Banshee Review, Kings Island Bolliger & Mabillard Inverted Coaster | World's Worst B&M Invert?

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  • Banshee at Kings Island is the longest and fastest inverted coaster built by Bolliger & Mabillard. This invert features a unique layout with seven giant inversions and a brilliant use of terrain. That sounds good on paper, but I think Banshee is the worst B&M invert because of how it runs today. Find out why in this review!
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    Son of Beast Demolition (Kings Island)- • Dismantling of Son of ...
    Son of Beast Off-Ride (Sean Flaharty)- • Son Of Beast Off-Ride ...
    Background Music
    Track: Suspense Scary Music
    Music composed and recorded by Oak Studios
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ความคิดเห็น • 406

  • @CanobieCoaster
    @CanobieCoaster  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'd like to note that this review was filmed after my 2020 rides. My rides that have taken place since have been much smoother and enjoyable.

  • @NecroVane
    @NecroVane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I visit this park 2-3 times a year... literally NEVER had a rough ride, ever. In fact this is generally way smoother than the other invert in ohio, raptor at cedar point. Never even heard of this being a rough coaster from anyone i know. Very weird hearing that others have had consistent rough rides and rate it so low.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it's train related.

    • @marvffin1677
      @marvffin1677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey ride the beast LOL
      And youll find out what “rough” on a coaster means

    • @marvffin1677
      @marvffin1677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I almost hit my head on my cousin ridding it

    • @brucegibson1813
      @brucegibson1813 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marvffin1677 well of course, it’s an old wooden coaster dumbo

    • @marvffin1677
      @marvffin1677 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brucegibson1813 why are you so sensitive. Plus this comment was 1 ago legit move on

  • @JamesonThomas24
    @JamesonThomas24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love the frequency of your videos. I feel like there’s always something new to watch!

  • @ethanhcomposer
    @ethanhcomposer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is a very polarizing invert. Some people love it and some people hate it. It depends on who you are!

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It depends how its running to me.

    • @KIKoasterKid
      @KIKoasterKid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the ride but a little rattle

    • @kylebetz9684
      @kylebetz9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally I’ve ridden on every train and the rattle doesn’t bother me, so I’d say it depends on preference too

    • @theninthheart4736
      @theninthheart4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s because it’s more akin to one of their fliers or wingriders than their typical inverts. They tried to do something different

  • @Mattia_Genuardi
    @Mattia_Genuardi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Seeing some old footage of Son of Beast just made me wonder of what RMC could have done with such a massive structure...

    • @chachacharlieh6873
      @chachacharlieh6873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      The crappy RCCA structure would have collapsed on the first test run 😂

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It could have been an elite ride.

    • @lordmanshaft1112
      @lordmanshaft1112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Probably not much, considering many of SOB's problems stemmed directly from cost saving measures related to limiting the number of concrete footers in high stress areas. Reusing footers is where RMC makeovers save millions. With RMC Ibox coasters featuring lots of negative Gs which = tension on the foundation, that limitation would probably be even more apparent

    • @quentk8886
      @quentk8886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      RMC sob would be great, but the structure kinda was the cause of all of SOB’s problems

  • @nickbaldwin8189
    @nickbaldwin8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is actually my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu. I can't say i've had a bad run on it.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even a smooth ride is a mid tier invert for me.

  • @SuperHITMAN9000
    @SuperHITMAN9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I grew up riding mean streak....so riding Banshee was butter smooth for me lol...I don't understand what rattle or shakiness people are talking about....I rode at probably 4x so far and it's a great coaster

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A lot is smoother than Mean Streak.

    • @jamessobczak5726
      @jamessobczak5726 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Banshee is without a doubt starting to get rough. It was glass smooth at first. Ultimately the trains are directly at fault and not the track

  • @MD-bk8uy
    @MD-bk8uy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Banshee is great, especially in the front row. The first drop in the back row is one of my favorite first drops! I never notice the B&M rattle on Banshee.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some trains are fine.

    • @theninthheart4736
      @theninthheart4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The first drop in the back left is the greatest drop on an inverted coaster period. You actually get a stomach drop

    • @frannie1815
      @frannie1815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have never had a rough ride on Banshee. This is my first year riding it. I’ve ridden it in the front, back, middle, I’ve ridden on all the trains. I haven’t felt anything.

    • @joshlynch5676
      @joshlynch5676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frannie1815 this is just bitching to bitch lol

    • @davidvironet6344
      @davidvironet6344 ปีที่แล้ว

      @theninthheart4736 nothing like looking at the back on someone's head what an experience.

