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  • @fshtank
    @fshtank ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I enjoy this channel due to your dev-centric content. I enjoy the other channels but their ‘creatives’ aspect always leaves me feeling like I want more. Keep these up I very much appreciate them.

  • @andresrodriguez2628
    @andresrodriguez2628 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    It would be interesting to see the results with no charger plugged in

    • @RickertBrandsen
      @RickertBrandsen ปีที่แล้ว +14

      that was already done i think and macs are winning in this.

    • @Stratijev
      @Stratijev ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@RickertBrandsen This is a laptop, is not fair to test with chargers. OK for desktop machines, but laptop is made to work on battery, and there M kills everything.

    • @RickertBrandsen
      @RickertBrandsen ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Stratijev didn't I say it, lol?

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Stratijev do u guys really live in a place where no chargers are around thus being said i have been sticking to the charger with my M1 pro most of the time
      it can stay on with my work flow for 2 hours max only

    • @alwayshappy2862
      @alwayshappy2862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ko-Daegu
      Nah not possible am using mba m1 and I get more than 8 hours with full potential

  • @remigoldbach9608
    @remigoldbach9608 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Windows is a pain in the a** in terms of resource usage : even idling the laptop runs hot and fans are running …

    • @infeltk
      @infeltk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My lenovo with ryzen isn't hot. Fan is stopped

  • @TFDusk
    @TFDusk ปีที่แล้ว +29

    3:14 Just an FYI, when you're running docker on windows you're required to have WSL installed before you can even use the program. The reason why is because docker itself is a linux program. When you run docker on both windows and macbook, you're running a small vm of linux that allows you to be able to run docker as a program, that give or take except for the past year or so is normally worse in macbook's because there is more involved with translating the architecture for the new M1/M2 chips.
    You won't notice these on these tests because for simple Dockerfile's that are just use a base image of a linux distro they've likely been optimized to run on the arm architecture, but for a company's setup, they may/may not be set up to be able to run arm architecture on their computers.WSL runs near native performance for linux operations, but is still running under the hood a VM of a linux distro to run docker in the subsystem for you.
    Basically, it doesn't matter if you run it through windows or through your WSL distro, because the operation of docker runs through WSL. If it was running threw windows I assure you it would be minutes slower, if it even runs at all as windows distributions in general for docker have more bloated software, and do not run natively on windows platforms.
    This is also to say that this test is a bit meaningless as it really depends on your company's setup for docker. I know this as the last place I worked had significant issues with docker for over a year when the M1 intiially came out and people upgraded, many of the distros were not supporting arm architecture at the time and our setup was not built to be able to support that architecture. If you're just running some pet projects with minimal docker setup that you're likely controllling, then the Air is likely better for those operations, but if your grabbing this for an older codebase, I would highly encourage actually looking through your companys dockerfile's and if possible testing if it can even build the docker image, as you may not be able to.
    Things are much better now, as Macbook's recently came up with the rosetta translation solution that was added into docker a while ago that dramatically improves the translation layer between linux distros if you're company does not have arm support, but there still may be things that may not be supported yet for M1 laptops.

    • @gosich
      @gosich ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Docker can run windows containers on windows natively, without a VM behind the scene. It would be interesting to measure performance of this build in windows container.

  • @aronax777
    @aronax777 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the video, it would be really cool to see more comparisons of the same tests when the laptops are running on battery!

  • @NotGarrettG
    @NotGarrettG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    *Random comment said they last 2 hours & need a charger 24/7 on their computer*
    it’s NOT about “not having a charger nearby”,
    It IS about, MacBooks being LAPTOPS & PORTABLE PERSONAL COMPUTERS and they LAST HOURS. I have a M1 TOUCHBAR 13” and MY music production workflow lasts 8+ HOURS.
    I WATCH 1 MOVIE it goes down 10% MAX?? That’s pretty good.
    For MY M1

  • @ScottGrunwald
    @ScottGrunwald ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Edit for the video: XPS is running 14 Physical Cores (20 Logical threads). vs MB running 8 Physical Cores (Arm doesn't do Hyperthreading, so 8 threads.)

  • @shubhamcweb
    @shubhamcweb ปีที่แล้ว +10

    M2 Air >> when it comes to performance per $.
    M1 Pro >> in performance at a still lower price.

