I like the new format! One thing that I think you could add would be a decibel reading. Most bows don't shock your hands that much anymore, so I care a lot more about how loud it is. I would guess that the half-inch of draw length is coming from the 85% let-off. From what I understand, lowering your let-off decreases your draw length. Bear is probably measuring their drawing lengths at 70%. Keep up the good work!
Vibration test 1661 was from when you came off the wall, it was 1269 at the shot. 1278, 1269 and 1802, but hitting the back wall on the last shot looked like it was hitting over 1700. Cool concept, might take a little more testing to get bugs out.
MFJJ love the new process! I’m a firearms instructor and take similar number based approaches to my comparisons. I started shooting a bow this summer and I’m excited to see more reviews like this. One thing to consider is an excel type document that you can update and share in a link with every video that shows the current scores of the bows tested so far. At the end of testing you’ll have a comprehensive document unlike anything anyone else is currently doing that I’m aware of. Then in future years you can compare the bows to previous generations.
I really like this format. I'm just getting into watching bow reviews as I am trying to progress my knowledge and this is the second review of the Persist. I really liked some of the details as it grew my bow knowledge and out of the two reviews, this one was by far the best. I definitely would love to see more reviews like this.
I like the idea. But your scoring still appears to be a little subjective or maybe I just missed something. I think you need to determine your value in each category before you test the bows to be consistent over time. Example, IBO speed - within X number of rated would be top score. What value do you then apply if it within 5fps off, what value do you apply if it is 5-10/11-15/16-20fps off and so on. Do the same with the other values your measuring. Example 30in draw length. What value do you apply if the draw is within a 32/16/8 of the bows rated draw length, should 1/2 inch get a zero? Having these values set prior to rating the bow will keep the score from being subjective and evenly applied across the bows. You won’t have to say, Do I give it a 3 or a 2, the decision has already been made before you even review the bow. Hope this made sense.
You should take your top pick from 2023 and run it through the same evaluation to get a baseline to compare all the 2024 bows to.
I like the new format! One thing that I think you could add would be a decibel reading. Most bows don't shock your hands that much anymore, so I care a lot more about how loud it is. I would guess that the half-inch of draw length is coming from the 85% let-off. From what I understand, lowering your let-off decreases your draw length. Bear is probably measuring their drawing lengths at 70%. Keep up the good work!
A couple things I would mention regarding the vibration test. (I've been doing vibration testing for a living for the last 13 years)
Mathew's is always a half inch long and most bows are a little over
Vibration test 1661 was from when you came off the wall, it was 1269 at the shot. 1278, 1269 and 1802, but hitting the back wall on the last shot looked like it was hitting over 1700. Cool concept, might take a little more testing to get bugs out.
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MFJJ love the new process! I’m a firearms instructor and take similar number based approaches to my comparisons. I started shooting a bow this summer and I’m excited to see more reviews like this. One thing to consider is an excel type document that you can update and share in a link with every video that shows the current scores of the bows tested so far. At the end of testing you’ll have a comprehensive document unlike anything anyone else is currently doing that I’m aware of. Then in future years you can compare the bows to previous generations.
Love the new way you're doing everything. Always great product and reviews. Keep up the good work, Bud.
I really like this format. I'm just getting into watching bow reviews as I am trying to progress my knowledge and this is the second review of the Persist. I really liked some of the details as it grew my bow knowledge and out of the two reviews, this one was by far the best. I definitely would love to see more reviews like this.
Love this format
Thanks for this review. Love the new format. Looking forward to future reviews. Please test the new Bear Alaskan and other mid priced 2024 bows.
HELL YES JOSH!! Yall are really stepping up your review process. Fantesticle work!
The bow reviews are starting and I cant wait to see all the new bows and what theyve changed.
Love the new format. Looking foeward to all the reviews this year.
I like the scoring system. Im very interested to see what all the new bows score. Good job coming up with this new format, it keeps things interesting
Love your new setup on the bow reviews.
I like the idea. But your scoring still appears to be a little subjective or maybe I just missed something. I think you need to determine your value in each category before you test the bows to be consistent over time. Example, IBO speed - within X number of rated would be top score. What value do you then apply if it within 5fps off, what value do you apply if it is 5-10/11-15/16-20fps off and so on. Do the same with the other values your measuring. Example 30in draw length. What value do you apply if the draw is within a 32/16/8 of the bows rated draw length, should 1/2 inch get a zero? Having these values set prior to rating the bow will keep the score from being subjective and evenly applied across the bows. You won’t have to say, Do I give it a 3 or a 2, the decision has already been made before you even review the bow. Hope this made sense.
So far this has been the best set up to review bows. Less sales speeches and more real info. Keep it up.
I'm actually more curious about the Bear Alaskan XT. A $560 MSRP bow rated at 335 fps, 33" ATA with a pic rail option for sight and rest.
Well done . luv the new way of testing, adding the 3 arrow weights gives the buyer much better vision of what he might be getting