Should Malta Be Catholic?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- As usual, I take a broad swipe at modern religion and politics, all while supporting the thing I hold most dear: freedom of expression.
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The only reason liberalism exists as the dominant ideology of the west is because might makes right, a decidedly illiberal train of thought. As the power of the United States fades, so to will the power of the liberal world order, and with it, your naive views of how the world ought to be run.
@@jacksetter95 Sounds like you're in for a dollar! Thanks!
@@RareEarthSeries I'd say I'm closer to the 2 dollar group of people as I am also a naive westerner by objective standards. Love your videos though, keep it up!
Are you saying that because you think the US is some unique bastion of liberalism? If not, I would love some clarification.
@@Pow3llMorgan That's my assumption. Seems pretty clear to me that that is the comment. In a way, its sort of true. Sort of.
"How will you be buried with respect?"
"I have made it known that I want my corpse to be set on fire and launched via trebuchet at the US Capitol Building."
Cremato-projectilism is the one true way, and the heathens who disrespect it should be eliminated by any means necessary!
What about tree-burial in the trees around the capitol?
@@kingpopaul the point is really the act of bodily becoming a destructive flaming projectile launched at the seat of government.
@@RandomTomatoSoup 🤣
I always say to be Embalmed and launched into Space as an orbital mummy tomb
To be fair Malta is actually very respectful of most peoples beliefs. I've lived here for three years as an atheist and a foreigner, and honestly never felt like anyone judged me for it. I feel as much a part of the community as anyone else.
Nice impression...
Thats what catholics are. No comment , live your own life.
Yo must be wayt
Cool you live here?!
Yes but sadly only 40-50% of Maltese people are comfortable with their child dating someone muslim or jewish person
But dont let that position be taken advantage of!
Looking at Turkey, I think we will have to wait for another 100 years atleast before liberalism enters in middle east.
So, proceed with caution!
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
- Noam Chomsky
Yea I've seen that one at work in my country in 1933. Great thinking.
Guess this had to come
@@danthompson1m Name me a single person convicted for questioning uncontrolled mass-immigration?
Questioning Mass immigration isn't hate speech. Your reasons might be.
Most countries don't even prohibit hate-speech as long as it doesn't overlap with other restriction of free speech i.e. incitement.
@@danthompson1m Yes. I always express my "questioning mass immigration" by suggesting a "bomb the mosque day".
And either you are wrong in suggesting "anyone who questions uncontrolled mass-immigration" gets persecuted or "anyone" includes only 4 people, because that is the amount this charge was brought forward in that year.
You are literally quoting a socialist scholar, not a liberal.
@@RudeFoxALTON Who says I am liberal.
Should Malta Be Catholic?
[Heavy Protestant Breathing]
No
My compromise: the Maltese should become circumcised Protestants, midway between Christianity and Islam. Never mind that they would also become the only Americans of Europe ;)
@@lylecosmopolite I C wat u did there UwU
Tattle Boad right because the catholics never did that
😅😆 heavy protestant breathing
Thank you for showing my beautiful if imperfect homeland. Malta is the roughest of jewels, and showing her for what she is is fantastic. Using us to educate the masses is something I am so proud of (albeit the comments make it seem like some don't appreciate it). I hope to one day do something similar to you, and try and open up my country's vast layers of history and society and compare it to the outside world. Thank you so much, hope you had a great stay on our rock!
Thank you for all the help on Twitter, Alex! It was much appreciated!
of course he had a great stay, he loves rocks!
I hate living here. It's only good for low taxes and pastizzi
@@LOLZfly3r then sod off to another country you love? Why do people come here then moan about the country? -_-
Hey I live there to what the hell
wait, wait, wait...
Did they beat on you in Somalia?
Beat my wife with a stick in the street, assaulted us with rocks, threatened to skin my cameraman with a screwdriver for having tattoos. Yep!
That's shocking
Often the most undeveloped nations are some of the most generous and hospital to visitors.
@@GamerCracked Don't get me wrong - many (most) people were incredible to us.
As I always say, every country on earth is essentially 95% good, 5% bad. The question is how hostile those 5% are.
@@RareEarthSeries What if I were to tell you that they were doing the same stuff when they moved to the West? Obviously not all migrants or "refugees" have become enamored with the Liberal values in their country of adoption.
I'd say that there are 95% good and 5% bad everywhere, and that most of those who find the idea of non-Muslims to be so bad they have to fight them every time they see them tend not to migrate to non-Muslim nations as much as you're giving them credit for.
Instead, it tends to be the average normal people who locals treat as the extremists because they're doing the same ironic bullshit 5% hostility in reverse.
Here you speak my heart, friend.
I really feel that this may have been one of your best yet. Very sharply articulated. Keen and well thought out. Cutting fearlessly to the underlying truths beneath all the tangled politics and culture.
Well done guys, you rock.
They really were loud buses, Evan.
He should have been here when we still had the old buses.
I was once told that Liberalism's greatest flaw was its pretention towards universality: in viewing our virtue only in understanding and accepting others, in politicising compassion, we forget that kindness is, in many cases, a temporary solution. This, too, shall pass. As leaves grow, so too do they fall; such is the inevitable way of things.
Not sure if I believe it, but it makes me think.
I'm happy that at least a country like Malta is still catholic, once the whole European values seem to be lost and catholicism among them
"how will you be burried with respect?"
Do you think i care when im dead and am no longer capable of caring?
Ah but they don't think that's the end, they think of their bones aren't treated with respect that bad things happen to them in the after life. It's pretty much stolen off the Egyptians. It's ancestor worship with a shorter memory.
im not certain i agree with your appraisal of liberalism, because in many cases the gains we've made have happened perhaps only partially because of liberalism, and many would argue, in spite of it. And those gains you're talking about are TREMENDOUSLY fragile, and at this juncture its neoliberalism, that is a very self serving toxic interpretation of liberalism, that is threatening to usher in the new authoritarian wave that would see many of those gains lost.
