PHYSICAL MEDIA collecting… or hoarding ? Struggles with collecting Blu Ray & 4k
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- We’re all movie fans… right ?
Well, over many years of collecting I’ve started to worry that I’ve just been hoarding. My collection is over running and I have a few thoughts about what’s caused this (maybe for more than myself) and what I’m thinking about doing about it.
Do you collect physical media ? Have you got your collection under control or is it also taking over your lives ?
Drop a comment below, let’s discuss.
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I think that good collecting is having items that are special and meaningful to you, which necessarily means a smallish number. Otherwise in the age of the internet and endless "limited editions" you end up with massive collections of things you don't care about, which is very similar to hoarding. It's not a good feeling because in the latter case the collection owns you.
100% that’s how I was starting to feel. I’ve been clearing out some items. Many are bagged and ready to move on… having them out of the way certainly feels refreshing and made the living space a much more pleasant environment. Now to push through and limit down a little more.
I need to watch more Marie Kondo !
@@lonewolf8667 not sure I’ve quite got myself in a true declutter state of mind. Think it might be a slow step by step process to get to that good place.
I wouldn’t say I’m burnt out and quitting with collecting… just considering what I’m collecting and making adjustments to what I keep hold of. I do see a lot of collectors that drop into the ‘all of nothing’ kind of mindset. Rough to see when they’ve done all they can to try and put together a collection and then just stop and clear it all.
Man, all them concerts must have been costly too. competitive fan base sure can stir up enough hype that gets you to that FOMO mindset.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Start digging holes; hid them John Wick style.
@@luisrizo8813 time capsule collections. 😂
This. When collecting, you have to establish boundaries and priorities. There wouldn't be any space left in my apartment if I purchased every DVD title I desired. A good rule to live by is "can it fit in moving boxes?" I have two large empty boxes and one medium box, and I took all of my DVDs and placed them in the boxes to check if they fit. They fit in with plenty of space. If you have more than you can fit, get rid of some of it.
Here's what I've learned in accumulating about 3,000 titles:
1. Define your collection in terms of specific genres or actors. There are lots of great movies in every genre, but your collection is just going to be a tiny fraction of what's out there.
2. Getting rid of "one-time watches" or movies you didn't like is OK, and that process will make your collection better.
3. If possible, keep things you haven't seen separate from what you have seen. This gives you a clear indication of the amount of hours you need to devote to getting all the movies watched. This will also influence your decision in buying more things, or at least focus any buying toward what you specifically collect.
4. Shelf space is always limiting, but I've recently taken steps to get some of that space back. I've made two rounds already of purchasing batches of regular dvd cases (14mm) that hold 6 discs (individual tray style). These now hold a lot of the "franchise" movies (mission impossible, terminator, shrek, halloween, etc) all in one case. Even doing this for "sequel" movies helps, too. Once you get over putting the original paperwork into a file storage, you'll be fine. I now have 2 large bags of empty dvd cases, and I seriously wonder how the heck they existed in the first place.
Thanks for sharing your collection and hope this helps for the conversation!
All good advice. Number 2 in particular is where I need to focus in. Those movies that were only really one time watches… amazed at some titles that I’ve kept hold of.
I do have a chunk of my collection designated to particular directors, fell into a trap with that and have been filling in the blanks for each director with their movies that I’m not really a fan of (despite being a fan of the director).
Marvel and superhero movies have a section but I’ve slowed off keeping up with them after a few, erm, disappointments recently.
Not sure I need to keep Jonah Hex or Fantastic 4 in that section.
Something I always ponder is how to organise the titles. Generally I’ve gone with genre and a different area which houses the director collections.
For a long time my collection was about 500 titles, and the first "section" I completed was all the Clint Eastwood movies, which is really nice to see and browse all in one place. I tend to focus on organizing by favorite actor, and the highlights are people like steve martin, robin williams, jack nicholson, stallone, and nicolas cage. I seem to get a good mix of comedy-drama-action, etc, without having to buy everything that's out there.
In the pandemic years I collected all of the academy award winning best pictures (1927 up to Parasite, so far) and now I'm thinking it would be fun to collect all of the best picture winners for foreign language films.
I recently finished watching my Alfred Hitchcock collection (51 movies!), and I'm about halfway through my Elvis movie collection (that was tough to research because there's so many box sets and multi-movie sets in trying to find the lowest cost without buying 3 copies of the same movie).
Main genre areas are sci-fi, The 1980s, music-concerts-bands, a relatively small TV show section including some BBC titles, a VHS collection (250?) for more obscure and older titles not commonly available [the artwork is so much better], and a big section that I can only call the "American Pie type screwball comedy section."
I'm strategizing building a few more shelves so I can finally actually see all of the collection, and I'm looking forward to more organizing. But I'm really not predicting any kind of exponential increase in the coming years, I think the next few will get devoted to watching and enjoying.@@PhillwithadoubleL
Wow, sounds concise and organised. You sound a man with a plan for your collection.
I have swayed towards director sections over specific actors. I think it’s probably the usual suspects for directors but I’m really happy with that kinda section that I have running.
For the past year, I've been buying ALOT of DVDs, and Blu Rays and honestly, the original reason was just to find the movies I liked and get them in whatever format I could find...
Well, as time went on, I started to not only buy the DVD or Blu Ray of movies, but I would buy both. Even, duplicates.
And, then I started picking up VHS and some laserdisc and I began buying OOP/Rare titles on Blu Ray.
And so I started buying more DVD movies and Blu Rays for the sake of just, collecting and preserving, physical media, due to fears of digital causing its extinction.
For me, I also think there could be a mental/depression thing going on...
Spending time and extra money on collecting (or hoarding?) physical media has kinda taken over my life, since I honestly, don't have much going on, or I choose to have the "collecting" the physical media lifestyle that I do.
I don't HAVE to collect physical media, but I choose to and it does make me happy, to think I'm helping to preserve physical media and movies.
Preserving has turned into my main goal with this, I guess, but at the same time, it does feel like it has gone to a form of hoarding, because now I'm getting stuff that I don't really like or even have never seen, before...but again, there's that mentality, of thinking I'm helping to preserve.
And honestly, there's a form of excitement, when you walk into a thrift store or used book/movie store and you find movies that you don't normally see at a department store. And, it's cheaper!
So, I'm sure collecting physical media is different for everyone. We all have our reasons and motivations, and maybe, there's some that just don't realize it or can't really explain, why.
If you think about it, everything you buy and bring to your home could be considered a form of "hoarding". We just may use things more often, than others.
But, yes, there is that fear I have that digital/streaming is going to cause physical media to eventually, become extinct.
And whether I'm right about that or not, it just gives me something to do and focus my mind on.
Again, it could be a mental/depression thing going on, but it keeps me sane, if that makes any sense.
100% makes sense.
And if it’s something that brings you joy and helps if you’re struggling with things like mental issues then there’s absolutely no reason to need to change how you use & view physical media.
I get the worry about wanting to preserve too.
My main reason for clearing through things is to clear my space and give me clarity of mind. For others, it’s the collecting and preserving of titles that bring them the comfort and joy.
Everyone has their own unique thoughts and ways that they want to enjoy their passion. And I think that’s awesome 👏🏼
If we were all the same then there would be no discussion !
Sounds like your collecting is a distraction from your mental health issues. I think you should focus on those issues and stop distracting yourself with the collecting or any other hobby. Instead of keeping you sane, as you said, hobbies can become a crutch, and sometimes even a road block to solving those mental health issues.
Yes, agree. Mental health issues were the cause in creating the habit I think. But, it was a habit that stuck.
Issues that stemmed from my reality, movies were my escape… my safe place. I’m in a completely different space now and have come to terms with my issues and actually use them to my advantage now. It just leaves a mass collection of ‘things’.
I picked up a lot of meh VHS and DVDs when video stores collapsed. Some of it I kept. Some I let go. I just wanted the chance, cheap, to check it out.
I really like that shine a light on the negativity of collecting. It's all sunshine and rainbows with other you tubers. I honestly think my uncles marriage broke down because of his collecting and in the end when everything fell apart he just got rid of i t all
Thanks.
I think there’s a lot of pressure created for people with the various posts across social media and TH-cam. A lot of looks at a ‘perfect’ representation of something.
I like to discuss and consider all aspects and fully understand that certain things come at a cost, despite what’s reflected back at us on our screens.
I agree that’s it’s something that can cause rifts in a relationship. Not just for collecting movies. Collecting whatever it may be… the collecting habit starts to share a lot of similarities with the addiction behaviour you see with gambling / alcohol or even binge eating. It sounds kinda ridiculous comparing collection media to those sorts of addictions but when you break it down. You can see those types of behaviours.
I’ll go for some honesty over the sunshine and rainbows !
Randomly got recommended this vid and I have to say it genuinely got me thinking about my own practices. Thanks for posting honestly and very concise on the realities of what collecting means.
Thank you for taking the time to give the video a look. It’s a subject I’ve been battling with for a long while.
Glad I decided to post on it. It’s kinda nice finding out that you’re not alone.
Remember that one way to reduce "collecting/hoarding" physical media is via your computer and your friendly neighbor public library. Yes, the same one that you've been funding all along from your rent or homeowner property taxes, specifically from your school taxes. Most public libraries of any size have a pretty extensive DVD/BD collection. Why not rip them to MKV or ISO files? You can store some of them on a NAS and some on a your cloud account. Okay, so you won't have the original BD/DVD case artwork, but that's a small price to pay for all of the shelf space you'll be saving. And if your local public library doesn't have title you want many contiguous counties have a regional mutual sharing program, where via an online database members of any such county library can "interloan" any media, and which will be delivered to your library. I've done this for years. Enjoy!
I’ve considered ripping my collection to a hard drive previously. Still a consideration but I’m finding that iTunes offers up an easily accessible option too… although obviously more expensive than using a library.
I’ve just been up into my attic and uncovered a couple of boxes of DVDs. Forgotten about for years so I question the importance of needing to keep so many when they haven’t been given a second though for so long.
Ha!! Yes, I still have Laserdiscs!! But, I gave a local shop that sales used records, tapes, CDs, DVDs, VHSs and yes, Laserdiscs, three boxes of LDs and only kept the ones that never made it to DVD/Blu-Ray. I have a good size house, even by American standards, but my media collection had flooded my entire home. For the last two-three months, I’ve been going through my collections and trading off the stuff I no longer need or wanted. Now, I’m in the process further downsize my CD/DVD/Blu-Ray collections by going to “sleeve up” between 2500 to 3000 of all types of discs and afterwards, place them into stackable plastic boxes/cases and store all those 2500 to 3000 discs into one closet. In the end, I am hoping to have no more than 400 DVDs, 400 Blu-Rays and 400 CDs on open sleeves in both my TV room and my Music room. Afterwards, start the purging of my Laserdiscs, which I still have two functions players, and my VHS tapes, which I still have three functioning players, to the bear minimum of stuff that never made it DVD/BR. Afterwards, work on my LP collection…. I’m hoping to be done with everything by this coming July/August. Like you, I want my collection, on display, to reflect my interests within each media. I agree 100% with you that your collections can become overwhelming/stressful and basically become more of a hoarding event than a collection.
