@@tatoehi While it is easier, you can also use Counter Energy on Sylveon ex since it technically works with it. Shouldn't be too difficult to work with either given the deck's control-like nature and prize-control shenanigans. The ex also has better bulk and the attack is reusable (another combo when used with Channeler). I'd say they're pretty interchangeable in the grand scheme of things. And just a more "meta" reason: Sylveon ex is both newer and in Standard, so it's more marketable for YT despite it being used in Expanded.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Also, Sylveon ex is bulkier and doesn't rely on using your gx attack, meaning it's repeatable if needed, or you can combine both the ex and gx to do it twice in a row, if it's needed at all anyways since this combo is just nasty enough to make anyone want to forfeit
You once said you rarely went against Lost Box decks recently. LOL ! My personal experience is, out of every 10 games, 3 were against Lost Box variants ! Now i have another Lost Box variant to worry about 😅
Pikachu, Hydreigon, Sylveon, the answer is all too often "just stick it into Lost Box" as of late. I never liked the archetype but man, that speaks volumes to the strength of Lost Zone
I've been playing lost sylveon too, although im playing gravity gemstone, it works wonders when you can trap something on the active and spam lost mine to the bench
I go with the same idea but with pidgeot and wellspring ogerpon, so you go double colorless energy with sparkling crystal in ogerpon and use its second attack to go snipping their basics
Hi LDF, can you make a tatsugiri ex deck with Pogo zard, blackie zard, 151 zard , slaking and pidgeot ex. All these when set up properly only needs 1 fire to attack. Do consider. Thank you.
YESS LETS GOOO SYLVEON LOST BOX I’ve been trying to make this work I have a decent 60 that works and seeing LDF take a crack of the idea of mirage gate with sylveon just made my day
I guess it will work better for the ones that share colors with LZ, mainly water and psychic, but I've seen some LZ play 5 colors so anything can happen
At 34:20 you could’ve nest balled for ursaluna attached energy for turn and retreat to ursaluna 😛 I know you still win that match but could’ve ended it quicker is all
I played against the terrapogos, dusknoir version of this deck and felt that angelite was never super threatening but this version looks more consistent
Yeah, makes it really awkward, alternatively, you can close games by cleaning the bench after roxanne and then KO the active or 2 small basics with greninja/sableye
The build ive been using for Sylveon EX: Pokémon: 9 2 Sylveon ex SSP 86 2 Drifloon SVI 89 1 Scream Tail PAR 86 4 Kirlia SIT 68 1 Mew ex MEW 151 4 Ralts ASR 60 1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46 2 Gardevoir ex SVI 86 2 Eevee TWM 135 Trainer: 13 1 Counter Catcher PAR 160 1 Boss's Orders SHF 58 1 Night Stretcher SFA 61 4 Nest Ball SVI 181 2 Bravery Charm PAL 173 1 Iono PAL 185 4 Arven SVI 166 1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178 1 Super Rod PAL 188 4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144 4 Ultra Ball SVI 196 1 Sparkling Crystal SCR 142 2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 Energy: 3 8 Basic {P} Energy Energy 13 3 Basic {L} Energy Energy 12 3 Basic {W} Energy Energy 11 Total Cards: 60
I wanna subscribe but im torn. Good content but the most cringe thumbnails on every single video. Idk how people can stand to see these vids in their sub box every day lmao
A niche, funny combo is that you can combine it with Cyrus Prism Star in Expanded to just delete your opponent’s entire bench in a single turn.
Dude that's actually insane what, with area zero/sky field effect that's up to 8 pokemon that you just delete, that's so funny
That sounds nasty
You could just play the better Sylveon-GX in Expanded though. Easier to set up the combo, and has the possibility of taking out the Active Pokemon.
@@tatoehi While it is easier, you can also use Counter Energy on Sylveon ex since it technically works with it. Shouldn't be too difficult to work with either given the deck's control-like nature and prize-control shenanigans. The ex also has better bulk and the attack is reusable (another combo when used with Channeler). I'd say they're pretty interchangeable in the grand scheme of things.
And just a more "meta" reason: Sylveon ex is both newer and in Standard, so it's more marketable for YT despite it being used in Expanded.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Also, Sylveon ex is bulkier and doesn't rely on using your gx attack, meaning it's repeatable if needed, or you can combine both the ex and gx to do it twice in a row, if it's needed at all anyways since this combo is just nasty enough to make anyone want to forfeit
I can't wait to see your "I put all 8 eeveelutions ex in a single deck" video.
@34:20 you had game with nest ball attach to bloodmoon and retreat
I was wondering how he didn’t see it.
I was so lost
He also could perfectly angelite Pidgeot and Sylveon but he put psychic on Sableye instead
Oops
So many ways to win
you had game one turn before against the sylveon pidgeot, rod ursa, nest and attach energy no?
Me - Oh boy! Sylveon, finally!