You could maybe argue that neoliberals arent really liberals (many do), but remember that john locke had shares in the slave trade, and adam smith pretty much wrote the wealth of nations to rationalize why rich people should own the state. It was never about egalitarianism and it was never about making progress as a species, its always been about money, or in other words, its always been about power.
Yes & yes!
@@pBIggZz liberalism is about rights and freedom of thought and neoliberalism is about freedom for things that aren't people like capital and corporations. You could say it was a way of conning the middle class with some crumbs but that is not the principle behind the idea.
Being born in America gives you such a skewed political viewpoint, and I'd know personnally; thinking 'conservatives are Right, and liberals are Left'. Which is out of phase with how politics are seen, uh, literally across the rest of the planet- And if people talk about Issues with Liberalism, you need to parse out if they mean 'the liberal media is conspiring to kill all white men on sight', or 'neoliberalism has demolished our societies these past decades and most people don't even know the definion of that term'
@@RoyalFusilier yes that is why this video and discussion is good. It may help some people. I am in Australia and the conservative party here did similar years ago by calling itself the 'Liberal Party' even though most members hold the least liberal views on many or most issues.
I have had that argument with ppl from the US before where they don't realise their whole country is based on liberal ideas and is a 'liberal democracy'. Telling them that just makes them scream.
It's difficult to determine whether the way we've practiced liberalism actually works without colonialism to feed it with undervalued labour and resources. It's not clear that it's a pattern that the whole world could actually adopt without substantial changes.
That's not to say that aiming for the goal hasn't been a positive force, only to say that we shouldn't pat ourselves on the back too hard in terms of our implementation of liberalism. We may not actually be leading the way, we may just have taken a path that benefits us most.
Not to defend liberalism (nor bash it either) but there have been theories that lower paying jobs might become automated and, say, the garbage-man of 2050 might be more a computer geek than anything else. Obviously this is purely speculative but who would have seen the internet in the 1980s great change can in this era of globalism come in hot and fast. But also I think it may be too optimistic to believe that everyone will be a competent and intelligent college graduate in the future. Some people will always hate school, be just plain bad at it or just be plain thick in the head - so maybe we don't have much to worry about. Who knows. {shrug emoji}
'liberalism actually works without colonialism' pretty sure it does...
@Tattle Boad I just tossed out a random year - which isn't the point of my argument feel free to add a 1 in the stead of that zero
Political or economic liberalism?
@@FOLIPE political and social [liberalism]. economic liberalism isn't really liberalism....they just call it that to confuse everybody...
Lol I’m imagining Evan getting chased by a crowd shouting “Jew! Jew! Jew!” and him showing them that he’s not circumcised to get them to stop.
Jerry Rupprecht actually muslims also do, so not even that necessarily proves anything. Maybe shouting some Koran verses?
Tunisia and Libya were Catholic before the Arab conquest.
I like how this video makes me think about some things differently. Fundamentally we need more data before we assume mantras like "diversity is strength" are true, but we equally cannot reject them outright. I wish that people would grow the courage to question more assumptions on both "sides" of politics.
I'm maltese, why shouldn't it be catholic? I was born and raised a catholic, so are most of the people I know. However, we are also raised to ask questions, to even test our own faith and in turn, fate, because the 2 are linked. So I find it strange, when people of no faith, look at us plebs, and say things to the effect, that we don't ask questions, or think. Oh trust me, I think, I think real hard and wonder how things are going to be in 20 years times, when we enter the dystopian phase of human life on this planet, with all the social non-sense going on.
I love your vids but dont particularly agree with your 'those are the facts' segment at the end as the countries that you listed tend to be the ones that have been the most powerful throughout most of A.D. history of course after their founding but not because of their democracy but their pillaging of other lands and use of slaves and people generally want to immigrate to better-off nations so they would generally be the ones with higher rates of immigrant acceptance. Like you're right but not _entirely_ for those reasons although I assume they've helped.
Good, thoughtful and enjoyable episode. I truly hope more nations will become more egalitarian. I feel sorry for countries where the government dictates what the people should think, especially where free will is not seen as a greater good.
This is basically what I try to tell people.
They should make their own decision, and let others to theirs, without judging over them.
@HEAV¥HAND same would be true If you apply it to christianity. Look at the Americas or Australia for example. Most of the natives got Killed.
@@josecarlosmoreno9731 I am Not a liberal. At least Not for european Standards but pretty surely also Not for US Standards. Idk who are you talking to
@HEAV¥HAND so you basically so belief that all of islam Cooperates to subjugate the world? Congrats, you are schizophrenic. They are even fighten themselves in yemen, syria and somalia. The Nummer of Atheists in some islamic States also increases.
@HEAV¥HAND and you said you were proud of the reconquista, and that simply is a cruel statement.
"How will you be sure you will be buried with respect?"
Dump my body in the ocean for all I care. Whatever is the cheapest and most environmentally friendly method. If you want to go through some ritual to help with your grieving process, that's up to you.
ashes to ashes, corpses to oceans
A smart man once said “when I die, just throw me in the trash”
I said that _before_ I was a man.
I don't the old man was talking about what you consider to be an appropriate disposal of your corpse. He's talking about what the community considers to be respectful. Big difference. It's about the community being more important than your feelings.
@@dirremoire Then the community can do whatever they want. And poke each other with metal objects if they can't agree.
Catholicism and liberalism are not incompatible. You can be religious in your personal life and not try to impose that religion on others through the state.
Exactly. Like he said.
Hans 7 Catholicism is incompatible with with rational thought; liberalism requires rational thought, therefore Catholicism is incompatible with liberalism.
@@jpe1 the catholic church teaches the holy mysteries and the trinity....things that make no sense and can't be questioned so it is incompatible with liberalism. ...also the discrimination against women that the catholic church refuses to change.
MrTrashCompaktor I started to write a comment about the ridiculousness of transubstantiation (if the miracle actually happens then they are actually eating human flesh!) but your points are all good as well.
Communism is atheist. Liberalism is just watered down capitalism.
Evan engaging the trolls in the comments gives me life.
Keep fighting the stupid good sir
Kata jokes its the only reason I made the series and I'm inclined to agree.
