They Stole My Music and My Money
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Hi! We’re really sorry to hear about this and appreciate you bringing this to our attention. We take matters like this very seriously and can confirm that the claim has since been released. However, we’d like to ensure this is fully resolved for you. Could you please reach out to us here: hello@epidemicsound.com.
suuuure
well done and respect for resolving this for this good man, how could this have happened in the first place?
Well, well. Was just thinking the other day of doing a yearly sub with ES. For sure not now!!
Someone at Epidemic should lose their job, sir. This is simply unacceptable and is going to cost more than money for Epidemic. Purely irredeemable.
Ya'll insane for this. I work for someone who uses your subscription with their content production and the amount of other issues we've had to deal with... jesus christ.
Filmmaker here. I'll never use Epidemic again after hearing this story and will spread word within my community. Kudos for posting this video and more power to you. Godspeed.
What a very fitting name for a scam conglomerate
I would never use crap like Epidemic anyway. I write my own music. Sadly, we live in a culture of convenience over original creation.
Filmmaker! I love your music! Electronic music is somewhat of a niche interest for me (I'm more into punk/alternative), but all of your work is amazing, I've been listening to your albums for months now. I bought some of your stuff on bandcamp too. I want to start making my own electronic music from your influence. Thank you!
@ I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I’m not “Filmmaker” the artist. I’m a Filmmaker by profession.
@@beauchampy Haha! My bad 🤣
TH-cam needs to implement a policy that penalizes companies or individuals that put out false copyright challenges... the three strikes and you're out needs to work both ways.
Agreed
Yes
YT is complicit. Their content ID system and policies around it favor those who rip people off, not the other way around.
@thesrabbit Yes, it goes well beyond the music making community, as if that weren't bad enough. Some content creators knowingly make false copyright allegations just to harm others they happen to dislike or disagree with, and face no penalty when their claims are struck down.
In my mind, it's a lot like people who make false r@pe allegations. Such people should serve prison time, but instead, they never face penalty.
Totally agree!
calmest and most chill "angry & upset" guy ever -- wish everyone handled their emotions this well
They did exactly the same to me.. I appealed, and even though I told them I screen record all my creations for legal purposes, they still rejected my appeal. I went ahead with the 2nd appeal, fired off a URL to my screen recording and never heard from them again, not even an apology (but it did get my track released). Namaste
Why is the copyright claimant automatically granted all clout and authority by default? Why is TH-cam automatically assuming an uploader is in the wrong? This is guilty until proven innocent. Unacceptable.
It's the compromise reached to comply with the DMCA. If TH-cam didn't do this, they would be responsible for copyright infringements, but because they do this they get to publish without spending any money on moderation. Just follow the money and you have your answer.
Just like when they demonetised my walking blues video for 'too many click-throughs'. How can I control what people do?
These days your guilty till proven innocent
There is more money in screwing people on these platforms and in court than there is in the model of licensing. Perverse incentives. It’s what you get with monopolies run by people with no conscience or ethics.
DCMA.
Rick Beato and Ola Englund are dealing with these problems as well. Stolen music republished by Chinese scammers, where the original REAL artists are getting copyright strikes. It's insane.
A lot of Chinese IP theft is actually orchestrated by British companies hiring them to do it, so England can claim innocence.
Been that way for a century. England doesn't technically have colonies anymore, but they still use colonies!
Chinese. Whoda thunk it?
The only way these folks will be stopped is by destroying the commercial viability of it through processes like CCB dot gov claims and DCMA counterclaims. The penalties for this will add up over time if everyone responded with a counterclaim via the ccb. Online service providers (OSPs): In limited circumstances, the CCB has jurisdiction to hear claims against OSPs that are referring, linking, or storing allegedly infringing material on behalf of a user, provided the OSP has been notified of the infringement through a properly submitted takedown notice under the DMCA but fails to expeditiously remove or disable access to the material.
I put out a song once that kept falsly claiming copyright on others videos and it made me like 100 bucks in a day or two before I noticed....I had two options....just let it keep doing that and take money from others, or removing it for sale/copyright....so I did that. I felt so bad about having even had like those 100 bucks given to me, IDK how people live with themselves just stealing others music.
