The giant short faced hyena and cave hyena are two different species actually. The cave hyena being the European species Crocuta Crocuta Spelaea. Both however were in the same size category, the size of a lioness, so either would fit the bill
The Nandi bear sounds to me like nothing more than misidentification of brown hyenas, since they grow as tall as cheetahs, with large skulls and being a bit heavier than cheetahs, being the second largest of true hyenas in existence alive today...
"Unicorns live on the moon, poop skittles, and fart rainbows" ...seeing as we can just make up whatever suits us and call it "science" Kind of sounds more like lazy arbitrary racism, but whatever helps you sleep at night....
@@uncannyvalley2350 you'd think English folk would know what a cat looks like, but yet cats are frequently misidentified as lions and black panthers in England. Water logged logs have been misidentified as the loch ness monster. Hell, I myself have mistaken sticks for snakes and my own pet sheep for dogs. Human perception is far from perfect. We aren't evolved to identify things perfectly. We evolved to identify if something is a threat or not and our brain actually invents a lot of detail. That's why you can fail to see something right in front of your own eyes at times. Even though it's there, your brain simply doesn't 'see' it. I would say a good many sightings are indeed hyenas. Too much of the description matches a hyena perfectly.
@@edwinreveron870 you have zero reason to say these sightings came from intoxicated individuals. Especially since we have stories from people who were on the job at the time if sighting.
Actually other than the Atlas Bear and Agriotherium, there was another bear that lived in Africa, it was called Indarctos. It lived in the Miocene Epoch during the same time as Agriotherium and was around the same size as a European Brown Bear. So a possible relative of Indarctos, might be the Nandi Bear? Just a thought!
I love this channel finally TH-cam recommended me a channel with content I'm into. If the Nandi bear is real I think it probably just has to be an unnaturally large Heyna, or a new subspecies of Heyna. I don't think it's a giant baboon or bear.
Its a bear Hyenas are pack animals the nandi bear is a animal that travels by itself. Iif the nandi bear was a hyena than people should see a bunch of them.
I had to think of the huge difference in seize we do face also with our own kind - just remember the famous wrestler Andrew the Giant (7,4 ft and 450 lb). BTW along the line, I noticed you were mentioning Dr. Shuker; I'm familiar with him and I think, he did a lot of good work within this unusual field of zoology. Thank you for this interesting thought provoking presentation!
Can spotted and brown hyenas hybridize? The Nandi bear sounds like an unusual hyena, so I wonder if it’s an unexpected hybrid of those two known species.
@@PlainsPup That never happens until it does AND is the absolute word of God...err, ACADEMIA. Other than some critter deliberately kept in an enclosure, and fed and protected...in the wild, in nature, hybrids can NEVER EXIST, so the Science sez. A Liger cold know.
@@theunknowngamer5477 Hybridization is rare under natural conditions, but here are a few examples: 1) Wolf x coyote 2) Wisent x aurochs 3) Whitetail x mule deer 4) Humans x Neanderthals
@@PlainsPup You forgot the Spotted OWL. Appreciate the list/insight, about Hybrids. After years of bending over to the rational of Science, loosing any reality of Biology, Animal Husbandry, common sense, dismissing EVERY video on TH-cam which contradicts the Normal Thought of Existence concerning Nature... Sarcasm is more than this Troll can contain. I enjoy the Absolute word from most every source debating how some forms of life USE TOOLS. Animals, yes...Mammals, Fish, Birds, etc. ...just not, never, impossible for Insects. Termites in Africa, maybe. Symbiotic relationships....nah. Unless such an event does have ACADEMIC sponsorship.
What? I'm commenting on how easily an animal could be misidentified when someone is scared, or they just see a fleeting glimpse of it etc. It had nothing to do with knowing what a subspecies was, or if the people even knew about the local subspecies in the area. Maybe don't lick as many windows, and try some reading comprehension.
@@knobjob2839 I think misidentified something while in fear is more of a western and american phenomenon. Misidentifying due to ignorance is more of an old world phenomenon. Atleast you weren't talking abt pokemon like I thought, so that's good.
Can hyena species create hybrids? Could one of the creatures be a brown hyena spotted hyena hybrid? I realize neither is normally properly larger enough, but as ligers demonstrate, hybrids can have different sizes from their parents. Awesome video, thanks for sharing!
Perhaps Wild dogs and Hyena, but I cant see the 2 getting along. More likely it's an unidentified species. It's very similar to reports of 'Dogman' from around the world
@@uncannyvalley2350 Hyena can't breed with dogs at all, cats and bears are closer relatives. I don't of anything it could breed with hyenas. Even if it could, it would porbably be like sheep/goat hybrids, extremely rare and very sickly.