I tend not to fully believe my stories. I just want people to have to think about them and come to their own conclusions.
You and your channel have been SUCH an inspiration man... an inspiration in general and yes, especially an inspiration for our channel as well. Thanks for what you do!
Thank you!
Interesting how he constantly mentions escaping one's own idology but ultimately fails to escape the (heavily) ideological worldview of western liberalism and acknowledge his obvious bias.
I literally say in this video that this is an ideology, though, and in many other videos have stated it as my ideology.
There are levels of ideological support. For me, if a better way comes across, I will change to it. That's the value of Liberalist freedom of expression and thought.
This may have been the best episode you’ve ever made. Thank you so much for carrying that torch! Keep up the wonderful work. Love.
I disagree with alot of your statements here, but I'm grateful you had the courage to make them! Love the series..!
Which statements do you object?
@@maxx1014 It would take too much time and effort so I won't explain it. Have a nice day!
The more things change, the more they stay the same. I don't hate you for being a liberal, but I do disagree with almost everything you said in this video, everyone wants to advance towards 'something' some point in society that is 'better' and liberals are ofcourse front and center in that desire, and when I get the chance I always ask them exactly that, what do they want to 'progress' towards. But that is the thing, the ideal future can be different person to person, the whig historiography that insists the world is on a linear line moving straight from some bad oppressive past and towards an open better future is frankly not something I could ever agree with, and infact I would suggest it is in our day effectively academic propaganda meant to make liberalism the normal and obvious ideology, but then thats the thing, liberalism is just another ideology and acting like it is superior to ideologies by not being one is doublethink. I understand ofcourse, it is a natural development to keep it as the system in power, that is how every ideology works, it is to be expected, but it also highlights the single most dominating negative characteristic of liberalism, hypocrisy.
You are right, people have more money then ever before, most people unlike the past are going to school, we have 'equality', we are the most tolerant we have ever been! These are things that Liberals want to see more of, sure, but the focus on this material success over everything else is exactly what most of us illiberals hate, for all of those good things, the reality of modern wage slavery means that little has actually changes in regards to economic reality of the average man, and infact there is an international rich elite with far more relative wealth and power and ability to escape punishment for their crimes then ever before in history, and that average man often is in much the same position as he did before except without a home to call his own and mass debt or foreign exploitation he can do nothing about. How about the collapse of the family? The whiny willpowerless masses of the over entitled? The fact that we have given people the power to find their own purpose in life, and that most of those people then just come to have no purpose in life? For all the golden towers we have built ourselves in modernity, there is no less misery and it is all coated in a spiritual malaise. And I suppose that is just it, a person that belongs to no faith like yourself simply will never think quite the same to someone like myself, we don't see the same things as good and bad.
Yet that is the thing, there is so little actually accepted as subjective in the modern world, you yourself speak of democracy as somesort of innate good that cannot even be argued, you extol the necessity of egalitarianism, but these were ushered in on a tide of blood, and has our world been anymore stable for it? Democracies don't seem to prevent civil bloodshed, the clash of ideologies is the source of much of the unrest in the developing world, and so much of modern politics that is accessible to everyone has allowed a fueling of factionalism among populaces unmatched through most of history. The genocidal regimes and cased of horrific bloodshed are not the ideal states and circumstances that liberals build towards in their desire, but they are pressure valves that are only made possible in the first place because of the modern world we have all made together. Yet if I utter a word of any of this to the average person in my country, the response will be much the same, they will think I am the crazy one for disagreeing with such 'obvious truths' of the world, and when I do run into someone who agrees with me, their sense of alienation leads them to justify horrible acts of violence, they have been assigned the role of antagonist by society, and they become too happy to play up to it since they feel they have no alternative.
And that is the core of my point, people motioned against democracy before in Algeria and Egypt, yet the military prevented democratic islamists from taking power, and the world cheered it on, because democracy isn't a good in of itself, and everyone will agree with that when we get into the theoretical, the reality is that these liberal ideologues don't just disagree with the alternative taking power even democratically, they are horrified, they are indeed ideologically opposed, they are quite clearly no different to any other group once their world view gets challenged in a real political sphere. All for what though, we are supposed to back their grounds for egalitarianism, and I understand the desire to not oppress minorities out of a sense of justice, that is afterall the classic theme of defending the weak who cannot defend themselves. But it isn't quite so limited now is it? It is also based on a fundamental idea that we are all completely equal and should be afforded the same powers, but why should political power be afforded to everyone simply because of their being a person? That is an authority to heavily effect someone elses life even if one is incompetent and non deserving of holding political power, why should the most important thing in the secular world be allowed to those who on an individual note would clearly be disqualified? This is simply another case of letting ideological world views take precedence over reality, because even if we could demonstrably prove to a tee that the less voters there were the more favorable the outcome for the country, how many people would still be opposed to that simply on principle? Just think on that.
This is possibly the most sane reply I have ever seen to a video.
@@conorallcock7647 I appreciate that, thank you.
I couldn't agree more.
hello, are you an orthodox?
@@valenciasj9805 I am an Eastern Orthodox Christian yes.
Those values you mentioned exist in Christian nations. A big contributor being Protestant reformation too. Definitions of a *insert religion* country differs between religions
I think Malta should remain Catholic since Christ was the one who said give to Caesar what is Caesar's... and many Christians understood its importance until western countries fought to remove rulers and dictators to create a secular state. I don't know if this is so in other religions but I can only judge what I was given.
Uploaded a minute ago, comments already look worrying.
Uploaded a minute ago and you're already ignoring the video and reading the comments...
@Tattle Boad Damn bro respect, love your comeback
@@Fiscacondaniel really?? that was the lamest attempt at a neg I've seen in a while 🙄
really shows that the weirdos are the most likely to comment on internet videos
@Tattle Boad Wow, you managed to be sexist against women and men at the same time. Big talk, but it shows what a small-minded person you are.
This video ties together the Somaliland and Malta segments very well, kudos. So insightful.
Who are we doing this for? No freakin’ clue. 🤨🤨🤨
In any case, this was a great and deep video. Everyone should truly watch this. 👍🏻👍🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Yes they should be Catholic.
