I was disappointed when I finally tried out dreams. So many tools were missing. Lasso tool, Fill reference, not being able to rearrange drawing layers (I don’t mean the tracks in the timeline), and no stabilization or customization for brushes in the app. Everything I’ve used in procreate for drawing is absent in dreams. I’m sure they’ll add these in future updates, but it just sucks that they released the app this way, especially with the twenty dollar price.
Are you seriously complaining about the price? Ok, so you can get a high end animation software for over hundreds of dollars where you get just about everything except a few tools that belong to another software. Then you can spend even more hundreds of dollars just to get what you want and still be missing some features that you need from another software. After all, $20 is too much for you. Sarcasm btw.
$20 is actually really cheap and still worth it as I mentioned in the video, I think many of our expectations just weren't set correctly for what this app is at launch. Hopefully it will improve quickly.
Of course, unfulfilled expectations ALWAYS results in breakdowns and disappointment. However, I’d rather have THIS version in my hands RIGHT NOW, than wait another 6 months for the upgrades!!
This feels like a beta build at best and I have no idea why they didn’t just wait a little longer and release it when it was complete. Mine has crashed a few times already too. Great stuff
I think they did an amazing job, despite how much they missed. After all, it is the era of sending betas out and work on it later, but I don’t really feel that. It is bare bones but I also get it. They need some money to get the right people to get what we want from the app. Honestly I hadn’t experience crashes, yet, but I’m more than sure it’ll be resolved soon.
There were right to release it. Now they have the feedback from users they need to improve it. It crashed on me a few times. Then I turned off the ability to draw with your finger so that it is Apple Pencil only. This eliminated accidental drawing and also greatly reduced the number of crashes.
I’m soooo glad they didn’t wait a moment longer to release it! I was desperate to get my hands on it, and I’m milking it for all it’s worth!!! We’ve got the rest of our lives to receive continuous updates, and I’m all here for it!
Don't worry. Procreate dreams will updated in future. My expectations was very high for dreams. I was expected drawing performance mode. But i can't find it , But i am not disappointed. It is only the beginning. The smartphone not invented in overnight. So don't be disappointed. Be always positive. I wish that procreate dreams will repair the limitations and will be a better animation app than toon squide or other animation apps. It will change the animations kingdom forever. ❤🎉 😊 🇧🇩
I really need to be able to import transparent videos. It is a part of my creative method. However, I am confident that Deams will include that feature hopefully soon because they do listen to their users.
I think they just need a manual. From the various videos I've watched so far, everybody is pretty much learning as they go. There do appear to be a lot of things you can do if you can discover how to do it with the right gesture.
They do have a handbook, it seems, on their help section of the Procreate website. However, definitely agree that they're going to need to make a more comprehensive manual (like an EPUB or Kindle manual).
It does have a manual, but you need a tutorial to find it 😂. Inside the app tap the app name, then Help Center, then Learn more, then Handbook. Angrymikko video tutorial is better though.
The problem is the app is gesture based with hidden menus. At least thats what I see. I don't know if it's user error or something else when I run into a roadblock.
Is it possible to export an animation with a transparent background? I've tried it a few times, but I always get a black background in Final Cut Pro when I import it. I've also tried every custom export setting but to no avail.
I don't believe you can edit brushes at all in Dreams, you will have to make edits in Procreate and then reimport the brushes as new brushes into Dreams... not a great solution.
when I tap to undo, it go's too fast, undoing too many steps back when i only wanted to undo 2-3 steps. is it a bug? i lost so much work and I'm so sad and frustrated...
Seems like a bug. Are you tapping and holding or just tapping? You should be able to redo by tapping with three fingers, as long as you haven’t done any new drawing after your undos.
Why is there no manual or official tutorial videos explaining how to use it? Rather there’s just the deluge of TH-camrs that got it for free doing it for them. It’s really strange
There is a manual, but it is not easy to get to, you have to tap on the name of the document, go to help, and then get taken to Safari, then click on dreams, the click on handbook. Yeah I didn't know that either...
What I don’t get is why all the pros who were testing and hyping the product before it’s release, never even bothered to mention that a number of these basic functions were missing. Quite unfortunate.
Does anybody know how to export a video with a transparent background? Cant for the life of me figure it out. And cant imagine they would have missed that.
It appears you cannot as far as I can tell, in the handbook it says "More advanced export features will be added in future releases." so keep your fingers crossed 🤞
Hi Ben, Great video 😊👍🏼 I think you forgot one: I thought this function existed in dreams but I can’t find it!! I can't export a movie with a transparent background, for example! I think it would be useful if you need to create an animation of a title and export it as a movie to use in a video editing programme like FCP or DaVinci for example 👌😔 Please tell me if you know how. 🙏 Cheers and keep up the good work on the channel 👍
Yes this seems to be an issue for a lot of people as well. I see know way to do it right now but the manual says "More advanced export features will be added in future releases."
It’s a bit clunky, but you can export as a series of images then generate the video in a diff application of your choice. Painful, but better than nothing
For "Crop Keyframing" I've seen other tutorials using masking with text and objects. Seems to work well. I don't know any other way to do it though honestly.
I really hope they can make gif images move.. That’s what I was disappointed about, I even tried dragging my character layers into the software and it didn’t work.
I'm not sure I quite understand the question, but to rotate you have to tap once on one of the selection handles, and then a tiny little gray line will appear next to that handle that you can tap and drag on to rotate.
I feel that the Procreate Dreams developers team is listening to its users to prioritize the features we need. One feature I would like to see is keying. Specifically support for videos shot with a green screen. I want my videos shot in front of a green screen to be able to display a photo or video background via keying. i tried some workarounds but they did not work. I’m hoping that will be added in an early update. …Rowby.
@@bendesignsmedia I tried doing it with a mask. I tried doing it with blend modes. Nothing worked for me. For film effects keying is really essential for mixing animation layers with green screen backgrounds.