  • @jking340
    @jking340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hahaha I literally posted my new video 2 1/2 hours ago called “This is Why Banshee is the Best B&M Invert.” I love this ride! The rattle isn’t bad at all.

    • @noahkessler5500
      @noahkessler5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr I never had a problem with this ride

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smooth rides on Banshee makes it a mid tier invert.

    • @jking340
      @jking340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CanobieCoaster I just think that with no pre-drop, so many massive inversions, and that insane in-line twist, it’s so much more unique and exhilarating compared to other inverts.

    • @noahkessler5500
      @noahkessler5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster I think I only rode it in the smooth blue train bc I had great
      rides on it. My mom rode after me and thought it was rough so that could be it.

  • @nateharrah3517
    @nateharrah3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting, I always love seeing just how different everyone’s opinions are of this roller coaster. I think it’s an amazing ride and super fun, but I can see if some people are more into non stop intensity it wouldn’t be everyone’s favorite

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't mind rides that aren't super forceful. When comfort becomes an issue, I take issue.

  • @everyday_maycia
    @everyday_maycia 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rode Banshee for the first time wednesday before the incident occurred. I absolutely loved it, I didn’t experience a rattle, I rode on the teal train.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad it was running smooth and it was tragic what happened.

    • @everyday_maycia
      @everyday_maycia 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CanobieCoaster it was unbelievable that i had rode it before it shut down for a couple days

  • @luralandoll6609
    @luralandoll6609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rode Banshee today at season pass holder preview day. Even rode the teal train. No rattle, no chatter. It was my daughter's first time on it and she said it was so smooth!

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It ran much better in 2021 onwards.

  • @Fazcoasters
    @Fazcoasters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the roughness is because of the ground, KI always had a problem with B&M rattles because apparently, the ground isn't stiff enough, I think this same issue also contributed to Son of Beast's nasty ride.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has this been confirmed the ground is different in some way?

    • @Fazcoasters
      @Fazcoasters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CanobieCoaster I think Coaster Studios mentioned it in his Orion review. He gave a better explanation than I did

  • @nonononononononononononononope
    @nonononononononononononononope ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was at the TPR Banshee Bash the year this opened. Even that early in it’s life, the bash was dominated with conversations of how bad a brand new invert was rattling. Damn shame too, layout it great.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree the layout is awesome. It ran smoother for me in 2021 than 2020.

  • @UofLFan1224
    @UofLFan1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the problem is Kings Island's ground. All the the B&M's there have issues with a rattle. It's strange for sure

    • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
      @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say that is EXACTLY the issue! I've done commercial construction in Mason, and every site I've been on in Mason has terrible ground. In fact I heard one guy tell me on one of his sites they had to sink pilings into the ground to stabilize the structure due to how soft/unstable the ground is. But then again Im sure this isn't an issue just isolated to Mason. Mt. Adams in Cincinnati constantly has landslides.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orion tracked smoothly to me.

    • @theninthheart4736
      @theninthheart4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CanobieCoaster it’s brand new

    • @theninthheart4736
      @theninthheart4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rattle on diamondback is absolutely comical

    • @mithramusic5909
      @mithramusic5909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster i only got one ride on Orion so, grain of salt, but i think it's going to rattle too, and pretty quick. It didn't feel as glass smooth as Leviathan to me and i rode it in its first month.

  • @bandmfanboy
    @bandmfanboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I thought the rattle might have been because of the dirt at KI. I've heard some that have said that Orion has a slight rattle when it's literally brand new. I also have heard of Diamondback's rattle also, so I don't think the trains are the biggest problem.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orion was smooth for me last year.

  • @AirtimeProductions
    @AirtimeProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still have yet to ride a rough B&M! I think a lot of people like to complain about B&M’s coasters having roughness hence why B&M get hate- which is why I think they are underrated! Likewise this makes me think Banshee is another example of this...
    (I’ve ridden X-Flight which people claim to be bouncy yet it’s butter smooth)

  • @RemixedVoice
    @RemixedVoice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love Banshee. I especially think the pretzel knot is so cool; in an industry that always uses the same cookie cutter loops and corkscrews and cobra rolls ad nauseam! I haven't ridden Banshee since 2015 though, so it's a shame to hear about the rattle trains.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My smooth ride in 2020 was great but most beat me up.

