Magnus Very Upset With Pragg's Early Sacrifice

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  • @kabthesax
    @kabthesax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1548

    Magnus even applauded Pragg and showed him a thumbs up at the end of the game! Pragg is truly a scintillating talent, looking forward to these two playing each other over the years to come.

    • @ImAnBoosterBaby
      @ImAnBoosterBaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Yes, Might turn into a relationship similar to Kasparov and Carlsen, with Pragg having the potential to become the next chess god amongst men.

    • @peyton7344
      @peyton7344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Until magnus accuses him of cheating

    • @somedude3236
      @somedude3236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@peyton7344 nah he wouldn't accuse a good player of cheating. Only people who have a history of cheating and suddenly jump 200 elo in a short time and beat all the top players out of nowhere. Two very different players.

    • @ImAnBoosterBaby
      @ImAnBoosterBaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@peyton7344 I don't know if Hans actually cheated but you must admit, him beating Magnus even thought there's a 200 Elo difference, his meteoric rise, even though he only started becoming good fairly late (in relation to other top GMs) and especially his explanations and interviews after the games are suspicious. Not condemning but definitely suspicious!

    • @Avus86
      @Avus86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@somedude3236 Totally! The scores from the official fide-page absolutely prove that. Look at the impossible rise of Niemann in contrast to some other strong players at a similar age:
      Niemann: +162
      2021-Mar 2526
      2022-Sep 2688
      Gukesh: +163
      2021-Mar 2563
      2022-Sep 2726
      Arjun: +166
      2021-Mar 2559
      2022-Sep 2725
      This is just insane!

  • @mainchar_tv
    @mainchar_tv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    Never have I ever in my life was this satisfied with a draw in chess.

    • @wingzacademy369
      @wingzacademy369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Watch morozevich vs kasparov games

    • @askthepizzaguy
      @askthepizzaguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am pretty thrilled to see when Tal or Morphy is drawn by someone who either defends amazingly well or attacks them instead. Those are fun draws, too.

    • @pandoorloki1232
      @pandoorloki1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not at all satisfying that Pragg missed Ke4.

    • @PHENN7
      @PHENN7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's "Never in my life was I this satisfied...".

    • @lukegyzzle1639
      @lukegyzzle1639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PHENN7 thank you 😂

  • @asdf123311
    @asdf123311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    agadmator: “and of course, this move -“
    Me: “- yes! That’s what I was thinking. Killer move-“
    agadmator: “-would be a terrible move”
    Me: 😓

    • @uedito
      @uedito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I feel you , you are not alone young one

    • @thabzaone3784
      @thabzaone3784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

    • @PredatorMounts
      @PredatorMounts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, he's definitely not alone, I'm pretty sure I'm in that VERY crowded room. LoL

    • @ZeufAabe
      @ZeufAabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Forking the rooks ? ;)

    • @PredatorMounts
      @PredatorMounts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZeufAabe that's a grandmaster move, right?

  • @ramachandra776
    @ramachandra776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Pragg does not seem to be wary of Magnus . he is willing to match blow for blow and not afraid to go for the jugular against Magnus .

  • @coldtruth4u
    @coldtruth4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    What a ruthless attack by Pragg, he threw the entire kitchen sink at Magnus yet he managed to survive

    • @mr.anonymous5961
      @mr.anonymous5961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ayo watched the whole stream but didn't see any of that action!

    • @mn1233
      @mn1233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      perhaps Magnus was cheating?

    • @Kaha_se_mitra13
      @Kaha_se_mitra13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mn1233 I think you're supporting niemann

    • @mn1233
      @mn1233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kaha_se_mitra13 I saw a TH-cam video that showed Magnus cheating; based on Magnus’ own standard, he should be disqualified…

    • @babu6984
      @babu6984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣Nice Funny Example

  • @CubanCubeFan
    @CubanCubeFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Magnus acknowledging Pragg was just wicked great...

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.
      Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0.
      Bobby Fischer invented 9LX.
      Hans Niemann is American (like Wesley So, Beth Harmon and Bobby Fischer).
      But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
      Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
      Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'. (Image here.)
      Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
      Additional:
      Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
      Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'.
      Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
      Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move.
      St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
      Note: This post is not (completely) serious.