TY for this... something I would also like to see added is an option to allow the entire timeline to play even when it is not showing on-screen because you have it zoomed-in. If you have a rather long timeline for Dreams, say 30 seconds, and multiple tracks on it where if the entire timeline length is shown on-screen the tracks are too small to work with, it requires zooming in to work with the tracks, but then to check your work in a full length playback requires zooming back out, and zooming in/out with a lot of keyframe edits is quite tedious and time-consuming. There also seems to be a bug in the track grouping feature, at least with some animations. If I have animated HSB and I group a bunch of clips, the HSB animation is lost while it is grouped and comes back when it is ungrouped. It would also be nice to be able to toggle open a group of tracks and edit them without ungrouping them first, doesn't appear this is currently possible.
Finger smudges when sketching with pencil? This is never a issue for me in procreate but panning and zooming in dreams makes me constantly erasing or undoing finger smudges. anyone else have this issue? (i know a glove would probably fix that...)
Yeah, shortcut keys and drawing animation are features that should be in the app. Others have already written how to do snapping and alignment (put down a finger of the other hand on the screen) and cropping / reveals (make a track above with a layer mask). And I have seen both being used in some tutorial. Duplicating frames in the flipbook works by touching and holding the center frame until a menu appears that contains the “duplicate” action (plus cut, copy & paste, and clear). And yep, I am not sure why, but re-arranging drawing layers doesn’t seem to work. That is also definitely not great. And there is more missing, like stabilization & motion filtering, or at least the settings for them, and effects like Gaussian Blur or Motion Blur, etc. don’t seem to be there either. The online manual exists, but it needs to be more detailed. Video and audio editing are not covered at all. And I particularly miss some succinct and to-the-point examples in there. Some how-tos. There were also no tutorials on the official Procreate channel on youtube. I only saw third party tutorials. What I also missed was a way to duplicate a range of keyframes. And I feel like setting easing between two keyframes should work on collapsed keyframe tracks as well. Edit: also, in performance mode, when I tried to grab and move around smaller objects, I would end up grabbing their bounding box somewhere, no matter how precisely I tried to pick up the middle of the object. So I ended up scaling and flipping the object instead of moving it. The only way around this was to zoom in. But that would restrict the area for moving the object around. So, animating leaves that fall through the whole height of the stage turned out harder than it needed to be. We need a modifier key that guides Procreate to select the object for movement rather than selecting its bounding box. Also, I have no idea how character rigging would work - moving a figure around that has a skeleton and some soft tissue around it. I think there may be a tutorial to watch about this. But I doubt that this is really supported in any significant way in Procreate Dreams. … Yet? On the other hand, I agree with another commenter that for a first version, Procreate Dreams is doing pretty well. It is pretty useable overall, and it implements some very helpful new concepts. But it also needs more polish and a few more features. And some of the needed features are big, like rigging. Blender on the desktop is probably one of the biggest contenders. I am generally not using the desktop much at all these days, but it appears that Blender has become much more useful, added some modern / new features and simplified a number of things. A good reason for developers to take a closer look, learn from it and then bring things to Procreate Dreams.
@@nmr7203Sorry, but I don’t follow. To move a layer inside the scene you just turn off the tools and tap anywhere in the canvas and move it. Or are you talking about something else?
I pray that future updates will get things straight. The fact that you cant move layers in drawing mode makes me crazy. The missing lasso tool males me crazy. All the thibgs you mentioned make make me crazy hahah... it really feels unready... thibgs that made procreate so amazing that would be amazing to have in an animatiin app are now missing in procreate dreams... i dont really get it tbh. It is a drawing based animation app and i cant even move things individually on a layer whilst in drawing mode ? No clipping masks IN drawing mode ?? The workflow is soooo complicated... i wasnt expwcting that to be honest because i am THE biggest procreate supporter and fan i love the app. It i am really disappointed in dreams at the moment. I reaaaaally really hope they fix all od it. Because it could be sooo amazing. I dont get it why i cant have aaall my beloved procreate features and interface in the drawing mode and then i change the mode and then get all the animation/timeline features....
I would have even paid more than 20 for such an app...,dont get me wrong dreams is a fun app for playimg around. But nothing near a professional drawing animation app.
Yes that I think is the most frustrating part, that we know they could have ported certain already developed features from Procreate and they didn't for some reason we don't understand.
As of now, I'm animating on Android. Sketchbook and FlipAClip. What FlipAClip lacks in terms of tools, I can get on Sketchbook. I imagine it can be the same on the iPad. What Dreams lacks, you can get on Procreate itself. While the new updates roll in the coming months, users can smartly use what they already have available at their reach. Of course I also want to have an iPad and Procreate Dreams, but until I can do so, I use what I have, basically, and I do it properly.
Ha you hit it on the head. For my current tools that dreams does not have that I’d like to help with work flow. Overall I enjoy it just really want these things included .
Hmmmm I’m debating if I should just do ibis paint even though they don’t got audio yet,Flipaclip even though their brushes kinda suck,or procreate dreams/procreate😭😭😭
Honestly probably depends on what you are going to do, I think if your animation relies a lot on drawing you would still need procreate dreams simply because the procreate brushes are so good and you could do all the drawing in Procreate if needed.
thanks for the helpful video! I was really excited for procreate dream as well, but after seeing your video I also feel the disappointment, gonna wait for now and see if they will update it and make the important changes :(
That’s great for you, but I bet a lot of people would like to move them in flipbook where they are actually doing the drawing and working on individual frames.
The crazy thing is the FBF mode has none (NONE) of Procreates drawing tools. Procreate’s heavenly drawing experience was what had me excited about them making an animation app. Sounds like they are only planning to add some of that stuff… Makes no sense to me… IF that’s the case(???)
I feel like there’s a lot of things missing in flip book mode. I was expecting to be able to use the tools like lasso, cut paste, warp, etc. At this point you’re only limited to drawing and erasing. I hope they ad this feature in the future.
For a first release, Dreams is utterly incredible. Compare the first release of Callipeg, Toonsquid, Rough Animation, Looom or even Animation Pro. It way better than any of those first versions, plus it's got its own format that enable infinite saving and undos. For me, I expected it to be a solid 8/10, in reality its more of a 9/10 so it exceeded my expectations. Remember, this is just the beginning.