You don't think the Chinese weather balloons could of hacked anything of importance? Naw, we're safe.
I've never listened to someone raging over stolen content and still feel so peaceful inside. Bill's got some unmatched calming energy. He may just be the IRL chill guy
"Raging"?
This is why not a single note of my original music will end up on TH-cam. They don’t do enough to protect content creators from scam artists.
Out of curiosity, where do you play and/or post your content? To a certain degree you have to go where the people are... I'm all for protecting original content, but it's hard to pay bills with a box full of amazing music that is stuffed under the bed
@@thomasfisher1829 personally, I recommend using TH-cam for short promo snippets, to promote something else (Bandcamp, Own website, Soundcloud, etc). I agree with Nate, this platform simply isn’t anything content creators can rely on. It has a very creator-hostile policy. Much better to use it just for promo and grow your garden elsewhere.
@@thomasfisher1829”You gotta do what you can to keep your love alive. Try not to confuse it with what you do to survive.”
Jackson Browne
It'll end up there anyways
@@thomasfisher1829 true, maybe samples and snippets. I'm thinking about Bandcamp.
But I'm just on my journey
Sorry to hear that. Happened to me for using a Dm chord. Been claimed by the same kind of company. I contested, instead of doing anything they let it run out after 30 day. During that time, my video was earning them money. I’m not even monetized. So for 30 days there were adverts on my video, funneling money to them, then the copyright claim vanished. It’s a scam. Yt knows it, the publishing companies know. Nothing gets done. Do the math, funneling 30 ct out of millions of copyright claims. Big numbers in the end. It’s a sad thing for creators
wo w thats disgusting. can remember who but I recently saw a video where a guy explains that soon all possible musical notations will be copyrighted by AI and there wont be any human musicians allowed lol
@SadunKal I've seen that too. Doesn't sound good at all
luckily never had one claimed before, just wondering cant you make it private until its resolved so they dont make money of it?
@@MrBattlehunter I can't remember. But honestly pride gets in the way too... I had 2 claims, the first one I mailed the artist and it was swiftly removed with an apology. He was as annoyed as I was. Second one was the scam I described. Tbh, what's really bothering is that anyone can claim anything and at the same time they get to decide if it's valid or not. This system has to change. I'm not holding my breath
@@Lazypixel yea i can understand that, i feel like its just a matter of when not if its gonna happen and im already dreading it
Its a well known scam. Its organised crime. Talk to rick beato
and Ola Englund
@@j.s.m.5351 why is that?
@@j.s.m.5351
You need to provide more detail than just a snide comment in regards to Beato.
It's not just rick. It's been dozens and dozens of musicians over the course of the last several years. This is not new. This has been going on for a very long time. LED zeppelin, had stairway to heaven, in litigation for 40 years. In those 40 years time, every single music platform and social media platform, has used some type of music, to build their platforms from. And never paid their musicians.
Your technocratic overlords, are in the business, of robbing rockstars. All of them do it, sony, BMG capital, they're all ripping everybody off. They are in huge financial troubles. They are in such huge financial trouble right now, sony, after they accidentally burned their warehouse of Masters down. Has been taking what music they can find. And re-recording it with female voices... This is why some of your favorite songs from Rock and roll, have been rearranged, re-orchestrated, and resung, by people you've never heard of. I mean seriously there's nobody that they won't rip off. The other day I heard rearrangement and a female voice singing Maggie May by Rod Stewart...
I'm like damn.... The song has a whole different meaning now!
@@mr.mckinnon5680 You're like Elaine's boyfriend Jake Jarmel, but with commas instead of exclamation marks lol
Here's what I did, Bill: I subscribed to Echoes of Orion. I didn't even know about that channel. I listen to a lot of ambient music, and it's a pleasure to hear your creative guitar-playing in an ambient recoding. Also, I've seen videos by Venus Theory on this same issue, where a corporation slapped him with a copyright claim against his own music. This has also happened to Matths, Matt Hodson, a well-known UK synth composer. It's a growing epidemic of corporations using AI to fraudulently claim content from original creators. We need to address this at wider scale in the music industry, such as the annual NAMM show.
