This Will KILL the Panama Canal
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- This Will KILL the Panama Canal. The Panama Canal, a global shipping route for international trade, is going through a major drought crisis that has affected the canal's efficiency, leading to restrictions in daily ship transit and causing unprecedented congestion at both entrances of the canal. With waiting times going up to 21 days, vessels navigating the Pacific-Atlantic Oceans have started exploring other alternatives, including Mexico's Interoceanic Corridor.
As authorities continue to seek lasting solutions to the water shortage problems, Mexico has announced a $4.5 billion mega project to revive their long abandoned rail corridor to rival the ailing canal and improve their economy.
The 303-kilometer-long Interoceanic Corridor of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec is a rail corridor that connects the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans. This is unlike Panama Canal's lock system or the Suez Canal's sea-level canal design.
And while it has been regarded as an ambitious project that'll significantly boost southern Mexico’s economy and reduce congestion at the Panama Canal, questions have been asked as to whether the corridor can really handle the traffic at the Canal. Can Mexico's rail corridor threaten Panama Canal's century-old dominance in global shipping? What is Mexico doing differently this time to ensure the corridor’s longevity and avoid being kicked out of business again like the Panama Canal did to it over 100 years ago?
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You are full of it
Who still believes it.... Nobody!
Climate change is supposedly making the sea levels rise...?
But the canal in dropping.....
So who's lying this time?? The same ones telling us the Great Lakes would be under an ice sheet... in 1979..
Or the ice caps will be gone by 2015?.....
Somebody's blowing smoke up your azz...
$climate $scam $again....
Very very nice ❤❤ Have a great video 🚢🚢🚢🚢😱
Climate change causes whatever effects you want them to cause.
"and potentially put it out of business as Panama did in 1914" ???????? WHAT did Panama put out of business ????? Learn to speak English .... or even some kind of intelligible Americanese, before uploading videos.
Low rain fall for one or even ten years is not climate change it is weather.
Maybe they should start a "weather modification" program like we do in the U.S. ?
It worked on California this year......
@@muddogtracker7449
Where did you hear that?
How do they do it?
why didnt they do it last year?
@@jbird6609
(1)From water management websites(watershed controllers).
(2)From aircraft.
(3)They were........
Look up Santa Ana River, Watershed Project, weather modification...
They even show the application dates ... ....
Kinda ended it early because of flooding..........
@cyrillawless : We don't have to guess, because the root causes are already known. The recent drought is a combination of El Niño and record heat caused by the climate change.
Droughts in warmer parts of the globe are one of the best known effects of the climate change.
Absolutely!!
Any idiot who puts his money to build an alternate route...is an IDIOT!
What many tend to forget is that a container ship can carry thousands of containers and it takes a lot of trains just to move containers from just one ship to the other side.
And "35 km/hr." speed isn't setting the bar very high.
And let's not forget the cost of moving the containers off of ships, on to trains, and then back on to ships at the other end. There's no way this is going to "kill" the canal; it can't even compete with a canal. The problem the Panama canal has is not this railway, but that due to climate change it's unclear how long it can continue to be a canal effective for transport of ships.
Maybe that's why they call it "beyond facts" 🥳
It probably would only take a couple of long trains, stacked 2 high, to transport the containers. There is a time issue to unload and reload but it’s possible the the sea route to Mexico is shorter, and the cost could be equivalent, given the waits and high cost to transit the Canal.
It sure worth a look.
@@Curt_Sampson it costs up to $500,000 to transit the Canal. Plus there’s always a wait to enter, sometimes weeks.
I question the cost difference without hard numbers.
First of all, I couldn't scroll fast enough to get through your history lesson and then lost patience looking for the actual crux of this proposal. BTW why not offload ship cargo to trains in texas for domestic distribution?
I do not understand why Panama canal would suffer from water shortage , I thought we are told that the icebergs melt causing rise in sea levels.
Ha ha ha ! Yes.