Agreed. It does come with a learning curve though, cause I’ve seen so many comments all over the web about how it is “missing” functionality it actually has. I think it is quite brilliant for what it does, but the original Procreate is obviously better suited for complex artwork - and I think this is how it should be. 😊
This is amongst the most positive comment I seen so far. I get that we as spoiled children want a lot of things at launch, but these things take time to make solid. And especially with the workers pandemic, it’s hard to get everything done right away. Btw, what I mean by worker pandemic, I mean that no one wants to work. Period. And even if they do have work, they just quit. So it’s hard right now man….
I think the difference here is the Procreate Dreams is built on the back of Procreate, so it's seen by many as more of an evolution than a new app. I get that animation is a much more complicated field and process than drawing alone, but they should have used what they knew from procreate and from having done animation on a small scale there already.
I have faith a lot of issues will be addressed, however one of the biggest flaws i think is in the draw mode i couldn't change the layer order...if you sketched your image, you'd have to color on that layer or above it
It will be better in future versions, better experiment now and welcome new features later. But when animators are doing classic Disney quality shorts we know that what is left is for us to do the best we can with the tool.
To my understanding, they mentioned a lot of the things that were mentioned as missing Dreams. Can actually be done in Procreate itself, then exported over to Dreams. I know it's inconvenient, but at least it's possible. I'm sure they'll make it way more convenient in the future.
Thats the thing. The app is twice as expensive as toonsquid, but has a lot less features. Im starting to come around to it. But not have an editable oen pressure curve and not being able to set a reference layer for line art is ridiculous
@@Tonabillity if that was the case, maybe they should've made dreams as an add on purchase to procreate instead of a separate app, if they didn't intend for it to function like a separate app
5:15 I'm not sure if I really understand your issue, but you can maybe find your answer to this watching the JAMES HANCE vid about making frame by frame animation. He posted it a day ago. And yes, I'm not purchasing Procreate Dreams yet, for the moment Im also a little bit desapointed.. I prefer to wait and see how it evolves. Thanks for your sharing !
I'm frustrated also, but always when learning a new App. I never used procreate so whoever has could be disappointed. But I am confident that it will improve over time. I am an avid user of sketchbook, it is a pure drawing app, few bells and whistles but it is made for the artist. Now that combined with procreate and dreams i have the best of all worlds. I use sketchbook to draw, then move it to procreate to edit layers and finally into dreams. we have a long way to go. I want to run back to FlipaClip but wont allow myself to be conquered. Although i made some really nice animations in flipaclip. they are all here on youtube
You are correct that learning a new software always comes with challenges. I think you might have an even better time if you switch over to Procreate for drawing, even though that would be learning two softwares at once.
well it was never meant to be full featured there, but you could do things there, like reorganize your frames, that you can't do in flip book mode in dreams
isnt it in beta it like came out 2 days ago and i am loving this app so much they're going to add tons more soon we just gotta work with what we have rn i dont even find anything bad about it i literally love it so much thats it
It’s a little confusing seeing professionals in various places today complaining of lack of specific features. I was under the impression that Procreate was not exactly a professional tool, but rather one that can make beginners feel confident and provide many features of professional software that pros might use for light duty work or just the creative process. Since I’m very new I may be misunderstanding or lack knowledge of what exactly people were expecting from Dreams especially as Savage have said there is more to come and we all know they keep adding to Procreate. Because Dreams came out I realized I could fulfill a childhood dream of being able to animate. I’m only two days into my journey so I am unaware of much of the software available. But I have used Photoshop professionally, and Illustrator for years, and Procreate definitely lacs the precision needed for what I used to do. However Procreate has been very freeing and enjoyable in a way I had not ever experienced before and I’m hoping Dreams will provide that as well.
Procreate has been being used by professional Illustrators, concepts artists, and animators for years, because it is so much better for drawing than Photoshop is, so I think to say it is not professional is a disservice to it.
I think it's a great app that's just missing some quality-of-life features. Like switching brush/eraser by tapping the Apple Pencil, referencing line-art layer to put fills on it's own layer, and being able to quickly fill multiple layers at once. Like imagine if you could just fill-in closed lines frame-by-frame really quickly to fill stuff in. Or maybe even fill-in multiple overlapping drawings all at once. Adding colors is a very tedious part of animation that I think Dreams could definitely innovate on if they wanted to. There is one strange bug where if you zoom far out your brush gets really blurry. That's simply unacceptable for an app that changes your canvas real-estate all the time.
Keyboard controls is definitely not needed…. Snapping is included already… I think everyone was expecting procreate but added animation… it’s not.. is specifically a different beast… grow your skill levels
Believe it or not I have been learning and teaching new software professionally for about 10 years, I think if I am struggling with it there is a good chance that many people are. Keyboard controls really are something that an animation app should have, there is just a lot going on to force people to use touch alone. Obviously snapping is included which a lot of people have mentioned, but it wasn't obvious even to an experienced iPad software user how to do it. If they didn't want us to expect it to be like Procreate they shouldn't have used the procreate name.
Loving Procreate Dreams so far!! Its amazing and just gonna get better and better! Re the draw on arrow you said, you just make a new track! No need to draw every frame!
Also why is the timeline so ugly and hard to see? Why has the app frozen on me multiple times? Why can’t you distort or warp things drawn with the smoke brush?
U can't import your own brushes or rearrange layers, or move multiple keyframes at the same time. There is no alpha lock, no quick shapes, and no lasso tool. Importing a procreate file does not preserve layers. That's just a few things I have noticed after using it for 15 minutes. Maybe it's all just well hidden, but my experience was disappointing.
I did figure out how to import brushes, you have to drag a brush file into the app and they will be imported, which is fine but there should also be a menu option for that.
@@short-lived9671 How is it absurd to want a complete product at launch? Especially when the missing features are things they already had in a previous app? ToonSquid has more features for half the price and it's made by one guy. If he can do it, why can't they?
I assume you mean aftereffects, I know how to use AfterEffects, but I can't use it on my iPad, and I don't like subscription software, and AfterEffects runs like molasses on most machines.
