Im 51, separated for just over a year. I have no desire to get married again. I am embracing my life for me, and being present for my kids. It is a relief to get out from under that cloud of feeling like I was not enough for her.
missmolly - Well said. Some men (particulary "MGTOWs" as they call themselves - men going their own way) need to believe certain life lies about women and male-female relationships or they would implode. An ego thing, and I don't hold it against them anymore. A man should, at most, compliment a woman's life, not be the focus of it. Life's too short for childish men and there are a lot of other things out there for us to enjoy!
bla - Studies and science? hahaha. There are perspectives and beliefs, and we all know what MGTOWs would have everyone believe. Society is messed up thanks to MALE NATURE: white-knighting men who need our validation. Yes, we took advantage of that and as a result, we are in control now and will be for a very long time. Go MGOTW: stand in a corner and suck your thumb, but such protests won't change reality.
Carly Ellison All men gifted it to you? Or to you all (the herd)? Or was it just one man you extorted? Well, how proud you must be. How strong and independent with the 401ks, life insurance and investments of men thoughtful and generous (dumb) enough to name you a beneficiary? Yeah, That's something to really gloat over little girl. Congratulations on slam dunking the mgtows' argument for them with your comments. You are not the sharpest tool in the drawer are you?
he's a rich guy so in reality ? rules does not apply I have money But I do not flaunt it.. The Beatles got it all wrong as you can buy love or facsimile "smirks" I've just never tired it or even know how. No clue..
I'm 57 and separated from my wife. As I grow older, I find that I have no tolerance for the over emotional nonsense and BS that comes with the dating scene. Being single is just fine. Marriage was a total waste of 16 years. I got a great daughter out of it, but that's all.
I'm older than ya'll. I'm fine with being single. I don't even wanna mingle. I did my womanizing in my 20's and 30's and I'm all fine with that. Don't feel the need to have a partner and life is best solo. All my friends that chose married life is now divorced. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Iñaki Garrido1 When I was at the court house, I got talking with half a dozen guys between the ages of 19 and 25. At least half of them were suicidal because of child support. The mothers just kicked them out because of the child support they would get. Don't listen to idiots like Marb Rob. Have a health, happy life.
I feel like one way to severely curtail hypergamy, at least in regards to women with children, would be for ALL men to avoid single mothers. If leaving the father of her children guaranteed she'd be single the rest of her life, how many fewer women would walk away from otherwise perfectly good marriages or relationships? Guys, don't get involved with single mothers!
Agreed. Another VERY, very, VERY good way to curtail hypergamy is Dowries. Every woman should be expected to supply her husband w a HUGE block of resources. In the east this is so common that Men will not marry without a dowry. And, as the first husband gets ALL the cash (or real estate) second marriages are cut down to nearly ZERO because she is bringing far less to the table, AND, she is immediately seen for what she is: **dishonorable** for wasting the first husband's life, and her father's hard earned cash.
Anonymous Near Seattle : Damn right, leave single mothers alone (single thru failed relationship), they lie, play professional victim, worthy of an Oscar. Woman with sh*t factories and ankle biters are not to be tolerated.
Right on, those men who kick again to the curb/avoiding those single moth-ers who had abandoned their marriage and family, help restore fairness and justice for all. :D
I became a a widower in 2003. Met someone in 2006, married her in 2007. I filed for divorce in 2015. The first wife was a NAWALT. Second one became a nightmare. I'm a Monk now.
He talks like his marriage is an exception to what he preaches. His wife must be a broken woman in some way to stay married to a guy who actively preaches against women and marriage.
@@holdencaulfield8239 Nope. She can leave him anytime she wants and take half of his wealth. Rollo took a big risk going out public. His wife understands that Rollo’s books and TH-cam channel is a business that generates substantial income.
The Reviewer so we are giving out medals for not lying now? Lol. Before you praise his forthcoming and honesty, you know he is using a fake name from LA Confidential, right?
@@holdencaulfield8239 I am not sure if his name is real or not, but why would that matter? How is that relevant to what he’s talking about? What he “preaches” makes a whole lot of sense. The problem here is that you do not like him and think he is anti-female. You just don’t really understand what he’s talking about. No where does he suggest any harm to women. His information is helpful to a lot of men, especially when the data suggests (unsurprisingly) that almost all women have kids while most men do not get to create an offspring. Women don’t struggle as much as men to find a partner.
I'm a 54 year old guy who has a GF but if I had to get out there dating again it would be very very hard. Most women in their 40s either have kids at home which is a major pain or they're fat or unfit. Yes, there are good women out there but finding them is incredibly difficult. And give that we've only got so much time on this planet is it worth all that work trying to find one?
Mark Houghton Funny, one of concerns as a widow is men thinking my teenager is their struggle. Im self sufficient and not looking for a Daddy replacement.
@@genus-belowfamilybutaboves4637 fine but having a kid to be responsible for means you're simply less available - you can't just decide at the last minute to go away for a weekend or fuck like hairless apes in your living room. Your SMV has gone down the toilet at least 3 points.
Short answer NO , if you date 30 year old they want kids , if you date a 40 yr old they have kids, a 50 yr that’s good looking with no hangs ups , good fucking luck.
@@stuartkarlson4135 Women become invisible to men when they hit 50. Why would you even get with a 40yo, she’s a fast depreciating asset by then. But, yeah you can’t really win, because either side of 30 she has baby rabies.
I think the whole point that Rollo is making is to avoid the pitfalls of marriage and simply enjoy life. We don’t need to overthink this hole adventure we call life. Be content, be happy, and live well. I’m 57 and quite content. 😎
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Mark W This 'hole adventure' is really the point though right? :)
@@rawtee8957 When I read your comment I initially took it as negative, I thought you were implying he was lonely. Then I realized you meant being unattached is a happy place to be, which has nothing to do with loneliness. Thinking about it, from now on I will use 'unattached' and not 'alone' when typing comments here and other places about myself.
I know of one woman that did this about 12 years ago. Had been married for 20 years at that point. Had a great "provider" husband, a 21 and 16 year old daughters as well as a 12 year old son. She was a full time homemaker (hubby was pulling in the cash at work). Nice suburban house. She decided to go to work part time to feel "useful". Some guy at work started sweet talking her. Less than a year later she abandoned the family, filed for divorce, and took half of all assets. The kids stayed with dad by her choice. Women are awesome, huh?
@@raymondsmith6315 Wow, you could be speaking about me, but I was a married for 28 years. I traded cash and pensions for my 3 kids. Its 5 years later, I'm happy and the ex is very angry and broke. Blames me still for everything even from the state she moved to.
@Maximus DM7 most of them will regret it when thet become old. especially if the kids shun her and dont want to see her again. its good though like to see them suffer.
I think Rollo is overconfident. Knowledge isn't the same as experience. He would struggle more than he thinks, at least for a while, if he were ever single again. Long on theory, short on practice.
I would agree. He is pretty safe from having to prove anything and free of even having to take his own advice at the point where he sits. He has good ideas, but he is literally a case of do as I say, not as I do.
I believe this is not the case. Purely because Rollo has such a creative artistic streak. Check out the book 'Women' by Charles Bukowski. This is a perfect example of how women are drawn to emotionally intelligent guys with a high degree of creativity.
Don’t think he’s delusional at all. Attraction isn’t a women’s choice and guys with solid game can always attract women and attract a lot of them without effort. Seen it and done it.
Rollo is on the money . After an 18 year marriage and 4 kids I found my blue pulled self getting dumped by a wife who had been busy monkey branching away completely unknown to me. She was hard work but I was mad about her. The usual followed , anger depression then a lot of self analysis. The red pill moment. I'm now 50 , I date a 33yo and my life is exactly how I want it. Literally exactly how I want it. I'll never Marry again though. I've a lot to offer to a woman but it's on my terms from now on.
@Activated Christian sorry preacher but I got saved the day I found out she was cheating on me. I didn't know it then but it lead to the a better life . I will thank your God if necessary when the time comes. The only thing left to reconsile with my wife is her lean on my finances. My children are happy. I'm happy and my partner is happy. You on the other hand don't appear that content with your life. If you where you wouldn't be recommending others to ruin theirs.
Great video guys. I'm 53 and divorcing after 25 years. I've been following both of you for about a year and a half, and look and life and the male/female dynamic with a new lens. Thanks for all you do.
@@up4air534 brother I'm a doing well. I focused on getting in great shape and doing things I loved to do prior to getting married (riding motorcycles, jiu jitsu), read more books from other red pill authors and recently decided to circumnavigate the planet in a 70 foot racing yacht. I'm happier, healthier, and more free and liberated than ever. Loving life brother.
I'm 27 now and I lost my patience with dating years ago. The constant bullshit and pandering to keep women happy is a waste of time. Instead I invested all that time and effort into my business. I actually have an ROI now.
Best dating advice for men in their 50s: **Dont** Best dating advice for men in their 40s: **Dont** Best dating advice for men in their 30s: **Dont** Best dating advice for men in their 20s: **Dont** NEVER date. Just do java meets, clubs, hiking, & sex. Me, I'd rather travel than spend a PENNY on today's so called "ladies" And yes, I've traveled the entire planet, but prefer RV'ing for sometimes a month at a time. 52% of the population are women. They are literally everywhere. Women are so common/ plentiful that their worth is that of a bag of peanuts. If she cooks better than I, is at least as neat & clean as I, and pays her own way, then that woman is worthy for more than just sex. But far too often sex is all they want, and too often that is all they are good for. Pump & Dump is not my idea of a "good time" , so back to the original point: NEVER DATE. Any women responding to this thread are NOT worth a second thought. Don't take what they are saying as truthful, or of having any merit whatsoever. Don't trust them, don't listen, don't consider their point of view, because they are NOT your PROBLEM, and their credibility is highly questionable. As a middle-aged MGTOW who takes care of HIMSELF, I get all the action I desire, with none of the hassle, and almost zero RISK. In short: Today's women are NOT worth risking your well-being over.
