The Pacifist Democracy That's Survived for Nearly Two Thousand Years
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- I didn't expect much from San Marino. Even filming this episode I was a little annoyed with how little I could find worth telling.
But this story entertained me, and Kata edited it beautifully. I'm super happy with how it turned out. I hope you all enjoy!
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Thanks for watching! You're clearly one of the good ones.
Stay neutral:
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I try to, but the pundits sound so real I almost believe them
All I know is my gut says maybe.
Live free or don't.
Tell my wife I said "Hello".
" Stay neutral " if by which you mean neutral in the face of neighbours being invaded by a hostile foreign power , an atrocity- intended totalitarian empire , could be a very motivated political message , not neutral at all in the non- biased use of the term. The main public message of elite Nazi collaborators in England in the 30s was " stay neutral " , while the records of their internal fascist correspondence show they planned to welcome Hitler and to liquidate the who opposed them and their families.
Rare earth , you don't actually make your own positions transparent. For example , How do you feel about The Chinese Communist Party ?
I really like these two videos about these mini states. I'm hoping more is coming
Reading the info box a quote from Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu came to my mind:
*_"Happy the people whose history reads boringly."_*
Seldomly truer words have been spoken.
That reminds me of a section of one of the books from the Chronicles of Narnia I read as a kid about what usually gets prioritized for recording in history.
I forget which book, but they return to Narnia and many centuries have passed, and the narration said something like “there were centuries of peace so little is remembered or written of much of that history”.
That idea always stuck with me because it’s rather true.
But there is also the Chinese curse, "May you live a long and uneventful life."
@@jlastre the curse is usually more like: May you live in interesting times
@@emanuelmayer Yes. It's pretty much the opposite of "uneventful".
Montesquieu was never really a favorite of mine because he believed in distant democracy, Orwellian Democracy
You have to give them credit for seeing the long term picture.
How one would draw a long term picture?
They don't want your "credit".... burn you Ayn Rand novels and try to keep up.
@j t He means that they do not follow www.aynrand.org/ideas/overview
Which is not hard when you have a true representative democracy where any politician getting too greedy, gets spotted right away and helped to find a more modest job.
You have to give them long term credit for seeing the long term picture.
Democracy thrives when divided into small, easily manageable groups where the people maintain control. It's harder to be a tyrant when everyone knows you by your first name.
I'm stealing this comment. Right on.
cool comment
Very true. The same thing happened in Anarchist Catalonia for the while it existed.
Lex Delaney if homogeneous
Actually ... no.
San Marino politics is as corrupt as the politics of any village with no oversight. You obviously don't know anyone from San Marino. Anyone speaking truth to power while be slapped with "defamation" fines so heavy that most people have just learned to knuckle under and self-censor. San Marino is a micro nation full of Stepfords. www.yourdictionary.com/stepford
The Democracy is a sham. Sure, you can vote you conscience, but if enough people vote their conscience at one of the 50 polling stations, the covertly ruling oligarchs will find a way to punish that region.
Never has a country gotten on my bucket list so quickly.
One of Many James-es It’s definitely worth a visit. Especially after around 4 in the afternoon when most of the tourists have left San Marino Citta becomes empty and it’s amazing.
Jan Friday got any pictures?
You can actually visit 5 countries in a day if you drove without stopping. Very scenic, but a pointless route. Maybe good for gumball.
I drove right past San Marino two months ago, and I didn't know it was something else than just another North italian city! Bummer!
Can only say go for it.
switzerland:i stayed neutral through both world wars
san marino:hold my beer
Just a Default 😆👍🏻💯
Switzerland bringing out enemies though, through their infamous tax havenry rivaling those of Bahamas and British Virgin Isles
Switzerland weren't neutral, they were gambling spectators.
Actually, San Marino helped Italy during WW1, and Austria-Hungary even declared war on them if I remember correctly
EVERYBODY has $$$$ in Swiss banks.
Fun facts about San Marino:
1. It is the only country in the world with more cars than people.
2. US President Abraham Lincoln was an honorary citizen, at the bequest of the San Marino government.
Well i figure its because Lincolns soul objective was keeping the union together and in peace, as well as freeing the slaves.
@@plantlord1079 "and in peace"??? I think you forgot about the war he had a part in starting. He could've just let the south do what they want but he couldn't and millions of Americans died for it. Nothing peaceful about Lincoln.