2021 is the end result of the enlightenment.
Its pretty disingenuous to say that liberalism caused all the good things we have today. If we are taking a scientific outlook on history then it’s all but impossible to know with any type of reasonable confidence that liberalism is a causal variable not just a a correlational one.
Malta! I lived there for several years, and I miss it everyday. It is imperfect as every country is, but beautiful and the people are fantastic.
I so love this channel!! Evan is a REALLY good communicator.
Meet up with geography now. He is in Malta right now
Would've been really cool!
Feels like you're oversimplifying things in the name of the concept of liberalism. When discussing these things, I think one should give a clear definition of the concept at hand so that one does not create confusion as two people may think they're talking about the same thing when they're really not. How do you value internationality and how do you value the net gain of globalism or neoliberalism? Is it by GDP? Is the material excess and monetary gain the be-all and end-all of life?
I concider myself catholic based on how I conduct myself in life and the tradition of ideas passed down which I try to adhere to. I wouldnt simplify it though by claiming that my religious conduct is superior to your ideology. The rational mind always falls in love with its own creations.
Are we at risk of becoming a society struggling with our own meaninglessness? Are we as a society at risk for nihilism? Are we more vulnerable now to ideologies and conmen who promise to do what God used to do for us and society? I don't know and in some ways I don't think so but I wouldnt be ready to sacrifice all tradition on the altar of your definition of liberalism.
Beautifully shot video by the way!
Why do we find that atheists tend to be more ethical?
Because religious ethos come from a place of fear,rather than enlightenment
Religious ethos comes from a place of love and appreciation towards God as the giver of life and all that exists.
"nations that have taken to liberalism have on average done better than those that haven't" China has changed that paradigm and now many countries around the world believe it's possible to remain an autocracy be it religious or not and develop as a wealthy nation, also I would argue that immigrants are not necessary for economic development, case in point, China.
This is a pretty complex topic, but yes you are correct that China proves liberalism (both economic and social) isn’t necessarily required for economic development. That being said China is a perfect example of how a prosperous society can stagnate and collapse if they don’t accept new ideas and technologies, I am of course talking about imperial China. Imperial China was the wealthiest nation in the world for 3000 years with pretty much the same political system they have today. Yes, China has been very prosperous in the last 2 decades but really only because of its openness to the west and the west’s openness to it, if the west were to cut off China or China cut itself off from the west China’s economy in its current form would collapse. Basically China is (or at least has been) reliant on the cooperation of liberalism to achieve that economic success and in order for other autocracies to achiever he same level of success they to will require the cooperation of liberal nations. Perhaps China will one day or is already capable of prosperity without the west but it is doubtful that they would be able to support other autocratic states (assuming they would even want to) making this model pretty much impossible to reproduce. It’s also worth noting that China had a lot to offer the west at first (a nearly limitless work force and resources) and it was assumed they would liberalize, an assumption that has now been disproven making a repeat of this mistake unlikely. Although you could argue the US is doing the same thing with Saudi Arabia, but that is for strategic reasons.
As for immigrants China isn’t really the best example against that point as China had hundreds of millions of people who moved from the countryside to the cities instead of foreign countries it’s just emigration instead of immigration but same idea and effect.
@@andrewlynch4126 Thanks for the comment! I agree with most of what you have said, but I disagree in two points: first that " if the west were to cut off China or China cut itself off from the west China’s economy in its current form would collapse" is simply wrong, while it is true that China relies on the west, China is quickly catching up on many fields that have been until now exclusively the west's , for example China's plan "Made in China" goal is to make their own tech and not rely on foreigh tech or patents. Second, when I was talking about immigration it was about foreign immigration, China has very little immigration and yet it is prospering (somewhat).
I lived on Malta. I was catholic. I left religion behind me. You say wise things.
But liberalism is an improvement of christian morals.. compassion, understanding, mildness for everyone.
The teachings and life report of Jesus is completely different to Muhammeds.
I’d say it’s rather disingenuous to say that liberalism is the source of most of the modern world’s greatest societal ideas (like secularism) when it’s more that liberalism just takes bits and pieces of previous ideas and just meshes it together into what we currently have now. And currently I personally believe that liberalism is showing strong signs of failure, it’s made society just stagnate and start to rot from the inside out. To each their own I suppose however.
I mean if they like it yeah
Thank you for showing us such wonderful scenes of Gozo abd Malta 🙏🙏🙏
Genuinely fascinating video and comments section. I have to say I don't know whether I agree, disagree, or fall somewhere in between regarding the points being made here, but it's made me think and rethink and consider other people's opinions and I appreciate that.
Yep the comments actually convinced me to change my thumbs down to up.
Thanks again, Evan. I may disagree in some aspects and premises but I think it's nice to hear what you have to say nonetheless.
Access to education and being educated are two different things. Poverty may have reduced but now the line for poverty is actually gone up and consequently middle-class is becoming lower-class. So what kind of poverty are you talking about? :)
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
And weak men create hard times.
The narration and the message, wow! Put across so well, Malta and Somaliland are mere examples but the message is universal. Amazing work, brother!
I don’t know, I feel like the people living there should decide
'People' are no single entity. 'People' can't decide anything. That's why there shouldn't be a single identity for 'People'. If you let 'People' decide fundamentals of the society, it will lead to tyranny of majority. Fortunately in modern western democracies we have constitutions which limit power of the 'People' to make decisions.
51% should decide the state religion for everyone? There's a flaw in that suggestion.
@@GamesFromSpace so who decides then?
@@SocialistFinn1 Ideally nobody should be deciding the religion for anybody else.
I for one would argue that
Written history
Is the most important thing that man has discovered.
Most certainly NOT
Liberalism
I feel this video, while it tries hard not to, still takes a very pro-western view. That the only path to greater freedom for people, is to adopt western ideas and by extension culture. Encouraging that, encourages the abandonment of cultures around the world and I think it'd be a very boring place if we continue to all homogenize. Encouraging freedoms is important, and worthwhile, but I think finding paths that work for their cultures and countries is perfectly adequate. And I don't think it's right/just to demand that otther countries/nations/cultures adjust immediately, instead we should afford them the time to change, the time that we had. Let's face it, 200 years ago, the world was very different than now, in 200 years, it will be very different. There's no need to pretend that this time in particular is something special.