  • @friskofly
    @friskofly ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vidéo simple and efficient it would be great to have a comparison on php with zbench for instance

  • @rhoderzau
    @rhoderzau ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the video - it'd be nice to also see some tests without the laptop plugged in.

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ooh that wouldn’t be good, no no no. a windows laptop must always be plugged in 😆

    • @rhoderzau
      @rhoderzau ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AZisk On a completely separate note. I just moved from two studio displays to a single Pro Display XDR, it's so nice having the extra space for the simulator on a single 32" screen. I wish I'd gotten it back when it first came out as it sounds like there'll be a new one in the next year or two, but still very happy. Also means I'm able to use the MacBook Air without DisplayLink work-arounds as I just use a single display now

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rhoderzau that sounds like a really nice screen. I'm still in the sub-1k range for monitors, ruining my eyes over here :)

    • @rhoderzau
      @rhoderzau ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AZisk haha I overrode the 500 nit limit so I'm running my eyes in a different way.

  • @synen
    @synen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Alex, love the channel. Regarding this video, I think we would benefit from benchmarks of real world projects and not just these quick algorithm runs.

  • @bigalt808
    @bigalt808 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Do not like my XPS 15. Runs hot with just a few MS apps opened. Might be they way my work set the battery and graphics settings. But every time I use it the keyboard gets uncomfortable to type. All my M chip macbooks stay fresh.

    • @remigoldbach9608
      @remigoldbach9608 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The operating system is a big reason. I don’t have the same experience under Linux as under windows. I can confirm that under windows the laptop is always hot in the touch …

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu ปีที่แล้ว

      my macbook m1 pro get's hot nost of the day too
      i feel i was sold to the hype

    • @bigalt808
      @bigalt808 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ko-Daegu What are you doing with it? Is it the 14pro? or 13pro? or 16pro? I know I have the 13 m1 air and cool to the touch. I also have the 16pro and still cool to the touch even when I doc it with 3 monitors. XPS 15 just laptop alone hot and with 3 monitors hooked up its burning up.

  • @JeanineMeier
    @JeanineMeier ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think a more fair comparison would be to the M2 MacBook Pro 14”. The Air is a compromise machine between portability and power. It is beautiful, but it isn’t competing for the pro market.

    • @utah9650
      @utah9650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The air can still beat the XPS 15 on battery

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 15-inch Air compares to the Lenovo ThinkPad T16 series or LG Gram 16-inch.

  • @macccu
    @macccu ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would love to see test that's actually relevant to a lot of developers - quick builds every 30s or so for a prolonged period of time. Like you are working building website in typescript for example. I love my Air but it's performance over hours of short bursts was a concern for me.

    • @DavidAlsh
      @DavidAlsh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me, working on Jira at Atlassian, my Dell Precision (running Linux and the older 12th gen i7) compiles the project about 15% faster than my M1 MacBook pro and does fs IO bound operations 10 times faster (no exaggeration). yarn install takes 1/10th the time (when cached), git clean -xdf takes 1/10th the time. Rust compilation is about 50% faster on the Dell and Docker workflows are not even in the same universe (Dell running Linux decimates the MBP for Docker).
      Live recompiling for web (TypeScript) is noticeably faster on the Dell and interestingly, the MBP gets the same battery life as the Dell when doing live reloading work (~4-5 hours).
      My biggest criticism is the Dell is so horrible to use when compared to my MBP. The Dell trackpad is fatiguing to use (like doesn't Dell have a QA team, have they ever tried a MacBook?), where I can (and do) use the MBP in a cafe all day with the trackpad alone. The speakers are so garbage I wondered if they were broken. The Dell keyboard is fine and the screen is great.
      Despite the superior performance of the Dell, I reverted back to the slower MBP because I work from cafes/libraries a lot and portability/usability is more important to me. Though I did need to buy an ROG Ally to play games when I travel because the MBP can't play games.
      I also really really miss Linux. MacOS is nice, but Linux is really great for development.

    • @andrewgrant788
      @andrewgrant788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can’t imagine using any laptop for my development work but if I did it wouldn’t be a MacBook Air. A 16” MBP seems much more suitable. For side projects I use a 27” iMac but for work my employer provided a desktop tower with a water cooled 32 core Thread Ripper and two 49” ultra wide monitors.

