This is even better than Barkha’s own show on the matter on Mojo!…because she gets to speak her, she reported on the hijacking, knows all the details..
It's a request to @jistnews, make some show like this, wherin journalists who have covered political news since long time are invited and share the stories, conditions, situations and experiences as this has been produced. I hope this message will be conveyed to the Rahul Sir. Thanks for bringing this show.
why did Anubhav belittle ISI involvement? What is agenda of Netflix and Anubhuv Sinha to not credit ISI and their hardwork and planning, take away their successful Hijack? Why left leaning journos, like others not taking about this cheating of credit from Pakistan?
It was a total failure of Vajpayee govt.. then the attack on parliament followed by army build up and doing nothing, eventually we lost many soldiers in mining and demining. However I feel the makers of thiscweb series should have shown the Real face of terrorists and pak involvement
@@sammishak4035they did show ISI and Pak involvement at the beginning they also hinted at Taliban involvement when Manoj pahwa says sab hi ek chatte bhatte hai. You have to understand the series only spans over the 6 days hijacking. They wouldn't have had all the information in that 6 days.
See any movie on 9/11 and they will show you first half on how it was planned by attackers. But this series just shows in 30 seconds and never touchbase directly on ISI involvement except the “hints”. Makers ended up pointing it happened due to “intelligence failure “ and not due to ones who planned it
@@User98052looks like you did not watch the series unbiasedly. The first episode and few other scene in subsequent episode is all about Pakistani embassy and ISI involvement?
@@hfmcdocs4541 That was shown as speculation. Then why its shown in the entire series that Indian officials are making “ISI” as scapegoat only to share with media as they had to share a name? Even the mastermind is shown to work closely with Laden and the direct involvement is highlighted than showing any characters or showing atleast for few mins how iSI planned it. Ofcourse it was govt and intelligence failure but it was “planned” by ISI and they are the primary accused and not indian agencies
Its incidents like these where true brilliance of KPS GILL shows, whatever has happened, he has done it better. He has retired during ic814, he volunteered to talk to the terrorist in amritsar but wasnt given permission, he had foiled two similar hijacking in amritsar which didnt make news and very few people know. Abou them. There was bluestar and after that mr.gill again surrounded golden temple and made 147 terrorists surrender during operation black thunder. That man needs to given his due.
Barkha is undoubtedly one of the rare brilliant storytellers we've seen. Regardless of personal opinions on her political stance, there's no denying her eloquence in presenting her arguments. ❤
Fascinating conversation. I liked the fact that Barkha was measured in her analysis, isn't looking at 1999 from the lens of 2024. Mistakes were made by stakeholders but such was the era of the 90s, we were still pretty much in a learning phase in each facet of our country's growth. Such a hijack was unprecedented, and we were not prepared to take quick action in a matter of minutes. We forget that the world had decided to stand against us in that time. Perspective matters.
This dialogue from Kashmir files will always be relevant "Sarkar unki hai par system hamara hai". This vile series IC814 which sympathized terrorists and gives clean chit to ISI is released and the movie Emergency made by BJP MP,who is in government is not given censorship.
@@Rambo_108 Haha you just rant leftist whenever you do not have anything better to say..... Wasn't it a rightist government which released dreaded terrorists who spread mayhem in India....... Weren't they "lethargic" in response when the plane was landed in Amritsar..... Try to be rational and not a social media narrative zombie.......
Barkha is a brave woman journalist in our country for last 3 decades her determination on various issues like justice for weaker sections and women safety security is worth applauding!!!
Honestly, I have to say this. Its the first time I have seen this side of Barkha Dutt. Her voice is almost shaking recalling the events. It shows how bad the situation was. I must appreciate her for this emotional vulnerability that I have seen today.
She is well known for making our soldiers vulnerable several times and also for putting her so called "leftist" agenda first of everything...even country. So be careful of from what and whom you get inspired...
I personally can't support the idea of negotiating with terrorists, even if my own family were on that plane. Releasing dangerous terrorists, knowing it could lead to greater harm and more casualties in the future, is something I just couldn’t accept. 😢
Us,samay yahi khayal aata tha ki kya Desh ke liye jan dena sirf fauj la kam hai.Nagrikon ko bji Desh ke liye balidan hone ko tayyar rahna chahiye! Sarkar ka Aatankwadiyon ke samne jhukna bahut hi badi har thi Bharat ki. Per ,shayad hmara apna koi plane me hota toh kya Pata, hum bhi esa hi vilap lar rahe hote PM office ke bahar! Is dabav je karan hi hijackers ke aage jhuka pada sarkar ko. Toh kumzori ham Nagrikon me bhi hai.
