All the information told is public information. Please refrain from leaving hate comments to either skater. Enjoy their skating for what it was and what it is now with their current partners. Thank you!
Honestly it's tragic. V&V were on track to be future gold medalists. Skaters this young should keep relationships professional. I wish the fans understand this. The insane amount of posts desperate for them to be in love definitely contributed to fueling the tension between this team.
yeah I think the incessant ships also add to the pressure. I think they could've maintained pro relationship after the breakup but the pressure from the fans may have broken them. The constant speculations, leading questions must have been too much at one point
They couldn’t help falling in love with each other when they did. It wouldn’t be fun skating with your ex though especially when you’re portraying being in love.
The adults on their team should have advised them to remain professional instead of starting a relationship in the first place until they were older and more sure of their intentions and had the emotional maturity to handle a new relationship under such public scrutiny and stress. Relationships at that age are often fleeting and that's normal. While I'm happy that neither is in an uncomfortable situation anymore this should have been handled differently from the start.
You guys talk as if the "adults in their life" could actually control that. Haven't you been a teenager? Try and keep them professional and separated if they don't want to.
@@TaliVarda100706 I'd love to say that too but if the years of Virtue/Moir and Yuzuvier taught us anything is that if ppl want to ship athletes then they WILL
An engineered relationship of teenagers in a highly competitive sport, who have to deal with millions watching their every move? Who would have thought it would end in drama! Shocking!
As I listened to the whole story, I feel jealousy here. Galaxy comes from their coi. Honestly, think she was the contributing factor. Plus we had 3 against 1 VS the coach vasilisa and her mother against only valaria and that contract. That contract was b******* Everybody knows it. Everything is theater that weren't even negotiable. That's a federation took care of and paid for and head a ruler, no, no n
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I agree. They are just kids. Can you imagine going through puberty in a sport that demands body to body contact and told to create an image (chemistry) of being in love?! That would be hard for adult couples! Then add in the ‘Shippers!’ Poor kids 🥺 they really needed Adult help in navigating through these complexities. I wish them both great success and victories for their future 🥰
I hate it when people treat irl teenagers as characters of a netflix show. The moment people, specially fans who knew nothing of the sport, started shipping them, i felt bad for both of them. I truely did fear that them getting into a relationship could potentially end their career together and then all my fears came true. I'm so sad we lost such an amazing couple on ice. But at least vasilisa and Maxim look very promising. Haven't seen much of Valery and his partner but truely hope the best for them. Once again... There is just something with this sport and child abuse (of so pany different kinds...)they seem inseparable...
These kids both have insanely attractive faces so I'm really not surprised that they got shipped together. Unfortunately, when two people look good together, shippers tend to not give a shit about whether or not their personalities match. It sounds like they had a really toxic relationship that wasn't healthy for either of them, but as long as two people are gorgeous, shippers don't care how much they have to suffer to stay together.
A great insight… And not just skating… movies, office, police, legal, musicians, public service, military, civilian etc Just because people, no matter the situation, interact well, have chemistry and are “attractive” doesn’t mean they are in a romantic relationship! And so what if they were in a relationship? Relationship dynamics change… and whether you’re a fan or family, friends etc… you don’t get to interfere, cancel, censure….
i kinda laughed about the 3 categories of ice dancers, and I would propose a 4th: 1. Romantic 2. Siblings 3. Exes 4. One (or both) of them is (are) gay The 4th one is more prominent than people realize: I mean, just look at Lila fear and Lewis Gisbon or Papadakis and Cizeron!
This is so true lol! I don't mean to stereotype, but all of my male friends who are into ice skating are gay. Though I'd imagine that it might be a bit different in Russia where the sport makes you a celebrity. My understanding is that it's seen as a cool thing for straight boys to do with potential for government earnings, so a lot of parents sign their kids up regardless of gender.
What does their personal sexual preferences or orientation, in a relation to gendered attraction, have to do with their chemistry? There's something relevant about the three types of chemistry listed in the video for ice dancers, you're just yapping about sexuality where it makes no sense. Those dancers you listed are friends/teammates/partners, or bonded in some way regardless of them being gay lmao, it's not like one being gay or both of them being gay would make them closer somehow. Your proposal is very tryhard. And those sets aren't really known for their chemistry, anyways. Just because it's prominent doesn't mean it means anything, there's plenty of gay people in the skating world so it's inevitable; there's also way more of a plenty of straight people, so it's inevitable that most partners are going to be straight. You people need to stop putting such an emphasis on being gay or straight or whatever because you can never logically explain how it matters.
@@taylorg2320 it's not seen as a cool thing for straight boys, what does that even mean?! Okay, at this point, you're just pulling things out of nowhere and it's getting absurd. Nor is it a gender thing lmao, so why wouldn't they regardless of gender? Y'all are narrow minded as hell. You're being weird for no reason and applying some random theory that doesn't make sense, it's just a respectable sport that garnered Russia a lot of popularity and also has a lot of Slav historical background and roots. I'm still stuck on the "cool thing for straight boys" thing, and how you somehow connected that to government earnings in Russia.
@@AneXineohp You sound extremely chronically online. As much as I wish the world wasn't still incredibly heteronormative, young boys absolutely do still get bullied by their peers for engaging in "feminine" sports. Denying it won't make it different. So, if given a choice, a lot of straight guys don't feel strongly about participating in these sports due to peer pressure from their friends. Gay boys are usually the ones who defy the odds and do what they enjoy regardless of what their peers think, so they end up being predominantly the ones who participate in these sports in first world countries. I come from an eastern european country with a culture extremely similar to Russia. I don't know where you come from, but in countries like mine, potential for salary and government earnings make certain hobbies and sports much more desirable, it removes any stigma associated with it. That's because we're all fucking poor. If fashion design had the potential for government funding, all parents would be signing their kids up for it, regardless of whether they're girls or boys. That's because parents will use any opportunity to have their kids make money. That can lead to a country like mine having a higher percentage of straight guys in perceived "feminine" sports than you would have in a country where young kids aren't expected to think about earning an income. In countries where kids get to choose what they want to do and aren't forced into sports with government funding potential, you won't see a lot of young boys choosing a sport that will get them ostracized or made fun of. But in places like eastern europe, the kids don't get to choose. The parents make that decision if the government will fund it. As someone who is trans and gay, you sound absolutely insufferable to be around. Just an all around horrible person, with no perception or knowledge of anything outside of your tiny bubble of privilege. Absolutely fucking get over yourself, get off twitter and read a book about cultures that aren't your own. I don't fucking want people like you defending or representing the LGBTQ community, you make things worse for all of us.
@@Vizible21 No, what she meant was that they weren’t ice dancers, but Olympic gold medal figure skaters. I think they call them figure skating pairs? Which means the did jumps in their routines.
People need to understand this sport is a job. It’s like acting or dancing. Assuming someone is in a romantic relationship and pushing them is what draws them apart. It makes things awkward.
I don’t think it necessarily pushes them that way, but yes, I agree that the best teams can compartmentalize their skating persona and relationship and their private relationship. Could they fall in love with each other ? Sure they have their hands on each other all day long, but hopefully they don’t give in to those urges ; at least not for several years when maturity in handling a break up in private life will not actually cause the break up in their partnership.
Obnoxious people on the internet (TikTok) just will get obsessed with things/people and will create an image about them and assume they know everything. I feel bad for the skaters. Reality and people's real lives are not a romance book/fanfic. Stop romanticizing relationships. There isn't a perfect one and most of the time social media doesn't depict real life.
Great story! However: 1. Gordeeva and Grinkov were pair skaters, not ice dancers. They did have chemistry in their skating though. 2. Valeriy Angelopol is a nephew of Oleg Ovsyannikov, Anjelika Krylova's ice dance partner in sport, so it wasn't hard for Valery to find his way into her group for the reasons very much known. It is still unclear why she sided with Vasilisa over her family member, rumours are they are incompatible in their views towards training methods. 3. Evgeniy Pluschenko is known for picking up skaters who left other camps, regardless of the reasons they left. So it's no surprise he called Valeriy.
