The #1 reason why I believe in Purgatory is because nothing unclean can enter Heaven... so if you die and aren't completely like Jesus, thank GOD for Purgatory, because without that, we would go to hell because none of us are ever going to be like Jesus. Protestants think they can do evil crap and then repent and die and go straight to Heaven; but you died in a certain venial sinful state, you can go to Heaven, but you have stains on your white garments... you gotta get cleaned up, purge those filth left on your soul.
The #1 reason why I believe in Purgatory is because nothing unclean can enter Heaven.. That's true nothing unclean will be in heaven , so what makes you clean? . so if you die and aren't completely like Jesus, thank GOD for Purgatory, because without that, we would go to hell because none of us are ever going to be like Jesus. This is where you go off track. You will never be completely like Jesus but He has already cleaned you up thoroughly the moment you repented and asked forgiveness of your sins. You have eternal life and your salvation is assured the moment that you repent and follow Jesus The Holy Spirit places His seal on the believer and never takes it away for any sin , Jesus dwells in your heart and you become more like Jesus as you yield to Him. All your sins are forgiven and it is Jesus and only Jesus who atones for all of your sins . Protestants think they can do evil crap and then repent and die and go straight to Heaven; Where on earth do you get this giant LIE from? That is so ignorant to claim. Protestants are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and they read God's written word the bible . The bible is set out as an example of what a believer is to do. Absolutely nowhere does it ever say you repent and live in the world . Please do not claim false concepts because someone told you something! but you died in a certain venial sinful state, you can go to Heaven, but you have stains on your white garments. A false statement made by individuals that do not accept the complete sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for all of your sins which includes nailing the punishment of those sins to the cross as well Coll 2:9-15 .. you gotta get cleaned up, You need to accept what Christ has DONE for you on the cross 1 Cor 6:11 all past tense - DONE There is nothing you can add to the work of Jesus . purge those filth left on your soul. We are to lead holy lives and avoid sin but we will always have sin in our lives till we die . Romans 6:1,2 For the believer you need to see what sin is Romans 7: the whole chapter and it is pointed out twice to get your attention. Acts 2:38 do what? this is repeated in Acts 3:19 do what for what? Was Peter lying to you? Titus 3:5 surely there must be something I can do to be justified but Titus says NO. Eph 2:5-8 tells you that salvation is a gift. Eph 2:9 says works has nothing to do with salivation, Eph 2:10 tells us that we were created to do the work of God . The sequence of events starts in Eph 2:1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. This is for believers , you were dead But God made you alive verse 5 The wages of sin Venial or Mortal are the same Romans 6:23 1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. No guesswork involved ,you who believe can know you have eternal life. There is no stain of sin when Jesus has taken every stain and washed them out. 1 Peter 2:24 Purgatory makes the claim that there are stains on the soul that need cleaning but that concept is never found in contextual scripture.
When he presents a scripture for proof , look it up , look at the context , make sure the context is actually presenting something that is true not just a belief that someone has. or has been handed down as truth with no proof.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Thank you for your concern, but the fact is two people can look at a bible verse and come away with two different interpretations. The Catholic interpretation goes back to not only Early Christians and the Early Church but even Judaism as well.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072Wow. You should listen to your own words! But from a Catholic perspective. Just from your comment, I know you're not Catholic. I know exactly what Purgatory is! I don't need these videos for myself, although they do help me explain. But I like watching these so that I can share them with those Catholics who do not believe in such things as Purgatory and even that there is only One Church, One Faith. And sharing them with Protestants doesn't always work because they're so bull headed and blind, and purposely so because they're stubborn just to spite us Catholics. So full of hate towards the Catholic Church.
@@1Hope4All And sharing them with Protestants doesn't always work because they're so bull headed and blind, and purposely so because they're stubborn just to spite us Catholics. So full of hate towards the Catholic Church. Sharing the theory of purgatory to a believer in Christ is like sharing sugar cubes with a diabetic ! Sounds good but it is 100% against the finished work of Christ on the cross cleansing you of all sins by taking all your sins on Himself . Jesus is the one who atones for sin ,not us. When you pass on your flesh and all the sins of the flesh do not go with you. No flesh inherits the kingdom of God. Nothing unclean will be in heaven and it is Jesus who has made you clean. We who believe in Christ and His finished work are not spiting the common Catholic believers as that is against what the scriptures teach. We do however disagree with the roman Catholic hierarchy that makes claims of authority . As there is only one church there is no hatred pointed at the body of Christ, that is the church.
6 “The Lord brings death and makes alive; he brings down to the grave and raises up. really makes a difference in what translation is used . Take a good look at what baptism represents according to scripture. You will find that you the believer are united with Christ in the grave rising with Christ into a new creation in Christ the old is gone the new is here.
I'm sure you know that "She'ol" is the Hebrew word for "hell". When you write "brings back up" - is that to haEretz (the Earth)? Or to Shamayim (heavens)? Let's go see ... 1 Samual 2:6 ("One Shmuel", _not_ "First Samuel"!) states: יְהוָ֖ה מֵמִ֣ית וּמְחַיֶּ֑ה מֹורִ֥יד מֹורִ֥יד וַיָּֽעַל׃ Literally meaning: "Yah·weh to die to live to come orgo down/descend underworld to go up/ascend/climb" So, mo·v·rid being one key word - meaning "to come or go down/descend" - she·'ol (place where people descend at death) - vai·ya·'al (to go up/ascend/climb). So it does not specify where we go up to, but that we do go down to she’ol. Interesting.
St Augustine recounts in the Confession that his mother, Monica, wished to have Masses offered for her soul after her death. Clearly, in the 4th century, St Monica believed in Purgatory.
That was very helpful. Thank you for bringing that to light. I always say Hail Mary's for "the souls in Purgatory, especially for those who have no one to pray for them."
Funny but with all of the Protestants complaining about Purgatory they are the ones who no one in their family prayers for after their deaths. Their sufferings will be mitigated by the Catholics they attacked for the belief in the purgatory which they now experience.
There's nothing more kind that you can do than to pray for the Holy souls in Purgatory. They are very grateful. And you can ask them to pray for you. They will gladly do that as you made great friends of them. 🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️
I won’t lie but I’m Absolutely petrified of purgatory.. I attend confession regularly, however many yrs ago I saw leaflets in my church with images of purgatory it has never left my mind they were absolutely horrifically frightening..
Hell is even worse. Aim for Heaven and if some time in Purgatory is needed then so be it. Rejoice in Purgatory as it is God's mercy and shows God's willingness to meet us where we are at even if we need some cleaning. No one that frequents the Sacraments regularly have to fear or worry. St. Mechtilde said Purgatory is immense is from the mouth of Hell to the Gates of Heaven.
Sis..please dont be scared, everyone who goes in the purgatory is still lucky, they will go to heaven when they have finished their time there, it is God unlimited love for us that He provide the purgatory 🧡
@@morgan_baldwin lol. What purgatory. Its a lie and denies Jesus cleansed believers by his atonement. Catholicism is antichrist nonsense. ( BTW, how do you burn a spirit?) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
William is a humble man. So impressive, he is now featuring on St. Paul's Centre podcasts. See him with the Bruce Lee apologist Sam Shammoun. Praise God.
Where can you find puragatory in scripture? Wherever you study scripture, whether in the study, the living room, the car, or the library, there you encounter purgatory. Purgatory is everwhere at all times during our lives of suffering terminating in death.
RCIA convert, from strict evando-fundos, so to speak. My brain gets stuck at the implication that The Passion Crucifixion Death Resurrection somehow insufficient. ALL sin, past, present & future were sent a far away as the east is from the west ---- Jesus said, It Is Finished.....
It is sufficient. These passages below support it. Don't let false teachings rob you of the joy of the GOOD NEWS OF SALVATION of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Hebrews 9:26 "For then He would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." Hebrews 10:12 "But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God" (because HIS ATONING WORKS ARE FINISHED) Romans 5:9 "Since, therefore, we have now been justified by His blood, much more shall we be saved by Him from the wrath of God." Hebrews 10:10 "And by that will we have been SANCTIFIED through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL." (notice that sanctified is in past tense)
What Christ did on the cross was to expiate the sin for all humanity that the fall caused so that the gates of heaven could once again be opened. This does not give you license to go out and freely sin with impunity. You are 💯 percent responsible for every sin you choose to commit which is a rejection of God. And you will pay back every cent.
@@revelation12_1 who said anything about license to sin? When a person receives Christ as Lord and Savior, he/ she is born again of the Spirit and that's the seal of salvation of a believer. In many passages, believers are exhorted to live holy lives which is the evidence of their salvation, the transformation of their lives. But I would direct you to the thief on the cross how the Lord answered him "Truly I say to you, TODAY you will be with me on paradise." , did the Lord require of him cleansing by fire? No, He did not. For it was by His grace. You have to understand GRACE, that it is the undeserved favor of God. That is why we rejoice in the Gospel, the Good News of Salvation because even though we don't deserve it we have been imputed with the righteousness of Christ because we put our trust in Him. Yes, there will be a Judgment Day at the end of the Millennial Kingdom or Thousand Year reign of Christ. But take note that for believers the judgment would be commendation not condemnation, our works will determine the rewards we will get or lose.
Mr. Albrecht, I just revisited the best Orthodox explanation of the souls for the first 40 days after we pass in light of my new Catholic understanding and I feel like Scrooge the morning after the ghostly visitations!
John 15:1-2 KJV [1] I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. [2] Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Did I see "purgeth"? And it seems like we will have the honor to be purged by the Father Himself, so we will become an even better version of ourselves. 🙏🙏🙏
Did you see purges ? Yes in the KJV you did but in the NIV it says 15 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. Both purgeth and prune are stating the same concept. If you do not bear fruit then you are not a believer in Christ. verse 3 says 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
Only through Jesus dying on the cross and through His blood. Living the life as he commended . There is also 8 blessings Jesus thought us about...the way you follow Him here on Earth. Some will see God...some are going to live on the new Earth. Jesus is the only way and we should humble our selves , repent and follow Him. Only His blood and God's Marcy can get us for everlasting life. First Jews and next Gentiles
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you in water unto penance, but he that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire. 🔥🔥🔥
@@po18guy-s4s it means you will be cleansed by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any mans work burn, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
Pugatory is the Divine Mercy of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. To how long we stay in purgation depends on unconfessed sins we've committed before our death. That is why, it's advised we go to confession at least once a month to cleanse our heart and our soul and be close to Jesus always. Jesus, I trust in you.❤️🔥
The main factor to determine the duration in purgatory is how much REPARATION we've made for our sins. Yes, Confession provides the forgiveness, but it does not erase the punishment connected to the sin.
@@ihsrosary If you read scripture you find that Jesus not only died to atone for all of our sins 1 Peter 2:24 but also nailed the punishment for our sins to the cross Coll 2:9-15 . When you repented All of your sins were paid for by Christ you become a new creation in Christ no longer under the law of sin and death. Acts 3:19 Romans 6:23 , 1 John 5:13 Purgatory just does not exist as there is no need of any further cleansing , Jesus did everything possible to make you clean enough for heaven. What if we do sin? 1 John 2:1,2 still clean before God.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 So you are denying that Jesus said to St Faustina that she could spend a few more days suffering on earth or spend 1 day in purgatory? Go ahead, twist the scriptures to meet your earthly desires. Jesus did not die to ATONE for our sins, he died to give us the OPPORTUNITY to enter heaven. Sadly, you will discover your warped Protestant beliefs will be proven false during your final judgement. I pray that you will receive the grace of conversion.
@@ihsrosary So you are denying that Jesus said to St Faustina that she could spend a few more days suffering on earth or spend 1 day in purgatory? You do not find any apparitions considered as truthful in scripture just as you also do not find any concept that Jesus would add to His church something that man has invented , like purgatory where it denies the complete sacrifice on the cross for all the sins of the world . Jesus did not die to ATONE for our sins, he died to give us the OPPORTUNITY to enter heaven. So Peter lied ? 1 Peter 2:24 New Catholic Bible 24 He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live in righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. Jesus Christ died in our place when He was crucified on the cross. We deserved to be the ones placed on that cross to die because we are the ones who live sinful lives. But Christ took the punishment on Himself in our place-He substituted Himself for us and took what we rightly deserved. “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). “He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed” (1 Peter 2:24). Here again we see that Christ took the sins we committed onto Himself to pay the price for us. A few verses later we read, “For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit” (1 Peter 3:18). Not only do these verses teach us about the substitute that Christ was for us, but they also teach that He was the atonement, meaning He satisfied the payment due for the sinfulness of man. I pray that you will receive the grace of conversion. I pray that you will start reading your bible and making sure that what is taught is correct according to scripture Acts 17:11 is valid for today and the roman Catholic church frowns upon it's members reading the scriptures for themselves.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 By your logic anyone "saved' can commit all the sin they want and not be punished so anyone saved can commit idolatry, blasphemy, debauchery, drunkenness, be glutenous, pillage and plunder and not repent and still be saved because as you put it still clean before God. We don't buy that sorry nice try demon.