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu ปีที่แล้ว

      you don't need a 1k machien to build a website you can do it with your chrome book same shit
      also to state that docker, sorting running varouise languages is not relevant to developers what are you writing HTML css js only all day?

    • @DavidAlsh
      @DavidAlsh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ko-Daegu some people do write just js/css/html. A lot of devs don't use docker

    • @mrpapua100
      @mrpapua100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewgrant788 I'm a react native develop, sometimes I do python backend too. I use macbook air 15" base model when I'm mobile and Mac Mini M2 Pro for my home setup. To be honest mba 15" is plenty powerful for my use case. I never managed to make it throttle throughout my dev session, and the battery is just awesome

  • @wihiss
    @wihiss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤩 thanks !

  • @yavorbalabanov9976
    @yavorbalabanov9976 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello Alex,
    Always enjoy your comparisons and reviews.
    It would be fair to make the same comparison with xps on Linux - docker is not(like never) native on Windows and Linux is closer to Macosx.
    Yes, Linux will require a lot of tinkering, drivers/fw are never as mature as on Windows, but it is where the fun begins.

    • @TFDusk
      @TFDusk ปีที่แล้ว

      This isn't true. WSL and mac are both running through a small VM that is allowing these OS to even be able to execute docker commands, since docker was not built natively for either windows or macs. The M1s may even be at a disadvantage in some cases as Arm architecture is not the standard binary that most images use, as they are mostly built for x86 architecture. There was an update a few months back to add in the rosetta translator that apple recently announced as a native feature into docker to allow it to have nearly the same performance as WSL for x86 images, but it's still inherently at a disadvantage in comparison to the XPS here.

    • @simondj8572
      @simondj8572 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why you have to care about a $3 trillion company software ecosystem?

  • @PerpetualPreponderer
    @PerpetualPreponderer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why did you pit a base level m2 processor with a H series intel core processor??? Please do a test comparing the vanilla m2 with either a U or P series processor 🙏

  • @FelipeFontana
    @FelipeFontana ปีที่แล้ว

    mark some test using orbstack instead of docker compose , amazing increase

  • @super_mr_unknown
    @super_mr_unknown ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, is it possible to enable low power mode on m2 pro models and m2 max models or it just for basic m2 chips models?

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 ปีที่แล้ว

    Battery operation? Battery life? I knight have missed it: did you use clang on the air?

  • @Shabbir-A.
    @Shabbir-A. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about fan noise for XPS 15?

  • @pxnchx93
    @pxnchx93 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you have those seconds timers for each line on the terminal?

  • @riezan
    @riezan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if 15-inch MBA M2 users can tell me whether or not you palm rest get remotely wam for normal usage like multimedia consumption, research, office work and light photo editing.

  • @thomasluk4319
    @thomasluk4319 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I will install a bare metal linux like ubuntu, should I still go for Mac?

  • @dmitry-1179
    @dmitry-1179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did you used wsl2 on windows as docker engine or hyper-v ?

  • @premsaivittal2030
    @premsaivittal2030 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did you connected the dell xps to charger while doing tests 🙄?

    • @Arman_s81
      @Arman_s81 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, the charger icon shows its not connected🤔

  • @mahonar
    @mahonar ปีที่แล้ว +19

    this is the grim reality with this x86 generation. You have to spend a premium 2.6k to have roughly the same performance of the base macbook, while having half the battery time.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

    • @mahonar
      @mahonar ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dracoxruiz2563 I just checked, in my country (Italy) the least possible price is 1.7k with 13700H, arc gpu, 16gb, windows home, 512MB and FHD monitor.
      Macbook Air 15 16GB is 2.1k.
      It's true, price/performance is really closer, if you don't need battery time or the fancy lcd.

  • @cloudcraftCICD
    @cloudcraftCICD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Alex, after having a MacBook M2 AIR 15' base variant (8/256), I am confused whether I could have bought 512 gb. Could you please help me if purchased base model is good for belo tasks in terms of MEMORY (256 GB):
    1. Casually using docker
    2. Terraform
    3. Learning other DevOps activities like Jenkins
    4. No video editing
    Above is the usage please help!