That's because the Enlightenment Modernist perspective views humanity as always improving and itself as the main step towards that. Of course this was in many ways shattered by the start of the 20th century, and the individualism it espoused has many problems.
It's a shame that the flaws are not discussed in this video, and that religion is reduced to merely a group indicator. Especially with regards to that Ethiopian man, I don't really think his confusion and anger were understood in the slightest
And to think this channel (sort of) started off because of a stellar rendition of Space Oddity on a space station and has made it so far in such a small period of time. I hope that your father is proud of what he started and what you've so effectively driven forward.
Malta's position at the centre (literally) of the Mediterranean
has made it, through history, be both a citadel and a melting pot....
there may be much wisdom buried in the cultural DNA of all Maltese
They combine the Latin, and Arab worlds. If any nation represents what it is to be Mediterranean, then Malta is it.
How dare another country choose for itself to enact a state religion and yet guarantee freedom of religion to everyone!
All countries should be like my country!
*toots liberal horn*
*compares Somalia to Malta*
It didn't guarantee freedom of religion until secularization came in. It being a "state religion" rather than a forced requirement of the population, is liberalism.
You're praising the thing I'm praising, and then turning around and patting religion on the back for it.
The irony is breathless, and cute.
Hello I’m Maltese, here’s an update on my country. Our youth are abandoning our Catholic heritage and we aren’t sure in how to save our country from liberalism and multiculturalism.
i will be praying for you
I was with you until the end. Is liberalism really the best? Every time someone claim their way of life is the best, they forget that "what is best" is often a product of the environment and circumstances that people operate within. "The best way of life" makes about as much sense as "the best creature". Every creature is adapted for the particular ecological role or niche that they fit into. Humans might be very good at manipulating our environment, but cockroaches might beat us in term of longevity. Whatever is the "best" today can easily change when the circumstances change tomorrow. Hubris is what make empires tumble.
So what did you serve at your wedding?
Your videos make Malta and Gozo look very nice, my parents are Maltese and I was born in the United States, I would like to visit Malta one of these days.
I disagree with one part of your video: Liberalism. Or more specificly, you kind of implied liberalism is not an political ideology people hold and will use as justification for actions against humans. You claim that liberalism is the most anti-ideology there is, yet fail to back it up. Liberalism, like socialism or nationalism, are broad ideological spectrums, encompassing many different sub-ideologies, sometimes overlapping with the others. But to claim, liberalism is free from those "imperfections" and "ideological thinking" other systems or ideologies suffer from is really really disingenious or at the least naive.
I call it an ideology directly in the video. I don't think it is anti-ideology. I think it allows for many ideologies within its umbrella, and it itself can be used as one. However, the form of ideology it takes is certainly different from those that lend themselves to dogmatic thinking.
I certainly don't think it is free from imperfections - again, I state directly on multiple occasions in the video that it is very much so imperfect.
@@RareEarthSeries Fair enough. I overreacted and I want to apologize for that. Sorry. Especially for my hostility in the comment.
Well, you scratched at it a bit in the video, but would you mind expanding what you mean with "liberalism is different from other ideologies that lend themself to dogmatic thinking"? Because as far as I can see, some basic assumptions liberalism makes certainly have many dogmatic people, who might not even perceive themself as "liberals" but still operate, as we both said, in the "umbrella of liberalism".
Keep asking the hard questions man, I love these videos. While I don't agree with you most of the time on the rare occassions you make your politics known, I really appreciate your open mindedness.
Every time I click on a Rare Earth video, I know I'm going to hear a totally unique viewpoint, something no one else has said before. I hope that never changes.
Well, yes.
though it does pain me a little to see unique cultures get diluted in an international mesh.
I wish people could both have a united vision for humanity and not compromise their own cultures.
yeah. local identities and customs/cultures are a big part of what makes humans special and interesting. Taking it away just makes the world more bland
Go back to 1:54 in the video. What is, in this instance, Maltese culture? It's a big blend of neolithic folk practices and history, Roman and byzantine-era contacts, Arab and Berber rule and colonization, Catholic and crusader dominance, and then, on top of it all, even british culture stirred in from their time under the crown. All of that goes into what makes Malta "Maltese." It didn't spring from the earth fully-formed.
Cultures are not static and, aside from some instances of genuine geographical isolation, are always in contact and flux with one another. Whenever you think of "a culture," what you're thinking of is a simplistic anarchronism. usually a snapshot in time that someone decided was "the right way" for that particular culture - you can especially tell this in Europe and the idea of "traditional dress," all of which is just however people were dressing for festivals and whatnot in the 16th and 17th centuries, when the Nationalist movements of the *19th* century wanted a painting-perfect "golden era of us" image to push their ideas.
Cultures are dynamic and mutable. The idea that they're somehow frozen in time is nonsense. Hell even the idea that a culture can be comprehensively defined is malarkey; if Italians are doing something, congratulations, that's part of Italian culture, so long as they keep doing it.
@@TheRusty in another words. Maltese culture was and is international. Back in those days , where the known world was much smaller than it is today. Maltese culture encompassed , many of the known words cultures.
@@cuzz467 All cultures are, at least the ones that have contact with people around htem (Sentinelese culture, for example, probably isn't very international.)
I always enjoy watching your videos Evan, thank you. Free, unbounded and overflowing love will bless humanity far more than millennia of conflict. It was Jesus who preached this message: ‘You have heard that it was said, “Love your neighbour and hate your enemy.” But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.'
Matthew 5:43-45
The message of Jesus was radical then and is radical now. He calls all of us to follow Him and love lives of extraordinary love towards everyone, just as He did. His message is more freeing than any ideology you or I could devise. He is the way, the truth and the life.