@@bendesignsmedia So you go to Resolve. Procreate dreams looks awesome, and is for drawing, and really cheap. In your video you sound like you want a regular computer and a composition program, not a 2d tradicional animation software for artist.
@@elcubofilosofico I literally use DaVinci Resolve every day. Procreate Dreams is not for drawing, that much is apparent by how many things are left out from Procreate that are for drawing. Also you realize there is no such thing as traditional 2D animation software right? if we wanted to do it traditionally we wouldn't be using software, we'd be using paper...
typical apple exclusive app😂 they shouldve improved procreate’s animation assist instead of making a nightmare app, im using toonsquid, the only good thing about dreams based on honest reviews in appstore and nonbiased youtubers is the drag and drop file transfer😂 thats not convenient from procreate to toonsquid, i just wish dreams is a better app than toonsquid😢
I don't think it has anything to do with being apple exclusive, if anything that should make development easier not having to worry about multiple platforms.
meanwhile…while you’re lamenting the odds and ends that PDreams didn’t get quite right to satisfy a seasoned motion graphics person…tens of thousands of young folk are getting to it with the app & creating imaginative content that will leave weak creators in the digital dust.
For $20 it's the best suit for traditional animation with such a low price tag. The young generation doesn't seem to understand what traditional animation is and how traditional 2d cartoons and movies where made, now just transferred to a digital pad. Stop complaining and understand how traditional animation is done.
I actually do understand how traditional animation is done (and I'm not that young) but we are using a digital tool here so it would be nice to have the digital features (especially ones that have already been developed in Procreate)
The frame by frame in original procreate is garbage and impossible for timing or adjusting timing. Acting like this is the same thing as procreate original is inaccurate. I’m not using a keyboard.
I’m not saying it is the same, I’m saying they should have at least brought over all the features that procreate already had. You might notice I said MANY people use keyboards, not EVERYONE uses a keyboard. I said it should be touch focused, but also have keyboard commands.
Maybe you missed the title completely, the point of the video was to talk about 5 things that procreate dreams is missing, which I believe is exactly what the video does...
I disagree, we are talking about a different type of application here now that we are in animation and not having keyboard controls is a big oversight, particularly not even being able to hit space bar to play, that is pretty basic.
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I was disappointed when I finally tried out dreams. So many tools were missing. Lasso tool, Fill reference, not being able to rearrange drawing layers (I don’t mean the tracks in the timeline), and no stabilization or customization for brushes in the app. Everything I’ve used in procreate for drawing is absent in dreams. I’m sure they’ll add these in future updates, but it just sucks that they released the app this way, especially with the twenty dollar price.
I agree
Are you seriously complaining about the price? Ok, so you can get a high end animation software for over hundreds of dollars where you get just about everything except a few tools that belong to another software. Then you can spend even more hundreds of dollars just to get what you want and still be missing some features that you need from another software. After all, $20 is too much for you.
Sarcasm btw.
$20 is actually really cheap and still worth it as I mentioned in the video, I think many of our expectations just weren't set correctly for what this app is at launch. Hopefully it will improve quickly.
Of course, unfulfilled expectations ALWAYS results in breakdowns and disappointment.
However, I’d rather have THIS version in my hands RIGHT NOW, than wait another 6 months for the upgrades!!
@@TheLuconictoonsquid is $10, one payment too, and has all the tools dreams is missing rn, not to mention it was made by one dev and not a company
Snapping: place a finger on the screen while moving an image with the pencil.
Thanks! I was trying to remember that. My first tutorial video mentioned this.
Yeah I saw someone do this .
Ah, thanks I should have thought of that
This feels like a beta build at best and I have no idea why they didn’t just wait a little longer and release it when it was complete. Mine has crashed a few times already too. Great stuff
I think they did an amazing job, despite how much they missed. After all, it is the era of sending betas out and work on it later, but I don’t really feel that. It is bare bones but I also get it. They need some money to get the right people to get what we want from the app. Honestly I hadn’t experience crashes, yet, but I’m more than sure it’ll be resolved soon.
Yeah I think maybe they just weren't quite ready and got ahead of themselves.
There were right to release it. Now they have the feedback from users they need to improve it.
It crashed on me a few times. Then I turned off the ability to draw with your finger so that it is Apple Pencil only. This eliminated accidental drawing and also greatly reduced the number of crashes.
I’m soooo glad they didn’t wait a moment longer to release it!
I was desperate to get my hands on it, and I’m milking it for all it’s worth!!!
We’ve got the rest of our lives to receive continuous updates, and I’m all here for it!
Don't worry. Procreate dreams will updated in future. My expectations was very high for dreams. I was expected drawing performance mode. But i can't find it , But i am not disappointed. It is only the beginning. The smartphone not invented in overnight. So don't be disappointed. Be always positive. I wish that procreate dreams will repair the limitations and will be a better animation app than toon squide or other animation apps. It will change the animations kingdom forever. ❤🎉 😊 🇧🇩
I hope so!
My expectations were low and I was still disappointed
@@nmr7203 It’s the app that Disney animators use. That’s ALL I needed to know!
The only thing that I really hated was the loss of the Apple Pencil toggling feature.✍🏽
And they just fixed that two days ago!
I’m stoked!!
@@Tonabillity Do you mean the double-tap to erase/brush?? I need to find the update for this then!!
Also you can't import transparent videos
And when importing image sequences they don't follow the right order
Unfortunately it seems like you need to import the file itself, since drag and drop all the image just compressed them into one track :/
Yeah, that is a problem too
I really need to be able to import transparent videos. It is a part of my creative method.
However, I am confident that Deams will include that feature hopefully soon because they do listen to their users.
All points are valid. For me as a motion designer, I miss a graph editor for the keyframes the most.
Yes, although I didn't exactly expect a graph editor at launch it would be nice to see in the future.
Workaround for cropping: layer mask on the track above.
True, good point
i miss transform tools, so sad using this mature apps
yeah transform tools are more limited here than they were in Procreate.
I think they just need a manual. From the various videos I've watched so far, everybody is pretty much learning as they go. There do appear to be a lot of things you can do if you can discover how to do it with the right gesture.
