Any time I'm using a long extension (such as accessing a crank bolt through the front-right wheel well during a timing belt replacement), I like to support the near end of the extension with a jackstand at the appropriate height -- this allows me to put my ratchet or breaker bar at the 9 o'clock position and just press down. This way I deliver all the force cleanly to the target area without concern about twisting or damaging any tools or bolts.
The impact gun is not imparting any force that will help the tie rod come loose. It's just going to break something in the tool chain. The breaker bar IS imparting rotational force on the tie rod end. Thanks for the vid. I never even knew about this tool. It'll be my next purchase 😁
There shouldn't be any Red Thread Locker on it. Someone must have changed them out before and used it. But a good learner to be on the lookout for it. Most inners just come right off.
just replaced the tie rods on my 1975 mustang and this tool is a must have. the rods werent flat, they were round so we couldnt figure out how to get them off. ended up using a pipe wrench. wish i would have known about this tool beforehand because thats what it looks like it takes to get them off. it had spots for the splines
I used one, worked great in my case on a '95 T-bird, but in use the U-bolt deforms or bends just a hair, enough that the threaded ends get close enough to make easy insertion into saddle a PITA, but a short pipe and trip to the vise to spread them back a hair cures it. I collected both inner and outer tie rod ends and boots before taking the OEMs off as single units, I matched lengths, finished up, had 1/16" toe out. Steering wheel was centered though, so very easy adjustments and re-check fixed it all. 5/32" toe in now.
I spent 2 days trying to get my inner tie rods off using the tube tool from Harbor freight. Your advice of using a bunch of extensions on this cheaper tool I got from Amazon got the inner tie rod off in less than a minute. Thank you!
But he is 100% correct about removing both inner and outer together. I have done that several times over the years and it makes it easy and fairly accurate way to put the new components back in. Twice I never even needed and alignment and the shop guy was surprised. I said, hey, it is not rocket science to measure and replace
An accurate way to measure is with a tape measure from outer brake rotor surface to outer brake rotor surface with wheels pointed straight - then adjust the tie rods to match after replacing one at a time. Adjust after each to match measurement.
@@donmoore7785 I agree with the equality in accuracy, at least from a probability point of view, so,, how long does it take to do it this way vs the "remove together method?" after all, time is money!😀
@@jimmysapien9961I just put a small strip of white teflon tape at the very top of inner tierod bolt or count the threads. The alignment remains the same if not better.
1:20 nice monster/mountain wrench there. I purchased a used set and end up using them on almost every automotive job. Incredibly necessary set of tools. My 14mm broke recently so I gotta replace it!
My joints broke about an hour ago. I was hoping there was a simple tool to help. Thansk nic....dont listen to rude peep. At least you posted a vid to try and help.
@@RussMeister70 I have to do mine I haven't started on it yet waiting for that tool to get here from Amazon. I was thinking of trying an impact, but I don't think the impact would apply the proper leverage.
Red loctite... That makes sense as to why my inner wont budge. All the rental tools are broken garbage here too so I'll probably have to use the clamp method since a pipe wrench is having a bad time as well.
Wasted 2 hrs today on my Maserati Quattroporte. The inner tie rods are smooth with no flat spots. I found your video and saw this tool. Bought one and will give it a go tonight! 5 Oct 2024.
impact tool wont work!!!!!! even if it didnt had lock tie!!! i never make bad coments to nobody. but what are you try to turn is the center of the rod not the center of the tool.
Lmao I knew it wouldn't work because of exactly what you said .I know the impact isn't isn't in the center of the tool so it wouldn't work but I was curious. So I agree with you 😂
I have one and use it for pro use.Have not broken it yet although it has a lifetime warranty on it.I count the number of turns when taking off the out tie rod ends with the inner tie rod still in.Just write the number inside the wheel well.
I just did inner tie rods on a friends car and they wouldn't come off at all with impact but came off fairly easily when I used my big breaker bar on the end of the tie rod remover tool
Blue thread locker is better for this. Red is normally heat to release. For my car the inner tierod spec for torque is 58ftpnds. Don't use a an impact for this, you can easily break break blue lock tight with this tool and a standard break bar. Tightening to 58ftpounds with blue thread locker and the inner tierod lock washer...she aint going no where!
Yes I normally use blue thread locker on inner tie rods. I don't like how some inner tie rods come with supplied red thread locker. I just use my blue that I have.
Better safe than sorry. I'd rather not have a tie rod un thread itself while on the express way. Also, many tie rods come with thread locked in the box . I just did a inner tie rod yesterday that came with blue thread locker....