Doesn't Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. Doesn't the Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our sanctification and salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century. It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation or sanctification and Jesus didn't see that. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
What I don’t get is if this doctrine was what was revealed by the Apostles then why don’t all apostolic churches have this doctrine? Orthodox were in union for nearly 1,000 years with Rome. Yet they don’t have this teaching. Things that are not common between both apostolic churches are likely to be accretions by definition.
At the end of the Book of Revelation we find 2 groups of sinners: the first go to the 2nd death and the second are living outside the City of God. "Blessed are those whose robes are washed clean to enter the city!" Could Purgatory be a suburb with a laundromat?
May the Lord wash us in His holy blood and cleanse us of all impurities. Please make our robes clean Lord, so we can dwell in your presence for eternity and never shame you with our filthiness.
@@120Pythons Purgatory isn’t a place …..but a process. The Lord cleanse of our sins when he died on the cross ….though our sins are as scarlet he washed us of our sins white as snow It’s our choice to follow him or the ways of the world
The number one reason I DO NOT believe in Purgatory is because Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross has cleared my sins under the first Covenant, my sins have been purchased by the blood of the Lamb (Hebrews 2:9/ 9:15). And any sins committed under the second Covenant are still covered by Jesus Christ forever as our High Priest, Mediator, Advocate (1 John 2:1-2/ 1:9/ Hebrews 5:6/ 7:27). (Hebrews 8:6) mentions one of the better promises under the new covenant which is found in (Hebrews 10:17-18). It wouldn't make a dime of a sense if Christ sacrifice only covered our sins for a certain time period but not the future, because even as Christians we still sin. There is a reason Scripture mentions whole chapters on the fact that He is our High Priest forever (Hebrews 7:17) we can continually be offered forgiveness and cleansing from unrighteous acts (1 John 1:9). Hebrews 12 does not mention Purgatory at all, you really have to be "reading between the gaps of the words" to come up with that ideology.
The Bible is the inspired word of God 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 1 Corinthians 10:4 “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.” 1 Samuel 2:2 “There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. Mark 7:7. “Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” 2 Timothy 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” 1 Timothy 4:3 “Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.” 2 Timothy 3:15 “And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.” Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 1Ti 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Tit 1:7 - For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; Hosea 6:6 “For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.” Rev 3:16 - So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Better to be a born again Christian and find a good home Bible study group.
Doesn't Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. Doesn't the Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our sanctification and salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century. It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation or sanctification and Jesus didn't see that. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
Doesn't Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. Doesn't the Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our sanctification and salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century. It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation or sanctification and Jesus didn't see that. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
Christianity is the faith of Christ and the Apostles and is not based on any writing. When verses are posted, heretics damn themselves by raping scripture.
@@astutik8909 Not any problem for us. Long before any of the NT was written, much less canonized, the church was in full operation with its doctrines in full or seed form. And writers tend to not spend much time on things that everyone accepts and understands. Hence, only passing comments about purification and nothing dramatic. God wanted people to come to him through his church and not through a book they did not understand
If you end up in hell, you will have a physical body with physical pain throughout eternity. If you end up in purgatory, you will have a physical body with physical suffering till your body becomes resurrected and new.
Purgatory: cleansing or punishment? Because the catholic church defines purgatory as a place of temporary suffering and misery, it is quickly greeted with rejection and scorn. Our Lord Jesus paid for the sins and penalties of sin by mankind and so expects full confession on our part, of our sins. As long as we are holding on to our sins, it remains ours and not to Christ. No wonder why He made confession of sins so important. But some will die with kept sins in them and God’s mercy works overtime and purges such souls to complete their journey to heaven.
The reason for purgatory is to allow sinners the opportunity to complete the REPARATION we've made for our sins. Yes, Confession provides the forgiveness, but it does not erase the punishment connected to the sin. There are consequences. If you don't suffer enough on earth to pay this debt... then you finish it in purgatory. Even Jesus gave St. Faustina the option to remain a little longer on earth to suffer, or spend 1 day in purgatory.
@@ihsrosary i agree and am not arguing. The negative view of purgatory stems from what seems as its punitive purpose. It is clear that, as you said, reparations are primarily done in purgatory hence, reparation is cleansing slash unburdening for the soul.
It's a cleansing not a punishment. The Church stays silent on if it happens in an instant or is a place and duration though many go with place and duration. It is God excising our proclivity for sin if we didn't do that ourselves here on Earth. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Can the souls in heaven pray for the souls in purgatory? If so, why can't the Church leave that task to the souls in heaven? They are likely to have a better awareness on which souls need prayers. Humans can stop praying to the souls in heaven so that the souls in heaven can concentrate on praying for the souls in purgatory.
We are a family so we pray for each other. So yes they can pray for us and the souls in Purgatory. The souls in Purgatory can pray for us and we can pray for them.
3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?..6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be [a]done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. QED There is no purgatory in scripture. The standard to enter into life is without spot or blemish. The Holy Spirit baptizes those of us in the dispensation of grace that call upon his name, into Christ. When the Father looks down, he doesn't see you, he sees his perfect Son.
One reason why I believe in purgatory? Peter denied knowing Jesus three times, and was asked afterwards to profess his love for Him three times as well. So he didn't have to be punished in purgatory. What about the thief, who most protestants claim went straight to heaven? Well these protestants failed to see the obvious. He himself (the thief) admitted he deserved the death on the cross for his sins. Bottom line- he carried his own cross for his sins,suffered for his sins while still alive.
Heaven: Entering with a immaculate perfect white clothing. Purgatory: You have stains on your white clothes and you can't go to the Eternal Wedding looking like this! You gotta get cleaned up. hell: You tore and burned a hole in your clothes, there's no saving that.
Heaven: Entering with a immaculate perfect white clothing. all because of what Christ did on the cross to present you without blemish Purgatory: You have stains on your white clothes and you can't go to the Eternal Wedding looking like this! You gotta get cleaned up. Purgatory denies Jesus doing the complete clean up of all your sins and there is no remaining 'stains on your clothes , 1 Cor 6:11 all past tense as in Done. When Jesus washes you in His blood shed for you do you really think He missed a stain of sin ? hell: You tore and burned a hole in your clothes, there's no saving that. Hell is when you choose to not repent of the direction you are going in life, choosing the world over following Jesus. No believer will be improperly dressed at the banquet .
None of the verses provide in this video speak of the existence of purgatory. The doctrine of purgatory is found nowhere in the Bible, Jesus never taught about and neither did any of the apostles. The passage of Revelation 21:27 that is provided in the video is in the context of the saints entering into the New Jerusalem BECAUSE their names are written in the Book of Life, not because of purgatory. The second passage provides, 1 Cor. 12:12-27 is speaking in regards to the spiritual gifts within the body of Christ, it has absolutely nothing to do with purgatory. That entire chapter is speaking solely on the spiritual gift within the church and uses the human body as a metaphor to discuss the interrelation of the various gifts within the church. Trying to use any part of that chapter to appeal to purgatory or its nature (effective prayer for those in purgatory) is terrible exegesis.
You: Jesus never taught about and neither did any of the apostles. Me: Jesus spoke of some sins (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit) neither being forgiven in the age or the next. That strongly implies that since can be forgiven in the next age and that can't happen in either Heaven or Hell. There must be a third state. And Catholic doctrines do not come from the New Testament because the church was in operation with its doctrines in some form before any of the NT was written. You fail to recognize that the NT came out of the church and not the other way around. And writers do not try to convince people of things they already accept with no issue.
Wow, he just mentioned a bunch of concepts from all around the Bible, fire, suffering, death, heaven, holiness, and more, and acts like if you put it all together you get purgatory, as if context doesn't exist. This is just sad.
@@peterxuereb9884 not really the term but there are lots of Scriptural support for the Triunity of God. Examples of such passages are 1 John 5:7 (NKJV), Matthew 28:18, Genesis 1:26. The passages give clarity that the One true God is triune in nature. This is not really a good argument to give when it comes to the debate of Scriptural support with regard to the existence of purgatory.
@irishgab04 Why, since we are talking about whether a certain word exists in scripture, I have proven that the term "The Holy Trinity" does not exist in scripture just as the term "Purgatory" does not exist in scripture but scripture itself does speak of "The Truine God" scripture also refers to a place where purification of one's sin's, below are scriptural text and references; Withhold not kindness from the dead Sirach 7:33 (Ecclus. 7:37) Not released until all debts are paid Mt. 5:26 Some sin may be forgiven in next age Mt. 12:32 Not released until all debts are paid Lk. 12:59 Saved but through fire ("there's no fire in heaven!") 1 Cor. 3:15 Wrongdoer will receive recompense Col. 3:25 Spirits in prison 1 Pt. 3:18-20
@@peterxuereb9884 1 Cor 3:15 passage is about THE Judgment Day where our works, not us, will be tested by fire if those were made out of everlasting foundation or "materials". The spirits in prison you're pertaining to are the fallen angels. Matthew 12:32 speaks of the unpardonable sin that blaspheming the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, even in eternity. Colossians 3:25 is still about Judgment Day. In comparison with the passages regarding the Triunity of God, those passages are not explicit to the existence of purgatory. Moreover, in Hebrews 9:27 it says "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment..." and in Luke 23:42-43 at the cross, Jesus answered the thief, ‘I tell you the truth, TODAY you will be with me in paradise’ , and the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31. These passages show that after death judgment is given, either we go to paradise/heaven or hell, no in-between place mentioned. Also, the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ is the propitiation (or satisfaction) for our sins so it is all-sufficient which is why Romans 8:1 says "There is therefore NOW no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." and also His atoning works are finished which is why salvation is by grace through faith, not of us or our works, it is the gift of God. This is why I am joyful of the free gift of salvation because even though I don't deserve it, the Lord Jesus paid it all. Aren't you glad that's the case?
You never learned how to “ rightly divide the word of truth “ 2Tim.2:15 KJV Jesus purged our sins on the cross, we are now spiritual circumcised, a new creature mown Christ owns us if you are saved. 2Cor.13:5 You must be reborn to be saved trust and have Faith in the blood of Jesus to wash all your sins away past, present and future sins. Believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1Cor.15:1-4 There is no biblical evidence of purgatory, That one has to burn to purify one’s self.
“Every man's work shall be manifest. For the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire. And the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is.” (1 Cor 3:13, DRC) “And he touched my mouth, and said: Behold this hath touched thy lips, and thy iniquities shall be taken away, and thy sin shall be cleansed.” (Isa 6:7, DRC)
Does kjv tell you that the body and blood of Christ are symbolic only. “My flesh is true food and my blood true drink”. Jesus knew Protestants would try to twist his words.
@@reedrichards1820 and few verses down in John chapter 6, Jesus says "63 It is the Spirit who gives life; THE FLESH PROFITS NOTHING. THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK TO YOU ARE SPIRIT, and they are life."
@@StanleyPinchak 1Cor. 3 Is talking about your works, bad works burn up, good works are for rewards. Isa.6:7 Is Old Testament and does not apply to the body of Christ. If you deny dividing the word 2: 2:15 KJV than Lev.18 says kill an animal for a sin offering.
@@reedrichards1820 If you read one verse and close the book you will not understand. 1Cor.10:4 ( We all drink the “spiritual drink” and that drink is the Rock and that rock is Christ.
Scripture is very explicitly clear on this subject; Paul says, 'To be absent from the body is to be present with Christ,' praying for people in purgatory makes no sense. This fact is dramatically highlighted in Matthew 27:51, when just after Christ's death, the veil in the Temple which separated the Holy of Holies is torn from top to bottom. The implication is clear-Jesus has given us full access to God. We are redeemed 'fully' through the atoning merit of Christ, not half way. Purgatory, is a man centered teaching taking away the efficacy of redemption, doing away the necessity of the cross for full redemption. When we come to know Christ, the veil has been lifted. The church is considered to be Jesus’ bride. Traditionally, when a bride walks down an aisle in a church, she is wearing a veil; a veil which prevents her from seeing the groom clearly and becoming close to him. When Jesus’ bride (Us) has her veil lifted in heaven, she shall see things and under stand things so much more than she does now, and she now has nothing between her and her groom (Jesus) that prevents the closest possible relationship that the two could have. This basically means that when we get to heaven, we shall see things and understand things so much more than we do now, and we will no longer have a barrier of residual sin between Jesus and us.