All the ‘stuff’ takes some working through doesn’t it !
I’ve managed to part with a portion of the collection. Still working through. Sleevjng some things, clearing out others. Each little step I make I feel a weight lifted. Which is strange considering how ‘valuable’ to me I thought these items were.
Good luck with your own journey. Hope the process is giving you as much clarity
I only collect what i love. I watch a movie on a digital streaming platform, if i hate it, or just simply am not interested in revisiting, i dont buy it. If i like a movie, i buy it and keep it in my collection, a month of two later (or longer) i rewatch it, if i find myself not liking it anymore, i sell it. This keeps my collection tight, so that i dont become overwhelmed with things i will never watch again.
Great way to do it.
I think losing the video rental stores certainly fed my buying & hoarding. I need to move back into the renting first mindset and use the digital rentals more than I am.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Awhile back I used the netflix DVD mail service, but when that stopped I started using Amazon prime video to rent movies and each rental is around $2-$4.
So well articulated. Can I Thumbs Up this multiple times!
I need to clean out my videogame collection in a similar fashion…
Thank you 🙏🏼
Luckily I haven’t gone the same way with video games too. I was close to it at one point. But… I still have my N64 and a number of games that I’m finding it difficult to part with, even though it’s been unused and in a box for a number of years. 🤷🏼♂️
I found that collecting of any type of merchandise can be considered on the verge of hoarding. And fortunately or unfortunately (depending on how you look at it) I'm a collector. As a child I started with stamps, then moved to coins, then books & now dvds/blue rays.
Some would say that my dvd/blue ray collection is to large & ridiculous in this age of streaming. But I have a love/hate relationship with it. I love that when the internet goes down (I live in Florida, USA) & due to storms as well as other unknown reasons our internet service goes down (or runs at a snails pace) frequently. So I turn to my collection for something to watch & I'm never disappointed. Then on the hand I hate that my collection takes up so much room (half of my living room). And when I've moved in the past most of the boxes I hauled around were filled with movies.
I've been collecting DVDs/blue ray disks since the mid to late 90's. And while I haven't stopped I am more picky about what I purchase to add to my collection now. I hate that movies frequently disappear from streaming services so any movies put out by say Netflix or Prime for example, that I really enjoy I purchase a digital copy of to insure that I'm able to watch again. And any titles from the past that I love & have watched (or want to watch) over & over again I make sure that I have a physical copy of. Since my two favorite genres are horror & comedy, I have a lot of options, lol
That’s my issue at the moment. The space that they take up. I’ve tried to clear the living spaces of that physical media. I’ve got most of the collection through my office space but, it still over flows and at times looks cluttered.
I love I have a physical collection but… I just get the feeling that what I have is too much. I don’t need as many options as I have.
I’m trying to curate down to only movies I love but, it’s difficult letting go (which makes me feel more like a hoarder with the unwillingness to part with anything).
It’s an ongoing battle but, I’m slowly getting those numbers down.
I’m certainly shaking the need to buy everything as it comes out. It’s just the backlog.
Self-aware, honest, mature, objectionable...good on ya
Thank you.
And thank you for your comment. 🙏🏼
There's definitely a door you walk through when collecting becomes hoarding. I think it's when the ability to pick up a last generations media for a very low price happens. I did it with records, now I'm doing it with CDs, dvd and blu ray. I've bought whole collections for next to nothing.. Sometimes absolutely nothing! Same goes for any collection. There becomes a point where that wade whimsie, or book or whatever becomes this avalanche of stuff that is actually strangling the pleasure of your particular collection. Great video, thanks for sharing.
I do weird things now.
I think I’ll sell some older DVDs or Blu ray that I no longer really want. But then I see the value what I’d get back for trade in or from eBay and I suddenly think. Well, I might as well keep hold of it just incase I may use them again.
It goes from wanting to let them go to suddenly storing for no real reason. I still struggle now. I’m getting better but there a lot I just need to get gone before I do venture further down that hoarder mentality.
I don’t think it’s helping that high profile directors have suddenly started naming collectors as custodians for preserving film history. I think it kinda re-enforces that need to keep things we don’t really need or want just for the sake of preservation. Even though we might not really want that specific title anymore.
I’m in the same place.
I just can’t bring myself to get rid of anything.
No point selling as no worth.
Charity shops refusing to take.
And I can’t bring myself to put them in a bin.
Most of my unwanted ones are Poundland pickups
YES !!! Exactly my problem too. I’ve taken a bunch from the shelf that have been removed from the collection but for the worth. I’m resistant in moving them on properly.
So many times I’ve got movies on my shelf that just don’t get used and very often now, they’re streaming anyway and rather than pulling it from the shelf. This lazy boy will just hit the stream button.
I do feel better that titles have been removed from the collection and I’m getting space back but… they’re still sat boxed in the house.
I need to let go. I’ve not been bothered in the slightest that they’re no longer on the shelves so why keep ?! Gah.
Collecting curse.
@PhillwithadoubleL Have you considered donating them to a library? The movies will stay in your local community and give someone else the feeling of a "blockbuster night."
@@RetroGamingLoser yes, someone else had mentioned the library. I think that’s a great idea.
The big sort through is happening and I’m going to be reaching out to see if they will take the donations.
I’ve also thought about the hospital for the kids movies after one of mine were in the hospital and we enjoyed a movie or two that they had during his stay.
I realized that main difference between physical media and streaming or hard drive storage was mostly paper and plastic taking up space. So I ripped all my discs onto hard drives and got rid of them, if I like a DVD or Blu-ray I will still buy it, watch it , rip the disc with all it's extras, and then sell it on. The removal of clutter and the extra space, not worrying about scratches, disc rot, having a spare player, etc has made a big difference to my enjoyment of movies.
I agree that the removal of a number of titles from the shelves has helped with the enjoyment. It’s become more about enjoying the movies than trying to keep up a collection and having everything.
It’s nice to have that physical library of the things I care about but if I’m not that bothered. Then streaming digitally is a worthy option for me.
I have so many that haven’t been touched for years and likely won’t be used again so it seems pointless keeping them, but for some reason at times, I do find it difficult moving them on. Although when a chunk does go, I feel better for it 🤷🏼♂️
Except that's movie piracy and punishable by imprisonment.
I am currently residing at an open prison due to good behaviour and my cell has a LCD TV. The USB slot is great for watching my collection. @@jublywubly
I became a hoarder for retro games at one point in the past, so I swore to myself to not go there again with my new UHD & Blu-Ray collecting. I just got back into physical movies for the first time in 10 years after recently getting a UHD Blu-Ray player. I'm making it a point to only get movies I LOVE, not just KINDA LIKED. If I don't see myself rewatching it, then I pass. Even if it's only $2. So far I've been surprisingly good with the self control 🤞🏻😁
That’s some good self control.
I watch quite a few videos for retro game collections. There are some insane amounts that you can get sucked into collecting. With the retro gaming it’s not just the space for the collection but the varying consoles and the crt TVs which also hog the real estate of your space. I’ve only kept hold of my N64, but… I don’t go down the path of actively collecting for it now as when I’ve dropped back to play them for that nostalgia, 5 mins and I already want to hop back to God of War or Red Dead, they just don’t live up to my memories of them. (Although I know they still do for many other folks)
I think having only things you love in your collection is the right thing to try and stick to. Let’s face it, a good majority are easily accessible streaming or cheap enough to pick up if that mood to watch something you don’t have strikes.
I love old movies, and I love collecting the dvds! Thrifting for DVDs is a super fun casual/inexpensive hobby. I only buy DVDs of movies that i know I want to watch, so there's no real "collection spiral" of getting stuff I don't want. I don't go to collection groups/forums. I really only thrift them for a few bucks. I'm not into blueray. I like to watch movies on old CRT tvs anyways.
Full honesty, I also got over packaging. To me, the movie is what I want. The experience of watching it on my CRT. I don't give a hoot about packaging. I've thrown all my boxes away. Even my box set boxes. Everything is stored in huge binders, and take up only a paltry amount of space in comparison to if I kept them in boxes.
I know packaging and the ability to "display" the collection means a lot to some folks, but I've just gotten over that hurdle and now it's a lot more manageable now.
That’s what I miss. My collecting habits have been that bad that if I go to a thrift store. Most of the things they have… I already own. I miss that fun aspect of pawn shops / swap meets etc.
I love that you’re still using CRT. My dad used to fix them for folks in our kitchen. I have a strong nostalgia kick from them but for me. Them just take up too much space in my living area. One thing though, they’re likely to better survive kids throwing toys or sticky fingers. A constant worry with the newer flat screen sets.
3:06 There's NO such thing as "bragging rights".. 99.9% of the other people in this world couldn't CARE LESS about what you do, what you own, what you watch etc
Understanding this is the first step.
And that’s more and more what I realise.
I think it’s a mindset that some (including myself) slip into. Starting to understand that more and more… which in turn is affecting the way and what I collect.
I now no longer feel precious about having to have ALL limited edition “for the collection” - there’s only me that cares about what I have really so why try and build a collection for anyone but myself… and to show off on social media ?!
Gotta have the right friends to get to bragging and sharing media.
I had a similar predicament with video games, I went through and got rid of dupes from for multiple systems, sold stuff I would never play or play again. Felt great to whittle down to a collection that is a truer reflection of my tastes. Movie collection has been growing to encompass my favorite titles.
It is feeling nice to get the numbers down and have that living space a little clearer. I’ve not missed any that I’ve got rid of… yet. I’m sure there will be a day when maybe the odd title pops in mind but for the majority of titles… they’re easy to pick up again or look at digital alternatives for another quick look.
Wow. The best video on the channel. I totally agree with everything. Fear of missing out is what used to drive me but now it's all about my favourite movies and 1 edition of each (with very few exceptions) in the best possible transfer. The movies not only must represent me and my taste but I also have to feel that I will want to watch them again. It all came after years of experience though and lots of money wasted on DVDs and BDs that are still sealed and packed away. I still consider myself a collector (thankfully never a hoarder) but more importantly I'm a fan.
Yes 🙌🏼. Being a fan is my primary reason for collecting too. I just don’t need to prove how much of a fan I am by keeping absolutely everything.
I’m finding it difficult to get things gone and out of the door. Have a fair number of movies boxed and out of the way, I’ve not missed them being to hand at all. Yet, still finding it difficult to get rid.
So many are being constantly replaced with newer better editions too, I’ve also wasted lots of money upgrading and changing formats.
It’s a battle.
Have managed to keep that FOMO to a minimum now. There are the odd things that get me still but nowhere near the level it was at.
I've always tried to curate my collection so I'll never have everything but everything I have reflects me. Movies and TV I enjoyed. Comic book movies. Biker films. Interactive DVD/Visual Novels. I'm still running out of room.
That’s the where I wanna get to… although without the running out of room bit.
Too many titles I just don’t really care about at the moment. Curation is the way.