Words can't express the gratitude, so I hit like and subscribe button just for your posting of this video. You Sir are a life saver. Thank you again. Keep the good work. :)
I have this tool and used it successfully on several cars for inner tie rods and other purposes. Also, I use blue thread locker. Don't use the more permanent red thread locker.
Agree. And when using long extensions, it's better to use a long one piece and not several of them hooked together. Each joint makes it that much weaker and requires more torque.
Great job 👍 bruh!, I have a tie rod job to do tomorrow, am a mechanic from Lagos Nigeria, I will go look for the tie rod tools and buy. God bless you! Merry Christmas 🌲🎄🌲 and a wonderful new year!
Hmmm. I do like the simplicity of that tool. Looks like something I can make pretty easily on my own. It is almost a heavy duty muffler\exhaust pipe type of clamp with the addition of the 3/8 socket. But that tool is off center as far as torque is concerned, so you are not really getting all the torque you would want, but it should be enough
I'm gonna buy one today. My inner tierod is bent bad from previous owner wreck. I can't get the tube type on it. And dont have the resources for a cut off wheel where its located so hopefully this will help.
@@whitehistorymonth3563 Are you sure it's not a hardened steel? I have a bent inner tie rod end I was thinking of trying to cut, but I'm not sure if it's a hardened steel?
At any rate, i changed all the tie rod joints and ball joints on my folks' 97 caravan and only used the usual tools and a pair of vise grips and a pipe wrench on the inner tie rods, wasn't hard at all.
It's easy if there is room. I did a renault and fml passenger side easy. Drivers side... too much stuff in the way to get to it. So this tool does the job for "tight" spots.
My inner tie rods on my 99 Durango 4x4 is rounded with two grooves. Used oreillys $104 tool and didn’t even work. I hope this tool will work because I can’t get a pipe wrench in there at all.
heat will break down Loctite. Throw a torch on the tie rod and you will break down the Loctite and make the female thread grow a tiny bit which will help loosen it.
Never use heat on steering components! While it does help loosen things, you really don't know how much heat and subsequent temperature increase you put in. Heat is bad and can radically change the strength of the piece
If you heat use a heat gun or propane. Don't use an acetylene torch. You do not want to get things too hot. Even so, before using heat try raping the inner tire rods with a hammer. A lot of the time the shock will help loosen the inner tie rod. I use the same trick on brake bleeder nuts. A lot of the time this will make the difference between coming loose or breaking.
@@stanleytolle416 Right heating it red hot would change the property of the metal if anything it would make it softer but a little bit of heat from map gas or propane would not hurt it any.
it pisses me off when they put red threadlocker on stuff that needs to be unbolted and changed. Certain year Chevy's did that and the shop manual says you can't change the inner tie rods - you have to replace the "relay rod" (as they call it).
If you have the torque wrench off to the side (e.g. the drive hole for the tool is directly below the tie rod, and the wrench bar is parallel to the ground) then the torque setting will be correct (so 90Nm on the torque wrench will correspond with 90Nm at the centreline of the tie rod) If you have the torque wrench in line with the tool, you are adding leverage so need to reduce the setting on the torque wrench proportionally (e.g. if your torque wrench is 50cm, and the centre of the tie rod is 5cm away from the centre of the torque wrench drive, then you need to reduce the torque setting on the wrench from 90 to about 80Nm). Torque settings are rarely so critical that a 10% difference will cause you problems, and things like tie rods and TREs are often just done up to FT setting with no issues.
@@mrbreezeet1 your going to need room under it ... I put it on and broke it lose with the pipe wrench but I pushed it with my feet from the front lol hey you got to emphasis I had no other way to the store and I did it to my 06 charger
Still tho which I hv, do u want to take the chance once you get to that point of not having enough clearance? Might just get more extensions just in case. Lol
Yes - I ran a line from the hole in the end of the wrench handle to a come-along winch attached to the front tow hook. The inner tie rod is not that tightly torqued but it may have thread lock on it. Not enough room to put a cheater pipe on the wrench unless you have it up on a lift. Make sure you have the wrench and line rigged STRAIGHT - do not pull at an angle. For the driver side run the line back to the rear bumper. Only problem is you can't torque the new tie rods to spec. Just wrench it as tight as you can with red thread lock and you should be fine. I had to do this because my Tundra inner had such a large diameter that the rented tool would not fit over it. good luck. @@sarahalmendarez8008
I checked Harbor Freight and they don't have it. maybe it would be nice if you could give a tool name and or number. it would make searching for it a little easier.
@@themechanic6117 None of the auto parts stores where I live had this tool in store. including Harbor Freight, they didn't even carry it. however at the O'Reilly auto parts store. they gave me a computer printout with all the information on it. of the one that I could order though them. it's made by Performance Tool, - Inner Tie Rod Tool # W83027 PFM. they did have another Tie Rod Tool where the Tie Rod went into this tube that was part of the tool. but I couldn't use that one because my Tie Rod was bent like pretzel.