I mentioned in a post that we can complain to TH-cam aka Google about this. I am running across this a lot. I do think we can all send complaints to YT and keep on sending them. The button to do this is near the tagging, but it is hidden inside one of their drop down menus on my upload page. I do take some comfort that all of us are facing this challenge and hope our collective voicing inspires positive change.
I see their response. Because you have embarrassed them, you got them to release your music. I enjoy your music and appreciate you sharing your techniques. Thank you.
Epidemic Sound is the same organisation that pays composers to churn out royalty free music that populates 90% of Spotify's major instrumental playlists, and a massive amount of incidental background music on TH-cam (e.g. most fitness videos). "Hanna Lindgren" is probably a moniker for one of their ghost writers, I bet you won't find a real bio or any evidence of this artist in real life.
I noticed as well that a lot of their tracks are knock offs of known artists. For example there is a track that strongly emulates Talking Heads 'This must be the place'. So close that TH could file a claim.
@@nutritionontape it's the factory farming of music, even without AI involved.
@@adde65yeah. It’s about the get a million times worse.
Epidemic sound is just a royalty free music library. At least that music is made by human beings. Wait until people start churning out thousands of AI tracks per day and flood the streaming platforms and TH-cam with them. It’s already happening. Going to be a content ID nightmare.
@@nutritionontape what is the Epidemic track called?
I'm really devastated to hear this. So many of us put out our original music here. I hope you win this brother.👊
I love music. I love playing music. I love sharing music. I love listening to music. I love thinking and daydreaming about music.
But then there is the music industry, mainly populated by a giant mass of people for whom love of music is a forgotten afterthought. For these people the fact that people love music is just a weakness for them to exploit and profit from for money or fame or power or whatever else comes along with that. And frankly these people have performed the sad act of taking something beautiful and ruining it for themselves and many others.
Do not let them get to you. They don’t understand what you have. They will never have anything so beautiful as the feeling of being lost in your own creation. Of just purely loving something for what it is. To me it is a huge badge of honor that your video made 37cents. It’s a sign that it was a product of pure love. Hold onto that and know you have something so much more precious than they could imagine.
My young kids make up songs in the shower. 10-minute imagined reworking of songs they like but hardly know. Or totally new songs. Our job as adults is to HOLD ONTO THAT beautiful instinct and not let the world stomp it out of us. That is the place of real joy and the real music. You are there.
well said
Wow! Just ran over to their YT channel and rifled through the comments on the latest video... I get how they finally reached out to you. You got good dedicated people here watching your back! Good luck going forward!
this is INSANE. the implications are seriously scary. I've loved your channel and music for YEARS now and I hate to think that someone would rob you of your well deserved $0.37, and the integrity of your amazing creations. You bless so many people.
Ps. I listened to Hanna's song "tendencies" on epidemic sound and it almost sounds to me like YOUR music is used, transposed, and speed up in the background of the piano piece.
Hey Bill, thanks for sharing your experience with song. Us little guys need to stick together for sure. Keep the music flowing because that’s what heals. 🙏
I share your feelings and am with you, Bill. I'm sorry this has happened. I'm looking how I may help hold the offending company accountable.
Thank you for sharing this Bill. Hugs from Northern Cal.
Thanks so much for the kind words and the support!!
These companies won't change until they are facing a class action lawsuit. Surprised that a lawyer hasn't reached out to you yet.
TH-cam is a death trap , we need another platform .
Exactly what I was thinking.
decentralized platforms! like nostr
Everyone says this, but like reddit, it never ends.
Yep we all think it and I'm just a listener no content
A truer thin has never been said
Bill, just stumbled upon this by fluke. I respect the way you have handled this and the way you express yourself in this video. Subscribed.
Oh, for the good old days when the only people ripping off musical artists were the record companies /sarc. Please keep on playing, we need independent musical voices like yours!
This is soul crushing.
I will be telling everyone I know in the industry, and all the students we teach, all about this.
Thank you for making this video! It was well done and beautifully articulated. Thank you for standing up for yourself and for all independent artists.
You have a very calming voice..I love the music in the background music as well
Glad you came out to tell us what happened.
