Jim Cornette on Eric Bischoff's Comments About Tony Khan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- From Episode 214 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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I’m glad this art style is back. The way they draw Tony Khan and Vince cracks me up every time.
Those eyes ....perfection
And Jim as Cadbury - Cornbury!
So much better, too realistic isn't fun
Me too. Wasn’t feeling the other artwork. Travis is the man for the job
Khan looks like he snorted cocaine mix with death wish coffee lol
He's back, he's better than ever.
I know you're talking about Travis. That's awesome.
Good one dude!
@Shawn R Corny says....put them in a box and they'll be over!
Corny has a knack, for cuuuccking out his lover!
Eric Bischoff challenged Vince McMahon earlier (on a WCW Monday Nitro and/or a Thunder episode), to come fight Easy E at the PPV. Did Vinnie Mac show up, at all ? No...
th-cam.com/video/z9XaH2nPCS4/w-d-xo.html = WWE Network: Eric Bischoff threatens to knock out Mr. McMahon (1 min. 21 sec.) - by: WWE/WWF on Sep 23, 2015; In this countdown of the top 10 most controversial moments of his career, Eric Bischoff challenges Mr. McMahon to a match at WCW Slamboree 1998
I feel like Jim missed the point of what Eric was saying. I don't think he was telling TK to go head to head. It felt, to me, the message was "Stay in your lane, and don't compare yourself to me until you get on my level".
Either way, Eric ran WCW into the ground. WCW doesn't exist anymore. Eric can boast how he went head to head but he lost. He's in no position to coach or give advice.
AEW is already consistently better than WCW ever was.
I think Jim's point was that Eric shouldn't be trying to take so much credit for WCWs success when he's also largely responsible for WCWs failure.
This is exactly what EB was trying to say. They should have watched the ENTIRE segment and reasoning before filming this.
@@RyanAndTheHawk the NWO alone will be more over than AEW will ever be. Nothing they have will ever come close
i think Cornette may literally have the best Dusty Rhodes impression
He has the lisp and the candence down. I smile everytime I hear it or Ernie Ladd
i'd love to hear him re-enact an argument between Rhodes and Ladd
I don't know brother. I think Bruce has him beat on the voice.
DDP did a great impersonation of Dusty as well.
@@georgenelson8284 Now he might be the best.
Jim missed the mark with this; I think it's just as simple as Eric saying that Khan should stop the bs and conjecture & concentrate on putting on a show that brings in new viewers (applicable to WWE also IMO). That's how you really win, not winding up the people who are going to watch no matter what.
Negative ghost rider. Cornette got it right once again. If EB can ever recall his own regime 😆 then maybe it’ll be a conversation.
The validity of other comments he’s made about what Tony says has focused on how the way Tony handles stuff kills his good will and I aheee with that.
Jim simply went on and proved why Tony Khan should have never said what he said, with all considerations on the table.
Oh boy, I’ve missed them Tony Khan crack eyes.
And also uncle Dave's toung
Yes to both 🤣
Missed?
Aew claiming victory with a single demographic is a rib on the wrestling community
Demos have always been important, if it wasn't for the demo Smackdown would be last on cable and cancelled by now but because of the demo they are usually 1st or 2nd.
@@antoniocassano9837 I hope AEW pay you good money to cover up this nonsensical shitty argument about the demographic.
@@antoniocassano9837 demos, the s at the end is kinda important.. smackdown won the female and overall 18-49 demo, aew only won the male one
@@saveus228 AEW won men, female & 18-49 in the 30 mins they went head to head
18-49 total: 328,000 to 285,000 AEW
Men: 225,000 to 184,000 AEW
Women: 103,000 to 101,000 AEW
@@obersveyourmind Learn to google and your will see its accurate, mark.
The thing about the artwork by Travis is that it's never just a simple representation of the content. It's always almost a caricature of something very random yet representative of the content.
Yeah , really creative.
Its just a thumb nail dude.. Christ.. 🙈✌
@@tacotom3492 I wouldn't expect someone named taco Tom to understand subetly 😅
@@AngelFlores-bq4fd Just a thumb nail 🙈✌️
@@longsnake5758 It's many hundreds of thumbnails. Being creative, even just a little bit over and over again takes something.