Inner tie rod ends are supposed to ( always ) not sometimes have red locktite, it would be a very dangerous outcome if a inner tie rod comes loose!! Same with intermediate steering shafts pinch bolts you absolutely never want to lose control of the direction your car is going at what ever speed you may be traveling!! Could be headed straight towards a semi in the oncoming lane, could be driving on a road along side a lake or ocean that wouldnt be good at all especially if windows are up!! Or even worse could be on a road with a steep drop off!!!
@@themechanic6117 Do you guys think there is room on a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix to use a pipe wrench? If not do you think there is enough room to use this tool you have on the 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix?
Some cars you can use a crows foot.. some hands have an inner tie Rob that's to long for tool. And is in center of engine bay. I've used a 29mm or 1⅛ sinex crows foot. Grind 1 side to make it thinner. Use ½ drive long socket wrench.
There's no way an impact gun would of worked with that setup, for one you've got torque loss due to the fact you're using adapters and extensions combined.. but the main contributing factor is that it's not centre on the part you're removing, all your doing is trying to spin the gun in your hand or worst case snap the 1/2 reducer
@@themechanic6117 lol maybe the vibrations could of possibly helped some at best, its a strange tool, I have never seen it before but it looks like it could get the job done as a last resort, I can see myself snapping many extension bars with that >
that pad lock lookin thing doesn't look like it's gripping anything! looks like it'll spin on the rod. you can rent proper tools that fit exactly over the inner tie rod.
You can rent the tool if you can get to the parts store I cannot get to the parts store so I have to get this one off Amazon and hope for the best. This has been covered at least five times in the comments already.
I am just replacing my whole inner and outer tie rod on my derby car so i dont have to worry about taking it apart, my whole tie rod just bent at almost a 90* angle
@@themechanic6117 fr go look at my channel i talk about how i needa replace it and i will probably make another video after i get it fixed and link ur video
That's another option. This tool is cheap so you don't have to front the $95. And you don't have to make trips to the auto parts store every time you need it. Thanks for watching
I hate these comments cuz my outter rod is seized (not the nut on the center but the part to twist off) and i tried just doing the inner to remove entire thing, couldnt get it loose for the life of me, literally had to put everything back on and drive with my jacked up swaying car
Use a torch. Heat up the outer tie rod where the threads are. Hold the inner tie rod with a wrench and use another wrench to turn off the outer tie rod while its hot
I did not see you "un-stake" the keeper behind the tie rod. Most have such a keeper to prevent the rod from un threading, and many can be "un-staked" before unthreading the rod - making it easier.
I have a review of that tool as well . when doing a lot of inner tie rods youll find that one tool isnt enough to get the job done. You need different variations of that tool
I never knew you made vids till I seen your comment on our friend Ivan's channel yesterday. I look forward to seeing more of what you do. Thanks for watching buddy.
@@element-ki3gz He said he has that other tool, here's an example my car is broke down I don't have no way to get to the parts store I can get this tool off Amazon for $15 so that's what I'm getting and I'm going to try it. If you read all of the comments the author stated he has that other tool and it does not work on every car
Sadly.... where is the common sense in the beginning of this video. Some of you will know what I am talking about. Though thanks for sharing about this tool.
Here is why. Yesterday, I rented the proper tool to install a new inner tie rod end on my son's Nissan Sentra 05.. The new tie rod end had the proper "notch" for the tool to grab. All set...when I removed the boot from the old inner tie rod end, the tie rod end was smooth like a baby's butt all around, no notch. Put the wheel back on and went to the local Princess Auto and bought the tool ($13.00) in the video (BTW, I did the job yesterday and watch the video today....). It work like a charm to remove the old tie rod end and I used the proper tool to install the new "notched" tie rod end. This is why.
Any time I'm using a long extension (such as accessing a crank bolt through the front-right wheel well during a timing belt replacement), I like to support the near end of the extension with a jackstand at the appropriate height -- this allows me to put my ratchet or breaker bar at the 9 o'clock position and just press down. This way I deliver all the force cleanly to the target area without concern about twisting or damaging any tools or bolts.
+Really Happenings that's a really good idea, I thought of that as well but I get lazy lol
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We're do I get tool
Great advise, this should save a few broke extentions in future.
I would add that to loosen, you want the breaker at 9 o'clock, nowhere else, and the jackstand close to the near end of the extension.