    • @chriscs9080
      @chriscs9080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      8gb in 2023 it's not enough !

  • @user-mm8ml7lt7f
    @user-mm8ml7lt7f ปีที่แล้ว

    What is website you are use to benchmark python?
    Can you provide url

  • @LouisDuran
    @LouisDuran 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's pretty easy to find the XPS on sale for under $1500 but sales on all but the lowest end macs are almost non existent. Looking at Dells website now, I can see an XPS 15 with the i7 13700H for $1599 now as a BTS sale.

    • @Kostiantyn_M
      @Kostiantyn_M 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      with terrible screen resolution

  • @user-hk2ub4mp3f
    @user-hk2ub4mp3f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can other laptops with the same hardware will perform the same?

  • @JustPlaneCrazy88s
    @JustPlaneCrazy88s ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video! I really disliked my XPS 15. It was loud, slow, had a horrible trackpad, and I needed a suitcase to carry the power brick. This was two years ago so they probably have fixed the issues. It really soured me on the XPS line. I've been leaning toward the LG Gram or Lenovo X1 series.

  • @andyH_England
    @andyH_England ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would not buy the XPS 15 for many reasons, but the XPS 17 would be tempting. The MB Pro 16 M2 Max is the obvious rival to the XPS 15 or 17 and is likely to be closer in performance than the Air due to more CPU and GPU cores. Out of these two, easy win for the Air, but probably the XPS 17 if that was the choice!

    • @AaronTheBaron93
      @AaronTheBaron93 ปีที่แล้ว

      The XPS 17 is probably better overall, but the main difference in most of my use case scenarios is just the larger size. I don't need 100% of my i7/RTX card's performance beyond shorter bursts, which won't differ much in performance between the 15 and 17. I would never game on an XPS as it's always been a terrible experience throughout the history of this line (extremely slow displays) and I don't do a ton of heavy rendering or anything. And the 17 inch size does severely affect the portability.

    • @Slurkz
      @Slurkz ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d say the main difference is Performance Per Watt, the XPS will run much hotter and louder, and drain your battery at least 2x faster.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will wait for next year, with intel meteor lake cpu that is focused on efficiency and hope for a refresh or redesign with vapour chamber cooling

  • @user-db5jx4dw8v
    @user-db5jx4dw8v ปีที่แล้ว

    how will it be different without ac?

  • @SreejithKSGupta
    @SreejithKSGupta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you compare maybe the 15-inch MacBook air and laptops with 1360P/ 7735U Processors? or even gaming laptops with i5 13500H/7540HS.... because that is what most people would consider for 1K - 1.5K of the MacBook. A thin and light like the Asus S15 would also be a nice option, and I think you would get a result like " for 2/3rd the price, it offers better performance, while lacking a bit in build quality, and battery."

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

  • @jacklwipa1187
    @jacklwipa1187 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Max, still waiting on the android development for the M2 Max & pro :-)

  • @gtangari
    @gtangari ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well, it's a bit unfair to compare a consumer device against the highest end device of Dell. I was surprised by the test with Docker, the C++ test shows practically same performance and where multicore matter, well, as you said, one has 20 cores, the other 8. I would say pretty good results for the MBA for 1000$ less, less weight, no fan, better keyboard, better touchpad, better sound and no reason to deal with Dell support 🙂
    ah yes ... how performs the XPS running with the battery? 😛

    • @Manuel-rl6um
      @Manuel-rl6um ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Price difference is due to the specs he has. In Europe, XPS15 with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and RTX4050 costs less than my MBA15 with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD.
      Having said that, Dell needs to change the design of the XPS15 and make it similar to the XPS13 Plus, with better keyboard, haptic touchpad, better cooling and better design.

    • @gtangari
      @gtangari ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with all the point you said Dell needs to change: except the keyboard. For the target of this computer you cannot, in my opinion, lose the physical function keys.
      Anyway, price or not, the target of these two computer is different: the MBA is anyway supposed to target consumers, the other should be instead the highest end machine, so, I expect it’s faster than a machine that doesn’t neither have an active cooling system

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gtangari Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

  • @KingsOfFootball6ringsL
    @KingsOfFootball6ringsL ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys pls help I have 3 more years of high school and 1300 bucks. I currently am using a base model 2017 MacBook Air. Should I get the 2020 M1 MacBook Air or keep mine?

