Finn X Flame Princess: The Dark Side of Dating Adventure Time SHIPS
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The fact they made him gain a new perspective and see how gross he acted is top tier writing, he's still a good person but good people can screw up badly. It's really good for kids to see their hero character become aware of this and genuinely apologize.
This!! I feel it’s healthy to not just show good relationships or “enemies to lovers” or getting back with you ex etc. It’s good to show kids some relationships just don’t work. And that’s okay
@cariñito They did that with Bubbline though.
@Chris Perez it’s good to show all different types of relationships, it’s just refreshing to see ones we don’t usually see like the way Finn and FP ended up.
Marinette could never
Agreed
I too wish for more cartoons that dealt with the drama of "being together," not "waiting to be allowed to get together."
Even shows that do that often struggle with it as for some reason the only drama they can think of comes from threatening to break them up which gets old fast and sucks any joy out of the relationship.
I found 2 anime/manga/comics that fit this style.
Horimiya and Love is Hard for an Otaku
They are so refreshing.
Not a cartoon but chainsaw man,s relationships start pretty quickly. It's getting an anime adaptation in 2022 the manga is a great currently
@@demetrian7856 Vouch!! Horimiya and Wotakoi are one of the bests series I know that do this
@@demetrian7856 Wotakoi really needs a second season. I'm not big on romance anime, but it remains one of my favorite anime despite that. It's such a refreshing concept to see
I always hated the fact as a kid watching this that there was a spell that can let Fin touch Flame Princess without being burned yet they never decided to use that spell again 😂
It was very frustrating yes.
The show manages to be an interesting blend of serialized and episodic.
Aw budget cuts. Where would we be without them?
Ik
@@artsenalproductions4813 It definitely has nothing to do with the budget. The cost of animating him being wrapped up in tin foil alone costs far more than if they just drew him in blue.
I love that when flame princess saw the red flag, she left. That’s seriously so inspiring.
Such a great way of teaching kids, they do you wrong, you leave. What a queen
Am glad he actually apologised properly to her though
Makes sense but I don’t really get how it’s inspiring it’s just good advice
@@PintoBeeanfor a lot of girls it's really hard to stop justifying abuse and say no, since we are conditioned to people please and always be "overly understanding" and put everyone's needs and comfort over our safety and needs. So yeah, it's not just good advice, it can change people's lives by teaching them to leave an abusive person once for al.
I think Phoebe is such a great female character. She has been demonized constantly by a lot of people but she decided she wanted to do things right without caring about how others perceived her, plus, she decided to not tolerate toxic behaviour even if the person who did it actually had some good qualities or helped her improve. It doesn't excuse it. I guess I relate to her sometimes
@@berserker3414 cool but me personally that ain’t me if I seen someone making fun of me or doing this or that nigga im swinging right back bro than we even and we can go back to doin what we was doin before so basically I’m takin them down with me
I like that they showed off how good people can get in toxic relationships, I don't like that it happened with the only ship I really liked
Makes it feel more realistic. Having a good 'ship' turn out bad is something that happens way too often, cause real life exists.
@@alienenby doesn't mean I can't be salty about it
@@soundsofstabbing3627 I think salty is the correct Chemical Response.
@Tank Slushy All of Finn’s relationships were a waste of time in general. It’s like he was destined to be alone, with Jake being the only strong bond he has.
@@soundsofstabbing3627 She was made of literal fire. This was bound to happen sooner or later
some ppl: "I can't believe finn screwed up his relationship so badly!"
me: *remembers when finn thought putting wolves in PB's room and wrestling her to the floor would get her to go out w/ him* "eh not that surprising"
*Ah*
I think Marceline was low-key trying to screw him over with the bad dating advice she gave him that episode. We all know why she did that.
@@chrisperez9854 yeah it was more Marceline's fault
@@chrisperez9854
*Finn:* Can you give me dating advice for asking out Bubblegum?
*Marceline, immediately thinking of a million ways to humiliate her ex:* YES
@@cartoonishidealism582 That was part of the reason why she did that, but I also get the feeling that Marceline didn’t want Finn to go on a date with PB due to lingering feelings for her, as ridiculous as that sounds.
"Finn watched a girl break into his house, kick his ass, burn down a village, and he decided he needs that in his life."
Yeah usually that instinct doesn't kick in til you're 30.
