Try This formation SS. CF SS Cm. Cm. CM LWM. RWM CB CB On possession only Ss. Ss. Ss Cm cm cm LB CB CB RB When you do not have the ball only. Genger press False 9 (No tiki taka option) Because players do not make runs into open space wich destroys your goal opportunity. Put Center Backs a bit far from each other to cover Right and left wing center backs. Use level 7 or 8 backup Possession wide Pressure agressive and wide. Level 6 compactness Maintain formation Congrats now You got yourself the best attacking team in the world. You are welcome.
@@AV-bm9ls SS. CF SS(falso9) MC. MC. MC LWM. RWM CB CB Cuando en possesion Ss. Ss. Ss CM CM MD LB CB. CB. RB Cuando no tienes la pelota Genger press(presion alta) Falso 9 (No utilises tiki taka) Los jugadores se reservan y no attacan los espacios detras de los defensas,lo que hace que tengas menos opciones parar filtrar balones. Pon los Defensas centrales lejos entre ellos mismos cuando tienes el control...esto permitira darle opciones a tu juego de possesion cuando los defensas laterales salgan a attacar. Utilisa Nivel 7 de ayuda Al apoyar los compañeros. Pression agressiva and y a lo estrecho Nivel 6 o 7 compacto cuando en modo defensivo. Utilisa la opcion(Mantener la formación) Utilisa la opción(pegado a la linea) Los jugadores se abriran mas y crearan mas espacios. Utilisa la opcion (centro campista cubre el defensa lateral) esta opción permitira de que si el lateral esta muy adelantado...uno de los centros pueden cubrir su posición cuando existe una perdida. Con este estilo...la mejor opción es utilisar las bandas para attacar y cambiar rapidamente de banda utilizando los medios o los defensas centrales de atras con objetivo de buscar el falso 9 y filtrarle pases para que pueda llegar a golear o assistir el de banda derecha o izquierda quien son los que meteran la mas parte de los goles de equipo. Formacion 2-2-3-1-2 en posesión Formación 4-3-3 en defensa.
@@timia.4812 yes because they can transform into ss who get behind the defence when the false nine creates space by running on one of the wings and having a defender pursue him wich will create space for them to enter into that space behind the defence and have an oportunity to score or make a pass
Watching playing with Barcelona is just a different level to how you play at the ML.. that first goal the passing game the football is second to no one on youtube. Keep up the good work mate 👍👌
In 2024 this is really useful for me because I was missing some things to start improving my PES 2024 xbox 360 thank you very much happy new year@@SpoonyPizzas
Actually the real Falso 9 has the wingers moving forward, but Guardiola's, almost always Dani Alves attacked, and it was rare for Abidal to attack, Abidal was a more defensive side, practically made a line with Piqué and Puyol to make a line of 3
This is already similar to how I Set-Up but I dont push up Alba and Semedo that high ul the Pitch in Possession, plus I have Pique and Lenglet Spread out a lil bit more, while busquets drop deep. Attacking False backs and Tiki Taka, later changed to Wing Rotation. You wanna be careful cause you get caught often with counter attacking teams (Man U, Liverpool, Man City) etc
I like the game, but I really feel it could be so much much much better. Like most of the problems I have are actually easy to fix, for example: the camera, the unnecessarily long animations, the frustrating passing mechanics.
Well well, gonna see if I can adjust my current tactics a bit based on that, cheers spoony Also, that pressing of real can be such a pain to play high possession against, damn
Hey Spoony, I like what you did on this video, but how you can make your wingers cut inside the area and the false 9 goes back to the middle of the field distracting the two CB and generates a hole in the defense? I guess you understand what I mean
False wingers & false 9 mate. The CB's won't come out unless they're man-marking (AI won't do this). Therefore you're usually left with no target for scoring. I would only play a False 9 when I have a CF & SS in the middle. Although it doesn't make much sense to play a False 9 as they won't get into the box and it's only applied when you have possession of the ball. You're probably best off using false wingers with a fluid formation for effectiveness.
Can this same formation be used with a counter-attacking strategy and a tight marked Messi? I've actually been struggling since my opponents realize that I heavily depend and use my Messi very well. If not, please tell me how I could actually go about it? Keep up the good work!
One question : when I choose multiple formation , my players change automatically position. How can I " block " the players in that position ? If I change from " in possession " -" out of possession they change position" , like Jordi alba in the midfield and messi as a defense player , for example. I want to mantain the right position of the players like in the video.