@@PhillwithadoubleL Curation is important. It can also be fun.
Have big collection of movies and rock cds running out of space and buying things twice because I forgot I had already bought it in the past. With music box sets and books about movies and musicians. Spend time reaching and buy the things and not enough time looking and listening to them. Unless you have a lot of space you will have to get rid of stuff eventually.
Yup, personally, I’m running out of space. Mainly because of my refusal to let any of my collection run into too many rooms in the house.
I’m taking the collection down to a more reasonable level for the space I want to use. Also looking at other options in terms of storage and even useage. Digital options are sometimes use if the movie isn’t ‘that’ important to me. Going for a quality over quantity.
I started dating my girlfriend who is blind about 2 years ago and it halted my collecting down to almost nothing. The only way she is able to enjoy a movie is if it has a well done audio description track on it and that's few and far between for alot of titles that aren't brand new. So now I really only get stuff if it's super cheap and worth it to even own.
@@deckard8651 out of interest… do the digital movies through streaming or purchasing offer up better options for audio descriptions or is it pretty much the same as the physical disc ?
@@PhillwithadoubleL Most things through apple TV plus have audio description. Other services and physical discs are about 50/50 as far as I've seen.
I always joke the difference between collecting and hoarding is the amount of space you have 😂
That’s a pretty solid way of looking at it 😂
Collecting is just as much about getting rid of stuff as it is about getting stuff. In recent years I have been going through that same challenge. There is a whole science behind reducing a collection and upping the quality and relevance of that collection. It can be just as fulfilling as finding new stuff.
100% finding the same thing.
I want to go to my shelves and be able to pick any movie that would be a rewatch instead of looking and thinking ‘I don’t wanna watch that again’ - if I don’t think I’ll want to watch again then it seem pointless to keep hold of them for the sake of numbers or having a large collection.
It feels refreshing as I clear space.
Hi Phill. I just watched another TH-camr discuss this and your video then popped up. These discussion videos are popular as I think all physical media collectors can relate in some way. I have a sizeable laserdisc and dvd collection and continue to add because of the variety of movies I’m able to find thrifting (I show haul videos etc). But yes, space now is a concern as all the shelves are filled. I have purchased a quantity of sleeves so as to get rid of the dvd cases, and that will save space but I know that saving space is not the solution as you can quickly fill it again. Ultimately it has to be making a decision to be ruthless with downsizing and/or stopping or significantly reducing collecting. Neither of which sound great but we will all have to do it at some point. All the best
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment. I like the discussion around this sort of thing !
I’ve managed to strip down my laserdisc collection. It’s now at about 50 titles I think.
I think my main concern I’m more than me collecting is what I’m collecting (or keeping). Really, for my personal collection I want to be keeping it down to just titles that I enjoy. At the moment the collection got to a place where I seemed to be keeping hold of titles for the sake of having them rather than me actually wanting to use them again in the future. I still want a collection. I just want to limit it and just have the films that I enjoy rather than it being everything and anything.
I do love seeing the big collections and seeing that some have a good well organised space for them. Deciding what you want from a collection is the biggest part and I think I got carried away with what I was doing. Felt more like a hoarder because a large % of my collection had very little meaning to me.
I just found your channel and watched your video. I think what you said reflects the views of many of us older "collectors/Hoarders". I started collecting in the VHS days, then shifted to DVD's and then Blus and even some 4K's even though I don't have a player, as they come with the Blus. I still buy DVD's now as well. During COVID, I started going through my crap and realized how many unopened VHS tapes I had and didn't need anymore. I started selling many online and / or giving them away, keeping on significant ones. I have a hard time getting rid of DVD's, so my compromise was to buy albums that hold 250 and sought them out by genre, alphabetically in the albums and throw away the cases. I still have many to go through and many I know I won't put in albums, as they are "special". Also, like you, I don't feel compelled to buy right away and wait for sales to happen or many times just wait for streaming and if I watch it and like it, may buy it on sale or may not care anymore. I do like to rebuy the movies I love, but again when it is a significant upgrade, but I can wait, as I already own them. Making a shift in the buying habits has really changed me and now I'm gaining much more space. I do buy a ton of cheap used DVD's for a buck each, and almost automatically put them in a pile for the album collection. I do like to own any movie I enjoy or have enjoyed as there have been times I wanted to watch something, but it isn't available on one of the 5+ services I subscribe to and that is one of the main reasons. Also, I've had cable outages, etc. and can't watch anything, but my physical media, so I do cherish the collection, but managing it is part of admitting you have a "problem". :)
I managed to clear out my VHS when dvd arrived but still kept hold of a load of laserdiscs.
Think COVID kinda woke me up to a lot of it too. Realised how out of hand the collection got. I’ve been slow to clear things out but as some of the stuff leaves. I’ve found I don’t actually miss it.
My particular issue in the past has been keeping hold of movies I didn’t even enjoy… and I can’t give you a good reason why I used to do that beyond it being ‘for the collection’
@@PhillwithadoubleL I think a lot of us have that same type of feeling! "for the collection"
I have a large collection of music and movies. I try not to buy things I know I wont watch/listen to "often". However I have gotten to a point where there isn't enough time left in my life to watch or listen to all my media. So you got to thin the heard and let some stuff go. When it comes to music and movies you should only worry about limited editions and box sets for stuff you really love. Example I like Pink Floyd, I have a a few of their box sets and enjoy them, however other bands release similar box sets and I want them. But then I think is it worth the money and is it really important to me. If no, then let it go.
100% agree. I’ve pulled back the limited edition and for ‘some’ titles just been getting or waiting for a standard release.
But definitely need to thin the heard and concentrate on the things I love.
If they’re a standard kinda release like most recent releases then I will generally wait it out now and often, when the hype has died down, there’s no longer that rush or the strong urge and I’m able to just wait for streaming or pick up on the cheap.
I certainly need to move on any titles I watch have no strong connection with. In the past they’ve just been filed on the shelf… which is why o now have this issue !
Coincidentally started doing this 3 days ago and then this video pops up on my feed...
Someone’s watching you 👀
Collector curse I think, I’m sure we all go too far before we kinda wake up to ourselves.
I’ve heard and actually experienced on a few movies that if you have a decent system, disc is better than streaming
It’s all about the system. If you have the right set up then physical wins (at the moment). If you’re just running a standard kinda set up then I think you’re at times hard pressed to see a difference between digital and physical.
Go through your whole collection one by one.
The ones you haven't looked at for over a year or didn't even remember owning can all go.
Started working my way through things. Even old boxed movies have been taken out of storage in the attic ready to be moved on.
Not going to say it’s an easy process because there’s still a pull to keep hold of things but as they get moved on. I feel better about it.
@@PhillwithadoubleL As soon as you start putting stuff in storage you may as well sell it. I had the same and at some point you don't even remember having it. So what's the point then? Having this much stuff will start to feel like a burden. Get rid of it and only keep the stuff that's very dear to you. It feels so much better.
@@Ni5ei absolutely on that path now.
As I’ve been doing these videos I’ve been dragging things out of storage and earmarking to get donated / go to CEX or eBay.
Making the videos has been making me think through what I’ve been doing. My space is currently packed out with stuff to continue scanning to get out of the way.
Must admit. As things are moving it’s feeling quite refreshing.
And yes, there have been titles I thought I’d long since got rid of. They should have been gone years ago.
If collecting physical media brings you happiness, then have at it, good on you. If you like looking at the cases and their contents or the DVD extras and commentary, then have at it, good on you. For me neither one of these things is enough of an interest to me to hold physical media. As you correctly pointed out, you need a room or more to hold some larger collections, there is dusting, inventorying, loaned out media that is not returned, losing your collection due to fire, flood or other disaster, moving is a bitch, etc. Streaming also has it's down side, buffering, throttling, reduced quality, content being randomly removed, even if you purchased a license for it. No, for me storing media on hard drives in a media server is it. Once I have it, it is mine, can not be altered or deleted. When I am comfy in my bed I can switch between movies, TV series, music, games on console emulators, TH-cam, etc. without getting out of my bed. I have over 6,500 movies, over 1,600 TV series on my media server. I back it up onto 2.5" 5TB portable hard drives where I can literally hold my entire collection in the palm of my hands. I am in the process of purchasing 4TB NVME drives in enclosures to backup my collection. Once complete, I will be able to hold my entire collection in one hand. I could walk around with my entire collection in my jacket pocket and no one would be the wiser.
I’ve heard from a few people who have been tending to move towards the media servers. I absolutely see the benefit to it.
For me, I tend to be drawn to the extras. The behind the scenes stories and documentaries. The process fascinates me.
I could still of course rip these along with the movies but for me. If it’s a movie I love I think I’ll still sit in the physical media collection pigeon hole.
We each collect in our own ways and all have different methods. Whatever works best for the individual !
the fear I have of getting rid of some of my titles is what if further down the line i want that title and the price for it has gone up to some stupid price
I think that’s the fear of all collectors.
I think it’s helped me seeing a number of titles getting released over and over again. I suppose it depends on the title and how much you care for the movie. I’ve cleared out a bunch of titles but made sure that they’re titles that I’m not going to massively miss if I can’t access them again.
I’ll never understand why people double or triple dip movies. That tells me there’s a hoarding issue. There’s plenty of people who buy way more copies of the same movie than that, which I think is absurd.
Yeah I find it bewildering… yet you’ve seen I do it myself.
I need to decide which ones need to go. I’m not going to watch them all !
Or of course I could have enough to build a little shrine for a particular movie 😂
I feel like asking yourself if something you own has a purpose is a good point.
I think I need to stop and do that before I order things at times.
I’ve been collecting since the days of VHS,but sold those off and slowly replaced them with DVD and then Blu Ray (I did not then go to 4K), I have around 4000+ movies and I would say I could get rid of quiet a few movies (1000+) that I know I will never watch again. I have started to sell off a few movies but to be honest it’s hardly made a dent in my collection.
I don’t know if you feel the same way but part or the issue of selling off some of the collection is the worth.
I know I want to move on some of the collection but because they’re worth next to nothing I sit and think “well, should I just keep them” then I stop sit in the situation of having more movies than I need and have time for.
Going to try and get over that mindset though. I got to the stage that it was getting ridiculous with how things were over running.
omg! are you me from a parallel universe. My movie and tv horde have gotten the best of me. I have so many unopened releases that I had to stop buying cold turkey until I catch up. But I want to upgrade my electronics to continue my hobby. I keep all physical media from Cartivision to beta, vhs, laserdisc, dvdR,dvd. psp movies blu ray and 4 k releases, never throwing them out unless they break, or I need to sell on eBay when things get tight. Sorting everything in a climate-controlled storage unit is quite the project.
Oh my. Climate controlled storage. Epic project.
I think it wonderful seeing well kept collection. Can’t really justify keeping ‘everything’ myself any more but… for things like my laserdiscs. I’m seriously considering donating them to the 80s video store that’s opened up close by to me. It’s like a mini museum. They respect and care for their physical VHS and items they’ve collected so I’m feeling that if I let them go to somewhere that other can enjoy and they’re cared for them I might be able to pass some items on… I think !