Finn's first Bipolar GF.
"I love the kind of woman that can -just actually kill me- kick my ass" -Spike Spiegel
@@hankshill71 literally her feelings from chemical imbalance causes her powers to make her destructive
the show showed kids and teenagers in relationships very realistically. Finn was 13/14 when he dated FP and i think 15/16 when he realized what he did wrong and properly apologized to her. i appreciate that they committed to realistic emotional growth in a teen character who actually aged over the course of the show.
Nah they were about the same age with Pheobe probably a few months older.
@@csokops they're saying that. the ages are when they got together (both between 13-14) and when Finn realized what he actually did and officially apologized (between 15-16).
Then there was the Lich who felt like he came from an entirely different genre
😮😮😮😮 I didn't think of that
as an teenager I can agree that we are proffesional idiots.
The fact that the series ended *without* Finn ending up in a relationship is a surprising breath of fresh air. But it also says a lot about Finn's character growth after his timultuous relationships with PB, FP, and the "kissing around" he did afterwards.
A lot as in…? 😯
I mean he in kinda with the forest witch
@Tank Slushy
Watch fin and jake together again. He dies without ever marrying someone or having kids.
@@hamstermain8327 except for his pillow kids, but they've been removed from existence so...
oh yeah and "technically" stormo but like idk abt that one folks
Didn’t he have a thing going on with huntress wizard or something?
I really felt that Flame Princess was truly allowed to grow as a character after the breakup happened. When she was introduced, she was simply known as "Finn's new love interest who has some emotional instability". However, I like how the writers gave her some real agency after the breakup and she decided to take control of her own life and become her own person that wasn't defined by anyone else. Instead of filling the role that PB left as Finn's love interest and not doing much else, she actually became an intriguing character on her own merits.
i still very much ascribe to the notion that had Finn gone to ANYONE besides Jake he wouldn't have ended up abusing FP's trust. Jake doesn't have Jake as a best friend/confidant so he never had this problem despite being objectively worse in comparison to Finn which allowed the part that would help the relationship flourish which is why he has kids and a functioning marriage.
at least this isnt Ben 10 where the whole situation could've been corrected if Jullie had called literally anyone in Ben's circle and after she breaks up with him she becomes a non-character beyond tongue-in-cheek jokes about their past relationship and being joined with Ship at the hip because honestly they only needed Ship
If she could be able to change and develop and still date Finn, it be great. But it’s not and it’s the way it is now too
@@fictionverse7292 also unlike Ben 10 it appears that either they just workshopped FP's rise to true character status or at least had a plan for this aspect of Finn's life while Ben 10 was more of a "we cant trash this asian tennis girl fast enough for the middle eastern swordswoman that might also be a furry"
@Lucille Presley I just said that I believed she became a more interesting character after the breakup happened. In fact, I think every single character got more interesting as the show went on longer and longer. That’s what character development is. No need to get mad.
@Lucille Presley im pretty sure most people just don't like HOW it happened as the thematic reason is perfectly understandable down to the part of PB abusing his affection for some relief from her high-stress job and once she had to go back to said job she had to stop being a kid and move past kid stuff which happened to include Finn.
honestly, while it was totally Finn's fault the fact he went to Jake just kinda muddies it cus Jake is a "cause interpersonal conflicts that really didnt need to happen" kinda character
I can relate w/ FP. Growing up in an overprotective household, seeing the world for the first time, being manipulated by suitors, and having destructive emotions that can hurt many people. The fact that she is still able to be w/ her family but not be labeled w/ sterotypes/labels is eye opening. I really like this show
200th like ❤🎉
Can’t believe I can understand this show much better the more I watch and older I get. This is why cartoon/animation isn’t just a kid’s thing. It’s such a perfect medium for talented individuals to express their ideas without being limited like the live action counterparts.
Took me years later to understand that "pillow innuendo" and im 20 years old
I actually like the fact that this kid's show wasn't afraid to make the main character a pretty unlikable person. Many other shows would give them minor flaws the main character gets over in an episode but adventure time actually gave finn a long character arc throughout the show rather than delivering quick simple messages.