Maybe it does, but to tell me if those loafers are from Malta; that would be heavenly 🇲🇹
I never skip a Rare Earth Video
I may have said it before but I'll say still:
I absolutely love this channel and the content you put out. It is so fantastic and well made and I'm happy you are going out and traveling the world doing this. I wish I could do the same and I very much want to. This is channel is so inspiring.
Thank you Alex
You really handed out some things to ponder. Well done.
To think and rethink is my very soul.
Interesting topic but I was always wondering why the most religious country in Central-Eastern Europe is also one of the wealthiest, fastest growing and most prosperous of all former eastern bloc nations? It seems that secularization is not the only way to prosperity.
Ye because you get German money
@@maxx1014 So did Greece and Spain
Because small countries have substantial economic advantages. All the happiest, richest nations are also secular, and becoming more secular every day. If religion and prosperity coincide it is a coincidence, not a causal relationship.
It's fun having been there only in May and playing the 'guess where in Malta that is' game :)
I was there in March too and I remember thinking "this would be a great place for Rare Earth"
"Nations which have brought in immigrants have done better".
That is a VERY NARROW observation with, perhaps, the cart before the horse. People WANT to come to successful countries, not the other way around.
That's sure part of it, but most countries need immigrants. The worst jobs are often done by them because the natives don't want to do it anymore, or there are simply not enough people. I can't find an English version of this wiki page, but I guess you won't die if you have to use chrome once because it translates everything pretty well: nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigratie_in_Nederland#Werving_in_Zuid-Europa,_Turkije_en_Marokko
While this might be a bit extreme, it still happens in most countries. If the people in a country don't want to get paid minimum wage, but an immigrant wants to do so, then I think that's great. Sure we have to protect these people just like everybody else, and that sometimes still fails sadly, and we don't need open borders, quite the opposite imo, but immigrants are welcome if they want to work here. As long as they don't try to recreate here, where they came from instead of supporting the society here, all is good.
@@jadoei13 "That's sure part of it, but most countries need immigrants."
That'a a radical Leftist fantasy.
"The worst jobs are often done by them because the natives don't want to do it anymore,"
More of the same bullshit. Did you see what happened when they arrested all those illegals who were working at a packing plant in the midwest recently? Those jobs were IMMEDIATELY taken by AMERICAN CITIZEN BLACKS.
@@menow. Did you even click on the link I put in my last comment? Also, the US has plenty of illegal immigration and yeah I also remember stories of a state trying to get rid of all of them and having issues with getting enough people to work. Anyhow, just look at how Japan is struggling right now because their population is ageing and there are no immigrants to help out. The average Western developed population is ageing and that causes a whole host of issues because the workforce to non workforce ratio is changing causing old health care systems to be way to expensive and heaps more issues. Anyway, you could try to convince everyone to have 2 or 3 children, probably try 3 cause some won't and so you average 2, but that'll be pretty hard. On the other hand you can let in some immigrants who want to work and it also solves it. This way you don't have to convince anyone to have kids when they don't feel like it, and you can keep your workforce large enough to be able to afford all the things we spend tax euros on. That's not even mentioning highly educated people who might be able to add very valuable things to our economy, but that's a simpler story than low wage workers I guess.
@@jadoei13 " yeah I also remember stories of a state trying to get rid of all of them "
"Trying"? Trying HOW?
"and having issues with getting enough people to work."
So, you're saying a certain state DID get rid of it's illegals? I call BS.
"Anyhow, just look at how Japan is struggling right now because their population is ageing and there are no immigrants to help out."
Your observations seem shallow and almost childish. How is Japan "struggling" and how would immigrants do no thing there other than "help out"?
" The average Western developed population is ageing...."
OK, but WHY is that happening? Suddenly for NO REASON people just stopped making babies, and REFUSE to do so??
"Anyway, you could try to convince everyone to have 2 or 3 children, probably try 3 cause some won't and so you average 2, but that'll be pretty hard."
It will be hard, WHY?? Ever THINK about that? No? Well, perhaps you should.
" On the other hand you can let in some immigrants who want to work and it also solves it"
You think the ONLY thing immigrants bring with them is a desire to WORK?? Man, are you NAIVE!
" That's not even mentioning highly educated people who might be able to add very valuable things to our economy, "
Personally, I think it's a HORRIBLE thing to to for prosperous countries to do when they absorb the best and brightest from poorer countries.
I'm out. Yawn...
I think Evan's statement about immigration being economically beneficial is an oversimplification. Immigration definitely benefited the US economy as it was a (fairly) sparsely populated country in 1600 when European settlement began, although it probably was less beneficial for the GDP of the various native american civilizations. The most significant economic growth in Europe took place before the age of mass immigration and has stagnated over the past 10 years. South Korea, China and Japan have all become wealthy without a significant amount of immigration. Complete isolation is bad for GDP, but that doesn't mean that immigration is generally good for GDP. The type of immigration volume, timing and timescale will all determine whether immigration is good or bad for the economy.
You should really look into the examples you're using of Japan, Korea, and China. They aren't making the argument you imagine they are.
Its weird when accounting the history Malta has been through. It is unique yet so diverse. Malta can be Catholic but it doesn't mean it has to be *just* Catholic. With so much that the country has been through, I think Catholicism should be just one of many examples throughout the island's history. It went through Pegan, Islamic and Christan religions and survived. So yeah, let the citizens of Malta have the freedom of religion as well as freedom of religious tolerance.
Us Maltese will always hold closest to Catholicism, our culture is very set in its ways and keeps in line with Christianity. The Pagans were not close due to the fact that the introduction of Christianity happened under the Romans who were also opening up to the religion. Also, the temples had been built by a society that magically disappeared before the Phoenicians arrived. There is another issue with Islam which is that 'Muslim Malta' lasted only 200 years, and the banning of Islam in Sicily in 1274 affected us as well. Therefore, whilst we kept ideas of farming and certain elements of our language, the religion disappeared for centuries. Malta really only opened up very slowly in the last 100 years, and mostly in the last 20.
But yes, I completely agree, the Maltese should be able to pray to whatever God they want to, or to none if so be it. I think the enshrining of Catholicism in our constitution is a bit more of pride in culture than it is a representation of the island today. Hope this helps!