On the one hand, Bischoff had a massive head start over Tony Khan because he inherited Jim Crockett Promotions of the old NWA, which still had a large, built in fan base when he took over. On the other hand, Tony Khan, unlike Ted Turner, thought he could run a wrestling company and be a booker because he was a fan. You could easily argue that Turner hired the wrong people to run his wrestling company, but at least he didn't put himself in charge of booking. He was just an owner, not an EP or booker. Tony Khan, a wrestling fan like Turner, put himself and a bunch of inexperienced wrestlers (in North America anyway) in charge of booking decisions in AEW. That's a mistake even Ted Turner was smart enough not to do.
Well, he's not lying. Stop talking on social media and concentrate on your product. And yeah, remember, Ted Turner called Vince and told him, "Am in the wrasslin bizness Vince". He did it out of competition.
More like out of spite.
Vince ain't in the rasslin business
The biggest problem that companies have when they want to reach that national level is that they ALWAYS start doing goofy sports entertainment. TNA did it when they went to Spike TV. AEW did it when they got on TNT. Nobody offered anything different. It was still just goofy sports entertainment with different people. When WCW was beating WWF in the 90's, they were doing pro-wrestling AND had big stars. CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Adam Cole aren't Hulk Hogan or Randy Savage. WCW eventually started doing sports entertainment in '99, '00, and '01, but those were also the years that they didn't turn a profit. If you're going to compete, make something that's actually different. Don’t try and out-silly Vince McMahon. He’ll always win.
Exactly!!!
@@heshamhany8470 who Ted?
I'm old enough to remember ECW during it's heyday. Paul Heyman built the entire company around the "us vs. them" mentality. Fans became cultists. They, like the wrestlers, would follow Paul blindly everywhere he went. They overlooked mistakes the company made and made excuses for them all the time. Tony, to a lesser degree, is doing the same thing with AEW. He's emboldening the fanbase and they are overlooking mistakes and making excuses. They're also going out on social media and doing a lot of unpaid PR for the company too to try and convince everyone that this stuff is actually good.
To me the difference is Heyman was the puppet master intentionally pulling those strings. With AEW, the fans who have been wandering and looking for an alternative since ECW and WCW went under, washed up on AEW's doorsteps. Tony seems to be a nice guy who listens to the most vocal of the bunch.
The problem is that ECW fans could acknowledge when the product was bad. AEW cultists think that everything they do is the best ever and slavishly support it, including Meltzer. There's no "Well, that was a bad idea." They doxed and attacked the AEW Botches channel. ECW fans would show up and boo. That's it.
Seriously, go to the channel called Tranquilo Club. It's pure AEW propaganda.
@@WarGhoulKharas I'm sorry but that guy has good content. He's just a fan. He doesn't try to start shit. There's a big difference between the whiny and bitchy and those who just like what they like. Fans have WWE NJPW etc channels where they say favorable shit just the same. Ppl like what they like. Why does that get people so mad. Ppl want to point out the AEW weird fans bc it's what is talked about right now, but there'sWWE nerds, HISTORY nerds. They all think they're right no matter what and they're the loudest and most negative. It's nothing new.
@@MilkmanC you could argue the AEW botches guy was just a fan too, he had to be watching a helluva lot of AEW to put together all those botch clips lmao. If you allow Tranquilo Club on the one hand you should allow AEW Botches to exist on the other, there shouldn't be any censorship everybody is a fan in their own way.
I watch AEW until that Orange Pockets joke comes on and then it's change the channel heat. Dude is like 2000 Jeff Jarrett, stale, a joke in a bad way, terrible and Just go away. I take some of it back, at least Double J was Mid-carder at best. Orange Pockets is low tier gymnasium backwoods at best and that's pushing it
Lets talk about the art instead of the actual topic of the video because we're all travis marks.
The drawing of Jim with that hairline kinda looks like Gorilla Monsoon
Yes, very refreshing to see the return.
The sarcasm went right over their heads
There's plenty of comments talking about the topic. Even time stamps too. did you only read 3 comments or something?
@@malikevans2615 Then why are the most upvoted comments specifically about the artwork?