    • @PKS02
      @PKS02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@nicbentulan I seriously hope you didn't spend more than 30 minutes writing that wall 😬

    • @ongemakkelijkegladjakker
      @ongemakkelijkegladjakker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nicbentulan delet this

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PKS02 When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ongemakkelijkegladjakker When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.

  • @olivercash6586
    @olivercash6586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +610

    Prag vs magnus is never boring

    • @whiskeySe7en
      @whiskeySe7en 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snooooze.

    • @rickymackie2340
      @rickymackie2340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      fighting chess!

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.
      Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0.
      Bobby Fischer invented 9LX.
      Hans Niemann is American (like Wesley So, Beth Harmon and Bobby Fischer).
      But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
      Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
      Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'. (Image here.)
      Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
      Additional:
      Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
      Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'.
      Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
      Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move.
      St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
      Note: This post is not (completely) serious.
      When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.

    • @thefighterinhades
      @thefighterinhades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@nicbentulan stop spamming.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thefighterinhades why? Magnus is a racist.

  • @alwaysup22
    @alwaysup22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    One of the most complicated games I have seen played on the channel, the dynamics from early on were just crazy. Great review Agad!

  • @KSHMRmusic
    @KSHMRmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Love the Final Fantasy VII quote 👌🏼

  • @janakiraman2317
    @janakiraman2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    You missed to include the clip where Magnus appreciated pragg by clapping and thumbs up sign... It was a rare sight!

    • @Hubythereal
      @Hubythereal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      is there a link? I want to see that

    • @janakiraman2317
      @janakiraman2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hubythereal th-cam.com/video/HIl00SYQOiM/w-d-xo.html

    • @babayada2015
      @babayada2015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hubythereal go for CBI

    • @C.Riram123
      @C.Riram123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@babayada2015 overrated

    • @Gg-ki5dn
      @Gg-ki5dn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..

  • @mihaelfitz
    @mihaelfitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The imbalance in pieces was a wild scene to behold. I guess that's what a modern opening and two rook exchanges will get you. That, and a Magnus clap of respect because you are a fearless 17-year-old. Mental game.

  • @houtarooreki9802
    @houtarooreki9802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +644

    Magnus clapping to praggu at the end serves two clear statements.

    • @lorenzomartinez8543
      @lorenzomartinez8543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      It shows that Magnus believes himself as the one who deserves to judge who is a worthy GM.

    • @sugoi9388
      @sugoi9388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He wants the support of Indian viewers

    • @noxus7462
      @noxus7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@sugoi9388 hahaha no

    • @diwaker_yadav
      @diwaker_yadav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@sugoi9388 The deserving dont need to, he's the best, he needs no backing

    • @rakeshshukla4915
      @rakeshshukla4915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      There are 75 other Indian GMs whom magnus has never clapped for and few of them have played many more games than prag. Its good for the kid dont look at it from the nation prism.

  • @jimdiroffii
    @jimdiroffii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    I think it’s somewhat more thrilling to see them play out a draw to kings.

  • @CoachJohnMcGuirk
    @CoachJohnMcGuirk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    It's really funny they played it out to the last move instead of a handshake draw. They both knew it was a draw long before the game ended.

    • @olemew
      @olemew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was surprised too, maybe it has to do with playing online? somewhat more awkward than extending your hand in real life.

  • @indianpe624
    @indianpe624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This was ridiculously good. It seemed like Pragg was Christian bale trying to climb out of the mercenaries' well in Dark knight rises. Jumping without a rope and clinging on and getting out anyway

  • @yourstruly1234
    @yourstruly1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have never seen Magnus being made to defend like this for the entire game..well done Prag..

  • @nikhilchandra9258
    @nikhilchandra9258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Probably the most entertaining draw of the year

  • @bunny-yawn
    @bunny-yawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    So early magnus hasn't resigned yet!

