Does the Alamo Lie About Texas History? Reaction to Cynical Historian
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2023
- Popular history TH-camr, Cynical Historian, recently uploaded a video about two visits to the Alamo. (His full video is here: • How History Museums Li... - please be kind in his comments should you choose to make one!)
In his video, he says the Alamo's exhibits exclude Hispanics and are silent on Confederate occupation. He says the Daughters of the Republic of Texas still run the site. We look at those claims and compare them with our experience with the Alamo over the years.
For anyone who would like to view the full exhibit that was on display in 2022 (and check our work), we've compiled all of the images here:
www.texashistorytrust.org/wat...
Apparently The Cynical Historian is a product of 'new age' education ... he's judging EVERYTHING through a lens of race and looking for offense in every action ... What a sad little man he must be - - This is my first visit to your channel, and I am quite impressed
Glad to have you here, Lauri! Sadly, more and more of the historians hatched in our universities emerge as activists rather than professionals who study the past objectively.
@@texashistorytrust Hopefully enough of the old knowledge survives to keep the truth alive. I don't mind finding out that my previous beliefs were incorrect, but I absolutely demand the proof before I simply swallow an alternate interpretation.
I wonder who paid the Cynical Historian I suspect he is being bankrolled.
Studying Texas history one has to look through the lens of race because everything related to Anglo American interpretation of history is written from their racist way they think and live.
I automatically discounted what he was going to say when I noticed the DNC placard displayed behind him. He is only interested in enough history to support a particular narrative. I question his degree.
Juan Seguin needs more space in Texas History books.
His coverage is extensive.
@@Mark-vm7sc It wasn't when I was in school.
We addressed on this channel a professor who claims that our textbooks contain “chapter after chapter” on Stephen F. Austin. So we bought the textbooks to investigate. In reality, it’s 8 pages in one chapter. Now I’m curious about the Seguins.
I know some of his descendants we’ve been neighbors for over sixty years. Their dad was one of Juan Seguin’s great grandsons. He was a tall man with a fair complexion and bluish green eyes. I believe the Seguins were of Spanish descent.
The Anglos were trying to kill the traitor. Karma
I'm a 5th generation Texan and the Cynical HIstorian has no idea what the tenets of historical research involve. I heartily applaud your response to Cynical Historian/Dolt, but he's not worth a single minute of your expertise.
Thank you so much for your thorough work in this matter. It seems to me that the fella who goes by the Cynical Historian should have his degree revoked for his lack of scholarly work in this matter. This guy may be cynical, but he certainly is biased.
Social progressive leftists don't have any credibility.
Some historians search for knowledge.
Some pursue an agenda.
This young man is trying to be part of a movement. Hopefully someday he will realize his error and go in search of knowledge.
I'm a new subscriber. Native Texan always looking for new sources of info.
This gentleman you're referring to is one of many who are IMO attempting to force our well documented TX history narrative off course. Even my little Texas History book from the early 1900s makes reference to problems between Mexican and non-mexican settlers during the Empresario period when MX offered huge swaths of land to mostly Anglo men who could bring permanent inhabitants to the space along the El Camino Real.
The goal was to civilized this zone of travel from NOLA to Santa Fe to inhibit Indian raids on trade between the two locations.
Mexico and the Vatican had sacrificed many young, charismatic priests who inevitably failed at establishing missions for the same purpose.
I delight in your bold resistance to "wokeness" in this era of offering even the politically driven history revisionists a place on the platforms.
Texas is currently a popular target because typing it into a browser brings in millions of clicks. Most of the "historians" are perverting our history. Thanks for pointing out their foolishness. I've recently realized it could be a full time gig.
this is called american mythology people much more credited than her have already debunked all this nonsense only texans care to fight it and fun fact the texans were fighting for slavery lol
I have made visits to Alamo several times over course of 50 years. I learned 50x more in this video than I did in all of those visits. Thank you!!
Such high praise! You are incredibly kind. I hope you view it differently on your next visit. The Travis letter is returning next month!
many years ago, my wife and i were on a train from Dover back to London. It turned out, we were on a "local" train and two young men helped us get onto the express back to London. All they wanted to talk about was TEXAS! They wanted to visit the Alamo!