Ryan M Bruh, South Carolina literally declared independence BEFORE Lincoln got into office
Ryan M he wanted to preserve the Union you can’t preserve it if half of it fucking leaves
@@ryan-jb9fh ah yes let the south do what the want. Including crimes against humanity. Dont throw that "it was for states rights" bs at me it is literally in the confederacys constitution and in the states declarations of independence.
San Marino perfectly represents how democracy can work perfectly if you pull it down onto the local floor. I'm fascinated by this little countries history and the statement it sheer existence makes for communal level based democracy.
Communism (as in real communism) also works in very small isolated communities. A lot of things don't scale well.
@@georgedang449 ehh not realy
@@bliebbloepblieb Actually it does. There are a lot of places where communism works in small villages, little rural communities etc. The same applies to a lot of things really, like isolated religious communities. They have their own system and are perfectly fine with it.
The biggest problem with communists is when they decide that the entire country should adopt their way. Then, they take arms, kill or send to prison all the opposition and install a totalitarian regime to "keep the revolution alive", justifying all atrocities as "necessary acts against the enemies of the people".
So yeah, by far, the best thing that has ever scaled up well is our modern free-market oriented representative democracies. Not perfect, but the best by a long shot.
It does help having a surplus of money by acting as a european tax haven for a good 20-30 years
@@jpmd6178 Oh definitely. But San Marino also went through quite a few dry phases and came out republican. Thats the spirit that I admire.
I'm a hermit, and I am furious every time a new country just, boop; forms around me. Such as hassle!
Switzerland: Were the most neutral country in the world
San marino: Hold my peace treaty
Aww. You missed out on the opportunity to say "hold my olive branch". But yours is still better than hold my beer.
How would a country that was never at war in the first place give peace treaties ?
*please* hold my peace treaty
@@Someone-wj1lf independence war
This comments are starting to get annoying
5:15 That old couple realised they were in the way and just awkwardly left.
Sooo awkward 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
I think San Marino's serenity is more due to its manageable size and, most importantly, the lack of interest of others in conquering them.
Pretty much. We cant all live in such unique worthless locations. Not to say the location isnt nice, but its situation is too rare to hold most humans.
Plus they benefit from all the advances happening in other countries around them. Nobody is an island.
That's part of the point of the video though, that they actively kept it that way, knowing that it was their source of safety. Just be inconsequential enough and no one will bother you.
@@HaganeNoGijutsushi But that would be the wrong point because it isnt keeping their head down that worked, it is that their land isnt worth conquering, and I doubt the original settlers thought of that when they settled there. They simply settled for the same reason people settle anywhere, it was a place they could survive or at least that was untouched at the time.
Sure, not wanting to expand keeps that purpose, but they had nothing to gain by it anyway. Reality isnt as glorious as his dreamy story makes it out to be.
I wanted to clarify the slight misrepresentation of history made in this video for why they didnt want to expand.
This is why
"Thanks to his intervention, Napoleon, in a letter delivered to Gaspard Monge, scientist and commissary of the French Government for Science and Art, promised to guarantee and protect the independence of the Republic, even offering to extend its territory according to its needs. The offer was declined by the Regents, fearing future retaliation from other states' revanchism.[13][14]"
There was a war going on and they feared retaliation. It wasnt some pacifistic future thinking plan to keep their little country safe for eternity. It was as I said, they didnt have much to gain, and a lot to lose.
And it was only due to one regent, not a country decision so much, though I assume the country went with his guidance, but he navigated them through the war very well. They were very small at the time after all.
@@waltermh111 I mean "be inconsequential" also in that sense, that their land wasn't worth much. Though obviously that possibly wasn't the original reason for the choice, by the 1700s when the Napoleon offer came they probably were very aware of it and realised that stepping up their game also meant drawing unwarranted attention.
If anything, San Marino is truly the last remaining Italian city state republic.
Which goes back to the hellenistic republics of ancient Greece ~2500 years ago
@Lucius Sulla Muh western culture
@Lucius Sulla Two things you don't realize, first, Muslims were right up in those City-States for nearly 2000 years already. That's why Spanish medieval architecture looks Arabic and there are plays like "Othello: The Moor of Venice" The presence of Muslims is nothing new. Second, they invented HALF of the shit you think is "western". You won't look it up, but here's a starter link for those viewers who will: www.islamicity.org/6388/contributions-of-islamic-civilization-to-the-modern-world. Oh by the way, the other half was invented by the Chinese.
@@Funkopedia thank you. Someone had to do it.
Also, wtf is the problem in having Muslims? I live near San Marino and this is just populist BS
And Vaticano, though
Napoleon's ghost has watched this 399 times, and is still pissed off.