  • @aninterestingpenguin9374
    @aninterestingpenguin9374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really don’t think the rattle on Banshee is nearly as bad as some people claim it to be. The pretzel element is also a lot more forceful than I think you gave it credit for.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It depends on the day and train.

    • @nycama
      @nycama ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CanobieCoaster nonsense

  • @ralelunar
    @ralelunar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite coaster, Nitro, is a victim of the B&M rattle 😔 One day, I'd like Six Flags to retrack it

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only shaky part for me with Nitro is the first drop pullout.

  • @jaycillisfacial7391
    @jaycillisfacial7391 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to consider this ride having a teeny little rattle, like in comparison to diamondbacks rattle that you can hardly notice. I had this same opinion for a while, and I even considered banshee better than Orion. Then, in 2023, I rode it a couple times, and it was ROUGH. I don’t know if I got bad rides mixed with bad luck, but I eventually started passing opportunities to ride it. Now I genuinely prefer invertigo over banshee. I can’t wait to get back to kings island this year and see if it’s smoother again, because I used to love banshee so much.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My 2021 rides (after this was made) were mostly smooth, but that's a shame you got bad rides.

  • @zachboothe6405
    @zachboothe6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The vest restraints really staple you to the seat and you feel every imperfection of the coaster. It has been running very well this year, signed a long time local.

  • @denone5327
    @denone5327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t dislike Banshee, but I prefer the older, snappier B&Ms like Raptor or Kumba. Sometimes Banshee’s positive forces are too much for me and in the middle of the pretzel knot, I’m ready for the ride to be over. I rode it twice on opening day 2021 and it wasn’t as rough as it had been in 2020.

  • @nickcube4
    @nickcube4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rode banshee in October 2019 and it was perfectly smooth. I wonder if I lucked out with the train or if they got all the trains running smooth that fall. I hope it's not rough next time I ride.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got some bad rides in 2019 and 2020, but got a few good ones too

  • @OklahomaCoasterFan
    @OklahomaCoasterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't find Banshee to be smooth but I also didn't think the rattle was terrible. I thought Diamondback's rattle was worse. The rattle is enough to knock Banshee down to my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu. Banshee has my favorite layout for an invert, but that's just my preference. I know not everyone would agree.
    I also love the vest restraints. I have had many issues with headbanging on B&M inverts in the past, so they were one-and-dones for me back then, except Montu. I have since gotten better at avoiding headbanging with B&Ms hard OTSR, so I can enjoy the others now as well, but it took some practice.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't mind the rattle on Diamondback since it's only in a few valleys for a second. Banshee in a bad train rattles for a large chunk of the ride.

  • @DuecePiece
    @DuecePiece 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've never felt any rattle on a B&M except a little while going down Diamondbacks first drop- and it's never bothered me or taken away from the experience at all. I love Banshee, not familiar with the rattle you mention- hope you get better rides on it next time!

  • @pixelythegamer3260
    @pixelythegamer3260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which New England woodies would you rank worst to best
    Wildcat
    Yankee cannonball
    Thunderbolt
    Excalibur
    Bolder dash
    Wooden warrior
    And roar o Sorus

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best is Boulder Dash. Followed by Roar-O-Saurus, Wooden Warrior, Excalibur, Yankee Cannonball, Thunderbolt, and Wildcat (distant last).

  • @mythicgamingmk1105
    @mythicgamingmk1105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The B&M’s at Kings Island are the ones with the rattle but every other B&M does not have a rattle and if they ever did it might be the train wheels that might need to be replaced but most B&M’s are very smooth

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree most B&Ms are very smooth.

  • @urbex_coasters
    @urbex_coasters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always found Banshee a little rough. I found it rougher in 2016 than 2017 so I think the theory that it has to do with the trains is likely correct, although I'll also mention the possability of it being the ground it's built on. Son of Beast was built on the same ground so that's the constant.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got good rides this year.

    • @urbex_coasters
      @urbex_coasters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CanobieCoaster The inconsistancy probably has to do with the trains and how they're rebuilt in the offseason (as we know they are). The constant rattle is probably related to the ground the coaster sits on, and that same ground probably contributed to the roughness on Son of Beast too. It's nothing that makes it unridable but let's say I could not do multiple-ride ERT on Banshee without taking 15 minutes between rides.

  • @badlycroppedalanschilke9531
    @badlycroppedalanschilke9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you read it this year? I dont know what they did, but although i might have agreed with you last year, this year the few rides i got on it were really smooth! It still has a slight rattle but i barely noticed it.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I plan to go back to Kings Island later this year so I hope it runs better!