I'm 51. I rarely date. Don't have time for b.s. don't have time for games. Don't need them. Every now and then, I'll met a woman and if she's worth checking out, I'll take a chance on her. But I'll never chase one again. Life is too short. I just want to enjoy myself and take care of me.
I'm 35 right now. There's this kid I met through work. He is 25 and going through a heart break after his girl left him. I borrowed him my copy of the rational male because I didn't wanna see a young man making the same mistakes I made. Fast forward 7 months later the kid thanks me for the book everytime I see him as though I wrote the book. 😂😂😂. His smashing the shit out of these young girls and his ex is one of his spinning plates. Thanks for enlightening us Rollo. It would be nice if he could bring my boom back though. Kid is hogging it. 😂
Well I'm 56 and let me tell you fellas it's all about your shoulder to waist ratio and your personal style. TRUST ME that if you got it together ANY age woman is a option from 18-80 honestly, but a keeper is once in a lifetime.
Rollo has spent to much time out on the lecture circuit. You asked him what his dating strategy would be if he was single and 50. He hit the play button on his hypergamy lecture and wasted 10 minutes. Nice job saving the video by reeling him in at the end.
What if....he’s really just a married guy that’s using a fake name from the movie “LA confidential”, with a handful of good ideas that is selling a product to a very vulnerable demographic, while not living the ideal himself.....
@@holdencaulfield8239 you are spot on. The entire manosphere/redpill space only has a handfull of ideas at the core...may not warrant all the channels and personalities dribbling endlessly on the subject with new examples every day. To be fair about Rollo, he doesn't hide the fact he got married decadds ago, and says he got a bit lucky. He takes a scholarly approach to giving you numbers and assessing the risks for yourself. In general though he has made a good living by self promoting some what repetive duplicate material ...which is the redpill space in general as well...the guys in this space, have a legit point to make, but once you are redpill not sure spending a lot of time or money on this space does has any value
@@stevet6665 fool, an ugly old man who understands women doesn't mean women will be attracted to him. Women are attracted to youthful attractive men. Rollo is neither one of those things and would most likely become an incel if his marriage failed.
@@flauze - Hahaha, do you always insult anyone with whom you disagree? Perhaps you have a maturity issue. I'm fairly attractive, but not so attractive that I can say or do anything and still have success. I also have a job that allows me to naturally interact with many women on any given work day. So I'm in a great position to be able to verify (from experience) what is likely to be a more attractive behavior to most women and what will probably drive them away. I can also say that youth is not nearly as big of a deal for women (in general) to find a man attractive than it is for men when determining the attractiveness of a woman.
@@stevet6665 im not saying "you specifically" can't get girls, I'm saying women are attracted to a nice jawline, youthful looks and an attractive face, NOT "Red pill knowledge." Rollo having red pill knowledge does not make him attractive to women.
Thank you for a great interview. Everything Rollo said I find true for my life. At 56, divorced 16 years ago after 14 years of marriage, this is the best time of my life right now. By a long shot. Still learning about how to be a better man to myself, thanks to this channel.
Warning...all men over 50 thinking he is attractive to women in their 20s and 30s is a ticking time bomb. After she has had the second kid and you are rearing up towards 60 with impotency and age, she will ditch you. Not if but only when. When she starts seeing you take naps, asking her to speak up and hair growing out of your ears....she is outta there. Lol!!!!!
and? Your point is? Only an idiot would marry at over 50 and have kids with a much younger woman. Unless he is super rich. Even then, why marry them. Don't live with them and have her pop out a kid or two and support them financially. The kids I mean. There's a reason why boarding schools and nannies were created.....
I am old now and I wish there had been someone to help me when I was young and a Beta male. I have paid a heavy price and I am now poor but I am also very happy living with no women in my life.
If you are happy and content, are you ever really poor? How you feel about yourself and your life matters more than what other people think of you and your life.
I am 51 and I don't date at all. I won't date a woman with kids.,......no thank you. Did that once not anymore. I have been single now for a long long time. Don't want to get marryed and don't want kids of my own. It just me and my dog. Women are hard work.
It's not so much about the kids (from one of my views) but more from "i wish i could trust women a lot more these days" that turned me completely off for more than a decade. Women do not compromise enough, they don't communicate enough on a "red pill platform" so how can any man ever take them seriously when there is so much at stake (like your finances, your time, not to forget your heart, we do have one).
There was a 50+guy on the news on TV in a coma from hitting his head after falling off his sons skateboard. His inner kid could still ride, he couldn't.
I’m 54. I’ve had more than 50 honeymoon type relationships with never being married. No bills no talk of future, no being talked down too. No wondering where she is in the shopping Ille. No problem.I live in a tourist area in Spain. They come ,they go. Although 20 years ago was a lot easier to find . Never get married. My father told me. Only thing I listen to him about.
Marriage is dangerous for the financially better off party unless you get a prenup. This hypergamy theory is a bit thin, since so many women are high earners and are looking not for money but for companionship. Marriage in later life is generally risky for women as they are likely to end up being someone's nurse. Best thing to do is live separately from any partner.
@Seekingthemiddle Sorry, prenups are not state statue. Judges throw them out most times. Both parties must agree to use them. There's the problem. My postnuptial and divorced was over turned by the same judge that signed the divorce decree 4 months earlier. The ex contested the decree months later. I spent the next 3 years in court and the appeal court. I lost.
It still remains difficult to understand why a man in his 50's would even bother spinning plates . To spend time and energy dating a younger women ( who no doubt is laden with daddy issues) would be a complete waste of time.
BlackSteel InChaos your lines makes sense in so many ways. We men need to self-invest and learn how to live within ourselves. Until then, we would keep looking unconsciously or consciously for the red pill (women).
ilovehouse888 my thoughts exactly! Who has time and patience for that ? Pursue your passions, start a business, grow a business, but chasing women ( girls ) for the sake of an orgasm is absolutely pointless.
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Dude it's so much fun. When you have the energy and confidence it's easy. I have way more hot younger females in my life now than I did when I was in my twenties as I worked on myself physically and mentally since age of 16. Again I'm not preaching some kind of mantra here, we are all different and dating younger women say in their twenties (yes!) and older is not everyone's agenda. I just find myself meeting young women more often than women my age. Hint there are no women over 40 in my gym!
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BlackSteel InChaos really? Ask yourself that when you hit 80. You won't be remembering the women you did not meet and what came of it. Life is relationships regardless of how many businesses you have had or not. While you have the energy go out and have some damn fun if you are single. But be grounded and yes have other interests. My life does not revolve around young skirt but they are part of it.
What I can't fucking stand is always being the guy women attempt to approach while abandon their family and I won't do it. I always remain lonely and not laid while being single. Sucks but this channel has helped to find my way.
It is surprising how many women do this. Scary. For married men, swear off the idea of cheating, do not allow women to use you. They just view all men like they look at a car, something to get them from point A to B.
I can relate AlphaGhost - truly. I do myself the HUGE favor of assuming that they are hitting on me to make someone else jealous, hoping they will pop the question, allowing them to steal his life & stuff. If it rings true for that particular women, Picture her as such a person, and you will turn your back on the Hoes & Bitches.
Alpha Ghost I get love from my family and friends so I'm almost never lonely. For sex I either get a sex partner or an escort. You don't need a girlfriend or wife.
If you're a 50+ man with money and assets, getting married is a fool's errand. You're in a poor position to rebuild yourself financially if things go south.
Kids grow old quick my friend , soon they won't need so much of your time. Forget women for now and get on working at improving yourself. Good women will find you buddy. I garuntee that.
Sorry about the slight audio problems, I'm learning as I go. The content is still gold, and well worth tolerating the odd audio glitches. New Rollo interview - Tomassi is 49, and married, I asked him what his dating tips for himself would be if things ended with Mrs. Tomassi. To learn more about Rollo and his work, grab a copy of The Rational Male: amzn.to/2i9dfjW or visit his blog at: therationalmale.com
Roughly 67% to 80% of second marriages end in divorce, while third marriages crumble at an even higher rate. Why would any man want to take a chance on only 20% successes rate?????
I saw that happen to a couple I know, for the wife it was her second marriage, she left husband no. 2 after 25 yrs. , they had 4 kids, now grown, and still live in the same house! wtf!
Pause the video at the 8 minute mark and ask yourself: Why even bother with women? Because no matter what you have done in the relationship in the past.....and whatever you will do in the future.....she will ALWAYS be thinking, "Can I do better? I think I can!" Well - FUCK THAT!!! I just turned 50 myself. My marriage ended 10 years ago, and I can say from my own experience in dating since then, and from paying attention to the women I know and deal with on a daily basis (I am in sales) that women will crush your heart and your self esteem in the blink of an eye and have NO remorse in doing so!
Exactly! They don't. I haven't been on a date in over a year now. I value myself too much to be scrutinized and played with by a woman. I have much better things to do, frankly.
