Only one single manufacturer takes gaming seriously and thats fractal. Its high time to move away from corny teen rgb to classy designs, exquisite materials and mono or duo chromatic muted colors and matte textures. Your PC should completement and integrate with your home interior design style. And that style should be consistent and high end.
Way better even. Herman Miller chairs are top of the line and most important Herman Miller chair are actual office chairs which are way more important for correct support and comfort which gaming chairs simply lack. While this looks fancy and everything it's nothing more than that. A fancy gaming chair which are notoriously known for not being great regarding correct posture and comfort
I always told myself if I had the money to start a business I'd go into the gaming sector but make products with minimalist/elegant modern aesthetics. None of my friends that play video games like the typical gamer aesthetics. I have my own apartment and my office/gaming desk is in the living room. I have nice and sleek furniture, so there's no way I'm gonna have some RGB, rugged, chaotic or sharp looking monitors, desktop, chair or equipment. So I appreciate that companies are slowly starting to see that.
Looks stunning, seems to be sort of an in-between between the features I like in the Herman Miller Aeron and the Steelcase Leap. I just hope a place like maybe Micro Center ends up with some to actually try out in person.
@@EnergeticTK You can explore Refine Cleaning Instructions & Maintenance information on our support page: support.fractal-design.com/support/solutions/articles/4000209049
How long until we can start automating the adjustment features on gaming chairs? I would love something similar to the Mercedes-Benz feature where you just move the seat back, and it automatically adjusts. You push the seat up, and it moves up. It would be great to have options on the side to easily adjust your chair
Make them with an ability to lock the wheel movement and lock the seat base from rotating or tilting from a given position, so the chair can be still when I sit on it, and I'll get one. It's important for sim racing.
that lumbar adjust had my face visibly going "oh shit". well dam. now i wish i hadnt gotten my current chair. its decent. a haworth soji, but i think i wouldve preferred this.
Довольно прикольно. Всегда считал ваши товары изысканными, такого нигде нет. Обожаю ваши корпуса, хотелось бы приобрести meshify 2 Compact, но, к сожалению в Россию ваша продукция не завозится из-за санкций, а перекупы просят тройную цену.
The only problem I see is trying to rest your head while wearing big audiophile headphones. I think the head cushion might be adequate enough to make it bearable.
I would like an ultra-lite barebones version with the same design and same option of materials but with no adjustments. That is priced very competitively with low end chairs.
I believe that people who have sufficient money to spend for their relaxation will find this product very useful. But I do believe there shall be a beta version of this with a slightly cheaper cost as 80% of consumers would rather buy an entire technological setup than spend half their budget on the chair. Very innovative product indeed though.
Might be a good and cheaper alternative to the Haworth Fern/Herman Miller Aeron... Forward tilt would have been an incredible feature though. How long is the warranty for europe?
Hi, thank you for your interest in Refine and for your question. We offer a five-year warranty on the chair's construction and a three-year warranty on soft parts such as the upholstery, arm caps, and headrest.
The ergonomic features of the chair are all well and good, but when I see the slope at the back of the seat and the seat is only 47cm deep... that's pretty small, and it creates the famous butt gap that you fall into. It just makes the seat feel even smaller than it is (for for average height person like me at 5'10). it's just not comfortable if there's no continuous contact between the seat and the backrest, but rather a gap. Sometimes ergonomic features like this that are supposed to help, ruin a chair. That's my experience and I tried all of the high priced ones from Steelcase, Herman Miller, haworth etc. many of them have the same thing and it sucks to sit in them (that and when the seat pan is too tiny in width and depth, make them bigger and stop making this gap in the back, oh and also make the armrest lockable for all movements. no one wants them to slide back or forth every few seconds)
Having the armrest stay in line with the desk surface, even when I recline, is crucial for me, and it’s one of the features I like about the Steelcase Leap. I don’t see that feature here. Otherwise, this chair looks promising.
Seems like a good chair. Priced farily in relation to what secretlab, nioble and other companies charge for their subpar chairs. Would consider if I didn't already have a good chair.