Paul also prayed for Onesiphorus after he died . He prayed that his soul be ready on last day . 2 Timothy 1:16-18 (RSV): “May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains, [17] but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me - [18] may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day - and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.” (cf. 4:19)
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny. Matthew 5:26
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God has His own chosen ones SAINTS...People shouldn't call others Saints...Jesus said it is not your role to make saints on Earth...Only one God in Heaven is Saint. Beside even Lucifer can appear as an angel of light to deceive many.
I have heard that this life is “school" .What we dont learn here, we will learn “there”! I just pray I “pass”! I follow Jesus and Pray!! It makes sense to me there are different levels. I do not have the education or intelligence of Dr Scott Hahn and so many others but I am loving God !
Yes, purification is connected to purgatory in the sense that some interpretations of biblical passages suggest a period of purification after death for those destined for heaven. Purgatory, which is a state of purification where souls are cleansed of any remaining imperfections before entering heaven.
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If we die in mortal sin, we chose to be separated from God. He honors our choices for eternity. There’s no hope left. If we die in Venial sin, we have to be purged of it to enter Heaven, as nothing impure can enter. Purgatory is a complete cleansing of our souls on the way to Heaven. We’re to pray for the souls in Purgatory to receive comfort & be released from their sins. 1Cor3:15, Mt5:25-26, 1Pet3:18-20, 1Jn 5:16-17, Jn19:11, Rev21:27, 2Macc 12:43-46 Jesus saves us baptized with The Holy Spirit & Holy Water from original sin. Sins committed after Baptism have to be confessed, receive absolution & Penance to serve to be forgiven by God. That’s why He instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation. He exhorts through His Priests as they are in persona Christi when enacting His Sacraments. They are the only ones He gave His authority & power to. 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt 9:1-8, 16:18-19, 18:17-18.
I have read scripture completely several times and have found nothing to support the doctrine of purgatory. 1 John 1:9 takes care of sinful failures after conversion. Augustine is not "great." He imported many things from Gnosticism and polluted theology for centuries. Both Roman Catholicism and Calvinism are shot through with Augustine's many heresies.
@@po18guy-s4s Pointing out a fact is not egotistic. The RCC pushes many doctrines it claims are biblically based when it turns out the passages cited do not support the doctrine. Purgatory is one of those doctrines.
Neither is Trinity or Consubstantial yet most protestants agree with those doctrines. The fact is doctrines can be eluded to without being explicitly referenced by name. Purgatory is the Latin translation. This isn't about sin debt it's about holiness and our inclination towards sin. If we don't deal with that here on Earth God will excise it from us either in an instant or in duration. You can see this in 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
@@kisstune I am aware of the doctrine of the Trinity and it can not be escaped. Unitarians are heretics. Purgatory is not even alluded to as is the trinity. One can pursue holiness in this life, and through the empowering Holy Spirit it is possible to attain. 1 Cor 3:15 is speaking of the judgment at the Judgement Seat of Christ, which all of us will stand. It is not talking about purgatory.
The main point of protestantism vs purgatory is that God made a defective man. Man did not choose to exist much less be defective. God owes man his salvation and sanctification. This is why protestants reject original sin, free will, basically all sacraments and purgatory among others. Where else can they get the confidence for their impunity?
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Hebrews 9:25-26 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another- He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but NOW, ONCE at the end of the ages, He has appeared to PUT AWAY SIN by the sacrifice of Himself. Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW NO CONDEMNATION to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
@@irishgab04 1. We MUST COME FORWARD to the throne of Grace 2. TO OBTAIN; hence WE venture on our own desire to receive God’s grace; 3. Grace comes through faith. Faith comes by hearing (preaching) the word of God BUT WE MUST BE DOERS OF THE WORD and not merely hearers; 4. Christ is a sacrifice ONCE AND FOR??? ALL TIME. All time means always and every time hence, “do this in REMEMBRANCE of me”; “as often as we eat this bread and drink this cup…” 5. You cannot deny that a doctrine of impunity exists in protestantism by claiming these verses. Being christian may have saved you from God’s wrath and condemnation THROUGH THE LAW, but if you are weighed, measured and found wanting, you will be fixed. For nothing imperfect or broken will not be fixed by God and our cooperation is necessary for Him to do so..
@gbnessdot96 was a joyless gospel preached to you that has made you judgmental and quarrelsome? where's the extension of God's grace and love for others in your words? Where's the fruit of the Holy Spirit? Instead of using words such as "impunity" just be gracious and kind. Surely, the Lord would prefer lovingkindess over winning arguments.
@@irishgab04 when scriptures is thrown at catholics with biased and false interpretations, we give whomsoever that threw it at us its right, unbiased, truthful interpretation. It is obligatory. Same with non catholics who may say, “well, we are right and you are of the devil because Exodus says you worship so and so, idolaters…” because it is obligatory for them and believe to be true. “Impunity “ is not an unkind or an unchristian word. In this context it means immune or excused from punishment as direct result of their sins which clearly all protestants believe based on that Jesus had taken all of it to Himself so that no one will have to pay for themselves. Was to raise this point harshness? No.
I am currently studying Christian Ministry and Theology, and I watch and comment on many different pastors. What is the biblical difference between Purgatory in Christianity vs Catholics? For Christians purgatory is purification before death, or before rising from the dead. Purification and sanctification prior to joining our heavenly family. How is this different in catholic faith?
Most Protestant denominations do not believe in Purgatory, except Anglicans of Anglo-Catholic origin and Lutherans of High Lutheranism. Catholicism, which is Christianity, affirms the truth that Purgatory is what happens to souls, who are already forgiven of their sins and going to Heaven but still need to be purified of the effects of sin. No sinner who has not atoned for their sins is in purgatory. Purgatory is for saints who still need to be purified of the effects of sin before entering Heaven. You can learn more about Purgatory in our series on Emmaus Academy: my.stpaulcenter.com/play/purgatory ! God Bless!
It's not a matter of Christian vs Catholic.. it's a matter of what the Scripture says.... Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. The Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century. It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation and Jesus didn't know. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
If anyone wants to know if there’s a purgatory just listen to what Jesus Christ said to the Jews and said that as Jonah was in the whales belly for three days so will the Son of man be in the heart of the earth for three days think about it and meditate where is Jesus Christ talking about?🤔
- 📘 Purgatory is explained as a postmortem purification necessary because nothing impure can enter heaven according to Biblical teachings. - 🔄 William Albrecht discusses the misconceptions and differences between Protestant and Catholic views on purgatory. - 🏛 The Catholic Church holds that purification is required for inward purity before entering heaven, as supported by church teachings and Biblical passages. - ✝ Protestants view Christ's death as eliminating the need for postmortem purification, whereas Catholics see chastisement as part of God's love. - 🔥 Purgatory involves purification which could be uncomfortable, though the exact nature of this process is not defined. - 🙏 Prayers from the living can assist those in purgatory due to the interconnectedness of the Church, described as militant, suffering, and triumphant. - 👼 Individuals in purgatory are seen as saved and cannot lose salvation, needing purification out of love rather than legal obligation. - 🚪 The sacrament of confession is crucial for forgiveness and is tied to the concept of purgatory, helping believers grow in holiness and prepare for heavenly purity. Generated by Harpa
We were justified from sin to work no longer after the flesh but in the Spirit. (Rom 8:1) in as such, there's no condemnation towards us. If you are genuinely saved, then there's no going back to live in your sinful ways. And if that's the case, then the whole purgatory statement falls apart. Sanctification is the process which the Spirit of God takes us through on this earth that positions us to be like Christ. You guys are making the works of Christ and His Spirit given to us of no effect by these teachings.
You: If you are genuinely saved, then there's no going back to live in your sinful ways. Me: If you are genuinely saved, then you are genuinely dead. And once declared as saved the question is are you perfectly pure or do you need cleansing.
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Wrong, Jesus did not find the Eastern Orthodox Church, they broke away from the Catholic Church a thousand years later similar to the Protestant churches…
So Jesus didn't suffer enough on the cross, we have to suffer more to make his suffering complete and sufficient. We need to complete his suffering cause his atoning work on the cross was missing our suffering!! BLASPHEMY!!
Two examples, If a child breaks hiw neighbour's window while playing, he is guilty of it, he would need to go ask forgiveness from his neigbour, who will most likely say "sure kid, you were playing, I forgive you", but that doesn´t fix that window, in order to set things right the kid maybe with help from his father, needs to help the neighbour to replace the window for a new one and commit to be more careful next time so he doesn´t break a window. Another one, think your life is a wall on a house and for every sin you commit, you put a nail on it. When Jesus forgives your sins, He takes away each nail, but once you die and meet Him in person, would you want to give Him a wall full of holes (each hole as the consequence of your sins and the attachment to sinful conduct). Maybe you would, but if God is infinitely just, then you would like to patch the holes and paint the wall before you give it to the Lord. That is what purgatory is for, you don´t need to complete Jesus suffering, but every time we lie, steal, cheat, have sex out of wedlock, use the Lord's name in vain, kill someone or any other sin, there are consequences for others and for ourselves and we just don´t know how far they can go. So Jesus takes the guilt from us, but those consequences for our actions are still there and we must make a penitence for it and be cleansed of that capacity to sin again if we are to enter Heaven.
@@richardmh1987 Jesus died for all our sins on the cross! He said it is finished before he delivered his spirit. When you thru faith become born again, your sins are forgiven! Hebrews 8:12 "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more". However, if we sin, apostle john said : 1 John 1:9 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. When we sin against each the apostle Paul said: Colossians 3:13 "Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive" Jesus also said in this matter: if “your brother or sister has something against you … First go and be reconciled to them” (Matthew 5:23-24). There are no additional punishments you need to endure in the after life. That is a man made teaching resulting from lack of faith and undermining the magnitude of the price Jesus paid on the cross for our sins.
@@richardmh1987 I don’t think you get it at all. Paul writes in Roman 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” **Jesus paid the full price for your sins and mine by his own blood. Those who put their full trust and faith in Jesus, are fully and completely bought with his precious blood! Jesus said “It is finished” before he gave up his spirit. The debt has been fully paid!
Peter wrote: 1 Peter 3:18 "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God He also writes: 1 Peter 2:24 "He himself bore our sins' in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness" Paul wrote: Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us He also wrote in Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law ***Your good deeds are like dirty and filthy rags to God. The only way to get in heaven is ONLY thru faith in Jesus’s work; never yours or mine. You could not begin to pay your debt and if you ever rely on your good deeds, Paul said you would be cursed. You would be turning down the precious payment Jesus made on your behalf! Its an insult to God to try to offer your filthy deeds as a payment for your sins on top of what Jesus did on the cross. If you think you can help God atone for your sins or do him a favor, you will never see the kingdom of God. Isaiah 64:4 says: For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
@@richardmh1987 I don’t think you get it at all! Paul writes in Roman 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” **Jesus paid the full price for your sins and mine by his own blood. We those who put their full trust and faith in Jesus were fully and completely bought with his precious blood. Jesus said “It is finished” before he gave up his spirit. The debt has been fully paid!1 Peter wrote: 1 Peter 3:18 "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God" and he wrote : 1 Peter 2:24 "He himself bore our sins' in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness" Paul wrote: Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" Paul wrote in Galatians 3:10: "For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law" ***Your good deeds are like dirty and filthy rags to God. The only way to get in heaven is ONLY thru Jesus’s work; never yours or mine. You could not begin to pay your debt and if you ever rely on your good deeds, Paul said you would be cursed. You would be turning down the precious payment Jesus made on your behalf! Its an insult to God to try to offer your filthy deeds as a payment for your sins on top of what Jesus did on the cross. If you think you can help God atone for your sins or do him a favor, you will never see the kingdom of God. Isaiah 64:4 says: "For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away."
@@richardmh1987 I don’t think you get it at all. Paul writes in Roman 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” **Jesus paid the full price for your sins and mine by his own blood. We those who put their full trust and faith in Jesus were fully and completely bought with his precious blood. Jesus said “It is finished” before he gave up his spirit. The debt has been fully paid!1 Peter wrote: 1 Peter 3:18 "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God" and he wrote : 1 Peter 2:24 "He himself bore our sins' in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness" Paul wrote: Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" Paul wrote in Galatians 3:10: "For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law" ***Your good deeds are like dirty and filthy rags to God. The only way to get in heaven is ONLY thru Jesus’s work; never yours or mine. You could not begin to pay your debt and if you ever rely on your good deeds, Paul said you would be cursed. You would be turning down the precious payment Jesus made on your behalf! Its an insult to God to try to offer your filthy deeds as a payment for your sins on top of what Jesus did on the cross. If you think you can help God atone for your sins or do him a favor, you will never see the kingdom of God. Isaiah 64:4 says: "For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away."
