Is there a good reason for NOT voting?
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13 million people have declared themselves "unlikely to vote" in the upcoming 2015 General Election. What's their problem? And can their decision be justified?
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LIAM BUTLER @LiamMakesStuff
JAY FOREMAN @jayforeman
JON GRACEY @jongracey
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Research / graphics by LIAM BUTLER
Also starring
THEO FOREMAN
LIAM BUTLER
and the voice of WILL SEAWARD
The Queen’s not eligible to vote, but she’s also got blanket immunity from arrest and from prosecution if she commits a crime, so what’s to stop her from voting?
Controversy
Historically Speaking Granted, but what would happen if you had a monarch who didn’t give a shit?
@@aperson22222 civil uprising
Most people would not give 2 fucks if she was allowed to vote and starting voting. Long as she kept who she voted for secret.
aperson22222 I’m not sure if this is strictly true, but I think parliament can vote on dissolving the monarchy. So if she doesn’t do what they want, they can get rid of her.
It’s why she always signs off on the PM, even though she can choose who she wants.
The best spoilt ballot is one in Edinburgh where someone wrote ‘wank’ next to each party other than the Greens, next to which was ‘not wank’ and the vote counted
That's why it's important to know how to spoil your ballot to properly invalidate it. The safest way is to leave it blank.
Pyra Darkstorm vote for everyone
Yes it was "counted" as a spoiled ballot. It wasn't 'valid' as a vote for the Greens (as Jay says around 4:20).
@@Vandragorax the ballot box restrictions are, on the surface, that strict. However, they are that strict to ensure people show a clear preference. by saying the greens were 'not shit' and everyone else was 'shit', the ballot was technically valid as a clear preference had been shown. the ballot counted as a Green vote
@@starguy321 I don't live in the UK but I really hope that's not the case. You should never be able to identify which vote is from whom. Otherwise, I could bribe someone and tell them to vote for a certain party and tell them to mark their vote in a certain way (such as by writing "shit" at every other party's names), and then I'd know for sure if the person I bribed did what they're supposed to.
2015: Boris Johnson being PM is a joke
2019: Boris Johnson is PM
Conclusion:
Politics is a joke.
In a "put your mouth where your money is" sort of way, he certainly is.
He was one of the people most adamant about leaving. Now, he has the "pleasure" of actually organizing Britain's departure from the EU, with whatever consequences that may yield for the country, or his political career.
They're of the same roost, but from the two furthest ends: one built its house on an enormous mound of loose stones (and the occasional skull), the other tries to balance an increasingly burgeoning building atop a tiny, aging foundation stone.
Eh. Deal or no deal, there will be an economic setback. No deal would probably hit harder, but the "shock therapy" may force Britain to become more economically self reliant. Not expecting a full revival of the heavy industrial sector, of course, but being forced to think on your feet can be a great motivator.
And even with a deal, it may serve the country well to strengthen economic ties with the nations of the Commonwealth. America's bit of a wild card here, and I doubt this'll change after the Trump administration.
Thing is, if the setback is great enough, it may just become the "second Poll Tax", which could destroy the career of any politician associated with it.
And that's without mentioning the ammunition this would give to Scotland's ambitions of independence.
4:38 Why on earth would 774 people spoil their ballots rather than voting for the legend that is Tom Scott??
Because he was standing in a heavily-conservative borough and, despite his best efforts, split the Pirate Vote as the Pirates party were not originally going to stand a candidate there, but did anyway.
I don't think he'd want to run for it anyway. He seems like a man who has at least some appreciation of the truth.
@@HolyKhaaaaan The candidate "Mad Cap'n Tom" actually is Tom Scott.
Because he already controls the world
Facts
On spoiling the ballot, daily reminder that thousands of US citizens voted for Harambe.
And for Deez Nuts.
Harambe > Trump
Harambe > Trump > Clinton
Lesser of two evils mentality is the reason why people don't vote, plus the fact no matter who you vote for means you're hated by half the country by default and seen as a "dependable ally" by the other half even if you despise them and only voted because of the first reason why people don't vote. What's worse? Getting shouted at and called a racist by Clinton acolytes or blabbered on about le deep state by Trump acolytes? Getting blabbered on about impeachment terms by Clinton voters or getting called a cuck by Trump voters? How about a bullet to the head?
@@bobbob5541 Harambe>Clinton=Trump
Or,
Harambe>Trump=Clinton
That "Me!" poster really aged well...
Had to check the date on the video when I saw that.
I dont get it
I really hate Boris- He's litterally the worst.