  • @JoshB333
    @JoshB333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was the first coaster I followed the construction of.. checking those livestreams everyday ☺️

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many trains did you find to have a shaky rattle between the purple one, the teal one, and the blue one?

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ride was running smoother in 2021. I think it's train dependent.

  • @mithramusic5909
    @mithramusic5909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I can't even re-ride this

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's frustrating since some trains are fine.

    • @marvffin1677
      @marvffin1677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont feel rattles i feel like im missing somthing or not normal

  • @Bigbluespoon
    @Bigbluespoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I heard about banshee and Diamondback both have a rattle. Also thanks your channel is helping me update my list of things to ride and where to sit

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diamondback shakes at the base of the drop but that doesn't ruin the ride.

    • @Bigbluespoon
      @Bigbluespoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster I’m not saying it does just saying what I heard

  • @kaboomer5727
    @kaboomer5727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Banshee is my fourth favorite coaster of all time. I love it so much.

  • @Austin_Wells
    @Austin_Wells 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this thing, but I too had one notably rough ride in the back row. I usually prefer the back due to the airtime you get being yanked over the main drop. What coaster forum is the most up-to-date/ would you recommend regarding KI to find out which train is janky? Will be visiting soon

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is there a season passholder group on Facebook? Those have helped me recently for different parks.

    • @Austin_Wells
      @Austin_Wells 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster I'm sure there is. Unless they got banned for disagreeing with Zuckerberg's favorite loop shape. FYI: it's "the lonely teardrop." Thanks again, CC!

  • @Thuggysmurf
    @Thuggysmurf ปีที่แล้ว

    I've ridden Banshee a lot since this video (most recently in August 2022) and haven't noticed a rattle. Maybe they fixed it? This is my favorite U.S. B&M Invert, ahead of Montu, Afterburn, and Talon. Banshee even cracks my top 20 coasters overall. Love the experience it provides: 3 trains, friendly staff, quick dispatches, long ride, awesome first drop, nice scenery, and I can marathon it vs. I'm usually done after 2 rides on other B&M inverts.
    The trains on Banshee feel well designed - like B&M learned from past mistakes and listened to feedback. Usually if you sit anywhere but the front row on a B&M invert, your view is the support of the seat in front of you - not ideal, so the best seat by far is always the front row. But Banshee trains have 2 supports per row instead of 4, so you get a decent view in any row. I still prefer the front row on Banshee, but barely, as the back row is more intense but without the substantial "view" penalty like on other B&M inverts.
    My only complaint with Banshee is they still have a bunch of unused Son of Beast land. Add a B&M Wing in there Kings Island!

  • @KingWill04
    @KingWill04 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was just at kings island this past Labor Day and I thought banshee is probably the most intense invert I’ve ridden and that includes a pretty solid list. I loved it. Very smooth ride

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've heard it's running smooth this year.

  • @jardins43
    @jardins43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!!! My favorite B&M invert.

  • @Joypyf
    @Joypyf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rattle can be quite bad 😕 Is the service looking road behind Banshee/Son of Beast where the animal section was in the 70s?

  • @suttonthebakervlogs6460
    @suttonthebakervlogs6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 3rd seat in each row is butter smooth. Sit there, and it’s fantastic.

  • @coasternerd6978
    @coasternerd6978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here’s a funny story. I met a 6/8 coaster nerd at Kings Island one time and he was measured and was inches above the 6/6 limit but the op let him ride. He still made him take his shoes off probably to be extra safe. Unfortunately after getting off he couldn’t find his shoes but he saw a short person walking down the ramp with them. He confronted him and the thief jumped at his height, dropped the shoes, and ran. He was later thrown out. In my opinion if you see shoes that large lying around don’t steal them cause the owner likely isn’t a person you want to mess with.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว

      I never thought someone would try to steal shoes.

    • @coasternerd6978
      @coasternerd6978 ปีที่แล้ว

      I texted a bunch of people about it and they all said the same thing.

  • @shadycharacter94
    @shadycharacter94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't see this topping Montu for me when I get to ride in June, but damn is that a top 5 color scheme.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Montu is one of the best inverts.