@@Alexandra-Rex There will be availability in other regions coming this month. For pricing in your region, we recommend checking with your nearest retailer.
Hi, thank you for your question. You can easily attach or detach Refine's armrests using the three screws on each side. It features 4D armrests designed for optimal gaming comfort, but if you prefer it without armrests, you can check our assembly video to see the armrest installation process: th-cam.com/video/4KEAUJ3Qnew/w-d-xo.html
1 Question: Is this made by Autonomous because hit REALLY looks like it is. If not, who's the manufacturer, and how many of their facilities will be over manufacturing? The most SICKENING thing I've had in life was finding out that Seecretlab doesn't manufacture their own chairs, and instead contracts them out to other manufacturing facilities whos quality control is subpar at best.
Hi, thank you for your interest in Refine. It is now available in Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany, the Czech Republic, Poland, and the Netherlands within the European region. You can find your nearest retailer through our website.
It’s $550. $900 for the Alcantara version. Saved you a search.
550 isn't crazy actually
@@freddybell8328 not bad at all for a chair that looks this high end!
£99 maximum 😢
That's a bargain.
Thank you sir 🫡
Only one single manufacturer takes gaming seriously and thats fractal. Its high time to move away from corny teen rgb to classy designs, exquisite materials and mono or duo chromatic muted colors and matte textures. Your PC should completement and integrate with your home interior design style. And that style should be consistent and high end.
Thank you, we're happy to hear that you like our designs.
Yes what they do is great but no need to bash others. I don't like RGB crap either but let others have their fun
I love my jade terra case for this exact reason
@@MrFolfy💯
@@MrFolfyfacts
If I didn't already have a Herman Miller, id be interested.
same
same
Herman Miller still better?!
Way better even.
Herman Miller chairs are top of the line and most important Herman Miller chair are actual office chairs which are way more important for correct support and comfort which gaming chairs simply lack.
While this looks fancy and everything it's nothing more than that. A fancy gaming chair which are notoriously known for not being great regarding correct posture and comfort
@@ITheIncredibleFishI idk why people say this, office chairs aren't comfortable at all. they're way too small and flimsy
OMG, I was JUST thinking about getting a new chair. Looks amazing! Can't wait for it to arrive in Europe!
that's a gaming chair, that I would actually consider buying
Gaming?? Cringe
I cannot wait for the infinite comfort of this chair ✨
I always told myself if I had the money to start a business I'd go into the gaming sector but make products with minimalist/elegant modern aesthetics. None of my friends that play video games like the typical gamer aesthetics. I have my own apartment and my office/gaming desk is in the living room. I have nice and sleek furniture, so there's no way I'm gonna have some RGB, rugged, chaotic or sharp looking monitors, desktop, chair or equipment. So I appreciate that companies are slowly starting to see that.
Its nicely priced I payed 700 for my OfficeMaster 9 years ago and its still in great condition. Buy once cry once
Fractal, a footrest attachment would be game changer. Can't wait to buy this.
100%
Just get a chinese chair or a herman miller
Can't wait for the EU release later this month :O
This chair is amazing
when will be the eu release?
This chair with footrest included it would be a must!
Looking great, all the features i care about are there. I will remember it when my current one gives out
slams credit card on the table
Even the table would reject mine.
Declined
I see you and I raise you!
looks like a gaming chair that is actually comfortable to use and not just a fancy one
That tilt looks nice I must say
Looks stunning, seems to be sort of an in-between between the features I like in the Herman Miller Aeron and the Steelcase Leap. I just hope a place like maybe Micro Center ends up with some to actually try out in person.
It looks more like the Haworth Zody
This is an incredible design for Ergonomic, Hope you guys bring this chair to Bangladesh. Surely I will buy one
This video is such a pleasure to watch 😵💫
Will u guys make an mATX North?
There are dozens of us
Can’t wait for this to hit the market!