The whole breakup seemed really contrived. The cosmic owl showing up in the dream is what kinda ruins it because as far as the audience and Finn knows at that point it's a prophetic dream. The other Cosmic owl dream warned Finn about Billy's death and so it makes sense Finn would do something about it but the idea to manipulate them into fighting doesn't seem like a realistic thing he would ever think of especially since he doesn't do anything to rig the fight in her favor so it's like he just does it to see if she'll die rather than wait for it to happen. It's like if in Avatar if Sokka instead of being protective of Suki because he got overprotective after losing his last girlfriend he instead tries to egg her into doing dangerous shit cause he wants to see if she'll die. I almost wanna say they had Finn have the insane out of nowhere idea just so they could skip a normal overprotective reaction. There's just too many contrivances for it not to seem like bad writing. If Finn didn't have the prophetic dream that supposed to be some sort of warning it never would have happened, instead of having the most obvious reaction he has some completely backwards idea which doesn't even make sense on its own, instead of just tricking Ice King into the fights he exclusively uses her personal secrets to gaslight her when Ice king would be way easier to trick, Finn doesn't do anything to help guarantee she'll win even though the whole idea should hinge on him wanting her to win. It just plays out like he gets a warning about her possibly dying and psychotically gaslights her into the situation where he thinks she'll die for fun.
@@nathantower5565 I agree that was completely stupid. They really could've just had Finn do just about anything else and it would've been a more realistic break up. Would've been interesting if Finn and Flame Princess rushed the relationship too fast and Flame princess realizes this and Finn being the dumbass he is doesn't see the problem or ignores it. So Flame princess leaves him to figure her life out herself. It doesn't have to be that but yknow anything is better than Finn nearly killing his girlfriend because of a cosmic wet dream.
@@kingcyclops4079 I think that would have worked way better as well. Teenagers at that age have different mindsets when it comes to relationships and it makes sense that she'd be on the opposite end of the spectrum since he's a hopeless romantic and she's barely been allowed outside of her father's castle her entire life. It would perfectly explain why he goes into the following phase. He literally goes into a psychotic episode inside a pillow fort because she didn't laugh at a joke so idk why the show did a 180 and acted like he's insensitive and dumb
@@nathantower5565 it was this joke in the video "so this is basically adventure time" where all the writers just eat glue while Rebecca Sugar writes all the good episodes. That's probably not true at all (considering Rebecca also made the finale to Steven universe) but makes me wonder who's idea was to have the break up go that way???
I wouldn't describe him as "pretty unlikable" in any sense of the word? "Realistically flawed" is more accurate.
You forgot to mention how Flame Princess is the first person to really challenge Bubblegum's authoritarianism, thus setting her on the path of growth that ultimately ended with her hooking back up with Marceline.
TRUUUUUUUUUU
Huge.
The only other character that attempts to do that is peacemaster.
how did she challenge PB’s authoritarianism though (just asking btw)
@@aini6570 The best example off the top of my head is the episode where PB tries to shut off flame princesses weapons of mass destruction and FP tries to stop her.
“500 days of summer” also pulled this theme off well. A relationship from beginning to end. And how just because it wasn’t “forever” doesn’t mean it’s not as important to a persons life and growth as a “forever” relationship
I really liked the dream sequences where the fire Finn is surrounded by and begins messing around with is symbolic of his horniness/desire to press this further. It's a nice bit of visual story telling that culminates in Finn getting dumped. Not keeping his horniness in check and manipulating Flame Princess into doing things she didn't necessarily want to do bit him in the ass. When you play with fire, sooner or later you get burned.
I actually get what this means. Its like that point in a relationship where the guy or girl wants to go to the next step and they have this weird thing they want to do with their partner and their partner isn't comfy or isn't ready yet or doesn't want to go to the next stage yet so they emotionally manipulate their partner to get them to do it which inevitably gets the dumped by their partner.
Says the single bisexual person who had no romantic exp scores
"Wait, it's a girl..............Dude, I think I have a crush!" was what finn said the moment he realized FP was a female and not a raging flame monster and I think anyone should've realized from there that the relationship simply wouldnt work.
To Finn, she was pretty much just a way for him to get over Bubblegum. Finn didn’t value her as a person, but rather as a crutch.
@@chrisperez9854 I feel like that's a stretch. I think deep down, he does care about her as a person and more than a crutch.