I think it's important to remember who reports these sightings and record legends. Many things that in Europe would have been collected and recorded by mythology experts and historians for example were recorded by big game hunters in Africa and South America. It doesn't "help" that early cryptid sightings usually were in a time when indeed new large species were still discovered , or at least the hope of still finding new unknown species was still alive among hunters and explorers. A sighting that in Europe would have been classified as "big dog or wolf mistaken for a Barghest (hell hound) or werewolf by frightened man" would be taken much more seriously by a big game hunter still hoping to find an unknown species (and kill it).
These interest me the most out of many of these "possible" undiscovered creatures. I find this type of creature facinating. Also somewhat plausible. If we are comparing to most other cryptids.
Thank you for a very interesting video. Personally, I don't believe that there could be so much figurative "smoke" without there being at least a little "fire" beneath it all. One or two cases of mistaken identity I could believe, but not dozens. Not from natives and from experienced big game hunters alike. I think that choosing to believe that so many experienced, intelligent people could all be so ridiculously wrong about witnessing a rare and un-documented animal, so many times, would be a far more unlikely position to take than simply considering that there may well have been an interesting and rarely-spotted animal in eastern Africa that never made it into the annals of accepted academic taxonomy. Sadly, it does appear that the Nandi bear, whatever its actual place in the biological family tree of planet Earth, has probably been driven to extinction by human activity. I wonder how many other species have already been, or will be, annihilated by humans without our even having been aware of their existence?
Koddoelo It is a huge baboon. Chemosit or kerit it is animal walking on two legs.I thought for a long time that it might be Pachycrocuta brevirostris.Unfortunately, that doesn't fit either. Nandi ,, Bear'' has 3 fingers
Can different species of hyena hybridize at all? Hybrid individuals can turn out significantly larger and stockier than their parents, like ligers and mules! I think this could partly explain the visual differences. And a hybrid individual may not be accepted socially with either parent species, which could result in different behaviors. Plausible?
So I have a guess, well, 2 infact. The first is probably the most accurate, the atlas bear supposedly went extinct in 1870, but you know what I'm going to say about that. My next guess is the legend of the enedi tiger, which is from Africa. This was supposed to be a large prehistoric well, a nimravid which are related to hyenas pretty closely. The reason I said this was because the beast is as big as they mentioned walks plantigrade like a bear and had hairy feet.
Does anybody else connect the descriptions of the hyena like creature to the descriptions of the Beast of Gevaudan? Im not advocating for its existence but it's interesting none of those animals could really be identified
Could it be a case someone brought a brown bear to Africa and release it in the wild? I Mean someone brought a leopard as a cub to Haiti back in the 60's. Once it grew it kept eating the local dogs. Imagine seeing that thing for the first time without having knowledge of it?
It's real my cousin cought a pitcher of it and we heard it's howling witch sounds like a woman screaming and it was slapping trees but the only evidence other than the picture is that it left a big dent on the dumpster in front of the house It looked and sat exactly like this 11:50 but looks more like a bear
my dad told me stories of African monsters that were passed down through our generations from my great ,great ,great, great, great granddaddy-o who visited Africa Joseph Yogi (stop it with the yogi bear jokes alright!) he called didn't call it the nandi bear instead he opted to call it the great Afri-bear! for copyright reasons. joke.
yeah man find a new wild animal as I want as a pet bear dog sort face cave bear saber tooth cat and Nandi bear no one is breaking into ur home with them around if so it is BYE BYE with that person
I think you are confused. Despite the video being about cryptids, Sir Ice Bear isn't a conspiracy theorist and if you go through the comments of these videos they're full of him debunking the "evidence" provided by true believers.
Please show the "polar bear" picture at the beginning and end of your posts, your youtube site is wonderful but a polar bear posted randomly throughout your great pics of subjects is very annoying and distracting.
Hello, I am a Chinese audience. There is an UMA in the mountains and forests in central China. It is a kind of hyena, with no scientific name. We call it "donkey head wolf". I have detailed information in this regard. How can I contact you?
underrated channel.
Thanks!
Your coverage of more obscure animals is remarkable. Your channel is fantastic.
