Universities and Australian international collages are a major issue. There has been many visa scams surrounding the quality and legitimacy of these courses. You also have major employers such as our largest employer Woolworths who want cheap IT labour from India, as do a lot of other large IT departments because they get Indian workers who will work harder and longer hours for a much lower rate. Same with hiring migrants over locals in other industries.
@@masada2828 There are plenty of way to get around this without breaking the law. The employer pays the legal amount into the worker's bank account, but, to keep his job, the worker must "buy" the job in cash.
@@masada2828 you can put out an ad for software engineer for min wage , you think Australian's are going to apply? No. so your point is redundant and misleading. Wages haven't kept up in any meaningful way , i earned the same amount now 10 years ago despite everything costing 100% more... you think thats because "all workers must get paid the same rate", thats just wrong and you know it, the difference in that time frame is constant increase in immigration PARTICULARLY from low wage countries/economically challenged ,and so they come here and think wow $24 an hour so goooooddd!!! and then realise why Australians wont take it ,but they have no choice.
I did my degree at MIT (Melbourne) I was forced to do each and every one of the assignments with groups of foreigners who barely spoke English and didn’t do their work. I wanted good grades and ended up doing all the assignments on my own and carried everyone through the course. They purposely chose the worst students to put me in groups with so I would get them through. I brought it up with the heads of the school and I was told that was just the way it was, I had no choice as group work is a prerequisite. I was the only one actually doing the work so, ummmm ok. But I wasn’t allowed to hand in assignments on my own. The students were here to get residency eventually and a good chunk of their parents bought them property to live in whilst they were here. also they only gave scholarships to internationals. I fought so that domestic students could also qualify for them and was I offered a scholarship? No. I finished with a HD in every subject (they lowered the standards so pass grades were easier to get) severe depression and a $50k HELP debt that with my giant rent increase I’m struggling to pay off. Our system is beyond a joke.
Yep, I went to RMIT and they delivered engineering in baby speak and super slowed down for the non English speakers, the Chinese cohort who mostly did nothing and didn't interact with us in group assessments yet still passed, I distinctly remember the 3 or 4 Indian guys demanding to be rearranged out of the arbitrary teams, into just them for a team.. They were all there for the work the student visa opened up so weren't even present most of the time and were still passed even though there's minimum attendance requirements..
For large business owners, immigration represents a source of affordable labor and potential customers for their products and services. For governments, immigrants constitute a source of tax revenue. Ultimately, everything is interconnected, and our jobs may be correlated to the existence of emigrants.
@@rayzsp9623 "a source of affordable labour..." meaning that immigration lowers wages. You think that that is a good thing. Well, it is good for capitalists. They get richer at the expense of the workers. Recent research in UK and in Europe showed that in their nations, the lower paid immigrants from non-western countries actually took more out of the economy in the form of social services, than they put in, in taxes. Immigration is only good for the immigrants themselves and for those already rich. Our per capita GDP has been shrinking for 6 quarters and inequality has increased.
All the international students i know, came to Australia to study and get PR, then citizenship. They never had intentions of returning back to their home country.
1.4 immigrants per new job, 20 per house. Australians are being forced into poverty and homelessness. 290,000 homeless so far. The government has betrayed Australians.
Remember when the Left used to represent the working classes? Now the left hates the working classes. And calls everyone that disagrees with it ‘far right’ or ‘racist’.
@AlexThipthorp what difference does it make what race they are? The point is there isn't enough homes, jobs, roads, hospitals, sewers, electrical grid, schools and so on for all the people....
Oh and another visa industry is big food franchises. On reddit there is a lot of discussion of how in the US and UK the big fast food chains are operated by Indians who are running them down to the ground. In Australia, how many subways, pizza huts / domino’s etc do you encounter that are operate by non- Indians? These fast food chains have given up on their product, obviously help Indians get visa is more profitable!
Another is how backpackers can extend their visa by working on rural areas eg farm work. This has added supply of workers - pushing down the market rate of payment. These workers often save their income for when they are back in Australian cities (or to spend travelling Asia). This means the money doesn’t go back into building the rural communities - eg cafes, shops, homes, restaurants etc… (As it would if they spent the money locally). The combination of lower pay and lack of local spending by pickers makes it less desirable for Australian’s to be pickers.
Australia comes first not its students. I think it’s Australia’s inability to maintain their corrupt that led it here. As immigration is the only reason why low population nations where no one has enough time or patience in their life to even have kids at a decent rate. Otherwise with so many condemning USA and Europe about immigrants they still are making it easy for skilled ones? On the other hand… kids from undeveloped countries find it easy to do the university itself but cannot afford the cost of living increase in australia. Most fail because they couldn’t manage to make enough money to live and leave the country and less due to their lack in studies. So to a guy from undeveloped country it sounds like ok I need to manage my costs which I already do ( but trust me living as a poor in India is 1000 times better than living as a student without a part time in Australia)
@@jagggyjazz8010 I think the children of the people paying the taxes that keep these institutions running and want a better future for their children should come first ... call me crazy 🤪
@@MelaniaRose Yeah! Its obvious they are not from the place but they do learn with time and try restricting immigrants and see what would happen… Low birth rates in developed countries where it was not common to have woman in workplace have less than 2 kids per couple and with immigrants who do have more kids its still the same case and the population is old. It would be in a similar situation like Japan where everyone is in the retirement age and very few working. Do you think that white people govt’s want other races to be in their country…? In most cases its a big no, but they really don’t have a choice with most of their population opting not to do technical studies and do management or laborious jabs like running a pizza shop or delivering one etc., Thats why the foreigner folks learn english cause it’s the only language the locals can speak
@@MelaniaRose IDK how English is the quality. They do communicate clear enough and they don’t need to write poems and literally most foreigners speak good English but not the slang local to the people. Like Indians always will pronounce everything written in general and australians sound like american men drunk and speaking english etc.,
The universities use international students as cash cows, and they are taking houses away from Australian tenants. How dare the universities say limiting their cash cows threatens their financial viability! The univeraities' exploitation of their social licences is destroying the financial viability of Australian tenants and preventing many Australians from finding a place to live!
Yeah, the universities have been using particularly Sydney for their own financial benefit without any consideration about the social impact of importing large numbers of international students. Effects on housing, infrastructure etc.
@@donna25871 Typical Left response- blame the LNP. The universities have been using publicly owned universities as their own private companies for decades, more interested in money than educating Aussie, which is what they were made for. They are to blame, not either side of politics. They don’t care about the social cost, just how they can profit.