Sorry to hear about this mate. I wish you all the best in getting justice.
I am sitting impressed as hell. A damned earthquake just hit but I am more interested in this story. I commend your having stood up for yourself and your music, and there is honor in your having chosen the pragmatic rather than vindictive response despite your having been right all along. It speaks well toward your relationship with the world. I have heard your music and thought it cool, but now I have subscribed. I am glad that epidemic sound has apologized for their error and I appreciate your thoughtful response to that. Thanks for your excellent sonic vistas and insight into creating ambient atmospheric music!
Greatly appreciate your channels .. thanks for sharing
Thanks for the support!!!!
I have had entire albums stolen from my catalog, i have lost 1000$ there are some evil bastards out there
Exactly why I create music for myself.......it is not worth it these days.
ccb dot gov it is the small claims equivalent of federal court.
Just chiming in to say your music is beautiful, keep on rocking, I’ll keep on listening. We’re in your corner, my dude. 🤘
Thanks, Bill, for the hours and hours of inspiring sounds, along with your gear reviews too. Glad to see they released your music. Your response here is all class, you're a mensch. 👏
I love how YTs dispute system puts the power in the copyright claimant's hands, to which they can just claim something as their own, then just bully people out of their own IP.
What a ride - this is the best explanation I've ever seen on how this 'process' works - It's so sad that this happens - over the years I've seen this same thing go south with other content creators who are truly just enjoying playing and teaching guitar and sharing with the the world their take on how to play a song... then someone comes along and takes the joy away for everyone all for a few bucks... I'm so glad this worked out and got resolved! Keep on doing your thing brother - love watching your videos
When you come for the king, you better not miss!
Just watched a Venus Theory video on the same subject not too long ago where he showed how easy it was to steal music...from himself.
that video was terrifying,
and so is this one.
Our channel is not monetised and we upload hymns. I'm glad if contemporary artist gets the ad revenue if we use one of his or her hymns but what really annoys me is when we upload a hymn and both the hymn tune and the words are in the public domain (with both author and composer being dead for over 100 years) and yet someone still makes a copyright claim against our video. People are still claiming that they wrote a famous tune by Bach or Hayden, etc. and that we performed their tune! Thieves!
My friend from afar, you are a blessing! I love your creations and your vibe! Thanks for being a truth loving North Star for many of us trying to make something out of the gifts we have been given!
From my heart to yours Sir, this is so very personal, I suspect, like me, it's like breathing, it's a lifelong passion that has never waned in over 50 years of creating music right from my very soul! I still love it today, like I did as a child, discovering music creation for the very first time.
So sorry to hear about this Bill. Please keep on playing your music, we all love it.
Epidemic Sound has a VERY LONG history of false copyright claims on TH-cam and other platforms. You are not the first, and you will not be the last to be scammed by these Scam Artists.
Thanks!
Thanks very much for the support!!!!
So maddening when things like this happen.
Totally support you in bringing this out in the open.
Maybe if enough people create a stink then something can be done.
You didn’t right thing.
You also did the right thing by not letting it burn you up and just going on to play some guitar. Excellent choice. 👍🙏
Found your beautiful music and channels because of this video. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I am with you, Orion. Stay strong and keep making music!
MR.CHORDS,
Thank You for all the LOVE YOU SHARE THROUGH YOUR MUSIC! So sorry there are doo doo heads out here. Thanks for all the great ambient music. Keep a lot of us going and I am truly thankful!!!
You Sir! Keep a lot of us going!!!
A few years ago, I found my music on another "band's" site as well as on a couple torrent sites and other download sites. I too am a solo artist. Stories like this make me want to absolutely remove ALL of my music from the internet entirely. It's despicable and I'm sorry this happened to you. But, you're right, keep playing.
