Very relevant analysis on history. This is how Israel uses its stylized version of "history" to justify current war crimes in the name of justice and defence.
This discussion with Reed and Michaels is the best thing out on the Jacobin youtube channel yet. Extremely informative and thought provoking. Thank you very much!
It's great to hear Reed on useful history and Michaels on a conception of the present day public good without feeling like there needs to be any conflict between these two things. Neoliberals have disappeared both any concept of the public good and any useful history so thoroughly from the public realm that they can now use bad histories like "the New Deal was intrinsically racist" to dismiss class and universal politics as intrinsically racist with little challenge, so some believe that practice = buying more diversity training. And the homeless remain homeless.
11:15 it's shocking how little young people understand about unions nowadays. They've been completely expunged from the culture. Some of them don't even know what unions are. Like not at all.
All unions are not helpful for all. I refused to join a teachers public school union. I chose private schools. I have never been denied a raise or promotion. I speak up for myself. I know my worth.
@@ghoulswinnfield4692 It is the point. I've taught hundreds of children to speak for themselves. Why would I support something that doesn't support actual people. I used my own money to represent myself when my FMLA rights were violated. I won. Unions fight for you at their convenience.
@@shawndeehauskins5889 We end up chasing our tails, and can only resolve our own personal issues. Now we're back to square one: "pull yourself up by your bootstraps." That hasn't worked very well for society now has it?
Insisting on universal rights still requires a particular understanding of history to be persuasive. The race reductionists whole moral view--their sense of what is right and wrong--is deeply informed by a vision of history, which, sadly, has been sold especially frequently in academia. The real issue here is that some people want restitution only for certain racial groups based on a bad understanding of the past. Their view of history is not one that indicts capitalism per se as a problem, or is really all that concerned about class conflict (despite the many handwaves to intersectionality); rather, they view history as one relentless conflict between a dominant racial group and its subordinates and merely want the battle lines to be more equal--that is, they want the costs and benefits of living under capitalism to be shared more equally between racial groups. It is a very conservative view of history that is more or less satisfied with having more people of color in the middle and upper classes--in fact, that would be the most *moral* outcome--even if diversity effectively does nothing to address the exploitation, imperialism, and violence that maintains their class privileges. You cannot simply tell them that helping everyone is good, as they will inevitably call upon history to tell you why that never works.
These men are awesome and I will ad 1 quote from another woman who's another inspiration to me like they are, she's called Jane McAlevey: "Unions and movement building are a pain in the @ss to do but, they're totally neccessary." I've attended her organizing classes with the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung (Rosa Luxemburg Foundation) and it gave me the tools that are starting to pay of in organizing and networking. We need to build a real internationalist, anti-racist, pro-labour, self-conscious Left that kicks the Neo-Liberals and fascists in the nuts exposes them for the roaches they are and tells to roll over and die already before stomping them into the ground and kills the eggs that sprout from those roaches with education based bugspray!!
I really need to catch up on Spielberg 's stuff. He's spittin facts.
Very relevant analysis on history. This is how Israel uses its stylized version of "history" to justify current war crimes in the name of justice and defence.
This discussion with Reed and Michaels is the best thing out on the Jacobin youtube channel yet. Extremely informative and thought provoking. Thank you very much!
This may be the most potently edited clip from this conversation. And it was a good one.
I love these two's insights.
It's great to hear Reed on useful history and Michaels on a conception of the present day public good without feeling like there needs to be any conflict between these two things. Neoliberals have disappeared both any concept of the public good and any useful history so thoroughly from the public realm that they can now use bad histories like "the New Deal was intrinsically racist" to dismiss class and universal politics as intrinsically racist with little challenge, so some believe that practice = buying more diversity training. And the homeless remain homeless.
11:15 it's shocking how little young people understand about unions nowadays. They've been completely expunged from the culture. Some of them don't even know what unions are. Like not at all.
All unions are not helpful for all. I refused to join a teachers public school union. I chose private schools. I have never been denied a raise or promotion. I speak up for myself. I know my worth.
@@shawndeehauskins5889
And what did you accomplish?
That's not the point.
@@ghoulswinnfield4692 It is the point. I've taught hundreds of children to speak for themselves. Why would I support something that doesn't support actual people. I used my own money to represent myself when my FMLA rights were violated. I won. Unions fight for you at their convenience.
@@shawndeehauskins5889
We end up chasing our tails, and can only resolve our own personal issues. Now we're back to square one: "pull yourself up by your bootstraps." That hasn't worked very well for society now has it?
@@shawndeehauskins5889
My original comment was deleted for some reason..
WE LEARN BY HISTORY!
Insisting on universal rights still requires a particular understanding of history to be persuasive. The race reductionists whole moral view--their sense of what is right and wrong--is deeply informed by a vision of history, which, sadly, has been sold especially frequently in academia. The real issue here is that some people want restitution only for certain racial groups based on a bad understanding of the past. Their view of history is not one that indicts capitalism per se as a problem, or is really all that concerned about class conflict (despite the many handwaves to intersectionality); rather, they view history as one relentless conflict between a dominant racial group and its subordinates and merely want the battle lines to be more equal--that is, they want the costs and benefits of living under capitalism to be shared more equally between racial groups. It is a very conservative view of history that is more or less satisfied with having more people of color in the middle and upper classes--in fact, that would be the most *moral* outcome--even if diversity effectively does nothing to address the exploitation, imperialism, and violence that maintains their class privileges. You cannot simply tell them that helping everyone is good, as they will inevitably call upon history to tell you why that never works.
Great comment!
I wonder if the professors would disagree that we can at least learn from history what not to do
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These men are awesome and I will ad 1 quote from another woman who's another inspiration to me like they are, she's called Jane McAlevey: "Unions and movement building are a pain in the @ss to do but, they're totally neccessary." I've attended her organizing classes with the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung (Rosa Luxemburg Foundation) and it gave me the tools that are starting to pay of in organizing and networking. We need to build a real internationalist, anti-racist, pro-labour, self-conscious Left that kicks the Neo-Liberals and fascists in the nuts exposes them for the roaches they are and tells to roll over and die already before stomping them into the ground and kills the eggs that sprout from those roaches with education based bugspray!!
Dawganit! I love you guys!
Oh yes.
Conservitives: yes thats what we meant