I’m agree with you, I watched a few videos already, and there is a lot to explore
They do have a handbook, it seems, on their help section of the Procreate website. However, definitely agree that they're going to need to make a more comprehensive manual (like an EPUB or Kindle manual).
doesn't procreate dreams already have a manual
It does have a manual, but you need a tutorial to find it 😂. Inside the app tap the app name, then Help Center, then Learn more, then Handbook. Angrymikko video tutorial is better though.
There is a manual and its searchable by keyword and topic
The problem is the app is gesture based with hidden menus. At least thats what I see. I don't know if it's user error or something else when I run into a roadblock.
I agree, there is a lot that is hidden, which we will get used to eventually once we find it.
Not being able to export videos with transparence is a big problem too tbh
yeah that is an issue, I haven't tried yet but LumaFusion can do it so you would think that Dreams could do it too
Is it possible to export an animation with a transparent background? I've tried it a few times, but I always get a black background in Final Cut Pro when I import it. I've also tried every custom export setting but to no avail.
Have not been able to find a way yet. A lot of folks are asking for this one so I hope it comes soon.
I was also disappointed. Toonsquid is superior in every way! And very intuitive.
Toonsquid has been out longer though, so we shouldn't forget that
My one question is does anyone know how to edit brush sensitivity, stabilization and pressure
I can't seem to edit the brushes
I don't believe you can edit brushes at all in Dreams, you will have to make edits in Procreate and then reimport the brushes as new brushes into Dreams... not a great solution.
when I tap to undo, it go's too fast, undoing too many steps back when i only wanted to undo 2-3 steps. is it a bug? i lost so much work and I'm so sad and frustrated...
Seems like a bug. Are you tapping and holding or just tapping? You should be able to redo by tapping with three fingers, as long as you haven’t done any new drawing after your undos.
Why is there no manual or official tutorial videos explaining how to use it? Rather there’s just the deluge of TH-camrs that got it for free doing it for them. It’s really strange
There is a manual, but it is not easy to get to, you have to tap on the name of the document, go to help, and then get taken to Safari, then click on dreams, the click on handbook. Yeah I didn't know that either...
What I don’t get is why all the pros who were testing and hyping the product before it’s release, never even bothered to mention that a number of these basic functions were missing. Quite unfortunate.
I think it really just depends on your perspective and what you are trying to animate. Brad Colbow was pretty honest in his assessment.
does anyone know how to access symmetry mode in dreams??
Nope, I'm guessing you can't and to do that you will need to draw in Procreate.
Does anybody know how to export a video with a transparent background? Cant for the life of me figure it out. And cant imagine they would have missed that.
It appears you cannot as far as I can tell, in the handbook it says "More advanced export features will be added in future releases." so keep your fingers crossed 🤞
Thanks! Seems like such a basic feature… lookign forward to that i guess. @@bendesignsmedia
Can we flip layer order in drawing layers?
nope...guess you have to draw it all right in procreate first...
I'm just beginning to animate in very simple ways but I appreciate you explaining these things as it adds to my knowledge base for animation.
Welcome, I hope you have fun animating!
Perfect summary. I bought it thinking it was going to be amazing and it wasn't. Went back to toon squid and Callipeg and what a joy it was.
I'm glad you have something that is working for you! Hopefully dreams will improve and get you to come back eventually.
Hi Ben, Great video 😊👍🏼
I think you forgot one:
I thought this function existed in dreams but I can’t find it!!
I can't export a movie with a transparent background, for example!
I think it would be useful if you need to create an animation of a title and export it as a movie to use in a video editing programme like FCP or DaVinci for example 👌😔
Please tell me if you know how. 🙏
Cheers and keep up the good work on the channel 👍
Yes this seems to be an issue for a lot of people as well. I see know way to do it right now but the manual says "More advanced export features will be added in future releases."
It’s a bit clunky, but you can export as a series of images then generate the video in a diff application of your choice. Painful, but better than nothing
For "Crop Keyframing" I've seen other tutorials using masking with text and objects. Seems to work well. I don't know any other way to do it though honestly.
Yeah I'm sure I can do it this way. It would just be much easier to keyframe a crop directly on the track itself.
I really hope they can make gif images move.. That’s what I was disappointed about, I even tried dragging my character layers into the software and it didn’t work.
Hmm...yeah I hadn't tried that
I still don’t get how to rotate, besides the key frame axis
I'm not sure I quite understand the question, but to rotate you have to tap once on one of the selection handles, and then a tiny little gray line will appear next to that handle that you can tap and drag on to rotate.
@@bendesignsmedia yea somehow it finally rotated. Thank you. I’ll look for a little gray line
I know how to duplicate but not move. If you hold the frame you want to dup the option comes up
Yep, unfortunately it's not that useful if you can't move it
I feel that the Procreate Dreams developers team is listening to its users to prioritize the features we need. One feature I would like to see is keying. Specifically support for videos shot with a green screen. I want my videos shot in front of a green screen to be able to display a photo or video background via keying. i tried some workarounds but they did not work. I’m hoping that will be added in an early update. …Rowby.
That actually sounds kinda cool. Is there a tutorial on that or did you make a vid so I can learn how to work this?
Oh yeah I should have mentioned keying, can't believe we don't have that. Can we do it with a mask?
@@bendesignsmedia I tried doing it with a mask. I tried doing it with blend modes. Nothing worked for me. For film effects keying is really essential for mixing animation layers with green screen backgrounds.
TY for this... something I would also like to see added is an option to allow the entire timeline to play even when it is not showing on-screen because you have it zoomed-in. If you have a rather long timeline for Dreams, say 30 seconds, and multiple tracks on it where if the entire timeline length is shown on-screen the tracks are too small to work with, it requires zooming in to work with the tracks, but then to check your work in a full length playback requires zooming back out, and zooming in/out with a lot of keyframe edits is quite tedious and time-consuming.
There also seems to be a bug in the track grouping feature, at least with some animations. If I have animated HSB and I group a bunch of clips, the HSB animation is lost while it is grouped and comes back when it is ungrouped. It would also be nice to be able to toggle open a group of tracks and edit them without ungrouping them first, doesn't appear this is currently possible.