I remember my parents taking me to the Alamo when I was a child and I freaked out from all the modern buildings surrounding it. I never pictured it in a city environment. Blew my mind. The movie set in Bracketville, Texas is how I always pictured it - surrounded by Texas prairie and Mexican soldiers. 😅
I was very surprised and then had a laugh when several years ago, a colleague told me that he and his family went to visit the Alamo whilst on holiday from England. Apparently the family in their hire car were riding around in San Antonio area but could not see the site. They eventually stopped to ask for directions and were very disappointed that the Alamo that they been looking for was in the middle of a shopping mall!😅. They were obviously expecting the Hollywood scene!!
@@lindaperkins2221 they thought it would be like Stonehenge, and honestly it probably ought to be. A sacred site surrounded by so much hustle and bustle isn’t really sacred IMO.
I will say my family and I visited the Alamo in 2002 and were disappointed with the fact we could not take pictures of the inside. I am so glad that rule has since changed. I will have to take some time to revisit it one day soon.
Just wanna say thanks. I visited the Alamo maybe around 2010... hope to make it back. I'm an Alabama implant here in the Socialist Republic of Austin btw. Btw, extra thanks... I came into this expecting you'd pretty much be making the video Cynical Historian made. Nice to hear you counter it instead.
I’m glad you chose to click it anyway, BB. I’m sure Austinites within earshot burst into flames 😂 Activist historians have a standard set of talking points on the Alamo and that’s what I expected from this man’s video. I was blown away by the next-level inaccuracy so…here we are.
When you decide to brave 35 and visit again, other than the Church, you won’t recognize the area from 2010. No more Ripley’s mess across the Plaza. Streets are closed to vehicular traffic. New collections center. New outdoor exhibits. All for the better, but change is jarring even when it’s good.
This dude needs to come out of the basement and undergo an EXTENSIVE Mental Evaluation.
Thank you for using FACTS to disprove an individual that considers himself an historian when clearly he gets most of his education from back of a cheerios box.
As a Black American, I want to thank you for sharing the truth about the real history of the Alamo which was not taught to us while we were in school one-sided because this is part of history that they do not want us all to know about which is truly sad. After all, history does have a way of repeating itself. Book writer and author Michael Welch tells the whole truth about why the Battle of Alamo was fought then we were led to believe the John Wayne version. Thank you for keeping it REAL!!!🙏🏿💪🏿✊🏿👍🏿
What part of the video did you find most surprising?
To what are you referring?
A clear thinking regarding history interpretation , congratulations. Enrique Zavala m.d.
This guy has got to get out of his mommy’s basement and take his comic book collection with him…
Thanks for the info, love all info on The Almo.
I visited the Alamo 25 or so years ago. I was disappointed that much of the site no longer existed and had been swallowed up by the city surrounding it. That said, I was able to picture in my mind how it was laid out. I enjoyed it very much. I am pleased to know they have done much to improve the whole experience. Hopefully I'll be able to get back and see it again.
You logically and successfully countered the inaccuracies of the Cynical Historian (who is cynical but not a historian) and did so in a methodical and systematic manner. Apparently, he views everything through the lens of racism - which is not as prevalent now as certain activists would have us believe. Sadly, the Cynical Historian is a product of our current dismal education system. "We are not makers of history. We are made by history." Martin Luther King, Jr.
WELL SAID, the propaganda IS real
You people really bastardize Martin Lurther King, Jr. quotes when it suits you. Please stop.
@@Tonia-ns2zv"You people" 😯
I feel like it’s someone else here that view everything through racism… 😂
@@mysterymotor the irony right?
The end of your rebuttal video addressing the young man. Reminded me of my mother talking to me when I did something wrong. I felt like I was 2 inch’s tall when she was done.
Im related to Blas Maria Herrera; The Paul Revere of The Alamo..My ancestors were Spanish Cowboys here by land grants...
The Alamo was occupied by terrorists who were on Mexican territory, not defenders. Why remember the Alamo? It was a great Mexican victory. San Jacinto was like 911. The Mexican soldiers were asleep. It was no battle. War crime!
Poor thing. I can tell you aren’t well. I hope you get the help you need.
@@Mark-vm7sc Let me guess? You think you are a doctor ? Either that or a total nut job,because, you don’t even know me. Doctor Turdbrain. Get the plank out of your own eye first!
I’ll pray for your recovery.
@@Mark-vm7sc Not a doctor, a minister now ?. Blow it out your exhaust pipe. Don’t forget to pray for yourself first sicko.
@@Mark-vm7sc do yourself a favor and pray for yourself!
I am a 100%Texan Remember the Alamo
Great presentation and right on point, as always. Thank you for fighting to keep our Texas heritage true and not what the pseudo historians want it to be. They just don’t get it.