International student often outbid citizens for rental housing. There are too many international students that don’t have access to affordable housing either, because there’s too many landlords (academic staff etc) who take advantage of students. Universities should house 100 percent of their international students instead of defending their landlords portfolios.
Universities have long been a hot bed for Cheap workers + cash cow for Universities + source of support for Politicians being lobbied by business that want cheap workers. Allowing students to work is essentially a huge selling point for these students to migrate. Many come in for "Education" but target working to send back overseas. They keep changing course to keep the visa or reapply again as a student to keep working Businesses like this policy as source of cheap workers and reduce pressure for pay increases Universities like overseas students as they are a legal source of virtually human trafficking that is detriment to the local students future and current work force increasing competition and cost of living with rent, house availability etc. In short there are $$$$$$$ for the players and conversely loss of $$$$$ for the citizens, current work force and the future of the youth (future work force). If they come to study then they should just study.
Restricting international students ability to work in Australia while studying didn’t work very well. Historically, while studying the students could work a limited number of hours. This lead to a black market where the students would try to find jobs paying in cash. The businesses paying in cash, would essentially say, “sure, we’ll pay you in cash, but below minimum wage, take it or leave it”. This put downward pressure on wages. It reduced the government’s GST intake (as the businesses would try to encourage customers to pay with cash so the businesses had less income to declare). It reduced the government’s income tax revenue. Limiting international student numbers is a better solution. It forces universities to be more selective.
@@JamielDeAbrew This just wouldn't be the case, if they are prepared to pay cash , they are already doing so .Reducing hours or workability wouldn't increase that to the levels you are suggesting, it would be illegal..... just as it is now to pay less than min wage etc. The solution is to crack down and enforce fines, the solution is not "well lets let *students* work unlimited in our country because otherwise some dodgy businesses might pay cash less than min wage". Any business not declaring GST is already breaking the law, again, so you enforce laws , you dont make obscure laws that affect everyone else to try REDUCE, you ENFORCE. Without enforcement a law means nothing
Not about "our", but ability to COMPLETE the terms and have the financial means to live in Australia. Then why not more higher cognitive ability Aussies apply? Got the funds? Got the brains?
@SagittarianArrows purely economic, far easier and cheaper for Indians and Chinese to get loans in their own countries for education in Australia than it is for Australians to get loans from our own banks. Has nothing to do with education levels in Australians. Australia is top ten in the highest intelligence capital index.
I think people in the comments are slightly confused. Many young Australians comparatively don’t want to go to university, and so there are loads of universities with few Australian kids. Even with HECS and loan help, people aren’t interested, and I believe this is to do with our toxic tall poppy culture. I was the only person in my year level 4 years ago to go to university, and I came from a low income household compared to them. Majority either still live with their parents or went into trades and local Non-degree jobs. Until Australian kids show an interest in their education, then we might as well cater to other countries. We have a beautiful country after all.
Im at uni , you are very confused. Many of us view Uni and say whats the point, you'll do a degree then just wont get hired because they've hired someone cheaper from overseas, or you have to compete with someone who says they will work for peanuts.
A lot of young Aussies prefer to work and travel first , get life experience then many go on to study further. Young Aussies are still figuring out their career paths.
Good, we’re full! Do they not see the demise of this country since they opened the flood gates? Back in the 80’s the italians and greeks came here and actually contributed to our way of life and made it even better. They didn’t look for handouts, they weren’t violent, they didn’t try and change our culture etc. It is heartbreaking to see the changes in this country now.
The Italians and Greeks were from western civilization just as we are. They were Christian. They weren't from cultures that tortured little girls by breaking the bones in their feet, to satisfy the preference of Chinese men for wives with 4" feet. The Greeks and Italians weren't polygamous or into honour killings, child marriage, slavery or caste.
We already know that the students don't add anything to the economy, it's a rouse to work, they also mostly send money back to their homeland, this is a negative for Australians all ways.
they do pay exorbitant uni fees which make up a massive portion of university revenues, which does add to the economy. i dont know where you get this notion, education is one of our largest exports (larger then gold and wheat combined)
@@popeagapitusi8 some education to international students is an export. Some international students earn all of the money to pay for their education while working in Australia. (Sometimes even while earning cash - so without paying income taxes).
@@JamielDeAbrewWell, if it's a legit degree at one of the Eight, tuition fee is at least 40k a year, and cost of living at least 20k a year. I would be interested in how to earn 60k+ tax-free with the burden study lol.
@@chesterchao3173 some don’t study at the one of the Eight. Maybe others study part time. There are some people that hot bed and others that live with multiple bank beds crammed into a bedroom. There are other international students on the other end of the spectrum - with $1000 sneakers and hoodies, luxury cars etc…
Come to Melbourne & see why it is a good thing🤌🏻 14,000 foreign and immigrant student (Asian majority) accommodation in the CBD, along with countless amounts of illegal air bnb not regulated/registered. This is NOT Multicultural, nor is this any longer reasonable to call this city Melbourne at all. $400 million went to immigration in last year... 180,000 Australians homeless or living on the street battling to get support. Tell me why the foreign policy favours this, while our oh so honourable government supports it with our hard earned tax dollars before supporting tax paying Australians?
400 million went to immigration? What does that even mean? I thought immigration was something government profited from, not something that was an expense, am i missing something?
International student often outbid citizens for rental housing. There are too many international students that don’t have access to affordable housing either, because there’s too many landlords (academic staff etc) who take advantage of students. Universities should house 100 percent of their international students instead of defending their landlords portfolios.
As an international student myself Cap would be good. As I’ve seen some people studying carpentry cooking pretty much everything 😂that is indeed visa hopping. Some people come to study costly courses then switch to small trade courses just to increase their stay and PR. While it will take a toll on genuine student who are truly studying and focused in their field.
instead of capping the international student , the government should have tight regulation on the education institution. stop blaming the International student because they have contribute a lot of the economy
The selling point is the ability to migrate after graduation. Australia pretends to export education, but really exports immigration. The catch is Australia’s economic system is currently a population growth Ponzi scheme… Australia imports more income tax payers (after graduation) to help fund aged care and aged pension. Without growing the population (with Australian children or immigrants), there would be fewer people each year to contribute (via taxes) towards these costs.
@@JamielDeAbrew What you are describing is the population Ponzi scheme. Import people to make a bigger tax base, then they get old so you have to import even more people, and they get old....
