What a great result. The ones I made for the workshop (you know the flags!) make a huge difference when speaking to camera on videos but they also deaden the sound when tools are running and importantly stop the neighbour from complaining! There is something that you did in the video which is beneficial which you might not realise. By having the panels stand-off the wall you create an air gap which improves the effectiveness of the panel. Energy is lost from sound as it transitions from one medium to another. Anyway a good reference on YT if you haven't seen it is Accoustic Geometry's - How Sound Works (in rooms) if you want to link to something scientific.
Great work with the "low tech" approach. And even if they aren't that effective (which they are), with such a low cost you could litter the room with panels to get wanted effect. They are so flexible when it comes to the visual bit.
Great build Keith. Cheap and effective. For real DIY averse folk try a sheet of foam board with 50mm Rockwool covered with an old lined curtain. A few pegs or bulldog clips and viola they're done! 😀
Great vid, I'm amazed how small they are, I thought you were going to need to fill the whole wall. This has made me want to look at our noisy utility room issue again.
Yeah rock wool is really good stuff. I’m a semi professional drummer and I use very similar panels (that I also built) in my home studio. They’re double as thick and mounted more securely. And I get almost no reverb in the room (four brick walls). I do use some of the foam panels too but they’re the high end kind and are to reduce specific frequencies that are an issue in the room
We installed a lot of those proper shaped foam panels in a brass band rehearsal room and it made a dramatic difference to the acoustic. Guess it depends where and how you use them, but they certainly worked in our case.
It certainly will, but while 60mm is fine for improving voice quality, it's is a bit thin for serious bass trapping for music recording anyway. My studio ceiling has 100mm Rockwool and a 100mm air gap to the ceiling above it. It's close to the performance of 200mm of Rockwool but there not much benefit in making the air gap bigger than the Rockwool thickness.
We rehearse in a studio that has been treated with panels just like these. It really is amazing how dry the room sounds. They've also got 2 of them suspended from the ceiling with roughly 8 inches above. I'm not sure if the gap actually provides any benefit, but they have LEDs around the top of them to give a nice soft diffused light
Nicely done mate. Bloody effective and look smart. Can't help but feel there was a lost opportunity to combine your video and music editing skills. Pop, 1, 2, 3 mashup.😂
If you space the panel off the wall, you can improve the performance of the panel. Spacing the panel off the wall the same distance as the rockwool is thick, will improve performance by 100%. Handy if you have the space in the room to do that.
@2:49. Interesting. I never thought to use a saw to cut Rockwool. Next time I need to make some more panels, I'll definitely use this tip. Last time I secretly used a bread knife - LOL I had similar results. It's so much easier to edit the sound when you don't have to deal with reverb that you don't want.
For hiding the staples to protect the wall, look into fusible fabric tape. Most of it has the iron-on adhesive double-sided, called fusible web, for creating a hem in clothing with your iron, without doing stitching. But there are single-sided options, adhesive on one side, in varying widths and colors (usually white or black, but perhaps there are others).
Nice work fella! You’re absolutely right about those foam tiles, decent sound panels make a brilliant difference. I believe you can mount them a little distance from the wall as well to make them even more effective?
Looks nice, but I think you forgot one important consideration: health. Rockwool is not safe to breathe. We can see you in the video wearing a mask when installing it on the ceiling. When installing the Rockwool behind the plasterboard in the walls, maybe there is less risk, but in this case, I don't see how you can avoid breathing in those fibers and the chemicals that keep them together. Sorry to be a party pooper, but I read the comments and noticed that nothing was mentioned about this. Many other people are seeing your videos, so I think you have the responsibility to think, research a bit, and talk about these things (this also applies to your own health). I enjoy your channel, keep up the good work, and thank you for sharing many real-life DIY tips and builds. I really appreciate your work!
@@RagnBoneBrown great work sir.. how does it sound from other areas of your house? Like do the panels make noise from the room lower. Is the noise from the room lower from other areas of your house? I want to install panels but I'm not too much concerned with how much sound is in the room I want to keep sound from going out to other areas of my house.
I mainly play music on my Logitech pc speakers and through a Google home device. Music sounds much better in the room now, much clearer - it's made a big difference.
Great video, where did you get the fabric? I couldn’t see a link in the description. It’s just what I’ve been looking for colour wise and I like the pattern.
For us, in a bungalow, we know that all the power comes down from the loft straight down the walls to the sockets and light switches. But it's different for every home. You can get electrical testers for scanning the walls, but they're not all that reliable, or at least the one I have isn't!
That's the best place for bass trapping which you need to make good music recordings, but he's going for wideband absorption for voice, and panels on the wall are a good way to get that. Even so, I'm still hearing a honk around 200 - 300Hz region - sounds like a quite sharp resonance. Floor to ceiling, maybe?