The sea levels are rising dangerously in Climate Catastrophe World but back in the REAL world, there is NO Climate Catastrophe just a Climate Alarmism Catastrophe instead.
The canal acts as a transition between a source of saltwater (the ocean) and a source of freshwater (the lake used as the intermediate between the two sets of locks in the canal itself). Because of a stuck valve and significant shortage of rainfall, the lake is losing water at current.
How many ice bergs are in Panama that feed the lake?
Ice cube effect.
Yeah, all our coastal states are under water now.....
Oh wait..
They were wrong again about that, weren't they.....
Kinda like the Great Lakes being under an ice sheet, like we were told in 1980......
But pay your carbon tax and shut up.........
Panama Canal was built using 19th century tech and equipment. With modern tech and equipment it should be possible to bring it to sea level or at least rebuild using lift locks instead of the current water level locks. It will just take the will and funding to make this happen which could be more difficult than anything.
What's nice is that a ship from one side can have a many multiple destination load for the other side. In other words; a ship from New York can have containers destined to Japan, China, Philippines, Australia, Vietnam and LA, San Francisco, and Alaska etc. The containers once transported from the Atlantic to the Pacific side can be re-distributed to many other ships for the many Pacific destinations..
True but how much stuff do we ship overseas anymore. When I worked in the container terminal we had so many empty containers stacked up here that it became almost cheaper for the Chinese to build new containers then to gather up, load and send a ship back to China loaded with empties...........this poor country gave a lot of their mfg. away.
I doubt 1/10 ot the traffic will make much of an impact, but the 21 day wait at the canal, and a lower cost toll alternative to the Panama Canal by railway, would be a very big incentive to go by rail for some shippers.
It might also encourage the panama government to find solutions quicker to sort out the water problem. I wonder if at all they tried cloud seeding to get rain falling again in that area?
@@brianmorris8045They did, but the crop failed due to no rain.
It'll balance out somewhere... waiting times at the ports will have a major impact 😜
The Panama canal isn't loosing water from climate change.
1. It has had a major valve stuck open for months draining the lake around the clock.
2. Bad Policy in restricting ships with minimal draft to passage, which causes more water wastage. Ships with more draft allows less water wastage.
Centrtal American drought is making the situation far worse since the Solar minimum tranition periof start in 2004 prior the 2008 start of the Modern GSM. The impacts of GSM drought are significant which both the Mayan and Roman empires failing during the LALIA GSM 585-640AD.
think they need to stop cutting down and destroying the amazon rainforest and dont believe everything your masters tell you about the mayan and aztec history.@@jameswalker758
@@jameswalker758 It's trendy to use climate change as an excuse.A few years ago they were using the term global warming, then long before that, they were blaming global cooling. What's next? But the canal will recover. But I am for the Mexican railway being restored again. If only to take the heat off the canal for awhile.
Not True. Valves can easily be replaced ,Climate change can't. Einstein.
@@jameswalker758 .....You missed one important fact: Since humans are responsible for ALL climate warming ( just ask Greta, she will tell you the truth...), then it is Man that has caused the Sun to go through all of the GSM's and other solar periods that directly affect Earth's climate.
To avoid the destructive GSM's, we just need to pass a law that prohibits the Sun from doing this...!! Now I will go prostate myself at the feet of the "Queen Mother of All Climate Knowledge", Queen Greta, and tell her my amazing solution to all climate problems. Surely she will reward me with one of her many polluting gas burning, carbon polluting, private jets for my own personal use.
The railway won't be a canal killer, but the competition should result in reduction in costs.
A major principle on the canal was the control of malaria by the US. The worker death rate plummeted under US Army doctors.
Uhhh. You are not paying attention to current events. Canadian Pacific Railroad was allowed to purchase the Kansas City Southern Railroad that ran to the western ports in Mexico. Now ships can unload in Mexico on rail be taken by train to the St. Laurence River in Montreal and be on their way. Faster than the Panama Canal. Already a done deal.