Hi dude, if you follow this guide step by step you'll fluid formations easier to manage by copy and pasting the base formation and making adjustments as seen in this video: th-cam.com/video/e1vbh1gYqNw/w-d-xo.html
Hi spoony, I have good news, I found after hours and hours of playing pes and making changes in my master league tactic, the most similar tactic like pep guardiola use in his best times at Barça, I dont have a video capture to record from my xbox, but I will try to record the best I can and I will share you a video with some moments of a game
Great video! Love playing with Barcelona, but often fall prey to high pressing opponents. A silly question though. How do I bring those three options of when in possession, out of possession, and kick-off? I play on a PC keyboard, and it takes a while to map the controls from a controller :) Cheers!
Hey dude, th-cam.com/video/e1vbh1gYqNw/w-d-xo.html - here is a tutorial mate. No idea how to replicate with keyboard controls as I'm on PS4 Pro. Sorry bro
Hi mate, double tap sprint and flick left stick in direction, to lift, ideally 45 degrees from the way the player is facing. Cheers. Check out my dribble tutorials 1 and 2, you'll find it in part 2 I think. Cheers
You need to use better the spaces into the middle zone when you are attacking on 3/4, barça doesnt works with long balls from the bands all time, thats a lottery, attaking using that too much the long ball from the bands is more typical of madrid
Hi Spoony! I'm looking forward to watching your long-awaited video "Best Tiki-Taka Style Gameplay". In your "Tiki-Taka Mastery Tutorial" [th-cam.com/video/DQbxv3rYeD4/w-d-xo.html] you suggested the following settings: ATTACKING INSTRUCTIONS Attacking Styles: Possession Game Build Up: Short-pass Attacking Area: Centre Positioning: Flexible Support Range: 3 DEFENSIVE INSTRUCTIONS Defensive Styles: Frontline Pressure Containment Area: Middle Pressuring: Aggressive Defensive Line: 8 Compactness: 2 ADVANCED INSTRUCTIONS: Hug the Touchline Tiki-Taka In this video - the other settings being the same as above - you suggest: Support Range: 2 Defensive Line: 10 Compactness: 10 Considering that the previous formation was far wider in attack, which settings do you think would be more suitable for the tiki-taka gameplay? Besides, given that we can only choose two among the Advanced Instructions in attack. Do you think it would be more suitable for Tiki-Taka to have [Tiki-Taka] and [False No. 9] or, for example, [Tiki-Taka] and [Attacking or False Full-Backs]?
@@SpoonyPizzas im a coach in real life my friend...no it is not...id explain why and how but i dont have time just know your wing backs must go on the midfield and not on the wide positions...they provide cover for iniesta and xavi when they push up taking up their positions because it leaves space when they attack...so Dani and Abidal used to cover those positions and Eto and Henry are false wingers.Still good formation for a guy who doesn't practice real life tactics.
Yes, but if you can keep the ball well (like moi - check some of my online games) and get shots off then you just need to know how to defend with few numbers on counter :)
I changed my master league formation to my own version of this last night...going to check this 1 out..good timing!
Try This formation
SS. CF
SS
Cm. Cm.
CM
LWM. RWM
CB CB
On possession only
Ss. Ss. Ss
Cm cm cm
LB CB CB RB
When you do not have the ball only.
Genger press
False 9
(No tiki taka option)
Because players do not make runs into open space wich destroys your goal opportunity.
Put Center Backs a bit far from each other to cover Right and left wing center backs.
Use level 7 or 8 backup
Possession wide
Pressure agressive and wide.
Level 6 compactness
Maintain formation
Congrats now You got yourself the best attacking team in the world. You are welcome.
En español?
@@AV-bm9ls
SS. CF
SS(falso9)
MC. MC.
MC
LWM. RWM
CB CB
Cuando en possesion
Ss. Ss. Ss
CM CM
MD
LB CB. CB. RB
Cuando no tienes la pelota
Genger press(presion alta)
Falso 9
(No utilises tiki taka)
Los jugadores se reservan y no attacan los espacios detras de los defensas,lo que hace que tengas menos opciones parar filtrar balones.
Pon los Defensas centrales lejos entre ellos mismos cuando tienes el control...esto permitira darle opciones a tu juego de possesion cuando los defensas laterales salgan a attacar.
Utilisa Nivel 7 de ayuda
Al apoyar los compañeros.
Pression agressiva and y a lo estrecho
Nivel 6 o 7 compacto cuando en modo defensivo.
Utilisa la opcion(Mantener la formación)
Utilisa la opción(pegado a la linea) Los jugadores se abriran mas y crearan mas espacios.
Utilisa la opcion (centro campista cubre el defensa lateral) esta opción permitira de que si el lateral esta muy adelantado...uno de los centros pueden cubrir su posición cuando existe una perdida.