Academy of Pluschenko is a private school and rather expensive, while Angelica Krylova is a coach in a federal school. In fact, it means, that Valeri trains for free in Pluschenko's school only until he wins competitions and stays in TOP-6 at Russian Nationals. He won't be in TOP-6 with his new partner not this year, not next year. It is expected, that he will compete with juniors this season, because it is the only way for him to qualify for the national team and get money from Federation (the best junior pair usually gets into the national team). So, Valeriy will be ok this year, but next year... With his new partner he has got no chances for adult TOP-6. And I don't think Pluschenko will train him for free.
@@Arimbi-fol с загублением своей карьеры Валера неплохо справился и сам, потому что все-таки основная его проблема - это отсутствие подходящей партнёрши и потеря места в очереди. Их с Василисой место уже заняли Хавронина и Нарижный, а за следующий сезон в очереди закрепятся Горелкины, Рыбакова/Махноносов, Щербакова/Гончаров, Кагановская/Некрасов и Пасечник/Чиризано. Куда он потом втиснется с Сашей Шинкаренко, ну я не знаю. Допустим, с Сашей поработают над скольжением и техникой, но такое есть у нас, Хавронина, Рыбакова и Щербакова всё равно катят лучше. Хорошей партнёрши для Валеры, увы, нет. Спасти Валеру могла бы Анна Щербакова, она миниатюрная, красивая, яркая. Но у неё с Егором вроде неплохо идет
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i know this is skating, but as a kpop fan, i can say this happens in the kpop industry too. fans have ruined so many friendships because they are deluded. if a male idol even breathes near a female artist, people will go crazy and ship them. its so sad. these artists cant even interact with each other anymore.
Whoever Vasilisa skates with, I can't take my eyes off her. She is amazing. So talented, hard-working and beautiful. Maxim is very lucky to have her as his partner
Great video, I'd love some more storytelling type videos for skaters still competing internationally. I think Piper/Paul would be a great one after Piper's recovery from cancer, or the history making Deanna/Maxime because of how many challenges they've both overcome.
VALERA SERÍA EL IDEAL PATINADOR PARA CANADÁ RUSIA TIENE MUCHOS PATINADORES Y VALERA NO TIENE FUTURO ASÍ QUE VALERA TIENE QUE MIRAR A OTRO PAÍS CON OTRA BANDERA
Krylova took Valeriy to her team because he is a nephew of her skating partner Oleg Ovsyannikov, with whom she won Olympic silver medal, so its obvious why she agreed to became his coach actually. Also Maxim didnt left Arina to skate with Vasilisa, they already broken up in 2021, he was skating for a year with his new partner Liza, and Arina didnt skate at all for 2 years, before agreeing to try to skate with Valeriy
Valery era un giovane molto promettente e poi abbiamo visto quanto sia servita quella parentela ,a nulla la crilova l ha fatto cacciare dalla federazione un errore grave x nascondere forse i suoi di errori
@@annamaggi4867во-первых, Крылова выгнала его только из своей группы, на что имеет полное право, после его поступка. Никакого влияния на федерацию, чтобы портить ему жизнь, она не оказывала. Во-вторых, тут очевидно, что проблема в Валере, ведь даже его дядя Овсянников в интервью не стал его защищать, а наоборот, сказал, что у Валеры очень тяжелый характер и с ним никто не может справиться
@@tatyanamorgoeva8806да, сказал. Но суть в том, что если бы Валера был жертвой обстоятельств и злой Крыловой, разве его родной дядя не защитил бы его в интервью и не сказал бы, что Валера ни в чем не виноват? А раз он этого не сделал, то можно сделать определенные выводы
@@annamaggi4867had he handled the break up with grace… ie said we felt it is better for our future to end this partnership due to our personalities becoming incomparable, or we grew apart, would have been ok. To state that Vasilisa was hard to train, and treated him poorly, and bad work ethic was the nail on his coffin. It was seen as his being vindictive and trying to ward off future partners… that is what made him unmarketable to other coaches. I’m sure he expected a partner to land on his lap quickly. Arina was the best choice and he should have made it work. Hopefully, Sasha will work out.
I hate that everyone is mad at him bc we don't know what *actually* happened and they were just kids with the whole world forcing this onto them. And the fact she confessed and he was hesitant makes me raise an eyebrow at her too, but again, we don't really know anything. I hope one day once they both mature more they can make up a least a bit.
Nekrasov did not leave Arina for Vasilisa, Arina left him in 2022, he was skating with Pasechnik for a year because it was his option at the time. They both broke up mutually when Kaganovskaya and Cirizhano became available.
@@ИринаХакимова-ъ8ъ pfft he didn't, their coach already said that liza got tired training with him maybe because of his speed and skills that she can't seem to go at his level liza already said it in the past season, how there's still a lot of work for her because maxim is a strong ice dancer and if there were negative feelings in their break up, vasilisa, liza, and maxim wouldn't be interacting on Instagram liking each other posts. vasilisa also said that it's not in her principle and dislikes the most that couples break up just for the sake of getting partnered with "someone better" which is what being thrown at maxim. it was a healthy and mutual break up stop spreading false information lol
@@ИринаХакимова-ъ8ъ Ирина,, Я вижу, что в фигурном катании вы не эксперт, так почему вы так болеете за Валерия? Нельзя же так отрываться от реальности, у людей глаза есть.Некрасов во всех аспектах профессионально лучше Ангелопола. Если в артистической части , возможно, Ангелопол имел превосходство, то теперь , в паре с Кагановской, Некрасов ему по крайней мере не уступает. Про технику и говорить смысла нет.
@@Letyaga1 это Вы видимо не разбираетесь, если считаете аморфного Максима, лучше харизматичного и техничного Валерия. Достоинства Максима - рост и покладистый характер. Что скажут- то и делает. Нет в его катании ни пластики, ни эмоций, как робот запрограммированный на определенный набор движений. У Валерия непростой характер,но он фигурист от Бога в его катании есть все- техника, пластичность, эмоции.
I'm sure that if it weren't for first the pandemic and then the ban on Russians from competing, this couple would still be together now. They had too few competitions and inspiring victories and too much free time.
But this is like saying "if only this couple didn't have a life, other friends, hobbies, or a single distraction aside from one another, they'd still be together." It sounds like they had a pretty toxic relationship and just weren't a good match. It's very telling that they never got back together after their initial breakup, most teenagers are very on and off, but they simply just made the professional partnership work for as long as they could. It sounds like they fought a lot before the relationship, during the relationship, and after the relationship.
so true! If they felt what international success is (and no one doubts they would have one, right?), they would have never separated. Because they've worked so hard for years and it was absolutely foolish to not have the pay off. I'm still heartbroken.
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Валера выбрал себе в пару Василису и они тренировались 5 лет и он не хотел с ней расставаться... Но девочка повзрослела и ей понравился Макс, она начала уделять ему внимание, сердцу не прикажешь... Своим поведением доводила влюблённого Валерия до ревности, дипрессии, тем более раньше у них были отношения, предложила Василиса. Надеюсь, что было дальше всем понятно и не надо обвинять Валеру и его маму в распаде пары... Все стали Валеру обливать грязью, что как он мог, так поступить с бедной девочкой... Это она его поменяла на другого, это она выставила один лист ОБОЮДНОГО контракта в интернет... Их содержание оплачивала Федерация. И все кинулись на Валерия - сколько гадостей ему пришлось перенести, - врагу не пожелаешь... Да тренер выгнала его, но на лёд его никуда не пускали... Началась травля... Хотя не так давно все восхищались его талантом и говорили, что у него большое будущее... Возможно поэтому и уничтожили?!?