The Northwest Passage would beat the trans rail link. I got lost trying imagine up through the Great Lakes. They’ll be going around the Horn before anything else. I’m going to vote for a fix in Panama, and a cessation of drought. It’s the jungle. It’ll correct sooner than later.
Doubtful that it would be faster than not unloading and then loading containers again.
You know You may be right. I am just pointing out the plan as it unfolds.@@missiontovenus123
yes but this video is fake.
lol they can offload at vermount, canada
a lot more closer...faster than anything ...airplane.
I’m a 71yo Veteran and when I was on active duty in the USAF going to the Canal Zone was considered a GREAT place to be stationed. Primary because the Exchange Rate was great and the local women loved American guys.
The maids, housekeepers, bar girls outside of Howard Air Base, are those the local women who loved the American guys? Just like the women living around Clark Air Base in the Philippines. They loved the Americans for one reason, to get those Americans dollars and hook up with a sucker to bring them back to big PX/CONUS. Even a pineapple faced, dumpy G.I. with a gut, thinning head of hair could get a date in either Panama or the P.I.. The women thought and E-3 was loaded with dinero.
It mostly worked out poorly for the goofs that decided to marry a local, bring her back to the States and then deal with it 10 years down the road after she was able to get all her family over to the United States; It usually turned to shit pretty quick after ma, pa, baby brother and little sis finally made to the U.S. and got their green cards, actually it turned to shit even sooner. I have story after story of former service members who screwed the pooch and married one of the locals they met while at Howard, Clark, Cubi Point or Subic Bay. They were all warned before stepping one foot off the bases in Panama or the P.I., "Don't think about marrying one of 'little brown eyed beauties. You'll be sorry'.
Lucky you. Was you there in 1989?
$$$$$$
Local women grabbed your $$$$$$ but neverthless hated your guts !!!
Good memories. So maybe you have some sons or daughters in Panama that you don't even know about?
Of course, all Panama has to do is build some containment tanks and pumps so they can re-use the lock water instead of dumping fresh water into the ocean every time, and the Tehuantepec railroad will be SOL.
They have some rather clever water conservation techniques already employed. The lake seems to have become a bottle neck because they appear to rely on it maintaining a more-or-less constant level.
"Beyond Facts"...
An appropriate name for the group presenting this video...
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No, it wouldn't be the "final nail in the coffin" for the Panama Canal. It will eventually just dry up due to too much water being lost over time to the oceans and not being able to replenish the water effectively. That is simply the inevitable result regardless of what Mexico does with a rail-line, or whatever they're building, to move ships from coast to coast.
The water replenishment after each ship takes the trip comes from rivers and lakes flushed from the high mountains not the seas. Unlike the Suez that does not require locks the Panama does require locks. Each tIme a ship passes through the Panama Canal all that fresh water used to float the ships is flushed out and lost to the seas. It's wasteful however it was never a concern with a year round abundant rainfall into the surrounding high mountains. However, now with a drought and climate change perhaps the Panama Canal is doomed over time.
With modern equipment seems like they could now cut a sea level path across the entire route. Hell they remove complete mountains now.
@williamblake8650 : That would certainly be a solution unaffected by the climate change.
But cutting through all that ground is not trivial, especially as you need to keep out the water on the existing canal unless you want to close it for years.
Yes, we have modern technology now, but it would still be a gigantic undertaking. A construction project that would dwarf pretty much any land moving operations humanity has ever done.
Those are Asian countries that do that because commercial loans can be as low as 1 percent.
Not commonly known is the fact that the two oceans have different sea levels, and different levels of high tide. At the entrance to the Panama Canal, the Pacific Ocean can rise as much as 20 feet, but 45 miles away, the difference between high tide and low in the Atlantic is just three feet.
Or a lot closer to sea level at least.
@@JariJuslin , just one correction:
This solution would still be affected by climate change.
A better idea is a Mag Lift high speed rail line coast to coast with freight cars traveling 200 miles an hour. Next add slow speed underwater turbines to any nearby rivers or streams moving 2 to 5 miles an hour to supply power for the project.