@@CyborgCollective So did I! 😂
@@kokomelon6707 The “ME!” poster was a foreshadowing per-se of Boris Johnson winning Prime Minister in 2019
"They don't even unhate the least worst one of them enough to give them a tactical vote." What a wonderful quadruple negative that actually makes sense
Doesn’t this mean that they hate the best one?
@@The-Mov no, multiple negatives is emphasis in english.
Mov
In this carefully crafted example it’s not quite a quad negative because the negatives aren’t in direct relation.
It’s saying the least-bad is still not a palatable option
Warren Cash It used to be, and still is in some dialects like African American Vernacular English, but not in general English. In AAVE “I don’t have no money” means that you really don’t have any money, but most people read that as “I have some money”. I sometimes use double negatives for emphasis, it certainly can be used, but I have to make it clear it’s for emphasis
I'm a 25 year old frenchman and I never voted (typical case of "I hate them all") but I genuinely changed my mind by considering your arguments and your alternative ways to inform myself. Thanks a lot for that.
none of the above genuinely never counts in France though
I hereby do declare that my vote is for Mad Cap'n Tom. Mahogany Mahogany.
The Major Thank you for this comment
This year was for Lord Buckethead.
This is the best comment. Everybody else can go home
someone call tom scott
hear hear
Queen : What can I do ?
Servant : Literally everything you desire your majesty.
Queen : Can I vote ?
Servant : No...
Er, actually she can, but she has said she won't. She has the royal prerogative. It is convention she does not.
@@mandowarrior123 I didn't know about that thanks ! She must say that but the law can't physically stop her to voting ?
@@sorban5352 Late reply, but even if there was a law to stop the queen voting (there isn't), she could vote anyway since she is above the law. She chooses not to as she's supposed to be above politics.
@@Earthcomputer ok thanks
I cant wait for the day that there is one mysterious write in vote that just says, "the queen" and a side not saying "yall keep fucking this shit up"
Another reason to vote when your party's still too small to win anyway: future elections. Losing below the 1% mark looks really terrible. But a new party receiving 5% of the votes can easily convince others to give them a chance next time.
There is an other reason to vote for small parties. In countries like Germany the parties receive money from the state to run their capaigns before elections. The amount of money they get, depends on the amount of votes they got at the last election. So more votes mean more money which means more billboards, flyers, pens, better websites, more staff... Which means more effective campaigns and to an extend more votes in the next election.
@@timhuester7721 Here in the UK, you have to pay a deposit in order to be added to the ballot papers - and then if you get at least a certain percentage of the votes, you get your deposit back
Another reason: They might not win, but if the winner doesn't have majority, he has to ally with a small party.
LOL, And what happens when your ideology is so rare that it doesn't even have representatives?
This is smart but also keep in mind this should be done only when you're confident the large party you have the most support for is going to win, else it'll just give the guys you don't like a better chance.
Nobody’s pointing out the genius music choice at 2:35.
It’s the Mr Blobby theme. Mr Blobby’s 1993 single topped the British charts as the Christmas No. 1 song, despite a lot of people really hating it. Nobody thought it would beat the competition, but well... it did.
Noel's House Party...now there's a relic of a bygone era!
This might be as in a following video Jay used the spotty party as an example?
"Brexit won't happen anyway, lets not bother voting"
I was too young to vote in the Brexit referendum and its infuriating that my generation are the ones who will be subjected to the poverty and destruction that Brexit will cause.
We need to end democracy once and for all and prevent backwards decisions being made. The vast majority of the population can't even be trusted to look after their own health so why do we let them vote
@@josephdugdale4150 I'll agree with the first bit.
I was something like 14 when the results of the first referendum were called. By the time Brexit is now 'supposed' to happen I'll be a voting adult with a few years' worth of frustration to figure out.
I remember being more educated on Brexit's potential impacts from a few school sessions than half of the voters I spoke to, and it was disheartening to say the least.
Still, ending democracy seems like a not very good idea. It may be bad, but it's worked better overall than the other bad options.
@@gaildahlas eventually, when you are older, you will understand why your school did you a big disservice. By showing you one side of the argument, you believe you are Educated, when you are in fact the opposite. A little knowledge is more harmful than no knowledge at all. It is a bit like climate warriors, absolutely no real understanding of what climate even is.
Get ready for brexit. up the boris 🏴 🇬🇧
MaccagGaming HD
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I only just noticed he used the year Tom Scott ran as a graphic for the "Spoiled Ballots" bit. Wonderful
he ran? for real for real?