yes! honestly people are reading too much into it, this is a natural thing to happen in any career path or anything of the sort, they both had they faults but like… they’re teenagers let’s also not expect that much yk? + they’re both super talented, let’s focus on that, cheer on their careers and if nostalgia hits, go back to old performances
@@luisabolado I get he shouldn’t have reacted that way but he didn’t deserve the hate and there’s this instagram that always posts about him and Sasha (his skating partner ) making fun of them more valeriy and it piss me off that I blocked them like valeriy and vasilisa don’t skate together leave him alone he literally talked about the effects of the break up in interview
@@khadijah55555 omg yeah that is totally not ok! actually, my comment was to reaffirm yours, because nobody deserves hate in a situation that just doesn’t merit it
I know some people say “ he kissed her after everything, so why not ship them “ he kissed her as saying “ we did it! “ they had friendship love. I miss them skating together but all the pressure of skating and having to keep the chemistry alive is stressful. Having to skate as exes everyday had to be so hard. Having to see the person yyou used to love but having to still hold a relationship and have to have chemistry is hard. It’s almost been a year since the break and I still miss them❤
Thank you for this amazing video! Amazing work! I'm really hoping that this situation has taught many of the young people on tik tok, that just because a relationship looks picture-perfect and amazing on social media doesnt mean there aren't issues behind the scenes.
man i will continue to watch both of them tbh but i rlly like the way vasilisa has handled it all and i follow her socials a lot Valeriy doesn’t post as much but i follow him too i wish them both the best in their future careers although i think from what ive seen them skating tg looks the most magical even compared to their current partners
В чем их токсичность? Они же притягивают. Так на своего партнёра может смотреть только юность,поэтому столько интереса. Максим на нее так уже не посмотрит.Не сможет даже сыграть
I believe he came up with that contract just so he could leave the partnership. It must’ve been so bad for him that he resorted to a ridiculous contract in order to break up with his partner.
TODO EL MUNDO SABE QUE LO DEL CONTRATO FUE UNA MALAA JUGADA DE VASILISA Y QUE SOLO ENSEÑO UNA HOJA PARA LASTIMAR TODO LO POSIBLE A VALERA Y ESO LO SABEE TODO EL MUNDOOOO COMO SE PUEDE SER TAN MALAS PERSONAS Y INVENTARSE COSAS TAN MALAS PARA HACER DAÑO A OTRA PERSONA ESA CHICA LO TIENE QUE PAGAR
ИХ 17:01 @@manuelmoya8381 ИХ СОДЕРЖАНИЕ ОПЛАЧИВАЛА ФЕДЕРАЦИЯ. ВАЛЕРА ЧЕСТНЫЙ, ИСКРЕННИЙ И ПОРЯДОЧНЫЙ ЧЕЛОВЕК И ЕМУ НЕ НУЖНЫ БЫЛИ ПОКУПКИ ЗА СЧЁТ ВАСИЛИСЫ... Василиса начала уделять внимание Максу и у неё появилось желание встать в пару с Максом... Она своим поведением доводила Валеру до ревности, депрессии и он не находил выхода из сложившейся ситуации... Надеюсь, больше ничего объяснять не надо... Дальше всё шло по плану..
The most heartbreaking thing was there were possibly Olympic hopefuls or on the national team trials were just a few weeks away from their separation. They had the routine and costumes already completed too :(
I know nothing about ice skating but I watched this video till the end. This video should be taught as a storytelling & video editing lesson in TH-cam courses.
Maxim didn’t leave Arina Ushakova to skate with Vasilisa, they had stopped skating together long before. He left Liza Pasechnik, his new partner. Pasechnik is now skating with Dario Chirizano, who was the main rival for Kaganovskaya/Angelopol a few years ago when Chirizano was skating with Irina Khavronina (they won gold at Youth Olympics in 2020). But Khavronina left him for skating with her boyfriend David Narizhny who also has left two partners in two years. Russian ice dance is not for beginners 😂
So your telling me he saw her on tv wanted to skate with her skated with her grew closer together fell in love broke up but still pretended to be together while fighting bts for the fans then scandalously splitting as skating partners Then their new skating partners used to skate together I need a book a book where they end up together at the end please!!!!!!
Да,не притворялся он.Они росли вместе.Она даже зарегистрирована в квартире семьи Валеры.Она для него целая жизнь в таком возрасте.Они были вместе 24*7.Это не игра.И отпустить нельзя и остаться невозможно.Он проявил бескомпромиссность и навредил себе.Когда вам 19 лет,то что значит 5 лет из них-целая жизнь.Здесь вина тренера.
@@Seta-z7n привет, видимо, моя полоса дуолинго бесполезна, поэтому я использую Google Translate, так что простите меня, если это неправильно, но я просто хочу сказать, что мне бы хотелось знать причину, по которой тренер сделал это, как будто у меня есть парень, который чувствует, что они найдут друг друга в конец, будь то партнерство или что-то большее, но так неприятно думать, что человек, которому ты доверял, любил и с которым вырос, предаст тебя на таком глубоком уровне
I was waiting for you to talk about them 😭 I'm honestly routing for both of them, I've seen what vasilisa and maxim can do, I'm excited to see what valeriy and Sasha are going to come out with ❤
This is why Virtue Moir are untouchable.. they were able to resist all the social/pr pressure on them and be on the top for 20 years together.. iron ice dance legendary couple, no one will surpass them I think for a very long time
I had been watching them periodically every season. I can't say that I didn't see this coming, because I did. Kids who get together so young rarely stay with each other. It is a natural process. The shipping of fans is expected, so I don't think this exaggerated the situation...it just prolonged the break up. I hope that she an Maxim stay professional even with the difficulty of staying as such due to the nature of your have to act in love, eventually you may fall in love for real. Hopefully, this won't happen to them because I see them being so dynamic together. Wishing both couples the best and lots of success. I hope people stop being hateful to Val and to Max who has gotten some awful hate since his pairing with Vas occurred
This was amazing! A well-structured and well-paced video essay, this’ll be a great introduction to the situation for those who came in on the backend and are new to Russian figure skating drama. Glad to see you’re back & doing the kind of content that makes you fulfilled! 💖
YO CREO QUE VALERA LO VOLVERÁ HACER Y ME REFIERO HACER QUE MILLONES DE PERSONAS VOLVEMOS HACER FELICES VIENDO UNA PAREJA DE ENSUEÑOS Y ES QUE VALERA ES ÚNICO UN CHICO COMPLETO COMO A CUALQUIER MUJER LE GUSTARÍA TENER ❤❤
I discovered your videos yesterday and have binged them. I’m not even that into figure skating but I love your voice. Your deep dive videos are the best. You do for FS what Femloraps does for Football. Keep it up!
Взрослые могли, при желании, не допустить развала пары... Но каким-то взрослым захотелось сделать звёздную пару КН и они сделали, посчитали, что у новой пары больше возможностей для побед.🏆
This is social media at its worst as people from different backgrounds are obsessed with getting as much attention as possible to increase their popularity. For people like influencers & couples channels it’s all about making as much money as possible by selling merchandise & endorsements. It’s all very calculating yet people watching them are conned into believing it’s real. With idols, actors, celebrities, it’s about increasing their popularity but it’s a two way street as the problem is then that fans think they own these people. Especially in the case of idols where their fanbase makes or breaks them, & with actors/actresses that play couples in movies or on TV shows fans can’t separate their fictional characters from real life. Even down to ice dancers, they want the attention but then the fans become obsessed putting to much pressure on such a young couple all because again they can’t seperate them playing characters on the ice from their real life. Social media is disturbing & toxic on so many levels.
How have we as a society still not realized that chemistry does not equal romance?? 😑 they were lovely ice dancers together. Sad that it has ended but wishing them well!
They are both very talented. I wish them personal growth and success in the future. As some here already mentioned, they are still very young and they are just humans. Who knows what happened in detail and I don’t blame them that they once fell in love. They are young and it’s surely not easy to not fall in love when you are working so close together with all those emotions,etc. Loved to see them together 🤩✨
Mon Dieu quelle histoire !! Très difficile . Tout mon soutien à Valeriy dans cette épreuve qui fut tellement difficile sur ses épaule de jeune homme qui commence sa vie et sa carrière. Dieu de protège et t’ouvre toutes les portes du succès. 🙏🙏🙏❤️
I can't imagine working long hours with someone of the opposite sex and not becoming super close. Taking the step to put the relationship up a level is normal. IMO.