I really appreciate you taking the time to bring this to light. You have dealt wisely with the situation and maintained your integrity thought the process. It is shocking to hear companines such as Epidemic sounds can treat artists running a small outfit. I mean its rediculous that this claim would be initiated in the first place. Its concerning. TH-cam needs to to seriously sort out whatever content regulatory tool it uses to check for copyright. It shows up how these automated tools are inconstitant. The fact that it could not tell the difference between piano and ambient guitar. With the amount of content uploaded daily there must be a ton of overlapping similarities in the music that is produced. Chord progressions are reused over and over and there is going to constantly be some sort of overlap in melody etc. The fact that you had to go through the stress and waste your time to refute their claim is unacceptable. It shows how robotic these corporations are and how increasingly robotic the world is becoming.
YT's response should have been this: "Dear Epidemic; we have checked our analytics to find- Orion has never viewed your site, nor the site of artist, Hannah. It is impossible for you to prove that Orion has heard of, or heard music from the catalogue of your artists, and we, therefore, must reject your claim. The notion that, a creator was able to compose 9 hours of original music- but for 30 seconds was stumped, and had to resort to theft to finish the piece- we find absurd." Keep on, Orion!! 🎼🎼
Uhm this is just extra clicks for YT. They are laughing all the way to the bank 😊
Thanks for sharing this 🎶 ❤
I do admire your ability to remain calm, sir.
If I release anything it's going straight on Bandcamp.
At the very least there's less chance of getting ripped off like this...
Yes a distributor like Bandcamp or CD Baby will take care of your concerns. It means having to pay a few bucks up front for each track but it definitely works.
That's what I do, low visibility is a blessing sometimes.
Ugh, I’m so sorry! How unbelievably frustrating. I’m liking your video, commenting, watching all the way through and subscribing to support you. I hope creators can find ways to expose and penalize the scammers for their theft.
Truly sorry you had to experience this.
That said, one thing I have learned over the years is that no matter how much you invest in being a person of integrity and kindness, there will always be a small handful of individuals who either attempt to keep you from success, throw you under large busses, lie to you, use you, and or steal from you.
These are battles which make up the war. Losing a battle or choosing to walk from one does not at all mean losing the war. This is just one battle, one hill of many on the journey to success. It is what you do with what happened on this hill that will add to define your future and its outcomes.
We all have losses on our journey’s. We can use them to robustly grow furthering our inner strength and becoming remarkably resilient.
I choose growing and becoming smarter and stronger.
Meanwhile, epidemic audio can go kick rocks!
You seriously got this brother!
Myles-
Subscribed to your Echoes Of Orion channel. Superb ambient music. I'll recommend your music to others. Keep creating great music!
Great that many of us are leaving comments on Epidemic Sounds latest video! 👏
which actually helps them to make some money by promoting the video..
@@Alkrio f. Maybe a downvote will help.
@@Alkrio better to leave a dislike
The bad guy is TH-cam. Napster100 times over.
Well that’s a bit shit sorry to hear Bill - often play your music while I’m working and you’ve inspired me to play my own improvised ‘soundscapes/soundtracks’ along to a silent video or just staring out the window great fun! Thanks for all your years of creative efforts - not gone unnoticed, ❤ from New Zealand
Thanks for sharing this information with us Bill. You have such a level head and outcome focus, it is a great example for others to follow!
I had a similar thing happen years ago with 3 of my songs. Before this happened I had been signed to a publishing company that did not require me signing over my copyright ownership.I was unhappy with the publishing companies lack of marketing and was able to terminate my contract.I just randomly checked my videos one day and noticed that 3 of my videos were no longer monetized. I checked into it and found that another publishing company claimed to be the copyright holders. I disputed it and it was rejected two different times. While it was being disputed I kept looking at the copyright certificate hanging on the wall. In fact I even gave TH-cam my copyright register number and the publishing company still refuted the claim. I then was able to contact the original publishing company and they denied knowing the publishing company who now claimed ownership of my copyright at first. But once I gave them all of the copyright information they said that they would look into it. After a couple days I noticed that I was able to get my videos monetized. The frustrating thing is how they denied everything I said at first even with me having proof of ownership. So I can relate to what your experiencing. Good luck and I hope your able to get your music back.
With Felons and billionaires in the White House, this will become a commonplace business practice.
Love your stuff. Its made be re-explore my guitar playing/approach to music composition and rediscover my passion for it and encourages me to think more about the emotion and feeling in sound over a catchy phrase or chord passage (dopamine focused music).
let's everyone send TH-cam a message. A movement should be created.