@@JamielDeAbrew Immigrants crowd up existing infrastructure and contribute to the need for still more infrastructure that everyone has to pay for, not just the newcomers that make it necessary. The taxes that they pay are used up on the infrastructure that they make necessary. No net gain.
Oh boo hoo. By their logic we should have an extra 1m students per year for more money right? So whos building all the housing? Infrustructure? Essential services?
Universiries suckling on the teet of rich Asian parents who send their kids to Aus needs reigning in. Why? 1 - lining their own pockets 2 - denying Aus students uni places bcos courses are fully subscribed by rich overseas students
International students cap and migrants cap for each country should be introduced long ago!!! Foreigners should never be allowed to purchase any property assets in Australia. Also, jobs at supermarket chains like Woolies and Coles should not be recruiting international student visa holders, these jobs should be reserved for Australian students studying in high school or tertiary education or Australian citizen stay-home-parents or elderlies in our community.
We pay 100K on our tuition fee and then we ask another 60,000 from our parents for our living expenses ?? Are you nuts ?? We international students don’t have unlimited money and 20 hours of part time is what is allowed.
The government doesn’t need to cap student numbers. It just needs to remove the link between studying at an Australian university and permanent residency. Then we’ll find out the real value of an Australian degree.
Australian aged pensioners don’t pay enough tax during their working life to cover their aged pension and aged care. Australia solves this problem by growing the population. Australia essentially imports young working aged people with a lifetime of income tax paying ahead of them. This essentially kicks the problem down the road. Many other countries do the same thing by having higher birth rates. With higher birth rates, the country has to pay to raise the child to become of working age. Most of the world needs to transition away from economic systems that are dependent on never ending population growth.
Australian students can't afford or don't have the points, but our universities take the foreign money, educate foreigners, and then promise migration or employment. Where's the fairness to our own children? Most parliamentarians got a free uni education.
Completely of due... Australian universities our for Australians..we are not Here to educate other countries as a priority we are here to educate Australian s
In 1978, president Carter approved 50,000 Chinese students to study in the US, despite of request for 5,000 students from Premier Deng Xiaoping, China. By 2020, 2 million Chinese students has graduated in masters and doctoral programs from US universities.
UNIVERSITY EDUCATION SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL AUSTRALIAN STUDENTS WITH A BARE MINIMUM OF COST .....EDUCATION IS NOT NOT A BUSINESS ....BUT a BASIC RIGHT OF ALL AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS
Why should Australian students have to compete for entry with international students. Every Australian student who applies should be given a place and only the gaps filled by international students.
The greedy universities should have to provide accommodation for all of their foreign students, they are supposed to be non-profit organisations yet behave like the greediest of corporates. The ABS "$40b export" claim is ridiculous as it counts any money spent in Australia by foreign students as an "export" regardless of where that money came from, ie a student works a part time job here and buys food with the money = "export".
I hope this is the solution needed, limiting immigration and universities.... 🤷♀️ let's see in 2 years time if this fix the problem of housing... blaming immigrants is not a new thing. Even hittler agreed with it. Now, corruption in the goverments, dodgy deals with powerful countries like China or USA, corruption in the unions etc can be very complex to deal with if not addressed by citizens at time. But again, I am hoping the propaganda of the Labour Party is accurate and they will heal the cancer limiting young student immigrants and foreings hard workers who moved here in the last years.. time will tell us who was right and who was corrupt, and Karma always turn back the energy to those who were dishonest in first place. Not even the Roman empire survived to the power of Karma!!!! ☺️
That’s kind of by design. Australia avoids an aging population. This helps with Australia’s current economic system which is a population growth Ponzi scheme. (Without immigration, the percentage of the population on the aged pension would just grow and grow). The catch is that the government and property owning citizens are wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Take the financial benefits of immigration without the financial costs - building additional housing, infrastructure etc…
@@JamielDeAbrew A child is two dependents: the child itself and the adult who must care for him. Children require expensive education. In the 1970s, women stopped having children and became worker/taxpayers themselves, resulting in an unnaturally large proportion of the population being in the workforce. Young populations actually have a smaller proportion of citizens in the workforce than do the elderly.
@@JamielDeAbrew "Without immigration, the percentage of the population on the aged pension would just grow and grow" No, it wouldn't. Humans don't live forever and immigrants get old too.
@@chriswatson1698 look at the birth rate, retirement age and age that Australian citizens start working full time. Australian’s study for longer than 50 years ago. They live a lot longer and (while retiring later), are retired for many more years. When the aged pension was first introduced, Australian essentially fell into upper and lower classes. * The upper class lived longer but never needed a government pension - as they were wealthy. * The lower class did manual labour and didn’t live very long after retiring. Because of this, the cost of the aged pension to society was much lower. The economy is essentially a population growth Ponzi scheme… Australia imports more young workers who have a lifetime of income taxes ahead of them. When these immigrants retire, Australia imports even more young workers. There are a few downsides to this Ponzi scheme. * One could argue if environmentally it’s sustainable. * Another issue is some of the per capita savings on pension expenditure needs to be redirected to infrastructure and housing (for a larger population). This could happen via government spending or via the free market. Unfortunately, this hasn’t happened.
why is very hard to understand? i give you clear sample what i witness personally...an international student shared our house and he was indian..he was working 5 days a week in nbn job and he was making more than $2500 a week this guy was able to buy a mustang in a year and he was just visiting his school sometimes...he was able to open his own business own abn full licence ...i have a question now whats the difference a permanentship and student? just come here extend your student visa every year make thousands send back to your countru every month buy properties in india etc and they saying they bring money to australia NOOO they taking our money away come on every single australian knows that well
who is interested in living in Australia anyway?! Try other countries where you can save money and get the same kind of education and even better like the USA!
Not true. They are all against this because it threatens their cash cow business model. We all fund these universities directly through our taxes and now indirpectly through higher rents given there are less houses for Australians (which translate through to high wages and then to higher goods & services prices).
how are those 2 the bench mark? hes the ceo of Unis and shes the Ceo of the group of 8 which i assume means the biggest 8 unis in oz (so technically both have the same job). and their the bench mark???? how every thing they say is bias there jobs literally rely on unis staying open for a pay.....thier bias af..next youll tell me they paid for this air time. i got nothing from this this other than there a 14k jobs in Australia that shouldn't really exist at all in the first place, so please help us so we can keep our fake jobs rather than help actual Australians yeah good one sbs
The ridiculous amount of foreign students doesn't help Australia. It's not an export. Two tier grading of assignments & exams. A whole cottage industry of those of similar ethnicity paying others to sit their exams for them. And in order to facilitate it the availability of our domestic housing supply is greatly restricted.