Great conversation! I'm becoming a fan of Rahul Shrivastava. I watched this series after a day or two it got released. In credits, and I think last 2 episodes - the real names of hijackers were revealed. Barkha, since you covered this event, you should watch the show before conducting or giving the interviews, so that it would make the conversations richer. Furthermore, what as a viewer I gathered from the show, that AQ was the mastermind in this hijack and ISI was a smaller player. I agree, I think Musharraf was trying to save his face from the Kargil debacle through this.
The reason everyone has started discussing about the incident is because of the series. Criticism is good and most importantly the series is made and people are aware of such a horrific incident is key. So in that regards this is an important series.
I like how they did a one hour show on this topic, with strong views on it, and NEITHER OF THEM BOTHERED TO SEE THE SERIES that they are commenting on. Tells you so much about the quality of their journalism
Discussion is not about the series but about their recollection and reporting at the time of the incident..for which they don't have to watch the show... And where it is about the presentation of events ( which is a small part of the topic)in the series-- they are objective in putting their opinions forth about how it should be done
Barkha I adore your talent in Journalism & like the good changes in your style of approach in service to the Nation U are still underrated and deserve more limelight at least in the Social media Please continue the good work
They discussed this incident without having watched the series! Firstly this is based on a book authored by the captain of IC 814 and is a fictionalized account. Secondly, ISI has been mentioned clearly as the agency which carried out this dastardly act.
Sad but true that we had no clue about what happened with IC814. I do understand that Netflix series does not exactly portray the incident but thanks to the series we atleast know something like this happened and it made us search more about it. The series made us realize that it was Pakistan because of the terrorists that were released.
Yes i watched the news on NDTV where barkha dutt was covering IC814 flight hijacked in kandahar , where late atal ji allowed terrorists freedom in exchange to bring back passengers safely
The point about memorialising the IC814 even if it is embarrassing to talk about for the nation is a great point. Somewhere there is a sense of guilt in the whole country related to this incident that prevents us from accepting it and recognising the good work done by the negotiators and mistakes as well.
Great interview ...but I recollect that barkha had great connect with army .The rumour is when barkha reached front line in kargil to sensationalism...the moment the camera lights were put on( mind it no lighting was allowed in front line indian bunkers at night),pakistanis targeted that bunker later and destroyed it ..
I have not seen a more unstructured interview in my life. Rahul ji seems unprepared and most topics are left open ended to switch to another one. Even Barkha corrected him multiple times
I don't know why is the sympathizing with Pakistan. What benefit does these directors get ? To promote secular values , one does not need to humanize terrorists. As an average Indian, i find this deeply concerning.
I still recall the media had shown so much irresponsibility and amplified passengers family voice to put un-necessarily pressure to the govt. as if entire country is going to be collapsed if govt didnt accept their demand..i can't guess if indian govt is going to take any other action but the way it was pressurized to them, it makes us show our face so bad in world image. after all in large, indian media never learnt what is true journalism is..whenever get chance they ready to sensalized the story..these people in their late career now start realizing their mistakes, however trying to act to cover themselves..
When Bharkha talks about 26/11 and IC814 she mentions that the government should communicate and it is not right to put the blame on media, "she was reporting what she saw". However when it comes to movie making story telling or series making which is based on books written and of course so imagination of the storyteller, somehow they are asked questions on whether it was right. It feels like hypocrisy when people from one profession question someone but when it comes to their profession they don't want to take the accountability.
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Barkha deserves a web series of her own with all these adventures making for interesting episodes. I believe she is largely neutral, biased only towards her profession.
I get it why Dutt gets so much hate. In the viel of eloquence, she omits the truths inconvenient to her. There are many who say it is media that provided the critical details to the terrorists which may have caused a few setbacks, and now she gets to hail as champion of journalism. If she had been on the plane, I am sure she would have made life anyway miserable than actually it was for the flyers.
Very nice talk. Enjoyed it fully. Just one suggestion, you guys should have watched the series before discussing. I the series, it was very clear that all hijackers were Pakistani. They didn’t make it clear in the movie that who was behind this, ISI or some omen else. I think even you guys are not sure about it. Thanks for this discussion.