AEW it seems are prematurely dumping the Gatorade on themselves after performing less than awful in a flag football scrimmage, not the superbowl like they believe they have won...
THIS
They have no patience. That's why. They want everything right now.
@@al5306 WCW let Goldberg win "173" matches in a row and STILL felt like it could have been stretched further. There's no way they would be patient enough to let someone get anywhere near 100 straight wins haha
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid Exactly lol Very true.
🤣😂 omg great analogy
I knew Corny would protect aew here. Fucking wild. Bischoff was 100% correct
I agree with Bischoff telling Tony to shut up because it's a dumb move for Tony, but Corny did have good points too about Bischoff back then and Tony now, both are really not that comparable when it comes to circumstances. Bischoff was in a much better position when he fought McMahon compared to where Tony is right now. I'll give Corny credit for pointing that out.
Yes because Eric bischoff has such a great mind for wrestling that WCW is still a profitable company today 🙄
Bro Jim is showing his ass here. You are right on point
Damn, Jim jumping through hoops to try and discredit the perfect criticisms of Tony Khan. Christ.
"Different time period"
"Not enough stars"
"5x less people watching"
Smh..
Jim heard Tony listened to the show and hasn't been the same since. Unbiased Jim used to say what he truly thought of what he was seeing without hesitation. Now, he's got Brian letting him know every 5 seconds if he's stepping on Tony's toes, which ruins the premise of the program. Sad really.
Cant really argue with the bottom two points.
You guys are ridiculous lol.
While I agree there aren't enough stars, EB gave Goldberg 173 straight wins via squash and 20 years later he's fighting tomorrow at Crown Jewel. He was EB's creation.
As far as 5x less people watching today, if you heard that Roman Reigns and Brock/Edge walked through the AEW crowd to grab a mic making people believe there was a WWE invasion, the numbers would be historic levels.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid nah. If you think about it, there is a fifth of the audience now than WCW WE had on its worst day.
Travis does the best tony khan art
The "Richy Rich-Cadbury" bit is genius.
8-)
The coked out eyes always cracks me up
Love listening to 83 weeks, but I love listening to Jim Cornette's podcast too.
WWF vs WCW grew both audiences, that's why 10 million people were watching at that time.
AEW loses viewers in both shows every week and WWE struggles to maintain. I'll disagree with Cornette a bit. WCW was dead in the water in the early 90s, whatever long term fans of JCP there were...they were gone by the early 90s. WCW was bleeding money and Eric turned it around. Give Bischoff his credit.
It was more like 12 million and occasionally 14 million. Remember there were plenty of times when both shows were pulling 6mil or 6.5mil viewers each.
@@darksideon What's crazy too is the facts these "demos" they rely on for 18-49 didn't even fit for me and all of my friends watching Nitro/Raw every Monday, yet we STILL bought every single piece of merchandise imaginable. I just laugh because there's no way these demos knew me and my high school friends would gather in groups of like 8-10 people for Raw/Nitro, and we couldn't have been the only ones either. I bet those numbers in reality were actual way higher at the time. It was literally can't miss TV because you couldn't Tivo it or anything. Great times.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid That demo bs got famous by Jericho when Aew were not able to beat nxt in viewership so aew brought up the thing that they were defeating nxt in Demo.
@@darksideon Trying to tell these people that Wrestling was so hot the NFL seriously discussed moving off Monday nights. They think there's a boom right now ffs
Yeah because we are still stuck in the 90s right?some of you have no common sense or have brain but can’t use it? There are many ways to watch the shows now unlike the 90s if you don’t watch it like you will missed it. Different social media platforms online streaming, TH-cam Hulu illegal devices you can name it and don’t forget the Peacock network too. Gather then it’s even more popular that it ever been. Yes the business is exposed you can blame 70% of that to Social media and the other 30% to Dave 5 ****** ratings Meltzer and the indie hardcore fans. They ruined the business for WWE
Eric actually gained my respect on this one. Can't say he's lying though. Although i will say Jim made a few good points.