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Don't you find over time though, that you just become immune to the emotional shit. Like you really don't care?
some of you dudes are delusional. Women in their 20's and 30's aren't anxious to date 50 something guys. Does it happen, sure, but That is NOT what the vast majority of younger women want.
I’m 53 and a bachelor. Never been married. I have no regrets except that I would have liked to have had a kid. But it just wasn’t in the cards. Dating wise I must say I have found my 50s (thus far) to be quite interesting. Sexually speaking I don’t think I will ever get involved with a woman in her 50s and over. I just don’t find them sexually attractive. Actually, the other day I ran into an ex girlfriend I haven’t seen in over 20 years. She was a full of 9 back in the day and had guys throwing dick at her all the time. I don’t want to be cruel. But now? At 53? Let’s put it this way. I didn’t even recognize her when she called my name. I could be friends with a chick over 50 if she’s cool. No problem. But dating? Nope. The women I still seem to attract these days are interestingly enough women in their late 20s to early 30s and of course women in their 50s and up. Women in their 40s don’t seem interested which I can’t figure out as to why? Sometimes women in their early 20s show interest because of the whole silver fox thing but rarely pull the trigger. It’s just an ego thing for them. I’m nowhere near being rich. But I’ve maintained my weight (170lbs at 6’0. 34waist), not ripped, a bit of spare tire that’s a bitch to get rid of over 50, have male pattern baldness though not terrible. If I could give any advice to my aging brothers I would say what’s good for young guys is good for older. Wear clothes that fit, have your own style , don’t try and look “young”, groom regularly and have some game. And don’t get married or have kids. Believe me, you don’t wanna be chasing around rug rats in your mid-50s. You just won’t have the energy that you did in your 20s and 30s.
Women in their 40s are at an age when then seek validation from younger men. At 50 they come to the realization that it will not happen and are just target practice for those young guys.
So true bro! Try foster care and or domestic adoption. I never had bio kids of my own and this little 6 year man has rocked my world. Great way to meet people as well
I donated 5 of rollo's books to local libraries. I wonder why they never even put them out to the public for check out. Women don't want female nature exposed and treated the books like hate speech to be burned or destroyed.
I'm 45 .. I have never felt so alive & empowered as a man as I do today. RP'd 2-3yrs ago, I found my path & purpose .. Women literally throw themselves at me .. 30yr olds lining up around the block trying to distract me, wanting me to spend what little time I have with them .. My life, my terms .. Do the work & become your best self .. Spin plates & choose from abundance ..
guys im 50,never married no kids.for the most part ive had a pretty ok life.ive had sex with many different ladies and had relationships.i was able to focus more on me so far as work,education,and hobbies.i can tell u dating at 50 is much harder than when we were younger but think for a sec,if u happen to not be good with the ladies even at a young age look up female escorts,not expensive especially looking at the cost of marriage kids are not entered in.
Hey pal, if it's any consolation, dating for young guys nowadays is no picnic either. I know I wouldn't want to be a young single man in today's dating scene. God I miss the 80s!
Rolls writes a fine book. Wish I read it decades ago.
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AMEN brother. It makes me mildly pissed off that this information wasn't around when I was in my teens or early 20's. Or that my father never told me any of this - but then he was in a different time and he was totally plugged in, unlike me now. On the upside I have this amazing gift of knowledge to pass on to my sons.
I just wonder how all you guys will feel about it when the next “flight” of 50-ish divorced men start treating your daughters like plates to be spun, as recommended by this guy.
I'm 50, divorced, renting (obviously the ex kept the house) but with a good stable income for myself. I am currently dating and have no desire to get sucked into marriage again. I can honestly say I'm living the best years of my life.
I am over fifty and I want to say that I have never been happier! Thank God that my ex figured out that she could do better than me. So, I am not stuck with her watching her age. (as she has not done well) I hit the weights every day and love my life. I date young women. Why? Because I can. (that is an attempt at humor) I am posting this as a way to try and encourage men over forty or fifty who want to start over. Yes, it's very possible. Again, I am thankful that she left! So thankful! I love my life! Good luck gentlemen!
First he did note about an example where the wife at about 38 left her beta husband to marry a bodybuilder and she did. Two minutes later he says any woman past the age of 32 has practically no chance to marry at all. One of these is probably untrue, right. Lay off the shrooms, Mike.
I don't think the younger body builder guy is going to marry her? Bang her tea. Marry a 38 year old woman with that many kids you would have to be barking!
Uhg, I recall when I got divorced in my 40’s. I was devastated for a number of reasons. Now in my 50’s I do not even have to chase women. There always one trying to lock me down and usually one or two on deck hoping the current one drops the ball. I am sincerely at a place where I don’t give a crap if ai have a girlfriend or not…. And THAT is an aphrodisiac in and of itself for women.
Hypergamy scares me, I'm 56 in fantastic shape, I believe I am but also been told by women that I'm good looking, "but" I'm 5 months cancer free, unemployed, can't go back to my job or any job where my body is needed, in the middle of Covid19 pandemic, can't do anything as far as training is concerned, so I'm feeling lost and our marriage has been in trouble for a while, I'm afraid she's going to come home one night, in my present situation and I'll be homeless with no job
Good point. I check out different dating sites occasionally and between the short "manlike" haircuts, tattoos, piercings, and extra 50 to 75 pounds the women are carrying, it's a horror show and that's before their 100 point "must have" lists and declaration that you must not care about their baggage. When you meet these women in public they cuss like drunken sailors and have really big mouths. I agree with Nancy Reagan, "Just say no"!!
Incredible, incredible, incredible information for the young dudes at 20’s to 25’s who find this information at that age, it is life-changing information! At my age it’s still incredible but if you’re lucky enough to find this channel Richard and Others like Rollo Tomassi you really lucked out early. Take this, devour it and trust it!
@Richard Wolfe True. We could call this movie "Romancing the Stone", because that's the reality. The bulge in your pants that she is interested in..... will be your wallet. ;-)
Guys... Take some advice please. Men do not make a real effort anymore. They send a message like, hey beautiful... How can you even get started with that kind of comment?? The men I remember are the ones who actually pick up the phone and dial my number, NOT the stupid daily text message with no real content. I and women like me, do not take men who only text seriously. We go for the men who will actually call -- and offer to pick you up (after a first date). You will have an edge if you get your hair cut and your teeth whitened. Face it, we are also visual. So if you make a real effort to clean your shoes, brush your teeth, dress the part... you WILL eventually get to the point where you will get a quality woman. We are not gold diggers, we just want men who don't need US to take care of them.
Excellent discussion, thanks Brother. I've turned 60 and over the years dated but always pulled back at points, there something strong within has always asked me: "What the fuck am I doing?"....Maybe Rollo was sending me a message...
Ive seen a pattern emerge where once Ive bought a nice expensive gift for a girlfriend they tend to either lose respect or end things soon after. Perhaps as they realise it may be a while before getting another gift or even worse they feel like they have to reciprocate and buy me something. Either way i won't be over generous with random women again
James Dixon Don't do that unless you are super close to the girl. If it's just a random girlfriend, it's just a bit cringey and will make her feel embarrassed.
James, you are trying to qualify yourself to the woman, which is hyper beta behavior. Never buy any gift with the exception of a $40.00 birthday or Christmas gift. You must be the trophy, there is no such thing as a trophy wife, MEN are the trophy. I own 2 cars, 2 motorcycles, my own home, and I make 6 figures. I am the prize. You have to look at yourself as the prize, and SHE has to qualify herself to you. Ask her question about herself and have her explain her reasons for doing whatever. Men age like wine, women age like milk.
In the alternative/counter culture scene: music, art, spirituality...Hypergamy seems to be less of an issue than in main stream society...money and climbing the ladder for both sexes is not such an obsession...becoming single again recently in my mid 50's an unexpected calm has come over me...my life is so good [and with very little money] that I feel like I'm really plugging into my true identity...for the first time in my life I feel no pressure to chase after women whatsoever...
I wish you pressed him when he said women in late 20's to early 30's were NECESSITOUS.... In what way? Are we speaking monetarily (student loans, CC debt)? Psychologically needy? BOTH? Necessitous in other ways? .... I'm 49 [50 in Dec].... Divorced 5 years.... 4 kids.... Last think I want I a 28 - 32 year old girlfriend.... Earn 6 figures - but WON'T ever be a sugar daddy.... / 38 - 45 and still in good shape is fine... and most women 38 - 45 have kids in their teens so not much issues with sitter, etc....
Have all 3 Rollo books... Thanx.... BTW, if you have an interest in the WHY... not just the WHAT .... 2 good evol psych books are SPERM WARS and THE RED QUEEN....
True that brother. The 35 - 49 age bracket of woman is pretty good because they still look good (some do). They can be fun play dates and you can enjoy the benefits of a woman's company. They're past the baby rabies stage so they're not as crazy as the younger ones. And, as you say, their kids are older and much less of a hassle. In fact it's good they have kids to focus on so we aren't their 24/7 focus. They love fun and sex but are still focused on their kids. Win for us!
Great vid guys. I’m 51. Was married for 23 yrs. since divorce dated several women. I won’t lie was looking for a relationship and none have worked out. Not that I worry because I live an abundance life. If they come they come. If they don’t they don’t. And I agree I will never marry ever again. My last girl wanted marriage. Never!