Now that we have a rather sympathetic Taliban I recall Taliban boss admitting they knew about Tomar presence and have claimed it was their gesture of sympathy.
I am disappointed with Barkha Dutt that she is unprepared for this discussion. She says ample times that she has not watched the series, and that is not done. She should have watched and come prepared, if not then the title of this video cannot be " Watch Barkha Dutt recount what Netflix web series IC814 doesn"t tell". They dont like that Anubhav sinha encashed on historical event by fictionalizing it with inaccuracies (call it lack of research), they are encashing on series by discussing on it with unpreparedness. I admire their personal experience of those times but you being such a senior journalist cant keep saying I dont know as i have not watched it.
It was very clear that the hijackers are from Pakistan, there are scenes showing the conversation in a pakistani house, many times isi was mentioned as they're part of this . There is a dialogue which says all these are twin brothers. How come if taliban not involved they'll allow them to land in kandahar without any objection. Let it be a version of the events, everyone wants their own version of truth to be told. If you don't agree, do your version.
Though the reactions of family members are understandable, it was mature to pressure the government to release terrorists to save family members. Easy for me to say it today but still it is very childish immature (and unpatriotic) behavior by family members. IF family members had not made the scene outside the PM office or news reporters had not televised it live... The Indian government would not have been under such pressure to save passengers at "ANY COST".
It is disappointing that they have not watched the series and commenting on it. I think the series was great but perhaps I too felt that it was quite obvious that ISI was behind it and it kind of speculated that they had some other players backing it up too. But a balanced nuanced criticism is necessary after one has at least watched the series. But I also loved the conversation. I loved the part where the two journalists shared their personal anecdotes, huge respect for them both but disappointed that they didn’t actually watched the series first.
The series expect to be a bit more intelligent. They did not say ISI was not behind it. In fact, in the last episode when hijackers demanded Zargar ..A major scene.. the Indian negatiotars suddenly started saying …THIS IS ISI … ! Indian intelligence did not want to accept initially that! Quite possible !
Yes we do have Pakistani sympathisers in India in Bollywood for sure.... This was not the first hijack... Just read a news article in The Hindu by suhasini where she mention many hijack of Indian plane by terrorist ( of course Pakistani, many times pakitan help India mediate with terrorist... May be to show they were not involve)..... Terrorists were compassionate human being yeah kind terrorist 😆😅😂 only Bollywood can pull such thing!!!
As a viewer, I did not see the whitewashing of the ISI & that’s something I’m happy to debate this with Vir Sanghvi and Barkha too, the latter anyways hasn’t watched the show. Secondly, I’m a little shocked to see such senior journalists have such poor knowledge about how biopics / autobiographical works are made. The filmmaker has got the rights to the captain’s book and the rest is a recreation basis research. If you are expecting that those negotiating etc should have been shown as per their real names, are you aware that that would require taking rights from each person? Are you aware of the cost implications of that? The same would be true of the passengers, hence no real names used there either. I would urge senior journalists such as Rahul ji and Barkha to better inform themselves of how films are made before making such statements that can blind side the audience. I found similar things happening during the death of Sushant Rajput when basis a report that he was to do a film with Vashu Bhagnani for 10 crores, ppl started demanding where that money had gone and that Rhea Chakravarty ought to be investigated for that. Are we truly in a world where we believe that a producer hands this sum to any actor as a lumpsum without a contract? A mere dialogue with anyone in the film industry would tell you that actors only receive a signing amount that doesn’t exceed 15% and then the payment is given at various stages of completion of the film going up to a similar amount right until the release of the film! So if a film doesn’t release or has a delayed release, the actor won’t get paid until that. Anyways I digress to prove a point that in the absence of true critics such as Masand etc, it is now up to journalists and social media influencers to critique these things when they truly aren’t aware of the process of film making.
Just to give their own sorry careers importance they keep saying it was a seminal, significance, important event in the history of India based on a series that they didn't care enough to watch. How hard are these two folks working to become painfully incoherent. The country dismantled the plain, people had moved on. This Anubhav Sinha character is someone who has learnt to milk from forgotten or difficult to forget moments of our collective memory. if the country wants to forget you want them to remember, why?
Country should never forget or forgive Terrorism or Muslim or Islamic or Christian invaders... If you forgive or forget than you will be enslaved again by them.