@Sunbro Adresse ...and replaced them with one's self, one's political hierarchy, one's associates, and one's own ambitions for power. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely............meet the new boss, same as the old boss, but not a mere king. An Emperor no less!
@@jeffhubbard4688 Power doesn't automatically corrupt, it's just that those who often seek it are seldom capable of holding it without bring corrupted.
Napoleon never had good intentions in mind. He was an opportunist who saw a chance to dominate the world and took it.
@@TechnoMinarchist Yes, I'm sure you are quite correct on that point. Very few are able to fight off the instinct to control completely when in a position of power over nations and large territories. The only one that comes close in my limited knowledge is Jose Mujica of Uruguay, although his history prior to being President will no doubt lead to loud guffaws as people read this. There must have been others too, but I doubt any genuine saints are among them. :)
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@@jeffhubbard4688 It is not true that power corrupts. But it gives one the freedom to expose one's true face.
Abraham Lincoln once said: "Anyone can face adversitiy. To test a man's true character, give him power."
(I disagree about anyone being able to face adversity, but the second part is nonetheless true.)
"Wars may come and go, but neighbours are eternal".
"Mo' money, mo' problems"
@marcus24000 No they still be you nebers because you can't move the country into another place.
@@Eza_yuta Yes you can. Conquer the land, kill or kick out the people. Or both, usually, as has happened many times in history.
@@googleminus1442 That's the time when population not as huge as now. Kicked out hundreds million of people good luck, lil' conqueror.
@@Eza_yuta So what? Target the food sources with chemicals such as agent blue. Yes populations have gotten bigger, but that also means the food they require is also bigger. No food, no population. They have to move out to somewhere they can get food. They move out, your army moves in, and move in your citizens also to replace the original inhabitants.
Not gonna lie I am waiting for every episode since the end of the Japan section and I still get the same excitement when I see a new video.
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Me three
Me four. Just finished watching a playlist of all 107 episodes released so far.
Keep up the good work.
P.S. If you are still looking for someone to replace Francesco, I know a guy who is good at photography and videography and loves to travel around the world.
After secret Nazis and cults and all the terrible events you've covered, it's so relaxing to see this. It's like "hey, they did good here. The world isn't built entirely on awful things."
Amazing how refusing to expand actually benefited a nation in the long run...........
There's a few downsides to this, since they are pretty much at the whims of everything else that happens in the world.
Exactly. Which is why nationalism is so great. When you focus on your own people and don’t get involved in external conflicts or try to be the worlds humanitarian, you can actually be quite successful
@@TKUA11 truth
@@TKUA11 Word war 1 and 2 showed us how wrong this is.
Nationalism also includes identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, *especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.*
Playing tall is always boring tbh
Contentment is highly underrated. What a beautiful place.
It really and truly is.
People are afraid to give Joal Gawne a thumbs up ..... wisdom is rare in these times.
@@StarboyXL9 nearly 5000 out of the just over 33,000 people living there are immigrants and even if that wasn't the case it's quite the assumption to say that everyone living there must all have the same mindset and cultural hegemony. And even if that assumption was true (which it isn't because it's virtually impossible), it's a huge leap in logic to take this as proof that multiculturalism doesn't work. Just because one thing works doesn't mean the other doesn't, and I bet you're the sort of person who ignores any facts about the benefits of multiculturalism. All that the example of San Marino shows is that democracy works best on a more local level and that we'll be better off in the long-term if we don't screw over our neighbours.
@@StarboyXL9 troll
@@gsh1104 joels second troll account
History books fail to mention San Marino when it comes to Italian unification, that's how I stumbled upon it. The Three Towers are beautiful. A superpower in HOI4 Millennium Dawn
Go to revolutions podcasts
its usually mentioned as why it wasent added to it
Well thats a place i wont visit to not spoil it. This "not wanting more than you need" should spread
There's a lot of tourism, but it's still a nice place
nt: Clearly there were a bunch of tourists walking those streets already.
I’ve been there, the entire country is in this video :-)
Lagom. Just enough.
The problem comes in when others try to decide your needs vs wants for you - and make all their decisions based on everyone wanting more than they need (like them). That's why there is such a poverty problem throughout this world... something that in many ways is not that old in the history (or pre-history) of humanity, by the way. The modern experience of poverty is only a few hundred years old - and having poorer people vs relatively wealthy goes back only a few thousand years, with the rise of social stratification.
I am quite impressed with San Marino, but wonder about their social structures. If it's as egalitarian as I suspect, I'd like to visit someday.