I’ve been thinking more about cutting down on the physical content to afford the better equipment and presentation for what I do still keep.
It’s an ongoing battle for the best approach for my situation.
You said everything I was feeling and I agree wholeheartedly. I too am now waiting for sales and cleaning up to the essentials.
It’s a weird wake up call after many years of accumulating so much.
Feels nice to clear out but what feels even better… because I’m not ordering as much. When I do pick something that’s truly worth it. I’ve got that excitement back for when I actually receive a new package.
When I was ordering too much, the deliveries were just another standard day. Now, they’re a treat.
So true, same here
Happy to find I’m not alone with this !
I paused it on your Kevin Smith collection & easily saw you have a serious problem of having to have every possible release of a film! All you need is either a DVD or Blu Ray of a film! You don’t need multiple copies of Dogma or Clerks! Get rid of the doubles & you will see how fast your collection shrinks & frees up space!
😳 woah. I didn’t think I’d quite caught the Kevin smith craziness corner on video.
Absolutely agree with you though. Why watch the DVD when I have the Blu ray sat there.
As you can see though, got carried away with Kevin Smith. All his movies, most of his stand up stuff, clerks animated… and I still have the Chasing Amy Criterion laserdisc knocking around.
if your collection is encroaching on your living space, As if it is in your way. Then yes it is Hording. i my self put my dvds in Bulk cd cases. I have a 500 and multiple 250. I don't keep the cases. I still buy DVDs for a few reasons. Sometimes there are movies that are not on streaming. Some moves or shows will never be streaming. Lost media. some are tied up in licensing rights. others get banned for being inappropriate for 2023. Simpsons has a few episode for example. The big one right now is they are starting to edit movies and shows
I still have a collection of dvd too. I have purchased some of those dvd titles digitally on iTunes for the HD version but you’re absolutely right that with digital there’s always that risk of amendments or changes to some of the movies. Some of the extras too can be worth keeping the old DVDs for. I always remember that Brian Blessed audio commentary on a dvd release. It was a fair while before we saw this (or heard it) on a Blu ray release… that dvd sat in my collection purely for the commentary.
Sometimes the older releases are worth keeping for the extras alone.
More pack rat than hoarders; the latter tend to not get rid of things like spoiled food, which would attract vermin.
@@luisrizo8813 i still classify this as a level of hoarding. When they don’t get rid of spoiled food and things like that, I see that as a more extreme version of hoarding… I imagine a whole spectrum of different behaviours for it… I’d put myself at the lower end. I think 🤔
@@PhillwithadoubleL thinned the hurd by selling some concert blus I had found...to use for credit for cheaper blind buys.
Yes wokeism is destroying our culture. Plus physical media usually has better quality video and audio.
It's a fine line to tread. I've been collecting a lot of DVDS in the last couple of years from charity shops very cheap but im finding im not watching them. I think next year it will be watching them and then clearing them out
The temptation when things are cheap is to just grab them. I think we all do it.
Personally, I have far too many titles I’ve just not watched over the many years of collecting. Pick ups from sales, pre owned bargains, you name it.
Hoping doing this video has made me more aware of what I’m doing and hopefully helps me reign on the crazy.
But then… we’re all movie fans. And what’s not to love about a good collection !
@@PhillwithadoubleL indeed its good to evaluate from time to time though ☝️
I’m being careful not to buy every release, almost for the sake of it. I’ll stick mainly to horror and pick and choose carefully what I get. I don’t want too many blu rays or 4k because it will just get out of hand. I sometimes wonder what the point of it all is, then other times it’s the opposite. Either way I’m glad you made this video, as it’s an eye opener.
It’s very easy to start losing track of things. When those sales come up or when you’re wandering the pre owned market you can sometimes get swept away… that’s before all the hype of new releases leading you into temptation.
It’s wise to be more careful or selective… unless of course you have the space / organisation and need for a huge number. I personally feel more at ease with starting to limit my numbers down.
I've stuck strictly to Blu-Ray with the occasional DVD, but I've built a system.
I've moved my standard catalog of movies to binders and recycle the cases. A binder of 400 slots can accommodate as many as 400 movies (depending on bonus discs, double features, etc.). And the physical space of 400 cases can be daunting.
If you do mean to keep anything for its case, I recommend TV shows. Individual seasons, or go for complete collections. That or movies from specific companies (Arrow, Criterion Collection, Shout/Scream Factory, etc.).
I’m not sure if the binders are the right sort of storage for me. I think I’d find myself back in the same boat of trying to keep everything. Which is what I’m trying to fight against.
I’m ok storage wise if I keep my numbers reasonable. I’ve just let things get away with me and have been keeping and collecting things that I didn’t really need to.
What do you do with your empty cases ?
@@PhillwithadoubleL I recycle the ones that are for your typical catalog releases. They seem to be the standard single/double disc Blu-Ray cases that are available to get blank and in quantity. However, some exceptions as I said are for TV shows or for specialized catalogs (Arrow, CC, Shout! Factory, etc.). Those are usually better designed aesthetically and make better showpieces to those you entertain.
You're a hoarder when you own more media than you have time to use it. DVDs and Blu-rays especially are next to free at thrift stores as people feel as if they're getting a great deal but in reality , 90% of people don't want them as to why they're pretty much free .
Also many collectors think that these items will be worth money in the future , which is 100% incorrect as to many people are collecting/hoarding making all these items dime a dozen . This modern era of media collecting reminds me of the sports card collectors from 1985-1999 as 97% of these cards are now basically worthless for this very reason.
You’re spot on. So many DVDs you can get for free and we’re now seeing Blu Ray going for next to nothing. Swap meets and thrift stores you can often get numerous titles for a couple of dollars.
I think it’s a reason I’ve been resistant with clearing out the collection. They’re just not worth anything. So if I can’t get anything for them, would I be better just keeping them… which really is quite silly if they’re items I’m not going to use again.
I’ve tried to change that mindset and concentrate more on improving my living environment and I don’t think there’s a single title I’ve regretted removing.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I was accumulating a record collection , I stopped buying new records about 2 years ago as prices are through the roof . Although ,I just happened to live a 5 minute walk from a busy thrift store and still occasionally find records for$3.99 but they're hard to come by these days. DVD , Bluray and CD's are in abundance though.
The Vinyl record market is going to crash as well which will happen likely sooner than later , as to many people are hoarding them as an investment much like the sports card crash. Although I collect to listen too and not as an investment , but I also don't own 1,000 records🤣
I think collecting for investment is a big gamble. No telling what something may or may not be worth over time.
I’d say a good % of movies will remain available in one for or another.
Couple of titles I was looking for which are only currently on dvd, the prices seem to go up for… still able to pick it up on digital for around $5. So, always some kind of option.
Oh boy yes. I’ve gotten rid of so many old comics, TPBs and especially toys. A lot of stuff I’ve let go if I’m not going to watch them again. I might get some digitally (forgive me), for things I might watch and I’ll buy stuff I really want like Oppenheimer.
You’re forgiven. I’m a digital user too. Found many benefits using digital over physical.
Still a physical collector but that’s now usually for things I really care about more than the anything and everything that I used to do.
A lot of my older comics are out of the door now. Many had been stored in boxes unused for many many years. I just hope they bring someone else joy rather than being hidden away.
My DVD collection was really large and I ran out of space. I used to do a lot of blind buying.
About 10 years ago I started the process of replacing DVDs with BluRays for any movie that I will revisit and are favourites. DVDs I would never watch again were sold or donated.
But I did slow my physical media purchasing at the same time and fell into watching a ton of streaming.
However, 4K BluRay has led me to revisit my collection.
I'm now in the process of buying a good number of BluRays and 4Ks to fill gaps in my collection. But the same rules apply, I'm only buying films that I will rewatch and are favourites.
Filling the gaps is another thing I struggle with from time to time. A collection of movies that have a crappy sequel… Die Hard / Batman etc etc I almost feel like I have to have the rubbish ones to complete the set. In reality there’s just no need. Not watching A Good Day to Die Hard again that’s for sure !
@PhillwithadoubleL Totally... I own Terminator and T2... nothing else.
My gap filling is more along the lines of, I like The Burbs, I'll add that to my collection etc.
I scan the new 4K releases and add great films, but ignore 90% of them.
I own a few Criterion discs, but I'll never own the majority.
Sadly Terminator was one of the franchises I was all in and got all the movies… along with the Sarah Connor chronicles. Hopefully now I’ve pulled back I won’t be such a completionist with all the franchise I like one or two movies from (damn you Blade Trinity)
I’m the same with criterion now thankfully. Just the movies that are 100% for me.
For the first time in years my pre order list is literally zero. I have my eye on things but I feel more comfortable with waiting than I have in the past.
No longer feeling the pressure that I ‘gotta catch ‘em all’
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if it's organized it's collecting, if it isn't its hoarding.
But yeah, my local library gives away movies for free sometimes, so recently that's where I've picked up a good amount, but I tend to have them in probation until I've watched them. Then if I like them they get their rightful place on the shelf, if not they go in the donate bin.
I love that ‘if it’s organised it’s collecting if not it’s hoarding’ - I’m going to use that and set to organising the collection.
Everything in its place and a place for everything !
Quality over quantity. Do you want a curated collection of your favorite movies or do you want a large collection of mostly unwatchable turkeys for the sake of filling up shelves?
Now… curated. Previously I’d say it was more about having as much as possible… and now, the realisation that a portion may not get watched again and are taking up soooo much space.
Parring down the collection to a manageable amount and only a collection that reflects my personal tastes. I’m sure I’ll still have turkeys in there but at least they’ll be turkeys I like !
I have an impressive seashell collection. I keep it on beaches around the world.
😂😂 I think I’ve seen some of your collection.
Great video. My collection isn't overflowing in other areas....yet. But I have started doubling up on shelves (2 deep) which has started to concern me. I've curated my collection in the past to bring numbers down but what I am finding is there are too many deals enticing me to buy more and too many nice limited editions which stirs that FOMO aspect of me. Like you, I need to slow down but it's very hard when there is a constant stream of deals. Films I want to watch but then not necessarily keep in my collection.
There have been so many sales recently from boutique labels. All enticing in their own way.
I try to ease myself off by looking at general availability of the titles and the thought of buying when I’m ready to watch rather than because they’re in the sale. It doesn’t work all of the time but it’s certainly slowed me down with some pick ups… but my wish list of titles is constantly growing !
Heres an idea if you not sure what to do just keep em,put them in big cardboard or storage boxes you can get from shops and stuff ,list contents on piece paper and tape to side stick in loft same list on pc job done.
I think they need to go rather than continuing to store them. I already have a bunch in the loft (that haven’t been missed). I think if they’re gone and in the loft then it’s just continuing the cycle of storing things that just aren’t really needed.
If they aren’t limited in any way then generally if I did get the sudden urge to rewatch one of them… they’re either cheap to pick up again or easily available on a digital streaming service.