@@huynhvuongviet2410 Honestly I don't like FP that much either. the entire romance arc felt so unneeded and FP felt like a fanfiction character made by a 12 year old. Her character arc was very generic "find your true self uwu" and the entire ordeal was made to solve the Finn/PB issue when it could've just as easily been solved with a dipper/wendy -esque scene where PB gently rejects finn, tells him that she's actually VERY old, and doesn't look like a monster in the process (i still remember the awful episode that villified her in favor of making flame princess look more like a victim)
@@Meriamfunlandagain I actually really enjoyed their romance and was invested in their relationship development (before Frost and Fire). I mean the potential to write a powerful love story is there. Maybe it could have been handled better with care and good-writing.
OK yeah. I will give you that. They could have just made PB confront Finn so that their relationship can stay platonic instead of adding a third person in. That's just lazy writing.
Are you talking about the episode where they introduced the Flame guardian, who was never mentioned again and was instead used as a plot device to villianize PB and victimize FP? Yeah that's BS. Also, wasted potential with the guardians too. Would have loved to see where they were going with that.
Honestly, I just think FP character was done dirty throughout the entire series. She was introduced because Finn needs a girlfriend. After the breakup, she has so little screentime, it just sucks. Like her last major appearance before the finale was a rap battle against son of rap bear? Seriously?
@@Meriamfunlandagain I just saw FP as gender-reversed Tahu from Bionicle
I love that they show Finn as in the wrong but not a villain, he feels pretty bad after and flame princess doesn’t hate him, just doesn’t want to date him. It’s a realistic relationship between teenagers with a lot of their own problems not a one sided abuse story
yet people in an aesthetic video about the finn pb and fb love triangle are straight up flaming bonnie just because she didn't want to be with finn
Finn did nothing wrong
@@martinjugolin2087 ‘Everything
@@itzrainy_outside4450 no
@@martinjugolin2087 yes
In 12:42 i didnt notice this before but he has a pillow mechanical arm, foreshadowing that he will lose his arm and that it was already written since then, because fin still has an arm in this season. Very cool!
I believe almost all of Finn's alternate or imagined selves have a missing/artificial right arm.
Such a random thing to share but my dad literally kidnapped me as a child and I didn’t know my family for 8 years - so FP was a massive deal for me. I felt like I related to her massively especially due to the strength of my emotions following my abuse. I’ve also had men try to manipulate me and told them to suck it. Adventure Time was a great show - I’m glad I found it when I did. 😊
Damn... Could you tell us more? I'll like to help
@IsmaelSaenz-xl5fo wanna talk?
Extremely extremely minor comment: I always particularly enjoyed how the show would regularly have the princesses’ outfits, hairstyles, and appearances change. It was always so much fun to see, just a nice little quirk. I was so happy they even had flame princess, with literal fire for hair, switch it up into different styles too. c:
Same
kinda sad they didn't do it with finn. always th classic blue shirt, shorts, and bear hat.
@@aaerondight5163 well, they did have him switch up his arm every now and then, ha
Yeah they always changed the female characters outfits but never the ice king Finn or any of the male characters
Yess also bubblegum and marceline outfits hairstyles all of them is awesome
Flame Princess and Finn's friendship despite the horrific break up is literally the nicest thing ever. Every single interaction after they reconcile is more rewarding than their relationship ever could have been.
This is a galaxy brain take. You hit the nail right on the head! Thank you for sharing.
I hate her, I hate how all girls treat Finn is unfair
exists in the background of a CB episode and FP screws up her kingdom part 3 = nicest thing ever
AGREEEEEEEEE
Honestly, I loved when someone (I want to say Lumpy Space Princess) asked him if he was trying to get back together with Flame Princess and he talks about how they have a friendship that he's worked on hard on rebuilding and that he's proud of. He seemed a little angry at the question.
I really don’t like that the Cosmic Owl plays a part in their breakup. We’ve seen consistently throughout the show that the Cosmic Owl is a force to be reckoned with. There’s even an entire episode from the owls perspective on what can happen if he’s present, even during the most mundane dreams. If it had only been Finn contending with his own confusing feelings, the episode would have worked so much better, but the Owl just serves to deprive Finn of agency in this situation.
I 100% agree. But it also really shows how much finn matured to still take responsibility for his messup
@@servine1212 Less maturing, more stupidity.