Rockwool is actually one of the better acoustic materials out there. Just not a very nice material to work with maybe? If anything, I would close off the back with some cotton fabric or so, just to get the Rockwool dust particles out. For some people they can be an issue with breathing etc.
@@RagnBoneBrown No I know, but Rockwool has a tendency to kind of peel off after a while. I worked with it for years, actually also in acoustics and making acoustic panels as well! :)
The fabric that you chose makes the panels look like an art insulation, a long way from egg boxes, Keith! Great result. I’m sure Dylan will approve🙂👍🏽
Thank you!
ah, but with egg crates you can do your KORN News reports: th-cam.com/video/8XiOJQIEDC4/w-d-xo.html
What a great result. The ones I made for the workshop (you know the flags!) make a huge difference when speaking to camera on videos but they also deaden the sound when tools are running and importantly stop the neighbour from complaining!
There is something that you did in the video which is beneficial which you might not realise. By having the panels stand-off the wall you create an air gap which improves the effectiveness of the panel. Energy is lost from sound as it transitions from one medium to another.
Anyway a good reference on YT if you haven't seen it is Accoustic Geometry's - How Sound Works (in rooms) if you want to link to something scientific.
Cheers Karl, that's good to know - happy accident!! 👍 I will check out that video
Thanks, Keith. I think I'll try these in my garage and son's room.
Great result. I think your upholstery's getting better 👍
Great job! I love your telecaster on the wall.
Great work with the "low tech" approach. And even if they aren't that effective (which they are), with such a low cost you could litter the room with panels to get wanted effect. They are so flexible when it comes to the visual bit.
This is fun, and I'm glad it add something not too intense to the mix.
Great job on the acoustic panels Keith! Thanks for sharing the video with us!💖👍😎JP
Great build Keith. Cheap and effective. For real DIY averse folk try a sheet of foam board with 50mm Rockwool covered with an old lined curtain. A few pegs or bulldog clips and viola they're done! 😀
That's it, I'm building some! Thanks, Keith!
Crackin' job young man. Well done. Serious difference in the before and after there. Thanks for sharing.
Pretty cool project Keith and really effective too even over a video. Great video mate 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow! Especially the curtain comparison!
Nice one. Really tempted to make some for my studio
Great vid, I'm amazed how small they are, I thought you were going to need to fill the whole wall. This has made me want to look at our noisy utility room issue again.
Genius what a great result
Wow, could hear the difference Even on my stoneage mobile phone.
Nice Job, good video.
Cheers
Yeah rock wool is really good stuff. I’m a semi professional drummer and I use very similar panels (that I also built) in my home studio. They’re double as thick and mounted more securely. And I get almost no reverb in the room (four brick walls). I do use some of the foam panels too but they’re the high end kind and are to reduce specific frequencies that are an issue in the room
We installed a lot of those proper shaped foam panels in a brass band rehearsal room and it made a dramatic difference to the acoustic. Guess it depends where and how you use them, but they certainly worked in our case.
As acoustic engineer…increasing the air gap between the panel and the wall will improve Bass performance of the panel! Great job!
It certainly will, but while 60mm is fine for improving voice quality, it's is a bit thin for serious bass trapping for music recording anyway. My studio ceiling has 100mm Rockwool and a 100mm air gap to the ceiling above it. It's close to the performance of 200mm of Rockwool but there not much benefit in making the air gap bigger than the Rockwool thickness.
Very very impressive, great video
We rehearse in a studio that has been treated with panels just like these. It really is amazing how dry the room sounds. They've also got 2 of them suspended from the ceiling with roughly 8 inches above. I'm not sure if the gap actually provides any benefit, but they have LEDs around the top of them to give a nice soft diffused light
Great project and tip on the product. Thank you :-)
Love the podcast!
These are great, I must make some
Nicely done mate. Bloody effective and look smart. Can't help but feel there was a lost opportunity to combine your video and music editing skills. Pop, 1, 2, 3 mashup.😂
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That was very impressive.
An envelope stuck to the wall with masking tape just under where you drill can catch all your plaster dust. Thank you for the video.
If you space the panel off the wall, you can improve the performance of the panel. Spacing the panel off the wall the same distance as the rockwool is thick, will improve performance by 100%. Handy if you have the space in the room to do that.
@2:49. Interesting. I never thought to use a saw to cut Rockwool. Next time I need to make some more panels, I'll definitely use this tip. Last time I secretly used a bread knife - LOL I had similar results. It's so much easier to edit the sound when you don't have to deal with reverb that you don't want.
Pretty nice work, Keith! 😃
You know what? I'm going to start looking for that foam here in Brazil!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Отличная работа 👍👍👍
Nice one Keith.