This project requires very sophisticated container handling facilities, with possible benefits that can sustain it in years with ample rain in Panama. First, Mexico as the destination, would get improved ports. Second, you could use ships larger than Panamax across Pacific, and split cargoes to different destinations in Gulf of Mexico and south Atlantic ports of USA, and the same on the way back. This is how ports near the mouth of Persian Gulf make business.
Beyond "Facts" is "Fiction". ICYDK.
Who did the Panama canal put out of business in 1914? It took you 7 minutes to answer the question. I doubt it would have the capacity and make a significant dent in panama transits. Unless the water shortage keeps up.
How long would it take to unload and load large container ship?
How many ships could they handle at the same time.
Would it be possible to dredge a significantly deeper channel through the lake to reduce water usage?
We really need to construct a sea level Panama Canal, however it will cost Billions to do this.
All the money we gave Ukraine, could have funded many such passageways.
@@AM-dn4lk Also all the money you gave to Jews...
They could employee all those helpless souls coming to America looking for work.
The lack of rain is very temporary. The entire west coast of n america receives all its precipitation from the pacific ocean storms. Every once in a while, some areas randomly get droughts. If you look at the big weather picture from the satellite’s, you will see how the same thing happens on different parts of the coastal areas. They are anomalies.
the northwest passage ' around northern canada ' is almost ice free now and is free for all to use .
The Northwest Passage across Northern Canada's high Arctic wilderness tundra from Greenland's coast on the East to Alaska on the west is already used infrequently during summer months, but for safety sakes the Canadian Coast Guard will provide guidance under strict circumstances, [no passenger ships, freighters only] Climatologists project by 2060 the route will all be ice free.
An Ice free passage will do wonders for free trade and provide Europe and Asia with a shortcut for trading purposes.
Can they dig 2 side by side channels the few hundred km's? or is Mt ect make that not viable? Straight through shipping and less distance down to Panama must save even more for ships?
Just 6 hours? But that doesn't include the time it takes to off load a ship, load rail cars, unload rail cars and on load a ship. And the shipping company will require two ships instead of one.
The unloading of the ship can be done directly onto rail cars and the loading of the ship directly from the rail cars, so no intermediate stacking with associated loss of time.
As for needing two ships, while that is true, those ships will each sail less than half the distance (assuming same distances on both sides and subtracting the width of the isthmus), so that should even out.
@@apveening , even so, it does seem logic that using two ships instead of one will make the whole operation relatively more expensive.
Now if one could put a container vessel on rails, carry from ocean to ocean, you'd be onto something.
A PanaMax carries 5,000 TEU. This would result in a train about 50 miles long. Really?
A Post Panamax, introduced after the canal's expansion, carries 14,000 TEUs. Tell me how this would work.
Off-load time + transit time + Reload time, no matter how efficient, will not make this very attractive to the global shipping industry.
flash news for mexico , soon we will have nothing and be happy , so there will be no cargo flow... once again.
I was just thinking that it seemed like you had a president who actually cared for the people promoting a scheme like this one.
Just being curious... who are you referring to as "we"?
@@JusticeAlwaysoh , dont worry about it , you are included.
for sure thank you Klaus happy in paradise ???
@@nknumero
Ok...nothing to worry about!😄👍
it cannot match capacity, however they could move enough to make it profitable
What we have is an engineering challenge. What we need is a "dry canal" where the freight ship (any type) is put on a rolling thing like a flatbed rail car then put back in the water like someone with a boat on a trailer hauled by a pickup truck would do. Of course it would need to be supersized. Could it be done? Maybe or maybe not, depending on the weight (mass) of the ship to be moved.
Pananá already has an operational rail line along the canal route that is used to haul containers between Colon and Balboa. It could be twinned and upgraded fairly easily…
The image of the ship being towed on the rails reminded me of the Fitzcarraldo !!!
if they pass a naked sunbather, and the crew all gather to one side of the ship to see, the ship could loose balance on the track and fall over.