@@alexanderjacobsen7382 The problem with enshrining religion (any religion) in a constitution is that it creates a nation that fundamentally oppresses those people that are not part of that religion or those people who do not live by the idiosyncrasies of that particular religion. Ireland (my country) was once a "catholic country", like Malta. Women (especially if they were pregnant), LGBT people, protestants etc, were all second class citizens. Women died and were unjustly oppressed by the state because they did not meet the high standards of the catholic morality. Single mothers were virtually imprisoned without trial; their children sold to wealthy Americans so catholic orders could profit. Gay men were murdered and the murderers were not convicted simply because the men they killed were gay.
ALL THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. A nation cannot really be free until the state that underpins it is free of the madness that is religion.
You do realise that muslims are thought to wage war on the infidel until said location becomes muslim. Hmmm... why would the maltese want this?
@@louisxix3271 Thats absolutely bollox! Sorry, but you are showing your ignorance here. Islam, like christianity, has many interpretations and only one of those interprets the word "jihad" in a military way. Wahabism (popularised by US super-allies Saudi Arabia) is the only interpretation of islam that explicitly advocates any sort of violence.
Also, many christian denominations have historically used violence to force their views on other groups, especially in Africa and South America. So, you are just engaging in whataboutary!
I suggest you educate yourself, instead of basing your ignorance on the right wing press!
@@arfnore I suggest you read the bible, which i have and, spoiler, says not to kill people. Then read the A: Koran which condones wife-beating B: The Sahih al Bukhari which on many occasions says to wage war against the infidels. It says to impose taxes on non muslims if they dont convert and if they dont pay taxes they die. I dont care if cristians ever did this, it doesnt say so in scripture.
I am not the ignorant one here, I dont get my facts from "dumb right wing press" as you say. I think the problem hear is you falling for the politically correct narrative that Christianity and Islam are morally equatable. I suggest YOU educate yourself or else move to Pakistan and see for yourself.
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
www.know-britain.com/islam/jihad_hadith_holy_war.html
Even an atheist like me doesn't particularly care if everyone becomes one. I just wanna be respected. In turn, I'll respect you : D
Evan, your Canadian is showing :P
Growing up in Toronto, ON, CAN, our schools teach us that Canada is a cultural mosaic. That like a patchwork quilt, we have these squares of different cultures, ethnicities, that as a whole make this beautiful work. Whereas the US is a cultural melting pot. "Your mother's a Pole, your father's a Swede, but you were born here, that's all that you need, you're an American now" (yes, I know that's west side story, and the rest of that scene says the exact opposite). But my dad, a Chinese immigrant, came over at age 12, into far eastern Canada. New Brunswick. He grew up in a small town, had to learn the language, and the culture, and lost his own. My mother, daughter to Chinese immigrants to Singapore, didn't grow up super chinese. Not really. She went to a Catholic school, in the Singaporean education system, which is largely British, and went to Perdue among other schools in the US. My father speaks little intelligible Chinese. My mom is fluent in 2 or 3 languages and rusty in like another 3, but writes English and some Chinese. And it's interesting to me, that they think that's how things should be. My dad says "take all the refugees, and scatter them into the small towns of Canada, and make them become Canadian, don't dump them into Toronto, or Montreal, or Vancouver, where they can clump into extant communities and never change". And I don't have a particular stance on that matter. I see merits in both, and in the end, however much parents wish it otherwise, the kids will go whichever way they will. Hardline conservative, hardline liberal, whatever. I just find it interesting whenever this discourse comes up, people will argue pros and cons and progress vs preservation, Of old vs young, culture vs religion vs society vs history... Canada, and big city Ontario specifically, idolizes multiculturalism and liberalism. And I think sometimes, it has to be stated, as I interpret this video to state somewhat anyhow, that those may not always be compatible ideologies. Liberalism and multiculturalism, coexisting, may take the form of a melting pot, more than a cultural quilt...
It's certainly a common point that multiculturalism is not a thing because people simply clump into their own community of who they identify with. Afterall, it's much easier to integrate when you're with those who share a common experience. All while, the country tries to be as inclusive as possible as long as it fits the law.
But it's certainly best to understand what multiculturalism is and to define it clearly. Is it about simply people identifying themselves belonging to a foreign country while being able to practice the traditions of the homeland? Is it people living amongst one another from various backgrounds in one spot?
Is US and Canada all that different? Despite them saying they're a melting pot, you still have communities just like in Canada that practice their own traditions.
Hi Mr.Rare Earth, thanks for your video....sub-groups or not, Christians, Catholics, Muslims, Buddhists, Greek Orthodox or any other religion it doesn't matter as long as we all have conscience...... may I also remind you that regardless your religion or belief we are all humans and at the end we must learn to live together.The Title 'Should Malta be Catholic' it doesn't really matter at the end..... but still its our decision to be or not to be Catholic, not anyone else's, as this is a wide discussion certainly not for anyone to judge or to decide......
Should there be religion in this day and age?
Guilherme Ribeiro-Tardin-Costa yes
That's a decision for each individual to make for themselves.
@Tattle Boad Fair point. And funny too. 😄
@Tattle Boad Unfortunately, yes on both points.
Yes, or people kill themselves
Thanks team. I think this was your best episode yet.
You say you have no religion but if you look deeply most of your values are Christian. That women should consent as to who they marry or that we are all equal under the law and judgement is not based upon a person's religion are Christian values. Christian values are the bedrock of what is good about Western Civilization.
Christian values predate Christianity, so really you're making an arbitrary date of when my values arrive that happens to coincide with your belief system. That isn't reality, it's just a desire for history to conform.
Dear Rare Earth, I have such admiration for your work and this video exemplifies the value of what you do. Bravo!
And if we abandon the substrates and archetypes of our culture, democracy, prosperity, and safety will vanish.
Christian world IS the world you praise, Malta should be Catholic.
Catholicism has fought democracy tooth and nail in Malta throughout. Why would you imagine it is the backbone for something it has opposed?