Go find his video's on "The Ballad of Mad Cap'n Tom" on the Tom and Matt channel. He legit ran
@@HN-kr1nf 4:34 Mad Cap'n Tom
I wanna live in the alternate universe where he won the vote
@@salamanda550 link?
This is amazing!
Yep
OfficialNerdCubed I trust you.
OfficialNerdCubed That's what she said
My teacher made us watch this a week ago then nerd cube sends me here what are the chances
OfficialNerdCubed Aye,Dan,You sent me here...Hmm...
This gets relevant again from time to time. In Germany most elections have a so called "5%-Hurdle", where every party needs at least 5% of the votes to get seats.
And a few days ago, in the Saarland Regional Elections the Green Party was 23 Votes short of getting 5%
Hätte nicht erwartet nen Saarländer hier zu sehen.
Das mit den Grünen war scheiße…ich bin nur froh dass die FDP auch nicht reingekommen ist.
Grüße aus Saarbrücken
@@lappipihentai5000 Ich bin aus RLP, aber da hat man das auch mitbekommen. Bei den kleineren Bundesländern ist die 5% Hürde eh schwierig
An interesting fact to add:
There are a few regional parties of protected ethnic minorities that are exempt from the 5 % hurdle in state and federal elections. For example, in Schleswig-Holstein, the SSW (Südschleswigscher Wählerverbund) of the Danish minority there usually gets elected into the state parliament.
So if I was eligible to vote in Saarland, they would still need 22 more votes and nothing would change. Unless i could convince 22 people prior to voting to vote (even though I didn’t realise at that time 23 votes were needed). The “what if everybody thought that way” is a illogical argument. As whether or not I vote has no impact on whether or not other people vote. So whether or not everybody did or didn’t think the same way as me, it would make no difference/have no impact on whether my vote made a difference. Ironically, potentially persuading people on here (although I can’t imagine I’ll be persuading anyone) would arguably have a greater impact that voting itself (although definately not great enough o realistically impact any vote - so back to my initial argument).
In Germany though only valid votes are counted. If you spoil your ballot, it has the same effect as staying at home. The only difference it makes is in the calculation of voter turnout. Which is mostly irrelevant anyway since there's no minimum turnout. Even if there was only one valid vote, the elections were valid.
4:35 Mad Cap'n Tom
I still remember Tom's video on that lol
i was thinking that too lmao
Yeah I went to the comments to see if someone else caught that 😂
What song is playing in the backround of that bit
@@arch_dornan6066 I don't know
@@quill5579 nvm it's passing out pieces by mac demarco
"My favorite is going to win anyway!"
Said about 2 million Clinton supporters...
*TRIGGERED*
@J. M. yeah I guess
@J. M. people's votes don't matter, because the delegates vote however they want.
but electoral college is actually a good system.
@J. M. it is.
I'm still not going to vote in the general election this May. Reason being: I'm an American citizen living in America.
Spencer O'Dowd Since America is not a single country, you can't live in multiple countries at the same time
In the English speaking world, the word "America" in isolation almost always refers to the United States of America. What you're referring to is what we in English call "the Americas."
America is, Americas isn't.
Spencer O'Dowd you mean the two continents
@Kimberly Sharpe You are mistaken, As long as you have been registered to vote within the last 15 years or left the UK before reaching voting age then you can still vote.
They really should just put an official "The choices both/all suck" option for every choice. Would be interesting to see how often people just outright choose that.
Too sensible!
The US wouldn't have a president if that happened
@@calamaribowl8683 Good riddance. The past presidents have been sucking anyway. May as well try something different.
@@capturedflame Lol. Totally agree. Your policy's got my vote, partner.
My dad has helped to count ballots in various local elections, and apparently there are always several people who just write something along the lines of "they're all shit" on the ballot and put it in the box
For our provincial elections in Ontario, Canada, we have the option to decline the ballot. You go to the polling station, provide your ID, receive your ballot, then hand it back to the clerk. There are specific rules that must be followed when a ballot is declined and it's counted separately from other spoiled ballots. A spoiled ballot could just be a mistake or ignorance on the part of a voter, whereas there is no way to interpret a declined ballot other than a voter took the time to go to the polling station to choose to not vote. Unfortunately, this is not an option with federal elections in Canada. I'm curious if this is an option in any other jurisdictions. In Canada, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta also have this option.
That’s a pretty good concept you’ve got there in Ontario. I am Australian, where voting is compulsory. Now, compulsory voting is a EXCELLENT system for many reasons, but one common criticism is: “What if I don’t want to vote for any of the bastards?”