Im sure all he was.doing was trying to earn your respect
Who ta f are you for you S TH-cam account
83 Weeks is a great podcast if you're a fan of 90's WCW. I listen to it every week - aside from their TNA episodes.
Curious how he gained your respect only by doing things you agree with
th-cam.com/video/XrsY9phyrM8/w-d-xo.html - Mr. Vince McMahon vs. Eric Bischoff - RAW (3 mins. 35 sec.) - by WWE Mania (Feb. 13, 2018); WWE vs WCW (Raw - Feb. 24, 2004)
Bischoff deserves more credit then Cornette gives him credit for.
Tra-vis Heck-el "clap-clap-clap clap clap"!
HECKLE HECKEL
Never fails… anytime someone does a good Dusty impression I get a big smile.
Always great when the clip ends with The Dream
Bischoff was absolutely right about the way Tony Khan talks a big game but doesn't really take risks to bring the fight to WWE. Cornette is always entertaining even when he's firing shots, but his co-host has started to get really annoying.
Brian is an AEW mark.
The show would be more better if Brian wasn't there
@@rexhudson4378 I love the whole bit at the end when talking about the podcasts' ratings it's all about how "we're doing"....like if Jim wasn't there people would just be flocking to hear Last's thoughts about the world of wrestling.
Brian Last is always in the way of this podcast just my thoughts
@@User-kq7uw He really is at this point. I realize they were already friends....and Jim certainly needed someone other than Alice to do a better show and to also grow it....but there have been growing changes in how this show is presented with Brian playing a large part in them...and it's not for the better.
I missed this artwork. Welcome back Travis.👏🏻👏🏻
God dammit another great episode but it’s just highlights the fact that I am dying to see the podcast with Eric Bischoff and Jim Cornette go on together and tear apart Vince Russo.
Table For 3 has it in short form.
Or Dave Meltzer
Tony should take as much advice as possible from vets. His promotion has reached its peak until they sign more recently released guys so he shouldn’t be trying to compete with WWE at all and he need to stop clowning himself on twitter.
There is no one else AEW could possibly get that could pop their rating more than it already has, barring the Rock or Lesnar or someone in that tier.
@@psychobluesfxt Facts CM Punk was AEW best chance to take AEW over the top that’s what AEW fanboys thought even though I knew Punk wasn’t a draw nobody AEW can get is gonna draw them ratings unless it’s like you said they get a Rock Lesnar or Cena and Batista
@@psychobluesfxt on paper sounds impossible to not be true....but (here it comes) ... John Cena's comeback didn't exactly double or triple their ratings if I'm not mistaken during his program with Roman Reigns
@@christopheramaro333 “someone in that tier” would include Cena
@@christopheramaro333 nah the ratings didn't increase cause Raw is blackhole succubus void for ratings with its creative (if he had went to smackdown it would have went up most likely) but Cena did increase ticket sales. But in the end Cena is a bigger name than cm punk and he's a person casual people would know which would bring eyeballs to aew
Eazy E helped change Monday nights! WWE did the attitude era BECAUSE WCW was whooping that ass! Thank Bischoff for that kids. 83 weeks baby! Stop hating Corny!
I love travis’ artwork and I miss it
I’ve missed the old artwork. Other one was good too.
Newer ones are way better
@@weare1484 both are good. Hopefully the will will be in rotation
@@weare1484 no they arent Travis is the best and you seem very fruity
@@weare1484 most of them sucked, but there were some great ones
@@EliC09 you don't know art then
Cornette spent this whole segment putting words in Eric's mouth and building a strawman to tear down
Its almost as if he is in too deep with him despising Eric, (for reasons that may or may not have been fair) and he feels the need to keep it up 😒🤷🏽♀️
It doesn't help Jim's credibility when he said he ignored the statements. You then have an AEW Mark Brian Last read them as if those were the only words said. Both of them failed to do their research on what was actually great advice for TK.
@@leelohaskin7941 That's the problem with Jim ... he's all or nothing and he'll never change his mind on anything. He and Bischoff actually agree on a ton of stuff
Im in love with Travis and want to marry him and have an intense physical relationship
Ahhhh.... security
So why marry him???
@@darrengordon-hill I have to marry him because i want to assure him when he gets too old to preform in the bedroom that he will always have my unconditional love for this amazing artwork and helping out Mr Cornette. Im in love with Jim also but hes already in a very physical and very long term relationship
Lol.
you working us into a shoot?