What if a man's strategy is to avoid any arguments with his girlfriend or wife (common law). We know that there's men that are the silent types, and that seems to be working fine for some men. So for the men that aren't the silent types, could they practice that and change there personality and character. The downside is that you don't get that spontaneous dialogue during the evenings or weekends with your wife/friend, which is to avoid arguments, but the benefits are that you have someone to sleep with 7 days a week (again, body language, cuddle and sleep only). This lifestyle works even better when your sharing a home with other relatives, because couples usually avoids getting into arguments after 9 pm for in respect to others around. Another point is if a guy wants a dialogue/chat, he can always have it anytime with his male friends.
Best dating advice for men in their 50s: **Dont** Best dating advice for men in their 40s: **Dont** Best dating advice for men in their 30s: **Dont** Best dating advice for men in their 20s: **Dont** NEVER date. Just do java meets, clubs, hiking, & sex. Me, I'd rather travel than spend a PENNY on today's so called "ladies" And yes, I've traveled the entire planet, but prefer RV'ing for sometimes a month at a time. 52% of the population are women. They are literally everywhere. Women are so common/ plentiful that their worth is that of a bag of peanuts. If she cooks better than I, is at least as neat & clean as I, and pays her own way, then that woman is worthy for more than just sex. But far too often sex is all they want, and too often that is all they are good for. Pump & Dump is not my idea of a "good time" , so back to the original point: NEVER DATE. Any women responding to this thread are NOT worth a second thought. Don't take what they are saying as truthful, or of having any merit whatsoever. Don't trust them, don't listen, don't consider their point of view, because they are NOT your PROBLEM, and their credibility is highly questionable. As a middle-aged MGTOW who takes care of HIMSELF, I get all the action I desire, with none of the hassle, and almost zero RISK. In short: Today's women are NOT worth risking your well-being over.
I'm 53, ex left me after 18 years with 3 teenage daughters. Tried online dating, the women are not very attractive and come with a lot of baggage. Is there any hope to find love again?
A man may do a good job of being a husband, father, and provider, but doing those things well actually detracts from being an exciting lover, a dream maker, "a bodybuilder," and so on. A guy may have to choose one "role" or the other: a husband or a Don Juan. I don't think he can be both. It's a cynical view, but husbands should go into a marriage with an understanding that the nuptials will most likely fail, and he should prepare for and accept it if it happens.
With all due respect... A guy in his 50s getting with a girl in her 20s? Hahahaha! Maybe once in your lifetime bro (maybe) unless you have 8 figures in the bank and live like it. Someone needs a little red pill.
It's only possible for high status, high net worth individuals. Even incredible looking normal guys can't really pull that off. Please be clear about that for regular guys like you and me. You seemed to say that's in reach for you.
How can a man go through life without shagging? Here are my tips to get loads of sex into your 50s. Create a social circle with a large pool of women. Play the long game. DO NOT ever chase women. They will show interest in you if you have one iota of charisma which you should have because you're over 50 with a lifetime of experience to draw on. That means you get to CHOOSE! There are TONS of women over 40 who's kids are off their hands, have their own money, are certainly not interested in getting married again (they've been there are done that) and look fantastic from doing yoga three times a week.
As a man that has been divorced 7 yrs ago.. I am now 56.. I was married most of my life.. now Alone. I hate being alone.. I miss sex.. I miss having someone next to me in bed.. I was happy being married and now I am not. I tried...tried.. tried to be alone and happy.. it just does not work for me. I haven't dated anyone in those 7 yrs.. because I cannot find someone that wants to date me... I am not a good looking guy.. I know that.. I am also poor... I lost my career of 22 yrs.. and had a hard time of even finding a job...so I took whatever I could get.. which means I'm poor. I don't own a home.. I don't own a nice car.. my car is 20yrs old. I'm 56.. I don't have many years left to date.. that is what is in my mind... I don't want to be alone anymore.
Marcia W - It's nice that you've found what makes you happy in life, but I'm happily divorced and enjoy being happy and free. To think of this as "sad" is just being negative. Each of us have to follow our own path in life.
@@clowncat8464 1. Get a dog 2. Buy a cheap motorcycle 3. Volunteer at a charity 4. Seek to establish a relationship with your Creator, the Lord Jesus Christ. (He is the source of ultimate fulfillment.)
The proper way, according to societal standards, to try and "get with" a girl is to date her for several months, give her a $10,000 engagement ring and provide a $400,000 house. If she's very attractive, add 1 or 2 zeroes to those numbers. In practical terms, there are ways to circumvent those standards and just "hook up." This approach is not considered decent in society, but some people are very skilled at it.
50"s Dating, right on. Most woman at around my age seem to be broking in one way or another. so when I just found out that there is a calculation value you can use to find out what is the youngish age to your own. it's "your current age divided by two, then add 7 to that number" and there you go. who know, not me...
It should feel miserable to advocate for "spinning plates" and having a 19 year old daughter. I don't know how he explains to his daughter the spinners who dump her before she gets to the age of "epiphany". It should feel weird to see his own daughters with old men trained in his own school of "alpha male". It should feel weirder to see her father disrespecting women.
Im 51, separated for just over a year. I have no desire to get married again. I am embracing my life for me, and being present for my kids. It is a relief to get out from under that cloud of feeling like I was not enough for her.
I'm a single man in my 50s and to be honest, I just don't have the patience anymore for all the bullshit that's involved with the dating scene.
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missmolly - Well said. Some men (particulary "MGTOWs" as they call themselves - men going their own way) need to believe certain life lies about women and male-female relationships or they would implode. An ego thing, and I don't hold it against them anymore. A man should, at most, compliment a woman's life, not be the focus of it. Life's too short for childish men and there are a lot of other things out there for us to enjoy!
bla - Studies and science? hahaha. There are perspectives and beliefs, and we all know what MGTOWs would have everyone believe. Society is messed up thanks to MALE NATURE: white-knighting men who need our validation. Yes, we took advantage of that and as a result, we are in control now and will be for a very long time. Go MGOTW: stand in a corner and suck your thumb, but such protests won't change reality.
Complement, not compliment.
Carly Ellison
All men gifted it to you?
Or to you all (the herd)?
Or was it just one man you extorted?
Well, how proud you must be.
How strong and independent with the 401ks, life insurance and investments of men thoughtful and generous (dumb) enough to name you a beneficiary?
Yeah, That's something to really gloat over little girl.
Congratulations on slam dunking the mgtows' argument for them with your comments.
You are not the sharpest tool in the drawer are you?
One of the things that I've never forgotten while reading Rollo's book; "A woman should compliment a man's life but never be the focus of it".
David A far too many ignore this truth
he's a rich guy so in reality ? rules does not apply
I have money But I do not flaunt it..
The Beatles got it all wrong as you can buy love or facsimile
"smirks" I've just never tired it or even know how. No clue..
True for women to
Complement. Thanks
I'm 57 and separated from my wife. As I grow older, I find that I have no tolerance for the over emotional nonsense and BS that comes with the dating scene. Being single is just fine. Marriage was a total waste of 16 years. I got a great daughter out of it, but that's all.
You have a Daughter so it wasn't waste. Good luck moving forward reassess as you go.
… love is blind, till divorce happens
I'm older than ya'll. I'm fine with being single. I don't even wanna mingle. I did my womanizing in my 20's and 30's and I'm all fine with that. Don't feel the need to have a partner and life is best solo. All my friends that chose married life is now divorced. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
I’m 53 and going through a divorce. This video gives me hope. Thanks for sharing this.
After a year i hope you have incorporated the concepts of "mental point of origin" and "outcome independence". I hope your life is well.
I'm so happy about the fact that I'm watching all this stuff at 21. Thanks Richard and Rollo. Anyone here whatching it at early 20's?
me... im only 20
You are a very wise young man. 👍
To quote my favourite Monty Python movie... "You lucky, lucky bastard".
I am 21 and I am really enjoy all the videos and content, day by day I am becoming more red pill aware. Things are definitely changing
Iñaki Garrido1 When I was at the court house, I got talking with half a dozen guys between the ages of 19 and 25. At least half of them were suicidal because of child support. The mothers just kicked them out because of the child support they would get. Don't listen to idiots like Marb Rob. Have a health, happy life.
I feel like one way to severely curtail hypergamy, at least in regards to women with children, would be for ALL men to avoid single mothers. If leaving the father of her children guaranteed she'd be single the rest of her life, how many fewer women would walk away from otherwise perfectly good marriages or relationships? Guys, don't get involved with single mothers!
Agreed. Another VERY, very, VERY good way to curtail hypergamy is Dowries. Every woman should be expected to supply her husband w a HUGE block of resources. In the east this is so common that Men will not marry without a dowry. And, as the first husband gets ALL the cash (or real estate) second marriages are cut down to nearly ZERO because she is bringing far less to the table, AND, she is immediately seen for what she is: **dishonorable** for wasting the first husband's life, and her father's hard earned cash.
Anonymous Near Seattle
: Damn right, leave single mothers alone (single thru failed relationship), they lie, play professional victim, worthy of an Oscar. Woman with sh*t factories and ankle biters are not to be tolerated.
@@captnhuffy Except for the fact that makes women chattel, and of course the obvious fact that many women earn just as much as men these days.
Right on, those men who kick again to the curb/avoiding those single moth-ers who had abandoned their marriage and family, help restore fairness and justice for all. :D
And men should not be sperm donors as well...