I buy cheap at like yard sales, I have 700-something and they've taken over my living room. I think I want to transfer everything to the PC, I already did that with my CDs so I can put them up and still have them available.
I’ve seen a few folks do that with their collections, they do have to keep upgrading their storage but they’ve cleared most of their collections into storage.
Yard sales is certainly the place to grab a bargain, easily get carried away at those things at times.
@@PhillwithadoubleL You can't do anything with digital collections since you do not own them. You buy a non transferrable revokable license to use the product for as long as a company allows you to. I just think the smartest thing to do is streamline your collection and remove anything that you'll likely never use again and only keep what's special to you. With digital purchases there's no 'sell button' so you cannot do that. If you pay full price for a digital product and you don't like it you cannot do anything. I don't understand the appeal of digital purchases but I do understand why people hold products in digital forms. i.e. buying a digital game or movie with DRM is bad. Buying products DRM free and holding them digitally is good. It's the DRM I dislike and not actually the digital storage method.
I must say this is one of the best videos I've seen on this subject. and I can feel your pain
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video.
Hopefully have some better ones up my sleeve for the future. See if I can rattle some cages !
Although, I’m hoping some of my topics will be well balanced with differing points of view but… I like the discussions with other collectors / movie fans.
@@PhillwithadoubleL have you ever done a video on your home cinema setup. I always like to know what people are watching the movies on
@@davidmckee2898 I haven’t yet no. Not sure I’ll be doing one for a while. I’ve dropped well behind with the whole home cinema set up.
It happened when I had kids. The fear of sticky fingers on screens or in players freaked me out so I slowed from equipment upgrade.
Now they’re getting a little older though I may dive back in. My old amp I’m still using doesn’t even have ATMOS 😱
The kids thing also changed some habits for viewing. Digital content is more of a thing than I ever expected (and we also avoid the manhandling of discs by the kids if some things are digital)
I grew up with physical media and still buy it. I've had OCD my whole life and find myself pinging back and forth like a metronome between buying a lot and wanting to pare down.
Its like you said; a collection should be reflective of and representative of you and your taste rather than anything and everything, which is something important to think about.
Do I like Halloween Resurrection and Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3? No not really lol.
Do I own them to have the complete franchises and potential marathons? Yes.
Is that really necessary? Something to consider.
Starting this year I've taken to limiting myself to a large shelf dedicated to movies and TV. when it's at capacity it's time for curation and assessing what I really want and don't. Leads to some tough choices but also critical thought and evaluation. Also can motivate a rewatch to see if I still like the film in question if it's been long enough.
Same for growing up with physical media.
I remember when I was young my grandad taking all the grandkids shopping to spend a tenner each. All the kids wanted toys… except for me. I wanted a VHS. It was between Beverly Hills Cop and Innerspace. He wouldn’t let me have Beverly Hills Cop because of the rating 😂😂
But yeah, always been a physical media kinda guy and go the same way with the impulse to buy more than I need.
I did another video about completing certain franchises as I often wonder the same thing. Do I need to complete the lot of a franchise or just get the ones I like 🤷🏼♂️
There’s a lot of considering I’ve been doing recently around the collection and how my situation has changed over the years. It’s been pretty consistently growing but now I’m considering if I value the space more than those things I’ve accumulated that (let’s face it) very rarely get watched.
I still want a collection but I don’t ’need’ the numbers I currently have.
I will consistently be back and forth with this but I’m hoping that although it might be a slow process that I can get to a place that I feel happy with what I have to handle.
I’ve been appreciating the clearer spaces with taking my numbers down a little. I’m sure I’d feel better with a few more gone. It’s just that niggle in the back of the mind… what if I want to watch it at some point and what if it’s no longer available anywhere.
I dont own one single steel book or limited edition box. I don't pre order anything, or have any FOMO or get sucked into the limited edition thing. It really doesnt bother me. I mainly buy films that i really like and are a few years old, unless something newer is on sale.
The majority of my collection is blu ray,.I upgraded quite a few of them from dvd's but im not upgrading my blu rays to 4k, would be an extreme cost. My 4k player upscales blu rays and im really happy with how they look.
I cant believe that people have bought the very same film on each new format over the years. And they are paying really high prices on old films now being released on 4k. I bought many of these films second hand on blu ray for as little as £1 each. The high price of 4k really puts me off them.
I also dont even buy certain films in collections. Like with the Blade trilogy, i only own Blade 1 because the other two are just average films for me. I only own Terminator 1 - 3, Transformers 1 - 3. I am not interested in the newer star wars films, or the latest Matrix, Halloween or Screams. I've watched most of them, and all felt pretty flat in my opinion. Certainly wouldnt buy them.
One thing that has changed for me is that i go less and less to the cinema, where now its basically stopped. I have a great set up at home and its far more comfortable for me there. Any new film I want to see, like the upcoming Aquaman 2, ill just wait for the blu ray to come out and pick it up for £15. Would cost that for us to go to the cinema anyway.
I must admit, I got sucked into collecting steelbooks at one point. When they first started being issued they were roughly the same price as a new release. But then over time, companies like Zavvi started pumping out more and more, flooded the market and started charging more of a premium. I pulled back from that Steelbook addiction because it was all getting overwhelming.
Something I’m looking at is the ‘collections’ as you mention, when there’s a franchise with some particularly poor instalments, there’s just no point in picking up the instalments you don’t enjoy. But, there’s that impulse to complete a collection (or at least there was).
There’s certainly no need for me to have ‘collected’ at the rate (and cost) that I did. I’m glad I’ve kinda woken up to my problem.
It is more and more costly and definitely worth hanging off. I don’t pre order as much these days and try to hold off buying a title until I’m ready and actually have the time to sit and watch them. In the past I’ve been picking things up as they’ve been released and at times they’ve just sat on the shelves for months, sometimes years and seeing the prices drop… it’s pointless that I’ve had them sat unused and ‘lost’ money in doing so.
My collection is mainly 4k UHD in titles I will only watch again and again over a lifetime. Otherwise, I just stream. All my Blu-rays I have sold off to replace titles in 4k if the restoration is better. I have around 50 titles altogether in 4k and 1080p Blu-ray. If the format is outdated, I get rid!
At the end of the day, if you couldn’t watch your entire collection casually in your spare time, I think you have a problem. There are only so many hours in a day, people, places to see and there’s work commitments. I look at some peoples collections and think how can you watch all those titles again?
That’s one of my worries with a large collection. I did another video looking at the numbers in a collection and based on viewing habits, how long it would take to watch each one again.
After I did that, it seemed ridiculous that I still have so many.
Doing these videos and considering why I kept or purchased certain titles has been eye opening. It’s led me to a big shift in collecting habits and also making me clear out a decent portion of what I still have.
There’s a big thing at the moment with folks seemingly having a need to own, just incase the title disappears. That’s seeming like the wrong way to collect for me. I really should just limit it to those I truly care about and (as you say) will get those repeat views.
I still have the impulse to collect / hoard but I’m trying to keep it under control and get on top of it.
@@PhillwithadoubleL good for you mate. In my experience, less is more.
@@adamrobinson2696 absolutely.
Attempting to pull back to a quality over quantity.
Some things are a struggle letting go. But with each thing gone. I feel a weight lift.
@@PhillwithadoubleL the way i look at getting rid of stuff is this. If its being given away free at least someone else will get use and free me of clutter. If i sell stuff, i can put the money towards something else when it comes out and i really need it. Otherwise, i invest the money in stocks.
meanwhile my friend is swimming in about 1000 cds. plus dvds. and lps. and cassettes
When I look at numbers, I start to consider how long it would take me to watch or listen through my collection.
1000 movies. I’d be hard pressed to be able to watch 1000 movies within 5 years… then when you consider all those new releases we’re getting along with the new tv shows and series across multiple platforms… it’s when I start to consider if it’s worth keeping so many when the likelyhood is that I may not ever actually get around to using them again.
I have over 6000 blurays I used to keep them in alphabetical order but got tire of moving hundreds of movies to do so remember a lot of movies that are oop are worth a lot more than you paid for them and when physical media is done away with you will be sitting on a gold mind
Some titles may be worth a lot in the future (some are already). But I don’t want to be sat on a large collection just because they may or may not be worth something in the future. I could be dead and gone before any of them see any increase in value.
Seeing how my kids consume media also makes me wonder the worth of keeping these things when they kids are happier just using digital content.
I sometimes wonder if I could live without physical media. Might try a little experiment and see how I get on without access to ANY physical media for a month !
I'm going to trim my collection and get rid of some of the fluff. if I know the movie is going to be poor quality sometimes I'll just fast forward through the majority of it and then get rid of it.
I get excited when I find something that I feel fills a hole in the collection like Shanghai Joe. An Italian Martial arts Western.
Exactly what I’m trying to do with my collection now. More curated to my tastes rather than everything and anything.
I love finding gems that perhaps usually go unnoticed by many. Have to be honest, not a clue about Shanghai Joe, but your description makes me wanna go check out what it is.
I'm lucky shawscope came out around the time I started collecting. Not a big fan of, but i really wanted the boxer omen.
Did a bunch of searching for that one movie on bluray. learned more about all the companies around the world and the rise of physical media popularity. I ended up deciding to wait on its own release some will do.
So I don't have the FOMO or a need to buy big sets I don't need.
Also 4k is becoming a second chance to grab these films.
Yeah a lot of those limited releases have been coming around again on 4k… some movies have been coming around again anyway on alternate non limited releases.
I collect things that have personal significance to me. I collect old postcards and old books that are of and relating to the town I grew up in. As far as movies, I usually collect ones that have sentimental value to me. Like the movies and television shows that I grew up watching with friends and family.
I’m trying to switch my mindset to something similar. Just collecting the things that are valuable to me. Not sure what triggered that need to collect as much as I could… it’s certainly a problem !
Streaming prices lately are insane what you're doing is fine
The subscription services are going insane with their prices. Starting to be a premium on par with what cable we’re charging.
They all love their exclusives but it seems that the cost of the amount produced is pushing their prices way high. Especially when the quality of some of their shows or movies are sub par.
At the moment I tread a line between digital purchases via iTunes (we don’t have VUDU in the UK) and physical. Also have some streaming services but they’re being limited down with how many I have.
Editing movies is the biggest reason I still collect DVDs.
A good solid reason to be keeping hold of some DVDs. 📀
Do you use them to pull clips for editing or is it more of a thing of studying the editing style of others ?
I guess I wasn’t clear. When I watch streaming movies, I noticed that they have cut a part of a scene or left the scene out entirely and it’s probably do space saving,maybe. Still to me it’s a form of censorship. That is the reason why I’m keeping my DVD collection will grow it for movies I don’t have and I want.
@@whathec69 ah, I getcha.
Yeah, think Disney have been one of the biggest culprits of this for their Disney+ service.
Completely see your reasons why, guess I’m a little less worried about that if it’s a movie that I won’t go to on a regular basis. But then… if it’s a movie I like or plan to revisit then it will definitely form part of my collection. Guess for me. It all depends on the movie as if that kind of thing bothers me.