It's out now I believe
@@Dinckle must resist 👀
Hello, thank you for your interest in Refine. It is available now in the US and China, but will be available in other regions this month.
@@FractalOfficial does fractal have a guide on how to clean the fabric/mesh?
@@EnergeticTK You can explore Refine Cleaning Instructions & Maintenance information on our support page: support.fractal-design.com/support/solutions/articles/4000209049
Finally a chair that doesn’t look like some black magic Mountain Dew fever dream
Love the design
I’m. In. Love. I hope it feels as good as it looks
Holy that looks good.
Very nice product design , i think this chair should be sent for RED-DOT DESIGNS AWARDS 😊😊
Hi, thank you. We're glad that you like our Refine.
that looks awesome!
Cannot wait. 🔥
Hi, thank you for your interest in Refine. It is available now in the US and China, and will be available in other regions this month.
How long until we can start automating the adjustment features on gaming chairs? I would love something similar to the Mercedes-Benz feature where you just move the seat back, and it automatically adjusts. You push the seat up, and it moves up. It would be great to have options on the side to easily adjust your chair
Make them with an ability to lock the wheel movement and lock the seat base from rotating or tilting from a given position, so the chair can be still when I sit on it, and I'll get one. It's important for sim racing.
This will be my next office chair
that lumbar adjust had my face visibly going "oh shit". well dam. now i wish i hadnt gotten my current chair. its decent. a haworth soji, but i think i wouldve preferred this.
I think I'im going to be fan of that brand.
I love their simple and slick design.
and now, they are making Desk chair.
I want that Chair
Hi, thank you for your kind words. We are glad that you like our designs.
Ahh the perfect chair to roll up to my North Mini ;)
Hope someday fractal gonna be popular in vietnam
My ErgoChair 2 still holds up great, but when I will need a successor, this would be very high on my list!
Is there a noticeable difference in cushioning and ergonomics between the mesh and fabric variants?
Now that's a nice chair.
Довольно прикольно. Всегда считал ваши товары изысканными, такого нигде нет. Обожаю ваши корпуса, хотелось бы приобрести meshify 2 Compact, но, к сожалению в Россию ваша продукция не завозится из-за санкций, а перекупы просят тройную цену.
AWESOME!!! Come to Brasil please!
The only problem I see is trying to rest your head while wearing big audiophile headphones. I think the head cushion might be adequate enough to make it bearable.
Best product company 2024
Picking mine up tomorrow, it better not suck!
How is it?
@@trashtuber6021 Really good!
yesss mesh option lesgoooo
Will you be selling replacement parts for this chair the next 5-10 years?
I would like an ultra-lite barebones version with the same design and same option of materials but with no adjustments. That is priced very competitively with low end chairs.
I believe that people who have sufficient money to spend for their relaxation will find this product very useful.
But I do believe there shall be a beta version of this with a slightly cheaper cost as 80% of consumers would rather buy an entire technological setup than spend half their budget on the chair.
Very innovative product indeed though.
We need the BTOD review yesterday.
Might be a good and cheaper alternative to the Haworth Fern/Herman Miller Aeron...
Forward tilt would have been an incredible feature though.
How long is the warranty for europe?
Hi, thank you for your interest in Refine and for your question. We offer a five-year warranty on the chair's construction and a three-year warranty on soft parts such as the upholstery, arm caps, and headrest.
This is effing amazing
Captain here. It's a chair.
if this thing is actually comfortable, you have my money
Ohh. I cant wait to see some reviews on this
This is the gaming setup I'd use if I lived in the world of The Giver.