Con este estilo...la mejor opción es utilisar las bandas para attacar y cambiar rapidamente de banda utilizando los medios o los defensas centrales de atras con objetivo de buscar el falso 9 y filtrarle pases para que pueda llegar a golear o assistir el de banda derecha o izquierda quien son los que meteran la mas parte de los goles de equipo.
Formacion 2-2-3-1-2 en posesión
Formación 4-3-3 en defensa.
@@timia.4812 yes because they can transform into ss who get behind the defence when the false nine creates space by running on one of the wings and having a defender pursue him wich will create space for them to enter into that space behind the defence and have an oportunity to score or make a pass
Should the lmf and rmf be under or above the midfield?
2 5 3 or a 2 3 2 3
Watching playing with Barcelona is just a different level to how you play at the ML.. that first goal the passing game the football is second to no one on youtube.
Keep up the good work mate 👍👌
Thanks dude
In 2024 this is really useful for me because I was missing some things to start improving my PES 2024 xbox 360 thank you very much happy new year@@SpoonyPizzas
Actually the real Falso 9 has the wingers moving forward, but Guardiola's, almost always Dani Alves attacked, and it was rare for Abidal to attack, Abidal was a more defensive side, practically made a line with Piqué and Puyol to make a line of 3
This is already similar to how I Set-Up but I dont push up Alba and Semedo that high ul the Pitch in Possession, plus I have Pique and Lenglet Spread out a lil bit more, while busquets drop deep. Attacking False backs and Tiki Taka, later changed to Wing Rotation.
You wanna be careful cause you get caught often with counter attacking teams (Man U, Liverpool, Man City) etc
That's Ramos @ 13:08 , he can do everything without getting a card ;)
Good game Spoony.
Haha mate, that was disgraceful. Glad I smashed them with Brugge :)
@@SpoonyPizzas can you do video about best 4k tv under 600 dollar
I like the game, but I really feel it could be so much much much better. Like most of the problems I have are actually easy to fix, for example: the camera, the unnecessarily long animations, the frustrating passing mechanics.
Well well, gonna see if I can adjust my current tactics a bit based on that, cheers spoony
Also, that pressing of real can be such a pain to play high possession against, damn
Great video mate! Bit odd that messi is 95 when he is CF and 94 for when he is SS
Messi at AMF is 96
@@TheRealRhymatic2048 95 I think now
Nice work there spoony although i will try this with 2 wingers.cheers🖒
What do you mean dont expect a win...oh my God, what did i search
Lmfao sorry my dude :) manager tactics don't replicate well into PES. See "best" tactics for tried and tested tactics that work :)
Ohh the video I wanted to see 💪💪💪spoony the beastt
Hey Spoony, I like what you did on this video, but how you can make your wingers cut inside the area and the false 9 goes back to the middle of the field distracting the two CB and generates a hole in the defense? I guess you understand what I mean
False wingers & false 9 mate. The CB's won't come out unless they're man-marking (AI won't do this). Therefore you're usually left with no target for scoring. I would only play a False 9 when I have a CF & SS in the middle. Although it doesn't make much sense to play a False 9 as they won't get into the box and it's only applied when you have possession of the ball. You're probably best off using false wingers with a fluid formation for effectiveness.
I looooooooove playing like that it’s not easy but it’s worth it
Why no attacking full back ? Gegen it takes lot of stamina.
If you play against a team that uses wide and long passes and a fast striker like werner you loose ...and ith a big score too
Can this same formation be used with a counter-attacking strategy and a tight marked Messi? I've actually been struggling since my opponents realize that I heavily depend and use my Messi very well. If not, please tell me how I could actually go about it? Keep up the good work!
Instablaster...
One question : when I choose multiple formation , my players change automatically position. How can I " block " the players in that position ? If I change from " in possession " -" out of possession they change position" , like Jordi alba in the midfield and messi as a defense player , for example. I want to mantain the right position of the players like in the video.
Hi dude, if you follow this guide step by step you'll fluid formations easier to manage by copy and pasting the base formation and making adjustments as seen in this video: th-cam.com/video/e1vbh1gYqNw/w-d-xo.html
Hi spoony, I have good news, I found after hours and hours of playing pes and making changes in my master league tactic, the most similar tactic like pep guardiola use in his best times at Barça, I dont have a video capture to record from my xbox, but I will try to record the best I can and I will share you a video with some moments of a game
Cheers dude that'll be cool. Thanks
Next video is real madrid on julen system or solari system
Nice 👍🏿....... will you make Video on corner kicks and how to score from corner kicks?
Will do mate. Cheers
Great video! Love playing with Barcelona, but often fall prey to high pressing opponents. A silly question though. How do I bring those three options of when in possession, out of possession, and kick-off? I play on a PC keyboard, and it takes a while to map the controls from a controller :) Cheers!