Thank you, Jon. Some of the DO get it and are taught by their advisors to despise it. Activist historians suck.
I don't know if you done so already, but I would like to see a video debunking Forget The Alamo. I myself have never read it, but I have noticed a lot of historians take issue with it.
Sadly, too many professors of Texas history championed the book and use it in their college courses. Those who thought it was full of errors didn’t speak out publicly and even if they’d wanted to, the Texas media shielded the FTA authors from criticism. We published a brief fact check of it and I made one video on it. (This was before Texas History Trust existed, so it’s on another channel.)
th-cam.com/video/YtSQUwHnW2I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-9jcedti4Aam7ZUX
Fact check is here:
texasreader.com/2021/07/forget-the-alamo-lies/
I offered Chris Tomlinson the opportunity to write a rebuttal in defense of his work and offered to publish it. He responded by blocking me on social media 😂
To me, nothing is more gratifying than listening to two legitimate historians differ on elements of history. When only one side of a perspective is heard, you never know whether the historiography is accurate and/or biased.To hear multiple views presented by professionals, you are sure to come closer to the reality of the event. Thank you.
I wouldn’t call that guy a legitimate historian. A legitimate historian is one who marshals the facts and speaks the truth not one who sees it through a narrow mindset like for example basing everything on race.
Sorry that so called cynical historian is not a true historian. He is another of the current people that want to change history to meet the leftist narrative of education taught today.
Hey Sonny Boy or should I say Cynical Historian, don't you feel stupid now ?
I visited the site sometime around 2007. I remember that the ruins, such as what was left of walls lent me to believe the entire complex was way larger originally than what was rebuilt or preserved. Whatever was the case, they were not prepared or equipped for the Mexican force that overcame the site. That loss was a hard pill to swallow, of course there will be controversy in how history was written, lied about, sworn to and argued about. Nice work trying to sort out things, not sure about what is true but you had your facts straight and pointed out some errors or mistakes in the other persons point of view.
I love debate. The ability to gut your opponent’s argument, politely is a skill set that is being degraded by clickbait mentality. That being said, my first visit to the Alamo in 1967 left myself and my two California compatriots non plussed. It seemed poorly kept, and the story presented seemed to have holes. Over the next 50 years I’ve returned half dozen times. Each time I have come better prepared on Texas history, and have been more impressed by the quality of the curation. It’s a treasure. Thanks for defending it.
I read somewhere that there was a sole survivor who fought at the Alamo on the Texas side. When the battle was over the survivor, being of Spanish descent, claimed to be a prisoner of the Tejanos and Santa Anna let him walk. His name is unknown or lost to history. True?
See? Lol. 😊😊😊
@texashistorytrust I failed to address my question to you, so I apologize. Lol. I owe you 2. Lol. 😊😅
Thank you for setting the real history of our Texas correctly. Member of SRT, ancestor fought at the Siege of Bexar and San Jacinto. Survived both battles came back to the Alamo to help Juan Sequin gather the ashes for San Fernando Church. Our ancestor married into the Flores family . Where Floresville gets it's name. Thank you.
And traitor Seguins ass left to Mexico 😂 the moron lost every thing to his white Texan brothers
You should have fought in your island where you belong not in a foreign land squatting begot
You should have fought in your island where you belong not in a foreign land squatting begot
Not finding it weird that the Soldados don't have a memorial or other memorials is part of the problem of a status quo and triumphalist views. It others or devalues the lives of them and is a PROBLEM with history. History is written by the victors is a WARNING not a mission statement.
To person who deleted their comment, we should commemorate them. Go to major civil war sites. Both sides are commemorated. Commemoration doesn't = celebrate either. There is a difference.
Why, precisely, is that a problem?
@@Mark-vm7sc if you can't understand why dehumanizing people is a problem you have deeper issues than we have time to discuss.
How is it dehumanizing not to have a commemoration of the centralist soldados at the Alamo. Do you expect to see a commemoration of the Red Coats at Bunker Hill?
This dehumanization thing is only in your head.
Memorials at ACW sites make sense as a mechanism of healing within a nation. The same metrics do not apply at the Alamo.
@29:53 "The Alamo is an international symbol of strength in the face of overwhelming odds." A stand against a dictator is an definitely a skewed interpretation.
What’s the non skewed interpretation of a conflict with a guy who just orchestrated the an end to constitutional rule and the dissolution of all elected state and local governments?
Thanks for sharing and correcting the narrative of the Cynical Historian.