I'm doing this too. I've really gotten out of upgrading especially since I upgrade all my favorites.
I take screenshots of new releases and what till Black Friday for new movies. I stream the most movies on tubi. Actually there's been a number of movies that got a lot of hype and I didn't like them so I'm glad I watched them first.
That laser disc of The Killer looks amazing though. Display that shit! You could probably make some sweet change selling that 😄
😂😂 I’ve got a number of laserdiscs I’ve kept hold of for display purposes. Love the clash of the titans artwork.
The LP / vinyl frames from IKEA make them pop quite nicely. Just the discs being quite weighty you gotta make sure they’re hung / fitted well.
Planning on framing the clash of the titans laserdisc with my signed Ray Harryhausen print. Met him a lot of years ago at a convention.
I've realized this too. I've limited myself to two bookshelves (one smaller) and once they get filled I have to go thru and get rid of what I dont/havent watched or what I dont care for anymore. I sell it, or I donate them. I still need to slim it down more tho. I'm also suplimenting with places like TUBI and Pluto TV as well
I’ve tried to change how I buy and now ‘try’ to buy the majority when I’m ready to sit and watch them. Finding that a lot have appeared on streaming services or dropped in price before I’ve had chance to watch.
A number that I’ve caught on streaming services I’ve actually been relieved that I didn’t spend that £18 / $20 on the new release for it to just sit on my shelf still sealed and losing any value.
I actually canceled my Oppenheimer 4k because its a film that im not 100% sure I'll watch oftem. If its a good price on Balck friday I may bite but im trying to fight the urge to buy just to buy@@PhillwithadoubleL
A narrow, focused collection will usually be more complete and satisfying. When people hear that I collect comics, their first question is usually, "How many do you have?" For me it's not quantity, but quality. I only collect one era ("Age" in comic-speak), better condition, and one company (DC Comics). If you focused on one genre or one decade, perhaps that will help. Narrow and focused has helped me keep the volume down and the quality higher.
I’m definitely narrowing down the movies. Don’t think mine will be down the genre or era. More of a personal thing of how a film makes me feel.
If I don’t have a strong connection then I think they need to be weeded out slightly. I will be focusing on quality… quality for me that is !
I collect video games and getting old stuff has lost its charm with all the scalping, and I can't and won't justify paying so much for a game that I can already play on actual hardware. Internet servers will outlife the cds anyway, but I still want my favourites.
With new games, I buy them and keep them even if I didn't like them that much, mostly because I would be losing money (I know, I already consumed the thing, but I still feel like that). I really should reconsider this, though.
I’m at that point with the thought of losing money. But, what is it worth to me to keep things I’m really not ‘that’ interested in 🤷🏼♂️
My current though is that the money is already spent and product used so really, I’m not losing money by getting rid, I’ve spent that money, I just wouldn’t be getting much in return for the product I’m clearing out. At the moment I’m focusing on the space / living environment over amassing things I don’t use…
I’m bad for keeping old tech too. Clearing through things I found my old Sony Erickson Walkman phone. Dread to think how long that’s been stored for no reason. It’s ridiculous when I sit and think about it.
Scalping is a real issue though. Even on recent releases of limited editions. Hate seeing them listed at 3 times the price as soon as they’re ‘sold out’. Preying on that FOMO that we have.
Retro games also seem to be awful for many folks charging silly prices for those rare titles in their original format. I’m glad digital is in a place that to some extent gives us options for a limited number of the older titles.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I wouldn't sell something like my childhood Game Boy Color, but I'm getting more adamant about selling games and maybe comics I don't care that much about (my movie collection is very limited so that's not issue). I'm on vacation right know but I'm already thinking about what to sell. I was already thinking about doing this, but this video pushed me over the edge. We'll see if I get second thoughts when I come back home.
And to be honest, I don't trust official digital distributions, but there are other ways to ensure you get what you are looking for, that's my relief.
I went through the process of getting things off my shelf I definitely didn’t want to keep hold of. The difficulty then is either selling them on or donating them.
It’s a weird conundrum of sorts. You know you don’t need them yet there’s something kinda holding you back from fully vomiting to that clearing out phase.
For me though, the things that I have let go… I’ve not actually missed, as difficult as it has been to actually part with them.
It’s all a very personal thought process. Not everybody will feel the same. I just think it’s worth a consideration if some items are just sat doing nothing. I think I’d rather someone else have that enjoyment from them rather than them doing nothing.
I used to be a collector a now sadly I am an order started putting movies into plastic boxes not enough room. And that's why I've came up with the decision to stop collecting movies. It's a shame the thing I love I've got to stop😩
Man, that’s a shame if you have to stop collecting if it’s something you love.
I’ve enjoyed collecting… and still enjoy collecting. I think I’ve just had to switch my thinking with what I collect and or keep hold of to reach a place that I feel at peace with what I have. Ive not cleared out EVERYTHING. I have a kind of step by step process. I too have been boxing some titles and storing them in our loft… found that these titles I removed from the shelves and boxes weren’t really ‘missed’ when they weren’t in the collection. If I don’t miss them then it makes me feel better about taking the final step of either selling or donating. Clearing the titles that didn’t hold any real significance for me has helped be able to continue collecting the movies I actually do want on the shelves. It’s a long weird ongoing process with lots of second thoughts / self doubt etc but I’ve found once I got my numbers down I felt a whole lot better. Also removing the titles that were dealt very good gives me a stronger collection… well, in my eyes.
I still hoard, I still need to clear out and sort my head out with it all but… it’s a process !
@@PhillwithadoubleL Phil you are 100% right👍. I have only just started watching your videos and I think they're absolutely great best I've seen❤️
@@davidmckee2898 not long since started and still a lot to learn around putting together videos. Hopefully get better and better.
Just deciding if I need a spot of music or some sound FX eventually 🤔
I still have hundreds of cds mostly because I still have a cd player in my car. But I have joined Amazon music and tried to cut back.
I used to keep a load of CDs in my car for that reason too. Most in a big wallet to flip through.
I think the car connectivity and availability of the music through various providers cut down my need to have the discs in the car. I still have a decent CD collection in the house but blue tooth and numering devices around the house… it’s just easier to move around the place and have the music follow you without the need to move that disc with you.
@@PhillwithadoubleL yes mate agree when I upgrade the car eventually I think a lot of the cds will probably go. I started vinyl collecting too but cut back with the cost of living going up
I just recently started down sizing on movies I have no interest in and spending more time collection the titles i like. I had out of print movies that I didn't care about that I could sell to get money for titles i wanted.
👆🏼👆🏼this !
Pretty much what I’m wanting to do.
Glad I pulled back from blind buying so many titles too, so many I’ve caught on one streaming service or another and most I no longer ‘need’ in the collection because… they weren’t really movies for me.
Well.. i have 2k vhs atleast. And lots of dvd and blue rays. Im working on selling many of them.
I’ve no doubt that’s a mammoth task.
May I ask, was there a trigger that prompted you to go through them and decide to sell ?
It’s a difficult process after many years of accumulating things. I wish you luck ✌🏼
You could slim down your dvd collection greatly with tarifold sleeves. They even have them for blu rays.
I think slimming them down that way for me still feels like I’m perhaps hoarding. Still keeping some movies unnecessarily. It’s been a consideration but I think first steps are to eeed out some of the really bad movies I own !
Ha, I still have my laserdiscs. They’re in a box in the garage but I still have them
Laserdiscs were a thing of beauty. Think that’s why I struggle to part with some of them. I’ve framed a few up because I love the art.
Having collected for over 25 years, i have horned the art of only buying what i like, what i know i will watch more than once, and even blind buying i do my research first! I even buy second hand for less than £5 from CEX online or from their stores, sometimes selling some old replaced dvds and getting a voucher to use for my purchases, i like to recycle.
Over my time collecting I somehow lost the joy of shopping in store. Finding I own that much that I couldn’t find much of anything I wanted when I went to the high street (much of my collection is from purchasing online)
I want to cut down enough to get that joy back of nipping into CEX and finding something I want.
I need to be quicker at moving on things I didn’t care much for.
Thumbs up for the recycling 👍🏼
Great video really enjoyed it Phill, i feel ive got a designated space for my movies (although in our bedroom is a bit strange) and im navigating that space so it never spills out 🤞🤞 i think every collector goes through the just one more title phase until the go "whhooooopppppss" 🤣👍👍
Glad you enjoyed the video.
I’ve had some strange collecting habits over the years. I’m going to go into it a little more with some other videos but my collecting turned on me in a way that I was buying for the sake of buying more than anything else. Completing collections in the wrong way. Not for myself, more for the numbers.
I wish you all the best keeping on top of your collection and hope you don’t encounter the same issues or the collecting addiction that many of us fall into !
@PhillwithadoubleL I think we all do crazy things when collecting.... getting complete collections of actors/directors which will bring plenty of turkeys in 😵💫🤣 the only thing I don't think I've done is collect for numbers....if anything I wish I only liked a type of movie that has a small amount of instead of a lot of genres so I have to get a wide range 😵💫🤣 cheers Phill, it is an ongoing thing isn't it though! We need a group called PHA (Physical media anonymous) 😁😁👍👍
Defo need a support group, although I’d be worried that it turned into buying encouragement over fighting the urge to spend.
I’ve collected for directors before. As you say, always end up with titles that don’t necessarily live up to expectations.
My Paul Verhoeven collection had meant that I own Showgirls… not sure I need to own Showgirls 😂
Cool!
I have the same problem (I was mostly on top of things but now titles are are piling up in the living room and guest areas of the house) thoughI have been advised I should be 'not too hard on myself' as it's mostly taken over from alcohol as an addiction... it's safer, there's a positive outcome of actually owning something and it probably only costs about the same. However I know I will need to wean myself off _needing_ an arrival each _day_ to stop me entering depression, before it fully takes over.
I am better at waiting than I was but I still need my 'fix' at the moment and, as my therapy sessions say (as I mention above), if it stops me returning to alcohol and killing myself it's an improvement *but* it can't go on forever.
One problem is I'm very anti-streaming and have always felt the need for something tangible (even though I'll store music digitally, for example, I'll buy the CD and either use the digital copy I get for free for convenience or convert to digital for on the move listening). I was only getting into VHS collecting as DVD came in (before then I taped off the TV) as I didn't have much disposable income. When DVD arrived it was a revalation and a revolution in my buying habits and though I only imported a few things (I was multi-region capable) the fact whole TV series, with amazing extras, came out with whole seasons for the price of a few episodes on VHS and also took up a fraction of the space had me hooked immediately as did the quality and longevity aspects.
I told myself when Blu-ray arrived I'd only upgrade things I'd rewatch or 'must have' on the new format... then I added in "well it's new out on both formats and the price isn't that much different, so get new things on Blu-ray too"... then, as I watched more Blu-rays, it was obvious how much better the picture quality was (to be fair for practically any movie it certainly is) so I set out to upgrade all I could.
Then I discovered steelbook collecting! Things got more expensive as, given new ones often sold out before release, it wasn't possible to wait even if I was being patient with other titles and upgrades.