ESTÁS MUY EQUIVOCADA YA QUE EN ESTE CASO QUIÉN SE FUE Y DIO LA ESPALDA SIN PENSARLO DE UN SEGUNDO A OTRO FUE VASILISSA ASÍ QUE NADA DE CONFESIONES ADEMÁS DICHO POR ELLA MISMA Y DE QUÉ ESTÁ SÚPER ENAMORADA DE MAXIM ASÍN QUE NO CULPES A VALERA QUE NO TIENE NADA QUE VER CON ESTO AL CONTRARIO VALERA FUE ABANDONADO HUMILLADO Y MALTRATADO POR ESTA GENTE😢😢
Sounds like people loved their love story like my generation loved the connection of gordeeva and grinkov. There just will never be a tragic love story like theirs imo.
@@susanemars8656 just the endless shipping. it probably made them really uncomfortable and even after tessa is now married and pregnant, there are people still shipping her with scott.
@@Hi-lu5vf that is just plain disrespectful tbh and I get why Scott kept his relationship secret until they retire because can you imagine the sheer hate his partner (and Tessa's too) would've gotten from the fans. I mean we saw how (although not pair or ice dance) Hanyu's marriage fell apart due to sheer pressure either from press or stans
@@savanahbabyyyy Shi is better with a man that give up a full year of national team salary just to skate with her , than with a child who ask her to pay for everything Not to mention that Maxim is 💯% better in technique than Valera and his hieght is more sutible with Vas how already is taller than val
@@Elong.when a said fire what i want to said is that they are amazing and transmit a lot of chemistry for a Couple Tha has been together less than a year a show a Lot tecnical potencial, nothing to do if their in a relationschip or just friends
I’m always living under a rock so I didn’t know about this. Anyway, from a total external prospective: what a shame, they were the perfect skating couple in terms of body proportions and aesthetic, very rare to find someone who suits you this well, and also they are both extremely good looking and had great chemistry on ice (which comes from similar interpretation and expressiveness though gestures, in short they speak the same body language) AND they skate at the same level, another not so given similarity. So all in all a tragic loss for the sport, I would say this proves that teenagers shouldn’t mingle something so important with hormones but 1. We already knew 2. Nothing we can do about it… except for DO NOT SPAM real people, especially teenagers, with your fantasies, they can definitely hurt.
Valery said that hi dint't leave the house for a month after they anaounce their break up on Augusto 31 bud he went to the skating text event on September 17 Maxim dint't leave Arina for Vasilisa, instead was Arina who left him a year before and hi have to skate with a new girl name Elisabetha in 2023
All the information told is public information. Please refrain from leaving hate comments to either skater. Enjoy their skating for what it was and what it is now with their current partners. Thank you!
Quero encontrar ele seja com quem esteja. Onde o encontro ?
Enjoy and be extremely fair to all participants in this not completely fair situation !
Honestly it's tragic. V&V were on track to be future gold medalists. Skaters this young should keep relationships professional. I wish the fans understand this. The insane amount of posts desperate for them to be in love definitely contributed to fueling the tension between this team.
yeah I think the incessant ships also add to the pressure. I think they could've maintained pro relationship after the breakup but the pressure from the fans may have broken them. The constant speculations, leading questions must have been too much at one point
They couldn’t help falling in love with each other when they did. It wouldn’t be fun skating with your ex though especially when you’re portraying being in love.
The adults on their team should have advised them to remain professional instead of starting a relationship in the first place until they were older and more sure of their intentions and had the emotional maturity to handle a new relationship under such public scrutiny and stress. Relationships at that age are often fleeting and that's normal. While I'm happy that neither is in an uncomfortable situation anymore this should have been handled differently from the start.
You guys talk as if the "adults in their life" could actually control that. Haven't you been a teenager? Try and keep them professional and separated if they don't want to.
Its all because of Krylova. Im sure Valeriy wiil be successful, not sure about Kaganovskaya
Lesson Learned: Never forget that the athletes you're shipping are real people, doubly so if they're teenagers.
I would say let's just not ship people period. Especially teen athletes, it's creepy. People need to learn how to live in reality.
@@TaliVarda100706 I'd love to say that too but if the years of Virtue/Moir and Yuzuvier taught us anything is that if ppl want to ship athletes then they WILL
They still young feeling changes times goes on
An engineered relationship of teenagers in a highly competitive sport, who have to deal with millions watching their every move? Who would have thought it would end in drama! Shocking!
peeta and katniss core
@@r1ddhim4IM DEAD
Bahaha. Like I never saw that coming. 🙄 /sarcasm
Aberații....ia-ți vazut😢făcând sex? Nu ..
As I listened to the whole story, I feel jealousy here.
Galaxy comes from their coi. Honestly, think she was the contributing factor. Plus we had 3 against 1 VS the coach vasilisa and her mother against only valaria and that contract. That contract was b******* Everybody knows it. Everything is theater that weren't even negotiable. That's a federation took care of and paid for and head a ruler, no, no n
You guys, please dont hate on Valeriy. They are just teens. Imagine the pressure all this situation has caused them.
XCHÉ ODIARE VALERY QUANDO È LUI KE HA PAGATO X TUTTI?VASILISA SI È PRESA GIOCO DEI SUOO SENTIMENTI ,LO HA RICHIAMATO A SÉ E POI ESATTAMENTE 3 MESI DOPO LO HA SCARICATO FORSE X VENDETTA ,FORSE L ALLENATORE E LA RAGAZZA NN SONO STATI LEALI CON LUI TANTO DA PROVARR CON MAXIM A SUA INSAPUTA 13:30
@@annamaggi4867 i don't get what you're saying?
I agree. They are just kids. Can you imagine going through puberty in a sport that demands body to body contact and told to create an image (chemistry) of being in love?! That would be hard for adult couples! Then add in the ‘Shippers!’ Poor kids 🥺 they really needed Adult help in navigating through these complexities.
I wish them both great success and victories for their future 🥰
@@tanyaford8458 me too!
@@aura9720VASILISA è stata disonesta nei confronti di VALERIY....hai capito adesso?
Lovers to enemies is crazy 😭
My new favorite trope 😈
@@The-Mediator Fr!!!
I hate it when people treat irl teenagers as characters of a netflix show. The moment people, specially fans who knew nothing of the sport, started shipping them, i felt bad for both of them. I truely did fear that them getting into a relationship could potentially end their career together and then all my fears came true. I'm so sad we lost such an amazing couple on ice. But at least vasilisa and Maxim look very promising. Haven't seen much of Valery and his partner but truely hope the best for them. Once again... There is just something with this sport and child abuse (of so pany different kinds...)they seem inseparable...
The internet is a poison and gives morons a voice.
These kids both have insanely attractive faces so I'm really not surprised that they got shipped together. Unfortunately, when two people look good together, shippers tend to not give a shit about whether or not their personalities match. It sounds like they had a really toxic relationship that wasn't healthy for either of them, but as long as two people are gorgeous, shippers don't care how much they have to suffer to stay together.
A great insight…
And not just skating… movies, office, police, legal, musicians, public service, military, civilian etc
Just because people, no matter the situation, interact well, have chemistry and are “attractive” doesn’t mean they are in a romantic relationship!
And so what if they were in a relationship? Relationship dynamics change… and whether you’re a fan or family, friends etc… you don’t get to interfere, cancel, censure….
i kinda laughed about the 3 categories of ice dancers, and I would propose a 4th:
1. Romantic
2. Siblings
3. Exes
4. One (or both) of them is (are) gay
The 4th one is more prominent than people realize: I mean, just look at Lila fear and Lewis Gisbon or Papadakis and Cizeron!