I became a a widower in 2003. Met someone in 2006, married her in 2007. I filed for divorce in 2015. The first wife was a NAWALT. Second one became a nightmare. I'm a Monk now.
lpd1snipe
Some people tend to idealize their former spouses if they are widowed.
Khemistry IBMOR I'm not one of those. I was married to her for 19 years when she died. She was a Nawalt. The one I divorced wasn't.
Sorry to hear it bro. As a monk, it sounds like your 2nd marriage was all the self flagellation you ever needed.
What is a NAWALT?
Michael Cohen Not All Women Are Like That.
Asking a married guy for dating advice is like asking a broke guy for financial advice.
Superhero Armory 😂👍🏻👍🏻
He talks like his marriage is an exception to what he preaches. His wife must be a broken woman in some way to stay married to a guy who actively preaches against women and marriage.
@@holdencaulfield8239
Nope. She can leave him anytime she wants and take half of his wealth. Rollo took a big risk going out public. His wife understands that Rollo’s books and TH-cam channel is a business that generates substantial income.
The Reviewer so we are giving out medals for not lying now? Lol. Before you praise his forthcoming and honesty, you know he is using a fake name from LA Confidential, right?
@@holdencaulfield8239
I am not sure if his name is real or not, but why would that matter? How is that relevant to what he’s talking about? What he “preaches” makes a whole lot of sense. The problem here is that you do not like him and think he is anti-female. You just don’t really understand what he’s talking about. No where does he suggest any harm to women. His information is helpful to a lot of men, especially when the data suggests (unsurprisingly) that almost all women have kids while most men do not get to create an offspring. Women don’t struggle as much as men to find a partner.
I'm a 54 year old guy who has a GF but if I had to get out there dating again it would be very very hard. Most women in their 40s either have kids at home which is a major pain or they're fat or unfit. Yes, there are good women out there but finding them is incredibly difficult. And give that we've only got so much time on this planet is it worth all that work trying to find one?
Mark Houghton Funny, one of concerns as a widow is men thinking my teenager is their struggle. Im self sufficient and not looking for a Daddy replacement.
@@genus-belowfamilybutaboves4637 fine but having a kid to be responsible for means you're simply less available - you can't just decide at the last minute to go away for a weekend or fuck like hairless apes in your living room. Your SMV has gone down the toilet at least 3 points.
Short answer NO , if you date 30 year old they want kids , if you date a 40 yr old they have kids, a 50 yr that’s good looking with no hangs ups , good fucking luck.
@@stuartkarlson4135
Women become invisible to men when they hit 50. Why would you even get with a 40yo, she’s a fast depreciating asset by then. But, yeah you can’t really win, because either side of 30 she has baby rabies.
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I think the whole point that Rollo is making is to avoid the pitfalls of marriage and simply enjoy life. We don’t need to overthink this hole adventure we call life. Be content, be happy, and live well. I’m 57 and quite content. 😎
Mark W This 'hole adventure' is really the point though right? :)
"Hole" indeed sir...
and you're probably alone as well LOL
Whole adventure- or did you mean hole (pussy) adventure? lol
@@rawtee8957 When I read your comment I initially took it as negative, I thought you were implying he was lonely. Then I realized you meant being unattached is a happy place to be, which has nothing to do with loneliness.
Thinking about it, from now on I will use 'unattached' and not 'alone' when typing comments here and other places about myself.
abandoning your husband is one thing. abandoning your kids is unconscionable.
I know of one woman that did this about 12 years ago. Had been married for 20 years at that point. Had a great "provider" husband, a 21 and 16 year old daughters as well as a 12 year old son. She was a full time homemaker (hubby was pulling in the cash at work). Nice suburban house. She decided to go to work part time to feel "useful". Some guy at work started sweet talking her. Less than a year later she abandoned the family, filed for divorce, and took half of all assets. The kids stayed with dad by her choice. Women are awesome, huh?
Raymond Smith nope!
@@raymondsmith6315 Wow, you could be speaking about me, but I was a married for 28 years. I traded cash and pensions for my 3 kids. Its 5 years later, I'm happy and the ex is very angry and broke. Blames me still for everything even from the state she moved to.
@Maximus DM7 most of them will regret it when thet become old. especially if the kids shun her and dont want to see her again. its good though like to see them suffer.
My last "it" did twice more or less
I think Rollo is overconfident. Knowledge isn't the same as experience. He would struggle more than he thinks, at least for a while, if he were ever single again. Long on theory, short on practice.
I think your delusional
I would agree. He is pretty safe from having to prove anything and free of even having to take his own advice at the point where he sits. He has good ideas, but he is literally a case of do as I say, not as I do.
I believe this is not the case. Purely because Rollo has such a creative artistic streak. Check out the book 'Women' by Charles Bukowski. This is a perfect example of how women are drawn to emotionally intelligent guys with a high degree of creativity.
Don’t think he’s delusional at all. Attraction isn’t a women’s choice and guys with solid game can always attract women and attract a lot of them without effort. Seen it and done it.
@@stuartkarlson4135 you’re
Rollo is on the money . After an 18 year marriage and 4 kids I found my blue pulled self getting dumped by a wife who had been busy monkey branching away completely unknown to me.
She was hard work but I was mad about her. The usual followed , anger depression then a lot of self analysis. The red pill moment.
I'm now 50 , I date a 33yo and my life is exactly how I want it. Literally exactly how I want it.
I'll never Marry again though. I've a lot to offer to a woman but it's on my terms from now on.
@Activated Christian sorry preacher but I got saved the day I found out she was cheating on me. I didn't know it then but it lead to the a better life . I will thank your God if necessary when the time comes.
The only thing left to reconsile with my wife is her lean on my finances.
My children are happy. I'm happy and my partner is happy. You on the other hand don't appear that content with your life. If you where you wouldn't be recommending others to ruin theirs.
Great video guys. I'm 53 and divorcing after 25 years. I've been following both of you for about a year and a half, and look and life and the male/female dynamic with a new lens. Thanks for all you do.
It's Nov 9th 2021 and I'm in a similar situation after 11 years of marriage. I'm 54. Just curious how it's going for you......?
@@up4air534 brother I'm a doing well. I focused on getting in great shape and doing things I loved to do prior to getting married (riding motorcycles, jiu jitsu), read more books from other red pill authors and recently decided to circumnavigate the planet in a 70 foot racing yacht. I'm happier, healthier, and more free and liberated than ever. Loving life brother.
@@evankrhodes absolutely bad ass. Great work brother.
@@JohnChatman thank you brother
@@JohnChatman loved it
I'm 27 now and I lost my patience with dating years ago.
The constant bullshit and pandering to keep women happy is a waste of time.
Instead I invested all that time and effort into my business.
I actually have an ROI now.
Roi meaning?
@@DhilipNexus return on investment
@@amit77 you mean no black hole that keeps sucking your energy? Haha. Yeah I love ROI.
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Best dating advice for men in their 50s : Don’t
Paper Mario Brothels are the way to go!!
I would have said that, but i didn't discover this video till now. lol
Agreed!
Best dating advice for men in their 50s: **Dont**
Best dating advice for men in their 40s: **Dont**
Best dating advice for men in their 30s: **Dont**
Best dating advice for men in their 20s: **Dont**
NEVER date. Just do java meets, clubs, hiking, & sex.
Me, I'd rather travel than spend a PENNY on today's so called "ladies" And yes, I've traveled the entire planet, but prefer RV'ing for sometimes a month at a time.
52% of the population are women. They are literally everywhere. Women are so common/ plentiful that their worth is that of a bag of peanuts.
If she cooks better than I, is at least as neat & clean as I, and pays her own way, then that woman is worthy for more than just sex. But far too often sex is all they want, and too often that is all they are good for. Pump & Dump is not my idea of a "good time" , so back to the original point: NEVER DATE.
Any women responding to this thread are NOT worth a second thought. Don't take what they are saying as truthful, or of having any merit whatsoever. Don't trust them, don't listen, don't consider their point of view, because they are NOT your PROBLEM, and their credibility is highly questionable.
As a middle-aged MGTOW who takes care of HIMSELF, I get all the action I desire, with none of the hassle, and almost zero RISK. In short: Today's women are NOT worth risking your well-being over.
But you still have needs though.
I'm 51. I rarely date. Don't have time for b.s. don't have time for games. Don't need them. Every now and then, I'll met a woman and if she's worth checking out, I'll take a chance on her. But I'll never chase one again. Life is too short. I just want to enjoy myself and take care of me.
I'm 35 right now. There's this kid I met through work. He is 25 and going through a heart break after his girl left him. I borrowed him my copy of the rational male because I didn't wanna see a young man making the same mistakes I made. Fast forward 7 months later the kid thanks me for the book everytime I see him as though I wrote the book. 😂😂😂. His smashing the shit out of these young girls and his ex is one of his spinning plates. Thanks for enlightening us Rollo. It would be nice if he could bring my boom back though. Kid is hogging it. 😂
Well I'm 56 and let me tell you fellas it's all about your shoulder to waist ratio and your personal style. TRUST ME that if you got it together ANY age woman is a option from 18-80 honestly, but a keeper is once in a lifetime.
Rollo has spent to much time out on the lecture circuit. You asked him what his dating strategy would be if he was single and 50. He hit the play button on his hypergamy lecture and wasted 10 minutes. Nice job saving the video by reeling him in at the end.
What if....he’s really just a married guy that’s using a fake name from the movie “LA confidential”, with a handful of good ideas that is selling a product to a very vulnerable demographic, while not living the ideal himself.....