The usual solution I suggest is to write exactly that on the ballot. But it’s quite true that the recording of this intention is lost amongst all the other informal votes.
You could just put a giant X over the whole ballot, that is on purpose and still secret. But at least you can say official "I'm not satisfied with any of those".
@@mammutMK2 The problem is when your ballot is counted it doesn't go in a separate category that says something like "people who took the time to not be bothered".
Instead you end up in the same category as those who actually can't follow instructions.
We really need that option methink. Or at least if the ballot is spoiled in a specific way (big cross across everything, a sentence or two about how everybody suck etc) it should be counted in its own category.
@@lechuck3337 The confidentiality of your vote is still secure in this case, because you didn't cast it. However, your non-vote isn't a secret.
In federal elections, and in BC, if you "spoil" your ballot and it goes in the box, it is considered "rejected" and gets counted separately from candidates' votes, or spoiled ballots (which are errors, etc.).
Arr, Mad Cap'n Tom made a cameo.
Carl Siemens Yargh Brian the duck be off in the Newlands me harty
MAD CAP'N TOM
same here, just saw the enrty and started laughting. Cool explanations on this channel Jay
At least Tom got 84 poeple :-)
YES!
Glad I'm not the only one who knows about it.
MEME yay
OMG same
"Candidates who win by landslides are much more confident in their conviction. Those who win by a hair's breath often have to compromise with the other side"
Meanwhile, George W Bush...
You misremember the Bush administration. Regardless of the closeness of the Presidential election, the Republican Party had kept slim but stable majorities in the Senate and House from the Clinton years and in the post-9/11 years, which was only changed in 2006. Bush only had to work with a fully Democratic Congress for 2 years in his last term, and a split Congress for 2 years in his first. There's not much incentive to compromise when you have pretty much all you need and a mandate to use it.
There are compromises from that era, but none that I would brag about. The PATRIOT Act comes to mind as the worst example.
America's electoral college makes their voting systems even worse.
The Queen not being alowed to vote is a popular misconception. She is legally able to do so but in practice does not as it would be considered unconstitutional.
So unconstitutional = not illegal? 🤔
@@kubli365 Yes, believe it or not. The UK Constitution is mostly uncodified and largely based on constitutional conventions, i.e. unwritten and generally accepted political agreements/rules/traditions which are not enforceable by the courts. So an action that goes against a convention could be deemed unconstitutional, but not necessarily illegal. The Queen and other senior royals can legally vote, but they choose not to do so because of an unwritten convention - if they voted, it would be unconstitutional, but not illegal.
@@matthewmccallion3311 Sounds like a load a rubbish to me
@@ReddoFreddo I know it sounds like that, but that's how it actually is. UK constitutional law is really that absurd and confusing
@@matthewmccallion3311 Well it wouldn't be the first absurd and confusing thing about the UK government.
Looking back at this in 2019 and laughing when UKIP is mentioned
They just elected a leader called... wait for it... Dick Braine. No really!
you’re*
You laugh but they died because they achieved their sole policy. Brexit. Yes we have not left but did vote to leave, so now UKIP has no reason to exist, but their popularity led Cameron to promise a referendum in 2015 election. The rest is history.
Literally the most successful party this century, got enough support to achieve their one and only goal without ever having to form a parliament, but sure thing.
But then again, Brexit Party.
Some spoilt ballots can be counted as valid votes, that is under the discretion of the Returning Officer. A report from the election was that one Conservative MP had someone draw a phallus neatly in his box. Originally considered a spoilt ballot, it was deemed a valid vote by the returning officer.
That's... all kinds of fucked up. I don't know how it is in the UK, but here in Germany, the ballot explicitly cautions the voter by saying "You should put _exactly one_ cross here. No, a check mark or anything similar doesn't count."
They make it pretty obvious how to spoil your ballot and then going back on it and saying "No, this one still counts." is frankly baffling. Somehow, I don't think that returning officer was all that unbiased.
+Nixitur I understand that the only thing that the returning officer needs to do is decide if voter intention is conveyed. The idea is that accidentally spoils they're ballot, but the intention of the voter ID clear, then the returning officer can count it. The thing is if no clear voter intention can be discerned, like crossing every box, or not even filling in any boxes, then the vote is counted as a spoilt vote.
German elections are different due to the mixed member representation and the two votes that are on the ballot paper.
+vaska00762 There is also a the argument of voter annonymity. Anything that could identify your vote invalidates the ballot.