International students don't need a penny from the government or centerlink infact they pay over 50k fees rent houses and contribute to the economy. A good option to other immigrants that need to be on centrelink. After all the numbers are needed for the system and it's good when you get those trained in Australian universities
Some international students put downward pressure on wages by taking cash jobs paying cash below minimum wage. Some send money back to their countries. Some don’t integrate. Australia currently has a housing shortage. Basic math requires Australia to either build more housing and/or reduce immigration. Immigration should have been limited to housing supply. Education should cap the percentage of non-Australian students in any class (to improve integration). Education should cap the number of non-Australian students from a specific county to ensure classes have a multi-cultural environment. There should be group activities where students can’t work with people from their ethnic background (so international students from different countries and Australian’s learn to work together). International students should be banned from renting in suburbs who populations of people from their ethic backgrounds.
@@chesterchao3173 I do think immigration in general should be limited to housing and infrastructure supply. This would increase the chances of these immigrants having a good experience - leading to more immigrants wanting to come. It would also reduce discontent among some locals. Backpackers by definition are temporary. There’s no need to ban them. It could be a revolving door - as some leave others can come. This means it could be very sustainable. To gain culturally from backpackers, these backpackers do need to mix with locals. I’m not a fan of backpackers having work limits placed on them as it leads to black market cash payments at lower rates. Likewise I don’t like that backpackers are forced to do farm work to extend their visa as that puts downward pressure on farm wages - distorting the market. In theory I would support backpackers income being paid into account that they can only spend in Australia. This would reduce the number of backpackers saving money in Australia to spend travelling around Asia. In practice I don’t think it would work as it would push some towards working for cash.
Australia is wealthy in natural resources, businesses, governments etc. balancing out and capping international students shouldn’t affect Australia’s economy
It's simple, Australia wouldn't need the international school market if the Aussies pay the $40-$50b HECS-HELP debt. At the end of the day, Australia need the international school fees.
Immigration should not be aligned to higher education business strategies full stop! If their product isn't good enough to attract clients that's their problem.
Australian aged pensioners don’t pay enough tax during their working life to cover their aged pension and aged care. Australia solves this problem by growing the population. Australia essentially imports young working aged people with a lifetime of income tax paying ahead of them. This essentially kicks the problem down the road. Many other countries do the same thing by having higher birth rates. With higher birth rates, the country has to pay to raise the child to become of working age. Most of the world needs to transition away from economic systems that are dependent on never ending population growth.
Pretty bad news for INDIAN students. Who does not have the chance of a good education in India's shitty educational system. Indian students deserves good education... Should look for other destinations.
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@@joelc9439 that’s true but the crazy high fees at universities don’t even give them the chance to choose a professional pathway. We need to educate from within rather than educate foreign students who study here and take their knowledge back to their own countries.
Universities and Australian international collages are a major issue. There has been many visa scams surrounding the quality and legitimacy of these courses. You also have major employers such as our largest employer Woolworths who want cheap IT labour from India, as do a lot of other large IT departments because they get Indian workers who will work harder and longer hours for a much lower rate. Same with hiring migrants over locals in other industries.
All foreign workers must be paid the same rate as Australians for the same work.
@@masada2828 There are plenty of way to get around this without breaking the law. The employer pays the legal amount into the worker's bank account, but, to keep his job, the worker must "buy" the job in cash.
@@masada2828yeah but there not
@@masada2828 you can put out an ad for software engineer for min wage , you think Australian's are going to apply? No. so your point is redundant and misleading. Wages haven't kept up in any meaningful way , i earned the same amount now 10 years ago despite everything costing 100% more... you think thats because "all workers must get paid the same rate", thats just wrong and you know it, the difference in that time frame is constant increase in immigration PARTICULARLY from low wage countries/economically challenged ,and so they come here and think wow $24 an hour so goooooddd!!! and then realise why Australians wont take it ,but they have no choice.
So true@@webapple1
Should of been capped from the beginning.
Gillard got that wrong, very very wrong!
why?
@@jennyohara4011 Not enough houses to house them.
@@jennyohara4011 Not enough Aussie women and men of marriageable age.
Yes there are enough people of marriageable age and besides not everyone gets married and has kids.. they just form a civil partnership..
I did my degree at MIT (Melbourne) I was forced to do each and every one of the assignments with groups of foreigners who barely spoke English and didn’t do their work. I wanted good grades and ended up doing all the assignments on my own and carried everyone through the course. They purposely chose the worst students to put me in groups with so I would get them through. I brought it up with the heads of the school and I was told that was just the way it was, I had no choice as group work is a prerequisite. I was the only one actually doing the work so, ummmm ok. But I wasn’t allowed to hand in assignments on my own. The students were here to get residency eventually and a good chunk of their parents bought them property to live in whilst they were here. also they only gave scholarships to internationals. I fought so that domestic students could also qualify for them and was I offered a scholarship? No. I finished with a HD in every subject (they lowered the standards so pass grades were easier to get) severe depression and a $50k HELP debt that with my giant rent increase I’m struggling to pay off. Our system is beyond a joke.
Yep, I went to RMIT and they delivered engineering in baby speak and super slowed down for the non English speakers, the Chinese cohort who mostly did nothing and didn't interact with us in group assessments yet still passed, I distinctly remember the 3 or 4 Indian guys demanding to be rearranged out of the arbitrary teams, into just them for a team.. They were all there for the work the student visa opened up so weren't even present most of the time and were still passed even though there's minimum attendance requirements..
So after 20 years this is still hapenning aye? But worse today due to low dollar value.
For large business owners, immigration represents a source of affordable labor and potential customers for their products and services. For governments, immigrants constitute a source of tax revenue. Ultimately, everything is interconnected, and our jobs may be correlated to the existence of emigrants.
@@rayzsp9623 "a source of affordable labour..." meaning that immigration lowers wages. You think that that is a good thing. Well, it is good for capitalists. They get richer at the expense of the workers.
Recent research in UK and in Europe showed that in their nations, the lower paid immigrants from non-western countries actually took more out of the economy in the form of social services, than they put in, in taxes.
Immigration is only good for the immigrants themselves and for those already rich. Our per capita GDP has been shrinking for 6 quarters and inequality has increased.
OHHH, OHHH, but hold on, your living in the lucky country, get over it and stop complaining!
All the international students i know, came to Australia to study and get PR, then citizenship. They never had intentions of returning back to their home country.
Many of the international students I know do not want citizenship and many are here for only one year ..it's called exchange student...