@@holdencaulfield8239 you are spot on. The entire manosphere/redpill space only has a handfull of ideas at the core...may not warrant all the channels and personalities dribbling endlessly on the subject with new examples every day.
To be fair about Rollo, he doesn't hide the fact he got married decadds ago, and says he got a bit lucky. He takes a scholarly approach to giving you numbers and assessing the risks for yourself. In general though he has made a good living by self promoting some what repetive duplicate material ...which is the redpill space in general as well...the guys in this space, have a legit point to make, but once you are redpill not sure spending a lot of time or money on this space does has any value
I like and respect Rollo. I am over 50 years of age. How is a married man not yet 50 going to give me advice on how to date in my 50s?
Khemistry IBMOR - Rollo has such a mastery of red pill knowledge that I think he's well qualified to give this kind of advice.
Don’t be so technical
@@stevet6665 fool, an ugly old man who understands women doesn't mean women will be attracted to him. Women are attracted to youthful attractive men. Rollo is neither one of those things and would most likely become an incel if his marriage failed.
@@flauze - Hahaha, do you always insult anyone with whom you disagree? Perhaps you have a maturity issue.
I'm fairly attractive, but not so attractive that I can say or do anything and still have success. I also have a job that allows me to naturally interact with many women on any given work day. So I'm in a great position to be able to verify (from experience) what is likely to be a more attractive behavior to most women and what will probably drive them away. I can also say that youth is not nearly as big of a deal for women (in general) to find a man attractive than it is for men when determining the attractiveness of a woman.
@@stevet6665 im not saying "you specifically" can't get girls, I'm saying women are attracted to a nice jawline, youthful looks and an attractive face, NOT "Red pill knowledge." Rollo having red pill knowledge does not make him attractive to women.
Thank you for a great interview. Everything Rollo said I find true for my life. At 56, divorced 16 years ago after 14 years of marriage, this is the best time of my life right now. By a long shot. Still learning about how to be a better man to myself, thanks to this channel.
My brotha I am 52 and this happened to me right after divorce I can’t believe how good my life is, thank you for this video
Warning...all men over 50 thinking he is attractive to women in their 20s and 30s is a ticking time bomb.
After she has had the second kid and you are rearing up towards 60 with impotency and age, she will ditch you. Not if but only when. When she starts seeing you take naps, asking her to speak up and hair growing out of your ears....she is outta there. Lol!!!!!
and? Your point is? Only an idiot would marry at over 50 and have kids with a much younger woman. Unless he is super rich. Even then, why marry them. Don't live with them and have her pop out a kid or two and support them financially. The kids I mean. There's a reason why boarding schools and nannies were created.....
I am 47 years old and I just go rental. I don't bother dating much anymore.
Wot did u mean by 'rental'?
@@AA-ti9od hookers dude
If you have the disposable income it’s probably the most realistic and best way to go.
@@jimmycampbell78 ITS cheaper than a date without the bullshit!
@@wanchwarrior If you have the income, I agree.
I am old now and I wish there had been someone to help me when I was young and a Beta male. I have paid a heavy price and I am now poor but I am also very happy living with no women in my life.
If you are happy and content, are you ever really poor? How you feel about yourself and your life matters more than what other people think of you and your life.
I am 51 and I don't date at all. I won't date a woman with kids.,......no thank you. Did that once not anymore. I have been single now for a long long time. Don't want to get marryed and don't want kids of my own. It just me and my dog. Women are hard work.
I have a dog she's great! I love children I have eight grandkids
try not to be so self-centered or unsharing
Sounds like many single women with children have dodged a bullet lol!
It's not so much about the kids (from one of my views) but more from "i wish i could trust women a lot more these days" that turned me completely off for more than a decade. Women do not compromise enough, they don't communicate enough on a "red pill platform" so how can any man ever take them seriously when there is so much at stake (like your finances, your time, not to forget your heart, we do have one).
So, according to you, bullet = money.
Women are a very expensive hobby. If you're a high-income person, it's an affordable perk of being successful in life.
As long as you keep your inner kid alive..you will never grow old!
Once you look in the mirror, you will realise that it's not true. You will grow old because biology. Don't delude yourself with female "logic"
There was a 50+guy on the news on TV in a coma from hitting his head after falling off his sons skateboard. His inner kid could still ride, he couldn't.
Michael Jackson loves his inner child
I’m 54. I’ve had more than 50 honeymoon type relationships with never being married. No bills no talk of future, no being talked down too. No wondering where she is in the shopping Ille. No problem.I live in a tourist area in Spain. They come ,they go. Although 20 years ago was a lot easier to find . Never get married. My father told me. Only thing I listen to him about.
Great video!! Thanks for this as a man who is 49.
Thank you for this video. 54, recently divorced, greatest time of my life right now.
Good for you brother. Im 2 years out, and forgot how good playtime could be with a new woman.
Marriage is dangerous for the financially better off party unless you get a prenup. This hypergamy theory is a bit thin, since so many women are high earners and are looking not for money but for companionship. Marriage in later life is generally risky for women as they are likely to end up being someone's nurse. Best thing to do is live separately from any partner.
@Seekingthemiddle Sorry, prenups are not state statue. Judges throw them out most times. Both parties must agree to use them. There's the problem. My postnuptial and divorced was over turned by the same judge that signed the divorce decree 4 months earlier. The ex contested the decree months later. I spent the next 3 years in court and the appeal court. I lost.
It still remains difficult to understand why a man in his 50's would even bother spinning plates . To spend time and energy dating a younger women ( who no doubt is laden with daddy issues) would be a complete waste of time.
BlackSteel InChaos to have sex lol isn’t it obvious
BlackSteel InChaos your lines makes sense in so many ways. We men need to self-invest and learn how to live within ourselves. Until then, we would keep looking unconsciously or consciously for the red pill (women).
ilovehouse888 my thoughts exactly! Who has time and patience for that ? Pursue your passions, start a business, grow a business, but chasing women ( girls ) for the sake of an orgasm is absolutely pointless.
Dude it's so much fun. When you have the energy and confidence it's easy. I have way more hot younger females in my life now than I did when I was in my twenties as I worked on myself physically and mentally since age of 16. Again I'm not preaching some kind of mantra here, we are all different and dating younger women say in their twenties (yes!) and older is not everyone's agenda. I just find myself meeting young women more often than women my age. Hint there are no women over 40 in my gym!
BlackSteel InChaos really? Ask yourself that when you hit 80. You won't be remembering the women you did not meet and what came of it. Life is relationships regardless of how many businesses you have had or not. While you have the energy go out and have some damn fun if you are single. But be grounded and yes have other interests. My life does not revolve around young skirt but they are part of it.
Rollo just described me at 54! Loving my new lease of life.
What I can't fucking stand is always being the guy women attempt to approach while abandon their family and I won't do it. I always remain lonely and not laid while being single. Sucks but this channel has helped to find my way.
It is surprising how many women do this. Scary. For married men, swear off the idea of cheating, do not allow women to use you. They just view all men like they look at a car, something to get them from point A to B.
I can relate AlphaGhost - truly. I do myself the HUGE favor of assuming that they are hitting on me to make someone else jealous, hoping they will pop the question, allowing them to steal his life & stuff. If it rings true for that particular women, Picture her as such a person, and you will turn your back on the Hoes & Bitches.
Alpha Ghost I get love from my family and friends so I'm almost never lonely. For sex I either get a sex partner or an escort. You don't need a girlfriend or wife.
This information is priceless. Thank you for this gift.
Tips for men dating over 50......Don't. Put all of that money into your retirement account. Next.
If you're a 50+ man with money and assets, getting married is a fool's errand. You're in a poor position to rebuild yourself financially if things go south.
Well shit
Now I’m 54 widowed with 2 young kids and want to get on with life but doesn’t seem to be working that way
Kids over relationships
Kids grow old quick my friend , soon they won't need so much of your time. Forget women for now and get on working at improving yourself. Good women will find you buddy. I garuntee that.
Thomas Wackerow widowed at 49 very scared,but you have no choice but to truck on
Yes! Kids over relationships, period.
Best GF I had after divorce was MUCH younger than I. And no F'n way did I marry her.
Sorry about the slight audio problems, I'm learning as I go. The content is still gold, and well worth tolerating the odd audio glitches.
New Rollo interview - Tomassi is 49, and married, I asked him what his dating tips for himself would be if things ended with Mrs. Tomassi.
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It is a hard thing to think about, what do you do if your spouse dies? Big thinking differences between men and women.
Skype recorder makes 2 separate tracks so you can later edit and control the volumes. Perhaps use audacity to splice them together.
Roughly 67% to 80% of second marriages end in divorce, while third marriages crumble at an even higher rate. Why would any man want to take a chance on only 20% successes rate?????
I saw that happen to a couple I know, for the wife it was her second marriage, she left husband no. 2 after 25 yrs. , they had 4 kids, now grown, and still live in the same house! wtf!
Pause the video at the 8 minute mark and ask yourself: Why even bother with women? Because no matter what you have done in the relationship in the past.....and whatever you will do in the future.....she will ALWAYS be thinking, "Can I do better? I think I can!" Well - FUCK THAT!!! I just turned 50 myself. My marriage ended 10 years ago, and I can say from my own experience in dating since then, and from paying attention to the women I know and deal with on a daily basis (I am in sales) that women will crush your heart and your self esteem in the blink of an eye and have NO remorse in doing so!