Imagine a couple of ports with 4 rails running between them. Two rails running east, two west.
Design those ports so that the train pulls up next to the ship, those intermodal containers are loaded from the ship onto the train, transported to the other end, offloaded onto ships and then hit repeat.
Maybe intermodal containers, crane systems and rail cars could be modified to speed it all up.
dream on.
since the canal is also being used by the USA to bring her fleet from here to there and back.
THEY have therefore an interest that the canal will never close.
Why don't they just move the whole ship? Via rail?
1 to 3 days to unload a ship depending on the size. Than you have to have another ship on the otherside, that is a big expense for the shipping company, reload and get on the way again, so an average of 4 days lost at a much greater expense IMHO. I dont see it being all that popular.
Cheers
Guatemala is planning the same thing...
Sensationalist B.S. In any case, what happened with the other Panama Canal alternative across Nicaragua?
@wotan20 - The Chinese billionaire lost a lot of his wealth so gave up the project before it had even started.
@@who9387Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that. All I knew that at one time was lots of talk about it and excitement, and then nothing, just silence.
I thought the ice bergs were melting going to
sink florida how does this make sense.
yeah, me too, that's what the Climatoids been saying, them fools
All that money and they can't pump water into the canal. Come on, I took up mechanical engineering and I passed a one question finals, one exempted, 44 took the finals & 40 failed. The one question was about water pumping in & pumping out. It ain't rocket science. It's all about $$$$, the $$$$ was & is mishandled or missing. 3.98 million $ was paid to use for one ship, a small portion of that can be used to pump water back in. But...
It won't put the canal out of business. There's far to much business for that. Todays container ships can have there containers shipped overland. There's a lot more to shipping than boxes of trinkets for housewives.
the blather is strong in this video
This video is yet another instance of using the bait & delay tactic, usually going into history, before getting to the point.
I saw nothing wrong with the brief contextualization given in this video, tbh.
This is a perfect time to dredge the canal and do repairs.
Nature will bring rain soon and the Canal will operate in better condition.
Gatum lake has dropped by 6 feet --- so what's the solution ?
Simple -- pump in sea water - until the rainfall returns to normal.
The cost is going to be a fraction of creating a new canal in Mexico.
Build a shipping canal together with the U.S. along the southern border from Brownsville, TX to Tijuana, MX. Share the cost, the maintenance, and the operation. Straighten the border out so the canal cuts through each country equally.
Why can't Panama install water pumps to pump the used water from both ends of the canal back up into Lake Gatun ? They could add the cost of pumps and energy back into the ships' passage fee.
because they'll salt-out the lake.
put in desaltation plant then no salt water in lake
@@manontondalan9941
I would be more than happy to give them some of rain clouds we have had here in the UK for the last four months giving us record rain fall. It is rare theses days we get to d=see a sky that doesn't have clouds in it or more usual completely greyed out. Even our Summer last years was over cast. Whilst other parts of Europe were having Hot sunny weather we were under cloud. and much colder than normal.
Yes we don't have "major" water shortages and our countryside is actually "green"!?!
A handy backup sums up the story. Unloading and training across by rail and reloading not a financial success.
Why can't they backpump the water used in the locks into the canal? That's the method used in Inland Waterways in the UK. It massively reduces the amount of water used.
I think the new locks already use holding tanks in order to re-use water.
too much water to move, can't be done, would take days for each of the 6 locks
Panama Canal also they can run a railway line from one end to other end similar Mexico's.
Given the huge sums of money at stake I would have thought that sending a few huge tankers full of fresh water through the canal to then offload their water into the lake, just might be a worthwhile endeavor.
no,the water needs first to be on the top, on Gatun Lake
@@josepeixoto3384 Whatever the logistical issues, given the huge amount of money at stake, I'm surprised nobody can come up with a solution.
If huge cargo ships could be laid on Rail track then surely two way traffic of ships could be seen connecting both ocean and ocean to track to ocean transportation could be seen.
