Brass Band Documentary 1977 BBC Omnibus Andre Previn (complete)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2022
- This is a 'classic' documentary - here complete - featuring famed orchestral conductor and composer Andre Previn - then of the London Symphony Orchestra - in his discovery of the brass band. The video also features footage of composer Edward Gregson working with legendary tubist John Fletcher on the premiere of his TUBA CONCERTO.
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Fond memories! I was assistant film cameraman on this doc. One thing I recall is that AP refused to conduct either band. He was there solely as a presenter and felt it would be disrespectful. We were rigging lights and camera positions on a Saturday morning, in the suburbs of Manchester, for the filming of an afternoon concert. No time to break for lunch. André asked Peter Bartlett , my boss, if he was hungry. Peter explained that we all were! André trudged over the muddy bombsite in the drizzle (site of a new Motorway) on his own, entered a nearby Wimpy, and bought, if memory serves, 10 or 11 burgers and drinks, precariously carrying everything back to us in a cardboard box. Very recognisable from BBC, his appearances caused a bit of a stir in the Wimpy bar
Always respected Previn as the complete musician but your story speaks volumes about the man. Thanks.
Great video - thank you very much for posting!
Have never seen this documentary before, but it is a dream come true. Thankyou for posting this.
I have seen this before but it's a brilliant video . I think I could name every Black Dyke Mills player in this where as today (as in a lot of top bands ) there are that many changes from month to month it's not quite the same in my opinion .
First time I've ever seen this - great to see and hear the master that was John Fletcher (GOAT ?) in the first half along with Dyke in the second half. I was 16 & a young Euphonium player when this was made - many of the names were well known by me & had pleasure of spending a weekend with Edward Gregson in the early 80's at the Lancashire County Youth Brass Band residential course at Alston Hall close to Longridge
Wonderful proramme and I am sure dear Andre enjoyed it as much as I did.
Awesome clips of Black Dyke and their conductor. Roy Newsome was such a gentleman.
Remember watching the original broadcast as a 19 year old. Been waiting for someone to post it on TH-cam for years. Feels very poignant watching it again for the first time since the original broadcast given so many of the participants are no longer around ..... Previn himself, Ifor James, Frank Bryce, John Fletcher, Roy Newsome ....
Great program with excellent sound recording.
Gives a new meaning to the phrase: where there's muck, there's brass!
Great viewing, thanks for posting. A tantalising few bars of Howard Burrell's Occasion in the Besses section, a work I've never heard before. Great to see John Fletcher at work too, and some imaginative camera work, in the days when the BBC could be a***d to cover bands.
Love to see the staff band of Salvation Army featured.
I'm torn on the fact they're amateur. On the one hand I respect and recognize the role amateur brass bands play in keeping the heritage flame alive, but on the other I strongly believe people should be paid for their work, and that in the Arts there is already a great expectation that people will give their time for free. The more we do this, the more we legitimize it and maintain that expectation for others. During the pandemic a lot of people opined the slogan "Art Is Work," and yet we help to shrink that message by performing for free. If a band is one of the best in the country, as is stated in this film, I can see no reason they should not be paid. Presumably, at the very least, band members get something from any concert proceeds?
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05:32 Ifor James claiming he brought the high standard to Besses. More than a tad conceited, perhaps?
Self belief is a prerequisite for for top conductors, look at Bernstein no room for self doubt there!
In their heart of hearts every conductor believes the same. At Besses IJ experimented with the Tenor Cor as a replacement for tenor horns but the idea never took off. I find IJ interesting because he was a formidable technician on the French Horn (Gregson wrote his concerto for him) but he only picked up the instrument for the first time aged 17/18 (!): up till that point he played cornet in the Carlisle St Stephens Band which coloured his sound.
His sound quality was not great, quite trumpety, but it fitted in well during the heyday of the PJBE. He was a very strong player, and quite fearless, but there are now dozens of players who are much, much more interesting to listen to than he was. Ifor James was astonishingly conceited, as evidenced by his claim in this video that Besses only sounded good because he was conducting them. Did he do much conducting? I don't think so. Doubtless, he thought he was god's gift, but he didn't seem to be much in demand as a conductor.
He told me that the tenor cors (Yamahas?) were rejected by the brass band community because it was anticipated that their distinctive sound would enable contest adjudicators to identify which band was playing. There is, of course, no direct connection between a tenor cor and a French horn; a tenor cor is just an alternative wrap to a more standard Eb tenor saxhorn. @@barrypoupard7009
The working northerners are the salt of the earth and it's no surprise they are eminently capable of the most divine musical expression. In these horrible times when the wretched wreckers and incompetents of the Tory Party are destroying us, I take great heart from this wonderful tradition.