For all the ridiculous talk about demos > ratings I guarantee you that if TK asked Warnermedia if he could go H2H with the WWE, they would take 1 look at those ratings and say absolutely not.😄
There was article 2019 Meltzer said demo means nothing have to win in the raitings but not sure if he remembers that today
@@tonyslicer7399 source?
Nobody caught Ted Turner on the right day so he said "yeah let's do it". It was what ted turner wanted, it was his idea to compete with Vince and Turner then brought it to Bischoff by saying "what do we need to do to compete with WWF". Bischoff then said "I would need prime time". To that Turner said "alright Eric, 2 hours every Monday night on TNT".
Verified by the fact Ted personally called Vince to tell him it. He trusted Eric to beat Vince even if for 83 weeks. I don't expect TK's dad to be calling Vince and say Tony's coming for you like Ted did to Vince.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid did Ted call him about tv or did he call him after he bought Crockett? Eric also if I remember correctly said he made that primetime comment as a joke.
@@scrappy93 I watched the "Monday Night Wars" doc on Peacock the other day and Vince said that Ted called him about taking him on, in other words, "we're going head to head in your timeslots". Not some demo thats been made viral the past few days, but actual 1 on 1 competition at the same time. The crockett call was from immediately purchasing WCW though, so I guess you could say 2 calls. The head to head calls I mentioned right when Nitro started and the court cases about "gimmick infringement" from Hall/Nash picked up. I believe it was the 2nd MNW episode of the series.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid that special is basically a work of fiction. Alvarez's book the death of wcw tells as close to the truth story as you'll get, and you wont have to be hot over the head with lies like dx helped win the war
@@ronniejdio9411 WWE won the war because Vince had creative control at the end of the day. He didn't have to deal with Hogan not wanting to drop the belt or Nash claiming he could win against ____. What lost Eric the war was he couldn't preventive the egos from doing what they essentially wanted creatively, which is exactly what to expect when TK offered the same to his "EVPs" Bucks/Omega/Cody. Cody has his own show, Bucks have been tag champs, Omega is the champ. Eric wanted TK to learn not to go in business with your friends and TK is ignoring his advice.
Everyone knows Vince and WWE live rent free inside Tony Khan and AEW's heads, at least Eric Bischoff and WCW didn't start barking until they got out in front of WWE then WWF in the 90s. Hell the Brock Lesnar/Roman Reigns segment got more views by itself than their entire Rampage buy in stream
And WCW was actual competition and made wrestling exciting. Whereas AEW is full of children falling over
Because Brock and Roman have star power and know how to draw casual audiences something AEW is failing to do.
"Its Mythical baby! It does not exist"
My Sides...
Eric was amazing at his job. Multiple millions of people watched WCW in the past, weekly.
He got lucky till he pissed of Vincent Kennedy McMahon and then he lost his job to Vince Russo rofl Vince Russo
I enjoy 83 weeks just as much as Jim's podcast.
Yay! Coked out Khan is back!!
“I’m back...and I’m better than ever”
Bischoff- 😎
I think Eric's comments was spot on . The way brain did it was patronising and did not make it sound like Eric said
Someone needs to remind Brian Last that he was once at 50k subscribers and starting his channel and he can fall down as fast as he went up. So keep putting down smaller channels Brian and you will be back down there
is he cracking on Conrads shows?
He’s no Podfather
Brian's ego almost as bad as tony Khan's here
They all have big ego's.
I hate to say this because I don't like Eric bischoff but he's a million times correct. There was say 5x people watching during the war because of the n.w.o. and the attitude era. The business was doing poorly n slowly dying before that. Cruiserweights, having more realistic angles than wwf at the time, going live and to 2 hours everyweek hate to give Eric credit but Eric is right. Tony con won't put his show on Mondays because of football but he could Friday's against smackdown but he hasn't. He doesn't have balls because I'm sure meltzer has sucked them off of him.
WCW and TNA were on Mondays despite football!!!
@@darrengordon-hill they were but I think It would be a conflict of interest because of the jaguars
@@senshix Doubt the Jags will get on many MNF's in the near future.