A huge floating dock will equalise the land level and from land ships could be pulled on track. Same way again pushed from land to floating dock and once it is submerged ship would be released to ocean.
A huge conveyor track would make ship transportation on land and deliver ships at both ends.
certain types of cargo, such as oil tankers can't be easily and safely unloaded and reloaded quickly, and would still have to go through the canal (the largest oil tankers are TOO BIG for the canal anyway!). Redesigned cargo container ships could be made to quickly be loaded and unloaded by having flat cars be driven on and off the ship, with cranes finishing the job. Maybe a "super train" could even be loaded with an entire ship driven into a dry dock?
why use meters on heights and miles on distance ??
Panama canal has already updated its locks with new larger locks and the water is now recycled by large pools. Just visited the Panama Canal.
Check out recent rain patterns in Panama for more than the one year chosen by the presenter. They are not experiencing long-term drought. The main problem with the canal now is that they have widened it to accommodate larger vessels, resulting in more water flowing from Gatun lake above (part of the canal) to the two Oceans below, through wider lock doors. While climate change is happening, it seems too many people are willing to chalk up too many unfortunate events to it, without researching more.
Gatun Lake is the freshwater lake fed my freshwater rainfall and is key and each and every time a ship is released from passage all that freshwater from Lake Gatun is lost to the seas.
@@user-kp2rr8xf7x Right. And my point was that the newer, wider locks they have built when they widened the canal have caused more fresh water to drain off into the oceans, whereas before it was sustainable.
They need to use less water for the panama canal by pumping the water back.
For the cross country dry land option, have a bath tub like container for the ship to enter. With hundreds of wheels under it have it roll cross country to the other side. then have it re-emerge into the water on the other side. Huge engineering investment but cheaper then canal by far.
They already do that. Recharging an entire lake on the other hand, presents problems of its own.
@@PhilJonesIII
Where have you seen moving ships on land? i think its mostly small boats in Europe isnt it?
Part of the problem with the panama canal is every time a boat comes through it discharges water. By pumping it back they can save the lake some water.
@@PhilJonesIII So where have you seen ships moving across dry land? I would like to see it.
Whats the Panama canal water management system? Do you know or just making noise?
When I saw the title, I thought Mexico was building its own canal.
Me too.
A better canal would affect Pacific coast to Gulf coast railway business for BNSF, UP, CPR & CN
Nicely explained. Yes, it seems the Mexican corridor will work alongside the Panama canal, offering less waiting time for some cargo ships.
Panama Canal can still be used if they install large pumps and recycle the water or use sea water to fill the locks.
Also I suspect the canal maybe silting up and becoming shallower.
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Plenty of delayed freighters in line, and the Chinese canal construction north of Panama as competition.
That's just a........ whisper, HKND closed its offices in Hong Kong in 2018, the development company who signed the agreement to build the canal with the Nicaraguan government in 2013, it's a dodo!?!
How many of those containers will be broken into, or totally diverted?
Pump sea water from the coast to the lake?
Can they do what the thumbnail show?
Haul the entire ship on to rails and tow it across to the other side and launch it into the ocean.
Amphibious super container ships!
Gota love photo shop...
That's why I "Disliked" the video. I don't really want to see this channel again.
Let's correct the record here a little. Climate change may have something to do with the water in the Panama Canal drying up - but it is not man-made - it is the natural cycle of the earth's climate that happens over time all over the planet.
With that being said, imagine how much better it will be to sail straight across the land instead of having to rely on locks that take time to drain and fill to move the ships. I guess time will tell if this will work.
Pfffth. Panama has a Railway system running from Manzanilla on the Atlantic to Balboa on the Pacific about 60 kilometers. and they're already plotting and planning how to expand that service. 300km vs 60kn
The concept sounds "environmentally friendly" to me. 🤔
It’s all well and good, but are the Cartels going to be a problem
The ship-canal can be repaired. It is to be envisaged that it is not an "ab initio" work as it was in 1889. Partly built & functional canal is half the work done, that can be viewed as an "asset" (like a partly built house).