Indeed
The giant short faced hyena and cave hyena are two different species actually. The cave hyena being the European species Crocuta Crocuta Spelaea. Both however were in the same size category, the size of a lioness, so either would fit the bill
The Nandi bear sounds to me like nothing more than misidentification of brown hyenas, since they grow as tall as cheetahs, with large skulls and being a bit heavier than cheetahs, being the second largest of true hyenas in existence alive today...
Because there is no way native Africans would know the difference 🙄
@@uncannyvalley2350 -There are lots of drunks, druggies and liars in this world, because of that, I still say misidentification....
"Unicorns live on the moon, poop skittles, and fart rainbows"
...seeing as we can just make up whatever suits us and call it "science"
Kind of sounds more like lazy arbitrary racism, but whatever helps you sleep at night....
@@uncannyvalley2350 you'd think English folk would know what a cat looks like, but yet cats are frequently misidentified as lions and black panthers in England.
Water logged logs have been misidentified as the loch ness monster. Hell, I myself have mistaken sticks for snakes and my own pet sheep for dogs.
Human perception is far from perfect. We aren't evolved to identify things perfectly. We evolved to identify if something is a threat or not and our brain actually invents a lot of detail. That's why you can fail to see something right in front of your own eyes at times. Even though it's there, your brain simply doesn't 'see' it.
I would say a good many sightings are indeed hyenas. Too much of the description matches a hyena perfectly.
@@edwinreveron870 you have zero reason to say these sightings came from intoxicated individuals. Especially since we have stories from people who were on the job at the time if sighting.
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Shoutout to Trey the Explainer 😎🦖👍
Clearly it was a owl
Actually other than the Atlas Bear and Agriotherium, there was another bear that lived in Africa, it was called Indarctos. It lived in the Miocene Epoch during the same time as Agriotherium and was around the same size as a European Brown Bear. So a possible relative of Indarctos, might be the Nandi Bear? Just a thought!
Like an englishman mistaking a rabbit for a fox? I've done that. Distance and speed are great obscurers
So... Wargs do exist?
perhaps the nandi bear is just that a bear, an exceedingly rare surviving population of the atlas bear.
That's at least a plausible suggestion, or maybe a large sized population of hyenas.
considering a small population of the Barbary Lion was rediscovered, it's not implausible.
@@oucyan where and when?
@@tompcd1189 don't remember. google it yourself.
@@oucyan well it doesnt exist lol, unlucky
I love this channel finally TH-cam recommended me a channel with content I'm into. If the Nandi bear is real I think it probably just has to be an unnaturally large Heyna, or a new subspecies of Heyna. I don't think it's a giant baboon or bear.
Me too! So glad i found this channel
Its a bear Hyenas are pack animals the nandi bear is a animal that travels by itself. Iif the nandi bear was a hyena than people should see a bunch of them.
@@chrisshook8471 eh, if it's a different species of hyena like Aardvark, there is the possibility of it being a solitary specie.
I had to think of the huge difference in seize we do face also with our own kind - just remember the famous wrestler Andrew the Giant (7,4 ft and 450 lb). BTW along the line, I noticed you were mentioning Dr. Shuker; I'm familiar with him and I think, he did a lot of good work within this unusual field of zoology. Thank you for this interesting thought provoking presentation!
Back in the early 70s I read a book explaining that the nandi bear as a African bigfoot
Without a doubt it’s a Bearenaboon.
The infamous rival to ManBearPig
If it looks like a bear
Moves like a bear
Sounds like a bear
Its a bear. XD
Cryptozoologist and spec evo: it must be giant quadrapedal penguin!
Except it also looks like hyena and bears do not
Laughs in Panda
African natives have no concept of what a bear is.
@@georgeelmerdenbrough6906 bears are solitary animals. Hyenas are pack animals so there should be more of them.
I love this channel.
Thank you!
Can spotted and brown hyenas hybridize? The Nandi bear sounds like an unusual hyena, so I wonder if it’s an unexpected hybrid of those two known species.
Nope. Bears never, ever, or will. hybridize.
HOW could a Hyena, anywhere?
@@theunknowngamer5477 Sometimes related species can hybridize.
@@PlainsPup
That never happens until it does AND is the absolute
word of God...err, ACADEMIA.
Other than some critter deliberately kept in an enclosure,
and fed and protected...in the wild, in nature, hybrids can
NEVER EXIST, so the Science sez. A Liger cold know.
@@theunknowngamer5477 Hybridization is rare under natural conditions, but here are a few examples:
1) Wolf x coyote
2) Wisent x aurochs
3) Whitetail x mule deer
4) Humans x Neanderthals
@@PlainsPup
You forgot the Spotted OWL.