  • @mhtube01
    @mhtube01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really surprised at the mixed attention Banshee gets. I rode it twice on my first ever visit to Kings Island in June 2019 and I loved it. My wife and I agreed it was the best invert either of us had ever ridden. Now I'm not saying I'm the most seasoned in riding B&M inverts but I've ridden a decent amount and I found Banshee tons of fun and smooth. I vaguely remember their being a slight rattle in some sections. I generally prefer wooden coasters to steel coasters though so I'm not going to complain about some steel coasters being more dynamic. I actually enjoyed Vortex and was sad to hear they were removing it.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really seems to be train related.

  • @SlimFury
    @SlimFury 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Banshee is my number 1 B&M Invert, and my number 8 overall. I love high intensity and Banshee delivers. My only issue is the vest restraints, but not much as i just move around as needed.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It rode better for me in 2021.

  • @EnoughRhetoric
    @EnoughRhetoric 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I normally ride inverts once for tge credit then move on as they’re not my cup of tea. But Banahee really wowed me when I finally got to ride it in 2022. It was butter smooth in the back row but also, that layout was great! Definitely the only invert I’d like to revisit.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It rode better in my rides after I made this review.

  • @bonjernoorr
    @bonjernoorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed similar shaking on Raptor that was really loud and made for a horrible ride. However, it was gone on my next visit. I assumed it had something to do with wheels that needed to be changed out, which they do several times a season. Maybe KI doesn't change the wheels quite as often as CP?

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Raptor has always been smooth for me.

  • @isaactierney5132
    @isaactierney5132 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed Banshee over Raptor. I’ve only ever had 1 ride that rattled to the point where I got a headache. Every other time has been very smooth, or had a slight vibration, but nothing bad. It’s one of my favorite B&M coasters!

  • @lawnboy8461
    @lawnboy8461 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was at Kings Island 2 months ago and I rode Banshee 4 times my first 3 rides were in the purple train and it seemed very smooth, but when I took my forth ride I was in the blue train and it seemed a little rough but other than that Banshee is my favorite roller coaster at Kings Island next to Orion and Diamondback.

  • @justiceleaguebattleformetr9239
    @justiceleaguebattleformetr9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I probably had the worst experience on this ride. I only got 1 ride in 2020, and I don’t remember which train it was. I do know that I was stuck with row 5 since the worker didn’t accept my request for the front. As a result, it’s my 2nd worst coaster I’ve ever ridden.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least the vests prevent headbanging.

    • @justiceleaguebattleformetr9239
      @justiceleaguebattleformetr9239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CanobieCoaster true, but it still wasn’t a good experience by any means. I desperately need the front row of the blue train to get a better experience

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are the differences between those three colors, purple, teal, and blue?

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ride was running smoother in 2021. I think it's train dependent.

  • @antonytsai6611
    @antonytsai6611 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the inversions had more whip it seems like b and m is using different heart lining? Seems a bit less whipping compared to other inverts

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but the Gs in the valleys are strong still.

  • @HoliestDoughnut
    @HoliestDoughnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Banshee's rattle is polarizing. When I wrote it it wasn't noticeable whatsoever, In fact I'd call banshee butter smooth. However, this was a few years ago.
    The size of banshee compared to other inverts is what makes it special to me. The 150-ft drop when paired with the 209-ft high difference makes this feel almost like a hyper inverting coaster. Every element takes ages to get through because its such a huge ride.

  • @doncasey732
    @doncasey732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Row 2 this past Sunday was extremely smooth.

    • @doncasey732
      @doncasey732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tyler Lindgren Blue

    • @doncasey732
      @doncasey732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tyler Lindgren I've tried narrowing it down by train but the "rattle" is so inconsistent that I think it has more to do with the weight distribution among the length of the train. Rows 4 and 5 accommodate bigger riders and I believe it's for a reason. Ops should direct larger riders to those rows if possible. Not an engineer or anything just a theory of mine.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope it rides better when I go back.

  • @46lespaul
    @46lespaul 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive riden every train just this summer alone and have never felt a rattle in fact its become a family favorite coaster. But thats the cool thing bout coasters each persons experience can be different

  • @zacg_
    @zacg_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious about your thoughts on Banshee vs Alpengeist. I find that I absolutely love Alpengeist in the front row but everywhere else I really don't like it. I don't find the difference to be quite as dramatic with Banshee between rows but I think they have some similar advantages and disadvantages overall.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alpengeist's first half is super intense and I find it's smoother more consistently.