What really leaves a sour taste in my mouth from this debacle is Jake's "advice" to Finn and how they never took that up again. Jake can be unapologetically dumb sometimes. I thought he was gonna tell Finn to finish the dream by going back to sleep, but no, he told him to "make them fight again".. wtf?!.
Yeah, I tend to skip this episode and pretty much the whole breakup era between Finn and FP. I can understand and see the message here but I consider this as a “one watch and be done” scenario. I kinda felt that the whole experience was rushed though. We’ve known for a while that the Cosmic Owl is an important being and when he appears in Finn’s dream that led Jake to saying that the fight between FP and IK had an important meaning. Finn messed up as he’s 13(?) and still young. No one is an expert. And he had remorse. I felt that the inclusion of Cinnamon Bun was . . . random and kinda forced but it kinda makes sense I guess. As a kid, when I saw when Finn was trying to explain to FP about why he did what he did because of his dreams with the Cosmic Owl, it was shifted to her point of view which she was hearing gibberish, literally. Kid me thought that she wasn’t paying attention and didn’t hear his reasoning thinking he only wrote the note to hurt her. But as a I got older, I can understand as she heard Finn saying he caused all of this and was so surprised she couldn’t believed it and zoned out.
While I still feel that the writers kinda dropped the whole breakup thing out of no where, I’m at least glad they’re still good friends. Still love Finn’s character by the way.
The way Finn made up with her was so grown-up and impressive of the character. The main character of a kids show making mistakes and hurting people, and taking full responsibility for it and making up is something we don’t see much. I’m genuinely impressed with how Finn matured as a person, and accepted how he messed up with her. Their friendship after that episode is one of the most wholesome ones I’ve seen on TV, which is why the two are probably my favorite characters on the show, or even cartoons in general.
"they were teenagers and teenagers fuck up" Me when 30 year olds ask why didn't Catra or Adora act like 40 year old mature women
El gasp, you mean the militarisic hero and the chaotic khajit whom both had an abusive mentor and didn't know the other fancied them had no idea how romance worked? Surely you jest!
@@falconeshield What the fuck is a Khadjit
@@markdaniels1839 Probably Catra's species
@@Ampheline
Elderscrolls catoid race
@@anonymousfellow8879 Ah, I see
Yea that was painful to watch. But I really appreciated the down to earth realism of it. As Ice King put it eloquently: "You blew it man". And there was nothing to add to that, just accept and moce on. On a side note, will you also cover Huntress Wizard. I know there is so little about her, but she was so so so cool.
Huntress Wizard was awesome. I think her more chill and laid-back vibe would be perfect for the more mature Finn that we saw in the later seasons. Big reason why I always assumed that they low-key got together after the show ended.
@@philly_sports1558 This is my head-canon and I will REFUSE to ever change it
@philly_sports I think she went her separate ways with Finn. Finn never mentioned her in all of Distant Lands. Finn’s happy without a romantic partner as he has Jake as his eternal best friend. Probably for the best since romance has always been a dead end for him, friendship is what he should truly care about.
@@chrisperez9854 Jake didn't mention Lady Rainicorn or his kids so I don't think that means much
Moce
Rewatching this episode after seeing a million times now, I can safely say that I completely agree with what the Cosmic Owl and the Ice King told Finn: You blew it!
I'm going to be honest with you. This ship self-destructing so magnificently started the beginning of the end of my interest in Adventure Time. I basically went through all the stages of grief over the course of the next year or two, going all the way from Denial through Bargaining until finally reaching Acceptance around the time of the season finale with the Comet. I still watched that season finale, but after that, I really didn't bother paying attention to any future releases from this show. And I don't like to admit it because it feels petty to drop an otherwise good show over a ship. But fuck it, I don't care, I'm mad as hell about it.
Shipping can be quite harsh. Sometimes you end up caring more about the relationship than the actual individuals in it and even more so than the story(in varying degrees). And when it doesn't work you don't even care about the reason it happened and hope they get back together, but life doesn't work like that.
Still can't help feeling like that even if it's cringe or immature or pathetic.
@@LuminousOriens Nice...
That's facts dude. It's sucked what happened with Finn and FP. I watched the show when I was younger and never got the time to finish it. I just finished rewatching it yesterday and am still not happy that they never got back together along with a few other unfinished arcs.