Although I suspect that the cynical historian had no desire to be factually accurate. From what I gather he cares more about his narrative. If he convinces just a few people that the history we’ve been taught is about race he considers that a victory.
The Alamo is a shrine to those who fought valiantly against a tyrant.
A tyrant, perhaps, but he was leading a fight to retrieve control over land that the S. F. Austin settlers had stolen and worked with slaves. As you know, Mexico had made slavery illegal and certainly had no wish to see immigrants reintroduce it. Austin had given his word in this regard.
Wow this video is a breath of fresh air! There’s not enough people corrected the “cynical historian” on TH-cam.
Michelle, I am grateful to your "gentle" management of an obvious left leaning individual who failed to back his abysmal attempt to force the "race card" at every turn. You systematic, and fact based rebuttal was brilliant! I, on the other hand, would have been far less polite in dealing with such a self-inflated bafoon. Insulting my beloved state of Texas is a sure way to set one's self towards a path they will soon regret. I would have put him in intensive care, however, you truly put him in his place! I salute you ma'am on a first rate maneuver reflecting your dedication to truth, history, and our great state. Well done! 👍👏
This is extraordinary. Thanks for your continued efforts to honor Texas.
You're very kind to say so, D.O. Thank you for lending us your ear for half an hour.
You only hear what you wanna hear
Texas doesn't deserve to be part of the United States.
Thank you! Finally, someone besides me who will debunk the debunked.
As director of the performance at the OK Corral in Tombstone from 2007-2013, I spent far too much time wasting my breath on all of the self-appointed history professors who flock to Tombstone with their first retirement check and their new cowboy suit to announce themselves as the next "first" one to tell us "real" history as opposed to the Hollywood version which they seem to think is always 100% wrong, blah, blah, blah...
Tha cynical historian comes off like just another cowboy reenacter.
Great job exposing his ineptitude.
I like to ask historic site director friends what their favorite "I know the REAL history" story is. I imagine your Tombstone experiences along those lines would fill a book. A thick book. It's easy to blame the internet for the everyone's-an-expert phenomenon but, as you know all too well, people accepting movies and family lore as gospel polluted the waters long before everyone got that AOL disc in the mail.
As a reenactor I resent being lumped with that a$$hOle.
Wander what Jesus thinks about what people have done with his history. Paul said it best. They seek their own righteousness. Not the truth of grace from the father.
@@catessc1 well paul and jesus likely weren't real sooooo a god that showed up like 10k years after we were conscious? makes no sense if anything the hindus have it right they have been around a lot longer than jesus.
My first visit to your site and thank you for setting the record straight about the Alamo, which I have visited many time. I am a native Tennessean as were many of it's defenders. I had to subscribe to your channel.
Mine also but the Okies can't talk about to Texas history and you're an Okie
Thank you ma’am, you’re a true Texan, there will always be other cynical people that try to tarnish Texas history.
PhD is enough to turn it off
I hear ya, PawPaw. I had to watch the whole thing, unfortunately, to call him out but only subjected y’all to a small portion of the torture!
When I went to visit
The people explaining the events, where very happily racist.
Not sure if they still give that speech.
What did they say?
Remember The Alamo!
You lost there
@@marthagomez7335Yeah, but you lost it all huh?
@@EskayDuro you lost at the Alamo hahaha 🤣
@@EskayDuro you lost your so called independence, you lost your slaves, you lost the civil war, you lost land you stole that was distributed to neighboring states. You will NEVER be independent! You lost, lost, lost! Now you are being invaded.
@@marthagomez7335 And you lost Texas. Then Colorado, New Mexico and Alto California. HaHa 😄
My wife and I had a romantic get away in San Antonio before the start the 2018 renovation. She was moved to tears and I was deeply affected by the story of the men and their families. It was particularly poignant for her since I was a Marine during Viet Nam and she lived in dread of my getting rotated into a hostile fire zone. But these women were in the only room with a roof and had to listen to their men being mercilessly slaughtered.
To his credit, Santa Ana gave them blankets, food and an honor guard when it was over. If they didn’t have their children to consider, they probably would not have left without cutting his throat or died trying.
I am proud of those men who paid the price for Texas freedom. My their memory be eternal.
That dude was woke. 189 Texans died there in the defense of the Alamo.
189 Texans, from all over the world .
Wow! So very well done. Nice to see and hear a true historian. Having studied the Alamo for over half a century, I found your History to be right on. God and Texas.
You are kind in your treatment of the Cynical Historian. I wont be. He represents what is wrong with America today. I find his race baiting and rewriting of history particularly troublesome. Clearly a product of our modern educational system. This man has no value. I cannot imagine how miserable his life must be, endlessly searching for something to be offended by.