You are welcome, I agree with your suggestions as well.
Im also disappointed they don’t have rig or puppet rig lol
That would be nice, but I wasn't expecting it
Finger smudges when sketching with pencil? This is never a issue for me in procreate but panning and zooming in dreams makes me constantly erasing or undoing finger smudges. anyone else have this issue? (i know a glove would probably fix that...)
Turning off “enable painting with finger” would probably take care of this (tap the animation name to see the settings).
Perfect, Thank you@@tbenjaminlarsen
Yeah I've had some trouble with that too.
Yeah, shortcut keys and drawing animation are features that should be in the app. Others have already written how to do snapping and alignment (put down a finger of the other hand on the screen) and cropping / reveals (make a track above with a layer mask). And I have seen both being used in some tutorial. Duplicating frames in the flipbook works by touching and holding the center frame until a menu appears that contains the “duplicate” action (plus cut, copy & paste, and clear). And yep, I am not sure why, but re-arranging drawing layers doesn’t seem to work. That is also definitely not great. And there is more missing, like stabilization & motion filtering, or at least the settings for them, and effects like Gaussian Blur or Motion Blur, etc. don’t seem to be there either.
The online manual exists, but it needs to be more detailed. Video and audio editing are not covered at all. And I particularly miss some succinct and to-the-point examples in there. Some how-tos. There were also no tutorials on the official Procreate channel on youtube. I only saw third party tutorials.
What I also missed was a way to duplicate a range of keyframes. And I feel like setting easing between two keyframes should work on collapsed keyframe tracks as well.
Edit: also, in performance mode, when I tried to grab and move around smaller objects, I would end up grabbing their bounding box somewhere, no matter how precisely I tried to pick up the middle of the object. So I ended up scaling and flipping the object instead of moving it. The only way around this was to zoom in. But that would restrict the area for moving the object around. So, animating leaves that fall through the whole height of the stage turned out harder than it needed to be. We need a modifier key that guides Procreate to select the object for movement rather than selecting its bounding box.
Also, I have no idea how character rigging would work - moving a figure around that has a skeleton and some soft tissue around it. I think there may be a tutorial to watch about this. But I doubt that this is really supported in any significant way in Procreate Dreams. … Yet?
On the other hand, I agree with another commenter that for a first version, Procreate Dreams is doing pretty well. It is pretty useable overall, and it implements some very helpful new concepts. But it also needs more polish and a few more features. And some of the needed features are big, like rigging.
Blender on the desktop is probably one of the biggest contenders. I am generally not using the desktop much at all these days, but it appears that Blender has become much more useful, added some modern / new features and simplified a number of things. A good reason for developers to take a closer look, learn from it and then bring things to Procreate Dreams.
Great points! Thanks for watching.
I expect it will improve over time. I would like an easier solution to making hierarchies to rig puppets.
yeah, let's hope so
Procreate Dreams sucks. This app lacks important features required for creating animations. And especially i dont like the interface.
No lasso at drawing mode?
I think “sucks” is pretty unfair…
@tbenjaminlarsen Mate. You have to through extra steps just to move layers around.
@@nmr7203Sorry, but I don’t follow. To move a layer inside the scene you just turn off the tools and tap anywhere in the canvas and move it. Or are you talking about something else?
@@tbenjaminlarsen No, i mean the order of the layers.
I pray that future updates will get things straight. The fact that you cant move layers in drawing mode makes me crazy. The missing lasso tool males me crazy. All the thibgs you mentioned make make me crazy hahah... it really feels unready... thibgs that made procreate so amazing that would be amazing to have in an animatiin app are now missing in procreate dreams... i dont really get it tbh. It is a drawing based animation app and i cant even move things individually on a layer whilst in drawing mode ? No clipping masks IN drawing mode ?? The workflow is soooo complicated... i wasnt expwcting that to be honest because i am THE biggest procreate supporter and fan i love the app. It i am really disappointed in dreams at the moment. I reaaaaally really hope they fix all od it. Because it could be sooo amazing. I dont get it why i cant have aaall my beloved procreate features and interface in the drawing mode and then i change the mode and then get all the animation/timeline features....
I would have even paid more than 20 for such an app...,dont get me wrong dreams is a fun app for playimg around. But nothing near a professional drawing animation app.
Yes that I think is the most frustrating part, that we know they could have ported certain already developed features from Procreate and they didn't for some reason we don't understand.
As of now, I'm animating on Android. Sketchbook and FlipAClip. What FlipAClip lacks in terms of tools, I can get on Sketchbook. I imagine it can be the same on the iPad. What Dreams lacks, you can get on Procreate itself. While the new updates roll in the coming months, users can smartly use what they already have available at their reach. Of course I also want to have an iPad and Procreate Dreams, but until I can do so, I use what I have, basically, and I do it properly.
I hope you get an iPad someday!
Ha you hit it on the head. For my current tools that dreams does not have that I’d like to help with work flow. Overall I enjoy it just really want these things included .
Yeah, it will be good to see where they take it
Hmmmm I’m debating if I should just do ibis paint even though they don’t got audio yet,Flipaclip even though their brushes kinda suck,or procreate dreams/procreate😭😭😭
Honestly probably depends on what you are going to do, I think if your animation relies a lot on drawing you would still need procreate dreams simply because the procreate brushes are so good and you could do all the drawing in Procreate if needed.
thanks for the helpful video! I was really excited for procreate dream as well, but after seeing your video I also feel the disappointment, gonna wait for now and see if they will update it and make the important changes :(
Yeah that may be best depending on your needs
I’m more likely to move frames in timeline. Procreate is an art app so this is a 2D animation app not an after effects app
That’s great for you, but I bet a lot of people would like to move them in flipbook where they are actually doing the drawing and working on individual frames.
Hold one finger drag to the right is screen to centre
Thanks good to know.
The crazy thing is the FBF mode has none (NONE) of Procreates drawing tools. Procreate’s heavenly drawing experience was what had me excited about them making an animation app. Sounds like they are only planning to add some of that stuff… Makes no sense to me… IF that’s the case(???)
Yeah I'm not sure, I was expecting most of the Procreate stuff to be there as well.
