Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder - Unboxing
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- This "California" Style Super Strats can be serious fun and don't break the bank... let's take them out of the "not so nice" cardboard box and take a look... BIG review will also follow!
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I'm 52 years young. I've been playing guitar since I was 5. That's 47 years of guitar fury. I recently bought the Sun Valley Super Shredder with the Sustainiac and the maple neck. BEST DAMN GUITAR I'VE EVER PLAYED - BARR NONE - AND I'VE PLAYED THEM ALL.
EDITED TO ADD: The neck is perfect - and I do mean PERFECT - for me. I have short fingers and unlike a lot of guitars I've played down through the years, I could never comfortably do the thumb over the fretboard old school trick ala Hendrix, Clapton, SRV etc. With this guitar, I can. The pups are VERY good and if you're like me and have smaller fingers, this guitar is right up your alley.
Thanks for the honest reviews guys! We pride ourselves on our QC and the Floyd slipping is not typical! We will be sure to address it with our set-up team. Sometimes one gets by. =)
Christina
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Schecter Guitar Research Inc Thanks for the comment... no biggie... if we all work together, we can catch stuff like that and improve the products... the guitars are great... if we now get small stuff like the setup and wrong descriptions on the websites happening, Schecter has a killer product... in the days of TH-cam, the direct feedback from the viewers helps to make things move bit faster.... I am glad I could check out these guitars and I am looking forward to more Schecter reviews!
Well, I own a black Sun Valley Super Shredder FR S and I have the same problem. Guitar went out of tune quite fast and I have found, that I have to tighten up saddle locking screws after each playing. Since I do this, it stays in tune almost perfectly for long period of time. I don't know the reason, maybe the friction of stainless steel screws is lower in the thread. Just to mention, I use the same strings on all of my guitars, each of them Floyd equipped and none of them behaves like that. Otherwise, it is great guitar and I really love it.
Instablaster...
The problem with the special Floyd is that the cube in the saddle that holds the string is soft. This leads to a scar that the string makes on the cube's surface that causes the string to unstrap. If you use stainless steel the problem is solved. Had the same problem.
The Sun Valley super Shredder is in my opinion one of the best super Strat ever produced. I have one and it has become the only guitar I play and record with. Hands down best sounding EMGs I've ever heard.
I like pulling the plastic off. It insures me that I'm the actual first person to play this guitar and unlocks it but this guitar has not been repackaged from someone else's purchase..... it gives me a tiny little feeling of satisfaction of being the first
OMFG YES! It is NOT seafoam green! I have been saying that since I got the thing. It is blue. It is the most amazing color for a guitar ever. I get emotional looking at it. Owning this guitar makes me want to play 10x as often!
I saw this video and bought the Schecter! What a great guitar! What an enlightened presentation of features, benefits, scope!
Thank you so much!
21:53 I totally agree. Every time I play Ernie Ball Strings they feel less smooth or older than what I'm used to (D'Addario). When I bought my Schecter I restrung it almost right away with NYXL.
Cant go wrong with NYXLs
Early fenders did have body end truss rod adjustment. Just EBMM added the wheel to the system.
That sea foam green guitar sounds amazing
The maple/seafoam looks great. The plain maple schecter headstock looks a lot like the old Kramer beak headstock, which is cool.
awesome! love Schecters. I need more of them.
Hello
You do have a very beautiful sound and tone. Can u give info about your gears?
The plastic on the pick guard is not put on to prevent scratching in the stores.....it comes on the full sheets of plastic ...likely 4 foot by 8 foot sheets....and it helps from chipping and scratching while the guard is punched out and machined into shape.
Henning... die Folie wird nicht von den Gitarrenbauern angebracht. Die Kunststoff-Tafeln kommen vom Zulieferer mit Folie - entweder ein- oder beidseitig. Warum? Ganz einfach, damit sie nicht verkratzen. Das kann nämlich bei der Verarbeitung sehr schnell passieren und die Folie verhindert das.
Also, beim nächsten rumgezicke deinerseits über die Folie musst du also fordern, dass der Gitarrenbauer die Folie entfernt vorm ausliefern. Der wird sich den Extra-Schritt in der Massenproduktion aber sparen wollen und argumentieren, dass die Folie gegen Kratzer schützt bis die Gitarre beim Kunden ist.
Noch Fragen?
War mir klar das der Gitarrenbauer die nicht drauf macht... aber die sollen die bitte runtermachen bevor sie zu mir kommt... oder bevor die schrauben reinkommen.... es nervt halt!
Das definitiv, da bin ich ganz bei dir.