  • @danielkik1245
    @danielkik1245 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do this with a Zephyrus G14 2023 vs a 2022!

  • @santhoshreddy2571
    @santhoshreddy2571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you should do benchmarks on ubuntu vs max, as windows is lot slower, and there is dell developer editon on xps

  • @BenedickHoward
    @BenedickHoward ปีที่แล้ว

    Which metrics are best for video editing? 📈 📸

  • @user-kt3qb4tl2w
    @user-kt3qb4tl2w ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe that the pyrometer should be thrown into the trash and buy a normal thermal imager. Also need to check coil whine noise on both laptops!!!

  • @alfianahar
    @alfianahar ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you test with ryzen 7040 series? Like 7840hs

  • @narendranathjagarlamudi3191
    @narendranathjagarlamudi3191 ปีที่แล้ว

    i see you are running the windows side of test on ubnutu which has some translation overhead. i think running Linux on dual boot will have much more performance.

    • @xxfortniteslayer69xx82
      @xxfortniteslayer69xx82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he literally showed in the video that there is no performance difference between the wsl - ubuntu terminal and the windows terminal

  • @maskedroyale
    @maskedroyale ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Alex 1 question, does it hamper the battery life of MacBook the new apple silicon MacBooks if we use it continuously plugged into the socket?

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are gonna do that then use AlDente to stop charging over a certain limit. I would suggest 50-60%. There is no question that charging constantly at 100% is going to reduce the life of the battery as Apple does not use charge-through technology. Charging to 80% every time rather than 100% is likely to add 1000 full cycles to your battery life according to research.

    • @maskedroyale
      @maskedroyale ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyH_England According to you what is going to be the best way to keep the battery life and health good?

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maskedroyale Try and keep your battery between 20-85% if you use it on battery. But if it is only on mains then stop charging around 50%. AlDente is a macOS app that does this. My 2.5-year-old MB Pro 13 M1 still has 99% battery capacity!

    • @maskedroyale
      @maskedroyale 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andyH_England How do you charge your laptop? How do you use your laptop plugged in or on battery? Your routine.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maskedroyale
      I never use my MacBook on power. Every evening I top it up to 85% or around that mark. I use it for about 6 to 7 hours a day during the week. And rarely does it go below 30%. That way I keep the battery at its optimum zone preserving the max battery cycles. Obviously, people have different uses so they may not be able to manage the battery like I do, but as the MacBook Air is an ultrabook, most people could use it like that.

  • @omarnaasan3536
    @omarnaasan3536 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be reasonable to match the xps with the same price class e.g: mbp 16 inch m2 + unplugged for the xps

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

  • @vabeachsux
    @vabeachsux ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be safe to say the XPS 15 results would be similar for any i7-13700 equipped Windows laptop?

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If not better, because the xps runs the cpu at 60w, other laptops can go up to 100-120w

    • @vladislavmonte3714
      @vladislavmonte3714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, No

  • @bigsean6045
    @bigsean6045 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's i7 and the most powerfull mobile H chip so it's kinda not fair to compare it to air, it should be compared to 'U' or 'P' varients
    H should be compared to M2 pro chips honestly

    • @bigsean6045
      @bigsean6045 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has 6 power cores that are hyper threaded and 8 efficiency cores, while m2 air has 4 power and 4 efficiency cores.
      M2 pro 12 core has 8 power and 4 efficiency cores and would obliterate the 13700h

  • @trustmub1
    @trustmub1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its Schwarzenegger for me. got all advanced now, thats progress in my book....

  • @junaidtariq7466
    @junaidtariq7466 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    isn't the XPS 15 expensive compared to Macbook Air? Wouldn't a fair comparison be between M1 Pro/M2 Pro chip macs?

    • @Manuel-rl6um
      @Manuel-rl6um ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Europe, MBA15 with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage is more expensive than the XPS15 i7 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and RTX4050

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

  • @jjoksa
    @jjoksa ปีที่แล้ว

    We want mooooore

  • @AndyJMacLeod
    @AndyJMacLeod 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The MacBook Air gets the the price-to-performance award.