3 scripture versus WHY we need purgatory. 1 . " nothing unclean shall enter it ( heaven )." Rev 21: 27 . 2. " Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect. " Matthew 5: 28. 3. " Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God. " Matthew 5: 8. To see God in the face ie. The Beatific Vision, can only happen if we are perfect in every way. Thank God for His mercy. Vivo Christo Rey.
@@ameribeaner It isn't in the bible in neon lights. It is hinted at. Start with Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure gets into Heaven. So if you are truthful you will admit that you are a sinner. So you are excluded from Heaven unless there is a method to purify you before you try to enter. Then go to 2 Maccabees 12...oops, you guys threw that away because it implied that there was a place where prayer was effective after one's death. Then Matthew 12:32 "And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come ". Hmmm. Sins are forgiven in the age to come? That can't happen in either Heaven or Hell so it implies a third state. Then Matthew 5:24-25, Jesus says: " Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny ". I Corinthians 3:11-15 may well be the most straightforward text in all of Sacred Scripture when it comes to Purgatory: For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble-each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. The word "purgatory" is not mentioned once. However, a third place is and a place of purification is, and that prayers can benefit the dead is. All of that fits like puzzle pieces into the Catholic understanding of purgatory.
What a dreadful excuse for apologetics! Purgatory exists because a catholic says so (St Thomas Aquinas) There are 3 different stages (militant, suffering and triumphant) because the catholic religion says so. A good idea would be to quote SPECIFIC scriptures that point unquestionably at "purgatory" You won't because that state does not exist. Your relationship with God is set upon your death. Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. There is ZERO mention of a "cleansing after death", or anything similar, in scripture anywhere!
@@georgepierson4920 This is the KJV verse: Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. This one also from the KJV Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Bottom line: there is nowhere in Scripture that states everything unclean shall enter the Kingdom of God. In fact, quite the opposite.
I would say this is painful to listen to. I am curious about the messed up interpretation of forgiveness of sins. How many of your sins, you Catholics are retained by a priest? And why?
@@bridgefin You know what, you right ~ regardless of misinterpretation of John 20:21. How do priests retains sins when an unrepentant person most likely won't show up in confessionals?
@@Nolongeraslave You: How do priests retains sins when an unrepentant person most likely won't show up in confessionals? Me: Those people are likely doomed. But sins can be retained in the confessional when the sinner refused to repent of the sin. You want examples? a. Woman states that she had an abortion but says that she is not sorry because she has a right to do what she wants to her body. That mortal sin is not forgiven but retained. She can be set free if she decides to repent and requests absolution. b. Young man confesses that he had sexual relations with girlfriend. Turns out that they live together. Priest retains that sin until the man comes back and tells the priest that they are no longer living together. Can't be sorry for something that you have set yourself up to do again. You: Peter sat in a confessional waiting for Ananias and his wife to confess their sins? Me: Dead people don't go to the confessional.
Oh stop it. If purgatory is biblical, then you believe God speaks with marbles in his mouth and hid that doctrine in-between the lines waiting for people like Willy boy to come on the scene and tell us what he REALLY means! The same goes for no mention of a papal office, no mention of papal infallibility, no mention of a sacerdotal priesthood, no indulgences, no Marian dogmas, no mass, and on and on! What you're proposing is a religion desperate to find justification in Scripture, and it will never be so. Good day.
People read your bibles yourselves so you are not deceived. Come to your own conclusions. The Bible clearly states that Christs righteousness is imputed to us through our faith in him, is this guy saying Christs righteousness is not good enough?. “It is finished” Christ said right before he died, not it’s almost finished now it’s up to you. Purgatory was a way to make money the Catholic Church is a business.
@@po18guy-s4s please Read 2 Corinthians 5:21 and think about what it says in reference to Christs sacrifice and what it did for us in Gods eyes. It is pretty clear. There are other references but this is very clear.
Purgatory is an insult and slap in the face to the Lord Jesus. His shed blood on the cross is sufficient to cleansers of our sins. Jesus taught heaven and hell not Purgatory.
You miss the point. Christ blood is sufficient for our sins but with our freewill we can still have a penchant for sin and if we don't excise it from us we can't enter Heaven. Fortunately God is a merciful God and in death will excise it from us if we still have that attachment rather then condemning us to Hell. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
It's God's mercy not nonsense unless God's mercy is nonsense. It's about our holiness and attachment to sin. If we remove our attachment to sin then Purgatory is not needed, but if we don't then God will remove it from us either instantly or in duration. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
I do not believe in purgatory. The Lord chastises us here on earth, so that we have no need to be chastised in heaven. The one, who ist not chastised, ist also not of Lord and will face judgement. And in the heaven, the carnate body will be transformed, removing the sin forever from us, so we can at last live without struggles according to Christ. God bless you Mr. Albrecht. 1 Cor 11,29-32 & Heb 12,7-8 & 1 Cor 15,51-56 1Cor 11:29-32: 29 For he that eateth and drinketh, eateth and drinketh judgment unto himself, if he discern not the body. 30 For this cause many among you are weak and sickly, and not a few sleep. 31 But if we discerned ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world. Heb 12:7-8: 7 It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 1Cor 15:51-56: 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy victory? O death, where is thy sting? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the power of sin is the law:
You claim you don't believe in Purgatory yet go on and state Purgatory's purpose. Yes there is no chastisement in Heaven. We actually believe that sin including original sin is removed in baptism and a person is born again, adopted by God, and sealed with the Seal of Life by the Holy Spirit. What is left for us is the inclination to sin so if we sin we get absolution from God in the Sacrament of Reconciliation. If we don't remove the inclination to sin here God will remove it from us. That removal and transformation IS Purgatory.
@@kisstune Thank you for your response. What I was referring to is the process of sanctification. Through the Holy Spirit we learn to hate sin and be more Christ-like or spiritually mature. If we understand our trespassing and try to overcome the sin, God does not have a need to chastise or judge us, but if not - He does, like the father, who teaches his child to behave. Therefore the chastisement is a help from our Father to go and to sin no more. That's said every child of God is having a struggle within his self with his sinful nature. In this struggle, the child of God will be always willing to obey God, maybe not always successfully, but the inclination will be to do that. I must add, that this inclination is not based on feelings, because they also can be a temptation. This struggle will end, when sinful nature will be dealt with. If you struggle, it is already a good sign. Roman 7 talks about that at the end of the chapter. Now in spiritually maturing, or becoming a Christ-like, there are 3 phases. A child, a young man and a father according to 1. John 2,12-14. Children have their sin forgiven and have Father in Heaven, the young men have overcome sin and can recognise devils temptations and so on. What I am saying, if you are of Christ, you will not be able to live in sin, but have struggles. If you have struggles with sin, it means you are on the way to God, keep up this good fight, you are not first and not last and you can overcome. Therefore, the only problem is our sinful nature, but spiritually we are born again. With the sinful nature will be dealt with, when we stay in a good fight until the end - because you are on the way to God, and our bodies at the end will be also born again, removing the cause to have struggles - the transformation. There is no need for purgatory after death. I am sorry, english is not my native language. It is not my intention to have right, but maybe help on the way. God bless you.
The #1 reason why I believe in Purgatory is because nothing unclean can enter Heaven... so if you die and aren't completely like Jesus, thank GOD for Purgatory, because without that, we would go to hell because none of us are ever going to be like Jesus. Protestants think they can do evil crap and then repent and die and go straight to Heaven; but you died in a certain venial sinful state, you can go to Heaven, but you have stains on your white garments... you gotta get cleaned up, purge those filth left on your soul.
The #1 reason why I believe in Purgatory is because nothing unclean can enter Heaven..
That's true nothing unclean will be in heaven , so what makes you clean?
. so if you die and aren't completely like Jesus, thank GOD for Purgatory, because without that, we would go to hell because none of us are ever going to be like Jesus.
This is where you go off track. You will never be completely like Jesus but He has already cleaned you up thoroughly the moment you repented and asked forgiveness of your sins. You have eternal life and your salvation is assured the moment that you repent and follow Jesus The Holy Spirit places His seal on the believer and never takes it away for any sin , Jesus dwells in your heart and you become more like Jesus as you yield to Him. All your sins are forgiven and it is Jesus and only Jesus who atones for all of your sins .
Protestants think they can do evil crap and then repent and die and go straight to Heaven;
Where on earth do you get this giant LIE from? That is so ignorant to claim.
Protestants are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and they read God's written word the bible . The bible is set out as an example of what a believer is to do. Absolutely nowhere does it ever say you repent and live in the world . Please do not claim false concepts because someone told you something!
but you died in a certain venial sinful state, you can go to Heaven, but you have stains on your white garments.
A false statement made by individuals that do not accept the complete sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for all of your sins which includes nailing the punishment of those sins to the cross as well Coll 2:9-15
.. you gotta get cleaned up,
You need to accept what Christ has DONE for you on the cross 1 Cor 6:11 all past tense - DONE
There is nothing you can add to the work of Jesus .
purge those filth left on your soul.
We are to lead holy lives and avoid sin but we will always have sin in our lives till we die . Romans 6:1,2
For the believer you need to see what sin is Romans 7: the whole chapter and it is pointed out twice to get your attention.
Acts 2:38 do what? this is repeated in Acts 3:19 do what for what? Was Peter lying to you?
Titus 3:5 surely there must be something I can do to be justified but Titus says NO.
Eph 2:5-8 tells you that salvation is a gift. Eph 2:9 says works has nothing to do with salivation, Eph 2:10 tells us that we were created to do the work of God . The sequence of events starts in Eph 2:1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
This is for believers , you were dead But God made you alive verse 5
The wages of sin Venial or Mortal are the same Romans 6:23
1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
No guesswork involved ,you who believe can know you have eternal life. There is no stain of sin when Jesus has taken every stain and washed them out. 1 Peter 2:24
Purgatory makes the claim that there are stains on the soul that need cleaning but that concept is never found in contextual scripture.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072💯
@@brucewmclaughlin9072Luke 12:46-59
1Cor 3:15
Amen 🙏
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 am I understanding you correctly if I say nothing I do matter as long as I have accepted Jesus-Christ?
So this will be a series about Purgatory here on this channel? Can't wait!
When he presents a scripture for proof , look it up , look at the context , make sure the context is actually presenting something that is true not just a belief that someone has. or has been handed down as truth with no proof.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Thank you for your concern, but the fact is two people can look at a bible verse and come away with two different interpretations. The Catholic interpretation goes back to not only Early Christians and the Early Church but even Judaism as well.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072look who’s talking 😂
@@brucewmclaughlin9072Wow. You should listen to your own words! But from a Catholic perspective. Just from your comment, I know you're not Catholic.
I know exactly what Purgatory is! I don't need these videos for myself, although they do help me explain. But I like watching these so that I can share them with those Catholics who do not believe in such things as Purgatory and even that there is only One Church, One Faith.
And sharing them with Protestants doesn't always work because they're so bull headed and blind, and purposely so because they're stubborn just to spite us Catholics. So full of hate towards the Catholic Church.
@@1Hope4All And sharing them with Protestants doesn't always work because they're so bull headed and blind, and purposely so because they're stubborn just to spite us Catholics. So full of hate towards the Catholic Church.
Sharing the theory of purgatory to a believer in Christ is like sharing sugar cubes with a diabetic ! Sounds good but it is 100% against the finished work of Christ on the cross cleansing you of all sins by taking all your sins on Himself . Jesus is the one who atones for sin ,not us. When you pass on your flesh and all the sins of the flesh do not go with you. No flesh inherits the kingdom of God. Nothing unclean will be in heaven and it is Jesus who has made you clean.
We who believe in Christ and His finished work are not spiting the common Catholic believers as that is against what the scriptures teach. We do however disagree with the roman Catholic hierarchy that makes claims of authority .
As there is only one church there is no hatred pointed at the body of Christ, that is the church.
Great to see William on this channel!!
His TH-cam content on Patristic Pillars is outstanding. He also creates Spanish language content. Thanks be to God.
I just read today in 1 Samuel 2 the Lord sends to Sheol and brings back up.