    • @James-vc1kc
      @James-vc1kc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Made me burst out in laughter

    • @moosa1461
      @moosa1461 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t get it

    • @collinnear3570
      @collinnear3570 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moosa1461 the thing men put on to not get women pregnant

    • @moosa1461
      @moosa1461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@collinnear3570 yes what about that, I still don’t get it😭

  • @dopecello8670
    @dopecello8670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I really enjoy the way Pragg plays

  • @vaiku8453
    @vaiku8453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Man pragg is such a legend a lot of young talent will be like let's try to get a draw out of Magnus and beat the rest but pragg is like let's push for win

  • @goose5462
    @goose5462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pragg is a beast, seems to always play interesting games.

  • @theotherjoedimaggio
    @theotherjoedimaggio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pragg will be world champion one day. He plays like one already.

    • @farazsiddiqui1312
      @farazsiddiqui1312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤦🤦🤦

    • @edward4817
      @edward4817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@farazsiddiqui1312 he is a kid and grand master stop the hate its not good he is just kid allah won't be happy with your behavior

  • @jisooya7878
    @jisooya7878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Waiting for this recap from agad...finally it's here...great coverage!!

  • @hampannashampanna33
    @hampannashampanna33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    What a game by pragg..... 👏

    • @mainchar_tv
      @mainchar_tv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      By both of them.* Imagine yourself playing in Magnus' shoes. I'd definitely get destroyed after that opening and the position Carlsen was left with.

  • @luutzennijdam7213
    @luutzennijdam7213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great play Pragnanandha, sacrificing Rooks for Knight and Bishop and creating a winning endgame in the center of the board.

  • @rajeshgunesh
    @rajeshgunesh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Pragg: Forget about beating me!

  • @sreekanth7223
    @sreekanth7223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Magnus respects who brings fight to him and make him earn his draws. Nice gesture at the end of the game.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.
      Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.
      Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0.
      Bobby Fischer invented 9LX.
      Hans Niemann is American (like Wesley So, Beth Harmon and Bobby Fischer).
      But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
      Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
      Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'. (Image here.)
      Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
      Additional:
      Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
      Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'.
      Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
      Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move.
      St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
      Note: This post is not (completely) serious.

  • @karthiksisupal4781
    @karthiksisupal4781 ปีที่แล้ว

    @13:40 "which of course you guys found, you guys are really awesome. "
    Epic. 🤣🤣

  • @harrisaxer2651
    @harrisaxer2651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I didn’t find the move but found Pragu’s move. May not be as deeply calculating as an engine but matching (by sheer luck) a GM makes me feel kinda cool!

    • @woodfinchcrafts7267
      @woodfinchcrafts7267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I saw the move immediately. Proves I was cheating - got nothing to do with how obvious it is (except to a super grandmaster)

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found the move Ke4 as I was thinking about Rook retreating to d7, HOWEVER... I didn't see the follow-up idea at all. Sad, but chess is a really hard game :/

    • @dcatast1655
      @dcatast1655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every time I find the move (like this time) I’m then disappointed because the continuation of why I chose it never matches.

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Truth Hertz yeah, the truth does hurt. That's why they are GM.

  • @markangus3252
    @markangus3252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shame that Pragg didn't find that winning moves which would have made this an epic brilliancy. Great game from Pragg.. What a talent.

  • @anonymousaxolotl
    @anonymousaxolotl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm only 900 ELO, and have been watching your videos for a few months or so now on and off. At first, my instinct was certainly to play b4 at the paused interval, but I finally found the right move with the king for once! Happy to say I am now not only enjoying the show :)

    • @shade0636
      @shade0636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good work Kurapika.

  • @cristiangamboa2037
    @cristiangamboa2037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Prag is the type of player Magnus would want to play a world Championship against. Just sone 4 or 5 years and Prag might be ready

  • @FredPlanatia
    @FredPlanatia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    it was nice to see that frustration on MC, its what you get for playing this. I wish Pragg had found the Ke4 move. It seems pretty intuitive. Centralize the king, bringing it closer to your passed pawns, and attack that rook which hardly has any squares. But hey, i'm sitting on a sofa and agad stopped the game there and asked me to find the winning move.