Appreciate the list/insight, about Hybrids.
After years of bending over to the rational of Science,
loosing any reality of Biology, Animal Husbandry, common sense,
dismissing EVERY video on TH-cam which contradicts the
Normal Thought of Existence concerning Nature...
Sarcasm is more than this Troll can contain.
I enjoy the Absolute word from most every source debating
how some forms of life USE TOOLS.
Animals, yes...Mammals, Fish, Birds, etc.
...just not, never, impossible for Insects.
Termites in Africa, maybe.
Symbiotic relationships....nah.
Unless such an event does have ACADEMIC sponsorship.
In times of high stress, I can imagine people misidentifying a subspecies of an already known animal.
I'm sure you can imagine all sorts of things.
Do you know what a subspecies is?
What? I'm commenting on how easily an animal could be misidentified when someone is scared, or they just see a fleeting glimpse of it etc. It had nothing to do with knowing what a subspecies was, or if the people even knew about the local subspecies in the area.
Maybe don't lick as many windows, and try some reading comprehension.
@@knobjob2839 lol. Was that an attempt at an insult? Are you for real?
@@knobjob2839 I think misidentified something while in fear is more of a western and american phenomenon. Misidentifying due to ignorance is more of an old world phenomenon. Atleast you weren't talking abt pokemon like I thought, so that's good.
Can hyena species create hybrids? Could one of the creatures be a brown hyena spotted hyena hybrid? I realize neither is normally properly larger enough, but as ligers demonstrate, hybrids can have different sizes from their parents.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing!
Oh, I just commented the same thing haha. That was my guess too, thinking of ligers and mules
Perhaps Wild dogs and Hyena, but I cant see the 2 getting along. More likely it's an unidentified species. It's very similar to reports of 'Dogman' from around the world
@@uncannyvalley2350 Hyena can't breed with dogs at all, cats and bears are closer relatives. I don't of anything it could breed with hyenas. Even if it could, it would porbably be like sheep/goat hybrids, extremely rare and very sickly.
@@uncannyvalley2350 Hyenas and dogs aren’t at all related.
@@grahamstrouse1165 thanks Graham
Now look up Simbakubwa
I think it's important to remember who reports these sightings and record legends. Many things that in Europe would have been collected and recorded by mythology experts and historians for example were recorded by big game hunters in Africa and South America.
It doesn't "help" that early cryptid sightings usually were in a time when indeed new large species were still discovered , or at least the hope of still finding new unknown species was still alive among hunters and explorers.
A sighting that in Europe would have been classified as "big dog or wolf mistaken for a Barghest (hell hound) or werewolf by frightened man" would be taken much more seriously by a big game hunter still hoping to find an unknown species (and kill it).
It’s man bear pig! Haha jk great content
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What if it was a guy dressed in a fursuit?
This channel is a sanctuary and I am running out of them
I hope you’re doing well
You sure it's not a long haired hyena basically a brown hyena
Pure Genius from Dr Polaris!! Bravo!!
These interest me the most out of many of these "possible" undiscovered creatures. I find this type of creature facinating. Also somewhat plausible. If we are comparing to most other cryptids.
Walking With Beasts promoted a pseudo science?
Sounds more like fun speculation using the relevant topic, but that could be very easily misunderstood by children.
Thank you for a very interesting video. Personally, I don't believe that there could be so much figurative "smoke" without there being at least a little "fire" beneath it all. One or two cases of mistaken identity I could believe, but not dozens. Not from natives and from experienced big game hunters alike. I think that choosing to believe that so many experienced, intelligent people could all be so ridiculously wrong about witnessing a rare and un-documented animal, so many times, would be a far more unlikely position to take than simply considering that there may well have been an interesting and rarely-spotted animal in eastern Africa that never made it into the annals of accepted academic taxonomy.
Sadly, it does appear that the Nandi bear, whatever its actual place in the biological family tree of planet Earth, has probably been driven to extinction by human activity. I wonder how many other species have already been, or will be, annihilated by humans without our even having been aware of their existence?
Great content. I love paleontology and cryptids.
You forgot to mention another thing about the nandi bear: It eats human brains
Koddoelo It is a huge baboon. Chemosit or kerit it is animal walking on two legs.I thought for a long time that it might be Pachycrocuta brevirostris.Unfortunately, that doesn't fit either. Nandi ,, Bear'' has 3 fingers
Obviously it's an African chuppacabra
Why would these specimens disappear?
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
I know right?