I remember 55 years ago, when I was getting into stamp collecting, the most sought after stamps were from San Marino.
@@automaticninjaassaultcat3703 Hey! I'm 67 and a heart attack survivor, I have Senior Moments, and English is my only language.
Charles Damery Glad you’re better, god bless
San Marino chooses... Serenity...
(And also being a super rich tax haven)
Not since 2008, we're pretty screwed now
Debts, criminal activities in banks and bad government. Obviously this happens because everyone chooses serenity over responsabilities
@@Pachito757 you still double the Italian PIL pro capite, and you don't have Di Maio, not bad
Yeah, but we still have DC in our government and no guarantees for the future of our banks
@@Pachito757 D... democrazia cristiana?!😟 I'm sorry, I didn't know things were so desperate😔 1 like = 1 amen
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"Would you mind terribly if you were to stop bombing and murdering our innocent civilians who have nothing to do with a war we're not even part of?"
"Oh! Terribly sorry old chap! My sincerest apologies, for confusing your lack of involvement in our current conflict"
"That's quite alright dear fellow! Mistakes are made and there's no need to trouble yourself over it"
"Ah, I am relieved to hear as much. These are dark days and finding friends is a rare thing. Would you mind joining us for a cup of tea after all this nasty business has been dealt with?"
"More than glad to my good sir! I'd wish you well, but then we'd no longer be neutral!"
"Jolly good!"
- Probably more or less the conversation that took place between Britain and the apparent Canada of Europe
hope Britain paid for reparations
@@bdhawi that's nothing
The only acceptable action when the Genie offers you wishes is to decline.
I'll ask to see the worst Marty McFly costume ever. That's it.
Nah that’s fucking stupid
I’d wish(if it were three wishes)
1. Total immortality in such a way that I am neither killable nor able to die.
2. The ability to manipulate and bend the laws of the universe in anyway I see fit(such as stopping time, time travel, and causing a miniature sun to form in the palm of my hand and being able to lift it with ease)
3. The ability to introduce new matter into the universe, or to remove already existing matter.
So basically I’d just wish I was god. And if the genie can’t grant those wishes he’s a bitch and also fake news or something idk
@@cooldudessurvival If the genie would be able to turn you into a god doesn't it mean that he is greater than a god and can easily screw you over?
@@cooldudessurvival i see so many holes in your wishes it's not funny, you have no backup incase you get screwed, you still age mentally and physically, you can still be injured and feel pain, be broken mentally, get illnesses, parasites.
You can break reality and be stuck in nothing forever, or somehow in general screw everything up. That mini sun? A black hole that would freeze you until the end of time if you arent careful.
Adding or removing matter, for sure, is a sketchy ass one, and you didnt specify how or if you have control.
And that's to name a few.
If you take a genie wish, the first wish is to have them tell you how badly it can go wrong and be different on your wishes, and allow you to refine it as much as you like before they accept it, in a way that doesnt last forever, simple solutions basically.
And so on. Keep it simple, keep it small, and always have a failsafe.
Ok, people, i see you don't know the one wish that you would ever need. If a genie ever offered you atleast one wish - ask for ultimate knowledge ("Make me know everything"). Boom. Now you know how to do, create or make anything in any time. Get imortality to yourself and maybe other people by clapping your hands; Solve every unsolved mystery or conspiracy theory; someone is arriving to kill you - they're dead before even pressing your door bell; etc.
I had barely even heard of the Republic of San Marino before watching this, but now I very much want to go visit, perhaps learn something from the people on how to be serene 😀
"I had barely even heard of the Republic of San Marino" probably as intended
Yeah. It is definitely worth it.
Also, look up San Marino football (soccer) team. :)
Same
all I knew about San Marino was that it was the other micro nation in Italy, the one that wasn't the vatican.
"I didn't expect much from San Marino. Even filming this episode I was a little annoyed with how little I could find worth telling."
It is perhaps the human attitude that 2000 years of peacefully going about your business is not worth telling, while the endless bloody warfare of the Caucasus is worth several videos explains the state of humanity and the world we find ourselves in
Humans are born programmed to locate and classify the greatest dangers to themselves and their species. This is a part of why history is so focused around wars and social upheaval, because that instinct is part of why people care about history. Two thousand years of safety does not tick any of the ‘threat’ boxes, so most people just look confused when other people talk about it.
You obviously meant Caucasians, not Caucasus? Although the Cacasus has been flught over long before oil was found there...
@@gulfrelay2249 I assumed he was just a racist that instinctively said Caucasus instead of humans, which is the real word to use.
waltermh111 Caucasus is a region in Europe, near Italy.