I feel like there’s a lot of things missing in flip book mode. I was expecting to be able to use the tools like lasso, cut paste, warp, etc. At this point you’re only limited to drawing and erasing. I hope they ad this feature in the future.
Yes me too. I think lasso makes a big difference in being able to animate specific parts of a drawing
@@bendesignsmedia I went on the Procreate Folio community forum and they mentioned that they will be adding these features in future updates.
My biggest issue is the drawing assist items like holding to get a straight line or curve. That is very annoying.
good point
For a first release, Dreams is utterly incredible. Compare the first release of Callipeg, Toonsquid, Rough Animation, Looom or even Animation Pro. It way better than any of those first versions, plus it's got its own format that enable infinite saving and undos. For me, I expected it to be a solid 8/10, in reality its more of a 9/10 so it exceeded my expectations. Remember, this is just the beginning.
Animation Pro has recently had a really great update but likely gone under peoples radar.
Agreed. It does come with a learning curve though, cause I’ve seen so many comments all over the web about how it is “missing” functionality it actually has.
I think it is quite brilliant for what it does, but the original Procreate is obviously better suited for complex artwork - and I think this is how it should be. 😊
This is amongst the most positive comment I seen so far. I get that we as spoiled children want a lot of things at launch, but these things take time to make solid. And especially with the workers pandemic, it’s hard to get everything done right away.
Btw, what I mean by worker pandemic, I mean that no one wants to work. Period. And even if they do have work, they just quit. So it’s hard right now man….
I think the difference here is the Procreate Dreams is built on the back of Procreate, so it's seen by many as more of an evolution than a new app. I get that animation is a much more complicated field and process than drawing alone, but they should have used what they knew from procreate and from having done animation on a small scale there already.
Snapping is a finger gesture
Thanks I should have realized that
I have faith a lot of issues will be addressed, however one of the biggest flaws i think is in the draw mode i couldn't change the layer order...if you sketched your image, you'd have to color on that layer or above it
Yeah a lot of folks have been saying that, that must be a bug
It will be better in future versions, better experiment now and welcome new features later. But when animators are doing classic Disney quality shorts we know that what is left is for us to do the best we can with the tool.
Sure, but that doesn't mean we can't ask for better
@@bendesignsmedia yeah but that’s a given. It’s version 1.0 and there are a lot of requests. Many will come soon for sure.
@@manart6506I hope so
Snapping can be invoked by holding a finger on the stage
Thanks I should have tried that
To my understanding, they mentioned a lot of the things that were mentioned as missing Dreams. Can actually be done in Procreate itself, then exported over to Dreams. I know it's inconvenient, but at least it's possible. I'm sure they'll make it way more convenient in the future.
Thats the thing. The app is twice as expensive as toonsquid, but has a lot less features. Im starting to come around to it. But not have an editable oen pressure curve and not being able to set a reference layer for line art is ridiculous
It does make you wonder if they’re trying to avoid cannibalizing, Procreate, making it obsolete 🤔
@@Tonabillity if that was the case, maybe they should've made dreams as an add on purchase to procreate instead of a separate app, if they didn't intend for it to function like a separate app
@@christianr.5868 If dreams had every single function of Procreate, why would anyone want to buy, or use Procreate anymore? 🤷🏾
yeah I just assumed that since drawing mode looks so much like Procreate that it would have most of the same tools and features.
2:18
5:15 I'm not sure if I really understand your issue, but you can maybe find your answer to this watching the JAMES HANCE vid about making frame by frame animation. He posted it a day ago.
And yes, I'm not purchasing Procreate Dreams yet, for the moment Im also a little bit desapointed.. I prefer to wait and see how it evolves. Thanks for your sharing !
Thanks, I'll have to check it out.
Callipeg is maybe better for now
Worst app ever.
I haven't tried that one
2:15 the video starts
I mean yeah, if you don't care about context
A UNDO BUTTON & REDO BUTTON 😭
I guess they just really like gestures
I'm frustrated also, but always when learning a new App. I never used procreate so whoever has could be disappointed. But I am confident that it will improve over time. I am an avid user of sketchbook, it is a pure drawing app, few bells and whistles but it is made for the artist. Now that combined with procreate and dreams i have the best of all worlds. I use sketchbook to draw, then move it to procreate to edit layers and finally into dreams. we have a long way to go. I want to run back to FlipaClip but wont allow myself to be conquered. Although i made some really nice animations in flipaclip. they are all here on youtube
You are correct that learning a new software always comes with challenges. I think you might have an even better time if you switch over to Procreate for drawing, even though that would be learning two softwares at once.
to say we had good frame by frame animation in procreate is just wrong
well it was never meant to be full featured there, but you could do things there, like reorganize your frames, that you can't do in flip book mode in dreams
isnt it in beta it like came out 2 days ago and i am loving this app so much
they're going to add tons more soon we just gotta work with what we have rn
i dont even find anything bad about it i literally love it so much
thats it
No this is a full release, there was a closed beta before.
procreate dreams is totally worth it to me even with some lacking features, I'm already making a cool animatic in it :)
Yeah still worth it because it is quite cheap!
the snapping exists, place a finger on the canvas while you move the element. it could definitely be improved but it works ^^
Thanks, that is what I needed to know!
It’s a little confusing seeing professionals in various places today complaining of lack of specific features. I was under the impression that Procreate was not exactly a professional tool, but rather one that can make beginners feel confident and provide many features of professional software that pros might use for light duty work or just the creative process. Since I’m very new I may be misunderstanding or lack knowledge of what exactly people were expecting from Dreams especially as Savage have said there is more to come and we all know they keep adding to Procreate.
Because Dreams came out I realized I could fulfill a childhood dream of being able to animate. I’m only two days into my journey so I am unaware of much of the software available. But I have used Photoshop professionally, and Illustrator for years, and Procreate definitely lacs the precision needed for what I used to do. However Procreate has been very freeing and enjoyable in a way I had not ever experienced before and I’m hoping Dreams will provide that as well.
Procreate has been being used by professional Illustrators, concepts artists, and animators for years, because it is so much better for drawing than Photoshop is, so I think to say it is not professional is a disservice to it.