  • @endaksi_channel
    @endaksi_channel ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing that MBA is the right choice for developer. Even it is 1% slower at certain tasks than the ugly low quality heavy hot energy inefficient and EXPENSIVE Dell XPS.

  • @NotInventedHereShow
    @NotInventedHereShow ปีที่แล้ว

    Most battery tests of laptops tend to focus on playing a video until it runs out.
    Please perform a "dev on a plane" battery test, e.g. continuously run a dotnet compile on a big project. Probably a worst case scenario, since you are not constantly compiling but will tell me how long I could be coding on a plane.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont code on any place i found, i sit for a while and usually plug it in, why drain the battery, I use a small 67w usb c charger, is almost iPhone size and it is enought

  • @daveh6356
    @daveh6356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my Air but seriously a 20-core $2600 machine against an 8-core $1600 machine? Try the 12-core M2 Pro.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

    • @daveh6356
      @daveh6356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dracoxruiz2563 seems like you're so desperate to prove your point, you've missed mine. The M2 Pro MacBook Pro, at the same price-point as the PC he tested, has much higher CPU performance which would have made for a better comparison.
      Also, cheap, performant hardware won't fix Windows - ever.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daveh6356 at 2600 yes, but at 1500, 1200 dollar laptops, dell is better, Apple has bad cheap laptops, they are good but lack performamce. Also, where they lack even at 2600 is gpu, the 4050 beats at the 1500 mark and at 2600 the 4070 wins, specially gaming

  • @FrankMadero
    @FrankMadero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to see compilation of GCC in one test. Another test where 3 VM's are run at the same time. Next do some synthesis of an fpga build. And finally a soldworks test and maybe a 3d simulation. I feel like these tests would let a engineer get a better feel between the 2 laptops.

  • @makssx6378
    @makssx6378 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just got xps 15 today

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  ปีที่แล้ว

      congrats 🎊

    • @MrStanislavb
      @MrStanislavb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would also need ice packs to cool that heater 😀

    • @ABDTalk1
      @ABDTalk1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats! Ignore the applers....

  • @soraaoixxthebluesky
    @soraaoixxthebluesky ปีที่แล้ว

    Main problem with powerful Windows laptop is that they're way more expensive than Apple offering. As someone who really want CUDA and OptiX and Intel multi-threaded performance, the price is simply way out of reach. (Man can't believe I said this on Intel products),
    And on Apple specifically, Metal Acceleration does help but it is hundred miles behind Nvidia in terms of performance even on something like M1/M2 Ultra Mac Studio.

    • @farid.2972
      @farid.2972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the biggest downsides of x86 machines is that they have not the same performance on battery compared to macs

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@farid.2972 I'm fully aware of that but as someone who are using M2 MacBook Air as a daily driver there's still lot more than just "performance on battery".
      I can't deny when I'm doing video editing all the available processing power is there even on battery but when I'm trying to access program that can make use of CUDA i.e PyTorch, Macbook is way too slow for that task even when I set the program to run on MPS,
      As for Windows, yes you'll hardly get any performance on Nvidia GPU on battery but at least you know that it is there as soon as you plug it to a power brick, when you want it.

    • @cristianarean647
      @cristianarean647 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe for you.. Linux is the way to go

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cristianarean647 I’m not talking about software. I’m talking about hardware acceleration

  • @Qrzychu92
    @Qrzychu92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I spent last week with M2 Pro 14 inch and... going back to T14 with Ryzen. Yes it's way slower, worse build quality etc, but man. MacOS makes the MacBook unusable for me. I made sure I will give myself a week to get used to it, but no. If you use it on a battery, on a balcony it's great. But as soon as you plug in a keyboard and mouse, external screen, the OS starts to show its colors.
    Why THE FFFFF do I have to click on a window to activate it first? That's hundreds of clicks per day and makes two screens useless. Why do I have to install 5 apps to make multitasking somewhat ok? The dock is a joke - no way to get two icons for two chrome profiles? no notifications on the dock? and why the traffic light buttons are in a slighlty different spot in each app? Oh, did I mention that you need external app to have the mouse scrolling the correct way and keep touchpad natural scroll at the same time?
    It's really sad that such great hardware is hindered by the software.