@@Maroon_007 yeeeeeeeah I guess I lived in Turkey all this time. Caucasus is the region of the mountains that divide Russia from the Middle East, where Armenia and Azerbaijan are
u make such totally different type of videos. like no one else on earth , and i enjoy and thank you for it from BC Canada.
I second this! Also from B.C Canada.
You could say his videos type of videos are quite...rare
thank you ! - from another british columbian
ditto, delta boy here
@@Lunch_box Well, that explains the "On Earth" part of the comment then. :P
I worked for a travel agency, and the reps could never understand why San Marino wasn't listed as part of Italy (ditto for Malta, oddly enough). I never got there since there's no train station, but I wish it were in my passport beside Andorra and Liechtenstein.
The restoration of the railway into San Marino is a current issue - you may yet get to visit \m/
When I was a kid, San Marino was best known for its triangular stamps.
That's right!!!! Thanks for reminding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even when you complain about not having anything worth telling, you still manage to tell a fascinating story.
How many other countries would have seen the problems inherent with accepting Napoleon's offer?
You only have to look at the turbulent history of Italy (or Europe, or the world for that matter) and come to the conclusion that serenity might be boring, but it's certainly a long-term survival strategy.
1:44 "They've voted in both Fascist and Communist governments and then, when they didn't like them, just voted them out again." If this isn't a definition of a true democracy, I don't know what is.
Thank you (again!) for highlighting an interesting and little known part of the world. The more we know, the more (hopefully) we can learn.
I knew the story before and I hoped it will make it to the series after Liechtenstein and.. bam! here it is :) it's a good story for a world troubled by the lack of stability and solutions that last. Thank you.
Great video as always, always look forward to the next one
Shoutout to the elderly couple at 5:14 who held up for a bit to not disturb the shot!
San Marino has it's own Euro coins, which are double the face value in the collectors market.
Before you know it, the British euro is going to be a collector's item worth much more than a euro. LOL from the U.S. :P
@@chocomanger6873 Cheeky
Choco Manger but it never exist a British Euro, they had the Pound sterling!
@@MarkusSta2 I'm talking about the euro though, which is the currency which the European Union uses. The UK is part of that union, but maybe not for long. You could have a pound of them if you'd like. I believe they also use kilograms in the UK, all the way from Sterling to Newcastle to Glasgow to Dover. I was trying to make a point about the tensions that exist politically in the UK now over staying in, or leaving, the European Union. #joke #justpretendingimadumbamerican
@@MarkusSta2 I think it's a cheeky brexit joke. We don't have the euro. It could mean that because the UK is weak acting towards our Eupean overloards, we will have the euro soon. Just a guess but funny.
That was good but way too short in duration. I needed more so now I'm going to go on a quest and learn more about San Marino. Thank you...
Nice to see that Francesco was back for this episode. I got to say that it really shows in the footage.
First and FOREMOST... great video as always.
One minor nitpick that, in my book, is slightly more than minor. Not quite medium, but not minor. And I'll present my academic knowledge and ask your hands-on experience says that I need to change my view.
San Marino isn't a city-state by classic definitions. I was having an hours-long academic debate on nations and I said "not including city-states like Monaco and San Marino" to which my academic partner said "San Marino isn't a city-state."
After about two hours of wonderful research, I have to agree. Sure, it seems like it at first class, but San Marino has quite a few towns and the urban areas are far from contiguous. Wikipedia (and book sources I went to) list between 7 and 10 municipalities (my book sources are pretty old, that's the most likely reason for the discrepancy). There are plenty more parishes (curacies), but of course you can have plenty of those in a city state. The municipalities, on the other hand, lend credence to the idea that SM isn't a *proper* city-state.
It may be the world's smallest sovereign multi-town nation.
I know you respond to some of your comments. If you don't re: to this, I won't be let down at all, but if you DO re:, it'll definitely make my week.
Also, on the list of places I'm envious of you for having made it to, San Marino is pretty damned high.
@Scott Laux They also had very imprecise definitions and lots of client relations. OP's point is that, in modern times, we have a definition of city-state. Monaco, as an example, satisfies that by literally being one city. San Marino has more than that one city and there is an area within it defined as a city.
Here's more reading for you: www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-city-state-4689289
@Scott Laux it still needs that one large central city
@Scott Laux It's like what The Jarric said, it still needs that one large central city.