Love me some Schecter. Henning you're freaking funny and do gear reviews that keep me laughing.
tuning tip
Start tuning form the D n G
then move to the next pair A n B
and last the outer strings
Out of curiosity, why? :D
if you start tuning from the fat E downwards, as you tune, the spring tension changes and it goes out of tune, then you get frustrated xD
with the way i suggest, the tension changes more evenly and after you repeat 2-3 times and lock it, the floyd becomes the most stable bridge available !!!
Cheers dude, I will try this out tonight!
Oi Bruv try this order 6,1,2,5,3,4
I got one. My 1st Schecter. Ive had it for 2 months. I Fn LOVE it!! Best bang for the buck if u ask me. Glad they didnt put their traditional headstock on it. Their traditional headstock design always put me off.
Clean sounds do you think it 's good
The FR string block screws will strip out the cheap FR saddles. Specials are junk..! 😅
I prefer the seafoam myself but thats just me. The orange is good but it always reminds me of the great pumpkin from Charlie Brown.
Now you have to compare it to the Charvel Pro Mod series. It's obvious that is what Schecter was emulating
Nice guitar for the money! Totally a Charvel rival for sure. Great colors.
JandNandJ
The quality is identical and better price 😉🤘🎸
Way better than my Charvels.
Vikingkombat Guessing your Charvels are MIM. Thats not a real Charvel.
This with split coil in the neck and im sold, sounds awesome, looks great :)
Not having a tone knob was NOT a mistake on their part. It gives you more clarity and output on the pickups
Ah, 2 x Vol so you can do the "Les Paul Trick" of playing neck pickup rolled back, then hit the bridge at full volume. All good...... Until I saw where they put the 3-pos toggle switch! Right where you'll hit it accidentally.... phhhhh...
Hey Schecter, Amazing "Double Off-Set Neck Heel". It's amazing 3rd dimension of carrying the parallel lines of the strings ... it's noticeably a new headstock ... whoever designed it & pushed for it deserves an "Atta-Boy"
The plastic you are ripping off comes with the pickguard material, they leave it to protect it during the drilling and all the work that comes after, certainly they could take it off before putting it into boxes, but probably they will leave pieces under the knobs and stuff, so they leave it so it becomes your problem.
Daniel Salinas .... surely you jest .. at what point did you become so lazy that peeling the pick guard plastic, the final step in making the connection & ensuring it's all yours ... clean & scratchless ... you want someone else to do, so it an be scratched just so you can bitch.
Throw those string block screws and blocks away & get the string through bridge screws. I have them on all of my Floyd Rose equipped guitars. There’s only one kind of them that actually allow the ball end to rest inside though. I’ll make a video if enough people ask.
When you do these demos it would be awesome to hear it through the gainy amp sounds rather then just a pedal through the clean. Dont get me wrong the Pinnacle is great (its my number one distortion pedal) but you have amps beggin to be cranked for high gain haha. These both sound too warm for shred guitars to my ears, the Charvel stuff seems more in the vein for lead (these would be good for thick Dokken rythmn tones though).
You mentioned "getting stuck" a bit. the cause is the maple fretboard. I have owned several guitars with rosewood and ebony, but i picked up an American Strat with a maple fretboard and I experienced that getting stuck feeling as well. The guitar plays like a dream, but it has that stucky feeling too. Only maple fretboard I've ever owned. I love the look of the maple, but it's just not as playable as the rosewood or ebony.
You are like a gourmet for guitars and amps, such a dream job.
what is the product u used on the strings to make them more slippery at 21:54?
D‘addario XLR8
Hot Tip, Finger Ease! It helps fretboard feel as well as being a string lubricant.
How do these compare to the Harley Benton Fusions?
Got this new and the tremolo arm has no threads. It just falls out. Did they ship me the wrong arm?
Charvel pro mod or schecter sun valley super shreddie? Which would take in a time machine to the sunset strip circa 1984?
I love you. You are the man! You are the true reviewer, brave and honest.
I've always felt Schecter needs to change their headstock font.
Yeah, it's actually a major reason I always gravitate toward something other brand. Also, I'm not a big fan of active pickups, but if it had a less tacky emo kid tattoo font on the headstock, I might be more inclined to buy one for sure.
Makisupa Policeman
Just change the pickups... lol
I have yet to understand why they didn't use the custom shop font, it would've been miles more appropriate for this type of guitar.
They REALLY need a new shape! It's too cheap/toy-like now. Should look more bold and iconic!
@@tigerbalm666 Agree. I'm tired of every NAMM show flooded with the same old "S" shaped guitars with little bit feature and color changes, i get it why people love them though. There were tons of cool shapes out there like the Firebird for example i don't know if it has something to do with legal issues?