6 “The Lord brings death and makes alive;
he brings down to the grave and raises up.
really makes a difference in what translation is used . Take a good look at what baptism represents according to scripture. You will find that you the believer are united with Christ in the grave rising with Christ into a new creation in Christ the old is gone the new is here.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Yes that's why we baptise asap after birth 🙏🏽🙏🏻🙏🏾
I'm sure you know that "She'ol" is the Hebrew word for "hell". When you write "brings back up" - is that to haEretz (the Earth)? Or to Shamayim (heavens)? Let's go see ... 1 Samual 2:6 ("One Shmuel", _not_ "First Samuel"!) states:
יְהוָ֖ה מֵמִ֣ית וּמְחַיֶּ֑ה מֹורִ֥יד מֹורִ֥יד וַיָּֽעַל׃
Literally meaning: "Yah·weh to die to live to come orgo down/descend underworld to go up/ascend/climb"
So, mo·v·rid being one key word - meaning "to come or go down/descend" - she·'ol (place where people descend at death) - vai·ya·'al (to go up/ascend/climb). So it does not specify where we go up to, but that we do go down to she’ol. Interesting.
Emmaus Academy has helped me immensely. This course will be another step in that process, looking forward to the release.
St Augustine recounts in the Confession that his mother, Monica, wished to have Masses offered for her soul after her death. Clearly, in the 4th century, St Monica believed in Purgatory.
Amen brother William! I have learned so much from all of your courses. Keep up the great work. May God continue to guide and lead you 🙏
William it’s fantastic to see you in Emmaus Academy! Thank you for all you do for the faith .
Excellent! God bless William Albrecht for the treasure he is to the Catholic faith. God bless Emmaus Academy !
His TH-cam content on Patristic Pillars is outstanding. He also creates Spanish language content. Thanks be to God.
You can’t also find it when you die and God willing you die in grace.
William is the man! It's great to learn so that we can understand and explain to others better.
Catholic teachings make sense. It has reason, logic wisdom, intellect and faith.
That was very helpful. Thank you for bringing that to light. I always say Hail Mary's for "the souls in Purgatory, especially for those who have no one to pray for them."
Funny but with all of the Protestants complaining about Purgatory they are the ones who no one in their family prayers for after their deaths. Their sufferings will be mitigated by the Catholics they attacked for the belief in the purgatory which they now experience.
There's nothing more kind that you can do than to pray for the Holy souls in Purgatory. They are very grateful. And you can ask them to pray for you. They will gladly do that as you made great friends of them. 🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️
I won’t lie but I’m
Absolutely petrified of purgatory.. I attend confession regularly, however many yrs ago I saw leaflets in my church with images of purgatory it has never left my mind they were absolutely horrifically frightening..
There is no purgatory darling. Its a lie to frighten you.
Hell is even worse. Aim for Heaven and if some time in Purgatory is needed then so be it. Rejoice in Purgatory as it is God's mercy and shows God's willingness to meet us where we are at even if we need some cleaning. No one that frequents the Sacraments regularly have to fear or worry. St. Mechtilde said Purgatory is immense is from the mouth of Hell to the Gates of Heaven.
Sis..please dont be scared, everyone who goes in the purgatory is still lucky, they will go to heaven when they have finished their time there, it is God unlimited love for us that He provide the purgatory 🧡
@@morgan_baldwin lol. What purgatory.
Its a lie and denies Jesus cleansed believers by his atonement.
Catholicism is antichrist nonsense.
( BTW, how do you burn a spirit?) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@kisstune hmmmm so Jesus didnt actually cleanse us thru his atoning sacrifice?
William is like the Catholic gentle giant. He looks like he could slap the heresy out of someone.
He and Sam are the dynamic duo.
William is a humble man. So impressive, he is now featuring on St. Paul's Centre podcasts. See him with the Bruce Lee apologist Sam Shammoun. Praise God.
No one can go to Heaven without Holyness white as snow 🌨️
Where can you find puragatory in scripture?
Wherever you study scripture, whether in the study, the living room, the car, or the library, there you encounter purgatory.
Purgatory is everwhere at all times during our lives of suffering terminating in death.
RCIA convert, from strict evando-fundos, so to speak. My brain gets stuck at the implication that The Passion Crucifixion Death Resurrection somehow insufficient. ALL sin, past, present & future were sent a far away as the east is from the west ---- Jesus said, It Is Finished.....
I think of it as our sins are forgiven, yes, but that doesn't mean our desire to sin has gone. That's a separate thing from forgiveness.
It is sufficient. These passages below support it. Don't let false teachings rob you of the joy of the GOOD NEWS OF SALVATION of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Hebrews 9:26 "For then He would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."
Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
Hebrews 10:12 "But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God" (because HIS ATONING WORKS ARE FINISHED)
Romans 5:9 "Since, therefore, we have now been justified by His blood, much more shall we be saved by Him from the wrath of God."
Hebrews 10:10 "And by that will we have been SANCTIFIED through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL." (notice that sanctified is in past tense)
It is sufficient. Don't let false teachings rob you of the joy of the GOOD NEWS OF SALVATION of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
What Christ did on the cross was to expiate the sin for all humanity that the fall caused so that the gates of heaven could once again be opened. This does not give you license to go out and freely sin with impunity. You are 💯 percent responsible for every sin you choose to commit which is a rejection of God. And you will pay back every cent.
@@revelation12_1 who said anything about license to sin? When a person receives Christ as Lord and Savior, he/ she is born again of the Spirit and that's the seal of salvation of a believer. In many passages, believers are exhorted to live holy lives which is the evidence of their salvation, the transformation of their lives. But I would direct you to the thief on the cross how the Lord answered him "Truly I say to you, TODAY you will be with me on paradise." , did the Lord require of him cleansing by fire? No, He did not. For it was by His grace. You have to understand GRACE, that it is the undeserved favor of God. That is why we rejoice in the Gospel, the Good News of Salvation because even though we don't deserve it we have been imputed with the righteousness of Christ because we put our trust in Him.
Yes, there will be a Judgment Day at the end of the Millennial Kingdom or Thousand Year reign of Christ. But take note that for believers the judgment would be commendation not condemnation, our works will determine the rewards we will get or lose.
Mr. Albrecht, I just revisited the best Orthodox explanation of the souls for the first 40 days after we pass in light of my new Catholic understanding and I feel like Scrooge the morning after the ghostly visitations!
John 15:1-2 KJV
[1] I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. [2] Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Did I see "purgeth"? And it seems like we will have the honor to be purged by the Father Himself, so we will become an even better version of ourselves. 🙏🙏🙏
The Bible comes from the Catholic Church. Kjv (as altered as it is) included.
Did you see purges ? Yes in the KJV you did but in the NIV it says
15 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
Both purgeth and prune are stating the same concept.
If you do not bear fruit then you are not a believer in Christ.
verse 3 says 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.
We are purified by His work on the cross. The disciples didn't go purgatory as they were already clean.
Only through Jesus dying on the cross and through His blood. Living the life as he commended . There is also 8 blessings Jesus thought us about...the way you follow Him here on Earth. Some will see God...some are going to live on the new Earth. Jesus is the only way and we should humble our selves , repent and follow Him. Only His blood and God's Marcy can get us for everlasting life. First Jews and next Gentiles
Matthew 3:11
I indeed baptize you in water unto penance, but he that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Ghost and fire. 🔥🔥🔥
OK. So what does that mean? Romans 11:22. You can be CUT OFF.
@@po18guy-s4s it means you will be cleansed by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15
If any mans work burn, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.
@@crimsontwins6612 Yes, Purgation.
Pugatory is the Divine Mercy of our Saviour, Jesus Christ.
To how long we stay in purgation depends on unconfessed sins we've committed before our death. That is why, it's advised we go to confession at least once a month to cleanse our heart and our soul and be close to Jesus always.
Jesus, I trust in you.❤️🔥
The main factor to determine the duration in purgatory is how much REPARATION we've made for our sins. Yes, Confession provides the forgiveness, but it does not erase the punishment connected to the sin.
@@ihsrosary If you read scripture you find that Jesus not only died to atone for all of our sins 1 Peter 2:24 but also nailed the punishment for our sins to the cross Coll 2:9-15 . When you repented All of your sins were paid for by Christ you become a new creation in Christ no longer under the law of sin and death. Acts 3:19 Romans 6:23 , 1 John 5:13
Purgatory just does not exist as there is no need of any further cleansing , Jesus did everything possible to make you clean enough for heaven. What if we do sin? 1 John 2:1,2 still clean before God.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 So you are denying that Jesus said to St Faustina that she could spend a few more days suffering on earth or spend 1 day in purgatory? Go ahead, twist the scriptures to meet your earthly desires. Jesus did not die to ATONE for our sins, he died to give us the OPPORTUNITY to enter heaven. Sadly, you will discover your warped Protestant beliefs will be proven false during your final judgement. I pray that you will receive the grace of conversion.
@@ihsrosary So you are denying that Jesus said to St Faustina that she could spend a few more days suffering on earth or spend 1 day in purgatory?
You do not find any apparitions considered as truthful in scripture just as you also do not find any concept that Jesus would add to His church something that man has invented , like purgatory where it denies the complete sacrifice on the cross for all the sins of the world .
Jesus did not die to ATONE for our sins, he died to give us the OPPORTUNITY to enter heaven.
So Peter lied ? 1 Peter 2:24
New Catholic Bible
24 He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live in righteousness.
By his wounds you have been healed.
Jesus Christ died in our place when He was crucified on the cross. We deserved to be the ones placed on that cross to die because we are the ones who live sinful lives. But Christ took the punishment on Himself in our place-He substituted Himself for us and took what we rightly deserved. “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21).
“He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed” (1 Peter 2:24). Here again we see that Christ took the sins we committed onto Himself to pay the price for us. A few verses later we read, “For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit” (1 Peter 3:18). Not only do these verses teach us about the substitute that Christ was for us, but they also teach that He was the atonement, meaning He satisfied the payment due for the sinfulness of man.
I pray that you will receive the grace of conversion.
I pray that you will start reading your bible and making sure that what is taught is correct according to scripture Acts 17:11 is valid for today and the roman Catholic church frowns upon it's members reading the scriptures for themselves.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 By your logic anyone "saved' can commit all the sin they want and not be punished so anyone saved can commit idolatry, blasphemy, debauchery, drunkenness, be glutenous, pillage and plunder and not repent and still be saved because as you put it still clean before God. We don't buy that sorry nice try demon.
You will not get out till you have paid the very last penny.
Doesn't Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. Doesn't the Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our sanctification and salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century.
It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation or sanctification and Jesus didn't see that. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
@@realdealholyfield-dx3bf Keep asking questions brother and you'll find out! I was in the same boat as you
What I don’t get is if this doctrine was what was revealed by the Apostles then why don’t all apostolic churches have this doctrine? Orthodox were in union for nearly 1,000 years with Rome. Yet they don’t have this teaching. Things that are not common between both apostolic churches are likely to be accretions by definition.
Not at all. The Orthodox have a similar belief, but not by name. Doctrine is declared to clarify disputes. It may have been held from the beginning.
The Orthodox teach a "Toll House ". Same concept
God bless you Williams
At the end of the Book of Revelation we find 2 groups of sinners: the first go to the 2nd death and the second are living outside the City of God. "Blessed are those whose robes are washed clean to enter the city!" Could Purgatory be a suburb with a laundromat?
I thought there would be a map.
May the Lord wash us in His holy blood and cleanse us of all impurities. Please make our robes clean Lord, so we can dwell in your presence for eternity and never shame you with our filthiness.
@@120Pythons
Purgatory isn’t a place …..but a process.
The Lord cleanse of our sins when he died on the cross ….though our sins are as scarlet he washed us of our sins white as snow
It’s our choice to follow him or the ways of the world
The number one reason I DO NOT believe in Purgatory is because Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross has cleared my sins under the first Covenant, my sins have been purchased by the blood of the Lamb (Hebrews 2:9/ 9:15). And any sins committed under the second Covenant are still covered by Jesus Christ forever as our High Priest, Mediator, Advocate (1 John 2:1-2/ 1:9/ Hebrews 5:6/ 7:27).
(Hebrews 8:6) mentions one of the better promises under the new covenant which is found in (Hebrews 10:17-18). It wouldn't make a dime of a sense if Christ sacrifice only covered our sins for a certain time period but not the future, because even as Christians we still sin. There is a reason Scripture mentions whole chapters on the fact that He is our High Priest forever (Hebrews 7:17) we can continually be offered forgiveness and cleansing from unrighteous acts (1 John 1:9). Hebrews 12 does not mention Purgatory at all, you really have to be "reading between the gaps of the words" to come up with that ideology.
The Bible is the inspired word of God
1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
1 Corinthians 10:4 “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”
1 Samuel 2:2 “There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
Mark 7:7. “Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”
2 Timothy 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
1 Timothy 4:3 “Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.”
2 Timothy 3:15 “And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”
Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Tit 1:7 - For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God;
Hosea 6:6 “For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.”
Rev 3:16 - So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Better to be a born again Christian and find a good home Bible study group.