Welcome aboard and kudos for securing the best TH-cam handle! He is definitely a product of our cookie cutter university system, but he shows signs of independent thought sometimes so I tried to be sweeter than I usually am.
I've visited the Alamo twice, and the last time, I stopped in at the Phil Collins collection, which I highly recommend. There was a fantastic diorama of the Alamo and a recorded narration of the battle by Phil Collins. Seriously, it was awesome!
The Phil collection is all the more impressive when you consider its journey from his basement in Switzerland to San Antonio. Without a new, proper facility to display it, he wasn’t letting go of it. Local politics made it tough to get that facility built but it was done! It came right down to the wire. I was at the groundbreaking.
There’s an even larger diorama in Hall of State in Dallas. It is populated by thousands of hand painted figures to show where everyone was. Some of my photos of it appear about halfway down this article:
www.texashistorytrust.org/texas-history-news-and-opinion/six-month-journey
I agree with your rebuttal. Indeed, the Cynical Historian presents a lot of juice to squeeze from a simple mission statement. I will not insult the Cynical Historian, as I am so very tempted by his particular approach. He insults himself quite well enough. You set him straight admirably. Thank you very much. God bless Texas and its fallen who have fought and died for it, and those among us courageous enough to stand up for it.
Appreciate your kind words, J. I’m with you on the personal attacks. Any fool can grab at low-hanging fruit. Too often that’s how we can tell who the fools are! I cut about fifteen minutes from my original recording, refuting more of his points that were wrong but too small to justify dragging my video out. I figured if it was exhausting for me, y’all would be bored to tears by every little mistake!
Obviously he has not studied the history of Texas. Doesn’t he know we wouldn’t have won the Texas fight for independence without Mexican citizens joining the rebels?
He does (I think) but claims the Tejano fighters are ignored in the Alamo's interpretation. That, of course, is patently false.
I can't say with authority how many Texans in February of 1836 were citizens of Mexico, but certainly a large number of them were. While Hispanic Texans in 1836 were only about 8% of the population, many of the "foreign immigrants" had become citizens by virtue of obtaining "sitios" (plots of land) through empresarios--the first thing they were required to do by the "Colonization Law of 1825" was to register themselves and swear allegiance to the Mexican Constitution of 1824 before their local "ayuntamiento". This made them de facto citizens, as they could vote and hold public office.
That in a nutshell says it all. Thank you.
Texans has always hated Mexicans and texicans, to this day.
@@jimchoate6912 To which comment are you replying?
I just got back from visiting the Alamo two days ago and I did walk away with the feeling that the issue of slavery was played down. What exactly were they fighting for? Why didn't they just surrender? Didnt they just fight to the death because they wanted to establish a slave State after Mexico had abolished slavery?
When, by your timeline, did Mexico abolish slavery? The Texas Revolution, of which the 1835 siege of Bexar by the Texians and the return siege by Santa Anna was a part, was not about one thing for any man, I don't think, especially the Tejanos who fought in it. Why didn't they surrender? Because they expected reinforcements to help them hold San Antonio and because surrender at discretion meant death anyway. The flag of no quarter was hoisted on the first day of the siege.
Mexico briefly abolished slavery (September 1829 to February 1831) but exempted Texas and the Isthmus of Tehuantepec (the places where there were actually slaves in numbers.)
What were the fighting about? What do you think would happen in the United States if the president and his cronies abolished the constitution and dissolved all state and local governments, then placed them all under military rule. That's what happened in Mexico in 1835 and what ALL the northern Mexican states rebelled over. All but Texas were crushed.
@@texashistorytrust Mexico abolished slavery in 1837. But the Guerrero Decree of 1829 already prohibited slavery. So why were there slaves at The Alamo? Because their whole purpose in coming to Mexico in the first place was to establish a slave state.
Why didn't they surrender? Because they were afraid that even if they did surrender that Santa Anna would kill them anyway. So why not fight to the death and hold on to slim hopes of reinforcements arriving?
They didn't just die for freedom. They died for the freedom of white men to own slaves. And THAT is what you left out. If their motivation wasn't slavery then why did Texas become a slave state as soon as they won their independence?
@@PabbyMan2000 Mhm. And what number of Alamo defenders owned slaves? What percentage of Austin’s original colonists were slave owners? It’s reductive as hell to claim a group of disparate people made a group decision because of one motivating factor. The scholarship on slavery as a cause of the Revolution agrees with me, I’m afraid, because history is more complicated than the one subject you seem to be aware of.