This is so true lol! I don't mean to stereotype, but all of my male friends who are into ice skating are gay. Though I'd imagine that it might be a bit different in Russia where the sport makes you a celebrity. My understanding is that it's seen as a cool thing for straight boys to do with potential for government earnings, so a lot of parents sign their kids up regardless of gender.
What does their personal sexual preferences or orientation, in a relation to gendered attraction, have to do with their chemistry? There's something relevant about the three types of chemistry listed in the video for ice dancers, you're just yapping about sexuality where it makes no sense. Those dancers you listed are friends/teammates/partners, or bonded in some way regardless of them being gay lmao, it's not like one being gay or both of them being gay would make them closer somehow. Your proposal is very tryhard. And those sets aren't really known for their chemistry, anyways. Just because it's prominent doesn't mean it means anything, there's plenty of gay people in the skating world so it's inevitable; there's also way more of a plenty of straight people, so it's inevitable that most partners are going to be straight. You people need to stop putting such an emphasis on being gay or straight or whatever because you can never logically explain how it matters.
@@taylorg2320 it's not seen as a cool thing for straight boys, what does that even mean?! Okay, at this point, you're just pulling things out of nowhere and it's getting absurd. Nor is it a gender thing lmao, so why wouldn't they regardless of gender? Y'all are narrow minded as hell. You're being weird for no reason and applying some random theory that doesn't make sense, it's just a respectable sport that garnered Russia a lot of popularity and also has a lot of Slav historical background and roots.
I'm still stuck on the "cool thing for straight boys" thing, and how you somehow connected that to government earnings in Russia.
@@AneXineohp .....you sound really disconnected from reality. I'm trans non binary and gay, but you sound extremely chronically online
@@AneXineohp You sound extremely chronically online.
As much as I wish the world wasn't still incredibly heteronormative, young boys absolutely do still get bullied by their peers for engaging in "feminine" sports. Denying it won't make it different. So, if given a choice, a lot of straight guys don't feel strongly about participating in these sports due to peer pressure from their friends. Gay boys are usually the ones who defy the odds and do what they enjoy regardless of what their peers think, so they end up being predominantly the ones who participate in these sports in first world countries.
I come from an eastern european country with a culture extremely similar to Russia. I don't know where you come from, but in countries like mine, potential for salary and government earnings make certain hobbies and sports much more desirable, it removes any stigma associated with it. That's because we're all fucking poor. If fashion design had the potential for government funding, all parents would be signing their kids up for it, regardless of whether they're girls or boys. That's because parents will use any opportunity to have their kids make money. That can lead to a country like mine having a higher percentage of straight guys in perceived "feminine" sports than you would have in a country where young kids aren't expected to think about earning an income. In countries where kids get to choose what they want to do and aren't forced into sports with government funding potential, you won't see a lot of young boys choosing a sport that will get them ostracized or made fun of. But in places like eastern europe, the kids don't get to choose. The parents make that decision if the government will fund it.
As someone who is trans and gay, you sound absolutely insufferable to be around. Just an all around horrible person, with no perception or knowledge of anything outside of your tiny bubble of privilege. Absolutely fucking get over yourself, get off twitter and read a book about cultures that aren't your own. I don't fucking want people like you defending or representing the LGBTQ community, you make things worse for all of us.
Oh and just a small correction: Gordeeva and Grinkov weren't ice dancers, they were 2 time pairs Olympic gold medalists.
I remember watching the pair at the Olympics in Calgary. Mesmerising. So sad.
Yes, and pairs does have jumping!
I was jumping into the comments to see if anyone else was going to correct them. 😊
So Ice dancers that just happen to win a good medal? So Ice dancer then?
@@Vizible21 No, what she meant was that they weren’t ice dancers, but Olympic gold medal figure skaters. I think they call them figure skating pairs? Which means the did jumps in their routines.
Crazy how they had all this going on and just only teenagers..
Many forget… Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy and a warning to those whose emotions dictate life
Ironic considering they became famous because of their r&j dance 😢
People need to understand this sport is a job. It’s like acting or dancing. Assuming someone is in a romantic relationship and pushing them is what draws them apart. It makes things awkward.
I don’t think it necessarily pushes them that way, but yes, I agree that the best teams can compartmentalize their skating persona and relationship and their private relationship. Could they fall in love with each other ? Sure they have their hands on each other all day long, but hopefully they don’t give in to those urges ; at least not for several years when maturity in handling a break up in private life will not actually cause the break up in their partnership.
Obnoxious people on the internet (TikTok) just will get obsessed with things/people and will create an image about them and assume they know everything.
I feel bad for the skaters.
Reality and people's real lives are not a romance book/fanfic. Stop romanticizing relationships. There isn't a perfect one and most of the time social media doesn't depict real life.
Very true!
Great story! However:
1. Gordeeva and Grinkov were pair skaters, not ice dancers. They did have chemistry in their skating though.
2. Valeriy Angelopol is a nephew of Oleg Ovsyannikov, Anjelika Krylova's ice dance partner in sport, so it wasn't hard for Valery to find his way into her group for the reasons very much known. It is still unclear why she sided with Vasilisa over her family member, rumours are they are incompatible in their views towards training methods.
3. Evgeniy Pluschenko is known for picking up skaters who left other camps, regardless of the reasons they left. So it's no surprise he called Valeriy.
Plushenko either picks up all the unwanted strays or steals the top skaters.
Academy of Pluschenko is a private school and rather expensive, while Angelica Krylova is a coach in a federal school.
In fact, it means, that Valeri trains for free in Pluschenko's school only until he wins competitions and stays in TOP-6 at Russian Nationals. He won't be in TOP-6 with his new partner not this year, not next year. It is expected, that he will compete with juniors this season, because it is the only way for him to qualify for the national team and get money from Federation (the best junior pair usually gets into the national team). So, Valeriy will be ok this year, but next year... With his new partner he has got no chances for adult TOP-6. And I don't think Pluschenko will train him for free.
Плющенко молодец, протянул руку помощи!
Нельзя, так грубо губить жизнь прекрасного фигуриста и хорошего, честного человека!
Это подло и некрасиво...
@@Arimbi-fol с загублением своей карьеры Валера неплохо справился и сам, потому что все-таки основная его проблема - это отсутствие подходящей партнёрши и потеря места в очереди. Их с Василисой место уже заняли Хавронина и Нарижный, а за следующий сезон в очереди закрепятся Горелкины, Рыбакова/Махноносов, Щербакова/Гончаров, Кагановская/Некрасов и Пасечник/Чиризано. Куда он потом втиснется с Сашей Шинкаренко, ну я не знаю. Допустим, с Сашей поработают над скольжением и техникой, но такое есть у нас, Хавронина, Рыбакова и Щербакова всё равно катят лучше. Хорошей партнёрши для Валеры, увы, нет. Спасти Валеру могла бы Анна Щербакова, она миниатюрная, красивая, яркая. Но у неё с Егором вроде неплохо идет
Y QUÉ PASA SI VALERA EMIGRA A OTRO PAÍS CON OTRA BANDERA POR EJEMPLO ESTADOS UNIDOS CANADÁ O AUSTRALIA YO PREGUNTO ?? YA NO TENDRÍA QUE PERDER TANTO TIEMPO COMO EN RUSIA Y TENDRÍA MÁS OPORTUNIDADES DE LLEGAR AL SUEÑO DE SU VIDA RUSIA NO TENDRÍA NINGÚN PROBLEMA Y VALERA TENDRÍA EL PAÍS DE SUS SUEÑOS DONDE PODRÍA LLEGAR A DONDE ÉL SOÑÓ
i know this is skating, but as a kpop fan, i can say this happens in the kpop industry too. fans have ruined so many friendships because they are deluded. if a male idol even breathes near a female artist, people will go crazy and ship them. its so sad. these artists cant even interact with each other anymore.