The impact gun is not imparting any force that will help the tie rod come loose. It's just going to break something in the tool chain. The breaker bar IS imparting rotational force on the tie rod end. Thanks for the vid. I never even knew about this tool. It'll be my next purchase 😁
Never use an impact wrench to tighten the rod. This will destroy the transmission.
@@alchemik2010 tie rod isn't connected to the transmission in any way 🤣
@@ryanfaulkes7469 this is a google translation error. it's not about the gearbox but about the steering gear.
@@alchemik2010 how would using impact wrench, damage steering rack?
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Thank you so much brother 7 years later and it definitely helped me out that's a great technique you have
I like the tip of keeping the inner and outer tie rod together...I'm going to give that a shot
Yep
There shouldn't be any Red Thread Locker on it. Someone must have changed them out before and used it. But a good learner to be on the lookout for it. Most inners just come right off.
just replaced the tie rods on my 1975 mustang and this tool is a must have. the rods werent flat, they were round so we couldnt figure out how to get them off. ended up using a pipe wrench.
wish i would have known about this tool beforehand because thats what it looks like it takes to get them off. it had spots for the splines
I used one, worked great in my case on a '95 T-bird, but in use the U-bolt deforms or bends just a hair, enough that the threaded ends get close enough to make easy insertion into saddle a PITA, but a short pipe and trip to the vise to spread them back a hair cures it. I collected both inner and outer tie rod ends and boots before taking the OEMs off as single units, I matched lengths, finished up, had 1/16" toe out. Steering wheel was centered though, so very easy adjustments and re-check fixed it all. 5/32" toe in now.
I spent 2 days trying to get my inner tie rods off using the tube tool from Harbor freight. Your advice of using a bunch of extensions on this cheaper tool I got from Amazon got the inner tie rod off in less than a minute. Thank you!
I had no luck with the “OEM Tool” I just ordered this part I hope it works to remove my inner tie rod 🙏🏽
But he is 100% correct about removing both inner and outer together. I have done that several times over the years and it makes it easy and fairly accurate way to put the new components back in. Twice I never even needed and alignment and the shop guy was surprised. I said, hey, it is not rocket science to measure and replace
Yes I prefer to remove them together. Every time ive done that the alignment seems to be unchanged
If you measure it before you take off then No Problem !
An accurate way to measure is with a tape measure from outer brake rotor surface to outer brake rotor surface with wheels pointed straight - then adjust the tie rods to match after replacing one at a time. Adjust after each to match measurement.
@@donmoore7785 I agree with the equality in accuracy, at least from a probability point of view, so,, how long does it take to do it this way vs the "remove together method?" after all, time is money!😀
@@jimmysapien9961I just put a small strip of white teflon tape at the very top of inner tierod bolt or count the threads. The alignment remains the same if not better.
New subscriber who is almost ready to change the struts, tie rods and your videos are really good. You speak very clear.
Check out my other tie rod tool video. Its much easier to use that this one
1:20 nice monster/mountain wrench there. I purchased a used set and end up using them on almost every automotive job. Incredibly necessary set of tools. My 14mm broke recently so I gotta replace it!
They are very useful! If I lost any one of them I'd immediately replace it 👍
Now if only I had some warm dry weather to do this in.
Thank for the Video knowing there is Red Lock-tight really helps me
My joints broke about an hour ago. I was hoping there was a simple tool to help. Thansk nic....dont listen to rude peep. At least you posted a vid to try and help.
I knew using the impact gun on it wouldnt work 😂 it certainly stirs up the comments lol
Sometimes it doesn't hurt to try. Sometimes ya get lucky.
@@RussMeister70
I have to do mine I haven't started on it yet waiting for that tool to get here from Amazon. I was thinking of trying an impact, but I don't think the impact would apply the proper leverage.
Red loctite... That makes sense as to why my inner wont budge. All the rental tools are broken garbage here too so I'll probably have to use the clamp method since a pipe wrench is having a bad time as well.
Wasted 2 hrs today on my Maserati Quattroporte. The inner tie rods are smooth with no flat spots. I found your video and saw this tool. Bought one and will give it a go tonight! 5 Oct 2024.
How’d it go?
Thank you! I friggin hated this tool but it worked. I needed a foot and a half worth of extensions so definitely get some
It can be a frustrating tool but it works👍
Your demonstration helped me decide this tool is definitely not the one I will get to do the inner tie rod job.
Check my other video for inner tie rods. The tool in the other video is my go to, i use it everytime and it works
impact tool wont work!!!!!! even if it didnt had lock tie!!! i never make bad coments to nobody. but what are you try to turn is the center of the rod not the center of the tool.
Lmao I knew it wouldn't work because of exactly what you said .I know the impact isn't isn't in the center of the tool so it wouldn't work but I was curious. So I agree with you 😂
The mech a nic thanks for the vid! im not a mecanic. your vid help me out saving me som $.