And yet they all say they want a good man. Why do they deserve that when they act like you say?
Exactly! They don't. I haven't been on a date in over a year now. I value myself too much to be scrutinized and played with by a woman. I have much better things to do, frankly.
Don't you find over time though, that you just become immune to the emotional shit. Like you really don't care?
Brad Hiuser hkk
some of you dudes are delusional. Women in their 20's and 30's aren't anxious to date 50 something guys. Does it happen, sure, but That is NOT what the vast majority of younger women want.
Only if they have money and are willing to spend it on her
I got money, in decent shape, in my 50’s and banging younger women. Really don’t care what they want
i look at what they do, not wht they say they want.
dancer within - who cares. Stick to dancing.
Yes they do!!!
I’m 53 and a bachelor. Never been married. I have no regrets except that I would have liked to have had a kid. But it just wasn’t in the cards. Dating wise I must say I have found my 50s (thus far) to be quite interesting. Sexually speaking I don’t think I will ever get involved with a woman in her 50s and over. I just don’t find them sexually attractive. Actually, the other day I ran into an ex girlfriend I haven’t seen in over 20 years. She was a full of 9 back in the day and had guys throwing dick at her all the time. I don’t want to be cruel. But now? At 53? Let’s put it this way. I didn’t even recognize her when she called my name. I could be friends with a chick over 50 if she’s cool. No problem. But dating? Nope. The women I still seem to attract these days are interestingly enough women in their late 20s to early 30s and of course women in their 50s and up. Women in their 40s don’t seem interested which I can’t figure out as to why? Sometimes women in their early 20s show interest because of the whole silver fox thing but rarely pull the trigger. It’s just an ego thing for them. I’m nowhere near being rich. But I’ve maintained my weight (170lbs at 6’0. 34waist), not ripped, a bit of spare tire that’s a bitch to get rid of over 50, have male pattern baldness though not terrible. If I could give any advice to my aging brothers I would say what’s good for young guys is good for older. Wear clothes that fit, have your own style , don’t try and look “young”, groom regularly and have some game. And don’t get married or have kids. Believe me, you don’t wanna be chasing around rug rats in your mid-50s. You just won’t have the energy that you did in your 20s and 30s.
Women in their 40s are at an age when then seek validation from younger men. At 50 they come to the realization that it will not happen and are just target practice for those young guys.
I'm 41. 5'1' 160lbs. I would TOTALLY date a 50 year old. where is he though?
So true bro! Try foster care and or domestic adoption. I never had bio kids of my own and this little 6 year man has rocked my world. Great way to meet people as well
Self esteem is a big thing after a divorce. Thank you for this video.
I donated 5 of rollo's books to local libraries. I wonder why they never even put them out to the public for check out. Women don't want female nature exposed and treated the books like hate speech to be burned or destroyed.
It's disgraceful for library staff to do this.
Libraries are full of females and ran by females here in the west....enough said
I'm 45 .. I have never felt so alive & empowered as a man as I do today. RP'd 2-3yrs ago, I found my path & purpose .. Women literally throw themselves at me .. 30yr olds lining up around the block trying to distract me, wanting me to spend what little time I have with them .. My life, my terms ..
Do the work & become your best self ..
Spin plates & choose from abundance ..
I'm 46 and It stuns me that now I"m getting more women attention than in my 30s.
@@sbc4434 eat clean, lift heavy, don’t slack
guys im 50,never married no kids.for the most part ive had a pretty ok life.ive had sex with many different ladies and had relationships.i was able to focus more on me so far as work,education,and hobbies.i can tell u dating at 50 is much harder than when we were younger but think for a sec,if u happen to not be good with the ladies even at a young age look up female escorts,not expensive especially looking at the cost of marriage kids are not entered in.
I'm a poor man who can't afford an escort or a sex worker. It's not for me.
Definitely a fan of escorts. No headfucks.
Shane great comment so right.
Hey pal, if it's any consolation, dating for young guys nowadays is no picnic either. I know I wouldn't want to be a young single man in today's dating scene. God I miss the 80s!
Seriously funny that Rollo thinks a woman in her late 20s would go for him. I assumed from his looks that he was in his 60s.
Rolls writes a fine book. Wish I read it decades ago.
AMEN brother. It makes me mildly pissed off that this information wasn't around when I was in my teens or early 20's. Or that my father never told me any of this - but then he was in a different time and he was totally plugged in, unlike me now. On the upside I have this amazing gift of knowledge to pass on to my sons.
I just wonder how all you guys will feel about it when the next “flight” of 50-ish divorced men start treating your daughters like plates to be spun, as recommended by this guy.
I'm 50, divorced, renting (obviously the ex kept the house) but with a good stable income for myself.
I am currently dating and have no desire to get sucked into marriage again. I can honestly say I'm living the best years of my life.
Why do you allow them to keep the house?....do you get compensation for your contribution in buying the house or women automatically getvtye house?
I am over fifty and I want to say that I have never been happier! Thank God that my ex figured out that she could do better than me. So, I am not stuck with her watching her age. (as she has not done well) I hit the weights every day and love my life. I date young women. Why? Because I can. (that is an attempt at humor) I am posting this as a way to try and encourage men over forty or fifty who want to start over. Yes, it's very possible. Again, I am thankful that she left! So thankful! I love my life! Good luck gentlemen!
Very well said. A middle aged man with his shit together has a lot of options!
Why would I be interested in what a married 50 year old guy tells me about dating? Strange.
Right. lol
The blind giving advice to the blind and deaf. Your conjectures are just that. Be the right man and marry the right woman...rule #1.
First he did note about an example where the wife at about 38 left her beta husband to marry a bodybuilder and she did. Two minutes later he says any woman past the age of 32 has practically no chance to marry at all. One of these is probably untrue, right. Lay off the shrooms, Mike.
Did you even listen closely to him?
I don't think the younger body builder guy is going to marry her? Bang her tea. Marry a 38 year old woman with that many kids you would have to be barking!
I heard the lie that women in their mid-thirties have little hope of marrying.
Women can easily get married from their thirties on.
good observation, these red pill clowns try and sell guys a fantasy that men get the last laugh in the end, but its all bullshit.
Uhg, I recall when I got divorced in my 40’s. I was devastated for a number of reasons.
Now in my 50’s I do not even have to chase women. There always one trying to lock me down and usually one or two on deck hoping the current one drops the ball.
I am sincerely at a place where I don’t give a crap if ai have a girlfriend or not…. And THAT is an aphrodisiac in and of itself for women.
Hypergamy scares me, I'm 56 in fantastic shape, I believe I am but also been told by women that I'm good looking, "but" I'm 5 months cancer free, unemployed, can't go back to my job or any job where my body is needed, in the middle of Covid19 pandemic, can't do anything as far as training is concerned, so I'm feeling lost and our marriage has been in trouble for a while, I'm afraid she's going to come home one night, in my present situation and I'll be homeless with no job
Once is enough for me. Most women in their 50s are out of shape and want gold. Sorry ladies...go for bronze
lol " Sorry ladies...go for bronze"
Mark Johnson and I’m sure all guys in their 50’s are hot HUH
Good point. I check out different dating sites occasionally and between the short "manlike" haircuts, tattoos, piercings, and extra 50 to 75 pounds the women are carrying, it's a horror show and that's before their 100 point "must have" lists and declaration that you must not care about their baggage. When you meet these women in public they cuss like drunken sailors and have really big mouths. I agree with Nancy Reagan, "Just say no"!!
Actually most woman are looking for a good companion.
@@lynnolson6680 get a dog
After 50...,No dating ,only Relating!
I'm in my thirties and shit this is some solid advice
Dating in your 50s: Form non-legal-binding relationships: DO NOT MARRY, DO NOT LIVE TOGETHER!
You really think we women with money , that we’ve earned are not afraid of losing our self financial security? Yeah we are and we remain single.
I'm 60 and I'm having a ball. Thank so much gentlemen
Me Too Broheim. Me too!
Doing what?
Incredible, incredible, incredible information for the young dudes at 20’s to 25’s who find this information at that age, it is life-changing information!
At my age it’s still incredible but if you’re lucky enough to find this channel Richard and Others like Rollo Tomassi you really lucked out early. Take this, devour it and trust it!
I love Rollo’s reply, thanks for the good advice
Romantic relationships are way overrated.
@Richard Wolfe True. We could call this movie "Romancing the Stone", because that's the reality.
The bulge in your pants that she is interested in..... will be your wallet. ;-)
@@frednil8304 If you provide both bulges, it will be fine.
Guys... Take some advice please. Men do not make a real effort anymore. They send a message like, hey beautiful... How can you even get started with that kind of comment?? The men I remember are the ones who actually pick up the phone and dial my number, NOT the stupid daily text message with no real content. I and women like me, do not take men who only text seriously. We go for the men who will actually call -- and offer to pick you up (after a first date). You will have an edge if you get your hair cut and your teeth whitened. Face it, we are also visual. So if you make a real effort to clean your shoes, brush your teeth, dress the part... you WILL eventually get to the point where you will get a quality woman. We are not gold diggers, we just want men who don't need US to take care of them.
Says the lady with kids hanging all over her!
Pure gold!
Excellent discussion, thanks Brother. I've turned 60 and over the years dated but always pulled back at points, there something strong within has always asked me: "What the fuck am I doing?"....Maybe Rollo was sending me a message...