It is generating politically motivated competitors, in Nicaragua or Tehuantepec isthmus in Mexico. Both are wholly unnecessary. Repairing (or re-building) an existing canal is far more cheaper.
Basic flaw in the Panama canal design is the Gatun lake, that has been used to water the ship-lifting operations, by means of a series of locks. Those days (1889) lifting ships by means of locks must have looked a "revolutionary" engineering idea that is unnecessary now, but must have looked necessary as an alternative to digging the canal to a depth of 80 meters. Today's Technology obviates that (but with the necessarily huge expenditure, yet far cheaper than digging a brand new canal in Nicaragua or Mexico). Separate Gatun lake first, form the canal (& the associative watering for raising a ship), except the normal discharge of Gatun lake through the canal. It can be done by "damming away" Gatun lake (coffer dams will do, with a steel "diaphragm" wall, as is done in some dams in the world). Preferably "no lock" (or one lock each at both - Atlantic & Pacific ends). After stopping the Gatun waters, the dry bed of present canal can be dug to sea level (at least, or some 10m for ships draft) - after building dams at both Atlantic & Pacific ends to stop ingress of sea water during this repair phase.
The Arctic Ocean is losing its ice coverage. Once the Northwest passage is ice-free, the canal will lose a lot of traffic.
What about the Chinese Nicaragua Canal? Are the building it? If so, when will it be completed?
No, it went the way of Evergrande!?!
I thought sea levels are rising. So why would the canal dry out?
I am curious, where they get all the video footage. Russian trains in Mexico?
Dig a sea-level canal from one side of Mexico to the other. It'd be a helluva BIG dig, bigger than the 'big ditch' by orders of magnitude.
It’s easy to say, load and unload ships but it will take time, also you’ll need a ship on each side. Sounds like a pipe dream to me.
Shipping Contaiers should make this method more efficient.
Main job: See the 'canal'/train line authorities as container freight brokers, not merely transporting companies only.(1)
In a way take over responsiblity at the one side harbour over the cargo, transport it to the other side and broker on the rest of it's travel. Making waiting containerships (in a way like taxis in a waiting line at airports or train stations) wait for the next suitable cargo order to take on according to own estimates to arrieve. (There could be plenty of money to be made with the okay of the deep states accordingly.)
(In core a type of 'yankee job' again, funny in a way?)
1 - If I build the facilities to load and unload the containers anyway, there is opportunity to change the order and direction of destination of the containers as well of course and offer this as an additional service ('We'll find the cheapest passage on for you on the other side, guaranteed') - in a way like with rail freights by use of marshaling humps. (Make the disadvantage of loading-unloading a USP.)
(Mexico should feel free to talk to China first, oops.)
So each shipment would require 2 ships: one on each side of the Isthmus. I don't see it happening.
Great idea, lets create another Mexico City of 35 million.
Can some one please explain to me why it is not possible to dig a 30 meter deep trench? I have seen mining operations that were far bigger than that.
The length of the canal is 82 kilometers so the amount of material you'd have to move is something that takes mining operations decades to go through.
And that assumes soil that's compact enough to run record-heavy equipment on, which is not the case for Panama.
Also, you'd have to somehow keep the Gajun lake out from that trench, and it sits 26 meters above sea level. I understand one of the main problems with the original construction was that the soil is prone to landslides, ie. digging a trench that's significantly lower than the current water level would need you to build actual walls to hold back the water. The soil itself does not hold that well.
If you could just close the canal for a decade and let the lake go dry or salt water, it would work. But that lake is also a critical source of fresh water for the surrounding cities and fields.
Finding a completely new spot for the canal, one without major freshwater bodies on it, might work better, but then you need to start from scratch.
So most likely they'll wait until the situation is so bad you can clearly show it being profitable in long term for potential investors. As long as there's still hope of us tackling the climate change there's a risk the investment will not ultimately pay back.