Also me - Lost Box? Maaaaaaaaan. I’ll just wait for the new set for upgrades
You once said you rarely went against Lost Box decks recently. LOL ! My personal experience is, out of every 10 games, 3 were against Lost Box variants ! Now i have another Lost Box variant to worry about 😅
Pikachu, Hydreigon, Sylveon, the answer is all too often "just stick it into Lost Box" as of late. I never liked the archetype but man, that speaks volumes to the strength of Lost Zone
Attaching 2 energies from deck with an item is ridiculous, sure you need to build the lz to 7, but comfey is a decent draw engine anyways
Lost zone too good!
I've been playing lost sylveon too, although im playing gravity gemstone, it works wonders when you can trap something on the active and spam lost mine to the bench
I go with the same idea but with pidgeot and wellspring ogerpon, so you go double colorless energy with sparkling crystal in ogerpon and use its second attack to go snipping their basics
Hi LDF, can you make a tatsugiri ex deck with Pogo zard, blackie zard, 151 zard , slaking and pidgeot ex. All these when set up properly only needs 1 fire to attack.
Do consider. Thank you.
YESS LETS GOOO SYLVEON LOST BOX I’ve been trying to make this work I have a decent 60 that works and seeing LDF take a crack of the idea of mirage gate with sylveon just made my day
Literally every version plays that card...
There is only 1 version of this deck and they all kinda stink.
So when prismatic evolutions comes out, can you just chuck any eeveelution into lost box and adjust the energies?
I guess it will work better for the ones that share colors with LZ, mainly water and psychic, but I've seen some LZ play 5 colors so anything can happen
Yee
This is fire i cannot lie
At 34:20 you could’ve nest balled for ursaluna attached energy for turn and retreat to ursaluna 😛 I know you still win that match but could’ve ended it quicker is all
I wonder if you could run a poison deck with angelite. Keep on wiping the bench while the active dies to poison.
I played against the terrapogos, dusknoir version of this deck and felt that angelite was never super threatening but this version looks more consistent
Awesome Man!
Played this deck last week and my biggest problem was closing out games because of how awkward prize mapping is
Yeah, makes it really awkward, alternatively, you can close games by cleaning the bench after roxanne and then KO the active or 2 small basics with greninja/sableye
Sableye and sylveon is pure evil 😭
Now try it with glass trumpet.
I believe unfair stamp would be a better aspect for this deck
Question when are you going to go live again?
Letsgooo, another lost zone video! 😊
YES (bibarel main attacker when..?)
idk man, why not just Crispin instead of using a Lost box?
Who here thinks that live should be updated so that you can play the standard format from any year, all the way back to black and white base set.
Surprised you didn't go the control route with pidgeot
This route doesn't give silveon energy acceleration
@derekjeter3654 well yes, hence the control aspect
Its cool but harder to play
You probably win on the spot if you Angelite both chops against lugia.
Yeppp
The build ive been using for Sylveon EX:
Pokémon: 9
2 Sylveon ex SSP 86
2 Drifloon SVI 89
1 Scream Tail PAR 86
4 Kirlia SIT 68
1 Mew ex MEW 151
4 Ralts ASR 60
1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46
2 Gardevoir ex SVI 86
2 Eevee TWM 135
Trainer: 13
1 Counter Catcher PAR 160
1 Boss's Orders SHF 58
1 Night Stretcher SFA 61
4 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Bravery Charm PAL 173
1 Iono PAL 185
4 Arven SVI 166
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178
1 Super Rod PAL 188
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
1 Sparkling Crystal SCR 142
2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
Energy: 3
8 Basic {P} Energy Energy 13
3 Basic {L} Energy Energy 12
3 Basic {W} Energy Energy 11
Total Cards: 60
noooo why no prerelease comfey? You always use that art!!!
Lost box is whack lol
Nope
Ew to both Angelite sylveon and lost box
Finally my fav eeveelution
Sylveon is cracked. It crumbles my favorite boy piplup. I don't get to Umbreon piplup!
@@FerretTwister umbreons art is insane tho
@piplup2884 true true sir. And he's gonna be a goofy card to play. Flareon ex/Umbreon ex gonna be at least a B tier deck too
@@FerretTwister finding a way to take a prize every turn while trapping something with gravity gemstone sounds really fun
Yeahhhh no one asked
theres a better version of this deck out online
Is that so
I wanna subscribe but im torn. Good content but the most cringe thumbnails on every single video. Idk how people can stand to see these vids in their sub box every day lmao
I will NEVER play lost box sorry plus lost box dies in rotation in like 3 months
Regidrago is worse
@@derekjeter3654 yes indeed it is. Dont even let me get to zard either
@@derekjeter3654 I agree I just don’t like playing lost box it’s boring to me
Lost box is the 🐐. My favorite archetype since luxchomp
That's a weak deck
Nah
@LittleDarkFury it is. My golddengo will smash that hella fast. I like Sylveon but it's really broken.