Thanks
And thank you so very much for the support!!
If only there were a nirvana where the small channel, human soul, passion and integrity could grow, protected from the MACHINE.
You are an incredible person and i support you 100💯 percent!
Remember a world where people had enough self respect not to ever even think of stealing someone else's work, a world in which people believed in fair play? That was long ago I fear.
Thats because it took actual talent and skill... now anyone with a computer and a cheap AI can steal from you.
Lack of Talent and skill is not synonymous with unethical behavior but you know what is? …… capitalism.
@@weschilton Actually it was much easier to steal a song in the 1950's.
Honest words from you. Music is always a suitable path to get out of these dark places. I've subscribed to your channel and I appreciate the time you took to share your feelings. Best wishes, Bill!
It's about time TH-cam grew some balls and stopped allowing this. They know this is a scam and refuse to act.
They’re more scared of litigation from big music owners. Would rather throw content creators under the bus as a policy- they’re no threat.
Hello ? It's google. The worst of the worst. They are so far up everyones ass that half of what you think is AI generated.
You know something I feel your pain - and I've noticed some of my stuff being used without my consent - so I setup a business and licensed my music to it. I hope that helps!
Love your work. Hate the crooked bizness side of music and YT. Theives and Crooks. Keep playing, don't stop!!
Sir, that might be just the tip of the iceberg.The samething happend to me and I discovered who had stolen my music for years, but only now the youtube algorithm is capable to detect it, because usually they were so "smart" to pitch my originals 1-2 semitones down and/or change the tempo....
Sorry to hear the troubles you went through. The fact that TH-cam gives more weight to claims rather than the creator's dispute is outrageous. Shysters stealing music on TH-cam is growing by the day. TH-cam really needs to change policy! Perhaps creatives can coordinate a blackout by un-listing their content and changing their banners to black for one day? Let's see how quickly something happens.
Man so sorry to hear about this ! You’re such an inspiration. Keep moving forward !!
A Class Action lawsuit against YT and their implementation of ContentID and copyright protection is looooooong overdue.
yeah I have had issues with streaming platforms like YT and Soundcloud for years. My music isnt popular, but I have released a LOT of music on vinyl and CD, including some compilations. Those compilations get added to streaming services by people who only had license to release it on that hard media. I go to upload my original work, and I GET copyright struck when I am the copyright holder of the original music. Its such a TERRIBLE process. Ive had so many people make money off my music. I just gave up trying to take it down, especially on soundcloud.
Good luck😂
@ Hey, you miss every swing you don’t take. Maybe there’s a better option than accepting the status quo. A Class Action lawsuit is likely the only option that might bring about change in this situation.
Heck, even the threat of one might be enough to get YT to look at improving things. You don’t need to be as rich as YT/Alphabet to launch a lawsuit. The potential penalty just needs to be more expensive than the cost of fixing the problem. Litigant creators could crowdsource contributions from their audiences. Throw in some direct donations from a few of the wealthier YT creators, and a Class Action suit could amass a very sizeable legal war chest.
I listen to soothing music to help me sleep on a night, I’m going to go to your other channel and listen to it regularly, it won’t add up to much revenue but every little helps. And I know it’s not about the money, but, small creators need to stand together.
Don't let them win!
Just earned a subscriber and always play music while I sleep for the tinnitus. Musician and composer as well. Professionally I am grateful for your context in the industry and the details of this. Awful stuff. Good to get all the eyes on it. I dig the vibes. Keep on chooglin’!
The music industry is gaming copyright to shutdown artists in the way they used to sign artists but never press a record, but kept them in an exclusive deal. By making specious claims against musicians like us, they don't have to include an advance with the contract, and we have to amass legal costs to fight these cooyright claims and generally don't make enough to do that, so we roll over and walk away.
Using copyright killed one of the members of Men at Work in the suit against Land Downunder. The flute lick was supposed to sound like an Australian folk song Kookaburra. Trouble is, the flute hook in Downunder is a different mode to the melody of Kookaburra, which is brighter, more major to Downunder's minor tones. Any musician can tell there's a difference, but the judge made the artists "cough up" millions. And the flutist from Men at Work committed suicide.