  • @no1gaming954
    @no1gaming954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xps get hot quickly

  • @abulka
    @abulka ปีที่แล้ว

    MacBook Air 15" is still plenty fast enough for developers and stays cool etc.

    • @leaht-pu1tm
      @leaht-pu1tm ปีที่แล้ว

      But can you go with just 8 GB of ram?

  • @smaceda
    @smaceda 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never in my life will buy another Dell, worst experience in my life. My XPS 15 9500 have lot of problems
    1. Some hardware problem that in the lapse of 2 days the SSD disconnects and shows an error screen.
    2. Battery inflated and trackpad stopped responding(now without battery)
    3. Some screen frezzes when external monitor used(the computer keep running, can hear sounds of interactions with mouse )
    4. Audio hardware is trash, in windows the volume of teams is very very low even at full volume but the other sounds are incredible loud. On Linux the mic is trash, it’s like talking from inside a blender.

  • @husamburhan6
    @husamburhan6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, but I think that the MacBook Air M2 is better (value/performance) especially if you used MacBook Air M2 14” model which is cost less

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends, because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

  • @padonker
    @padonker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apples to oranges IMHO. A developer would never go for an Air as the main machine but for a MBP.

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How dare you call my Dell an orange!

    • @padonker
      @padonker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey ... don't bash orange. It's my national colour ... @@AZisk

  • @ScottGrunwald
    @ScottGrunwald ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep in mind intel is still on 10nm too; impressive how performant it is compared to 5nm arm SoC. Im really interested to see how power efficient and powerful the x86 chips from intel are going to be when they get to 5nm.

    • @broccoloodle
      @broccoloodle ปีที่แล้ว

      So, what you meant is 5nm of banana is better than 10nm of apple 😂

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait to meteor lake next year, around 10-20% more power and 20% more efficiency

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@broccoloodle what? Apple is the one at 5nm, intel is at 10nm, 10 is worse than 5 bro

  • @schizofennec
    @schizofennec 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the air wins because the dell cant run xcode....

  • @jaredmathews2983
    @jaredmathews2983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any reductionist type of test like this is misleading. Faster does not always translate to better user experience in real world scenarios. Without considering the other unavoidable aspects of using each machine. I have owned two Dell XPS laptops a 13" and 15" both upgraded (not base models). Both had numerous issues including, charging, battery life, trackpad, audio jack, rebooting, and overheating. These are not issues that are due to me getting lemons, as the forums are full of similar complaints from other users that have been going on for many years. Dell is well aware of these issues, but for whatever reason, will not resolve them. I won't list the issues and hassles that arose as a consequence of using Microsoft Windows. It is my opinion that there is inevitably going to be detrimental consequences, when you have one company creating the hardware and another creating the operating system. Naturally, each company is not going to be fully transparent or fully cooperative with the other company even if they recognize it is a symbiotic relationship. While I am sure there is some segregation and separation with Apple's development processes, it would not be as pronounced as with the prior scenario.

  • @wololocute
    @wololocute ปีที่แล้ว +2

    XPS 15 cost is as much as 2 MacBook pro plus XPS only works in cold countries like US and Europe. XPS processor will get damaged at 40 to 50 degree summer room temperature.

    • @Luan-RT
      @Luan-RT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop spreading misinformation. I'm from Brazil (a very hot country), own an XPS 15 with an i9 and the CPU cores are always at 29-38° when doing light tasks and 50-80° when gaming or something more demanding.

    • @ScottGrunwald
      @ScottGrunwald ปีที่แล้ว

      I would recommend a Blade 16 or Legion Pro over the XPS. Similar prices (Razer a bit more). The display on the XPS are lagging behind, not efficient cooling for CPU + dedicated GPU.