Maybe some lemon oil on the fret board may help, if it's a natural finish maple board not a lacquered board....
hey everybody i bought this guitar and i can assure to you she's amazing. the only problem is the distance between the fretboard and the strings and essentialy begining in the 12th string. well i don't know if it's a floyd rose issue or a guitar issue. if somebody could help me this will be awesome. ps: i taked her in a luthier same problem
thanksss
Does the neck feel "thin & flat"? I tried a Schecter Traditional Custom (HSS S-type) and hated the neck - too thin & flat....
Some concerns I have about this guitar. I purchased a sun valley, but it doesn't say sun valley. It says diamond series. Did the place sell me the correct guitar? Shouldn't it say sun valley below the schecter logo by tuners instead of diamond series? Also the guitar sounds so much better in all the TH-cam videos than the one I have. The pickups do say EMG, they are zebra ones and mine is the bluish green version. It looks identical to the sun valley blue one on schecters website.
I am using a mustang GT 100 fender amp, but I just don't feel like my sustain is there on mine. Your guitar sounds so much better overall and mine is supposed to be the exact same model. Something is not right. Either I was mistakenly sold the wrong model at guitar center or perhaps the stock strings suck. Could it be it's just the battery? I have the battery it came with new. Did you have to lower the strings on yours? I wish mine had the tone, clarity, and sustain like in all the TH-cam videos, but it doesn't.
It just seems like something isn't right and it can't just be in my head. I don't see anything visibly wrong with the guitar. It does not have the clarity I was expecting or enough sustain. I prefer Iron Maiden sound or Satriani or Vai.
Yes. It IS a Sun Valley body shape, modeled after the SS of the 80's, and yes it is also a Diamond Series. "Diamond Series", is what Schecter calls all of their guitars because they are all made overseas (aside from their U.S.A. Custom Shop), Including the Sun Valley FR SS, you bought.
Thanks, I almost thought they sold me the wrong guitar.. You would think it would say Sun Valley on it somewhere, but it doesn't.
Hey henning its 629 bucks i can find faults with a 1600 dollar axe maybe u cant play a maple board it is different feel then a rosewood or ebony
I think it's METTTTAAAAALLL-week, huh? So many great and nice looking Schecter guitars! : )
(Even though I watch the videos mainly because of you, Henning. Not because of the guitars, because I'm not really into metal...)
Karolin E. but you do play guitar, do you?
Lenny W But surely I play guitar!
As I said: Metal is not my favorite genre, so I watch this video (about the Schecter guitars) just because of Henning and the information, not because I'm interested in a metal guitar.
Hi Karo!
I'd be interested in such a slick shredder guitar (if I could afford it), even though I stopped listening to METAAAAAL!!! a long time ago ; )
Nice to see you again! : )
Yeah, that's right... Why are beautiful guitars so expensive...? I can not afford such nice guitars! Live as a pupil isn't easy. Poor me! Haha!
Karolin E. alright! So what kind of music do you like/play?
Gotta love that coffee cup as well :D Where did you guys get it?
There is no lube for the strings actually..every fast fret type solution should be wiped afterwards....that's solely for cleaning the strings, but as always awesome reviews!!!
I played this guitar today...most impressive
Shredder guitars aren't my thing at all, but I love watching these unboxings. :) BTW, the oldest guitar I've seen with this style of trussrod adjuster is a mid-1960s Teisco "sharkfin" model. Teisco also did the 4+2 headstock well before MusicMan.
Looks like a Kramer Pacer with a pickguard :)
Very nice guitars!!!! Maple fret boards are a different beast and take some getting use to.
Quick question: This or the EVH Wolfgang Special for shredding?
I haven't played the EVH
In Germany they call "coffee" to java beer. Hanning exposing Schecter's guy, hmmm...
Not only exposing he's bossing on him the entire video lol
Schecter is killing the competition, they don't overcharge for their guitars unlike esp, well made, not a fan of Ernie ball strings though but great bang for the buck
Henning,
As someone who’s profession is to create and implement manufacturing processes, from highly automated and/or mechanized, to mostly handmade, and everything in between, I can tell you why that plastic covers all of those parts.
My job is as concerned with efficiency and quality as it is with the anticipation of, and prevention of, points of failure or loss. That plastic is not in place for shipping, it is there as we say, “FMP,” only... for manufacturing proposes only.
This is a concern about customer experience, absolutely. Imagine if that guitar arrives with scratches, or fingerprints, all over your pickups or that beautiful pick guard. Or worse, remnants of an employee’s lunch... after it was eaten... gross, yes. And this happened at a competitor of my former employer.