Those who believe in purgatory will have the chance to go there, those who don't will rely on God's mercy to be made clean. Isn't that possible?
Classic William W 🏆
Wow William, first time I saw you in this channel.
Absolutely AMEN brother I have no doubt that throughout the word of God so biblical indeed ❤
Doesn't Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. Doesn't the Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our sanctification and salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century.
It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation or sanctification and Jesus didn't see that. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
This is great. Thank you.
HEBREWS 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So did lazarus not ressurect? Or is Paul talking about a general sense?
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Doesn't Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. Doesn't the Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our sanctification and salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century.
It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation or sanctification and Jesus didn't see that. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
Excellent!
Not a single verse in the video?
If Sola Scriptura were true that would be a problem.
Christianity is the faith of Christ and the Apostles and is not based on any writing. When verses are posted, heretics damn themselves by raping scripture.
@@po18guy-s4shmmm so you just make anything up instead ?
Catholicism is abomination.
@@bridgefinit is a huge problem for catholicism. 😂
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Not any problem for us. Long before any of the NT was written, much less canonized, the church was in full operation with its doctrines in full or seed form. And writers tend to not spend much time on things that everyone accepts and understands. Hence, only passing comments about purification and nothing dramatic. God wanted people to come to him through his church and not through a book they did not understand
If e need purgatory does that mean the blood of Christ wasn’t enough for our salvation ?
Brilliant! Thank you!
What's it like to not have a body waiting for the resurrection for hundreds of years? Babies and children? Absurd
If you end up in hell, you will have a physical body with physical pain throughout eternity.
If you end up in purgatory, you will have a physical body with physical suffering till your body becomes resurrected and new.
No less than you say so.
Purgatory: cleansing or punishment? Because the catholic church defines purgatory as a place of temporary suffering and misery, it is quickly greeted with rejection and scorn. Our Lord Jesus paid for the sins and penalties of sin by mankind and so expects full confession on our part, of our sins. As long as we are holding on to our sins, it remains ours and not to Christ. No wonder why He made confession of sins so important. But some will die with kept sins in them and God’s mercy works overtime and purges such souls to complete their journey to heaven.
The reason for purgatory is to allow sinners the opportunity to complete the REPARATION we've made for our sins. Yes, Confession provides the forgiveness, but it does not erase the punishment connected to the sin. There are consequences. If you don't suffer enough on earth to pay this debt... then you finish it in purgatory. Even Jesus gave St. Faustina the option to remain a little longer on earth to suffer, or spend 1 day in purgatory.
@@ihsrosary i agree and am not arguing. The negative view of purgatory stems from what seems as its punitive purpose. It is clear that, as you said, reparations are primarily done in purgatory hence, reparation is cleansing slash unburdening for the soul.
It's a cleansing not a punishment. The Church stays silent on if it happens in an instant or is a place and duration though many go with place and duration. It is God excising our proclivity for sin if we didn't do that ourselves here on Earth. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
What I want to know is why isn't Luke 12:35-48 used more for a defense of purgatory? 47 and 48 pretty much spell out how purgatory works.
Thanks for this video!
Can the souls in heaven pray for the souls in purgatory? If so, why can't the Church leave that task to the souls in heaven? They are likely to have a better awareness on which souls need prayers. Humans can stop praying to the souls in heaven so that the souls in heaven can concentrate on praying for the souls in purgatory.
Or maybe it's all bullshit.
@@davepugh2519watch your language.
We are a family so we pray for each other. So yes they can pray for us and the souls in Purgatory. The souls in Purgatory can pray for us and we can pray for them.
3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?..6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be [a]done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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There is no purgatory in scripture. The standard to enter into life is without spot or blemish. The Holy Spirit baptizes those of us in the dispensation of grace that call upon his name, into Christ. When the Father looks down, he doesn't see you, he sees his perfect Son.
I would rather believe that I need to be purified before meeting God.
One reason why I believe in purgatory? Peter denied knowing Jesus three times, and was asked afterwards to profess his love for Him three times as well. So he didn't have to be punished in purgatory.
What about the thief, who most protestants claim went straight to heaven? Well these protestants failed to see the obvious. He himself (the thief) admitted he deserved the death on the cross for his sins. Bottom line- he carried his own cross for his sins,suffered for his sins while still alive.
And he did not go to heaven! He went to Sheol, the abode of the righteous dead. Heaven was closed until Jesus ascended.
@@po18guy-s4s But...but...didn't Jesus promise him that on that same day he will be in paradise?
@@po18guy-s4s That was the Jewish term the Latin translation was Purgatory. Jewish Encyclopedia even talks about it.
Heaven: Entering with a immaculate perfect white clothing.
Purgatory: You have stains on your white clothes and you can't go to the Eternal Wedding looking like this! You gotta get cleaned up.
hell: You tore and burned a hole in your clothes, there's no saving that.
Heaven: Entering with a immaculate perfect white clothing. all because of what Christ did on the cross to present you without blemish
Purgatory: You have stains on your white clothes and you can't go to the Eternal Wedding looking like this! You gotta get cleaned up.
Purgatory denies Jesus doing the complete clean up of all your sins and there is no remaining 'stains on your clothes , 1 Cor 6:11 all past tense as in Done. When Jesus washes you in His blood shed for you do you really think He missed a stain of sin ?
hell: You tore and burned a hole in your clothes, there's no saving that.
Hell is when you choose to not repent of the direction you are going in life, choosing the world over following Jesus.
No believer will be improperly dressed at the banquet .
None of the verses provide in this video speak of the existence of purgatory. The doctrine of purgatory is found nowhere in the Bible, Jesus never taught about and neither did any of the apostles. The passage of Revelation 21:27 that is provided in the video is in the context of the saints entering into the New Jerusalem BECAUSE their names are written in the Book of Life, not because of purgatory.
The second passage provides, 1 Cor. 12:12-27 is speaking in regards to the spiritual gifts within the body of Christ, it has absolutely nothing to do with purgatory. That entire chapter is speaking solely on the spiritual gift within the church and uses the human body as a metaphor to discuss the interrelation of the various gifts within the church. Trying to use any part of that chapter to appeal to purgatory or its nature (effective prayer for those in purgatory) is terrible exegesis.
You: Jesus never taught about and neither did any of the apostles.
Me: Jesus spoke of some sins (blasphemy against the Holy Spirit) neither being forgiven in the age or the next. That strongly implies that since can be forgiven in the next age and that can't happen in either Heaven or Hell. There must be a third state. And Catholic doctrines do not come from the New Testament because the church was in operation with its doctrines in some form before any of the NT was written. You fail to recognize that the NT came out of the church and not the other way around. And writers do not try to convince people of things they already accept with no issue.
Wow, he just mentioned a bunch of concepts from all around the Bible, fire, suffering, death, heaven, holiness, and more, and acts like if you put it all together you get purgatory, as if context doesn't exist. This is just sad.
That is why it is an introductory lecture to a course, which provide context, nuance, and citations. You didn't notice that? How sad.
Some of us? Try most of us 😅
The title states "where to find purgatory in Scripture" yet not one mention of where to find purgatory in Scripture.
Please show me where the term "The Holy Trinity" is in scripture???
@@peterxuereb9884 not really the term but there are lots of Scriptural support for the Triunity of God. Examples of such passages are 1 John 5:7 (NKJV), Matthew 28:18, Genesis 1:26. The passages give clarity that the One true God is triune in nature. This is not really a good argument to give when it comes to the debate of Scriptural support with regard to the existence of purgatory.
@irishgab04 Why, since we are talking about whether a certain word exists in scripture, I have proven that the term "The Holy Trinity" does not exist in scripture just as the term "Purgatory" does not exist in scripture but scripture itself does speak of "The Truine God" scripture also refers to a place where purification of one's sin's, below are scriptural text and references;
Withhold not kindness from the dead
Sirach 7:33 (Ecclus. 7:37)
Not released until all debts are paid
Mt. 5:26
Some sin may be forgiven in next age
Mt. 12:32
Not released until all debts are paid
Lk. 12:59
Saved but through fire ("there's no fire in heaven!")
1 Cor. 3:15
Wrongdoer will receive recompense
Col. 3:25
Spirits in prison
1 Pt. 3:18-20
@@peterxuereb9884 1 Cor 3:15 passage is about THE Judgment Day where our works, not us, will be tested by fire if those were made out of everlasting foundation or "materials". The spirits in prison you're pertaining to are the fallen angels. Matthew 12:32 speaks of the unpardonable sin that blaspheming the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, even in eternity. Colossians 3:25 is still about Judgment Day.
In comparison with the passages regarding the Triunity of God, those passages are not explicit to the existence of purgatory.
Moreover, in Hebrews 9:27 it says "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment..." and in Luke 23:42-43 at the cross, Jesus answered the thief, ‘I tell you the truth, TODAY you will be with me in paradise’ , and the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31. These passages show that after death judgment is given, either we go to paradise/heaven or hell, no in-between place mentioned. Also, the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ is the propitiation (or satisfaction) for our sins so it is all-sufficient which is why Romans 8:1 says "There is therefore NOW no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." and also His atoning works are finished which is why salvation is by grace through faith, not of us or our works, it is the gift of God. This is why I am joyful of the free gift of salvation because even though I don't deserve it, the Lord Jesus paid it all. Aren't you glad that's the case?
@@peterxuereb9884 Is that good news of salvation? That the atoning works of the Lord Jesus Christ at the cross was insufficient?
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You never learned how to “ rightly divide the word of truth “ 2Tim.2:15 KJV
Jesus purged our sins on the cross, we are now spiritual circumcised, a new creature mown Christ owns us if you are saved. 2Cor.13:5
You must be reborn to be saved trust and have Faith in the blood of Jesus to wash all your sins away past, present and future sins. Believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. 1Cor.15:1-4
There is no biblical evidence of purgatory, That one has to burn to purify one’s self.
“Every man's work shall be manifest. For the day of the Lord shall declare it, because it shall be revealed in fire. And the fire shall try every man's work, of what sort it is.” (1 Cor 3:13, DRC)
“And he touched my mouth, and said: Behold this hath touched thy lips, and thy iniquities shall be taken away, and thy sin shall be cleansed.” (Isa 6:7, DRC)
Does kjv tell you that the body and blood of Christ are symbolic only. “My flesh is true food and my blood true drink”. Jesus knew Protestants would try to twist his words.
@@reedrichards1820 and few verses down in John chapter 6, Jesus says "63 It is the Spirit who gives life; THE FLESH PROFITS NOTHING. THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK TO YOU ARE SPIRIT, and they are life."
@@StanleyPinchak 1Cor. 3 Is talking about your works, bad works burn up, good works are for rewards.
Isa.6:7 Is Old Testament and does not apply to the body of Christ.
If you deny dividing the word 2: 2:15 KJV than Lev.18 says kill an animal for a sin offering.
@@reedrichards1820 If you read one verse and close the book you will not understand. 1Cor.10:4 ( We all drink the “spiritual drink” and that drink is the Rock and that rock is Christ.
Scripture is very explicitly clear on this subject; Paul says, 'To be absent from the body is to be present with Christ,' praying for people in purgatory makes no sense. This fact is dramatically highlighted in Matthew 27:51, when just after Christ's death, the veil in the Temple which separated the Holy of Holies is torn from top to bottom. The implication is clear-Jesus has given us full access to God. We are redeemed 'fully' through the atoning merit of Christ, not half way. Purgatory, is a man centered teaching taking away the efficacy of redemption, doing away the necessity of the cross for full redemption.
When we come to know Christ, the veil has been lifted. The church is considered to be Jesus’ bride. Traditionally, when a bride walks down an aisle in a church, she is wearing a veil; a veil which prevents her from seeing the groom clearly and becoming close to him. When Jesus’ bride (Us) has her veil lifted in heaven, she shall see things and under stand things so much more than she does now, and she now has nothing between her and her groom (Jesus) that prevents the closest possible relationship that the two could have. This basically means that when we get to heaven, we shall see things and understand things so much more than we do now, and we will no longer have a barrier of residual sin between Jesus and us.
Why did the Apostolic Fathers, and counsels continually come to the conclusion of limbo/purgatory?
@@jdub3999 where did you get that from?
Paul also prayed for Onesiphorus after he died . He prayed that his soul be ready on last day .