Ah, here comes 4K... again here Iwent with "only upgrade things I'd rewatch or 'must have' on the new format"... on the upside my loved TV wasn't being re-released as there was little point (especially with old material recorded in 4:4 low def source material) but then I got stuck on new releases; 4Ks were much more niche than Blu-rays ever had been, even early on... and still are... so were quite a lot more expensive (especially in the UK) but I wanted the best quality and found/find it hard to get the Blu-ray if a 4K release exists; what was worse was steelbooks, my new passion, only started to be available for the 4K so I couldn't even try to make myself buy the Blu-ray steelbook instead of the madly priced 4K steelbook because, simply, there wasn't one. If I wanted the steelbook it had to be 4K and often had to be pre-ordered or it sold out (potentially costing even _more_ on eBay sice it was OOP).
So now I had the twin problem of 4K steelbooks being the norm for new release movies, where available (and of course they're, practically, all Region Free so importing steelbooks was an option if the UK didn't get one... which was often the case being as the UK, despite actually having room sizes most suitable to taking advantage of 4K's improved resolution, is a huge streaming adopter being such a small country and most homes having access to high enough bandwidth... and, if I'm honest, seeming to mostly consist of viewers more interested in convenience than supreme quality; and sometimes who can blame them?).
At least upgrading DVDs to BDs is relatively cheap now; weirdly the BD is often cheaper new thanthe DVD is, and therefore my need to keep buying isn't outstripping what I've always spent... well certainly not by too much. But the new 4K steelbooks add up quickly in cost and everything takes up room that I just don't have.
I know I have to address it but getting rid of something, once I have it, even if I'm not a fan, is really hard... it looks good in it's spot on the shelf (when there is a shelf spot available, anyway!) and I'd feel a loss of "what if I wan't to rewatch to see if my tastes or perceptions have changed as I grow older?"
It's tough but at a minimum I should take the DVDs I've upgraded to Blu-rays and Blu-rays I've upgraded to 4K to an exchange shop - it'll be a start even if I know it's far from the end!
First. Thank you for sharing your story.
I’m glad that you’ve been able to change habits over that’s better for your health and well-being.
If the collecting of movies keeps you on track for beating that alcohol addiction then it’s the lesser of two evils.
Hope that therapy is helping you come to an understanding with your addiction.
Keep at it.
I often think that my collection habits were compounded by my personal struggles and the dopamine hit of ordering and the receiving these items were what kept me ordering over and over. Plus, movies have me that escape for at least a couple of hours. A couple of hours outside my reality and into another. I’ve fought some demons but now feel in a stronger place to handle things in a healthier way.
Good luck on your own journey my man and again. Thank you for sharing and your honesty. YOU GOT THIS 🫶🏼
@@PhillwithadoubleL Thanks for replying and your words of support; yes I am recognising the dopamine hit of ordering and receiving (and even, before that, the thrill of hunting the best price and fiding rare items) as the dopamine release part of addiction I've dealt with in my alcoholism and other things I get 'addicted' to (at least I _hardly_ ever get Funko Pops any more...).
Not that this one has applied to me but I know they've done scientific tests using images and brain activity scanners that prove drug addicts don't just get a hit from the drug but just looking at the equipment/needles/substance ib preparation for taking it makes dopamine flow in anticipation.
I've done treatment courses that help me understand that scientific side and it's helped as (despite what the 'addictions' may make me look) I'm actually a very logical and technically, intelligent person.
FWIW it's the first time I've written it down and I actually copied my post for my own future references as I wanted to be able to look back at the raw admission I've had to make.
Your thoughts are the same as mine, sometimes I collect because titles are really really cheap and other times I buy because I specifically need that title. I don't mind waiting for my local store to have a sale before buying and if I miss out then that's fine too.
I've been collecting bluray's for two and a half years and now have over 3100 and 500 of those are 4K's.
Recently I have slowed down on buying as I find myself staying at home more watching movies -- as the world passes me by.
I much prefer the 4K releases so I am focusing on that at the moment as I have a serious home theatre system.
I just purchased "Lawerence Of Arabia" 4K steelbook and that wasn't cheap.
The more I buy the further retirement moves away too.....CHEERS.
Haha, there’s a harsh reality about retirement. Do I want the massive collection or would I prefer to be able to stop working sooner 🤔 No brainer really !
If you have the decent home cinema set up then that 4k physical release is going to be the thing you’re always want ready to go and that begins the new cycle of the constant upgrading of titles too !
@@PhillwithadoubleL Home theatre upgrading is as addictive as buying movies except speakers and amps etc. cost so much more than movies.
Yep, I’m behind with the home theatre stuff. Got amp and speakers at one point but within a few months I was already needing to look towards upgrades to get ATMOS etc.
I’ve held back from upgrading that stuff for the time being. It’s a possible for the future when I can claim a room in the house (currently the kids playroom).
Torn between a home cinema set up or a TH-cam / podcast type studio… or even a hybrid of both 🤷🏼♂️ time and money needed !
@@PhillwithadoubleL Sadly I do not have a dedicated home theatre room so I have taken over the lounge room. My kids have grown up and left home and it's amazing how much spare money you have once the kids are gone.
Ha, I can believe that. Kids cost an arm and a leg. Same with the lounge.
7.1 system set up in there but it sadly doesn’t get used as much due to possibly waking the kids when they’re in bed, well, that’s what the wife always says because I have it “too loud”
I collect what i like 90% with the occasional blind buys here and there if something sounds good to me. I've started collecting 20 years ago but the country that i live in doesn't get any releases after the DVD and some blu ray so i have to import everything and with the Brexit and all getting boutique stuff is hard and pricy, so try to get what i can at reasonable price ofc. And man, i thought i hade some decent number of movies with 400-500 movies and 20-30 complete tv shows, but reading the comments i think i'm ok... for now, at least 😀
Man, Brexit has hit us all.
Lucky enough we can get some good titles from the boutique labels (and there are plenty of other mainstream releases) but importing becomes an expensive option.
400+ movies is still a solid collection. Especially if you’ve managed to stick to all being films you enjoy and haven’t been drawn into the ‘anything and everything’ method of buying.
@@PhillwithadoubleL If UK was still in the EU i guess i would've bought a decent number of movies that i don't like that much but with a great boutique release with all the limited bells and whistles so it's probably a good thing after all. Stil black Friday season is upon us so my shelves will be filled with some new stuff weather i like it or not :)
@@creatora123 Black Friday. This is where I back step on cutting down the collection 😂
Already lingering around a slight price drop on Out of Sight 4k from Kino Lorber
Time to move on to collection 3.0
3.0… does that mean ‘more’ collecting ?!
@@PhillwithadoubleL I forget who coined the idea but it goes like this. 1.0 is your original collection you started growing up. 2.0 is when you started actively collecting and buying whatever. 3.0 is when you narrow down your collection to what you really love and enjoy. Distilling it down to something personal for you.
@@harrisonosirrah I like that.
And, yep.
It’s now sounding like 3.0 🙌🏼
It's enough when you think it's enough. If others think you're hoarding, screw 'em.
I think I’m hoarding !
I just need to clear out the titles that I don’t watch again or hold no ‘value’ to me. I’ll still maintain a good size collection. Just need to weed out the rubbish.
When I’m keeping movies I have no intention of watching again it just feels like I’m ‘hoarding’ them. In reality if I watched and didn’t like then I should have moved them straight on rather than them hitting my collection.
In terms of buying any release I will when it comes to horror as I'll always find them enjoyable, other than that I buy films that have nostalgia for me like Pulp fiction, Escape from new York, ghostbusters etc or an actor which I really enjoy. Eg any Arnold schwarzenegger film! I tend to buy singular rather than sets but I'll get a set of it's a good price eg dirty harry, die hard etc
I used to with horror. Recently though not so much, there’s been too many which haven’t really done it for me.
Love a good box set but gotta be careful which ones we go for. Some collections have some weak titles mixed in there.
I don’t tend to focus on actors but have collected for certain directors.
Being careful what I hang on to now though. That collection is growing too large for the space.
I buy lots from charity shops, like 99pence for 4.
They’re cheap as chips to pick up over time. It makes me consider when I buy movies when we see prices drop so low and so quickly.
Do you keep all of those you pick up or move them on if they’re not movies you think are great ?
My worry would be that at those prices it would lead me back to the hoarding and keeping hold of far more than I actually want or need.
I keep them all as I am a collector. Got about 750 films now and 6000 CDs
@@Coneman3 woah, that’s quite a cd collection.
Collector. Hoarder if you have no place to store them. (Neatly)
Yeah… I’m a hoarder. Currently.
Will be cutting down enough to butterfly into collector very soon… hopefully.
Digital game purchases are not owned by you. Someone else owns them and you just get a non transferable license. To the everyday person does this matter? Yes and no. If you pay full price for a digital product (I didn't use the word buy) and you wish to sell it for a bit of the cost - you can't. If you die and want to transfer your collection in your will - you can't. Physical media is still great and it's up to you if you want to hoard stuff you'll never watch/play/listen to again OR streamline your collection to only those products special to you. The choice is yours. So many people are falling for the driven narrative that physical discs are just a waste of space. Companies do this because consumers having product ownership doesn't benefit them in any way since they can't just resell you the same product which costs nothing for them to make (no disc, box, manual etc & the production costs get recouped) over and over. Take console games for instance. You pay hundreds or even thousands for a legal game collection that's digital. When those servers go off for the specific console the games are limited to the devices that they are currently on. Should you encounter a disc drive failure you must buy the latest console and all of your games again because replacing a drive from an identical unit will not work legally speaking. If companies do not want to make the game compatible they do not have to and you'll never be able to play the game again. You have no control but pay full price.
The ownership thing with digital content is the same for movies too.
I’ll keep movies / games that I 100% want to use again because of this reason but luckily for me I’ve never fallen foul of losing access to digital content through those reasons. Yes, I can’t sell it on but generally I’ve picked the digital stuff up on offer anyway so it’s not a huge loss.
A lot of the movies lose value so quickly it’s sometimes just not worth trying to sell them.
Gaming I’ve been picking up digitally on offer more often now. But… I’m way behind on gaming (kids) so I’m lucky enough to still be fighting through a back catalogue of titles I can pick up cheap either digital or physical.
I think it’s down to choice and what you’re losing or gaining from each option. I think as long as you understand what ‘could’ happen then I think it’s just about making an educated choice.
Digital gaming has been nice for me because when I work away I can easily access all digital games through remote play… rather than calling home and asking someone to change out the disc… also the same for movies. A digital collection is with me whenever I want access
These days the bigger the box the less I’m interested with some exceptions like the recently announced Conan set.
I’m feeling that way more and more. Seeing the previously purchased bigger boxes with the extra content doing nothing but gathering dust makes it all just feel a little pointless chasing those editions.
I’ve just recently started collecting Blu Rays/4K’s and Steelbooks the last 3 and a half years now.