San Marino is NOT "one big city w/ some suburbs"
The capital has 4K people. The largest town has 7K people. I made this image from Google Earth comparing San Marino and Monaco, a classic city-state, using nearly exactly the same camera-eye elevation: imgbox.com/PbcdrSBI
Here are the divisions of the nation in terms of population density:
Acquaviva - 1k/sqmi
Borgo Maggiore - 2k/sqmi
Chiesanuova - 0.5/sqmi
Domagnano - 1.3/sqmi
Faetano - 0.4/sqmi
Fiorentino - 1/sqmi
Montegiardino - 0.8/sqmi
Serravalle - 2.5/sqmi
That's fairly spread out. A good collection of what I'd call rural towns. It's not just the lack of "yup, that's a city" density anywhere, it's also the lack of a singular municipality that dominates the suburbs/small towns.
Monaco and The Vatican are obviously city-states because they're singular cities. Andorra is a city-state because the national population density isn't much (0.5k/sqmi) but a full THIRD live in the capital... and the capital's density is a solid 4.5k/sqmi. Basically 30% of the people live in 11% of the land. That's dominating.
Outside of Europe, I don't think anyone would argue that Singapore is not a city-state.
This is all opinion of course, but I'd put San Marino is with nations like Malta and Nauru.
And that is honestly the most I have EVER heard about San Marino. Even to the point of having to scratch my head at the beginning of the video, mistake it for Monaco for a second, then remember "oh yeah! There's a second independent country in Italy besides the Vatican!"
“Most Serene Republic of San Marino” just sounds like a country in CK2
That's because Venice and Genoa had the title of Most Serene Republic too.
also eu4
@LineOfCars most of them also expanded throughout the Mediterranean
madmax21st No. I would never forgive what Venice have done to the Rome
@@bilibiliism Money talks and Venice took advantage of the opportunity. That's just how it goes
If your desire is to sit and accomplish nothing, you can do it. If you have nothing anyone else wants.
I visited before writing a college essay on the time they elected a communist government. An old article describes how there was technically a "revolution." A leader of the Communist party had spaghetti with his followers, picked up rifles and marched to the government building in a mob of several dozen (after already being democratically elected.) They nationalizes the means of production, which amounted to a single warehouse producing souvenirs like keychains and shot glasses. When the system was bad for the economy, the communists stepped down.
Pro-tip: Go to the tourist office and pay £5 for a passport stamp, they're holographic
Heck, the fact they were able to do that legally and peacefully speaks to control the community has over their own resources (even if it was just the warehouse). Which, ironically, is kinda socialist.
This is my favorite comment on TH-cam holy FUCK
A man who controls others is powerful but one who controls himself is even more.
I've been there on a 5 week Italy-Tour a few years ago. It is really, really small. When your rear bumper is in, your front bumper is already out again. Ok. not really. But you won't Need 24 Hours to see everything...
So, you just went to visit Francesco and made a serene little episode on the way there?
I hope that's what happened:)
Yes
@@RareEarthSeries My favorite
hey Francesco's back!
Also you didn't exactly mention that they existed since the 4th century (but it's complicated because they only got a constitution around the 16th or 17th century)
well the title does say "The Pacifist Democracy That's Survived for Nearly Two Thousand Years", so I guess it's implied.
Take heed! These are the descendants of Roman (Empire) exiles/colonists!
3:17 well i didnt expect to see renji's sword in a video on San Marino.
i came here to say this lol
Modern hermits do tend to have an appreciation for anime.
San marino is famous for cheap but of quality "free time weapons " such as bows , swords and crossbows. they sell tons there
@@GiulioImparato "free time weapons" isn't really translating well. Do you mean weapons for hobbyists or something else?
@@roguishpaladin they sell reproduction swords of various kinds, ancient as well as modern crossbows and the usual handmande wooden bows.
I really like these stories about these mini states lately. I am a European yet I don't know nothing about them.
I'm also curious about your travel path. Somalia, then western Europe then central Europe... Where's next?
They have freaking Co-Consuls!
Francesco is NEVER single use only! Good to see him back again, even just this once!
As soon as I saw the title I knew this was going to be about San Marino.
Linden Stromberg Me 2 !
Are you me?
"That's not just propaganda, they genuinely mean it"
Methinks that's not intrinsically seperate to propaganda.
true, spreading propaganda you genuinely believe is easy. for example: we need communism
@@Ariel_emerald propaganda is not "false stuff."
Everything is propaganda.
Yeah, not a great line lmao--but I get what he was trying to say
He said it is not _just_ propaganda.
He did not say that it _isn't_ propaganda.