Very sad that you and other ppl are so willing to drop a good show just bc your pairing didn’t happen lmao. It is petty. Some of you are far too invested in fictional relationships
Oh wow, I just realized that Finn in the Breezy episode was going through an allegory for meaningless sex during depression/a breakup, seeking something to fill the void.
But the double standard on sexual harassment though
@@KaminoKatie Yeah, LSP in that episode was. . . . something.
@@aceofsharks9837 If the genders are reversed, absolutely no one will defend this decision
@@KaminoKatie Yeah, there's a bit of a cultural problem where sexual harassment upon men is played for laughs. Admittedly, despite being a male victim of sexual exploitation, I still chuckle at jokes like that.
I don't necessarily think such jokes should be entirely expunged, but there's certainly a conversation to be had about them.
@@KaminoKatie I'm glad you said that because I still can't watch that episode the same at the same that. I don't know why many shows choose to play off that for comedic affect. I guarantee you that the rules were reversed that would be a crap storm. Seriously Finn legit got raped and they played it off for laughs.
I was happy about Flame princess and Finn until the show said time to shoot happiness
Same dude, it sucked hard for me when I first watched the show
Would’ve been nice to see them reconcile like PB and Marceline did. They broke up on similarly bad terms and they managed to get together, so maybe the same could’ve and probably should’ve happened with Finn and FP.
@@chrisperez9854 I supposedly heard that both the voice actors for both Finn and Flame Princess actually wanted them to get back together
@@chrisperez9854 The series is over so the chance is low unless you want head canon.
@@chrisperez9854 they had to get together cuz happy lesbian ending
13:41 Perfection
Finn: Did I get shown up by Cinnamon Bun?
Their breakup episode really upset me because I really felt the whole "will of the author" in the episode. The big thing that bothers me is that Jake is totally on board with manipulating flame princess and throughout the rest of the show he's usually the first one that calls Finn out on his bullshit. Jake may be an idiot but he's always been more emotionally mature than Finn and should of called him out instead of encouraging him even if it's in that weird Jake way, like poorly phrased advice that is easily misunderstood, a lecture on a completely unrelated topic, or I'm not gonna stop you but I don't support this. I remember realizing almost as soon as Jake talked to Finn after his first dream, that something was off with Jake's characterization. These sort of out of character moments happen when a character behaving normally would stifle the story the author wants to tell. And it just feels like the author cheated.
Yeah.. the author indeed cheated... And I still can't move on... They just ruined the "Would you defy nature for me" sorta thing... It sucks... :
Tbf jake only did it cause Finn mentioned the cosmic owl. And you know how spiritual/superstitious jake is
jake is that part of finn's mind which can be hold by pure emotional rush. "out of character" in jake is clearly a thing always happen to make finn learn or grow in a certain direction, jake is unaware by nature, his emotional mature comes from reading FINN, not other people because jake a finn's part.
@《P14ZY 09》 but this happens to jake many times, where Finn is in mortal danger and jake is not willing to help bc he’s mad/stubborn
That tends to happen a lot. And I agree it's rather annoying when even the authors end up forgetting how to portray their own characters.
It would be like if Captain America starts acting like an edgy hipster just because Marvel thinks it would make him relatable for a younger audience.
I was always Finn’s age as the show was coming out, which made me pretty heavily biased towards his perspective. As a little kid with not much real world awareness, I took what the show originally told me was gonna be the love interest and fully shipped Finn and Bubblegum. It’s weird looking back now and seeing just how completely romantically incompatible they are, not to mention with the knowledge that you gain later in the series. PB isn’t just an 18 year old who doesn’t want to date a 12 year old for obvious reasons, she’s an immortal elemental being who’s been around over a thousand years and has such a passing interest in the lives of mortals, her main connection to Finn is a relationship she had with his PAST LIFE.
That or Finn is just another in the long line in the people she used to fix the messes she made or get things she wants without having to do it herself.
to be fair bonnie never really remembered any of her her past lives as the older candy elementals like chatsberry besides when she talked with him so her mentality is just an 800 year old piece of gum
Yeh but in a way she was perpetually stuck as an 18 year old.. her 13 yo self reverted to childish ways. I remember 18 year old me.. talented, overly confident, ambitious, think you can do anything and everything.. age gives you the wisdom to know your limits and actually grow.
bonnie and finn have always had a good friendship tho it’s not just his past life or he’s just some kid
@@blakearius then university kicks in and you fall damn hard
12:02 how did they get away with that joke
I'd like to say that in the graphic novel "Playing With Fire" from Adventure Time, Flame Princess kisses Finn at the end of the story and Finn is surprised that he didn't burn anything, so Flame Princess tells him that she has practiced a lot for it. I recommend the novel because it gave a lot of personality that the flame princess lacked in my opinion, and it shows beautiful moments between them.