@@JariJuslin Thanks for the explanation.
Perhaps if we were not shipping thigs all over the place the climate would be doing better.
@@lostvisitor The "climate" doesn't care about the weather, it's just the weather, we have to do the same and build things to cope!?!
@@TomTomicMic or stop building so much so big.
We already use trains in the United States to move freight from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean and vice versa.
Yes, I believe it's called the mini land bridge and micro land bridge in the industry
"Beyond facts," says it all.
I have always wondered why they didn't think of just dredging the canal. Aren't the Atlantic & Pacific at the same sea level?? No locks. no levy's, no equipment...just water...from one side to the other. May have something to do w money, you THINK ???
a desalination system can solve this problem in no time they can fill it up faster than rain the plant is easy to build and they can use solar or wind to fuel it
their are massive desalination systems now yes there is a price tag but it will ensure that the canal will function and the price tag doesn't exceed 600 million to 800 million for the system they can use fuel to get it going fast then move to renewable energy
Please, when?
Aye. A large modern container ship might carry 15000 TEU. Put them containers on a railway and (if my arithmetic is correct?) you have a 100 kilometer long train ??
Your math is correct
You don't need to put them into a single train; the distance is relatively short, so you can have trains going back and forth.
But yes, it's a lot of containers.
Perhaps 75 km, if you stack two containers per one car 10 m (33 ft) long. Note also that the projected capacity is ca. 5,000 containers per day.... Back to arithmetic. Cargo would be loaded on 75 trains, and sophisticated unloading would dispatch them over 24 h, i.e. every 20 minutes. That even allows cargo streams from 2-4 ships in the same time, assuming a single track in each direction, splitting into many tracks close to the destination port.
With today's technology, they should level out the terrain where no locks are needed and make it like the Suez.
The Atlantic entrance to the canal is further West than the Pacific side.
Correct, always a nice trick question for know-it-alls.
@@apveeningJust like the question of what is the farthest Eastern US state?
*Alaska
@@michaelh411 Starting in the center of Detroit (Michigan), going due south, what is the first non-USA country you will enter?
*Canada
@@apveening Just learned something new today 😁 Also I forgot to say that Alaska is both the farthest Eastern and Western state. This confuses most people. It's a good bar trivia question for a beer.
Turn Panama canal into large sea level canal not requiring any locks.
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Thanks!
Hi robertpayne9009, thanks a lot for your support 🙏
Not the full story. New locks were built to take the largest container ships (neopanamax), and this has played its role in water loss, as has deforestation
Not going to work,they'll desalinate and fill Lake or just pump water from sea into lake😊
Sea levels are dropping ? According to NOAA ---Global average sea level has risen 8-9 inches (21-24 centimeters) since 1880.
In 2022, global average sea level set a new record high-101.2 mm (4 inches) above 1993 levels.
The rate of global sea level rise is accelerating: it has more than doubled from 0.06 inches (1.4 millimeters) per year throughout most of the twentieth century to 0.14 inches (3.6 millimeters) per year from 2006-2015.
In many locations along the U.S. coastline, the rate of local sea level rise is greater than the global average due to land processes like erosion, oil and groundwater pumping, and subsidence.
This route is much older than the 18th century. The Spanish Galleons in the 15th century did the same thing, they would sail Spain to the land on Gulf of Mexico side and pack the silver and gold across land to Acapulco and ship in other galleons to China. That is how Sir Francis Drake et al got rich by robbing the madden galleons off Cabo San Lucas before they could make Acapulco. Nothing wrong with this route, trains currently move many cargo containers around the countries from ship to warehouse nowadays, just logistics.
It needs to be done through one lock lift all the way up you could put side-by-side hydraulic lift locks and re-use the water somehow should be done through ships power but whatever, One goes up while the other goes down, you could use ship thrust through piping to drain one lock as the other fills, and my wife just said if you use my idea I better get paid!!