Thanks for watching
Yes, the impact tool was not working on the centre of the access, so no chance, whereas using a breaker bar works like a lever motion
Oh no, i did something that i knew wouldnt work. Curiosity got the better of me. Sorry i ruined your day 😂thanks for watching
if you use a propane torch on the head of the tie rod it will soften up the red loctite and make it easier
I think that’s what I gotta do bcuz my inner tie rod is stuck
Thanks for using that tool. My outer tie rod is stuck so i needed a different method of removing the inner. 👌
It's a great tool for when the outer won't come off
I have one and use it for pro use.Have not broken it yet although it has a lifetime warranty on it.I count the number of turns when taking off the out tie rod ends with the inner tie rod still in.Just write the number inside the wheel well.
+wafrederick nice to hear it holds up to that abuse. Thanks for watching.
I just did inner tie rods on a friends car and they wouldn't come off at all with impact but came off fairly easily when I used my big breaker bar on the end of the tie rod remover tool
Blue thread locker is better for this. Red is normally heat to release. For my car the inner tierod spec for torque is 58ftpnds. Don't use a an impact for this, you can easily break break blue lock tight with this tool and a standard break bar. Tightening to 58ftpounds with blue thread locker and the inner tierod lock washer...she aint going no where!
Yes I normally use blue thread locker on inner tie rods. I don't like how some inner tie rods come with supplied red thread locker. I just use my blue that I have.
You wanna make it hard for the next guy to remove I’ve never ever used thread tightener just torque to spec
Better safe than sorry. I'd rather not have a tie rod un thread itself while on the express way. Also, many tie rods come with thread locked in the box . I just did a inner tie rod yesterday that came with blue thread locker....
can that tool be used to TIGHTEN the INNER TIE ROD?
Yes you can
You made my work a lot easier. I did the same exact steps and successfully removed both inner/outer tie rod assembly from both wheels. Thanks!
Words can't express the gratitude, so I hit like and subscribe button just for your posting of this video.
You Sir are a life saver. Thank you again.
Keep the good work. :)
Thanks for watching
Mines just slipping i cant get this tie rod off and im not rly sure what I should do at this point
I have this tool and used it successfully on several cars for inner tie rods and other purposes. Also, I use blue thread locker. Don't use the more permanent red thread locker.
I agree on the blue thread locker
I agree on the blue thread locker
How much is it ?
Do you know if this tool works on a 2001 Grand Prix SE?
@@paulcherry1520
About$15.00 on Amazon.
Gotta use heat a lot of times with red use blue instead good show
FYI the longer the extension is, the less torque you have
Agree. And when using long extensions, it's better to use a long one piece and not several of them hooked together. Each joint makes it that much weaker and requires more torque.
Used one recently. Worked great.
Great job 👍 bruh!, I have a tie rod job to do tomorrow, am a mechanic from Lagos Nigeria, I will go look for the tie rod tools and buy. God bless you! Merry Christmas 🌲🎄🌲 and a wonderful new year!
Check out my other video for another inner tie rod tool that works better
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Hmmm. I do like the simplicity of that tool. Looks like something I can make pretty easily on my own. It is almost a heavy duty muffler\exhaust pipe type of clamp with the addition of the 3/8 socket. But that tool is off center as far as torque is concerned, so you are not really getting all the torque you would want, but it should be enough
I thought the tool looked like the bastard love child on a tequila bender from a muffler clamp and wheel puller.
No reason to take time to make one. They are inexpensive.
That provides a nice option at least. It's worth a try, thanks.
+wyattoneable it hasn't failed me yet and I've had it for a few years.
I'm gonna buy one today. My inner tierod is bent bad from previous owner wreck. I can't get the tube type on it. And dont have the resources for a cut off wheel where its located so hopefully this will help.
Good luck
What do you mean you don't have the tools to cut it off? You can cut it off with a damn hacksaw, LOL. It's like 20 bucks tops
😂👍
@@whitehistorymonth3563
Are you sure it's not a hardened steel?
I have a bent inner tie rod end I was thinking of trying to cut, but I'm not sure if it's a hardened steel?
If I have to cut a bent inner tie rod I use a grinder with a cut off disk
Just used this 100 per cent brilliant first time works 💪
Glad it worked for you
Used it on or PT Cruiser this weekend..worked great.
Good to hear 👍
At any rate, i changed all the tie rod joints and ball joints on my folks' 97 caravan and only used the usual tools and a pair of vise grips and a pipe wrench on the inner tie rods, wasn't hard at all.
+Nigon Kouk some put up more of a fight than others.good job
It's easy if there is room. I did a renault and fml passenger side easy. Drivers side... too much stuff in the way to get to it. So this tool does the job for "tight" spots.