Yes this! It can even result in female idols getting hate trains because of it
we don't care
Whoever Vasilisa skates with, I can't take my eyes off her. She is amazing. So talented, hard-working and beautiful. Maxim is very lucky to have her as his partner
Daaaamn, you're a very captivating storyteller
Its because she really like fs
Agreed 🙌
Great video, I'd love some more storytelling type videos for skaters still competing internationally. I think Piper/Paul would be a great one after Piper's recovery from cancer, or the history making Deanna/Maxime because of how many challenges they've both overcome.
oh I’d love a video about Piper and Paul, I find them so compelling!
Throw in some Team Lala and we're golden. Canada's got some great talent on its roster now.
VALERA SERÍA EL IDEAL PATINADOR PARA CANADÁ RUSIA TIENE MUCHOS PATINADORES Y VALERA NO TIENE FUTURO ASÍ QUE VALERA TIENE QUE MIRAR A OTRO PAÍS CON OTRA BANDERA
Krylova took Valeriy to her team because he is a nephew of her skating partner Oleg Ovsyannikov, with whom she won Olympic silver medal, so its obvious why she agreed to became his coach actually. Also Maxim didnt left Arina to skate with Vasilisa, they already broken up in 2021, he was skating for a year with his new partner Liza, and Arina didnt skate at all for 2 years, before agreeing to try to skate with Valeriy
Valery era un giovane molto promettente e poi abbiamo visto quanto sia servita quella parentela ,a nulla la crilova l ha fatto cacciare dalla federazione un errore grave x nascondere forse i suoi di errori
@@annamaggi4867во-первых, Крылова выгнала его только из своей группы, на что имеет полное право, после его поступка. Никакого влияния на федерацию, чтобы портить ему жизнь, она не оказывала. Во-вторых, тут очевидно, что проблема в Валере, ведь даже его дядя Овсянников в интервью не стал его защищать, а наоборот, сказал, что у Валеры очень тяжелый характер и с ним никто не может справиться
@@fxcoin4529в том интервью он также сказал, что Василиса тоже далеко не подарок в плане характера.
@@tatyanamorgoeva8806да, сказал. Но суть в том, что если бы Валера был жертвой обстоятельств и злой Крыловой, разве его родной дядя не защитил бы его в интервью и не сказал бы, что Валера ни в чем не виноват? А раз он этого не сделал, то можно сделать определенные выводы
@@annamaggi4867had he handled the break up with grace… ie said we felt it is better for our future to end this partnership due to our personalities becoming incomparable, or we grew apart, would have been ok. To state that Vasilisa was hard to train, and treated him poorly, and bad work ethic was the nail on his coffin. It was seen as his being vindictive and trying to ward off future partners… that is what made him unmarketable to other coaches. I’m sure he expected a partner to land on his lap quickly. Arina was the best choice and he should have made it work. Hopefully, Sasha will work out.
The narrating and the commentary here is superb. I was so entertainedddd
I hate that everyone is mad at him bc we don't know what *actually* happened and they were just kids with the whole world forcing this onto them. And the fact she confessed and he was hesitant makes me raise an eyebrow at her too, but again, we don't really know anything. I hope one day once they both mature more they can make up a least a bit.
He "was hesitant", because he was already taken. And he left his girlfriend for Vasilisa.
Nekrasov did not leave Arina for Vasilisa, Arina left him in 2022, he was skating with Pasechnik for a year because it was his option at the time. They both broke up mutually when Kaganovskaya and Cirizhano became available.
Он бросил Пасечник.
@@ИринаХакимова-ъ8ъ pfft he didn't, their coach already said that liza got tired training with him maybe because of his speed and skills that she can't seem to go at his level liza already said it in the past season, how there's still a lot of work for her because maxim is a strong ice dancer and if there were negative feelings in their break up, vasilisa, liza, and maxim wouldn't be interacting on Instagram liking each other posts. vasilisa also said that it's not in her principle and dislikes the most that couples break up just for the sake of getting partnered with "someone better" which is what being thrown at maxim. it was a healthy and mutual break up stop spreading false information lol
@@user-jx8cc9hr5k Maxim is a very mediocre dancer, amorphous. Next to Valery, Maxim completely sucks.
@@ИринаХакимова-ъ8ъ Ирина,, Я вижу, что в фигурном катании вы не эксперт, так почему вы так болеете за Валерия? Нельзя же так отрываться от реальности, у людей глаза есть.Некрасов во всех аспектах профессионально лучше Ангелопола. Если в артистической части , возможно, Ангелопол имел превосходство, то теперь , в паре с Кагановской, Некрасов ему по крайней мере не уступает. Про технику и говорить смысла нет.
@@Letyaga1 это Вы видимо не разбираетесь, если считаете аморфного Максима, лучше харизматичного и техничного Валерия. Достоинства Максима - рост и покладистый характер. Что скажут- то и делает. Нет в его катании ни пластики, ни эмоций, как робот запрограммированный на определенный набор движений. У Валерия непростой характер,но он фигурист от Бога в его катании есть все- техника, пластичность, эмоции.
I'm sure that if it weren't for first the pandemic and then the ban on Russians from competing, this couple would still be together now. They had too few competitions and inspiring victories and too much free time.
But this is like saying "if only this couple didn't have a life, other friends, hobbies, or a single distraction aside from one another, they'd still be together." It sounds like they had a pretty toxic relationship and just weren't a good match. It's very telling that they never got back together after their initial breakup, most teenagers are very on and off, but they simply just made the professional partnership work for as long as they could. It sounds like they fought a lot before the relationship, during the relationship, and after the relationship.
so true! If they felt what international success is (and no one doubts they would have one, right?), they would have never separated. Because they've worked so hard for years and it was absolutely foolish to not have the pay off. I'm still heartbroken.
VALERA TIRO LA TOALLA CUANDO ÉL VIO QUÉ VASILISA ESTABA SÚPER ENAMORADA DE MAXIM ADEMÁS TUVO BASTANTE TIEMPO PARA VERLOS A LOS DOS YA QUE VASILISA Y MAXIM SE CONOCIERON BASTANTES MESES ANTES DE TERMINAR LA TEMPORADA EN UNOS DE LOS VIAJES Y VALERA VIO DESDE EL PRINCIPIO QUE VASILISSA SE QUEDÓ SÚPER ENAMORADA DE MAXIM Y QUE ELLA NO QUERÍA ABSOLUTAMENTE NADA CON VALERA POR ESO PASÓ LO QUE TENÍA QUE PASAR ELLA SE ENAMORÓ TOTAL DE MAXIM Y SOLO QUERÍA HACERLE DAÑO A VALERA PARA TERMINAR LO MÁS PRONTO POSIBLE Y ACABAR CON ÉL QUE NO COMPITIERA Y NO SE VIERAN NUNCA Y ASÍ NO MOLESTABA EN LA VIDA AMOROSA QUE TENÍA VASILISA Y MAXIM LUEGO TAMBIÉN SE JUNTÓ LA ENTRENADORA Y YA ERAN TRES QUE ESTABAN EN CONTRA DE VALERA Y LO ÚNICO QUE QUERÍAN ERA DESTRUIRLO FUERA DE LA FORMA QUE FUERA VALERA CAYÓ EN DEPRESIONES Y POCO A POCO SALIÓ ADELANTE Y POR ESO NUNCA MÁS SE HABLARON ESTA ES LA REALIDAD AUNQUE MUCHAS PERSONAS MALVADAS CUENTAN OTRA HISTORIA SOBRE ESTE PROBLEMA VASILISA NUNCA CONTÓ NADAAA AUNQUE ELLA ES LA PROMOTORA DE TODO ESTO
Валера выбрал себе в пару Василису и они тренировались 5 лет и он не хотел с ней расставаться...
Но девочка повзрослела и ей понравился Макс, она начала уделять ему внимание, сердцу не прикажешь...
Своим поведением доводила влюблённого Валерия до ревности, дипрессии, тем более раньше у них были отношения, предложила Василиса.
Надеюсь, что было дальше всем понятно и не надо обвинять Валеру и его маму в распаде пары...
Все стали Валеру обливать грязью, что как он мог, так поступить с бедной девочкой...