For hiding the staples to protect the wall, look into fusible fabric tape. Most of it has the iron-on adhesive double-sided, called fusible web, for creating a hem in clothing with your iron, without doing stitching. But there are single-sided options, adhesive on one side, in varying widths and colors (usually white or black, but perhaps there are others).
Nice work fella! You’re absolutely right about those foam tiles, decent sound panels make a brilliant difference.
I believe you can mount them a little distance from the wall as well to make them even more effective?
Cheers Dean I need to try that! 👍
Educational and hilarious 😂
Nicely done
Looks nice, but I think you forgot one important consideration: health.
Rockwool is not safe to breathe. We can see you in the video wearing a mask when installing it on the ceiling. When installing the Rockwool behind the plasterboard in the walls, maybe there is less risk, but in this case, I don't see how you can avoid breathing in those fibers and the chemicals that keep them together.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but I read the comments and noticed that nothing was mentioned about this. Many other people are seeing your videos, so I think you have the responsibility to think, research a bit, and talk about these things (this also applies to your own health).
I enjoy your channel, keep up the good work, and thank you for sharing many real-life DIY tips and builds. I really appreciate your work!
Listening with headphones I'd say the curtains made a very significant improvement as well. Perhaps as much as a the panels.
Got to say those curtains helped stopped reverb for my ears. Greatvstuff
Nice tell on the wall
Thanks for sharing! Great video 😊
They've definitely reduce the high pitched top end volume and eliminated the echo. Good result Keith with a modern stylish look as well. Tony
Thanks Tony, they surprised me!
@@RagnBoneBrown great work sir.. how does it sound from other areas of your house? Like do the panels make noise from the room lower. Is the noise from the room lower from other areas of your house? I want to install panels but I'm not too much concerned with how much sound is in the room I want to keep sound from going out to other areas of my house.
Such a difference! Can I ask how music playback sounds (assuming you have speakers on your computer) now?
I mainly play music on my Logitech pc speakers and through a Google home device. Music sounds much better in the room now, much clearer - it's made a big difference.
Nice guitar
That's amazing.
Great video, where did you get the fabric? I couldn’t see a link in the description. It’s just what I’ve been looking for colour wise and I like the pattern.
Nice one Keith - is that a Tele with a Bigsby bridge I spy? Go on...give us a lick!
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@@RagnBoneBrown awesome! I've recently picked up a USA Strat Pro after 15 years of acoustic...halfway down the effects pedal rabbit hole - no regrets!
What a difference! Small question.. How can I find out if there's electricity cables in a wall?
For us, in a bungalow, we know that all the power comes down from the loft straight down the walls to the sockets and light switches. But it's different for every home. You can get electrical testers for scanning the walls, but they're not all that reliable, or at least the one I have isn't!
Dude that’s cool 😎
Big difference for little effort - just my kind of project. I'm sure it will make editing less of a headache too.
Very good results! Why you went and talked from the shop after doing this im not sure though :)
nice guitar there
Great job. Just curious, what is the tatoo on your elbow?
Thanks. Harvest. It's a Neil Young album
Keith use an old envelope to catch dust while drilling wall 😀
They say, These panels works well when they are given 50mm air gap behind the panel? Have you checked the difference?
So, I always thought bass traps in the corners of the room were the most important? It’d be interesting to see/hear you make and try those?
That's the best place for bass trapping which you need to make good music recordings, but he's going for wideband absorption for voice, and panels on the wall are a good way to get that. Even so, I'm still hearing a honk around 200 - 300Hz region - sounds like a quite sharp resonance. Floor to ceiling, maybe?
I check check checked the like button..
I hope you washed your hands before doing that test! 😂
Amazing results Keith.
😆👍
What shade of green is that on your wall? Looks amazing
Yes I need to know this too! Help, closure required!
NOOICE
El Chimpo makes that popping sound too but it’s usually when I want a banana 🍌
Rockwool is actually one of the better acoustic materials out there. Just not a very nice material to work with maybe?
If anything, I would close off the back with some cotton fabric or so, just to get the Rockwool dust particles out.
For some people they can be an issue with breathing etc.
As explained in the video, it's not going to be disturbed. I am not throwing them around
@@RagnBoneBrown No I know, but Rockwool has a tendency to kind of peel off after a while. I worked with it for years, actually also in acoustics and making acoustic panels as well! :)
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£15 DIY Acoustic Panels > £1500 DIY Equipment 🤣 Good directions though! think it will take my small Saw a bit longer
you will get more dampening if you hang the panels 5 cm or more from the wall.
Sounded like the curtains had the mist effect.
I can't tell the difference.... I wonder why 🤦😂
Your rough is my good lol
To me... not much of a difference. Only noticed then showing side by side. Had no problems with your audio from the beginning.
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Didn’t sound any difference to me.