It sure does work good when you're tight on space
My inner tie rods on my 99 Durango 4x4 is rounded with two grooves. Used oreillys $104 tool and didn’t even work. I hope this tool will work because I can’t get a pipe wrench in there at all.
Did it work??
Yes it did ! I fought with auto zone rental tool for a long time., I returned it and bought this tool and it busted it lose in no time.
Great video. Never use the red stuff, always the blue if @ all.
I agree
That is neat and looks simple but doable.
+Sir Sweetness can't get easier than this!
heat will break down Loctite. Throw a torch on the tie rod and you will break down the Loctite and make the female thread grow a tiny bit which will help loosen it.
Never use heat on steering components! While it does help loosen things, you really don't know how much heat and subsequent temperature increase you put in. Heat is bad and can radically change the strength of the piece
If you heat use a heat gun or propane. Don't use an acetylene torch. You do not want to get things too hot. Even so, before using heat try raping the inner tire rods with a hammer. A lot of the time the shock will help loosen the inner tie rod. I use the same trick on brake bleeder nuts. A lot of the time this will make the difference between coming loose or breaking.
@@gk10002000 300-400 degrees won't change the metalugery at all but will make the part grow.
@@stanleytolle416
Right heating it red hot would change the property of the metal if anything it would make it softer but a little bit of heat from map gas or propane would not hurt it any.
it pisses me off when they put red threadlocker on stuff that needs to be unbolted and changed. Certain year Chevy's did that and the shop manual says you can't change the inner tie rods - you have to replace the "relay rod" (as they call it).
my question is, when you install the new one how does this effect torque spec since it's off to the side?
I suppose it would throw torque specs off. Id recommend using a traditional inner tie rod tool to tighten to spec
It's only like 40 something pound torque required. Just do it by hand. A quarter-turn should do it. Not that critical.
If you have the torque wrench off to the side (e.g. the drive hole for the tool is directly below the tie rod, and the wrench bar is parallel to the ground) then the torque setting will be correct (so 90Nm on the torque wrench will correspond with 90Nm at the centreline of the tie rod)
If you have the torque wrench in line with the tool, you are adding leverage so need to reduce the setting on the torque wrench proportionally (e.g. if your torque wrench is 50cm, and the centre of the tie rod is 5cm away from the centre of the torque wrench drive, then you need to reduce the torque setting on the wrench from 90 to about 80Nm).
Torque settings are rarely so critical that a 10% difference will cause you problems, and things like tie rods and TREs are often just done up to FT setting with no issues.
@@whitehistorymonth3563 yes
Just had this issue I just used a pipe wrench
Did it come off easy with the pipe wrench? I might try that. I have to replace the inner and outer tie rods, pitman and idler arm on a Toyota truck.
What kind of car?
Do you think a pipe wrench would work on a 2001 Grand Prix SE?
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I don't think a vehicle with a pitman arm and an idler arm has this type of inner tie rod end?
@@mrbreezeet1 your going to need room under it ... I put it on and broke it lose with the pipe wrench but I pushed it with my feet from the front lol hey you got to emphasis I had no other way to the store and I did it to my 06 charger
Do you have to take the outer tie rod off to remove the inner? I can't get the outer off but have to change the inner anyway
small extension an the smaller size breaker bar would have worked being pulled down
Still tho which I hv, do u want to take the chance once you get to that point of not having enough clearance? Might just get more extensions just in case. Lol
Use a cheater pipe on a breaker bar, not a ratchet.
Exactly
pipe wrench connected to a come-along works.
Really? Because im about to try that
Yes - I ran a line from the hole in the end of the wrench handle to a come-along winch attached to the front tow hook. The inner tie rod is not that tightly torqued but it may have thread lock on it. Not enough room to put a cheater pipe on the wrench unless you have it up on a lift. Make sure you have the wrench and line rigged STRAIGHT - do not pull at an angle. For the driver side run the line back to the rear bumper. Only problem is you can't torque the new tie rods to spec. Just wrench it as tight as you can with red thread lock and you should be fine. I had to do this because my Tundra inner had such a large diameter that the rented tool would not fit over it. good luck. @@sarahalmendarez8008
My only problem with the tool is why they didnt make it in 1/2 instead of 3/8?
Check out the other tool I use for this. It uses a 1/2 drive .
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Goin to try this tool tomorrow hopefully it works because the other tools ddnt mite heat it up abit also
I checked Harbor Freight and they don't have it. maybe it would be nice if you could give a tool name and or number. it would make searching for it a little easier.
The name of the part is in the title "inner tie rod tool" , you can easily find them in a autoparts store like autozone or advance autoparts...