Venture capital entered the music business via Spotify, TH-cam and Apple, and they're literally as well as figuratively killing us to own all culture and deny us our own art as small independents. This era is a dark ages for the arts.
Hmmm, the notes in question were identical in that case - the lead in wasn’t but the flute part that matched the words “kookaburra sits in the old gum tree” were precisely the same sequence of note intervals
I feel your pain esp when you are the creator of your own original content and someone steals that content from you
Coffeezilla lives going after companies like this, seriously give him a shout
As a composer/musician of many years this infuriates me, I understand how this must make you feel. As you say go and play and heal, now that the case has been resolved , you will I'm sure recover your sanity and find mental peace again. Good luck.
Bill - your video tag scared me, glad to hear that it wasn't as dire. You did the right thing with your decision. We stand by you. Maybe you should file a copyright claim against them? If your music sounds like theirs, it goes both ways, theirs sounds like yours. I know you are not a vengeful person, I'm not either, but it just stinks to go through this.
Thx Bill - yup, hard for indie musicians. I just fired up my new ambient channel & hoping to not have such issues- thank u for sharing & your music is awesome. You’re an OG in the ambient realm!
Congress should implement mandatory minimum reimbursements for companies making negligent claims. They are cashing in on other peoples IP knowing they won’t risk their channel over 37 cents. If they still claim it after being notified, when proved wrong should equal a $1,000 min fine payable to person dragged into the claim(not paid to gov/youtube). It won’t stop until bad actors have a legitimate punishment.
ccb dot gov is a small claims process up to $30,000
So sorry you had to go through that. Hold your head up that you still have your integrity intact.
I avoid the commercial world like the plague. I keep my original compositions for friends and family and my own pleasure.
Sorry you’re going through this. Stay strong. You’re 🗣Awesomeness!!!
What an existential quagmire. But good response; carry on and play regardless.
About 3 years ago I made a video of a friend of mine. A very original piece of music... it bounced. I hardly got a word in edge wise.
The world is full of scammers. It’s a shame TH-cam doesn’t analyze it any better than they do, with all their tech and $2.1 trillion market cap.
The bad guy is TH-cam. Napster100 times over.
Bro, sorry to hear what you went through! the whole music industry is unreal. I started playing in 59 and just had to back away so i could make a living and save myself. So good luck with all of this.
It's little things like this that really piss me off about humans. Outrageous that this happens to good people with good intent.
They're not Human. They're corporate demons hungry for wealth at any cost.
Wow! Not sure why this dropped in my feed and I'm mixed about how I feel about that. On one hand I'm thrilled to have discovered you, and the other I am disappointed to learn that the internet is reaching new lows and is quickly becoming a cesspool worse than I imagined. For now I will focus on the former and visit your site.
Venus Theory and WesTheTech offer much more insight into this broken system that plagues content creators of all kinds.
Fight the good fight!
Hey Bill. You are doing great things. I have followed up with those thieves on their site and TH-cam channel. Don’t let this discourage you. Keep going!
I'd be absolutely livid and on the phone with lawyers and TH-cam every day.
You must be very rich
The little guy will never win against the Corporate Vampires.
No you wouldn't. Just TRY contacting TH-cam. They MIGHT reply if you have 10 million subscribers. Yeah, I'm serious.
Rock on, brother!
Thanks for sharing, Bill! What a shitty situation... Sorry it happened to you. I'm sure you have to go on telling the truth about the Epidemic Sound here, on FB and other resources tagging this massive company - it's widely known in videography world.
TH-cam recommended I watch this video. I guess they are warning me.
I'm sorry this happened. Definitely feeling uneasy now. I was so disheartened when I thought a real person bought my sync music only to find out it was AI scrapers (at least they paid? 😢). I had a strong feeling of loss and told my friends and family about it.
My brother said watching Suno write a perfect song in a split second made him realize he can't make money from music creation, and he said that has freed him up creatively.
I want to be like you both and not hold hard feelings for these issues.
Reported spam their last video. We are with you.
I love the name echos of Orion