@@senshix The Jags have won 1 game out of 20. MNF's ratings drop when the Jags are on. This has already been debunked.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid having a stake in the team whether he's part owner or just the owners son is something he doesn't want to do. I doubt he'd get half what raw gets but if anything he should be on Saturday nights but I think because they do ppvs on Saturday he doesn't want to. My guess. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved rampage to Saturday nights because he really sees Wednesday as his night for dynamite.
Jim, you guys doing a segment on Bischoff's comments, without seeing the entire segment on his podcast, is like reading a movie's wiki summary and claiming you seen the movie. EB's entire segment agreed with some of those points you are trying to criticize him for, while offering actual advice to TK on mistakes to avoid. Wish the segment was over everything he actually said, not just a sound bite.
You want THIS SHOW to DO RESEARCH???
TK: Raw's go home show sucked
This show: Whoop whoop, you tell em
REALITY: It wasn't the go home show
@@darrengordon-hill Well said Darren haha Jim literally said "saw the story but ignored it and didn't think you'd ask about it". This was literally a much bigger topic than some AEW Dark match and he didn't expect to hear about it? What's going on with this show? Jim used to own these segments.
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid
"Waah, TK challenged Vince to a fight"
IN THE AFTERMATH OF DX INVADING RAW!!!
TOTALLY the same as TK tweeting at/about WWE constantly....
@@darrengordon-hill EXACTLY! haha I don't know if they intentionally leave out that context because it refutes their criticism or they are just forgetting what ACTUALLY happened. Great point Darren
Blame the 1 who sent the transcript as brian just read the email word for word, but I do agree that they should have listened to the whole segment
Eric Bischoff: I was kicking Vince's ass before it was "cool".
LoL 😂😂😂
How did Brian and Jim turn this into "We're the #1 AND #2 Wrestling podcast" when Eric was telling Tony Khan to stay in his lane? Damn, times have changed...
Brian will be breaking out the podcast demos next episode! Lol.
And really he was blowing smoke cause I looked it up and he was wrong.
Welcome back Travis!
So now you're blaming the network for "not wanting to lose a valuable show"???
THE SHOW CANNOT COMPETE WITH RAW - which is why they don't!
WCW and TNA at least tried/had some success.
But sure Jim, blame TNT
Still different scenarios. Tony can’t demand where he wants his show to be. WCW was owned by TNT so they could just go ahead and do it. TNA was able to do it because Spike didn’t have anything to lose by trying it. TNT does have something to lose. But AEW wouldn’t compete with Raw so it’d be idiotic to try, it was idiotic when TNA tried too. AEW would be best served if they’d just focus on their product and be an alternative like they originally said they’d do.
Can't wait to here Jim comment on Tony's rebuttal to Eric's comments.
Of course these two will find an error in what Bischoff said
because they didn't listen to the rest of 15 minutes of the podcast when EB touched on it. What a miss on their part. Only heard what they wanted to hear.
I can't imagine that it took very long either.
"Don't ask me for advice I'm Eric Bischoff." Classic Brian
I'm genuinely curious where do they get these podcast rankings I've heard too many other podcasts say they're ranked number 1.
Tony’s ego will hurt AEW
Travis back !!
Bischoff was whooping Vinces ass at the time he was running his mouth. Tony cannot defeat Vince in one show and has NO right to run his mouth. Jim come on man... Be honest .. Are u on TKs payroll
AEW is actually beating WWE In some metrics, like ticket sales for example.
@@antoniocassano9837 But they're far from where WCW were in the late 90s.
@@nbaldwin45 I agree, but neither is WWE. I doubt either company will ever get back to that level of popularity, at least not anytime soon.
@@antoniocassano9837 Ticket sales? Are we back in the territory days? They ain't even on the west coast.. Aew has smaller venues. Next
@@donaldsp360 Smaller venues? 20k in NY, 14k in Chicago, etc. They are literally selling more tickets than WWE atm. You guys just make up your own facts.
They are both in Long Island next month in the same arena. AEW is 79% sold out right now, WWE is 44%. lol NEXT!