We would prefer it not be there ad well, but it is by a wide measure the lesser of two evils.
Henning,
I'm really glad you got something out of my comment, and to be honest I was quite surprised that you even would have noticed it. I have enjoyed watching, and occasionally commenting on, your content for about two years now.
You have shed light on topics about which I was curious, and introduced me to products I didn't even know existed. You have discussed not only gear and its use, but all topics, with a thoughtfulness, a level of respect or even reverence where warranted, a willingness to speak truth to those are in need of hearing a healthy dose of it, and a desire to shed light on issues of economic, political, legal, and social importance, knowing that it may alienate a segment of your potential audience, though it may also make a few of them uncomfortable enough to stop and think, if only for a moment.
You have also brought a few laughs out of me on some very difficult days and nights in the last 20 months. I thought that if I could pay that back in some small measure, and use some knowledge from my perspective, that it was the least I could do.
Keep doing what you do (that IS what she said!). Keep giving a Metalist's perspective on things that is not often enough portrayed and communicated, even on TH-cam. Say hi to Kiana, who's sexier for who she is as a person than what she looks like (and she's a little hottie).
Thank you.
Sorry, no animals at the end...
Isnt that mark tremonti after jaundice?
EytschPi42...Henning...love you man...I saw this guitar practically jumping off the wall at a Guitar Center just this past Friday night when I had a couple hours kill...took it into an amp room, hooked up to an Orange combo and...HOLY SHIT BALLS...(I think I've heard you say this American phrase)...that guitar can sing! It also clearly shreds and mixing the two volumes in the middle position gets you some killer tones! Of course I bought it! For under $600 US...are you kidding me?!?! Was actually considering the Ibanez you're in love with from Guitcon as I've been in bed is a shred machine...ok...that may be a better deal with the nice gig bag and 5 position switching...ok...I might change my mind if I ever get my haves on one...but man...really happy with this and love that color! Thanks for the great videos!
I love my tele shape shredder im just pissed at myself for going without the sustainiac!
Schecter makes awesome guitars.
Unt here on Sprockets, we dance..!
this looks tiny is this a normal size guitar?
"tree hole/branch hole" is "wood-knot" in English.
Hi Henning, zeig doch mal genau mit was du die Saiten einschmierst. Gruß aus Belgien, Rainer.
D'addario XLR8
Das hat er früher schon öfter gezeigt, is was von D'Addario ; )
Es heißt 'XLR8', scheint mir dasselbe zu sein wie das 'GHS FastFret', manche sagen das XLR8 trocknet schneller aus aber ich hab's noch nicht selber getestet.
Great Review!!! Keep On Rocking!!!!!!!
Impressive! So, can I play EVH to Santana?
I had a bit of high hopes on this Schecter model since im looking at Charvel but Fender decided it was a nice idea to bump sky high their price sky high in the past 8-12 months...
Not really convinced on what im seeing... and the 999 euros price at Thomann is really a WTF...
+mpexus that model is more expensive because of the sustainer... the ones I have here are not 999
So how much those cost?
I've sent 2 of these guitars back, poor design with major flaws in the trem system..way too much tension..strings pull out of the saddle, then right post broke through the body...this was after releasing the claw tension..nope. Shame, they look good, just can't use the Floyd...He is having the same problems..I'm sorry, I was LMAO! Back to the drawing board on these guitars. I have some great Schecter guitars..not these.
Mark Tremonti works at MusikMayer?
codecave lmfao, great call
codecave
But Mark has more hair and he has big muscles
That plastic film is on the sheet of pickguard material before the pickguard is shaped . it is absolutely necessary ,let the owner of the new guitar remove it
You know how they - once you go black, you never go back!
Ferrets in a paper bag, cute
great guitar, but man does buddy like to complain
No the distortion is surf green not seafoam green
Is that Tremonti?
NOT THE GUITAR MAKER PUTS THE PROTECTIVE PLASTIC ON THE PICK GUARD> THE PICK GUARD MAKER PUTS IT.
isnt that a kramer headstock?
RorysIrishTour it really looks like a Pacer beak headstock doesn’t it lol 😂
I'm disappointed it doesn't have a split coil ability
When I was at guitar center the string slipped on me to, also the G string
Plastic is on for the assembly process. You'd be pissed if it was scratched to shit when they screwed everything in
A non FR version would be REALLY fucking awsome.
Awesome axe. must get one.
Are you fkg kidding me!
Schecter is a guitar builder with Floyd Rose trems on his guitars and cannot even get his guitars in tune before they ship it?