2 Timothy 1:16-18 (RSV): “May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains, [17] but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me - [18] may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day - and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.” (cf. 4:19)
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
Matthew 5:26
Many SAINTS throughout history were SHOWN Purgatory.🕊️
St. Vibia Perpetua (1st Century AD) saw her brother in Purgatory, then again after leaving Purgatory.👼🏼🧒🏽👼🏻🤍🐑🕊️
St. Gregory the Great, St. Teresa of Avila, St. John Bosco, St. Terese of Liseux + many others are known as intercessors that can help usher souls out of Purgatory + into Heaven.🕊️
PS - - this fella William is a real good speaker 😎👍🏼👍🏼🕊️
God has His own chosen ones SAINTS...People shouldn't call others Saints...Jesus said it is not your role to make saints on Earth...Only one God in Heaven is Saint. Beside even Lucifer can appear as an angel of light to deceive many.
@@miriambochenek9083 Sounds like he deceived you.
@@miriambochenek9083 Romans 1:7 To all those in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints
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No saint is canonized without two independent miracles so God is the one who chooses.
@@bridgefinThat's not true.
Amen and Amen!
Every time someone tries to prove that purgatory is biblical I become more convinced it's not!
@@GodLovesAll-j8j Everytime a Protestant says Mary is just a woman God burns with anger.
I have heard that this life is “school" .What we dont learn here, we will learn “there”! I just pray I “pass”! I follow Jesus and Pray!! It makes sense to me there are different levels. I do not have the education or intelligence of Dr Scott Hahn and so many others but I am loving God !
Yes, purification is connected to purgatory in the sense that some interpretations of biblical passages suggest a period of purification after death for those destined for heaven.
Purgatory, which is a state of purification where souls are cleansed of any remaining imperfections before entering heaven.
It’s not in the bible don’t mislead people
WHY PRAY FOR THE DEAD???...BECAUSE THOSE IN HEAVEN DON'T NEED PRAYERS AND THOSE IN HELL CAN'T USE PRAYERS...THE VIRGIN MARY MENTIONED PURGATORY TO THE CHILDREN IN FATIMA...GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME🙏🙏🙏
Nope.
If we die in mortal sin, we chose to be separated from God. He honors our choices for eternity. There’s no hope left.
If we die in Venial sin, we have to be purged of it to enter Heaven, as nothing impure can enter. Purgatory is a complete cleansing of our souls on the way to Heaven. We’re to pray for the souls in Purgatory to receive comfort & be released from their sins.
1Cor3:15, Mt5:25-26, 1Pet3:18-20, 1Jn 5:16-17, Jn19:11, Rev21:27, 2Macc 12:43-46
Jesus saves us baptized with The Holy Spirit & Holy Water from original sin. Sins committed after Baptism have to be confessed, receive absolution & Penance to serve to be forgiven by God. That’s why He instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation. He exhorts through His Priests as they are in persona Christi when enacting His Sacraments. They are the only ones He gave His authority & power to. 2 Cor 5:18-20, Jn 20:21-23, Mt 9:1-8, 16:18-19, 18:17-18.
I have read scripture completely several times and have found nothing to support the doctrine of purgatory. 1 John 1:9 takes care of sinful failures after conversion.
Augustine is not "great." He imported many things from Gnosticism and polluted theology for centuries. Both Roman Catholicism and Calvinism are shot through with Augustine's many heresies.
EDIT: Was in a bad mood. Millions read scripture and SEE Catholic doctrine. Are you alone correct in NOT seeing it?
@@po18guy-s4s Pointing out a fact is not egotistic. The RCC pushes many doctrines it claims are biblically based when it turns out the passages cited do not support the doctrine. Purgatory is one of those doctrines.
Neither is Trinity or Consubstantial yet most protestants agree with those doctrines. The fact is doctrines can be eluded to without being explicitly referenced by name. Purgatory is the Latin translation.
This isn't about sin debt it's about holiness and our inclination towards sin. If we don't deal with that here on Earth God will excise it from us either in an instant or in duration. You can see this in 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
@@kisstune I am aware of the doctrine of the Trinity and it can not be escaped. Unitarians are heretics. Purgatory is not even alluded to as is the trinity. One can pursue holiness in this life, and through the empowering Holy Spirit it is possible to attain.
1 Cor 3:15 is speaking of the judgment at the Judgement Seat of Christ, which all of us will stand. It is not talking about purgatory.
The main point of protestantism vs purgatory is that God made a defective man. Man did not choose to exist much less be defective. God owes man his salvation and sanctification. This is why protestants reject original sin, free will, basically all sacraments and purgatory among others. Where else can they get the confidence for their impunity?
Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Hebrews 9:25-26 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another- He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but NOW, ONCE at the end of the ages, He has appeared to PUT AWAY SIN by the sacrifice of Himself.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore NOW NO CONDEMNATION to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
@@irishgab04 1. We MUST COME FORWARD to the throne of Grace
2. TO OBTAIN; hence WE venture on our own desire to receive God’s grace;
3. Grace comes through faith. Faith comes by hearing (preaching) the word of God BUT WE MUST BE DOERS OF THE WORD and not merely hearers;
4. Christ is a sacrifice ONCE AND FOR??? ALL TIME. All time means always and every time hence, “do this in REMEMBRANCE of me”; “as often as we eat this bread and drink this cup…”
5. You cannot deny that a doctrine of impunity exists in protestantism by claiming these verses. Being christian may have saved you from God’s wrath and condemnation THROUGH THE LAW, but if you are weighed, measured and found wanting, you will be fixed. For nothing imperfect or broken will not be fixed by God and our cooperation is necessary for Him to do so..
@gbnessdot96 was a joyless gospel preached to you that has made you judgmental and quarrelsome? where's the extension of God's grace and love for others in your words? Where's the fruit of the Holy Spirit?
Instead of using words such as "impunity" just be gracious and kind. Surely, the Lord would prefer lovingkindess over winning arguments.
@@irishgab04 when scriptures is thrown at catholics with biased and false interpretations, we give whomsoever that threw it at us its right, unbiased, truthful interpretation. It is obligatory. Same with non catholics who may say, “well, we are right and you are of the devil because Exodus says you worship so and so, idolaters…” because it is obligatory for them and believe to be true. “Impunity “ is not an unkind or an unchristian word. In this context it means immune or excused from punishment as direct result of their sins which clearly all protestants believe based on that Jesus had taken all of it to Himself so that no one will have to pay for themselves. Was to raise this point harshness? No.
I am currently studying Christian Ministry and Theology, and I watch and comment on many different pastors. What is the biblical difference between Purgatory in Christianity vs Catholics? For Christians purgatory is purification before death, or before rising from the dead. Purification and sanctification prior to joining our heavenly family. How is this different in catholic faith?
Most Protestant denominations do not believe in Purgatory, except Anglicans of Anglo-Catholic origin and Lutherans of High Lutheranism. Catholicism, which is Christianity, affirms the truth that Purgatory is what happens to souls, who are already forgiven of their sins and going to Heaven but still need to be purified of the effects of sin. No sinner who has not atoned for their sins is in purgatory. Purgatory is for saints who still need to be purified of the effects of sin before entering Heaven. You can learn more about Purgatory in our series on Emmaus Academy: my.stpaulcenter.com/play/purgatory ! God Bless!
It's not a matter of Christian vs Catholic.. it's a matter of what the Scripture says.... Jesus Sacrifice (death) provide us forgiveness of sin (John 3:16), His resurrection and life save us from wrath & torture (Romans 5:8-10/1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He is our High Priest and Advocate forever. The Holy Spirit seal us for eternal life (Ephesians 1:13-14). I don't understand how the concept of purgatory plays a role in our salvation if it's not mentioned literally or figuratively at all in Scripture or the traditions of early church before the 6th or is it the 16th century.
It would be pointless If there were another way that gives us true salvation and Jesus didn't know. According to Scripture the belief in a purgatory is taking the grace of God in vain (Ephesians 5:23-27) and accepting a doctrine not supported by the word of God (Galatians 1:8-9).
If anyone wants to know if there’s a purgatory just listen to what Jesus Christ said to the Jews and said that as Jonah was in the whales belly for three days so will the Son of man be in the heart of the earth for three days think about it and meditate where is Jesus Christ talking about?🤔
- 📘 Purgatory is explained as a postmortem purification necessary because nothing impure can enter heaven according to Biblical teachings.
- 🔄 William Albrecht discusses the misconceptions and differences between Protestant and Catholic views on purgatory.
- 🏛 The Catholic Church holds that purification is required for inward purity before entering heaven, as supported by church teachings and Biblical passages.
- ✝ Protestants view Christ's death as eliminating the need for postmortem purification, whereas Catholics see chastisement as part of God's love.
- 🔥 Purgatory involves purification which could be uncomfortable, though the exact nature of this process is not defined.
- 🙏 Prayers from the living can assist those in purgatory due to the interconnectedness of the Church, described as militant, suffering, and triumphant.
- 👼 Individuals in purgatory are seen as saved and cannot lose salvation, needing purification out of love rather than legal obligation.
- 🚪 The sacrament of confession is crucial for forgiveness and is tied to the concept of purgatory, helping believers grow in holiness and prepare for heavenly purity.
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We were justified from sin to work no longer after the flesh but in the Spirit. (Rom 8:1) in as such, there's no condemnation towards us. If you are genuinely saved, then there's no going back to live in your sinful ways. And if that's the case, then the whole purgatory statement falls apart. Sanctification is the process which the Spirit of God takes us through on this earth that positions us to be like Christ. You guys are making the works of Christ and His Spirit given to us of no effect by these teachings.
You: If you are genuinely saved, then there's no going back to live in your sinful ways.
Me: If you are genuinely saved, then you are genuinely dead. And once declared as saved the question is are you perfectly pure or do you need cleansing.
This is completely false teaching.
@@bridgefin Explain what you mean by dead.
@@po18guy-s4s that's a cliffhanger... What's the better accurate teaching.
@@Thebig_KC
No one is actually saved in any final sense until they stand before Christ at the end of their lives (dead) and are pronounced as saved.
DEVOTION TO THE SAINTS THE ANGELS OF HEAVEN POOR SOULS IN PURGATORY ROSARY DIVINE MERCY LIVE PEACEFULLY WITH NEIGHBORS ALL MY PRIEST FRIENDS FOR THE POPE KEEP TEN COMMANDMENTS THANKSGIVING HONOR ADORATION TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IN THE BLESSED SACRAMENT GRATITUDE TO THE GUARDIAN ANGELS READ BIBLE
Yes but brother Sam shamoun needs to stop glorifying the Eastern Orthodox Church there’s no salvation inside of it!!!
Where did you get this? They are a true Apostolic Church. Their Sacraments are VALID! Their succession VALID. Pray for unity!
Wrong, Jesus did not find the Eastern Orthodox Church, they broke away from the Catholic Church a thousand years later similar to the Protestant churches…
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Please don't talk about Greek without having a D Min or PhD and actual education in the language.
So Jesus didn't suffer enough on the cross, we have to suffer more to make his suffering complete and sufficient. We need to complete his suffering cause his atoning work on the cross was missing our suffering!! BLASPHEMY!!
Two examples, If a child breaks hiw neighbour's window while playing, he is guilty of it, he would need to go ask forgiveness from his neigbour, who will most likely say "sure kid, you were playing, I forgive you", but that doesn´t fix that window, in order to set things right the kid maybe with help from his father, needs to help the neighbour to replace the window for a new one and commit to be more careful next time so he doesn´t break a window.
Another one, think your life is a wall on a house and for every sin you commit, you put a nail on it. When Jesus forgives your sins, He takes away each nail, but once you die and meet Him in person, would you want to give Him a wall full of holes (each hole as the consequence of your sins and the attachment to sinful conduct). Maybe you would, but if God is infinitely just, then you would like to patch the holes and paint the wall before you give it to the Lord.
That is what purgatory is for, you don´t need to complete Jesus suffering, but every time we lie, steal, cheat, have sex out of wedlock, use the Lord's name in vain, kill someone or any other sin, there are consequences for others and for ourselves and we just don´t know how far they can go. So Jesus takes the guilt from us, but those consequences for our actions are still there and we must make a penitence for it and be cleansed of that capacity to sin again if we are to enter Heaven.
@@richardmh1987
Jesus died for all our sins on the cross! He said it is finished before he delivered his spirit. When you thru faith become born again, your sins are forgiven!
Hebrews 8:12
"For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more".
However, if we sin, apostle john said :
1 John 1:9
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
When we sin against each the apostle Paul said:
Colossians 3:13
"Bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive"
Jesus also said in this matter:
if “your brother or sister has something against you … First go and be reconciled to them” (Matthew 5:23-24).
There are no additional punishments you need to endure in the after life. That is a man made teaching resulting from lack of faith and undermining the magnitude of the price Jesus paid on the cross for our sins.
@@richardmh1987
I don’t think you get it at all.
Paul writes in Roman 6:23:
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”
**Jesus paid the full price for your sins and mine by his own blood. Those who put their full trust and faith in Jesus, are fully and completely bought with his precious blood!