Can different species of hyena hybridize at all? Hybrid individuals can turn out significantly larger and stockier than their parents, like ligers and mules! I think this could partly explain the visual differences. And a hybrid individual may not be accepted socially with either parent species, which could result in different behaviors. Plausible?
Mules are not larger than horses, one of the parentt species, they're inbetween. But I get what you mean.
It's actually Yogi bear 🐻
Yea
You are kraken me up 🦑😂🤣
So I have a guess, well, 2 infact.
The first is probably the most accurate, the atlas bear supposedly went extinct in 1870, but you know what I'm going to say about that.
My next guess is the legend of the enedi tiger, which is from Africa.
This was supposed to be a large prehistoric well, a nimravid which are related to hyenas pretty closely.
The reason I said this was because the beast is as big as they mentioned walks plantigrade like a bear and had hairy feet.
I have to ask, is it a ManBearPig?
😁
not to be confused with the Nandi Pandi.......
Does anybody else connect the descriptions of the hyena like creature to the descriptions of the Beast of Gevaudan? Im not advocating for its existence but it's interesting none of those animals could really be identified
I go to google and ask extinct animals in africa from thousands or millions of years ago and they dont show a list
It's possible that calicotherium became omnivorous
Hear me out... Bodybuilder hyenas!
Really low audio my dude...
Good work keep on going
Nandi bear Probably a Hyena Bear or Baboon possibly a Now extinct Chalicothere a Vegan turn into a Kiler
I know this species, quite interesting. I know it as Amphicyon, pure badass.
OK the what you think of this I implore you to look at this footage from the atlas mountains
Cryptids are always bears like if bears are the gods of earth
See bears in Africa would be formidable opponents for other African predators.
There used to live bears in the Atlas mountains of North Africa.
@@dibla22 I meant sub saharan africa, not moroccan mountains
Who in the megalina is this beast
Its probly just a lone hyena
Well all i know is run maybe or call some for help and get in a tree
Reminds me of when I got fingered against a bin in an alley way!!!! Love this channel 😄
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Ha!
Dinocrocuta Gigantea ?
Dogman Encounters Radio
Dinocrocuta ?
I vote werewolves
I THINK THAT NANDI BEAR CREATURES ARE ANCIENT ATLAS BEARS THAT SURVIVE IN AFRICA UNNEXPLORED FORES AREA
Dinofelis maybe
I think the Nandi bear is either a atlas bear or a cave hyena
Its a Babena !!
Well im thinking you see one you run to a tree
🐻
its a bear
Could it be a case someone brought a brown bear to Africa and release it in the wild? I Mean someone brought a leopard as a cub to Haiti back in the 60's. Once it grew it kept eating the local dogs. Imagine seeing that thing for the first time without having knowledge of it?
Not for that long with one bear
It's real my cousin cought a pitcher of it and we heard it's howling witch sounds like a woman screaming and it was slapping trees but the only evidence other than the picture is that it left a big dent on the dumpster in front of the house
It looked and sat exactly like this 11:50 but looks more like a bear
It's a man bear pig
my dad told me stories of African monsters that were passed down through our generations from my great ,great ,great, great, great granddaddy-o who visited Africa Joseph Yogi (stop it with the yogi bear jokes alright!) he called didn't call it the nandi bear instead he opted to call it the great Afri-bear! for copyright reasons.
joke.
yeah man find a new wild animal as I want as a pet
bear dog sort face cave bear saber tooth cat and Nandi bear
no one is breaking into ur home with them around if so it is BYE BYE with that person
The bear dog etlodont heynadon yeah think the bear dog is the one
I do believe this is a prehistoric carnivore of some kind. We think we know everything, we don't.
Video is too quiet
wolverine
Can you turn the volume up a little? That and your videos tend to make me bored or sleepy.
This sounds like a "you" problem
You know you can turn the volume up right?
If your good at climbing
How many channels have you created under various names, ten, fifteen ?
Just this one.
Wtf is up with this comment lol
I think you are confused. Despite the video being about cryptids, Sir Ice Bear isn't a conspiracy theorist and if you go through the comments of these videos they're full of him debunking the "evidence" provided by true believers.
Please show the "polar bear" picture at the beginning and end of your posts, your youtube site is wonderful but a polar bear posted randomly throughout your great pics of subjects is very annoying and distracting.
I love this channel its so informational and cool
Hello, I am a Chinese audience. There is an UMA in the mountains and forests in central China. It is a kind of hyena, with no scientific name. We call it "donkey head wolf". I have detailed information in this regard. How can I contact you?
So... Wargs do exist?
If only!