me I can go to, but it's hard to get 20 yards there.

@@charlesoutdoors2424 We’ve got a public shooting range I dislike going to. Around 10 years ago (last time I went) I had my wife and kids and was going to show my wife how to shoot her new handgun. We were no sooner getting out of the truck when this redneck weirdo sped into the parking lot, jumps out of his beater truck and starts blasting away rapid fire with a Mini-14 or maybe is was an SKS with an aftermarket extended magazine. In any case he seemed agitated and while he didn’t say or do anything to us I didn’t feel comfortable. So we left to go shoot in an old, abandoned gravel pit. In the past 40 years more and more of these remote areas to shoot that are accessible by automobile are getting blocked off so even though I’m surrounded by open space, shooting a firearm in legally sanctioned areas has become a hassle. I’m sure it’s still much easier than the majority of areas in the lower 48 but I’m not that into it and prefer the ease and convenience of shooting airguns in my yard.

@@motorosso3349 My 80’s and 90’s vintage Daisy 880’s are much nicer guns than the current all plastic turd that comes out of China. I was shocked by how cheap the new 880 felt I bought a couple months ago.