+vaska00762 There is also a the argument of voter annonymity. Anything that could identify your vote invalidates the ballot.
Quintinohthree
Not actually. OK, a name, or something that explicitly identifies a voter, yes, that's a spoilt vote, but if it is not an identifier, say a tick instead of a cross, that's can't be traceable. Of course in Northern Ireland, ballots are traceable back to the individual that cast the vote. The purpose is in case of an electoral fraud investigation, which can be carried out very easily in Northern Ireland. I understand, though that the identifying documents are destroyed after a set period of time afterwards, should no electoral fraud case be brought up.
I know this is 6 years old now.
But I have worked on a lot of election counts and generally if you put a tick in one box it would be counted. It might go to be judged by the candidates as a bad or doubtful vote but would generally be approved as a positive mark in a single box counting as an intention to vote for that person
Ditto, on some counts it was great fun seeing spoilt votes.
I still do vote, but in a way it has to go to the panel to figure out my intentions.
My last one I wrote tw@t next to all bar one, and ok next to the one I wanted to vote for. I did get some looks whilst voting as I was in the booth a while, and giggling.
That's surprising.
Because in theory, if you're allowed to put something other than an X, that could theoretically be used as a way to check how someone voted.
@@EightThreeEight Any mark on a paper which could identify a voter would render a paper void
Yep, I've been an election agent and a tick or a number 1 or a smiley face would count. In theory something strange could be a mark by which the voter could be identified but in practice it's unlikely. My personal favourite was an election in Scotland in 1994. At the bottom of the paper someone very neatly drew another box, wrote Nelson Mandela and voted for him. I think that Mr Mandela had more important things to do than be the councillor for Airthrey in Central Region but I like to think he would have been appreciative of the gesture.
4:35 mad cap'n tom, I love that you included that.
It's even greater after watching that Park Bench episode
The scene from @1:14 has just become scarily accurate...
@Godzilla Hårddisksson
No. No, he doesn't.
@Godzilla Hårddisksson
Firstly, scarily accurate =/= scary. If, say, The Simpsons in 1995 had predicted the exact brackets of the Premier League in 2015, that would not have been scary, but would have been scarily accurate.
And secondly, assuming the OP meant both scary and scarily accurate, I would definitely consider one man trying to dismiss people he is supposed to be accountable to, among whom he is supposed be an equal, so that he can push a country of over 60 million people (who were repeatedly lied to during the making of said) towards a massively consequential decision, that wasn't legally binding in the first place, with no plan whatsoever of what will happen afterwards, could be considered scary to some.
2015: Boris being PM is a joke
2019: PM Boris has the biggest win in the 2019 General Election with 365 seats for the Conservatives
It wasn’t a joke about Boris becoming PM. It was a reference to his safe seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip, where he arrogantly stepped in to return to Westminster politics and win comfortably, despite still being mayor of London.
@@JayForeman oh thanks ! I never knew that !
Now THAT'S a joke, for certain!!
@@JayForeman why was it arrogant for him to return to parliament?
@@SethTheOrigin because he was mayor of london. it's pretty arrogant to give yourself an important job that you won't be able to perform properly while you've already got a very important job
Fun fact: in 2024, the Queen still cannot vote.
as of september 2022 she has been given full voting rights
@@tgirltouhouwell she’s a little too dead now
This video has changed my views on voting and I will share this with anyone I know who doesn't vote.
This is super informative.
Yeah i don’t see why we should vote all this does is say we support the legitimacy of our government
I fucking don’t I want it to burn
Yeah, no. Still not convinced.. I hope a day comes when an election can only be considered illegitimate (as if our current government isn't illegitimate anyway) because the voter turn out is so low.
@@jmurray1110 based.
I love the joke about Boris being PM... and that it’s now happened 😂
**cries**
And Boris is already a thing of the past (and hopefully he stays there).
The "my favourite is going to win anyway" happened a few years back here in Brazil. Eduardo Suplicy, a veteran left wing senator had been reelected by a wide margin consistently for decades. People thought he was going to win and voted for other smaller left wing senators and he did not get his seat back.
scatman john was a staunch progressive, he would never run as a tory
@HighOnNarcotics Hes dead. Deadmen tell no tales and also tell nothing on how to run the country so probably not the best choice
I love how "Mad Cap'n Tom" is on the list at 4:36
That's Tom Scott actually.