Jesus said “It is finished” before he gave up his spirit. The debt has been fully paid!
Peter wrote:
1 Peter 3:18
"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God
He also writes:
1 Peter 2:24
"He himself bore our sins' in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness"
Paul wrote:
Romans 5:8
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us
He also wrote in Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law
***Your good deeds are like dirty and filthy rags to God. The only way to get in heaven is ONLY thru faith in Jesus’s work; never yours or mine. You could not begin to pay your debt and if you ever rely on your good deeds, Paul said you would be cursed. You would be turning down the precious payment Jesus made on your behalf! Its an insult to God to try to offer your filthy deeds as a payment for your sins on top of what Jesus did on the cross. If you think you can help God atone for your sins or do him a favor, you will never see the kingdom of God.
Isaiah 64:4 says:
For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
@@richardmh1987
I don’t think you get it at all!
Paul writes in Roman 6:23:
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”
**Jesus paid the full price for your sins and mine by his own blood. We those who put their full trust and faith in Jesus were fully and completely bought with his precious blood.
Jesus said “It is finished” before he gave up his spirit. The debt has been fully paid!1
Peter wrote:
1 Peter 3:18
"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God"
and he wrote :
1 Peter 2:24
"He himself bore our sins' in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness"
Paul wrote:
Romans 5:8
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us"
Paul wrote in Galatians 3:10:
"For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law"
***Your good deeds are like dirty and filthy rags to God. The only way to get in heaven is ONLY thru Jesus’s work; never yours or mine. You could not begin to pay your debt and if you ever rely on your good deeds, Paul said you would be cursed. You would be turning down the precious payment Jesus made on your behalf! Its an insult to God to try to offer your filthy deeds as a payment for your sins on top of what Jesus did on the cross. If you think you can help God atone for your sins or do him a favor, you will never see the kingdom of God.
Isaiah 64:4 says:
"For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away."
@@richardmh1987 I don’t think you get it at all.
Paul writes in Roman 6:23:
“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”
**Jesus paid the full price for your sins and mine by his own blood. We those who put their full trust and faith in Jesus were fully and completely bought with his precious blood.
Jesus said “It is finished” before he gave up his spirit. The debt has been fully paid!1
Peter wrote:
1 Peter 3:18
"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God"
and he wrote :
1 Peter 2:24
"He himself bore our sins' in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness"
Paul wrote:
Romans 5:8
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us"
Paul wrote in Galatians 3:10:
"For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law"
***Your good deeds are like dirty and filthy rags to God. The only way to get in heaven is ONLY thru Jesus’s work; never yours or mine. You could not begin to pay your debt and if you ever rely on your good deeds, Paul said you would be cursed. You would be turning down the precious payment Jesus made on your behalf! Its an insult to God to try to offer your filthy deeds as a payment for your sins on top of what Jesus did on the cross. If you think you can help God atone for your sins or do him a favor, you will never see the kingdom of God.
Isaiah 64:4 says:
"For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away."
How do you know when a soul is released from purgatory and can quit praying for them?
No prayer is wasted and God can apply that prayer to another needing soul in the body of Christ.
3 scripture versus WHY we need purgatory. 1 . " nothing unclean shall enter it ( heaven )." Rev 21: 27 . 2. " Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect. " Matthew 5: 28. 3. " Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God. " Matthew 5: 8. To see God in the face ie. The Beatific Vision, can only happen if we are perfect in every way. Thank God for His mercy. Vivo Christo Rey.
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How do you know if someone went to purgatory or somewhere else are you GOD?
LoL 😂🤣😂 Great video; Where can I find purgatory in the Bible? Albrecht spends over 10 minutes to hide the fact that it isn’t in the Bible.
It is hinted at and assumed in the bible.
@@bridgefin No it isn’t. Otherwise, why didn’t Albrecht or you provide a verse if it really is in the Bible?
@@ameribeaner
It isn't in the bible in neon lights. It is hinted at.
Start with Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure gets into Heaven. So if you are truthful you will admit that you are a sinner. So you are excluded from Heaven unless there is a method to purify you before you try to enter.
Then go to 2 Maccabees 12...oops, you guys threw that away because it implied that there was a place where prayer was effective after one's death.
Then Matthew 12:32 "And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come ". Hmmm. Sins are forgiven in the age to come? That can't happen in either Heaven or Hell so it implies a third state.
Then Matthew 5:24-25, Jesus says: " Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny ".
I Corinthians 3:11-15 may well be the most straightforward text in all of Sacred Scripture when it comes to Purgatory:
For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble-each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
The word "purgatory" is not mentioned once. However, a third place is and a place of purification is, and that prayers can benefit the dead is. All of that fits like puzzle pieces into the Catholic understanding of purgatory.
I missed the part where you showed it was Biblical.
What a dreadful excuse for apologetics!
Purgatory exists because a catholic says so (St Thomas Aquinas)
There are 3 different stages (militant, suffering and triumphant) because the catholic religion says so.
A good idea would be to quote SPECIFIC scriptures that point unquestionably at "purgatory"
You won't because that state does not exist.
Your relationship with God is set upon your death.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
There is ZERO mention of a "cleansing after death", or anything similar, in scripture anywhere!
In the Book of Revelation it says that nothing unclean shall enter in. However, in the KJV, it says that everything unclean shall enter in.
@@georgepierson4920 This is the KJV verse:
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
This one also from the KJV
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Bottom line: there is nowhere in Scripture that states everything unclean shall enter the Kingdom of God. In fact, quite the opposite.
@@brucedavenport7016 And yet, Protestants reject the doctrine of Purgatory for that very reason.
What a troll. bruce, you are a known pathological hater and troll. May the Lord have mercy on you for dividing.
@@brucedavenport7016 bruce, your ego is sending you to hell.
Gee, so much talking! Get to the point!!
I thought he got right to it
I would say this is painful to listen to. I am curious about the messed up interpretation of forgiveness of sins. How many of your sins, you Catholics are retained by a priest? And why?
Retained due to lack of repentance. The pillar and foundation of truth does not mess up the interpretation.
Painful? HELL is painful! Peter held the sins of Ananias and Sapphira bound - they failed to repent and both dropped dead. Acts 5.
@@bridgefin You know what, you right ~ regardless of misinterpretation of John 20:21. How do priests retains sins when an unrepentant person most likely won't show up in confessionals?
@@po18guy-s4s Peter sat in a confessional waiting for Ananias and his wife to confess their sins?
@@Nolongeraslave
You: How do priests retains sins when an unrepentant person most likely won't show up in confessionals?
Me: Those people are likely doomed. But sins can be retained in the confessional when the sinner refused to repent of the sin. You want examples?
a. Woman states that she had an abortion but says that she is not sorry because she has a right to do what she wants to her body. That mortal sin is not forgiven but retained. She can be set free if she decides to repent and requests absolution.
b. Young man confesses that he had sexual relations with girlfriend. Turns out that they live together. Priest retains that sin until the man comes back and tells the priest that they are no longer living together. Can't be sorry for something that you have set yourself up to do again.
You: Peter sat in a confessional waiting for Ananias and his wife to confess their sins?
Me: Dead people don't go to the confessional.
Nice talk but there where no pews back than. Pews where actually a Protestant invention
Oh stop it. If purgatory is biblical, then you believe God speaks with marbles in his mouth and hid that doctrine in-between the lines waiting for people like Willy boy to come on the scene and tell us what he REALLY means!
The same goes for no mention of a papal office, no mention of papal infallibility, no mention of a sacerdotal priesthood, no indulgences, no Marian dogmas, no mass, and on and on!
What you're proposing is a religion desperate to find justification in Scripture, and it will never be so.
Good day.
Get lost
And good day, sir!!!
@@Castellano87Why be so rude with your comment, It is just as easy to disagree and make your point.
The papacy is a gift from God
@@andreeattieh2963 where is that found?
People read your bibles yourselves so you are not deceived. Come to your own conclusions. The Bible clearly states that Christs righteousness is imputed to us through our faith in him, is this guy saying Christs righteousness is not good enough?. “It is finished” Christ said right before he died, not it’s almost finished now it’s up to you. Purgatory was a way to make money the Catholic Church is a business.
2 Corinthians 5:21
You: “It is finished” Christ said right before he died,
Me: Show me from Scripture what the "it" refers to.
Where does Jesus say what you just said? Check your EGO! It will kill your soul.
@@po18guy-s4s please Read 2 Corinthians 5:21 and think about what it says in reference to Christs sacrifice and what it did for us in Gods eyes. It is pretty clear. There are other references but this is very clear.
@@po18guy-s4s Yes we should check our egos. John 19:30. This is why I say read your bibles yourself so you know these things and are not deceived.
Purgatory is a denial of Colossian 2:13-14 and I John 1:9
Help me out here: I need the chapter and verse where the bible teaches that Christians should be flaming ASSHOLES.
Thank you in advance.
When you're dead, you're dead. End of.
Purgatory is an insult and slap in the face to the Lord Jesus. His shed blood on the cross is sufficient to cleansers of our sins. Jesus taught heaven and hell not Purgatory.
You miss the point. Christ blood is sufficient for our sins but with our freewill we can still have a penchant for sin and if we don't excise it from us we can't enter Heaven. Fortunately God is a merciful God and in death will excise it from us if we still have that attachment rather then condemning us to Hell. 1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
@@kisstune the point is there is no Purgatory.
It's frightening to think of how many are led astray by this nonsense.
It is frightening how many are ego-maniacs and self-proclaimed oracles of God.
It's God's mercy not nonsense unless God's mercy is nonsense.
It's about our holiness and attachment to sin.
If we remove our attachment to sin then Purgatory is not needed, but if we don't then God will remove it from us either instantly or in duration.
1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
@@kisstune This "jefflofton" must think he has a direct connection to God.
I do not believe in purgatory.
The Lord chastises us here on earth, so that we have no need to be chastised in heaven. The one, who ist not chastised, ist also not of Lord and will face judgement.
And in the heaven, the carnate body will be transformed, removing the sin forever from us, so we can at last live without struggles according to Christ.
God bless you Mr. Albrecht.
1 Cor 11,29-32 & Heb 12,7-8 & 1 Cor 15,51-56
1Cor 11:29-32: 29 For he that eateth and drinketh, eateth and drinketh judgment unto himself, if he discern not the body. 30 For this cause many among you are weak and sickly, and not a few sleep. 31 But if we discerned ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.
Heb 12:7-8: 7 It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
1Cor 15:51-56: 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy victory? O death, where is thy sting? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the power of sin is the law:
Nonsense. You just made up a new religion.
You claim you don't believe in Purgatory yet go on and state Purgatory's purpose.
Yes there is no chastisement in Heaven. We actually believe that sin including original sin is removed in baptism and a person is born again, adopted by God, and sealed with the Seal of Life by the Holy Spirit. What is left for us is the inclination to sin so if we sin we get absolution from God in the Sacrament of Reconciliation. If we don't remove the inclination to sin here God will remove it from us. That removal and transformation IS Purgatory.
It sounds like, per your own power and authority you ORDER God to accept you. I thought God was no respecter of men???
@@kisstune Thank you for your response.
What I was referring to is the process of sanctification. Through the Holy Spirit we learn to hate sin and be more Christ-like or spiritually mature. If we understand our trespassing and try to overcome the sin, God does not have a need to chastise or judge us, but if not - He does, like the father, who teaches his child to behave. Therefore the chastisement is a help from our Father to go and to sin no more.
That's said every child of God is having a struggle within his self with his sinful nature. In this struggle, the child of God will be always willing to obey God, maybe not always successfully, but the inclination will be to do that. I must add, that this inclination is not based on feelings, because they also can be a temptation. This struggle will end, when sinful nature will be dealt with.
If you struggle, it is already a good sign. Roman 7 talks about that at the end of the chapter.
Now in spiritually maturing, or becoming a Christ-like, there are 3 phases.
A child, a young man and a father according to 1. John 2,12-14.
Children have their sin forgiven and have Father in Heaven, the young men have overcome sin and can recognise devils temptations and so on.
What I am saying, if you are of Christ, you will not be able to live in sin, but have struggles.
If you have struggles with sin, it means you are on the way to God, keep up this good fight, you are not first and not last and you can overcome.
Therefore, the only problem is our sinful nature, but spiritually we are born again.
With the sinful nature will be dealt with, when we stay in a good fight until the end - because you are on the way to God, and our bodies at the end will be also born again, removing the cause to have struggles - the transformation. There is no need for purgatory after death.
I am sorry, english is not my native language.
It is not my intention to have right, but maybe help on the way.
God bless you.
False.