    • @gtangari
      @gtangari ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Luan-RT I live in Germany and I had an XPS15 with i9 and no man, I live in a "cold" country, but the notebook was getting super hot immediately (and yes, throttling if you don't set the appropriate fan configuration which btw means: *noises*). My notebook also had the well known (but not recognized by Dell) problem with the hinges and at the trackpad. Dell: no more, thanks :)

    • @wololocute
      @wololocute ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Luan-RT I am talking about outside temperature of 40 to 50 degree and not core temperature

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

  • @bezeltipis
    @bezeltipis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $1000 more for 10s faster performance? I choose macbook air.. because of the trackpad 😁

  • @Abomin81onVlog
    @Abomin81onVlog ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love my xps15

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it’s the best windows laptop imo

    • @gtangari
      @gtangari ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AZisk unfortunately I need(ed) to deal a lots with Windows notebooks and rarely Dell have been the best (the only one ever satisfying me was the XPS13 3 years ago). In my opinion, the best Windows laptops are still the ThinkPads: the X1 (Extreme) in particular.

    • @Abomin81onVlog
      @Abomin81onVlog ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I've tried many and it's a step above the others.

  • @AIandVisuals
    @AIandVisuals ปีที่แล้ว

    It isn't fair to compare two notebooks with different number of cores.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, only thing to check is size, weight and price on a laptop

  • @jmpersic
    @jmpersic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Air catches up fast when you factor in the time you'll spend struggling with Windows Updates, LOL

  • @espi742
    @espi742 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my experience WSL is generally faster than native Windows for most development workloads haha.

  • @kristhianznr
    @kristhianznr ปีที่แล้ว

    The XPS hides muscle under that beautiful finish, but I think that in real use it would end up having heat issues, I still love it.
    Have you tried the Asus Zenbook Pro 16X OLED w/ i9 13th gen & RTX 4070? It's the same price as the XPS in this video, and its reviews are excellent.

  • @mr.morales0707
    @mr.morales0707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would never use Windows Laptops, just Macs

    • @vasylzhydun8879
      @vasylzhydun8879 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?)

    • @mr.morales0707
      @mr.morales0707 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vasylzhydun8879 cause windows is literally sh*t, and the laptops suck, they’re slow

    • @divitvaghani158
      @divitvaghani158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mr.morales0707😂😂 I guess you haven't use very high end machine

    • @mr.morales0707
      @mr.morales0707 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@divitvaghani158 yes I have, still every windows laptop from different companies has its own few good things about it, though no Laptops unite all those features in a single device like the MacBooks

    • @Rusty01
      @Rusty01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mr.morales0707slow ? Bro what windows laptop you using, omg typical apple fanboy behaviour

  • @jccnguyen
    @jccnguyen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unplug them and the Dell will suffer 😋

  • @royendgel
    @royendgel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First?

  • @venussmodzhd1886
    @venussmodzhd1886 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Second?

  • @theforce8929
    @theforce8929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Third?

  • @endaksi_channel
    @endaksi_channel ปีที่แล้ว

    Why some think that developer wants only the fastest CPU on Earth? Developers are just the common people like the others. They want a quality tool for a job, a tool that they can rely on.

  • @booksquotes948
    @booksquotes948 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't build iOS apps on windows laptop

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nope, sure can’t.

  • @goobfilmcast4239
    @goobfilmcast4239 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apple's Soccer Mom / Starbucks Squatter $1600.00 laptop (8 core/16GB) holds its own against a Dell XPS $2600.00 (20 core/32 GB RAM) x86-based Developer-class laptop. Yawn....what else is new ??

    • @ScottGrunwald
      @ScottGrunwald ปีที่แล้ว

      XPS was running 14 Cores (20 logical threads)

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScottGrunwald well....that explains everything /s

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he has the rtx 4070, with the rtx 4050 is 1500, and this test didnt use the gpu, you could also get the intel arc gpu that is way cheaper 1200 and get a cheaper faster cpu laptop than the mac

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracoxruiz2563 Nope ...The 1200 and 1500 Dollar version of this Dell would get BLOWN AWAY by the MBA. That's why he had to use the "upgraded" Unit to make it even close to a fair fight. Not worth anywhere near the $2600 asking price. BTW, I would rather use a base M1 MBA than ANY flagship x86-based laptop...anyday.

    • @dracoxruiz2563
      @dracoxruiz2563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goobfilmcast4239 this test dont use the gpu, only cpu, the result will be the same, because the cpu is the same, the i7-13700h, also from 16 to 32gb ram in this case doesnt make any change

  • @YouGotPropofol
    @YouGotPropofol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fans running when idling. No thanks.