1.4 immigrants per new job, 20 per house. Australians are being forced into poverty and homelessness. 290,000 homeless so far. The government has betrayed Australians.
Spot on!
Remember when the Left used to represent the working classes? Now the left hates the working classes. And calls everyone that disagrees with it ‘far right’ or ‘racist’.
Too many Asians in Australia
@AlexThipthorp what difference does it make what race they are? The point is there isn't enough homes, jobs, roads, hospitals, sewers, electrical grid, schools and so on for all the people....
@@morganoox3838 There was enough until beginning in the 1970s.
Oh and another visa industry is big food franchises. On reddit there is a lot of discussion of how in the US and UK the big fast food chains are operated by Indians who are running them down to the ground. In Australia, how many subways, pizza huts / domino’s etc do you encounter that are operate by non- Indians? These fast food chains have given up on their product, obviously help Indians get visa is more profitable!
Another is how backpackers can extend their visa by working on rural areas eg farm work.
This has added supply of workers - pushing down the market rate of payment.
These workers often save their income for when they are back in Australian cities (or to spend travelling Asia). This means the money doesn’t go back into building the rural communities - eg cafes, shops, homes, restaurants etc…
(As it would if they spent the money locally).
The combination of lower pay and lack of local spending by pickers makes it less desirable for Australian’s to be pickers.
@@JamielDeAbrew Also South Pacific Islanders and Asians do the same
I've seen plenty of middle easterners and Chinese.. and also Filipinos..
Too little too late. This should have been done 12 years ago.
No 50 years ago
Quality over quantity ... Australian students MUST come first ... don't forget who you work for and why you exist
Australia comes first not its students. I think it’s Australia’s inability to maintain their corrupt that led it here. As immigration is the only reason why low population nations where no one has enough time or patience in their life to even have kids at a decent rate. Otherwise with so many condemning USA and Europe about immigrants they still are making it easy for skilled ones?
On the other hand… kids from undeveloped countries find it easy to do the university itself but cannot afford the cost of living increase in australia. Most fail because they couldn’t manage to make enough money to live and leave the country and less due to their lack in studies. So to a guy from undeveloped country it sounds like ok I need to manage my costs which I already do ( but trust me living as a poor in India is 1000 times better than living as a student without a part time in Australia)
@@jagggyjazz8010 I think the children of the people paying the taxes that keep these institutions running and want a better future for their children should come first ... call me crazy 🤪
@@jagggyjazz8010 a lot of international students have poor English comprehension skills let’s be realistic.
@@MelaniaRose Yeah! Its obvious they are not from the place but they do learn with time and try restricting immigrants and see what would happen… Low birth rates in developed countries where it was not common to have woman in workplace have less than 2 kids per couple and with immigrants who do have more kids its still the same case and the population is old. It would be in a similar situation like Japan where everyone is in the retirement age and very few working. Do you think that white people govt’s want other races to be in their country…? In most cases its a big no, but they really don’t have a choice with most of their population opting not to do technical studies and do management or laborious jabs like running a pizza shop or delivering one etc.,
Thats why the foreigner folks learn english cause it’s the only language the locals can speak
@@MelaniaRose IDK how English is the quality. They do communicate clear enough and they don’t need to write poems and literally most foreigners speak good English but not the slang local to the people. Like Indians always will pronounce everything written in general and australians sound like american men drunk and speaking english etc.,
The universities use international students as cash cows, and they are taking houses away from Australian tenants.
How dare the universities say limiting their cash cows threatens their financial viability!
The univeraities' exploitation of their social licences is destroying the financial viability of Australian tenants and preventing many Australians from finding a place to live!
Yeah, the universities have been using particularly Sydney for their own financial benefit without any consideration about the social impact of importing large numbers of international students. Effects on housing, infrastructure etc.
Then the federal government needs to reinstate funding taken away by the previous LNP government. Abbott was responsible for that.
@@donna25871 Typical Left response- blame the LNP. The universities have been using publicly owned universities as their own private companies for decades, more interested in money than educating Aussie, which is what they were made for. They are to blame, not either side of politics. They don’t care about the social cost, just how they can profit.
@@donna25871 When a Vice Chancellor is on in excess of 1.5 million AUD, I think a larger funding cut is in order.
International student often outbid citizens for rental housing. There are too many international students that don’t have access to affordable housing either, because there’s too many landlords (academic staff etc) who take advantage of students. Universities should house 100 percent of their international students instead of defending their landlords portfolios.
Universities have long been a hot bed for Cheap workers + cash cow for Universities + source of support for Politicians being lobbied by business that want cheap workers.
Allowing students to work is essentially a huge selling point for these students to migrate. Many come in for "Education" but target working to send back overseas. They keep changing course to keep the visa or reapply again as a student to keep working
Businesses like this policy as source of cheap workers and reduce pressure for pay increases
Universities like overseas students as they are a legal source of virtually human trafficking that is detriment to the local students future and current work force increasing competition and cost of living with rent, house availability etc.
In short there are $$$$$$$ for the players and conversely loss of $$$$$ for the citizens, current work force and the future of the youth (future work force).
If they come to study then they should just study.
Restricting international students ability to work in Australia while studying didn’t work very well.
Historically, while studying the students could work a limited number of hours.
This lead to a black market where the students would try to find jobs paying in cash. The businesses paying in cash, would essentially say, “sure, we’ll pay you in cash, but below minimum wage, take it or leave it”.
This put downward pressure on wages. It reduced the government’s GST intake (as the businesses would try to encourage customers to pay with cash so the businesses had less income to declare). It reduced the government’s income tax revenue.
Limiting international student numbers is a better solution. It forces universities to be more selective.
@@JamielDeAbrew This just wouldn't be the case, if they are prepared to pay cash , they are already doing so .Reducing hours or workability wouldn't increase that to the levels you are suggesting, it would be illegal..... just as it is now to pay less than min wage etc. The solution is to crack down and enforce fines, the solution is not "well lets let *students* work unlimited in our country because otherwise some dodgy businesses might pay cash less than min wage". Any business not declaring GST is already breaking the law, again, so you enforce laws , you dont make obscure laws that affect everyone else to try REDUCE, you ENFORCE. Without enforcement a law means nothing
it's about time educate our people not others
Not about "our", but ability to COMPLETE the terms and have the financial means to live in Australia. Then why not more higher cognitive ability Aussies apply? Got the funds? Got the brains?