    • @arvindhmani06
      @arvindhmani06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And there are not already a hundred options running wild in your head right in the thick of battle against the world champion

    • @pandoorloki1232
      @pandoorloki1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arvindhmani06 If you know how to play chess you know that few options are relevant (and there aren't nearly 100 legal moves in that position).

    • @arvindhmani06
      @arvindhmani06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pandoorloki1232 Metaphor

  • @journees4300
    @journees4300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prag is showing the world who will be the future world champion.

  • @davidanderson_surrey_bc
    @davidanderson_surrey_bc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When it comes to Mag versus Pragg it's never in the bag.

  • @justushyronimusausdemnetz1024
    @justushyronimusausdemnetz1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pragg is still my favorite active player. He plays so many exciting games

  • @diarmidmoncrieff
    @diarmidmoncrieff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    agadmator: great commentary, very well done, thank you - i have enjoyed many of these.

  • @guanxi99
    @guanxi99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a bold game by Pragg!
    This is the kind of chess we want to see!!

  • @shampachakravarty9770
    @shampachakravarty9770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @okibelieveyou7553
    @okibelieveyou7553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been playing this line in Blitz for 2 years and am soooo stoked to see it appear in a gm game!

  • @docwillis1443
    @docwillis1443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wanna say I really enjoy your videos and commentary 👍👏👏👏

  • @amoldivo
    @amoldivo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    07:25 I was thinking to do exchange sacrifice Rxd3 for the bishop with check, because bishop + knight with 3 pawns advantages are definitely winning against 2 rooks! But with Rxc3, you'll at least win the bishop and 2 more pawns and the knight is threatened to be taken, and the pass e and f pawns can't compare with black's future pass pawns (a and b pawns), Prag can only choose between ab pawns or the pass h pawn, or march his e and f pawns, but it won't be easy because the king and rook is there to stop them

  • @jaxconnor623
    @jaxconnor623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Him: you guys found the winning me cuz u r awesome
    Me : didn't even consider it

  • @micahclawrence
    @micahclawrence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Two absolute geniuses duking it out

  • @adhi_r
    @adhi_r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Everyone is appreciating pragg but look at how Magnus bounced back not many could have done that

    • @ivanleon6164
      @ivanleon6164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      agree, but we also need to agree it was because an error from Prag, two true genius.

    • @virajdeshpande3701
      @virajdeshpande3701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Magnus is a multiple world champion, the highest rated player ever by ELO, considered by many the greatest of all time. Pragg is a 17-year-old future talent. Of course Pragg is going to get appreciated more.

  • @primeobjective5469
    @primeobjective5469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two titans clashing. Love it!

  • @jurjenvanderhoek316
    @jurjenvanderhoek316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:04 The white g-pawn is not a passed pawn. Black still has a pawn on h7.

  • @misterx6276
    @misterx6276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a USCF 2300+ in blitz, I can honestly say white's line with h5 is VERY effective against all players below FM in

  • @TheMarksT
    @TheMarksT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Quite the battle here. Watched this live and Magnus even applauded Pragg for his play here! Quite sporting as usual for Magnus, although still human, not being able to play Hans too! No one's perfect, but he's pretty close. Thanks Antonio for covering this game!

  • @pakemijoshua9068
    @pakemijoshua9068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pragg is something else in Rapid chess. I would to see him and Rapid world champion in several rapid games to see who is best.

  • @Sharkmoves
    @Sharkmoves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Basicly the ONLY move that keeps him in the game, Be5 is also possible 😂

    • @zenogaming9050
      @zenogaming9050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best move in any position

    • @surfingbilly9654
      @surfingbilly9654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah can't do Be5 it's obviously a forced checkmate in 65 moves.

  • @timespaice
    @timespaice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And it was in this position that Carlsen withdrew and told everyone pragg must have been cheating. He felt that Pragg was playing like Hans Niemann.