  • @andrewthomas9968
    @andrewthomas9968 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just rode this yesterday. It was smoother than Diamond back in my opinion. We sat in the back on both

  • @maxhagenauer24
    @maxhagenauer24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iv ridden Banshee about 4 years ago and 7 months ago. Banshee was very smooth the first time I rode it but it sure had that rattle the second time. That B&M rattle doesn't bother me that much though. I remember this ride being pretty intense and overall, this ride imo is just so underated. It's not whippy like the other inverts on the inversions but the drop in the back has good whip. But this ride isn't like the other B&M Inverts, instead of whippy inversions, they are hangtime filled. And that uniqueness is just so different but so good. Having a streched out layout with 7 inversions and still strong positive Gs and ending it with an amazing hangtime filled in-line twist, this ride is just so different and such a creative layout.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't mind a shake here and there, but Banshee's rattle is worse in a bad train.

  • @wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037
    @wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually love inverts, especially the 7 inversion monsters, but this ride is a bit much for me. The valleys are super forceful and the inversions are very drawn out, these combined with the rattle make me pretty dizzy by the end. And it’s not helped by the vest restraints which really don’t belong on inverted coasters.

  • @karenburt8268
    @karenburt8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe I should try other seats to feel the rattle. I'm always in the front. Idk its tied for my favorite ride. I just don't like the tight feeling after the ride waiting to un load.

  • @mateoalvira3514
    @mateoalvira3514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many trains are there on Banshee? Which colors are all the trains?

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3, purple, teal, blue.

  • @TheSourNinja
    @TheSourNinja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For whatever reason, I really feel like kings island is such a polarizing park and people judge the rides more because of that. In no way is banshee rough. Is it smooth? Of course not, but rough? No. The worst invert? Absolutely not. I respect the opinions of others, I just don’t agree at all and think people really judge kings island over harshly.
    Personally, I have ridden 3 inverts, Banshee, Afterburn at Carowinds and Raptor. I consider Banshee to be the best just barely over raptor and substantially over Afterburn.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Banshee when smooth is a mid tier invert.

    • @mithramusic5909
      @mithramusic5909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's rough to me. I wouldn't discount people's opinion just because the park is polarizing. I'll genuinely get a headache if i ride it more than once. And it's not some kind of bias against the park because Diamondback doesn't have that problem and it's a great ride. Mystic Timbers is my favorite woodie I've ever ridden. But Banshee is just a rough ride

  • @thenuccichannel5742
    @thenuccichannel5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rerode it last weekend and there was a vibration but it didnt ruin the ride but i felt like it kinda lacked intensity outside of 2 moments

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It ran smoothly for me this year.

  • @ohmygaga89
    @ohmygaga89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to kings island yesterday. The rattle was loud but I honestly thought it went well with the theme. Because it does kind of sound like a scream

  • @invertedthrills144
    @invertedthrills144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 2019 I did not like this coaster whatsoever which was unfortunate because I've always loved loved loved b&m inverts. However, I got the chance to reride this a few weeks ago and now it's my #25 overall and I absolutely love it

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It ran great for me this year.

  • @ZPierce767676
    @ZPierce767676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man Banshee disappointed this weekend. Such a bad rattle this year.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That stinks it's not riding well this year.

  • @First-Drop-Studios
    @First-Drop-Studios 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t mind the roughness on banshee, but my thighs and the surrounding areas were completely crushed. It completely ruined the ride and that’s honestly really sad, because the layout is one of the best on any invert. Especially when the crew was in no rush for checking restraints and I was stuck on the brakes for 3-4 minutes, practically suffocating.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry to hear that.

  • @gilbertceballos8674
    @gilbertceballos8674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my favorite invert I've ridden 😂
    The drop is great. I didn't find it rough but there was a slight rattle.
    My rating:
    1. Banshee
    2. Montu
    3. Top gun at carrowinds???
    4. Alpengeist
    5. Silver bullet
    6. Batman clone at sfmm
    7. Batman clone fiesta texas
    8. Batman clone seaworld san antonio
    🙂
    Raptor was closed during my 3 days last August:(

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It rode much better on my 2021 rides thankfully.

  • @timhunter1214
    @timhunter1214 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Y'all are DRAMA about the "rattle". You make it sound like a Vacoma SLC.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My rides since I have made this review have all been pleasant.

  • @leannafarmer1759
    @leannafarmer1759 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best ride at kings island hands down. I have vertigo and I have ride this several different times and it has no affect on it at all. Wooden coasters seem to have a lot worse affect on it. If given a choice between one coaster to ride through out the day this would be it. Also detected no rattle at all

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว

      The bad rattle I described in 2020 was not present in 2021 thankfully.