Это она его поменяла на другого, это она выставила один лист ОБОЮДНОГО контракта в интернет...
Их содержание оплачивала Федерация.
И все кинулись на Валерия - сколько гадостей ему пришлось перенести, - врагу не пожелаешь...
Да тренер выгнала его, но на лёд его никуда не пускали...
Началась травля...
Хотя не так давно все восхищались его талантом и говорили, что у него большое будущее...
Возможно поэтому и уничтожили?!?
I love this storytelling kind of videos!!! Figure skating has so many layers and people with lives that are so interesting, I hope u can make more
This was so well written and so well told. Obsessed with your content, but damn, this one is next level amazing
I love your videos and this was another highlight. Thank you for making the world of ice-skating so much more interesting and feasible
Vasilisa looks amazing with maxim. Can’t wait to see them compete
i wish them all the best I hope Vasilisa and Valeriy the best with their new partners ( I don't want to see any hate comments about him on my comment)
yes! honestly people are reading too much into it, this is a natural thing to happen in any career path or anything of the sort, they both had they faults but like… they’re teenagers let’s also not expect that much yk? + they’re both super talented, let’s focus on that, cheer on their careers and if nostalgia hits, go back to old performances
@@luisabolado I get he shouldn’t have reacted that way but he didn’t deserve the hate and there’s this instagram that always posts about him and Sasha (his skating partner ) making fun of them more valeriy and it piss me off that I blocked them like valeriy and vasilisa don’t skate together leave him alone he literally talked about the effects of the break up in interview
@@khadijah55555 omg yeah that is totally not ok! actually, my comment was to reaffirm yours, because nobody deserves hate in a situation that just doesn’t merit it
@@luisabolado yeah and I understood you’re comment
I know some people say “ he kissed her after everything, so why not ship them “ he kissed her as saying “ we did it! “ they had friendship love. I miss them skating together but all the pressure of skating and having to keep the chemistry alive is stressful. Having to skate as exes everyday had to be so hard. Having to see the person yyou used to love but having to still hold a relationship and have to have chemistry is hard. It’s almost been a year since the break and I still miss them❤
Thank you for this amazing video! Amazing work!
I'm really hoping that this situation has taught many of the young people on tik tok, that just because a relationship looks picture-perfect and amazing on social media doesnt mean there aren't issues behind the scenes.
Wow. Your essay was so good. I was capativated by your story telling! Well done and thank you 🎉
man i will continue to watch both of them tbh but i rlly like the way vasilisa has handled it all and i follow her socials a lot Valeriy doesn’t post as much but i follow him too i wish them both the best in their future careers although i think from what ive seen them skating tg looks the most magical even compared to their current partners
What an awesome video!!
I hope you keep us posted on the subject because this is almost my only source of information 😂
It’s a big fall for him, from Vasilisa and potential 😢Olympics glory to Ice Shows with Tat’s.
PENSO CHE ALLE OLIMPIADI NN CI ANDRÀ NESSUNO
@paolala Your narration was as passionate, whimsical and sharp as the skaters!
I might have to start watching ice dancing!
You all got bamboozled by good marketing... and by marketing, i mean fan's own marketing. Nothing like getting hooked on toxic energy.
В чем их токсичность? Они же притягивают. Так на своего партнёра может смотреть только юность,поэтому столько интереса. Максим на нее так уже не посмотрит.Не сможет даже сыграть
I believe he came up with that contract just so he could leave the partnership. It must’ve been so bad for him that he resorted to a ridiculous contract in order to break up with his partner.
TODO EL MUNDO SABE QUE LO DEL CONTRATO FUE UNA MALAA JUGADA DE VASILISA Y QUE SOLO ENSEÑO UNA HOJA PARA LASTIMAR TODO LO POSIBLE A VALERA Y ESO LO SABEE TODO EL MUNDOOOO COMO SE PUEDE SER TAN MALAS PERSONAS Y INVENTARSE COSAS TAN MALAS PARA HACER DAÑO A OTRA PERSONA ESA CHICA LO TIENE QUE PAGAR
ИХ 17:01 @@manuelmoya8381
ИХ СОДЕРЖАНИЕ ОПЛАЧИВАЛА ФЕДЕРАЦИЯ.
ВАЛЕРА ЧЕСТНЫЙ, ИСКРЕННИЙ И ПОРЯДОЧНЫЙ ЧЕЛОВЕК И ЕМУ НЕ НУЖНЫ БЫЛИ ПОКУПКИ ЗА СЧЁТ ВАСИЛИСЫ...
Василиса начала уделять внимание Максу и у неё появилось желание встать в пару с Максом...
Она своим поведением доводила Валеру до ревности, депрессии и он не находил выхода из сложившейся ситуации...
Надеюсь, больше ничего объяснять не надо...
Дальше всё шло по плану..
The most heartbreaking thing was there were possibly Olympic hopefuls or on the national team trials were just a few weeks away from their separation. They had the routine and costumes already completed too :(
I know nothing about ice skating but I watched this video till the end. This video should be taught as a storytelling & video editing lesson in TH-cam courses.
Maxim didn’t leave Arina Ushakova to skate with Vasilisa, they had stopped skating together long before. He left Liza Pasechnik, his new partner. Pasechnik is now skating with Dario Chirizano, who was the main rival for Kaganovskaya/Angelopol a few years ago when Chirizano was skating with Irina Khavronina (they won gold at Youth Olympics in 2020). But Khavronina left him for skating with her boyfriend David Narizhny who also has left two partners in two years. Russian ice dance is not for beginners 😂
You're a great storyteller :)
What an impressive narration at the end. Very well done 😊
So your telling me he saw her on tv wanted to skate with her skated with her grew closer together fell in love broke up but still pretended to be together while fighting bts for the fans then scandalously splitting as skating partners
Then their new skating partners used to skate together I need a book a book where they end up together at the end please!!!!!!
Да,не притворялся он.Они росли вместе.Она даже зарегистрирована в квартире семьи Валеры.Она для него целая жизнь в таком возрасте.Они были вместе 24*7.Это не игра.И отпустить нельзя и остаться невозможно.Он проявил бескомпромиссность и навредил себе.Когда вам 19 лет,то что значит 5 лет из них-целая жизнь.Здесь вина тренера.
@@Seta-z7n привет, видимо, моя полоса дуолинго бесполезна, поэтому я использую Google Translate, так что простите меня, если это неправильно, но я просто хочу сказать, что мне бы хотелось знать причину, по которой тренер сделал это, как будто у меня есть парень, который чувствует, что они найдут друг друга в конец, будь то партнерство или что-то большее, но так неприятно думать, что человек, которому ты доверял, любил и с которым вырос, предаст тебя на таком глубоком уровне
И в добавок желание Василисы сменить партнёра.
Ive seen people say right person wrong timing
If he was the right person there wouldnt be a wrong timing…
Your best video yet! Superb storytelling.
I love the way how your narrate their story. beautiful and poignant at the same time.
I was waiting for you to talk about them 😭
I'm honestly routing for both of them, I've seen what vasilisa and maxim can do, I'm excited to see what valeriy and Sasha are going to come out with ❤
They’re the reason I began watching figure skating, and honestly the drama in this sport seems endless (at least in Russia)
This is why Virtue Moir are untouchable.. they were able to resist all the social/pr pressure on them and be on the top for 20 years together.. iron ice dance legendary couple, no one will surpass them I think for a very long time
It doesn't matter who they dance with vasilisa and valeriy are the best at what they do god bless ❤ you both ❤❤❤❤
I had been watching them periodically every season. I can't say that I didn't see this coming, because I did. Kids who get together so young rarely stay with each other. It is a natural process. The shipping of fans is expected, so I don't think this exaggerated the situation...it just prolonged the break up. I hope that she an Maxim stay professional even with the difficulty of staying as such due to the nature of your have to act in love, eventually you may fall in love for real. Hopefully, this won't happen to them because I see them being so dynamic together.