@@gfrewqpoiu I know, it's only funny if you know "The ballad of mad cap'n tom - Part 2"
I deeply appreciate this video. As a young person that previously stayed home on election days, this video has convinced me to vote, and as an American in 2020 the segment on spoiled ballots will be especially helpful for my presidential ballot.
Spoilt ballots in America aren't really useful in any way
Reason for not voting in Australia: You like getting fined.
"it's pretty obvious who's going to win" that line really do be hitting different now.
1:15 how the hell did he know
A few people have asked this. In 2015, while he was still mayor of London, Boris decided to return to Westminster politics. He did so by running in the safe Tory seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip. This is what was in the news at the time and this is what I was referring to. I couldn’t have dreamt that 4 years later he’d end up being prime minister.
@@JayForeman hehehe
@@JayForemanAnd 3 years after that he resigned due to partying when a global pandemic was wiping out millions. How times change ay?
This video is actually more optimistic than I expected. Thank you.
Yes! Mad Cap'n Tom!
Looking at some of the comments it's astounding how angry non-voters get at the people who do vote.
I mean, we just want to be left alone. And voters just can't seem to stop talking about us. It really seems to bother them that a lot of us, just refuse to be sheep.
If you hate all of them (even Mad Cap'n Tom for some reason), why not try participating yourself?
Datenegassie Yargh Mad capn Tom be getting my vote
Because you'll basically be a bigger joke than Mad Cap'n Tom.
participating in elections isn't always as easy as it looks, you have to find a party to run for, or start one yourself, or maybe you can, but only if you received enough signatures, or you have to pay a deposit/fee... And if you want to recoup at least some of those costs, you better campaign, which is yet another way to waste money and time.
Cool, you going to cover the costs?
Well..... It's not that simple
haha, imagine living in a country where you can actually change something *cries in belarussian*
that's not amercia either tho so
@@psychodelic1457 not everything have to do with America.
And im glad
A common misconception. You can change fuck all by voting. The real advantage of a democracy is that our politicians can't steal as much as dictators and their chums. Which is definitely worth something, don't get me wrong, I like that about democracies.
@@Volkbrecht but that's the thing, i live under a dictatorship
that's why in my case i can't change anything by voting, because the dictator will still change the numbers as he pleases
don't assume everyone has the privilege of living in a democratic country, please
@@yanstein8464 you wouldnt be able to change anything by voting either
Not voting just because you think your favorite candidate/party can't win is such a stupid move. I mean, there is literally no reason to not do so. If you like the person/party, vote for them! The only way to get them to win is to vote for them, right?
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong? Maybe I'm just a total idiot?
People don't vote because not everyone bothers to learn about politics, and rather than voting for "whoever my friends do" or "the one on the news last week", they accept that their opinions are biased and probably wrong, and leave the decision to people who actually know what the fuck is going on. It's like asking a 10 year old to cook you a gourmet meal and getting upset when they don't know how.
Exactly. They'll have even less of a chance if you don't vote!
Well, to be brutally honest, you should still vote for that candidate even if they can't win.
It gives them the exposure the candidate NEEDS in order to achieve anything. For instance, with 3rd party candidates voting for one of them can most certainly help them get all of the attention they need, so people learn more about candidates like them and increase their chances of winning another time around.
that's my problem with it i haven't a clue who and what to vote for and know if i do vote that it's not based on a like on the person but more just for the sake of voting to me anyway is wrong
Rawiri Berryman-Kamp: That’s a semi-acceptable point, and I can see where people like that are coming from (and have been there). With that said, one of the counterarguments I can see raised to that is “you should educate yourself on politics, as you have no excuse not to”. Thoughts?
I like to think that Jay just sat down with a few strangers in the last shot and his overwhelming confidence convinced them to be in the video (and vote)
"Well it wasn't our fault."
George Carlin wants a word.
2:55
And now he spends his days riding trains for BBC, shame.
I've registered to vote this year thanks to Russel Brand, last thing I want is to be mistakenly associated with his "revolution".
2:49 It's exactly what happened in 2024 to former prime minister Liz Truss in 2024 when she famously lost her so-called "safe seat."
voting to change policy is like trying to steer an airplane by switching the food of the captains hamster.
im sure there is a correlation somewhere. im just not educated enough to see it.
WHEN HE PLAYED PASSING OUT PIECES I THOUGHT IT WAS COMING FROM MY PLAYLIST AND I WAS SO SHOOK I SPAT OUT MY WATER LMFAOOOO
I’ve never voted because i hate nationalism and being roped into being part of a “country” that I didn’t choose. I didn’t ask to have someone’s flag put on my birth certificate and be labelled with some made up identity like “British” just because I was born on a big piece of earth called “England” by whoever made up that name. An identity that doesn’t make me who I am. Nationalism is like the measles of humanity. It makes you hate people you’ve never met and take credit for events you never even took part in.