  • @roxynano
    @roxynano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seem to have great luck with Banshee as it is in my top 5 favorite roller coasters. The last ride I had on it was in 2019 and I had a great time on it!
    I’m nervous heading back as I don’t want Banshee to break my heart.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say to try multiple trains if needed.

    • @roxynano
      @roxynano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster I remember riding many different trains like the purple, teal, and blue and had no issues in 2019.
      And I (beeping) hate B&M rattles especially on Rougarou. (That’s a B&M shaker) Because of that shake, Rougarou is my least favorite coaster period. (Worst than any Vekoma I’ve ridden)
      It would break my heart if I re ride one of my favorite coasters then it turns into one of my worst coasters.

  • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
    @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The restraints are the biggest killer for me. Love Banshee, but I absolutely can not stand those stupid vest restrains!

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The vest restraints are fine to me. It's how it tracks.

  • @mikeham73
    @mikeham73 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I rode it twice yesterday and it felt like it was going to rattle itself apart. Unsurprisingly it was a walk-on all day. Cedar Fair needs to fix it because it didn’t use to be this way.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems so hit or miss.

  • @fireworks990
    @fireworks990 ปีที่แล้ว

    The harness is very comfortable, no head banging or ear banging like Raptor.

  • @mitchellries256
    @mitchellries256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somehow this ride lost to Flying Turns at Knoebels for best new 2014 ride. But if that ride wasn't in the poll, which coaster do you think would've won? This or Goliath at Six Flags Great America?

  • @coasterhockygamingboy9549
    @coasterhockygamingboy9549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:04 “It always seems strange that the park didn’t have a full circut inverted coaster” *shows and off ride shoot of The Bat*

    • @nickcube4
      @nickcube4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not an inverted coaster, it is a suspended coaster.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I view that one as suspended. I agree it hangs below the track.

    • @sakerocket
      @sakerocket 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The gp can't tell the difference tho. Just because you view it as this or that as an enthusiast that runs a channel on coasters.... Doesn't mean they were missing this before. ;) Good vid tho

  • @parkersparkreviews2394
    @parkersparkreviews2394 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kings Island isn’t far from my house and I ride Banshee all the time. The rattle never bothered me much and it always takes me by surprise when people call it rough. Regardless, it’s still my least favorite invert because the elements are too drawn out to do much for me. I prefer smaller, more compact inverts for the whippy and feet ripping inversions.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2020 was the worst year for it. It was fine in 2021 when I rerode it.

  • @cfrankbii9613
    @cfrankbii9613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rattle has never bothered me. I'm not sure when that became such a thing for enthusiasts, but to each his/her own. Rough, as in headbanging, is a different story lol. My experience on Banshee in 2019 wasn't bad at all, but it just didnt do anything for me. The first drop was great though. I guess I prefer the 90s B&M inverts. They have an intensity that the newer ones don't imo.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the layout, but some trains seem to rattle very badly.

    • @OklahomaCoasterFan
      @OklahomaCoasterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      B&M rattles can give bad headaches to some people. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it unfortunately does to me. That headache is the worst feeling to have for me. Rough woodies jackhammering don't cause me pain, but a strong B&M rattle does. I wish it didn't.

  • @schumi246
    @schumi246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, it’s the closest thing to a inverted hyper coaster with the difference in the highest and lowest points??

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alpengeist is close on height alone.

  • @Harrys.Truman-fanpage
    @Harrys.Truman-fanpage หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate being a coaster enthusiast with motion - sensitivity, the rides layout is amazing but I wish B&M fixed the rattle on these things

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was better on my rides after this was filmed.

  • @EastCoasters
    @EastCoasters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3/4 of of the time this thing just doesn’t do it for me! Dunno why, It’s very temperamental but beautiful to look at.🤌🏽

  • @Legendarygaming-wu5pc
    @Legendarygaming-wu5pc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately I had a real rough ride yeah banshee is rough but my ride was much rougher then you would think. It was rough like the Boss at Six Flags st louis! I find the Batman clones to be better then Banshee

  • @ThrillsofColdplay
    @ThrillsofColdplay 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how this would be if it was built in the 90’s it would definitely be whippy

  • @RobertoBollijr
    @RobertoBollijr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This whole comment section is made up of angry KI fanboys lol. I've been going to KI for 5 years now, and every single time I get at least one unimaginably rough ride on banshee. As in, shaking my teeth out of my skull rough. I'm glad you have the courage to voice your honest opinion, thoosies just love KI/CP way too much.