@@Mark-vm7sc Right and included in all of THAT they were going to have to give up their slaves.
I have a hard time taking seriously someone talking about others being honest when he's sporting an obvious combover of his bald spot. Be honest with yourself before talking about other's honesty. That and his complete lack of basic research makes me wonder how he got his PhD in history.
I have some advice for this gentleman don’t go to the Alamo and give them your opinion it’s not gonna turn out good
Something that the "Clinical Historian should remember. All too often, educational degrees fall into this category -
BS - everyone knows what BS is
MS - just more of the same
PhD - piled higher and deeper.
HA! This belongs on a tee shirt! I have a few history professor friends who would agree wholeheartedly, given the state of the profession.
We're can I notify her to do a program for my club
Outstanding response! Absolutely crushed the want-to-be, armchair historian. This guy is a perfect example of what happens when you earn your degree through online, tabloid courses and TH-cam "research." Frightening. Excellent video; well-thought and prepared; and superbly executed.
Great video, you're awesome, Michelle, thank you, and God Bless Texas!
Thank you, sir. I prefer to tell the stories of Texas but sometimes it's fun to do some correcting!
@@texashistorytrust Yes Im a new subscriber and you do a great job, the episodes are so fascinating, I love learning about Texas history!
I spent a day at the Alamo in 2001. The hair on my neck stood up at my first sight of the mission. I regard this site with reverence .
So much has changed around the Alamo since 2001, Rudolf, but the Church hasn't (except for routine conservation work) and that feeling never leaves you.
Thank you for your work. As a 5th generation Native Texan, I really appreciate what you do.
I've said all I'm going to say cuz I'm a fifth-generation texting so I know a little bit about it I don't go to TH-cam to find out my history your smart Wenatchee dumbass
Watching historians fight is one of my hobbies. Do I get to vote?
Just vote? I think you should go all in and start a betting pool!
I visited the alamo a month ago today. As a constituent of senator Crockett's district. Laid an offerenda at the tomb of the fighters in the church at the tomb of the defenders of the alamo. god bless texas and remember the alamo!
Thank you. Well related.
Mam I got to tell you ,you did a superb job on your video. I would not want to get into an argument with you about texas history. Your great. Love your video. You showed him up badly. Lol very intelligent lady.
I bet your husband never gets to win an argument. Ha ha ha we need more truth tellers like you everywhere
Many thanks, John! It was a lot to digest. Many ten minutes were cut away to make this a watchable length. I’m glad that it hit home with you, sir.
Does that guy look like his head is going to blow up at any time, or am I just paranoid.
His ego is going to blow up at any point now. That’s for sure.
I don’t want to imagine how we’d measure the psi!
I love this woman! She so rationally and "sweetly" DESTROYS this guy. That's why I try to support the site as much as possible.
Greg, you’ve been around long enough to know to put “sweetly” in quotation marks! You have no idea how much your support means.
The best book on the Texas Revolution has got to be the Texian Illiad by Stephen Hardin
Wholeheartedly agree! Dr. Hardin and I talked about his history book collection in November. Those videos are on this channel. He has a new book on the Runaway Scrape that will be on sale later this year and it’s excellent!
Lol I think she lives here in San Antonio this lady has done all the research she knows it I don't think there's anybody who can contest it everything she said but if you're not from Texas if you're not you've only been to the Alamo two times in your life in my opinion I wouldn't talk about thinking with me I went to New York one time and I saw the Statue of Liberty doesn't make me an expert on the Statue of Liberty I'm just saying those are my opinions I'm just happy that there was somebody that could go back and correct him
Pretty close, by Texas standards! Our office is in Corpus Christi but I spend a lot of time running the roads, visiting historic site directors and checking out their new exhibits. I take pics of everything to help me write about those Texas adventures. Cynical could have taken photos to back up his claims. He couldn’t because he didn’t see what he says he saw. The rest (who runs the Alamo, etc) he could have learned from the internet. Grateful to you for watching.
The Alamo is a scene of a battle where a lot of people lose their lives in what is now present day Texas. Like in all battles there are always two sides and there are at least two sides to every story. Do I need to know the minute details? Not really it takes away from the imagination. Do I want to know somebody's opinion? No, because everyone has one and that creates a conflict like right now. If you have been to the Alamo you already know the story and if not just go there and learn foy yourself.
Thank you. The idea that the defenders of the Alamo weren't heroic never sat well with me. Thanks again for clarifying what actual was.