So I’m not playing along with it. You can call me British if you want, but it’s only on paper. You can whinge and moan at me for not getting involved in your stupid, pointless, unfair game called “politics” that’s full of liars who only say what they have to to get you on their side. But I won’t partake.
I like the idea of spoiling your ballot. Just not voting at all doesn’t prove you’re doing so out of any act of rebellion, the politicians will just assume your lazy and stupid instead. But spoiling your vote shows that you do care about how your country is run, but that you think that none of the candidates are qualified enough for the job.
omg the mad cap'n Tom reference...
it wasn't a reference.
Alwin Priven fuck off nigga
+Arsène Wenger
No u.
2:34 Clintion supporters learn this lesson the hard way lol
Generik Was it because of the Green Party taking the votes far enough for the party to lose states or was it the polls being inaccurate and losing 'safe' states such as Wisconsin and Pennsylvania?
i think that's the exact reason she lost
Cuz she was boring as hell and judgmental. The Democrats could have run any other woman and won.
It's also been suggested that that could've been a factor in the Brexit vote - a lot of people that would've voted to remain didn't bother because the opinion polls were showing that Remain would win (which is why I'm not convinced by all the claims that Remain would win if we had another referendum!)
The only reasons I can think of why people voted for her is i'm not Trump and I have a vagina. She made no promises or rousing election speeches that I can remember. Most of the Trump voters seem to have been fuck the system kind of people, and he did drain the swamp, but filled it up with sewage
0:49
I'm sorry. I just think him dancing in front of the PM's office is hilarious
0:18 Or maybe you’re the king. RIP QE2.
You think I didn't see Mad Cap'n Tom but I did; I very much did.
69th like
Yes, the government sucks.
Right wing, left wing, doesn't matter tha much, it all just sucks.
Spoiling the ballot paper, in human unison, rejects ALL 'PARTY' Politics full-stop.
4:37 Can I get an "Aye Aye" for Mad Cap'n Tom, and his many journeys!
In Australia we get a fine if we don't vote, it's total bullcrap. I hate politics but love these videos
And yet you got Scot Mo?
Voting is pointless. Get over it.
Hear hear.
Was kind of expecting there to be mention of the case where someone is "Equally okay with every single option."
I know it sounds dumb, but it does happen.
If memory serves me right, during our most recent presidential election here in Lithuania, there was a not too uncommon sentiment I've heard from people around here:
"Both candidates seem pretty good."
Which I'd assume resulted in a good chunk of non-voters who didn't do so out of a feeling of, well... they're fine with either outcome. Whatever they vote, they'll still come out on top, so at that point... why bother if it'll be good either way?
Appreciate the 10 seconds of Portishead at 1:21
Wow good pick up, missed that myself.
it would be good to see a 2024 version of this, where the difference between the two major parties is marginal.
4:40 Hey, look! It's Mad Cap'n Tom!
Exactly why I vote here in the US for that exact quote "Well it's not my fault." xD
*Canterbury and Kensington just entered the room*
Everyone should vote for themselves. Everything would be solved if that happened.
4:35 that moment when more people spoiled their ballot than voted for UKIP
Same number that voted Green
4:27
Who fills their voting sheet wrong?
Writing words from Simpson songs?
We do, we do!
Of all Simpson references,
We know that Jay’s preference is,
“We do! We do!”
Who writes lyrics on voting cards,
Who makes the votes that ballots discard!
We do! We do!
still hearting comments after 8years respect
Mad Cap'n Tom for Cities of London and Westminster MP
What if I somehow got the entire country to vote spoiled ballot
TH-cam recommending this to me the day of the mayoral elections, very helpful 😂
You're quite brave appearing on youtube with a hackintosh, are you not afraid that Apple will come after you?
It's not a hackintosh. It's a blank screen that we superimposed the graphics onto afterwards.
Aye right, lol, you superimpose the desktop from an Apple machine onto the monitor of your Windows machine? Great videos BTW, you deserve a lot more views, really well made, a bit of fringing here and there when you do the green screen, but that's nothing, really like your content.
They "superimpose" Apple onto a Windows machine *taps side of nose* *winks* LOL
I might be wrong, but I believe Apple has not directly banned Hackintosh machines. It's completely legal.
Reasonably Reasonable Videos It violates the end user license for OS X. They have taken plenty of ppl to court over.