This dude and your channel changed my life! Thanks!
Rollo changed my life also.
Ive seen a pattern emerge where once Ive bought a nice expensive gift for a girlfriend they tend to either lose respect or end things soon after. Perhaps as they realise it may be a while before getting another gift or even worse they feel like they have to reciprocate and buy me something. Either way i won't be over generous with random women again
James Dixon Their heads are way too inflated,and only appreciate what's hard to get.
James Dixon Don't do that unless you are super close to the girl. If it's just a random girlfriend, it's just a bit cringey and will make her feel embarrassed.
James, you are trying to qualify yourself to the woman, which is hyper beta behavior. Never buy any gift with the exception of a $40.00 birthday or Christmas gift. You must be the trophy, there is no such thing as a trophy wife, MEN are the trophy. I own 2 cars, 2 motorcycles, my own home, and I make 6 figures. I am the prize. You have to look at yourself as the prize, and SHE has to qualify herself to you. Ask her question about herself and have her explain her reasons for doing whatever. Men age like wine, women age like milk.
Don C thanks Don well said great advice
blondeaussiesurfer pending i thought we were close but obviously not from her perspective!
Wait, you mean joining the 50+ dating site "Our Time" isn't on his list of suggestions?
In the alternative/counter culture scene: music, art, spirituality...Hypergamy seems to be less of an issue than in main stream society...money and climbing the ladder for both sexes is not such an obsession...becoming single again recently in my mid 50's an unexpected calm has come over me...my life is so good [and with very little money] that I feel like I'm really plugging into my true identity...for the first time in my life I feel no pressure to chase after women whatsoever...
Really need this..rollo is fantastic..and clear.. Gives me strenght
I wish you pressed him when he said women in late 20's to early 30's were NECESSITOUS.... In what way? Are we speaking monetarily (student loans, CC debt)? Psychologically needy? BOTH? Necessitous in other ways? .... I'm 49 [50 in Dec].... Divorced 5 years.... 4 kids.... Last think I want I a 28 - 32 year old girlfriend.... Earn 6 figures - but WON'T ever be a sugar daddy.... / 38 - 45 and still in good shape is fine... and most women 38 - 45 have kids in their teens so not much issues with sitter, etc....
Grab a copy of his second book, about 1/3 of it is spent on the strategies used by each demo.
Have all 3 Rollo books... Thanx.... BTW, if you have an interest in the WHY... not just the WHAT .... 2 good evol psych books are SPERM WARS and THE RED QUEEN....
True that brother. The 35 - 49 age bracket of woman is pretty good because they still look good (some do). They can be fun play dates and you can enjoy the benefits of a woman's company. They're past the baby rabies stage so they're not as crazy as the younger ones. And, as you say, their kids are older and much less of a hassle. In fact it's good they have kids to focus on so we aren't their 24/7 focus. They love fun and sex but are still focused on their kids. Win for us!
Great vid guys. I’m 51. Was married for 23 yrs. since divorce dated several women. I won’t lie was looking for a relationship and none have worked out. Not that I worry because I live an abundance life. If they come they come. If they don’t they don’t. And I agree I will never marry ever again. My last girl wanted marriage. Never!
What if a man's strategy is to avoid any arguments with his girlfriend or wife (common law). We know that there's men that are the silent types, and that seems to be working fine for some men. So for the men that aren't the silent types, could they practice that and change there personality and character. The downside is that you don't get that spontaneous dialogue during the evenings or weekends with your wife/friend, which is to avoid arguments, but the benefits are that you have someone to sleep with 7 days a week (again, body language, cuddle and sleep only). This lifestyle works even better when your sharing a home with other relatives, because couples usually avoids getting into arguments after 9 pm for in respect to others around. Another point is if a guy wants a dialogue/chat, he can always have it anytime with his male friends.
I’m that guy 😂
I was divorced at 51 and 55 now
Having to time of my life!
So many women it’s crazy
All EXCELLENT points!!!
Best dating advice for men in their 50s: **Dont**
Best dating advice for men in their 40s: **Dont**
Best dating advice for men in their 30s: **Dont**
Best dating advice for men in their 20s: **Dont**
NEVER date. Just do java meets, clubs, hiking, & sex.
Me, I'd rather travel than spend a PENNY on today's so called "ladies" And yes, I've traveled the entire planet, but prefer RV'ing for sometimes a month at a time. 52% of the population are women. They are literally everywhere. Women are so common/ plentiful that their worth is that of a bag of peanuts.
If she cooks better than I, is at least as neat & clean as I, and pays her own way, then that woman is worthy for more than just sex. But far too often sex is all they want, and too often that is all they are good for. Pump & Dump is not my idea of a "good time" , so back to the original point: NEVER DATE.
Any women responding to this thread are NOT worth a second thought. Don't take what they are saying as truthful, or of having any merit whatsoever. Don't trust them, don't listen, don't consider their point of view, because they are NOT your PROBLEM, and their credibility is highly questionable.
As a middle-aged MGTOW who takes care of HIMSELF, I get all the action I desire, with none of the hassle, and almost zero RISK. In short: Today's women are NOT worth risking your well-being over.
@@sbc4434 Agreed. That's human nature for ya.
Hypergamy in older women aka
Midwife crisis. They usually end up regretting the stupid choices they’ve made.
Great Video!
Thanks for giving me my daily dose of common sense.
the dating scene is complete crap.Poeple are fake,self absorbed and myopic.There are some good ones but how possibility of finding them.
Same here I try I give up i just remain single taking care of my 3 kids
Why in the world as a 50 year old male would you ever want to marry again…
I'm 53, ex left me after 18 years with 3 teenage daughters. Tried online dating, the women are not very attractive and come with a lot of baggage. Is there any hope to find love again?
...nope.
Yes you can
I took it outside of the United States and my Marketplace value was considerably higher than in the u.s.
Good guest and information.
Great one Boys 👌👌👌👌👌
A man may do a good job of being a husband, father, and provider, but doing those things well actually detracts from being an exciting lover, a dream maker, "a bodybuilder," and so on. A guy may have to choose one "role" or the other: a husband or a Don Juan. I don't think he can be both. It's a cynical view, but husbands should go into a marriage with an understanding that the nuptials will most likely fail, and he should prepare for and accept it if it happens.
@@sbc4434 Well said.
With all due respect... A guy in his 50s getting with a girl in her 20s? Hahahaha! Maybe once in your lifetime bro (maybe) unless you have 8 figures in the bank and live like it. Someone needs a little red pill.
It's only possible for high status, high net worth individuals. Even incredible looking normal guys can't really pull that off. Please be clear about that for regular guys like you and me. You seemed to say that's in reach for you.
Yes, I believe that but not 30 years younger
Lots of Girls need to feed their drug habits
@dcosb09 Looks are icing on the cake. Gotta have money!
good observation, these red pill clowns try and sell guys a fantasy that men get the last laugh in the end, but its all bullshit.
Create a great cake of a life and then invite a really great woman to be the icing.
How can a man go through life without shagging? Here are my tips to get loads of sex into your 50s. Create a social circle with a large pool of women. Play the long game. DO NOT ever chase women. They will show interest in you if you have one iota of charisma which you should have because you're over 50 with a lifetime of experience to draw on. That means you get to CHOOSE! There are TONS of women over 40 who's kids are off their hands, have their own money, are certainly not interested in getting married again (they've been there are done that) and look fantastic from doing yoga three times a week.
How sad. I love being married and can't imagine how lonely it must be older
As a man that has been divorced 7 yrs ago.. I am now 56.. I was married most of my life.. now Alone. I hate being alone.. I miss sex.. I miss having someone next to me in bed.. I was happy being married and now I am not. I tried...tried.. tried to be alone and happy.. it just does not work for me. I haven't dated anyone in those 7 yrs.. because I cannot find someone that wants to date me... I am not a good looking guy.. I know that.. I am also poor... I lost my career of 22 yrs.. and had a hard time of even finding a job...so I took whatever I could get.. which means I'm poor. I don't own a home.. I don't own a nice car.. my car is 20yrs old. I'm 56.. I don't have many years left to date.. that is what is in my mind... I don't want to be alone anymore.
Marcia W - It's nice that you've found what makes you happy in life, but I'm happily divorced and enjoy being happy and free. To think of this as "sad" is just being negative. Each of us have to follow our own path in life.
@@clowncat8464
1. Get a dog
2. Buy a cheap motorcycle
3. Volunteer at a charity
4. Seek to establish a relationship with your Creator, the Lord Jesus Christ. (He is the source of ultimate fulfillment.)
@@clowncat8464 Any updates?
The proper way, according to societal standards, to try and "get with" a girl is to date her for several months, give her a $10,000 engagement ring and provide a $400,000 house. If she's very attractive, add 1 or 2 zeroes to those numbers. In practical terms, there are ways to circumvent those standards and just "hook up." This approach is not considered decent in society, but some people are very skilled at it.
50"s Dating, right on. Most woman at around my age seem to be broking in one way or another. so when I just found out that there is a calculation value you can use to find out what is the youngish age to your own. it's "your current age divided by two, then add 7 to that number" and there you go. who know, not me...
It should feel miserable to advocate for "spinning plates" and having a 19 year old daughter. I don't know how he explains to his daughter the spinners who dump her before she gets to the age of "epiphany". It should feel weird to see his own daughters with old men trained in his own school of "alpha male". It should feel weirder to see her father disrespecting women.