@@themechanic6117 None of the auto parts stores where I live had this tool in store. including Harbor Freight, they didn't even carry it. however at the O'Reilly auto parts store. they gave me a computer printout with all the information on it. of the one that I could order though them. it's made by Performance Tool, - Inner Tie Rod Tool # W83027 PFM. they did have another Tie Rod Tool where the Tie Rod went into this tube that was part of the tool. but I couldn't use that one because my Tie Rod was bent like pretzel.
Based off the comments. I'm assuming i can use blue instead of red when i replace my tie rod?
Yes blue is what you want to use
Can I use that tool on my 2006 f150
Most cars it works but i cant answer your question with certainty
Worked like a charm. Thanks.
Great. Thanks for watching
Inner tie rod ends are supposed to ( always ) not sometimes have red locktite, it would be a very dangerous outcome if a inner tie rod comes loose!! Same with intermediate steering shafts pinch bolts you absolutely never want to lose control of the direction your car is going at what ever speed you may be traveling!! Could be headed straight towards a semi in the oncoming lane, could be driving on a road along side a lake or ocean that wouldnt be good at all especially if windows are up!! Or even worse could be on a road with a steep drop off!!!
Heres a tip. Get a pipe wrench, and turn the wheel. Then you wont need some fancy pants adapter or all those extensions.........
Ive done that for years.it doesnt work for every car
@@themechanic6117
Do you guys think there is room on a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix to use a pipe wrench?
If not do you think there is enough room to use this tool you have on the 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix?
It does not damage the rack when used with an impact tool.??
That was for Laugh, you can't use a impact on this tool
Some cars you can use a crows foot.. some hands have an inner tie Rob that's to long for tool. And is in center of engine bay. I've used a 29mm or 1⅛ sinex crows foot. Grind 1 side to make it thinner. Use ½ drive long socket wrench.
He said pick up plenty of extensions but with that cost might as well get the actual removal tool for about 59$ at hf
Could you heat 🔥 it up for the red threadlock to loosen?
Yes you can
There's no way an impact gun would of worked with that setup, for one you've got torque loss due to the fact you're using adapters and extensions combined.. but the main contributing factor is that it's not centre on the part you're removing, all your doing is trying to spin the gun in your hand or worst case snap the 1/2 reducer
I'm aware of that, it was something silly that I knew wouldn't work. Lol
@@themechanic6117 lol maybe the vibrations could of possibly helped some at best, its a strange tool, I have never seen it before but it looks like it could get the job done as a last resort, I can see myself snapping many extension bars with that >
Maybe the vibrations did help😂 surprisingly this tool has gotten me out of my tight places where my normal tie rod tool just didn't work.
Pipe wrench and a cheater bar.. my project for tomorrow
I need help my tie rod spins so the lock can’t even make the play since it moves with the tie rod
that pad lock lookin thing doesn't look like it's gripping anything! looks like it'll spin on the rod. you can rent proper tools that fit exactly over the inner tie rod.
This tool actually works well. I have many different tools for removing inner tie rods. This is just one of them
You can rent the tool if you can get to the parts store I cannot get to the parts store so I have to get this one off Amazon and hope for the best.
This has been covered at least five times in the comments already.
I am just replacing my whole inner and outer tie rod on my derby car so i dont have to worry about taking it apart, my whole tie rod just bent at almost a 90* angle
That's crazy! 🤣
@@themechanic6117 fr go look at my channel i talk about how i needa replace it and i will probably make another video after i get it fixed and link ur video
I went to autozone they let me use their tool for 95 dollar i took it back, and i got my money back
That's another option. This tool is cheap so you don't have to front the $95. And you don't have to make trips to the auto parts store every time you need it. Thanks for watching
I would grind some Ridges on top and bottom of tool, give some Bite, inside . Nice vid!
It has ridges all around.
So on the passenger side(front) u twist to the left?
To remove it yes
@@themechanic6117 thank you for the reply
I think red is ok. But only applied to a few of the last threads
that's a handy little guy!
+Thomas EXOVCDS I'm surprised it's worked every time over the years and the threads and nuts haven't stripped yet .
It's Thomas! Awesome!
I hate these comments cuz my outter rod is seized (not the nut on the center but the part to twist off) and i tried just doing the inner to remove entire thing, couldnt get it loose for the life of me, literally had to put everything back on and drive with my jacked up swaying car
Use a torch. Heat up the outer tie rod where the threads are. Hold the inner tie rod with a wrench and use another wrench to turn off the outer tie rod while its hot
@@themechanic6117 its pretty seized to the point it started slipping on part i held inner tie rod at and kinda stripped it
That ball joint is so exposed to the elements. That can't be right, can it?