@SagittarianArrows purely economic, far easier and cheaper for Indians and Chinese to get loans in their own countries for education in Australia than it is for Australians to get loans from our own banks. Has nothing to do with education levels in Australians. Australia is top ten in the highest intelligence capital index.
@@Zadysseus Yep.
@@Zadysseus wrong, their interest rate is higher
@jerrykumar7853 there's a shortage of tradies, not people with business or IT degrees
I think people in the comments are slightly confused. Many young Australians comparatively don’t want to go to university, and so there are loads of universities with few Australian kids. Even with HECS and loan help, people aren’t interested, and I believe this is to do with our toxic tall poppy culture. I was the only person in my year level 4 years ago to go to university, and I came from a low income household compared to them. Majority either still live with their parents or went into trades and local Non-degree jobs. Until Australian kids show an interest in their education, then we might as well cater to other countries. We have a beautiful country after all.
We have too many universities.
There're not enough tradesmen, so you're the one confused.
Im at uni , you are very confused. Many of us view Uni and say whats the point, you'll do a degree then just wont get hired because they've hired someone cheaper from overseas, or you have to compete with someone who says they will work for peanuts.
Australians are going to university more than ever. People even do multiple degrees. We need more tradies not more uni graduates.
A lot of young Aussies prefer to work and travel first , get life experience then many go on to study further. Young Aussies are still figuring out their career paths.
What about our own children not foreigners.
Agree! Literally educating a bunch of Asians and giving them housing. Australia has become a satellite state for Asia
Should've been capped long time ago please stop Australia to be like UK, the citizens or PR need Jobs too.
Good, we’re full! Do they not see the demise of this country since they opened the flood gates? Back in the 80’s the italians and greeks came here and actually contributed to our way of life and made it even better. They didn’t look for handouts, they weren’t violent, they didn’t try and change our culture etc. It is heartbreaking to see the changes in this country now.
The Italians and Greeks were from western civilization just as we are. They were Christian. They weren't from cultures that tortured little girls by breaking the bones in their feet, to satisfy the preference of Chinese men for wives with 4" feet. The Greeks and Italians weren't polygamous or into honour killings, child marriage, slavery or caste.
@@albback8176 Read a history book, it didn’t start as a criminal colony at all.
We already know that the students don't add anything to the economy, it's a rouse to work, they also mostly send money back to their homeland, this is a negative for Australians all ways.
After graduating they do contribute towards Australia’s current population growth Ponzi scheme (through income tax and GST)
they do pay exorbitant uni fees which make up a massive portion of university revenues, which does add to the economy. i dont know where you get this notion, education is one of our largest exports (larger then gold and wheat combined)
@@popeagapitusi8 some education to international students is an export.
Some international students earn all of the money to pay for their education while working in Australia. (Sometimes even while earning cash - so without paying income taxes).
@@JamielDeAbrewWell, if it's a legit degree at one of the Eight, tuition fee is at least 40k a year, and cost of living at least 20k a year. I would be interested in how to earn 60k+ tax-free with the burden study lol.
@@chesterchao3173 some don’t study at the one of the Eight. Maybe others study part time.
There are some people that hot bed and others that live with multiple bank beds crammed into a bedroom.
There are other international students on the other end of the spectrum - with $1000 sneakers and hoodies, luxury cars etc…
You know things have gone too far when classes are conducted in Mandarin.
Come to Melbourne & see why it is a good thing🤌🏻 14,000 foreign and immigrant student (Asian majority) accommodation in the CBD, along with countless amounts of illegal air bnb not regulated/registered. This is NOT Multicultural, nor is this any longer reasonable to call this city Melbourne at all. $400 million went to immigration in last year... 180,000 Australians homeless or living on the street battling to get support. Tell me why the foreign policy favours this, while our oh so honourable government supports it with our hard earned tax dollars before supporting tax paying Australians?
400 million went to immigration? What does that even mean? I thought immigration was something government profited from, not something that was an expense, am i missing something?
It's not just Melbourne but also in Sydney.. And illegal Airbnb has been a problem for a very long time..
Foreigners also pay tax so get the facts right...
Too bad, people in low income need places to live too !!!
If you don’t we will end up like the Uk
No, it's great, because suburbs near me have pretty much become India. And also, many unis are putting money over quality of education.
Many ma$ter$ $tudent$ can't even work out simple fundamentals taught in first year.
India, China and other parts of the world.
International student often outbid citizens for rental housing. There are too many international students that don’t have access to affordable housing either, because there’s too many landlords (academic staff etc) who take advantage of students. Universities should house 100 percent of their international students instead of defending their landlords portfolios.
As an international student myself
Cap would be good. As I’ve seen some people studying carpentry cooking pretty much everything 😂that is indeed visa hopping. Some people come to study costly courses then switch to small trade courses just to increase their stay and PR. While it will take a toll on genuine student who are truly studying and focused in their field.
If they graduate and work there's no problem..
@@joelc9439 yes I just did 🫠 started looking for it.
instead of capping the international student , the government should have tight regulation on the education institution. stop blaming the International student because they have contribute a lot of the economy
Lots of international students aren’t in Australia to study but to work and send money home.
Sydney Uni has been a commercial entity for decades 😐
then why did Australia lose a record $8.5 billion (~$A12.5 billion) in net migrant remittances in 2023?
Covid remember covid..
Abolish it completely, the lack of revenue for a year or two will help the locals appreciate international students a bit more.
I dont mind the students, put a cap on permanent migration.
50000 a year.
The selling point is the ability to migrate after graduation.
Australia pretends to export education, but really exports immigration.
The catch is Australia’s economic system is currently a population growth Ponzi scheme…
Australia imports more income tax payers (after graduation) to help fund aged care and aged pension. Without growing the population (with Australian children or immigrants), there would be fewer people each year to contribute (via taxes) towards these costs.
The students swallow up a HUGE amount of affordable housing. This raises prices and makes it incredibly difficult for low income Australians...
@@JamielDeAbrew What you are describing is the population Ponzi scheme. Import people to make a bigger tax base, then they get old so you have to import even more people, and they get old....
Zero per year!
@@JamielDeAbrew Immigrants crowd up existing infrastructure and contribute to the need for still more infrastructure that everyone has to pay for, not just the newcomers that make it necessary.
The taxes that they pay are used up on the infrastructure that they make necessary. No net gain.
Education Minister need to focus on Australians
Australians do not want to focus on themselves though.. many of them do not want to work or study..
Oh boo hoo. By their logic we should have an extra 1m students per year for more money right? So whos building all the housing? Infrustructure? Essential services?