@@davidwuhrer6704 "its not just propaganda. They genuinely mean it"
This implies people dont mean propaganda usually
While in Italy, pay a visit to Principality of Seborga, practically unonown unrecognized town-state in northern Italy. I've never been there but I am curious of them.
Fascinating take on a fascinating little city-state.😊👍
I like the two older people in the last shot of the story who stare at the camera and don't want to go in the building because they are worried they would interrupt something.
Napoleon: Hey, I got some land, wanna have it?
San Marino: No thanks, we are fine ^_^
Napoleon: U sure? Its completely free...🤷
San Marino: Yup, we are good, thanks for the offer
Napoleon: Aight...have a nice day...or so.🤔
I'm from San Marino and I really enjoyed this video! Thanks
Me: 'I need to get to work in 6 hours, why am I not asleep?'
TH-cam: here you go, a random video about democracy in San Marino
This is the most wholesome episode of this series ever and it kind of brings a tear to my eye.
I agree with the Economist magazine when it argued that nations should adopt some form of the Swiss cantonal system. Cantons would regulate public education and socialised medicine, and would have substantial taxation powers. Each canton would set its public policy regarding controversial topics, such as abortion. Nations would be loose federations of cantons, with cantons enjoying the right of secession. A nation would be defined as a collection of cantons with a common currency and a common immigration policy.
Also known as Canada, and I can tell you this is not working particularly well.
I do not live in Canada. I invite you to tell me more about why the Canadian Federal system is not working well.
It reminds me of the story of the farmer who won the lottery and when asked what he'd do with his winnings just replied "probably keep farming till it's all gone"
5:11 I can almost hear the conversation in my mind:
"Hang on a moment please. We're filming a shot."
"Wha? Oh, Julia, that man is asking us to wait."
"Huh? Oh, oops, sorry."
In the 80s and 90s San Marino was the place to go for cheap electronics, we used to go so often that the owners started learning greek and had descriptions and prices in greek. Keep up the great work Chris, we are waiting for you in Greece!!!
SAN MARINO!!!
I love that nation!
So often forgotten on maps!
I wrote a nice comment but TH-cam crashed...so lets try again, I just wanted to say that I found your channel a couple years ago and have never been disappointed. You make complex subjects sometimes easier to understand (if possible) and experiences that are something that you might not ever get to have achievable. I think you are a great story teller and after seeing your father in person at an event a couple years ago when he spoke, I can see the resemblance to your passion and dedication to Earth.
Please keep it up.
And dont forgett that Abraham Lincon has an honorary citizinship in San Marino
I live in Abraham Lincoln Road in San Marino:)
@@StonedRush it is an weird concept to talk with somebody from San Marino, an country a little bit smaller than my little home town, but still its own country. I allways asked myself how it feels to live in that kind of micro nation
Despite obvious issues like every little city, San Marino it’s a nation with all the problems of being it. Our serenity is entering a very difficult phase, lacking European support cause we’re small and neglectable and feeling every financial or political crisis around us (especially Italy).
Very ironic. Lincoln waged war to maintain a continent sized republic that became an empire.
@@conveyor2 The US is not an empire. We do not, nor have we ever had, an emperor. Or, for that matter, we've never even had a single individual who has been invested with sole autocratic power. The closest we've ever come to that was with Roosevelt during WWII (I'm not criticizing Roosevelt, simply pointing out he was the most individually powerful President we've ever had).
Another great story, Evan. Thanks. Your videos really shine when you make an effort to tell a people's history.
I love the fact that it's not even a clickbait, I recognized San Marino just because he is the old man (the hermit) in the thumbnail, holding our land in his hands!
I was like: "I've seen that painting somewhere...and I know that guy for sure...mmh...wait, are they...are they talking about us? Now way, we famous on the internet now!"
Jokes aside, if you like medieval times or the idea of it, you should visit San Marino in Jule - August, we have an event where we basically recreate medieval/renaissance times all over the city (the same one that you've seen in the video), which is by far the most visited (called San Marino Città), you'll love it!
These TH-cam recommendations are getting wild and I’m loving it!
Hey! I Always Watch your videos of strange tales from all around the world. Seeing this, barely 45 minutes from my hometown (cervia), shocked me. Have a nice stay in our Little part of the world :)
You did it again guys! I have never heard of this place till today.
Right? Seems like such a great place too. Not to mention the beauty of it! Wonder why we were never taught about it. Definitely going to go visit it some day
San Marino history class: And then nothing happened
I went to San Marino my first weekend stationed in Italy. Was a great place. Wish I could go back one day.