Lol. I watched this once, before I'd watched the two-part series "The Ballad of Mad Cap'n Tom" and while I saw the breakdown at 4:34, I didn't get the reference. Now I see that this is a shoutout to the all-knowing Tom Scott. Well done.
I have much better things to do than cast a vote that has no power, just like everybody else's, in support of a system that doesn't care about us.
Never voted never will.
1:13 that’s some serious foreshadowing going on there
that end bit gave me "don't blame me, I voted for Kodos" vibes
So, last time I went out to vote, I had spent time going through all the manifestos, worked out who I wanted to vote for... Got to the polling station and my choice wasn't an option. Only like four options were available out of the 8 or 9 parties I had looked at. What do I do then? I ended up picking my least hated of the options I had, but it was a bit of a kick in the balls to see my efforts to vote had been wasted by my inability to actually vote.
In America all 50 states have different criteria for which candidates and parties are on their ballot and only some states have a write in option. It's a pretty good time.
I find myself completely unrepresented by all of our parties, and that's including all the minor meme parties along with the 2 juggernauts. Voting is definitely a game of "least worst".
People in British prisons can't vote?
Nope.
How ironic that this video gets recommended to me one day before the General Election
Half the Comments: Boris Johnson
Half the Comments: Tom Scott
Legendary Monarchy Music Intensifies on Pirated JBL Speaker
1:01 in the „state“ election in Thüringen (Germany) Firstly 3 votes decided that the FDP are allowed to go in the Parlament (that’s because there in Germany you as a party have to have a minimum of 5% of the votes to are allowed to go in Parliament. Later 2 of them were declared invalid. So Yes In my opinion is voting very important
I didn't know _that_ razor-thin margin got the Thuringian FDP into the _Bundestag._ Thanks for the information, and the very good point! After all, if that one person stayed home, the election there would have gone differently!
Nice scatman reference in the thumbnail of the video, wonderful little references like these make me really appreciate these videos.
*"my favourite is going to win anyway"*
Is the biggest reason why Trump won over Clinton...
Ha ha
It's because for many Trump was the least worst one they didn't unhate enough to not vote for over Hilary
Actually trump won because he paid off electoral college officials. He actually lost the actual election.
@mandellorian well you can't have 5 cities deciding for everyone
@@miso-ge1gz yeah that’s right let’s make someone voice smaller than the other guy cause he live in a certain area sound legit to me
the ballad of mad cap'n tom
I very much unappreciate the fact that an individual with a phd at sociology is valued identically to one with 2 GCSEs
You mentioned the worst case scenario is spoiling a vote - I don't think that's true at all. The worst case scenario is voting for a party with the best intentions, and they get into power, and commit war crimes against another country. Your vote ensures your complicity in the violence.
Since we know that's how governments act, we know of the foreseeable risks when it comes to voting. Some of us prefer not to gamble with the lives of innocents at home or abroad.
‘I hate all of them’ is a totally legitimate point
The fewer votes there are, the less legitimacy the government gets
Tell that to the Americans that have less than 50% of people voting, yet they are arguably the most important government in the world
This is absolutely not true. Legitimacy is based on percentage of votes cast, not total number
@@hecticfreeze If 150/60,000,000 voted and 120/150 spoiled their ballot, the lack of legitimacy would not come from the spoiled ballots.
@@oniondesu9633 Assuming those who didnt vote freely chose to and there was not interference in the electoral process, then the example you gave would be a LEGITIMATE vote. Very easy to overturn, but legitimate nonetheless
This video resurfaced in my homepage, so i thought a story (that no one will probably see lol): in 2018, my province of Ontario held an election. None of the three main parties advanced policy proposal that made me particularly passionate. There was one independent candidate running that I really liked, but knowing he had no chance of winning, I was planning on staying home. Well, I remember that, after watching this video and thinking about it, I decided to get out and vote. Sure, my candidate placed 5/6 and only got 500 votes out of 60,000 , but it felt good knowing that I voted for my convictions (and not, say, against someone) and exercised my right to democracy.
Truly a great shine in my day to unexpectedly hear Will Seaward’s voice
Spoiling your vote is HUGELY frowned upon in Ireland.
Is no one guna talk about the absolute schmeat my mans packin at 1:42-1:48
1:15 that joke has come to fruition, little did you know Mr.Foreman
I have seen this video many MANY times and I have just seen the Mad Captain Tom callback
Apathy doesn't even suggest that you are lazy. It means you don't care who wins.