I am so glad Travis is back. His artwork is the best. That other stuff I was seeing from other artists had me going like "The hell is this?" looking at it
WCW's undercard had Eddie , rey , benoit, malenko, juventud , perry, jericho, kidman , Lance and on and on and on....that itself is better than 80% of WWE and AEW rosters
Exactly and if WCW had pushed them instead of allowing the same guys to remain on top maybe things would’ve turned out differently, the egos of guys like Hogan, Nash, Hall ruined that company
@TheJoeGreene Eddie was pushed right as Brock was leaving, Angle was hurt, he didn’t work with Taker for some reason, he could and should’ve worked with Cena again, Reys push felt forced since it was a result of Eddies death and the fans knew it, Benoit was put in the middle of Triple H/HBK feud in the middle of Triple Hs reign of terror, Jericho won the undisputed title but was made a pawn in the Triple H Stephanie feud, Malenko, Juventud, Kidman and Lance storm didn’t have the same potential but having them put on great matches with some good storylines would’ve been fun
@TheJoeGreene The problem with smarks is they believe being able to fly around the ring and put on excellent technical matches automatically equate to being an excellent draw.
HE'S BACK!!
Yah the original artist is back !! I love coked out eyes Tony 😆
Yes, Travis is back. Thank God too lol
AEW is about 10 years, and a lot of talent and star power, away from where WCW was in '96. Keep dreaming, Tony.
THIS IS GREAT, AWESOME 👌
Tk should focus more on his product instead being a heel on twitter. There is a lot I mean A LOT to focus on. Just let wwe counter program aew who cares. Get better storylines like explaining WHO the mma guys are.
Its not the WWE where they have to dumb everything down for the viewer.
Modern wrestling is a complete joke. Get rid of women's wrestling, bring back blood, make the matches more violent. I was 10 in 96, that was the greatest era of wrestling ever. It will never be surpassed. I haven't watched wrestling in 20 years and won't again soon
That shot by Brian Last at the Conrad Thompson network of wrestling podcasts tho…
Man not to be that guy but after he said that I got curious and looked it up and on every chart podcast site they are getting beat. So....
if Jim and Brian are so successful, they should just STU and enjoy his success. why be jealous if you are more successful
That was a shot and idk why they think they are better. 83 weeks has ppl listening because EB was the actual president of WCW and ppl want to know his mindset on what went on during that time frame. Plus he gives good insight into advertising on TV , Ratings , Demos. This podcast is great because Cornette gives you insight into how to build a match and how to make the storyline make sense.
Jim might wanna look at the charts again lmao. His show is at 70 behind Jeff Jarrett and Jericho lmao
Tony is just a Pakistani Herb Abrams
A lot of people wait for the podcasts and clips to be on youtube. Like obviously we do
As a summary, the big difference between then and now is the talent, you had big over superstars for years and now iyou have a lot (not everyone though) indy guys just legends in their own minds (or twitter bios). - Good ol Travis artwork is back. Travis TK is best TK 👀
Only TK that counts
Great to see the regular artist back
I love it when Jim does his Dusty Rhodes impression.
It’s fair for anything Bischoff says because Tony is the one that compared them first.
Tiny has infected Jim
The fucking shaaaaade at the end lol. I love it.
the lap dog is sending shots lol
Eric spoke nothing but facts in that video
WCW never lost $60 million. That single statement renders this entire video meaningless.
eric was right
Tony is gonna bring aew down if they keep having wwe in their mind. It drives fans away and potential fans as well
If he had surrounded himself with actual bookers who weren't still wrestlers he'd be much better off. All he had to do was create a new company and let it be known that they weren't interested in competing with the WWE, instead he aligned himself with people who wanted to prove something to themselves. He's making the same mistakes TNA made in 2010.
@@darksideon Tony Khan having his "EVP'S" become the world champion, tag team champions, and have his own reality show is all you need to know. The big WCW problems came when guys with creative control didn't want to drop the belt (Hogan, Nash, etc...) and so Eric's hands were tied. This won't end much different as long as his top stars remain "EVPs"
Nah tony won't Everton knows eric is vince's puppets
@@ntokozoxaba550 Tony is letting wrestlers as evps kill his program
What’s really back is the old thumbnails! Thank you!!!
Jim is slowly curving his hate schpeals regarding AEW. Kinda disappointed but i understand. Seems like Tony is catching on
Tony sent Brian an email that he listens to the show and everyone since then they've been watching what they say more and more.