Rare Earth Christianity builds into a society a moralistic structure. It establishes archetypes of free will, good and evil, mans struggle to good, the value of sacrifice, altruism. Enlightenment never undermined these values, only expanded upon them. We know this because Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau et al developed the concepts of human nature and rights on top of the classical definition of Greek Democracy or Republicanism.
If we remove this underlying structure from society, it will change dramatically. Totalitarian society promulgates in places where these ideas, which Christianity played a senior role in developing, do not exist.
Thank you for your response, I know you want to find what’s right.
Beautiful video and more importantly your message. It touched me. Thanks.
Evan, you're attributing the success of the modern world to a single ideology, instead of technological and scientific progress, which are much older than any ideology you or I happen to believe is best.
Ljb A right! The Renaissance only occurred after the Middle Ages because the church held on to the knowledge for future generations
Well, I'm not sure I agree with that. What I had in mind are innovations predating liberalism - the plough, irrigation, the musket, etc. or innovations made by people in the modern era who were not liberal at all - Fritz Haber, Karl Marx, Johannes Stark, just to name a few. We tend to draw conclusions about the moral characteristics of societies based on their material wealth, which I completely disagree with. I think Evan is aware that liberalism is not the only factor that has caused our prosperity, nor even the most important one. I think he's just downplayed the scientific/technological part of the equation to promote his worldview. One of the biggest innovators in tech right now is China, and I don't think Evan would like to live in China.
kind of because the church held a monopoly on education look up the Goliards and Goliardic verse. People not much different to the 'rebels' of today....
Ljb A okay that makes sense!
@@jonathangandara109 no it doesn't. I'm not sure why he would say Karl Marx was not liberal. He certainly was in many ways and benefited from liberalism. Liberalism existed before it was named or become the policy of any political party or movement.
Thank you for this beautifully done video
That's a question to the people of Malta.
Oh boy...no religion people are truly boring...America is a Christian country and most of us do wish to be buried with respect to our religions.
It's not money that makes the world go round per se but cooperation. Human capital is the greatest social currency of today.
I think your misunderstanding what he means because of your experiences "we" live in a society of "our" so he quite doesn't understand want an society of "them" would be it's nice to have a society that at least caters to the needs of the people instead of thinking of others while being a society of "our" think Czechoslovakia
O my word what a good video. Well done as always.
All countries should be secular. Let people be who they are
>"Should Malta be Catholic?"
Yes, next question
I could give a shit less if someone's divinity is a shrub. As, long as they do not expect me to believe in the shrub.
I have my beliefs, but will not force them on anyone else (or rarely talk about them) and expect the same curtesy.
It's called respect.
@Max Gisborne As long as they or me are not harming others, how so.
Not everyone needs to believe in your god.
@Max Gisborne I'm afraid your misunderstanding my way of looking at things, I will talk with and listen to you on views. Until you get to the point of I have to believe just like you.
I try to never be short with others. It's not up to me to prove myself right, just to if you are interested put forth my point of view. But never force my point of view on another.
I was raised Cristian, till I learned how they forced most the world to believe the way they did. My God is loving and would not want that.
@@josecarlosmoreno9731 Well I guess I do wish to sorta, but not force but get to a understanding that everyone can believe what they want without hurting another.
If someone only believes you have to believe the way they do or there is violence, it is really best to stay away from such people.
I really do not understand why we can't accept what others views are, and them in turn them accept what your beliefs are.
Like now every comment is nothing more then people wanting to be right no matter what is said, to me this is toxic thinking.
Ya'll might want to seek some therapy, it might help with your anger issues.
I'm curious about the statue at 7:03
Is that a First World War Australian soldier?
It's about 2 locals that died in WW2
I had a similar experience in Iraq. I was at the Basra city hall and a Iraq official asked me my religion. I told him that I didn’t have a religion. He was shocked, and said this is impossible, since I’m an American I must be Christian, right? I told him I was an atheist. He didn’t understand what I even meant when said I don’t believe in god. He started to get somewhat upset, so I changed the subject. Never told an Iraqi that I didn’t have a religion again.
What a strange title ! I'm sure Malta can figure out for itself whether it should be Catholic.
In the heart of holy see
In the home of Christianity
The seat of power is in danger
There's a foe of a thousand swords
They've been abandoned by their lords
Their fall from grace will pave their path, to damnation
As much as I do agree with the ideas of egalitarianism, free speech and thought, and being part of an international community for the benefit of our species as a whole expressed in this video, something about the tone really strikes me as Western arrogance. The whole 'our way is better' tone makes me go 'yikes'. I champion for human rights and democracy in a country where being an activist for such things is dangerous, but even then some part of me couldn't help but cringe just by watching this. Much as I usually love your videos, this just feels like another stroking of the developed world's ego.
Malta is a developed country though...
Liberalism isn't Western culture
@@TheFinalFrontiersman Well yeah, but he spoke just fine of Malta and its current trajectory, barring the opening statements. Malta wasn't really what I was referring to anyway-- it's the way he spoke of ideas within liberalism common among Western developed nations, ideas which, while I do agree with generally speaking, were expressed in a way that makes it sound like nations of the developed world are inherently better. Maybe it's not what he meant to express, but I do wish he was more careful with his tone.
Is it odd that I find calls to pray like the church bell's or the mosque call mostly soothing
Not odd at all
it is music so a reaction to that is entirely natural
@XvAvX yep fair enough
@XvAvX true
It is not, maybe it is just the musical reaction as some others suggested, or maybe it is the knowledge that you are not alone, that someone else is out there. That there is some purpose in life. Regardless whether you choose this purpose for yourself.
You, GeographyNow - Is Malta hot right now?
We have always been hot it's just recently we've been hotter - and that was my sad global warming joke done for the day, I'll see myself out.
@@nicholasdalli6303 Wait a minute, you could stay with me in Colorado if I can visit you in Malta!
@@LukusCannon Hot as heck there too?
@@nicholasdalli6303 lukewarm, though ski areas are open in the central Rockies already. Trade you?
@@LukusCannon oh yeah you got the rockies there yeah trade!
Best one yet. All hail the lady of the Rare Earth. Pizza be with you.