I think it is dishonest as a journalist of this caliber to not watch a show and still continue to comment about show’s representation and motivations. It can only happen in India. In the series, from the very first episode it is shown that hijack was a ISI plot. It shows a brave R&AW officer trying to unmask the plot before it unfolds. ‘Bhola’ and ‘Shankar’ has been used a handful time in the series only. The series is based on a book and if director of this series did not do justice to the novel it should be brought out as a misrepresentation and not a crime
After this horrible incident our government has supplied wheat to Taliban government during recent food crisis. How soon we forget these incidents and move on.
Not taking real names of politicians/ bureaucrats showed the cowardice of Anubhav S & others. Basically the imbecile nature of our governance system generates such cowardice. U can blame both Congress & now BJP for this. They can be hurt by anything.
I read several books and articles regarding this incident and also watch the documentary the controversy surrounding the series is just silly the main thing no one noticed that the makers clearly doing a whitewashing PR for both ISI and Taliban which must be called out.
Pls also call vishnu Shankar jain who has fought for Kashi very ably and now for me bhojshala.Youth of our country should know about hoe much hindus are suffering and Dr. L. H. Manjunath was the Executive Director of Shri Kshethra Dharmasthala Rural Development Project (R.) (SKDRDP).
This is even better than Barkha’s own show on the matter on Mojo!…because she gets to speak her, she reported on the hijacking, knows all the details..
Barkha the anchor
It's a request to @jistnews, make some show like this, wherin journalists who have covered political news since long time are invited and share the stories, conditions, situations and experiences as this has been produced. I hope this message will be conveyed to the Rahul Sir.
Thanks for bringing this show.
Nice suggestion
And a good idea
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why did Anubhav belittle ISI involvement?
What is agenda of Netflix and Anubhuv Sinha to not credit ISI and their hardwork and planning, take away their successful Hijack?
Why left leaning journos, like others not taking about this cheating of credit from Pakistan?
It was a total failure of Vajpayee govt.. then the attack on parliament followed by army build up and doing nothing, eventually we lost many soldiers in mining and demining. However I feel the makers of thiscweb series should have shown the Real face of terrorists and pak involvement
@@sammishak4035they did show ISI and Pak involvement at the beginning they also hinted at Taliban involvement when Manoj pahwa says sab hi ek chatte bhatte hai. You have to understand the series only spans over the 6 days hijacking. They wouldn't have had all the information in that 6 days.
See any movie on 9/11 and they will show you first half on how it was planned by attackers. But this series just shows in 30 seconds and never touchbase directly on ISI involvement except the “hints”. Makers ended up pointing it happened due to “intelligence failure “ and not due to ones who planned it
@@User98052looks like you did not watch the series unbiasedly. The first episode and few other scene in subsequent episode is all about Pakistani embassy and ISI involvement?
@@hfmcdocs4541 That was shown as speculation. Then why its shown in the entire series that Indian officials are making “ISI” as scapegoat only to share with media as they had to share a name? Even the mastermind is shown to work closely with Laden and the direct involvement is highlighted than showing any characters or showing atleast for few mins how iSI planned it.
Ofcourse it was govt and intelligence failure but it was “planned” by ISI and they are the primary accused and not indian agencies
Honestly, despite not being a Barkha Dutt fan, I feel she has done a superb analysis here and I admire her stand here. Very nice sensible discussion.
That is precisely why she's an ace journalist.
@@aftabmohammedify BJP RSS frogs can never perceive without the filter of ideology and they never forgive any transgression.
Its incidents like these where true brilliance of KPS GILL shows, whatever has happened, he has done it better. He has retired during ic814, he volunteered to talk to the terrorist in amritsar but wasnt given permission, he had foiled two similar hijacking in amritsar which didnt make news and very few people know. Abou them.
There was bluestar and after that mr.gill again surrounded golden temple and made 147 terrorists surrender during operation black thunder.
That man needs to given his due.
Barkha is undoubtedly one of the rare brilliant storytellers we've seen. Regardless of personal opinions on her political stance, there's no denying her eloquence in presenting her arguments. ❤
In complete agreement with you
Fascinating conversation. I liked the fact that Barkha was measured in her analysis, isn't looking at 1999 from the lens of 2024. Mistakes were made by stakeholders but such was the era of the 90s, we were still pretty much in a learning phase in each facet of our country's growth. Such a hijack was unprecedented, and we were not prepared to take quick action in a matter of minutes. We forget that the world had decided to stand against us in that time.
Perspective matters.