I left this exact comment. The show just doesnt even have the same energy anymore. WWE sucks but roasting them isnt nearly as funny as AEW. I only listened to this clip after reading the comments.
@@TheeCoachg If your co-host (Brian) makes noises like "ugh" before Jim says hes going to review Smackdown (the top wrestling show on TV) then you KNOW something is fishy. I started listening to the podcast for old wrestling stories and Jim giving his honest opinion. Now, we rarely get either of them. Jim spends 20 min on an AEW Dark match but 5 min on Edge/Rollins promo. You can't tell me that's normal.
Jim and Brian are such marks for Punk that in their eyes AEW actually is posing some kind of threat. Look,WWE is GARBAGE and horrible to watch but guess what…CM Punk,Brian Danielson and Adam Cole combined still cant push AEW to 2M viewers or at least a month straight of 1.5M. I give Bischoff a lot of grief but he’s far more….of a Worker than Tony Khan. Acquiring Hulk Hogan in 1994 is what made WCW a player again,ppl reference the NWO but Bischoff’s best play was Hogan. And CM Punk aint Hulk Hogan.
CM Punk's "Are you sick of me yet?" booking with him on every commentary has fans already burnt on him. I actually can't believe how bad he's been booked.
Only Travis should do Tony Khan thumbnails.
Nice to see the return of Heckl , love his comedic art !
I love South Park style draws!
Welcome back Travis 🙌🏾
The khan family and track record with sports teams in entertainment might want to walk before he runs. Eric knows Vince handle things like a army general quite look at things from all around and keep working!! Khan needs to learn from mistakes like over paying wrestlers who are over hyped
This artist. Keep him
Oh, how I have missed seeing Tony's "Adderall Eyes" staring at me from a Corny thumbnail. May the art gods bless you, Travis.
Bring back WCW style rings. Loved the huge impact sound on slams.
Eric and Jim. 2 great wrestling minds honestly. 🤷🏻♂️
That's halfway true
@@asoncalledvoonch2210 Bischoff is useful in the right capacity without too much influence. He admitted himself about his occasional ego trips. Jim is a loose cannon. Both have potential to be great wrestling minds
Tony looks like david blain in the super best friends episode of south park here twa
I always thought that Eric bischoff had no class but Tony brings it to a whole new level and sadly Vince looks like 1 classy fellow cause he's been silent the whole time
vince classy... LOL
Welcome back Travis!!!!
I'd love to see the rankings of the wrestling podcasts.
Jericho would win, he would find a demo from somwhere.
Tony could stand to stop using social media to **** himself. Use it to advertise his product and the actual wrestlers instead. His use of Twitter of out of control, even if that is AEW's advantage over WWE.
96’ stage?so he gonna form a faction like NWO?
He has nobody of that
Stature
@Awesome Sauce If Roman freaking Reigns walked into the AEW crowd, grabbed a mic and said "you know how I am, but don't know why I'm here" the ratings would be absolutely nuclear. Then the next week Brock or Edge shows up with Roman saying "this is where the big dogs play, huh?". There's not a person in the world who wouldn't tune into that. Instead we get CM Punk coming out for commentary every week with the same promo asking the crowd "are you sick of me yet?!". TK can't hold Eric's jock and EB knows it.
Well, the Fucks and Cole are already calling themselves 'The Super Clique'
@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid, the only problem with what you said (in my opinion) is the fact that there are no true surprises anymore. The average wrestling fan back during the wars either a) didn't have access to "dirt sheets," b) didn't know they existed, or c) didn't care. I miss the days where we had to tune in because we didn't know what was coming. It feels like everyone went and outsmarted themselves out of a good time. I'm not arguing...just conversation.
Never thought I'd say this but has Jim completely missed the point here!? I think Bischoff is saying for him to stop acting like he's in the 96 situation not to actually put himself head to head this second.
TK is coming off poorly with his recent interview/ Twitter nonsense. He's acting like a brat but at the same time, he's doing what the AEW diehards love, taking shots at WWE. That's why they were all gloating about that nonsense "win".
So this is where the big boys play... Look at the adjective... play
Cornette is getting soft on tony