He just needs to get back to the Lollypop Guild and stay away from history.
What is this lady's name? I could listen to her accent all day. Also, love her ability to "reason" through anargumrnt without confrontation.
Michelle Haas
Bless his heart, all that money spent on a PhD and he didn’t learn anything
CANNOT HELP HIMSELF, AS HE'S A DEMOCRAT.
Pathetic
I have a few problems with the mythos of the Alamo. First and foremost is that, militarily speaking, the whole thing was just nonsense. The Texicans were stupid for defending a position of little strategic value, against a force that they should have known they could not beat. Santa Anna went all dumbass by deciding to take the fort, rather than just leaving a detachment large enough to starve the bastards out, while using the bulk of his force to pursue the other rebels.
As a kid in Texas, I was constantly shoveled the notion that the Texas rebels were a divine cadre of noble freedom fighters. Yes, they fought for freedom; freedom from taxation on the land that they had been given, freedom from obeying their legitimate government, and freedom to keep their slaves.
Should the Alamo be a monument to such people? By all means! My ex Army self thinks that anyone who puts up a good scrap deserves recognition. So go ahead and honor Crockett and Bowie. Keep intoning Tavis' "Neither retreat nor surrender" dispatch as if it's the bleeding Beatitudes. But one thing that should also be done? Raise a monument to the Mexican soldiers who valiantly died at the Alamo defending their country.
Nothing worth defending? San Antonio was the key to controlling one of two routes to the colonies.
Also, you don’t seem to know that Santa Anna’s winter forced march through the mountains of northern Mexico caught the garrison unaware. They believed they had another month to be either reinforced or withdraw.
Tell me about the country Mexican soldiers were “defending”. What had changed about the political structure in the previous year?
Mexican soldiers were "Defending their country"? Like they did at Zacatecas, I suppose. Or like they did in brutally putting down revolts in San Luis Potosi, Queretaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacan, Jalisco, Nuevo Leon, Tamaulipas, and the parts of Coahuila y Texas that were Coahuila; they had tried to suppress opposition to Santa Anna in Yucatan but couldn't catch the rebels in the jungle so they declared victory and went back to Mexico City, only to see the Yucatan secede from Mexico in 1841, as they had done before in 1823.
There were two flags flying over the Alamo, as described by witnesses in San Antonio: the 1824 Constitution flag and the state flag of Coahuila y Texas. These flags symbolized what the defenders were fighting for: a restoration of the federal republic of Mexico (under the constitution to which they had sworn allegiance), and the restoration of their sovereign state of Coahuila y Texas (which had been undemocratically dissolved--along with all the other Mexican states--by the "Siete Leyes" proclaimed in December of 1835). The defenders of the Alamo had no way of knowing that on March 2nd of 1836, 175 miles and three rivers to the east, a Texan convention had declared Texas independent from Mexico and established the Republic of Texas.
Laws passed in 1830 did restrict American immigration into Texas and restricted the importation of African slaves into Texas. The tension this caused was moderated, however, by an exemption to slavery in Texas (aided somewhat by the sugar interests in southern Mexico which were dependent on African slaves, and who also got exempted from the law). The halt to immigration was pretty much ignored as was the cancelling of the 10-year exemption from property taxes promised to Texas settlers.
What prompted rebellion in Texas came almost 6 years later with the proclamation of the Siete Leyes. The Texans needed the Constitution of 1824 and the authority of the legislature of Coahuila y Texas to retain their original agreements with Mexico.
REMEMBER THE ALAMO! ENOUGH SAID!-❤️ THANKFUL TEXAN
It's always refreshing when a historian who knows the facts thoroughly presents those facts as opposed to a woke historian whose desire seems to be to promote his own political agenda. Thank you!
Great job. Thorough and concise to debunk this know-it-all who's not a real historian.
Excellent, thorough and fair-minded presentation of the facts, as usual. Your videos are always a delight to view.
This guy must have had a bad experience at his last visit to the Alamo and that is why he lied about every point of the visit? 😯😯🤨🤨🤨
I'm really enjoying the channel. One quibble, can we please stop calling all white people "Anglo"? That's akin to calling all Latin Americans "Mexican". Not one white person I know refers to themself as "Anglo".
I hear you. They constantly refer to “Anglos” so that German settlers (mostly anti-slavery) aren’t lumped in with evil “white people.” It’s not a preference of mine. Kinda like Latinx.