I mainly buy movies I’ve seen before that I liked, or a movie that I can’t find on streaming that I would like to watch. There are some movies in my collection I’ve yet to watch though.
I also buy a lot of limited edition stuff because I like to think I’m not just buying a movie but a piece of art as well, because I like it to look nice. The only issue is the limited edition stuff are on the expensive side.
I think it only becomes hoarding if you’re buying a ton of movies that you haven’t seen that’s not on your watchlist, like there is almost a pressure to watch that movie that’s not big on your watchlist.
My goal is to have a collection of movies I like and that it looks nice through nice editions that look like a piece of art almost.
But I have noticed the more movies I buy the more of an addict I feel, I’m only nearing 156 Blu Ray’s/Steelbooks/4K’s I own so far (including movies in box sets) as I’ve only started to collect them in the last 3 and a half years.
It’s sounds like you’re collecting the smart way.
The limited edition stuff from the boutique labels is usually really well designed and genuinely look great. Just gotta be careful with the reasons we’re spending a butt ton on the limited editions. Mean streets got announced today. £50 for the limited edition or £18 - £25 for the Blu or 4k. It’s a fair leap in price for a box and book.
If you watch 1 movie per week, than 156 blu rays is enough to watch for a year and a month and a half without re-watches. But if you watch 3 movies per week, then it is only 3.5 months. It depends how often you watch.
When we have a world where we are all forced into streaming only, kiss a lot of memorable and favorite movies, TV and music goodbye. THEY will choose. Not you. Requests not allowed.
I dunno man. I think most things will be available streaming over time. It’s just a matter of that pay wall to get at the content…
In terms of the collecting. Regardless of future availability. There are some titles in my collection that i feel no urge to rewatch so losing them on physical shouldn’t be a big deal to me personally. I will not remove any of my collection for movie I care about.
That’s a title which needs a blu ray release. Wonder boys!!!! It ain’t hoarding. Well that’s what I’m telling myself. Might have to return to TH-cam and do a similar video.
There’s a few DVD I’ve kept hold of because there’s no other option. 100% agree it needs a new release. Let folks rediscover it.
If you do a video around the same thing. Gimme a tag and I’ll check it out. Always enjoy the discussion and different points of view.
I have a big collection of dvd's but i am now addicted to collecting dvd boxsets, started with the 24 series and carried on from there, i enjoy the hunt but must admit am i going to watch them all?.
That’s the thing in my mind now. When I’ll have time to watch. Also considering more… when I do have time to watch, what am I likely to pick. It’s made me rethink needing to own certain titles that I wouldn’t pick to rewatch over others.. and if I’m not rewatching them or choosing them… then why do I keep them ?
But… 24 is a fricking great show ✌🏼
Much like one of the previous commenters said, If you buy movies that don't interest you or movies that you have little to no interest in, then there's a problem there. Far too many people (in my humble opinion) collect just so they can say "my collection's the biggest". And a lot of the time, when people tell me they own over 10,000 movies, the first question in my head is "How many of those have you actually watched?". I've been a collector of both movies and games since a VERY young age (since about 6......over 35 years ago), and that long-held love has migrated to comic books as well. My three rules for collecting are:
1.) I don't ever feel that just because I'm hunting, I NEED to buy SOMETHING. If I'm walking through a movie/game/comics store, and I don't see anything that I have on my "buy list" or that catches my eye, that's ok. There have been MANY days I've ended a hunt empty handed. And there's nothing wrong with that.
2.) I only buy things that are interesting or important to me. If I don't have a history with it, or I don't care about it, it doesn't come home with me. To this extent, twice a year I go through my shelves and if I see something that's fuzzy to me or if I'm on the fence about whether something still resonates with me, I watch/play it again. If it's something that no longer sits right with me or if I've outgrown it, I sell it. This has not only helped me keep my collection managable and personal, but I've been able to see how I've grown as a cinephile/gamer over the years.
3.) Most importantly, with VERY FEW exceptions, I don't do duplicates. If, for whatever reason, I upgrade a movie due to packaging or format, I always sell the old copy and recoop some cash. Right now, out of roughly 800 movies/TV shows and 600 games, (small numbers compaired to some of the collections I see on TH-cam everyday), I have only two films that I own in duplicate and four games. (I don't own multiple variants of any comics.) And for each of those I have very sepcific reasons why.
An additional rule I follow is that I won't upgrade just because an upgrade is avaliable. Let's assume you have It's A Wonderful Life on VHS, and you see a 4K re-release in your local store. Do you REALLY need to own that in 4K? Will a movie that's almost 80 years old in black-and-white be improved all that much over the format change or will it hurt (i.e. the Star Trek: TNG blu-ray re-release)? Some movies should remain at home on older formats. And others I only upgrade according to their importance to me. I like the first Iron Man for example, but not enough to rebuy it in 4K. Whereas Denzel Washington's Magnificant Seven was the first 4K I ever bought because I enjoyed the movie that much. So anyone who visits me can look at my wall and tell how much I love a movie based on the format that I own it in (with the exception of movies like the OG Star Wars trilogy which I still own on VHS because that was the best format for the film's original presentation).
Those are some fantastic rules there.
That’s the mindset I need and that’s the process I’m trying to do going through my collection and whipping out those that don’t hit the right criteria.
I think when I’ve seen soon of the collection tour videos on TH-cam it kinda worries me that the collection just makes the environment feel cluttered. I look at (some) of the spaces and it would stress me out a little. I want my space to be enjoyable rather than overbearing.
I still have the original Star Wars on laserdisc… although no longer a working player to watch it.
Upgrading really does turn into a bit of a trap. I’ve pulled back from upgrading a good majority as some of the movies as you say, just don’t really need it.
When there’s been a re release of something that’s had a nice rescan then very often I’ll consider the movie and is it’s actually worth owning 4k or if the Blu ray is enough for the particular movie.
@@PhillwithadoubleL It sounds like you have a direction for your collection figure it out. I hope that once you reach your journey's end, you'll be able to sit with pride and satisfaction among your collection and breathe easier. Your media room should be a place of relaxation, not anxiety and stress.
Just so you know, when you were freezing over your collection with the camera, I noticed that you have quite a few movies that I have in my collection as well. I'd be very interested in seeing what you're left with when you're done; seeing what your are.
Absolutely I’ll do a tour / scan over some of my titles if the interest is there. Still plan on keeping a reasonable size collection.
At the moment I’m trying to avoid plugging gaps in the collection or buying unnecessary sets. Would love the Ginger Snaps trilogy but held off as it’s only really the first movie I’m interest in owning. Been clearing out titles that were purely collected for the number on the spine and wanting to be ‘complete’ - Indicator and HMV Premiums had me trying to get all the numbers at one point rather than me actually wanting to own the movie.
@@PhillwithadoubleL I have a touch of OCD so I tend to struggle a bit with numbered sets as well. It makes it a lot easier to ignore the bad entries when movies don't bother with numbers and just do subtitles. 🤣
well said
None of us collectors really want to admit that our hobby at times may be a little out of control.
It affects so many of us in different ways too.
I collect blurays and dvds but iam now collecting dvds more cause they are cheaper and i dont mind the diffence from bluray to dvd but i do throw away my boxes of dvds and store them away neater big tub 😅😅😅😅😅😅 great video iam from northen ireland
Hello Northern Ireland. What a fantastic place. I lived in Belfast for a few months this year. Love it.
Personally. If you’re a fan then collect in whatever format you like. As long as you’re enjoying the content 🙌🏼
Yeah im a hoarder lol and unfortunately for me i love movie artwork so its not just about the movie itself I'll collect from around the world different editions for different artworks or whatever is in a particular set and then because i like artwork i thought I'll make a few mugs with movie artworks printed on the mugs well i got carried away and made enough i could fill two bookcases to have on display but my movie collection has grown so the idea of displaying mugs is no longer an option so i have all these mugs in my cupboard lol a total waste of space and the Small fortune i spent getting them made , be so much simpler if i didn't care for movie art i collect diecast movie cars in the larger sizes as well so yep space is an issue
Woah, numerous collections on the go there. Not surprised Spacey’s is starting to become an issue.
I’ve kept a load of laserdiscs for the artwork. Have some framed ready to go on the wall but at the moment. They’re still sat waiting for a space.
Think there’s plenty of us that get carried away with certain collecting and we all tend to fall into some kind of habits with it.
I do want to try and break some of these habits but there’s still those voices in my head that give me reasons to try and keep hold of them… maybe they might be useful again one day 🤷🏼♂️
I think my mindset has changed slightly over the years and started valuing the space a little more than the collection… also taking down that collection to lower numbers and getting some space back has also given me a little clarity in my head. Almost like removing clutter also takes the clutter from my mind.
Its never too muxh if u stressing out then fix your problem so u can enjoy it
The problem is that it’s too much. In the process of fixing the issue. A chunk of the collection will be on its way out of the door.
i collect a lot of titles im interested in and have seen plenty of times but also blind buy some that i havent seen at all that i would like to watch
I blind buy plenty… my issue is when I don’t think much to them and keep them. If I’m not interested in watching… wouldn’t I be better just clearing them out ?!
@@PhillwithadoubleL if u have no interest in watching them then yeah id say clear em out
@@azwilko1997 it’s a process. Despite realising I don’t watch or need them. I still have that urge to keep them 🤷🏼♂️
@@PhillwithadoubleL i need to do a clearout myself for movies iv watched once and dont have any desire to watch again
I went all digital to hide my problem 😂
I’m into the digital now too. Apple TV box… still get them menu screens and the extras !
And… some of the titles you can find at a better quality than physical. A fee on iTunes HD where there’s only DVD available and similarly 4k when the only physical option is Blu ray. It would be silly not to consider the digital option nowadays
Hoarding is keeping everything even trash.
Trash movies… ✔️
Keeping all movies ✔️
Hoarding is having so many things that you cannot manage the clutter where you live, and find it difficult or impossible to throw things away. You might hoard because you feel a strong need to keep things. But your connection to these things can cause you distress.
Hoarding is when you have garbage everywhere no ?
Erm. It depends how you look at it. A lot of the reality shows generally cover hoarding showing folks with their houses completely over run with garbage and everything else. I think these are extreme examples.
For what I’m talking about , I’m kinda boiling it down to a more basic form of keeping far too many things that I no longer need / want or have use for. Keeping things for no real reason.
An official meaning (via the UK NHS website) describes hoarding as…
A hoarding disorder is where someone acquires an excessive number of items and stores them in a chaotic manner, usually resulting in unmanageable amounts of clutter. The items can be of little or no monetary value.
Keep the rare stuff and sell off all the common junk
The weird thing about keeping the rare stuff. As time goes on, none of it feels as rare. So many get re releases or re issues. I’ve had many title I considered rare suddenly just go out of favour. Recently Monster Squad. My rare collectors edition now doesn’t really matter because of that new 4k Kino Lorber release in the US.
I’m aiming more towards curating my collection just around my favoured movies more than if a title is rare because… those re issues are just sucking the joy out of having the rare titles.
If a label is making money from re issues then they’re gonna keep coming.