The rubber boot goes over it...
@@themechanic6117 Cool
Could I use this to tighten the tie rod down?
Yes you can
Excellent job
Thank you
Name of tool?
Inner tie rod tool
How to replace the inner and outer tie rod
2003 Ford Taurus
Make sure you turn the steering wheel towards the side you're working on!
you mean away from the side you're working on...if you're working on left, turn it to the right and vice versa
@@slin0053 It depends on the vehicle
@@Diamond_79 serious question what vehicles have a rack where if you turn the wheel to the right, the tie rod goes to the right?
It depends if the car has the tie rods in front of the wheel or behind the wheels
@@themechanic6117 oooh never thought about that
Just use the pipe wrench so much easier and so much cheaper. .
Pipe wrench wont work for every car
@@themechanic6117 do you think there is room for a pipe wrench on a 2001 Grand Prix SE?
Before I found out about this. I used vice grips
I used giant pliers lol
Nice video thanks!!
Thanks for watching
great video.thank you
What about the bellow boot? How would that come off?
Remove the outer tie rod
Well done Sir
The problem is you are using the wrong pivot point to rotate the tool.
I know
we’re do you get this tool ???
You can get it at your local auto parts store
@@themechanic6117 price wise ?
I did not see you "un-stake" the keeper behind the tie rod. Most have such a keeper to prevent the rod from un threading, and many can be "un-staked" before unthreading the rod - making it easier.
His mostly likely didn’t have one , he kept mentioning red thread locker so I’m sure that was used instead .
$40 for the pittsburgh slide over tool with all the adapters
I have a review of that tool as well . when doing a lot of inner tie rods youll find that one tool isnt enough to get the job done. You need different variations of that tool
Gotta make this vid the next big hit!!!
Apparently there's some controversy over using a impact gun on it. I knew it wouldn't work but curiosity got the better of me 😂
19 haters so far 😂
Can't please everyone 💪
@@themechanic6117 yes I was thinking of trying and impact wrench but I think the geometry might be working against us as well?
How you tighten it new one ??
With the same tool
Now that's for me then. Nice one buddy.
+STEVE ROB Thanks Steve ,I enjoy your videos
I never knew you made vids till I seen your comment on our friend Ivan's channel yesterday. I look forward to seeing more of what you do. Thanks for watching buddy.
@@themechanic6117
I hope this tool works properly for me on my 01 Grand Prix.
What is the name of that tool and were can i get it from here in the states
ken pryor if you're on mobile, underneath the video you can buy the tool from Amazon
auto zone sale it too
You can rent the inner tie rod removal tool at any autoparts !!
@@pedrohdz1964 hown much ?
@@paulcherry1520
It's about $15 at Amazon I think it's about $23 though at AutoZone
Thank you
Thanks for watching
Rent the tool at auto zone ....
YES ! THNKS DAM ITS PISSING ME OFFWATCHING HIM DO THS AND ITS NOT MY RIDE LOL
Autozone is not renting that flashlight tool any more now it’s just the universal one that he’s using
I tried renting it but the universal one wont work on my car, so im glad this atleast exists as an alternative
AutoZone is still renting the flash like looking one, you have to get somebody who knows. It’s like $200 though lol
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He said he has that other tool, here's an example my car is broke down I don't have no way to get to the parts store I can get this tool off Amazon for $15 so that's what I'm getting and I'm going to try it.
If you read all of the comments the author stated he has that other tool and it does not work on every car
I'm about to replace 20 year old tie rods. Pray for me.
Sadly.... where is the common sense in the beginning of this video. Some of you will know what I am talking about. Though thanks for sharing about this tool.
If your gonna go to the local store to get this contraption why not just rent the proper tool for free
True, but it's a cheap tool that can stay in your tool box if u want it.
Here is why. Yesterday, I rented the proper tool to install a new inner tie rod end on my son's Nissan Sentra 05.. The new tie rod end had the proper "notch" for the tool to grab. All set...when I removed the boot from the old inner tie rod end, the tie rod end was smooth like a baby's butt all around, no notch. Put the wheel back on and went to the local Princess Auto and bought the tool ($13.00) in the video (BTW, I did the job yesterday and watch the video today....). It work like a charm to remove the old tie rod end and I used the proper tool to install the new "notched" tie rod end. This is why.
Exactly, this tool has saved my butt plenty of times. There is no one perfect tool for inner tie rods. Thank you for your comment.
I only use hammers. The only tool I need.
So many adapters lol. If it works it works
What is the name of the tool?
Inner tie rod remover. I have a new video out on a similar tool that's even easier to use than this one ! 👍
How to get this
Any auto parts store...
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