    • @RobertoBollijr
      @RobertoBollijr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My home park is Kentucky Kingdom, and I can say with 100% confidence that apart from the thigh crushing, T3 was smoother than Banshee. And it's not even close.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got better rides in 2021, but the ones in 2020 were not ideal.

  • @jackknueve4645
    @jackknueve4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rode the teal train in the back this year and it was smooth, whereas last year it was awful. I think they must’ve done something over the off-season

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really shows how important the trains and when you ride Banshee is.

    • @jackknueve4645
      @jackknueve4645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster oh yeah last year when I rode the teal train I would’ve ranked it below Invertigo, it was that bad

  • @indynugs
    @indynugs ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Banshee, don’t understand the hate some enthusiasts throw at it. Other than most so-called coaster enthusiasts hyper analyze every inch of a coaster and criticize the tiniest little bump, shake, or shimmy. Just sit back and enjoy the ride and be happy parks keep building these awesome machines.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 2020 rides were brutal, but I liked it again in 2021.

  • @maybeifyoustannedloona
    @maybeifyoustannedloona 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    waits for banshee are always long the days i go. then again, i normally go at the start of the season.

  • @marcussheen
    @marcussheen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, 6. Such a shame about the rattle though because the layout is so original. I hear a lot of people talk about the 'B&M rattle', but the only time I experienced it was on Black Mamba. It used to be one of my favourites, but one year it was totally unbearable, I came off seeing stars.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Banshee is particularly frustrating since it varies so much by train.

  • @austinwoods5858
    @austinwoods5858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The shaking and tight vest restraints ruined it for me. Definitely my least favorite invert

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has a lot of potential if smooth.

  • @JacobB451
    @JacobB451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The restraints absolutely ruin it for me. Those vests don't give off the same intensity as a normal OTSR would. It's a shame, Banshee could have been world class.

  • @wharfier
    @wharfier ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't find it rough at all. It's actually my favorite inverted coaster. Actually my favorite all around. To me the "roughest" B&M is Incredible Hulk at Univerals Islands of Adventure. And that's after the rebuild.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Banshee ran smooth for me in 2021 thankfully.

  • @kartert.jefferson6759
    @kartert.jefferson6759 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to change out the wheels of the trains. That’s probably why the trains got a little rattle.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would not be surprised if that is an issue.

  • @ArthurTerry-we1uv
    @ArthurTerry-we1uv หลายเดือนก่อน

    From outside the park the size of this coaster is intimidating wait till you go there it's massive like alpengeist at Busch gardens

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has quite the presence.

  • @MrCrash-hz8xy
    @MrCrash-hz8xy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This situation reminds me of steel phantom. Some loved it and some hated it.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except that was an issue with the profiling rather than specific trains.

  • @alantrotter2077
    @alantrotter2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our opinions are very similar with Banshee. My 2020 ride on Banshee wasn't good. It was in the back row and it jack hammered all over the place. Pre 2020, I really enjoyed Banshee and it was my second favorite B&M invert, but if it keeps riding this way it will be my least favorite in the US.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's frustrating because the layout is so good.

    • @alantrotter2077
      @alantrotter2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanobieCoaster The drop is incredible and the I love the last inversion. I agree. I will be watching which train I get more closely if I go in 2021, which looks like it will be the case in late August.

  • @WapoStudios
    @WapoStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No rattle on Banshee will compare to the car crash that was Raptor in 2020. To this day it’s the only coaster that has made me sit down for awhile after one ride. Truly awful.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yikes! It was smooth for me in 2019.

    • @OklahomaCoasterFan
      @OklahomaCoasterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had smooth rides and horribly rough, headbanging rides on Raptor.

  • @jrax1713
    @jrax1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shameless ride and age very well but honestly I’d probably have it in mid tier even if it was completely smooth because it just doesn’t look like it has the whip or the forces of older inverts

  • @RedHitMarker1
    @RedHitMarker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    banshee made me grey out twice, almost thrice. This thing is a powerhouse, I'm convinced if that pretzel knot was just a little bit faster or tighter, I would've blacked out.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ride definitely has good forces and it ran smoothly last year.

  • @daniev6
    @daniev6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never thought Banshee was rough. But very forceless.

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find it moderately forceful and love the layout.

  • @amareleggette35
    @amareleggette35 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i did not have a bad ride when i went earlier this month i love the back row 8 anyday

    • @CanobieCoaster
      @CanobieCoaster  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!