  • @takshpatel283
    @takshpatel283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 3:45 I thought I was a genius for seeing the fork that magnus couldn’t see. Lol

  • @ptbot3294
    @ptbot3294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im surprised Pragg couldnt finish that off. Seem like he had Magnus on the rope

  • @dominiquelaurain6427
    @dominiquelaurain6427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Chess spirit is back ! :-) Smartly played for both sides. Of course h4 is somewhat borderline,..,but problematic for Black in many similar pawn structures.What I like best is the way to progress in that material unbalanced position. After watching Ivanchuk interview yesterday in another channel..I am moreinterested in the tournament: maybe the different styles of play because there are more players than usual.

  • @omprakashbaruah9425
    @omprakashbaruah9425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    King to e4 move. 13:35 .
    No Agad, we are not that smart. We didn't find it.

  • @averycarty7772
    @averycarty7772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in that example at 4:46, could the queen even take that pawn? moving knight to e6 would fork the queen and rook

  • @hueguy
    @hueguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Relentless and innovative attacks met by classy defense.

  • @apexreactions4231
    @apexreactions4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woof that winning line was absolute lockdown

  • @nightwi5h959
    @nightwi5h959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's the first guess the move I've ever got on the spot, LEGGO!

  • @petescott9011
    @petescott9011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a possible response to Agamators “winning move”
    What about rxd3? Followed by cxd3-Re2#. Then the white king has to either block his own pawns, or let the black king into the position.
    If Kxd3, -Rh6, f5, Rxd6! Doubling blacks pawns. The black king could hold this while his h pawn ran for it, or if Praggs king went for the h pawn, Magnus would have plenty of time to gobble the rest.

  • @andor1988111
    @andor1988111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like everything about the channel but what about the sagas? I know there are tournaments all the time but I like tales, stories, history too

  • @josefrees
    @josefrees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love if you used screen caps of what they looked like on webcam for their portrait

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:58 Wait, this looks like they are using the scoring system from EPL, 3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss. Is that right? If so that could mean we'll see a lot more attacking chess. That was the problem with the WCC the last few years which used the old 1 for win half for draw 0 for loss system, which surprise surprise led to about 50,000 draws.

  • @sgc3594
    @sgc3594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Final Fantasy quote by Barrett??? you are the best, Agad.

  • @StephaneDesnault
    @StephaneDesnault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The engine was suggesting 13. Na4, aiming for b6, preventing Magnus from castling, as way better than 13. Nf3 - What do you think ? Magnus played 13. ... - Qa5, suggesting he was aware of that resource.

  • @Dontleavemedimi
    @Dontleavemedimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow that young man is indeed impressive. With this sort of play he might be the heir…

  • @andreaovolante3325
    @andreaovolante3325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's the difference between a truly talented player, wich never cheated and always played in high level. If Magnus didn't resigned in Hans game, Hans would be the last one of the group! That prove something too

  • @corvusmonedulas4895
    @corvusmonedulas4895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, pawn to J6. Truly innovative

  • @bulliemthembu5846
    @bulliemthembu5846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnus reacting to secretly being Hans Neimann and finding out live on steam is priceless

  • @benben77777
    @benben77777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recently Magnus said he would never play a tournament with Nieman. But now he does?!

  • @Gregory_McIntosh
    @Gregory_McIntosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:09 - "...just going all Mr. Barnes on Magnus." 😆

  • @BinxyBrown
    @BinxyBrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm an 800 rated player and my first instinct in the position was the winning king move but I also would have lost of either side 20 moves before that and even after I doubt I could win that end game

  • @CuShorts
    @CuShorts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pragg is the true heir to Magnus.

  • @adershgr
    @adershgr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prag said he learned from arjun's game against magnus that morning

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm actually surprised Pragg missed Ke4. It's an obvious move to consider first, so he must have thought something was wrong with it.

  • @john4elohim
    @john4elohim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The occasional Magnus/Pragg drama is today's rough equivalent of the immortal Fischer/Spassky rivalry - something like each being the other's equal and opposite force.

  • @chintanshah6234
    @chintanshah6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @13:00 why didn't Pragg play KxB5 instead of pawn x A6?

    • @square3453
      @square3453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      its still a draw if the black king in the corner has access

  • @trumanburbank6899
    @trumanburbank6899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent play by Pragg.