Exactly. Australia must move away from this population growth Ponzi scheme of an economy.
About d*mn time! Aussies first for Aussie education!
But many Aussies do NOT want to study or work..
Universiries suckling on the teet of rich Asian parents who send their kids to Aus needs reigning in. Why?
1 - lining their own pockets
2 - denying Aus students uni places bcos courses are fully subscribed by rich overseas students
If they are rich then they should stay where they are!
Many of them are not rich and they do not need to stay where they!
Absolutely overdue, while at it cap international investors owning Australian property
Too late! It's already gone.
Don't cap it. Stop it
International students cap and migrants cap for each country should be introduced long ago!!!
Foreigners should never be allowed to purchase any property assets in Australia.
Also, jobs at supermarket chains like Woolies and Coles should not be recruiting international student visa holders, these jobs should be reserved for Australian students studying in high school or tertiary education or Australian citizen stay-home-parents or elderlies in our community.
We pay 100K on our tuition fee and then we ask another 60,000 from our parents for our living expenses ?? Are you nuts ?? We international students don’t have unlimited money and 20 hours of part time is what is allowed.
Many elderly do not want to work they're happy to get the pension! And many Australian people do not want to live they want the dole!!
The government doesn’t need to cap student numbers. It just needs to remove the link between studying at an Australian university and permanent residency.
Then we’ll find out the real value of an Australian degree.
Fewer than half are at university. They are in cheaper vocational courses or English language courses.
Fair enough
Many will still get permanent residency through marriage and work and being wealthy..
Australia gov should look after own people first,
Australian aged pensioners don’t pay enough tax during their working life to cover their aged pension and aged care.
Australia solves this problem by growing the population. Australia essentially imports young working aged people with a lifetime of income tax paying ahead of them. This essentially kicks the problem down the road.
Many other countries do the same thing by having higher birth rates. With higher birth rates, the country has to pay to raise the child to become of working age.
Most of the world needs to transition away from economic systems that are dependent on never ending population growth.
Gillard did, she allowed her mate Hillary to open and benefit from Torrens University. She just neglected Australians, like so many politicians do.
@@JamielDeAbrew Keep in mind , Australia is rich in natural resources most of the time a large population isn’t needed
Australia might be rich in natural resources but that would one day come to an end.. not just Australia but everywhere else..
Australian students can't afford or don't have the points, but our universities take the foreign money, educate foreigners, and then promise migration or employment. Where's the fairness to our own children? Most parliamentarians got a free uni education.
Agreed. Domestic students are treated like second class citizens
Many local australian students do not want to study or work.. and they take things for granted.
Completely of due... Australian universities our for Australians..we are not Here to educate other countries as a priority we are here to educate Australian s
In 1978, president Carter approved 50,000 Chinese students to study in the US, despite of request for 5,000 students from Premier Deng Xiaoping, China.
By 2020, 2 million Chinese students has graduated in masters and doctoral programs from US universities.
UNIVERSITY EDUCATION SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL AUSTRALIAN STUDENTS WITH A BARE MINIMUM OF COST .....EDUCATION IS NOT NOT A BUSINESS ....BUT a BASIC RIGHT OF ALL AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS
PLENTY OF AUSTRALIANS DO NOT WANT TO STUDY.. AND NO, IT IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT A RIGHT.
Why should Australian students have to compete for entry with international students. Every Australian student who applies should be given a place and only the gaps filled by international students.
They should be given a place if they are eligible for their course and have the grades. Don’t beg and compete for the G8 universities .
Why would the students want to come here, when they know they have nowhere to live?
money we need money bro
Because ALL of them come from wealthy families who can afford to pay more rent than low income Australians !!
@@edwardfletcher7790 Because most of them are much more educated and intelligent than the average Australian.
@@jamesgray7301 Hahahaha 🤣 you're funny..,
Because you can purchase property on a student visa
The greedy universities should have to provide accommodation for all of their foreign students, they are supposed to be non-profit organisations yet behave like the greediest of corporates. The ABS "$40b export" claim is ridiculous as it counts any money spent in Australia by foreign students as an "export" regardless of where that money came from, ie a student works a part time job here and buys food with the money = "export".
It is ultimately going in your government’s pockets one way or another. What are those idiots doing ?
I hope this is the solution needed, limiting immigration and universities.... 🤷♀️ let's see in 2 years time if this fix the problem of housing... blaming immigrants is not a new thing. Even hittler agreed with it. Now, corruption in the goverments, dodgy deals with powerful countries like China or USA, corruption in the unions etc can be very complex to deal with if not addressed by citizens at time. But again, I am hoping the propaganda of the Labour Party is accurate and they will heal the cancer limiting young student immigrants and foreings hard workers who moved here in the last years.. time will tell us who was right and who was corrupt, and Karma always turn back the energy to those who were dishonest in first place. Not even the Roman empire survived to the power of Karma!!!! ☺️
So what!!! The criticizers should be criticized for their ignorance..
AUSTRALIA IS FULL!!!
The problem is they stay and they don't want to return to their country 😅
That’s not a problem. They pay big $for their education and the country benefits with educated migrants who don’t have to requalify as doctors etc.
That’s kind of by design.
Australia avoids an aging population. This helps with Australia’s current economic system which is a population growth Ponzi scheme.
(Without immigration, the percentage of the population on the aged pension would just grow and grow).
The catch is that the government and property owning citizens are wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Take the financial benefits of immigration without the financial costs - building additional housing, infrastructure etc…
@@JamielDeAbrew A child is two dependents: the child itself and the adult who must care for him. Children require expensive education.
In the 1970s, women stopped having children and became worker/taxpayers themselves, resulting in an unnaturally large proportion of the population being in the workforce. Young populations actually have a smaller proportion of citizens in the workforce than do the elderly.
@@JamielDeAbrew "Without immigration, the percentage of the population on the aged pension would just grow and grow" No, it wouldn't. Humans don't live forever and immigrants get old too.
@@chriswatson1698 look at the birth rate, retirement age and age that Australian citizens start working full time.
Australian’s study for longer than 50 years ago. They live a lot longer and (while retiring later), are retired for many more years.
When the aged pension was first introduced, Australian essentially fell into upper and lower classes.
* The upper class lived longer but never needed a government pension - as they were wealthy.
* The lower class did manual labour and didn’t live very long after retiring.
Because of this, the cost of the aged pension to society was much lower.
The economy is essentially a population growth Ponzi scheme…
Australia imports more young workers who have a lifetime of income taxes ahead of them. When these immigrants retire, Australia imports even more young workers.