Hey dude, th-cam.com/video/e1vbh1gYqNw/w-d-xo.html - here is a tutorial mate. No idea how to replicate with keyboard controls as I'm on PS4 Pro. Sorry bro
@@SpoonyPizzas Thank you! I'll try to crack my head on this :D Keep 'em coming. As a new PES player from FIFA, I've learnt a LOT from your channel!
Am I blind? I might be because I don't see the 2-2-3-3 formation anywhere. Is it because the update to datapack 6? It was there before now not at all.
Hi mate, just move players around manually holding X on ps4 or A on Xbox. Unless it's my club?
@@SpoonyPizzas Nah, its Master League
@@SpoonyPizzas I'll give it a try and also it's on PC. Bit of a dilemma I have currently. I have an extra defender its 3-2-2-3
how do you do coutinho's move at 5:44?
move around with R2 and then speed burst (R1) in any direction and the ball will pop out like that
Hi mate, double tap sprint and flick left stick in direction, to lift, ideally 45 degrees from the way the player is facing. Cheers. Check out my dribble tutorials 1 and 2, you'll find it in part 2 I think. Cheers
@@SpoonyPizzas thanks mate hope you and your wife are doing well
Cheers bro :) we're good mate, thank you
Amazing tactics dude. The proper way the game should be played.
Think this could be useful on PES 20?
Real Madrid, counter attack, mourinho
=Fifa
By the time you reached 150 passes, 4 goals could have been scored.
Passes > goals
@@SpoonyPizzas that's probably why they give points for completing passes and not for scoring more goals than the opposition.
Yes can't wait to try this
You need to use better the spaces into the middle zone when you are attacking on 3/4, barça doesnt works with long balls from the bands all time, thats a lottery, attaking using that too much the long ball from the bands is more typical of madrid
Thanks dude for the advice mate
Good for attacking but not for defense, counter attack with longball everytime
Do you have solution Spoony? :(
What camera settings do u use?
Dynamic wide custom, zoom 0 height 1. Cheers bud
Does this still work for pes 2020
Best as always..tnx
Hi Spoony! I'm looking forward to watching your long-awaited video "Best Tiki-Taka Style Gameplay".
In your "Tiki-Taka Mastery Tutorial" [th-cam.com/video/DQbxv3rYeD4/w-d-xo.html] you suggested the following settings:
ATTACKING INSTRUCTIONS
Attacking Styles: Possession Game
Build Up: Short-pass
Attacking Area: Centre
Positioning: Flexible
Support Range: 3
DEFENSIVE INSTRUCTIONS
Defensive Styles: Frontline Pressure
Containment Area: Middle
Pressuring: Aggressive
Defensive Line: 8
Compactness: 2
ADVANCED INSTRUCTIONS:
Hug the Touchline
Tiki-Taka
In this video - the other settings being the same as above - you suggest:
Support Range: 2
Defensive Line: 10
Compactness: 10
Considering that the previous formation was far wider in attack, which settings do you think would be more suitable for the tiki-taka gameplay?
Besides, given that we can only choose two among the Advanced Instructions in attack. Do you think it would be more suitable for Tiki-Taka to have [Tiki-Taka] and [False No. 9] or, for example, [Tiki-Taka] and [Attacking or False Full-Backs]?
Guardiola’s Bayern in 4-1-4-1 for next vidéo please.
Cheers dude
That is not Barcelona tactics....
Yes it is.
@@SpoonyPizzas im a coach in real life my friend...no it is not...id explain why and how but i dont have time just know your wing backs must go on the midfield and not on the wide positions...they provide cover for iniesta and xavi when they push up taking up their positions because it leaves space when they attack...so Dani and Abidal used to cover those positions and Eto and Henry are false wingers.Still good formation for a guy who doesn't practice real life tactics.
We need more tactics in pes20
Definitely ;)
See the graphics
You sure about it?
Yup, check Tifo :)
its too vulnerable to counter attacks innit
Every formation has a weakness
Amazingg
Thx dude
Give me your GaneTag let's Play
In defense it was bad
Youre not strong enough in tiki taka and u are too force to go ahead
Fair enough mate :)
u r so easly to defeat
Oookay lol :)
First
What is your best formation to use in pvp? Cheers
Hi mate, type into TH-cam, Spoony pes2019 best online formation. Should pop up ;)
@@SpoonyPizzas thanks, already seen it. Did you used it against human player? Seems easy to counter.
Yes, but if you can keep the ball well (like moi - check some of my online games) and get shots off then you just need to know how to defend with few numbers on counter :)