No wonder Pakistanis are praising this series. Probably we are not the target audience. It just happened to be made by Indians. 😕
This dialogue from Kashmir files will always be relevant "Sarkar unki hai par system hamara hai". This vile series IC814 which sympathized terrorists and gives clean chit to ISI is released and the movie Emergency made by BJP MP,who is in government is not given censorship.
When you dont even watch the series and come from social media narrative 😂
@@ayushgarg7033when you have watched the series but don't want to come out from own lethargic leftist mindset😂😂
@@Rambo_108 Haha you just rant leftist whenever you do not have anything better to say..... Wasn't it a rightist government which released dreaded terrorists who spread mayhem in India....... Weren't they "lethargic" in response when the plane was landed in Amritsar.....
Try to be rational and not a social media narrative zombie.......
You are the brainwashed person here.@@ayushgarg7033
100% true bro i watched and its just white wash of isi and territories
Barkha is a brave woman journalist in our country for last 3 decades her determination on various issues like justice for weaker sections and women safety security is worth applauding!!!
Burkha Butt is an agent of the Pakistani deep state. Sadly, she is still roaming freely in India. Shameful.
Jihadi ka pyar chalak raha hai
Lol
She was caught pimping for govt for posts she is one of the persons who killed journalism in India along with the boxer
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not usually a fan of Barkha and her skewed presentation. However this case - hats off to her!!
Burkha Butt is an agent of the Pakistani deep state. Sadly, she is still roaming freely in India. Shameful.
Moral of the story never expect help, keep urself strong.
Help did come.
Honestly, I have to say this.
Its the first time I have seen this side of Barkha Dutt.
Her voice is almost shaking recalling the events. It shows how bad the situation was.
I must appreciate her for this emotional vulnerability that I have seen today.
She is well known for making our soldiers vulnerable several times and also for putting her so called "leftist" agenda first of everything...even country. So be careful of from what and whom you get inspired...
Yes
She has indeed become an accomplished actor again after so many years of staging videos for her stories
Without watching the series, she has been talking about @zeus3086
Burkha Butt is an agent of the Pakistani deep state. Sadly, she is still roaming freely in India. Shameful.
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Excellent discussion. Barkha has the respect of many for her views
I personally can't support the idea of negotiating with terrorists, even if my own family were on that plane. Releasing dangerous terrorists, knowing it could lead to greater harm and more casualties in the future, is something I just couldn’t accept. 😢
Easier said than done
@@Benaam007-z5s But, that’s my point; even your enemy knows your weaknesses!
Us,samay yahi khayal aata tha ki kya Desh ke liye jan dena sirf fauj la kam hai.Nagrikon ko bji Desh ke liye balidan hone ko tayyar rahna chahiye! Sarkar ka Aatankwadiyon ke samne jhukna bahut hi badi har thi Bharat ki.
Per ,shayad hmara apna koi plane me hota toh kya Pata, hum bhi esa hi vilap lar rahe hote PM office ke bahar!
Is dabav je karan hi hijackers ke aage jhuka pada sarkar ko.
Toh kumzori ham Nagrikon me bhi hai.
I am a huge fan of Mr. Rahul Shrivastava since #NDTV days. Very decent, well spoken, respected personality in journalism. Thank you sir!!
Great conversation! I'm becoming a fan of Rahul Shrivastava. I watched this series after a day or two it got released. In credits, and I think last 2 episodes - the real names of hijackers were revealed. Barkha, since you covered this event, you should watch the show before conducting or giving the interviews, so that it would make the conversations richer. Furthermore, what as a viewer I gathered from the show, that AQ was the mastermind in this hijack and ISI was a smaller player. I agree, I think Musharraf was trying to save his face from the Kargil debacle through this.
Was fascinating to watch a wonderful discussion. Rahul we want to watch more of you. Please make programmes regularly.
The reason everyone has started discussing about the incident is because of the series. Criticism is good and most importantly the series is made and people are aware of such a horrific incident is key. So in that regards this is an important series.
I like how they did a one hour show on this topic, with strong views on it, and NEITHER OF THEM BOTHERED TO SEE THE SERIES that they are commenting on. Tells you so much about the quality of their journalism
Discussion is not about the series but about their recollection and reporting at the time of the incident..for which they don't have to watch the show...