There are a few downsides to this Ponzi scheme.
* One could argue if environmentally it’s sustainable.
* Another issue is some of the per capita savings on pension expenditure needs to be redirected to infrastructure and housing (for a larger population). This could happen via government spending or via the free market. Unfortunately, this hasn’t happened.
Same problem in Canada.
why is very hard to understand? i give you clear sample what i witness personally...an international student shared our house and he was indian..he was working 5 days a week in nbn job and he was making more than $2500 a week this guy was able to buy a mustang in a year and he was just visiting his school sometimes...he was able to open his own business own abn full licence ...i have a question now whats the difference a permanentship and student? just come here extend your student visa every year make thousands send back to your countru every month buy properties in india etc and they saying they bring money to australia NOOO they taking our money away come on every single australian knows that well
How about train Australians first then random foreigners??
As if we don't educate our own people for free if we have the capability to do so.
There are quite a few scholarships for local students..
No problem teaching aussie students who live in remote area's on line, do the same with international students..
I agreed 💯
Scare of touching big corps tax evasion 😂, blaming student
who is interested in living in Australia anyway?! Try other countries where you can save money and get the same kind of education and even better like the USA!
The smart ones are interested that’s why ! Living in the USA you have lower minimum wage
Only Regional universities complaining.
Not true. They are all against this because it threatens their cash cow business model.
We all fund these universities directly through our taxes and now indirpectly through higher rents given there are less houses for Australians (which translate through to high wages and then to higher goods & services prices).
Age cap not number cap.
@@karenbourke3751 what about by religion and values too?
No balance the cap out by numbers.
how are those 2 the bench mark? hes the ceo of Unis and shes the Ceo of the group of 8 which i assume means the biggest 8 unis in oz (so technically both have the same job). and their the bench mark???? how every thing they say is bias there jobs literally rely on unis staying open for a pay.....thier bias af..next youll tell me they paid for this air time. i got nothing from this this other than there a 14k jobs in Australia that shouldn't really exist at all in the first place, so please help us so we can keep our fake jobs rather than help actual Australians yeah good one sbs
This is taking to long, talk is only talk and not much have changed.
The ridiculous amount of foreign students doesn't help Australia. It's not an export.
Two tier grading of assignments & exams. A whole cottage industry of those of similar ethnicity paying others to sit their exams for them.
And in order to facilitate it the availability of our domestic housing supply is greatly restricted.
V good
International students don't need a penny from the government or centerlink infact they pay over 50k fees rent houses and contribute to the economy. A good option to other immigrants that need to be on centrelink. After all the numbers are needed for the system and it's good when you get those trained in Australian universities
Some international students put downward pressure on wages by taking cash jobs paying cash below minimum wage.
Some send money back to their countries.
Some don’t integrate.
Australia currently has a housing shortage. Basic math requires Australia to either build more housing and/or reduce immigration.
Immigration should have been limited to housing supply.
Education should cap the percentage of non-Australian students in any class (to improve integration).
Education should cap the number of non-Australian students from a specific county to ensure classes have a multi-cultural environment. There should be group activities where students can’t work with people from their ethnic background (so international students from different countries and Australian’s learn to work together).
International students should be banned from renting in suburbs who populations of people from their ethic backgrounds.
@@JamielDeAbrewYou probably think that backpackers should largely be banned as well haha
@@chesterchao3173 I do think immigration in general should be limited to housing and infrastructure supply. This would increase the chances of these immigrants having a good experience - leading to more immigrants wanting to come. It would also reduce discontent among some locals.
Backpackers by definition are temporary. There’s no need to ban them. It could be a revolving door - as some leave others can come. This means it could be very sustainable.
To gain culturally from backpackers, these backpackers do need to mix with locals.
I’m not a fan of backpackers having work limits placed on them as it leads to black market cash payments at lower rates. Likewise I don’t like that backpackers are forced to do farm work to extend their visa as that puts downward pressure on farm wages - distorting the market.
In theory I would support backpackers income being paid into account that they can only spend in Australia. This would reduce the number of backpackers saving money in Australia to spend travelling around Asia. In practice I don’t think it would work as it would push some towards working for cash.
International students are on huge debts and their parents take big loans
@@MelaniaRose Which draws money out of Australia to pay back those loans.
Has alays just he a way to get a visa and work and then stat here
Speak English.
Haha, they want to cut off their source of income.
Australia is wealthy in natural resources, businesses, governments etc. balancing out and capping international students shouldn’t affect Australia’s economy
@@MelaniaRose well, it already did.
Starmer wants all the Africans?
It's simple, Australia wouldn't need the international school market if the Aussies pay the $40-$50b HECS-HELP debt. At the end of the day, Australia need the international school fees.
Immigration should not be aligned to higher education business strategies full stop! If their product isn't good enough to attract clients that's their problem.
All the students are Indian
And Chinese and Afghani and Pakistani and Iranian and African.
About time , why not help Australia citizens get an education and not the rest of the world
Very few wants to go to unis
Australian aged pensioners don’t pay enough tax during their working life to cover their aged pension and aged care.
Australia solves this problem by growing the population. Australia essentially imports young working aged people with a lifetime of income tax paying ahead of them. This essentially kicks the problem down the road.
Many other countries do the same thing by having higher birth rates. With higher birth rates, the country has to pay to raise the child to become of working age.
Most of the world needs to transition away from economic systems that are dependent on never ending population growth.
Spoken like a foreigner
This is Meaningful discussion, rest are just selfish opinions @@JamielDeAbrew
But even many countries with higher birth rates are also slowing down because they realize that a high population is not a good thing..
Deportation on the way 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nah it's not..
Pretty bad news for INDIAN students. Who does not have the chance of a good education in India's shitty educational system.
Indian students deserves good education... Should look for other destinations.
Indian Chinese and other parts of the world...
Australia is overrated. Reform your own country universities.
Nope...
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about time
How about educating just Australian citizens instead of all of bloody asia! This country is a joke!
Stop them all and educate our own kids first.
Many of your kids don't want to work and study..
@@joelc9439 that’s true but the crazy high fees at universities don’t even give them the chance to choose a professional pathway. We need to educate from within rather than educate foreign students who study here and take their knowledge back to their own countries.
Zero immigration
Just make international students pay 3 times they already pay👍that way unis only need 1student out of 3😮🤣🤣
Hahaha!! And then the Uni will close down and the people will go to Centrelink.
Not many people get a job because of a degree 😂 so just get a real job