What a lovely place
Some of the most rewatchable content I've come across, information dense and beautifully presented.
This country is surprisingly similar to the Dutchy of Grand Fenwick from "The Mouse that Roared."
*Duchy (for future reference). Except The Duchy of Grand Fenwick was fictitious while San Marino is very real. I remember reading 'The Mouse that Roared" in HS and thoroughly enjoyed it thanks for reminding me of it!
Ha ha ha, the couple at the end who were polite enough to realize he was filming and stay out of frame. That does seem like a really beautiful and incredible place. I would love to visit it someday.
Switzerland: I’m the most neutral country in the world!!
San Marino: Hold my neutrality
I love rare Earth. No matter what the topic is, I know I will be educated and entertained. Thank you!
This just solidifies my opinion that no political ideology actually works on a large scale. It's the small size, low population and common interests of the people that keep this state functioning so well.
Okay confederate
I like your description you wrote. It feels like there may not be a lot of story to the place, but I’m sure there are many with in. I like how you ended it. It’s “really nice”. I think that sums it up. I think that’s all we want out of life though? That must have been the appeal. Thank you for sharing your story. 👊
San Marino, a nice little republic surrounded by Italy. Never a better place to pickup ten pounds in a week.
I just noticed all the funny things you put in the end credits to every video. Now I have to go back through every video to read them. Luckily your videos are worth watching twice.
*this* is rare earth
No, *this is patrick.*
Maybe the real rare earth was the friends we made along the way
"Mo' money, mo' problems" is a very interesting philosophy for a state to take. I'm almost certain that it would not scale well at all (if a superpower for instance were to take this stance it might get eaten alive). But the result it produced here is fascinating.
Make sure you stare directly into the lenses before walking back out of the shot, Edna.
Truly wonderful place. Tell you the most important things in life is not about greed for money,wealth or power. Having a close, friendly, reliable & self reliant community is so gratifying, gives you peace of mind, serenity & enhances wellbeing. I will include San Merino in my wish list as a place to visit in the near future.
Napoleon : I'll make you an offer you can't refuse
San marino : nope
The Republic of San Marino wasn't a democracy throughout its entire history. In fact, it probably wasn't what we would consider democratic at all until 1906. Between 1600 and 1906, the Grand and General Council chose its own members through co-optation; there were no elections at all, which actually put San Marino far behind pretty much all other European countries. San Marino's original governing Assembly; the Arengo, was only composed of Noble families and not all citizens.
The same as...roman republic.
Sort of. Yeah both systems heave two heads of state, but at least the Roman Republic had relatively popular elections for their Consuls (albeit weighted towards wealthy voters), which is something San Marino has never done. Sure San Marino is a normal democratic republic now, but I think its just a stretch to say its "always been that way".
I love that I always learn something new in these videos. I've never heard of San Marino at all till today
>Ethnically and religiously homogenous
>Small population
>Dependent on other populations for resources and actual social change
You know this is like the only way a democracy could work, and the only reason theirs does, right?
The last person sentenced to death in San Marino was in 1468. In 1848 the death penalty was formally abolished in San Marino.
"Most Serene Republic of San Marino"
*angry venice noise*
If I called such a beautiful place my home, I would not have any territorial ambition either. Stay at home and enjoy life with neighbours, family and stability. Sounds alright to me.
Serenity is tied to that hermit - he was a Catholic, and Catholic monastics sought to conquer their troublesome passions to have a serene soul with God.
Amen
@john connolly it didn't fit his narrative if you haven't been following the videos.
A wonderful video. The world needs more San Marinos. Let us hope people here in Estonia take notice. (signed) Toomas Karmo (in Nõo Rural Municipality, approx 200 km south of Tallinn)
San Marino: *exists in democratic isolation and harmony*
Rare Earth: *posts video on TH-cam*
America: 👀
SM: 🤦♂️
randalthor394 the US has friendly diplomatic ties with San Marino and hasn’t bothered them dumbass lmfao
There's a little place you might be interested in called "Edinburgh of the Sea." They've got interesting wildlife, they've got Inaccessible Island, they're far away from any land, and they have some... interesting land rights legislature.
San Marino is about One Sixteenth the land area of Indianapolis, Indiana and It's population would fit in one seventh of the permanent seats at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway or about half of Lucas Oil Stadium.
I have to admit it was strange hearing from you about something that's an hour away from where i have always lived, but i am glad i did.
Sometimes to find the best in what you have always had in front of you, you must look at it through new eyes.
Thank you for being those new eyes!