Well played Mam. You checked the little lefty at every turn.
they ran stop being a baby
I have never watched Cynical Historian, and don't plan to. I have visited many historical sites that have meaning to me for various reasons. I am not a Texan, but I love the history of that great state. I recall a statement made by a college professor which I'll paraphrase, the only fact known fact about the Alamo is that it happened. That caused me to read A Time To Stand by Walter Lord, the only available book I could find on the subject at the time. Almost thirty years later I was able to visit the Alamo in 1994. I enjoyed that visit and had no problem removing my hat to enter the shrine. I did not see anything at that time to support any claim of racism or that slavery was ignored. This video inspires me to visit again should I have the opportunity. There is a lot more known about the Alamo than that professor claimed.
Cynical Historian is nothing more than a revisionist hack.
Well done!
She says anglos and Mexicans are united. Aren’t and never will be.
she dragged him. YES MOTHER!! WORK! SLAY QUEEN!
Had to back up off the old girl fierceness for this one! Dialed it down from 11 to 6.5 to keep my language PG-13.
That guy is a real joke, but not funny.
We had grand parents closer to the events that passed down history!
Well done
Appreciate you taking the time to watch. Anytime we go over about 8 minutes, we know people will get restless!
@@texashistorytrust you did a great job laying all the information out, im not from Texas but im a history lover and i easily followed you, thanks
If this guy is so consistently wrong and so broadly wrong about the Alamo, how can we possibly trust anything he’s presenting as being correct? I wouldn’t trust him as my college professor.
Seems he’s had a tough time finding a teaching gig, so he makes videos full time, reaching a larger audience than he would in a classroom. The size of his audience is why I felt I should make a rebuttal video.
Wow. I never want to be on your bad side, Historically speaking. Great job.
Say it sister!!
Never believe a guy that glues his own public hair on his face.
Your review of the Cynical Historian video is excellent. Trying to include all the elements of the history of a place is difficult. Especially where the Alamo is concerned. Some extra points. The importance of the Alamo was neglected by the Cynical Historian. The Alamo delayed Santa Anna by 13 days. Without the delay, Sam Houston would not have been able to gather enough men to defeat Santa Anna. Of course, Sam Houston's military tactics played into the defeat of Santa Anna.
Slavery was a part of the reason Santa Anna came to Texas. It may not have been the reason for San Antonio, but East Texas, as you say, did have slavery. Mexico had outlawed slavery. Santa Anna needed to come to Texas to enforce Mexican law. A few of the prominent fighters at the Alamo were slave traders and owners. Not that really had any significance in the total scheme of the reason for the defense of the Alamo.
Although many would like to make everything about race and or slavery, Santa Anna's main reason for coming to Texas was monetary. Mexico had made the mistake of inviting settlers of foreign descent to Texas. Texas became settled by a large number of US citizens. They did not respect Mexican authority. They, therefore, did not pay taxes. Santa Anna needed to enforce the payment of taxes.
As you have stated, without knowing the details, the true story can not be told. Today, those who do not take the time to study history try to interpret the past in the mores of today. Doing so undermines the character of those who fought for our country. The issue of reinterpreting history in today's mores is not limited to the Alamo but all history.
Slavery was legal in all of Mexico during the Texas Revolution.
Thank you for this video
Well done. This was another informative and humorous analysis of the rampant misinterpretation of our Texas history by the misguided. I've watched many of Cynical Historian's videos over the years and found some of them very interesting. Some also seem poorly researched, tendentious and mocking as with his Alamo criticism here. I've learned to be cynical or skeptical of some of his historical claims, which logically leads me to read and research further to separate the wheat from his chaff. No one is accurate 100% of the time, but you have a high watermark in my book and you back it up with easily corroborated evidence. Keep doing what you do and Recuerda El Álamo y a todos los defensores y sobrevivientes.
To Cynical Historian:
Please learn from this and grow. Ironically, I should suggest you use what you've been shown here in order to mature into a better historian by "Remembering The Alamo".
History must be to forget today , forget your politics , beliefs and your cell phone . You must be there and then , you only know what the people of there [ place ] and then [ that day ] . Putting flowery words is social choice . Facts , all the facts and noted when facts as seen by our current understanding [ best guess ] . You must love the quest of how people lived , thought and seen their world .
Touché, nicely done.
seems this "new" phd has more schooling to complete. It is obvious he
has an issue with the DRT and American history in genetal. Too woke.
Thank you!
Amen. I am humbled and proud that Europeans are completely ignorant about the reality of MODERN Texas, BUT THEY KNOW THE ALAMO.