Wishing both couples the best and lots of success. I hope people stop being hateful to Val and to Max who has gotten some awful hate since his pairing with Vas occurred
This was amazing! A well-structured and well-paced video essay, this’ll be a great introduction to the situation for those who came in on the backend and are new to Russian figure skating drama. Glad to see you’re back & doing the kind of content that makes you fulfilled! 💖
YO CREO QUE VALERA LO VOLVERÁ HACER Y ME REFIERO HACER QUE MILLONES DE PERSONAS VOLVEMOS HACER FELICES VIENDO UNA PAREJA DE ENSUEÑOS Y ES QUE VALERA ES ÚNICO UN CHICO COMPLETO COMO A CUALQUIER MUJER LE GUSTARÍA TENER ❤❤
really good video essay, i love the way you story tell
paola , girl imma need a alyona kostornaia timeline
YESSS DUDE
Sergei Grinkov and Ekaterina Gordeeva pure perfection!
I discovered your videos yesterday and have binged them. I’m not even that into figure skating but I love your voice. Your deep dive videos are the best. You do for FS what Femloraps does for Football. Keep it up!
So it was the grownups who messed it all up.
Взрослые могли, при желании, не допустить развала пары...
Но каким-то взрослым захотелось сделать звёздную пару КН и они сделали, посчитали, что у новой пары больше возможностей для побед.🏆
This is so messy I LIVE. I know nothing about figure skating except from your channel and I’m locked in now.
Fabulous fascinating video Paola La, great choice of words especially in the closing words, well done!
They were my favorite couple. Beautiful chemistry
You are a great storyteller! This was so interesting 😃
I hope Hallmark doesn’t make a movie about them. A much bigger production that releases movies in theaters would be so much better:
Cringe either way
I love how falling in love with their partner felt just as magical as just being an audience watching them glide through the ice
No hate, simply admiration for their skills. Kudos
Lesson from V&V true story :
Social media is unreal
Good move to go separate ways... because their friendship/relationship sounded toxic
I love them more than anything and my heart was sooo broken
You're a really talented storyteller, kudos!
They work hours and weeks or months, all that feeling are bound to come up.❤❤❤
This is social media at its worst as people from different backgrounds are obsessed with getting as much attention as possible to increase their popularity.
For people like influencers & couples channels it’s all about making as much money as possible by selling merchandise & endorsements. It’s all very calculating yet people watching them are conned into believing it’s real.
With idols, actors, celebrities, it’s about increasing their popularity but it’s a two way street as the problem is then that fans think they own these people. Especially in the case of idols where their fanbase makes or breaks them, & with actors/actresses that play couples in movies or on TV shows fans can’t separate their fictional characters from real life.
Even down to ice dancers, they want the attention but then the fans become obsessed putting to much pressure on such a young couple all because again they can’t seperate them playing characters on the ice from their real life.
Social media is disturbing & toxic on so many levels.
How have we as a society still not realized that chemistry does not equal romance?? 😑 they were lovely ice dancers together. Sad that it has ended but wishing them well!
Can you do more of these story telling type videos maybe tessa and Scot would do well but also current skaters
I audibly gasped when you said they actually actually ACTUALLY dated
Это предложение было от Василисы.
They are both very talented. I wish them personal growth and success in the future. As some here already mentioned, they are still very young and they are just humans. Who knows what happened in detail and I don’t blame them that they once fell in love. They are young and it’s surely not easy to not fall in love when you are working so close together with all those emotions,etc.
Loved to see them together 🤩✨
Ur script was amazing so poetic it felt like i was listening to an audio book about their romance
Mon Dieu quelle histoire !! Très difficile . Tout mon soutien à Valeriy dans cette épreuve qui fut tellement difficile sur ses épaule de jeune homme qui commence sa vie et sa carrière. Dieu de protège et t’ouvre toutes les portes du succès. 🙏🙏🙏❤️
I can't imagine working long hours with someone of the opposite sex and not becoming super close. Taking the step to put the relationship up a level is normal. IMO.
Thanks for this video ❤❤❤
"Enchantment to entanglement "
You are so good!
Never confess to a guy first. Let him confess - if he really like you, he would make it happen. Poor girl.
ESTÁS MUY EQUIVOCADA YA QUE EN ESTE CASO QUIÉN SE FUE Y DIO LA ESPALDA SIN PENSARLO DE UN SEGUNDO A OTRO FUE VASILISSA ASÍ QUE NADA DE CONFESIONES ADEMÁS DICHO POR ELLA MISMA Y DE QUÉ ESTÁ SÚPER ENAMORADA DE MAXIM ASÍN QUE NO CULPES A VALERA QUE NO TIENE NADA QUE VER CON ESTO AL CONTRARIO VALERA FUE ABANDONADO HUMILLADO Y MALTRATADO POR ESTA GENTE😢😢
Sounds like people loved their love story like my generation loved the connection of gordeeva and grinkov. There just will never be a tragic love story like theirs imo.
Touché.
Thanks I needed to be clear on what happened
Same
@user-gb3bt4hc4f u just replied to ur own comment? 💀💀
the tensionnnn😭 hope they be successful in their own path🥺💕
People really didn't learn from Virtuemoir
What happened to virtuemoir??
@@susanemars8656 just the endless shipping. it probably made them really uncomfortable and even after tessa is now married and pregnant, there are people still shipping her with scott.
@@Hi-lu5vf that is just plain disrespectful tbh and I get why Scott kept his relationship secret until they retire because can you imagine the sheer hate his partner (and Tessa's too) would've gotten from the fans. I mean we saw how (although not pair or ice dance) Hanyu's marriage fell apart due to sheer pressure either from press or stans
@@Hi-lu5vf okay, thanks I got the idea now❣️
@@AyaaAcademia Hanyu was married??? 😮😮😮
She is better now with Maxim they are fire
No
@@savanahbabyyyy Shi is better with a man that give up a full year of national team salary just to skate with her , than with a child who ask her to pay for everything
Not to mention that Maxim is 💯% better in technique than Valera and his hieght is more sutible with Vas how already is taller than val
Who*
Fake fire but maybe that’s a good thing. They can stay professional and not breakup.
@@Elong.when a said fire what i want to said is that they are amazing and transmit a lot of chemistry for a Couple Tha has been together less than a year a show a Lot tecnical potencial, nothing to do if their in a relationschip or just friends
I’m always living under a rock so I didn’t know about this. Anyway, from a total external prospective: what a shame, they were the perfect skating couple in terms of body proportions and aesthetic, very rare to find someone who suits you this well, and also they are both extremely good looking and had great chemistry on ice (which comes from similar interpretation and expressiveness though gestures, in short they speak the same body language) AND they skate at the same level, another not so given similarity. So all in all a tragic loss for the sport, I would say this proves that teenagers shouldn’t mingle something so important with hormones but 1. We already knew 2. Nothing we can do about it… except for DO NOT SPAM real people, especially teenagers, with your fantasies, they can definitely hurt.
I’ve never heard of these skaters but this is Netflix worthy lol
Didn’t realise how much I was dying for this information😭
I love hearing about Gordeeva and Grinkov. It brings me such joy
Sergei Grinkov just rolled in his grave
Great story & wonderful story teller! 🎉
Some people in certain parts of the world just don't know how to just remain professional. In my country we say don't shit where you work.
Well, do shit where you work if you are paid by hour but dating is definitely a no no 😂
I’m not tapped in to this side of skating and this video almost felt like a teen dramadey at first!
Please do more vids on the russian junior girls (like the kostyleva/bazylyuk drama)! Or 3A +Kamila! Love you 💞
LA NOVELA!!!!!
XDDDDD
Great video. What a story. Not what I would usually watch, but I found it fascinating
Valery said that hi dint't leave the house for a month after they anaounce their break up on Augusto 31 bud he went to the skating text event on September 17
Maxim dint't leave Arina for Vasilisa, instead was Arina who left him a year before and hi have to skate with a new girl name Elisabetha in 2023
If this would be a rumours album. The whole shabang would get back together and deliver gold in 2 years.
You ATE UP that last line