  • @michaeldiener5053
    @michaeldiener5053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was hoping for the Hans game. "1. d4 Nf6. Pause the video and win this game for Hans. ... For those of you who just want to enjoy the show, the winning move is 2. c4. ***slow-motion move *** That's the good stuff! Magnus resigned because there was ... ... everything left to be done."

  • @pradyumnaparanjape1332
    @pradyumnaparanjape1332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It had started to appear as if you had decided to show only won/lost games. Good to see this.

  • @charitrajain9617
    @charitrajain9617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pragg and magnus is the current best rivalry!

  • @SolracFS
    @SolracFS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most enjoyable! Cheers!

  • @Ben-vg6ox
    @Ben-vg6ox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like him or not Magnus definitely sees pragg differently from the rest of the GMs

  • @rebeccamasse4065
    @rebeccamasse4065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did not find Ke4, but it seems plausible one could find it if they were truly invested in the game; even at intermediate level like me.

  • @demianschultz3749
    @demianschultz3749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ivanchuk is awesome even at his age he is on fourth place

  • @jscott8100
    @jscott8100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good reply couldve been queens bishop to g4 after pragg pushed that pawn to attack the queen and then attack that pawn 3x? @agadmator?

  • @BeastKUMAR360
    @BeastKUMAR360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:45 prag could have blocked black's rook vision by playing bishop to f5

  • @pandoorloki1232
    @pandoorloki1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand why Pragg didn't play Ke4, the most natural move on the board.

  • @TomJones-tx7pb
    @TomJones-tx7pb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had white played 13. Na5 (as others have commented), white would secure b6 for the knight with a quick win in sight. The tactical justification, which the engines would not suggest, is that 13.. Nxe5 14. fe5 Bxa4 fails to 15. Qg4 forking the two bishops, and white will consolidate his development to a position where black is helpless.

  • @herman1francis
    @herman1francis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's hilarious that agadmator tells us that we totally found the move a super gm missed because we are awesome while Levy tells us : you are all 800 of course you didn't see it

    • @applesteve6932
      @applesteve6932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agadmator is just one of us who had the knowledge and dedication to build this channel (and I do think it is the best chess channel on the interwebs).
      The other guy just has a different background and it comes across in his attitude.

    • @herman1francis
      @herman1francis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@applesteve6932 I like both. They have different perspectives. Levy is brash and cynical for content purposes but he is not arrogant

    • @banshinath8773
      @banshinath8773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @sebastianrex6697
    @sebastianrex6697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnus resigned against hans and applauded Prag after the hard fought draw he is making a statement.period.

    • @askthepizzaguy
      @askthepizzaguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I fully support that statement. He's congratulated basically everyone who has ever beaten him while he was world champion and well before that, a decade of good sportsmanship.
      Hans is the exception for lots of reasons, including the fact that he admitted to cheating, and then was banned for additional games cheated he didn't admit to, and doesn't understand the game he beat magnus in.
      If I used an engine to beat Magnus, I would not be able to answer questions about how I did it. That's Hans, although he is legitimately some kind of grandmaster on top of it.

    • @sebastianrex6697
      @sebastianrex6697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@askthepizzaguy well said,Let the truth prevail..

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful battle. And nice comeback from being down. Amazing I guess the king move.

  • @zebra3stripes
    @zebra3stripes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor opening preparation by Magnus. He missed the move k9 to sofa before turning on his camera.

  • @John_NYT
    @John_NYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found the king e4 move in 3 seconds. Didn’t actually calculate anything, it just looked really natural. Surprised pragg didn’t find it.

  • @drazenano409
    @drazenano409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:39 oh wow I would've did that without thinking

  • @UnknownUser-j3n
    @UnknownUser-j3n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It couldn't have been simpler, the pause the video moment, there wasnt anything else to play.

  • @martinskoda8725
    @martinskoda8725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I reallz enjoyed this wild and positional game...one if the best and interesting game of the year 👍

  • @anthonyg1111
    @anthonyg1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If ...Qc5 at 4:55, why not Ne6 to trade the knight for rook ?

  • @bargiona
    @bargiona 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ke4 is a move only Niemann could find