"We quality check it" Hahaha! Good one !
I love Henning taking his coffee saying about the tune "We're closed" HAHAHA! even better one! Closed as about...who knows.
Love the look and the warm tone and really wanted one just before i saw that. Now,i'll go and see somewhere else.
As the great philososer John Mc Enroe used to say "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!"
Thank you very much for that vidéo that saves my money.
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Very cool
It'd be great if you can review the latest Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder 7 III guitar, which is a 7 string
looks like robins egg blue nice !
What country are these models made in?
South Korea
Guitar Anthony
Someone just told me they're made at 'World Musical Instruments', that's where all the PRS SE and Chapman guitars are made.
I think the LTD models are made there too. Makes sense since ESP and Schecter are owned by the same guy.
egregion
Yes, I think you're right, now I faintly remember seeing Schecter and ESP stuff in the video where Rob Chapman visited the WMI factory.
I'd like to find a pink note
Excellent video ... great playing the guitars sound great..
and YES SUBSCRIBE EVERYONE!!
The Floyd Rose Special is garbage. Remove the stainless steel screws and put them on a Real Floyd Rose. Tuners were ok, but i replaced them with chrome. Great guitar once dialed in. You'll need a 32mm FR brass block.
999 at Thomann?? They're supposed to be Cheaper than a Charvel. What' s up?
+Erik Hulst Thecone at Thomann has a sustainer pickup
Good review!
I spend a good time with you ;) (that's what she said)
Nice guitar!
lmao Henning trying to blame the guitar when he can,t bend and vibrato a tone bend. Just practice your bends with vibrato henning. If it was a two tone bend i could understand you having a problem . Try wide and slow, your vibrato needs variation and some work. In the uk we have a saying, a bad workman always blames his tools!
Haha, at times I also feel like his vibrato could use a bit of 'polishing' ; )
But seriously, sometimes there can be fretboards where it's actually harder to get a smooth finger vibrato than on others, I guess it's when the wood surface is quite dull.
I don't think you're supposed to oil maple fretboards so it seems in this case it only can be solved with sweating onto it from your hands ; )
Yea but Henning wasn't on about his vibrato , be claimed it was the fret board actually preventing him from going up to pitch, which is rubbish the only thing that could do that would be a high fret up the neck, usually the adjacent fret being high and the note would instantly stop as if muted. What he claimed is not possible and a weak excuse for bad technique, unless he is suggesting there is an invisible barrier , wall or step in the fret that can't be seen. I have had guitars that are harder to bend due to the frets being completely worn on very old guitars , but even guitars with old necks that have clear valleys , troughs and wear have never been a problem to bend if the frets are good. I own a few guitars including a schecter and it is an excellent guitar better built than guitars i have that were three times the price. I'd like to see him perform a tone and a half bend with a nice wide vibrato , just to prove me wrong. ;)
Of course it's possible, nothing to do with the frets, he actually clarifies that.
It's the actual wood of the board that your finger kinda get's 'stuck' on, because it can't glide over it easily for some reason, on some guitars it's velvety smooth on others it's like dry rubber, don't know why that is, it isn't even necessarily connected to the price of a guitar it seems.
His vibrato is often wonky but I guess that, and the frets, have nothing to do with what he meant there.
honestly, ive experienced this a lot, where the wood of the fretboard is like bending on sandpaper and its just disgusting to bend on, i had a cheap guitar i actually scrapped the other day for that reason, the neck was so bad among other things it wasnt worth the cost or effort to repair it, it would have cost more than the guitar itself. Ive also had this on a high end ibanez i tried in store, the guy looked at me like i was retarded when i told him it was the worst thing id ever played, it was like grinding strings on low grit sandpaper. Ive not been paying much attention to hennings bending while he plays, but i know hes a pretty damn decent player, id be surprised if he couldnt bend well xD
cheap dry rosewood boards have had this effect for me, its not impossible to bend or do vibrato but not as smooth or easy to do in a quick phrase.
Everyone look its German Mark Tremonti!
LOL seriously your buddy there looks like he could be Mark Tremonti's stunt double.
Tell chris to talk more!
how do people make this kinda money from the internet. i need this job.
It looks like SFG to me.
(Sticky Fret Board)
Sorry, meant Sticky Fret Guitar, I love the guitar too, the colour looks like my Ibanez JEM70SFG.
Only in black on the Thomann website?
You shouldn't mention their competitor directly. TH-camrs aren't very PC and that's the risk these big companies take by promoting on their Chanel .
Henning you will never review a Schecter product again.Lol
Love the color, floyds are a pain in the knob
it looks more like daphne blue