And where it is about the presentation of events ( which is a small part of the topic)in the series-- they are objective in putting their opinions forth about how it should be done
U were a young reporter but working for a reputed channel.. but you can’t get away but u were a kick ass journalist covering khargil
Rahul Shrivastava - have always regarded you as a brilliant journalist. Barkha too has excelled in the same field. What a meaningful chat.
Barkha
I adore your talent in Journalism & like the good changes in your style of approach in service to the Nation
U are still underrated and deserve more limelight at least in the Social media
Please continue the good work
They discussed this incident without having watched the series! Firstly this is based on a book authored by the captain of IC 814 and is a fictionalized account. Secondly, ISI has been mentioned clearly as the agency which carried out this dastardly act.
It was sheer incompetence of Indian Security Establishment led by AS Daulat , Shyamal Dutta and Nikhil Kumar
Fierce 🔥 Barkha
Great conversation. Literally same to same as the series.
Sad but true that we had no clue about what happened with IC814. I do understand that Netflix series does not exactly portray the incident but thanks to the series we atleast know something like this happened and it made us search more about it. The series made us realize that it was Pakistan because of the terrorists that were released.
Yes i watched the news on NDTV where barkha dutt was covering IC814 flight hijacked in kandahar , where late atal ji allowed terrorists freedom in exchange to bring back passengers safely
The point about memorialising the IC814 even if it is embarrassing to talk about for the nation is a great point. Somewhere there is a sense of guilt in the whole country related to this incident that prevents us from accepting it and recognising the good work done by the negotiators and mistakes as well.
Great interview ...but I recollect that barkha had great connect with army .The rumour is when barkha reached front line in kargil to sensationalism...the moment the camera lights were put on( mind it no lighting was allowed in front line indian bunkers at night),pakistanis targeted that bunker later and destroyed it ..
Unsung hero Devi Saran and other officials who went to Kandahar.Bravery personified.
Trauma and patience of passengers is beyond remarkable.
I have not seen a more unstructured interview in my life. Rahul ji seems unprepared and most topics are left open ended to switch to another one. Even Barkha corrected him multiple times
Couldn't hurt to watch the series before critiques. I think the makers did a solid job depecting the pilots account of the incident in history.
Very good Discussion. Thanks
I don't know why is the sympathizing with Pakistan. What benefit does these directors get ? To promote secular values , one does not need to humanize terrorists. As an average Indian, i find this deeply concerning.
For the love of God, STOP interrupting her!!
Your job of telling what you are seeing......great....like in Op Vijay? Live?
Two journalists commenting on the series when neither has seen it. What a pity, and I expect more at least these two.
Good to see old Barkha Dutt, The reporter.
Indian media accentuated the misery by playing the story non stop for 10 days..
I still recall the media had shown so much irresponsibility and amplified passengers family voice to put un-necessarily pressure to the govt. as if entire country is going to be collapsed if govt didnt accept their demand..i can't guess if indian govt is going to take any other action but the way it was pressurized to them, it makes us show our face so bad in world image. after all in large, indian media never learnt what is true journalism is..whenever get chance they ready to sensalized the story..these people in their late career now start realizing their mistakes, however trying to act to cover themselves..
How was the ladli of ndtv allowed to get away with trying to get into the aircraft by hoodwinking the security cordon.
This Is Called Real Journalism❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
When Bharkha talks about 26/11 and IC814 she mentions that the government should communicate and it is not right to put the blame on media, "she was reporting what she saw". However when it comes to movie making story telling or series making which is based on books written and of course so imagination of the storyteller, somehow they are asked questions on whether it was right. It feels like hypocrisy when people from one profession question someone but when it comes to their profession they don't want to take the accountability.
She was always a hypocrite don't you remember her we the people era
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Barkha deserves a web series of her own with all these adventures making for interesting episodes. I believe she is largely neutral, biased only towards her profession.
Thank you so much
I get it why Dutt gets so much hate. In the viel of eloquence, she omits the truths inconvenient to her. There are many who say it is media that provided the critical details to the terrorists which may have caused a few setbacks, and now she gets to hail as champion of journalism.
If she had been on the plane, I am sure she would have made life anyway miserable than actually it was for the flyers.
Musharraf took the title of Chief Executive General after the coup. He took the title of President before the Agra Summit.
Dubai did help by negotiating for off loading ladies and kids.
Very nice talk. Enjoyed it fully. Just one suggestion, you guys should have watched the series before discussing. I the series, it was very clear that all hijackers were Pakistani. They didn’t make it clear in the movie that who was behind this, ISI or some omen else. I think even you guys are not sure about it. Thanks for this discussion.