I think it's a great app that's just missing some quality-of-life features. Like switching brush/eraser by tapping the Apple Pencil, referencing line-art layer to put fills on it's own layer, and being able to quickly fill multiple layers at once. Like imagine if you could just fill-in closed lines frame-by-frame really quickly to fill stuff in. Or maybe even fill-in multiple overlapping drawings all at once. Adding colors is a very tedious part of animation that I think Dreams could definitely innovate on if they wanted to.
There is one strange bug where if you zoom far out your brush gets really blurry. That's simply unacceptable for an app that changes your canvas real-estate all the time.
I haven't seen that bug, but I'll watch out for it
They need boning too
Would be nice, not something that I would have expected in the first release but I would hope they are working on it
Keyboard controls is definitely not needed…. Snapping is included already… I think everyone was expecting procreate but added animation… it’s not.. is specifically a different beast… grow your skill levels
Believe it or not I have been learning and teaching new software professionally for about 10 years, I think if I am struggling with it there is a good chance that many people are. Keyboard controls really are something that an animation app should have, there is just a lot going on to force people to use touch alone. Obviously snapping is included which a lot of people have mentioned, but it wasn't obvious even to an experienced iPad software user how to do it. If they didn't want us to expect it to be like Procreate they shouldn't have used the procreate name.
Loving Procreate Dreams so far!! Its amazing and just gonna get better and better! Re the draw on arrow you said, you just make a new track! No need to draw every frame!
You missed his point completely
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by that, I'm talking about drawing an arrow and having that drawing recorded as an animation.
Also why is the timeline so ugly and hard to see? Why has the app frozen on me multiple times? Why can’t you distort or warp things drawn with the smoke brush?
hmm...haven't tried the smoke brush so I didn't know about that. What iPad are you running it on?
@@bendesignsmedia iPad pro 12.9 inch 4th generation. It has locked up every time I've used it for longer than a few minutes
@@killustrator well that shouldn't be case, for sure. have you tried reinstalling it?
Give it time
Oh I will
The way Procreate Dreams is barebones it made me work with my limitations and adjust to my mistake’s which is helping me learn better as an artist
Good I'm glad it is working for you
U can't import your own brushes or rearrange layers, or move multiple keyframes at the same time. There is no alpha lock, no quick shapes, and no lasso tool. Importing a procreate file does not preserve layers. That's just a few things I have noticed after using it for 15 minutes. Maybe it's all just well hidden, but my experience was disappointing.
I did figure out how to import brushes, you have to drag a brush file into the app and they will be imported, which is fine but there should also be a menu option for that.
Lol. Everyone complaining even though it's the first release. Expect updates coming to improve the app...
Well I felt that I needed to since I had hyped it so much before launch.
Customers don't want updates. They want all of the features to be there at launch. Otherwise, don't release it until it's fully complete.
@@nonyabusiness3619 LOL. realize the absurdity of your comment.
@@short-lived9671 How is it absurd to want a complete product at launch? Especially when the missing features are things they already had in a previous app? ToonSquid has more features for half the price and it's made by one guy. If he can do it, why can't they?
Dude just go to AF
I assume you mean aftereffects, I know how to use AfterEffects, but I can't use it on my iPad, and I don't like subscription software, and AfterEffects runs like molasses on most machines.
@@bendesignsmedia So you go to Resolve. Procreate dreams looks awesome, and is for drawing, and really cheap. In your video you sound like you want a regular computer and a composition program, not a 2d tradicional animation software for artist.
@@elcubofilosofico I literally use DaVinci Resolve every day. Procreate Dreams is not for drawing, that much is apparent by how many things are left out from Procreate that are for drawing. Also you realize there is no such thing as traditional 2D animation software right? if we wanted to do it traditionally we wouldn't be using software, we'd be using paper...
@@bendesignsmedia Just keep doing it, you are so professional and expert in programs. can't wait for another video
typical apple exclusive app😂 they shouldve improved procreate’s animation assist instead of making a nightmare app, im using toonsquid, the only good thing about dreams based on honest reviews in appstore and nonbiased youtubers is the drag and drop file transfer😂 thats not convenient from procreate to toonsquid, i just wish dreams is a better app than toonsquid😢
I don't think it has anything to do with being apple exclusive, if anything that should make development easier not having to worry about multiple platforms.
meanwhile…while you’re lamenting the odds and ends that PDreams didn’t get quite right to satisfy a seasoned motion graphics person…tens of thousands of young folk are getting to it with the app & creating imaginative content that will leave weak creators in the digital dust.
That's great, but it's my job to tell people what I think, particularly when I had already hyped up the program before launch
For $20 it's the best suit for traditional animation with such a low price tag.
The young generation doesn't seem to understand what traditional animation is and how traditional 2d cartoons and movies where made, now just transferred to a digital pad. Stop complaining and understand how traditional animation is done.
I actually do understand how traditional animation is done (and I'm not that young) but we are using a digital tool here so it would be nice to have the digital features (especially ones that have already been developed in Procreate)
Toonsquid cost just 9$ and it is far better than Procreate Dream.
The frame by frame in the original procreate is garbage.
At least you could adjust where each frame was though...now you have to switch back out to the timeline and zoom way in.
The frame by frame in original procreate is garbage and impossible for timing or adjusting timing. Acting like this is the same thing as procreate original is inaccurate. I’m not using a keyboard.
I’m not saying it is the same, I’m saying they should have at least brought over all the features that procreate already had.
You might notice I said MANY people use keyboards, not EVERYONE uses a keyboard. I said it should be touch focused, but also have keyboard commands.
This video misses the point completely.
Maybe you missed the title completely, the point of the video was to talk about 5 things that procreate dreams is missing, which I believe is exactly what the video does...
Procreate has always been a gesture app, so complaining about no keyboard stuff is ridiculous, just use gestures.
I disagree, we are talking about a different type of application here now that we are in animation and not having keyboard controls is a big oversight, particularly not even being able to hit space bar to play, that is pretty basic.
why don't YOU make a better one?
Then I wouldn't have time to make TH-cam videos!