Dear Fractal, please make North Itx and Matx case size. :D
The ergonomic features of the chair are all well and good, but when I see the slope at the back of the seat and the seat is only 47cm deep... that's pretty small, and it creates the famous butt gap that you fall into. It just makes the seat feel even smaller than it is (for for average height person like me at 5'10). it's just not comfortable if there's no continuous contact between the seat and the backrest, but rather a gap. Sometimes ergonomic features like this that are supposed to help, ruin a chair. That's my experience and I tried all of the high priced ones from Steelcase, Herman Miller, haworth etc. many of them have the same thing and it sucks to sit in them (that and when the seat pan is too tiny in width and depth, make them bigger and stop making this gap in the back, oh and also make the armrest lockable for all movements. no one wants them to slide back or forth every few seconds)
Having the armrest stay in line with the desk surface, even when I recline, is crucial for me, and it’s one of the features I like about the Steelcase Leap. I don’t see that feature here. Otherwise, this chair looks promising.
Should be foam feat with mesh back, looks fantastic but not sure about the headrest
Does the website link in the description not work?
Seems like a good chair. Priced farily in relation to what secretlab, nioble and other companies charge for their subpar chairs. Would consider if I didn't already have a good chair.
Cant find any place to purchase this in Norway, do you have any retailers?
when is it coming to canada
Holy shit you guys did it.
is it like sitting on concrete like the secretlab chairs?
I don't think I can afford watching this video
Just about to say goodbye to my ikea chair, it served me well.
Will it be available in the Middle East?
Gaming Comfort !!!
399 dollar would be fair, everything above... better you get a herman miller for that money
Impossible to buy in Canada...
C'mon. It is a chair. Just a chair.
Anyone that knows how much this goes for? Can’t find a price anywhere
how to keep it clean ?
Just got mine but i have to wait for the restock in sweden 31/10
Guys what do you prefer beetween ? SecretLab or Fractal ?
secretlab is literally like sitting on concrete. there is zero padding.
I just wish these seats were a bit bigger. They always seem too form fitting.
i just saw the recommended height for the chairs and i ended up being too short T_T
Dang you're below 5'2 👀
so early that no uk retailers listed on the site have it listed on their sites
Hello, Refine will be available this month in the UK.
@@FractalOfficial What about Norway? Curious about the price here.
@@Alexandra-Rex There will be availability in other regions coming this month. For pricing in your region, we recommend checking with your nearest retailer.
@@FractalOfficial why can you not tell us or put it up on the site? This tells me it is going to be a ridiculous price. industry.
@@TheTechBasement550 for base model, 899 for the fancy fabric
for $550 I think I'll keep my free office chair for now and spend the money on updating my NAS
*Slams remaining kidney on the table*
I'll take 2
Alcantara gets very nasty over time unless you take specific care in how you handle it, I would not want a office chair upholstered with it.
Well sheet, guess i got got - I'm buying
Is there an ETA on Scape or Era 2?
Got that Embody recline action, I see...
Are the armrests removable?
Hi, thank you for your question. You can easily attach or detach Refine's armrests using the three screws on each side. It features 4D armrests designed for optimal gaming comfort, but if you prefer it without armrests, you can check our assembly video to see the armrest installation process: th-cam.com/video/4KEAUJ3Qnew/w-d-xo.html
when will have btf case
1 Question:
Is this made by Autonomous because hit REALLY looks like it is.
If not, who's the manufacturer, and how many of their facilities will be over manufacturing?
The most SICKENING thing I've had in life was finding out that Seecretlab doesn't manufacture their own chairs, and instead contracts them out to other manufacturing facilities whos quality control is subpar at best.
Not at all?
Can anyone tell the price in USD? The product is nowhere to be found lol
I’m not buying a 3D rendered ad
What will the price be?
This could fix all my problems🪑
Do you sell these to India?
$900.00, and here I was thinking It's probably something crazy expensive like 350
I just know this chair is going to be more expensive than my car
It's 500€.
a nice upgrade from my secretlabs titan evo
love the design, unlike the Gamer racing chair design
It has Knee tilt!
Available in Europe?
Hi, thank you for your interest in Refine. It is now available in Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany, the Czech Republic, Poland, and the Netherlands within the European region. You can find your nearest retailer through our website.
My office chair does all this and it was £150 from Amazon 😣
Looks like a Chair from Ikea. Same functions, Same Look, but leds expensiv
Loks like Fractal made their own Aeron