Now that we have a rather sympathetic Taliban I recall Taliban boss admitting they knew about Tomar presence and have claimed it was their gesture of sympathy.
I am disappointed with Barkha Dutt that she is unprepared for this discussion. She says ample times that she has not watched the series, and that is not done. She should have watched and come prepared, if not then the title of this video cannot be " Watch Barkha Dutt recount what Netflix web series IC814 doesn"t tell". They dont like that Anubhav sinha encashed on historical event by fictionalizing it with inaccuracies (call it lack of research), they are encashing on series by discussing on it with unpreparedness. I admire their personal experience of those times but you being such a senior journalist cant keep saying I dont know as i have not watched it.
It was very clear that the hijackers are from Pakistan, there are scenes showing the conversation in a pakistani house, many times isi was mentioned as they're part of this . There is a dialogue which says all these are twin brothers.
How come if taliban not involved they'll allow them to land in kandahar without any objection.
Let it be a version of the events, everyone wants their own version of truth to be told. If you don't agree, do your version.
the interviewer is continuously interrupting and not listening. Spoils the experience
Though the reactions of family members are understandable, it was mature to pressure the government to release terrorists to save family members. Easy for me to say it today but still it is very childish immature (and unpatriotic) behavior by family members. IF family members had not made the scene outside the PM office or news reporters had not televised it live... The Indian government would not have been under such pressure to save passengers at "ANY COST".
Interesting conversation
Two people discussing a TV series and both haven't seen it😂😂😂😂
They are discussing actual events .They have more details on actual events
@@pa5918 Please read the title of the video and thumbnail as well 🙏
@@chiragmohansharma The title is misleading agreed 👍
Theres no need to see a stupid OTT series when aircraft investigation has already shown it
My thoughts exactly why discuss a series u haven't even seen
The problem is not only it is not made clear that "Yeh Pakistanis hai " but " " Yeh Pakistani Muslims hai"
Honestly asking. How would it covered in current days .
It is disappointing that they have not watched the series and commenting on it. I think the series was great but perhaps I too felt that it was quite obvious that ISI was behind it and it kind of speculated that they had some other players backing it up too. But a balanced nuanced criticism is necessary after one has at least watched the series.
But I also loved the conversation. I loved the part where the two journalists shared their personal anecdotes, huge respect for them both but disappointed that they didn’t actually watched the series first.
Abe chutiye ab terrorism me bhi tumko balanced view chahiye? 🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽
Bloody scums live in this country
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The series expect to be a bit more intelligent. They did not say ISI was not behind it. In fact, in the last episode when hijackers demanded Zargar ..A major scene.. the Indian negatiotars suddenly started saying …THIS IS ISI … ! Indian intelligence did not want to accept initially that! Quite possible !
That was a wonderful conversation.
Yes we do have Pakistani sympathisers in India in Bollywood for sure.... This was not the first hijack... Just read a news article in The Hindu by suhasini where she mention many hijack of Indian plane by terrorist ( of course Pakistani, many times pakitan help India mediate with terrorist... May be to show they were not involve)..... Terrorists were compassionate human being yeah kind terrorist 😆😅😂 only Bollywood can pull such thing!!!
As a viewer, I did not see the whitewashing of the ISI & that’s something I’m happy to debate this with Vir Sanghvi and Barkha too, the latter anyways hasn’t watched the show. Secondly, I’m a little shocked to see such senior journalists have such poor knowledge about how biopics / autobiographical works are made. The filmmaker has got the rights to the captain’s book and the rest is a recreation basis research. If you are expecting that those negotiating etc should have been shown as per their real names, are you aware that that would require taking rights from each person? Are you aware of the cost implications of that? The same would be true of the passengers, hence no real names used there either. I would urge senior journalists such as Rahul ji and Barkha to better inform themselves of how films are made before making such statements that can blind side the audience. I found similar things happening during the death of Sushant Rajput when basis a report that he was to do a film with Vashu Bhagnani for 10 crores, ppl started demanding where that money had gone and that Rhea Chakravarty ought to be investigated for that. Are we truly in a world where we believe that a producer hands this sum to any actor as a lumpsum without a contract? A mere dialogue with anyone in the film industry would tell you that actors only receive a signing amount that doesn’t exceed 15% and then the payment is given at various stages of completion of the film going up to a similar amount right until the release of the film! So if a film doesn’t release or has a delayed release, the actor won’t get paid until that. Anyways I digress to prove a point that in the absence of true critics such as Masand etc, it is now up to journalists and social media influencers to critique these things when they truly aren’t aware of the process of film making.
Just to give their own sorry careers importance they keep saying it was a seminal, significance, important event in the history of India based on a series that they didn't care enough to watch. How hard are these two folks working to become painfully incoherent. The country dismantled the plain, people had moved on. This Anubhav Sinha character is someone who has learnt to milk from forgotten or difficult to forget moments of our collective memory. if the country wants to forget you want them to remember, why?
Country should never forget or forgive Terrorism or Muslim or Islamic or Christian invaders...
If you forgive or forget than you will be enslaved again by them.
I quote A.S Dulat the alienation of kashmiris changed into hatred during the modi regime.
36:05 National security dimension. Out of all people Barkha you 😅
Great colab...
both have not seen the series and both are discussing the series shows the mindset of Indian media, hilarious.
discussion is about hijack not series...obviously all u knew abt it came from series...which is wrong
Dude they reported on the incident as it unfolded...
They are not discussing the series they are discussing the actual events!
Dude they literally reported it.
Just watch the interview.
I think it is dishonest as a journalist of this caliber to not watch a show and still continue to comment about show’s representation and motivations. It can only happen in India.
In the series, from the very first episode it is shown that hijack was a ISI plot. It shows a brave R&AW officer trying to unmask the plot before it unfolds. ‘Bhola’ and ‘Shankar’ has been used a handful time in the series only.
The series is based on a book and if director of this series did not do justice to the novel it should be brought out as a misrepresentation and not a crime
The chaos media caused no one can forget that ..
India should have more documentaries.
Daulat is responsible!
No, last 2 episodes are not using original names
Jaswant Singh had gone there to take decision if any unwanted thing happened.
Should have added Shekhar Gupta to this discussion. It would be incredibly enriching. More such collabs please!
So you want two Pakistani agents to talk about IC-814 incident
Love that idea !
Yeah, like the fake coup story he did??!!😀
He is called Shekhar 'Coup'ta for a reason..!!
Who gave the ISI locations of Indian soldiers during Kargil War?
After this horrible incident our government has supplied wheat to Taliban government during recent food crisis. How soon we forget these incidents and move on.
Not taking real names of politicians/ bureaucrats showed the cowardice of Anubhav S & others. Basically the imbecile nature of our governance system generates such cowardice. U can blame both Congress & now BJP for this. They can be hurt by anything.
Here we can see the anti national check list. Keep them coming BURKHA Dutt
But saar Anubhav Sinha So called Woke ko Kon bataiyega 🫠
The cabal started ! Daulat Farook were involved in the episode Barkha was very close to all these ppl!
Great one 👌
To deciding ministers in the Union Government to running a obscure TH-cam Channel. What a fall....
I read several books and articles regarding this incident and also watch the documentary the controversy surrounding the series is just silly the main thing no one noticed that the makers clearly doing a whitewashing PR for both ISI and Taliban which must be called out.
Bajpeyi was also busy shooting for discovery channel. ?
If ICI involves than why they did not did anything when plan was in Lahore… why they allowed to leave ???
Burkha.. u will never change
Nice Discussion 👍
Barkha has been talking about the series for 2 weeks and also still stays she hasn't watched the series. Talk shop!
एसबीएस तोमर कंधार से वापस 814 से लौटे थे या डोवाल साहब के साथ प्लेन से??
BD is getting her moral.compasscslowly back in place .. good to note ..
what has been done cannot be undone
Isn't it wrong on barkha to keep discussing the series without watching it.
more wrong is u r commenting without watching this video...video is n abt series
They are discussing actual events..not OTT series. Go do some research and reading pls ....
How are you both having a discussion without watching the series ?? Very irresponsible of you both!! Have an opinion but please watch first
Pls also call vishnu Shankar jain who has fought for Kashi very ably and now for me bhojshala.Youth of our country should know about hoe much hindus are suffering and Dr. L. H. Manjunath was the Executive Director of Shri Kshethra Dharmasthala Rural Development Project (R.) (SKDRDP).
I think one can criticize intelligence lapse but not later event of negotiating to save the civilians.
anti india eco system is very strong inside our country . Lots of elite politicians, journalist , BABUS are part of it