Finn had ALOT to learn about relationships. He abused, he was abused, I think he learned alot. He was constantly reflecting on himself but it took longer for some things. Personally I hated his terrible attempt at relationships but he got better the more he grew up.
He ended up dying single
@@Garl_Vinland life sucks bro
@@Garl_Vinland Meh
@@Garl_Vinland He died a loser. Oh well
@@Garl_Vinland Not the worst thing. Worst thing is to live depressed because your bro died still when you were young
"No one in the history of animation has dropped the ball harder than Finn"
Bojack Horseman would like a word with you.
*Morty enters the room* i mean,,, him and jessica? man
@@auryn8450 Morty fucked it, but nothing compares to Bojack Horseman. My guy drops the ball daily.
@@Zorak1lls true, bojack really fucked everything up :/ poor guy
@@auryn8450 ive never been more personally offended on the behalf of a tv show. how could you compare rick and morty to bojack 😐
Frank from F is for Family fucke up every episode
I've been feeling pretty nostalgic recently, so I started watching the series again. Flame princess was and still is my favorite character. I grew up with the show and mostly matched Finn's age throughout the entire show, so flame princess always reminds me of my first gf. I would love to say my relationship was healthier than Finn's, but to be honest, it wasn't much different. Thanks partly to how the series showed he did something terrible to FP, I became aware of how awful I was being in my relationship so decided to end it. With some time to work on myself and reflect on what I did wrong, I could apologize her and become friends again. To this day I still have contact with her, and I'm truly grateful to the series for showing me that it could work out, even if you fucked it up as bad as Finn did with FP.
Burning Low is definitely my favorite episode of all the series, it reminds of the days when I watched AMVs of the ship without knowing what shipping actually was. I just loved their chemistry and was everything that mattered to me. I was really sad when it ended, but seeing FP have more and more personality when new episodes about her came out was really nice. I do like to think that after the finale they end up coming back, even if there's literally nothing to support it, but is just that I love those kind of tropes. It's way more probable that Finn ended alone or with Huntress Wizard, but I don't care I guess.
Thanks for making this series of AT shippings, it's the reason I started watching the show again after all these years.
I think that part came at a perfect time for a lot of us who were teens at the time, trying to navigate dating, but being so unsure of how it works. It showed us some red flags to look for, and that things aren't that fairytale ending that Disney pushed so hard. Between Adventure Time, and Bravest Warriors, I learned a lot about how to be a teen, and what to look out for in myself and others. Besides, my partner and I really liked them and bonded over them when we were first starting to see each other as a possible romantic partner (we were friends before, but not super close).
Regular Show 😂
I think Huntress wizard was my favorite couple that never got it's chance. Easily could have been his grown up couple, maybe not his final but his healthiest.
Yesss it would’ve been so cool to see Hunteess Wizard in Distant Lands even if it was an Easter egg 😆
@@cherie..cherry IKR, I was looking forward so much to seeing Huntress wizard in the Wizard City special. And I was so disappointed when she did not show up at all.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 SHE DID NOT APPEAR IN WIZARD CITY??? WTF- well, I finally have something to hate distand lands for.
Bruh tell me how I never connected the whole “pillow world life” episode as a metaphor for Finn releasing the pent up urges and wishes that he couldn’t have with FP. That’s deep story writing
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@@kreeperkiller4423plushophile?
@@kreeperkiller4423 On today's episode of "putting 'andy' after a random word doesn't make it funny":
@@Naokarma joke police andy
@@kreeperkiller4423 It has nothing to do with policing. You're allowed to joke about what you want. That just doesn't make you funny.
Ah man to be fair I totally wold've blame Cosmic Owl for doing this to Finn, because Finn only did this by the Cosmic owl's vision, but didn't realized that it was a warning to not do so. I feel like if Finn never made that angry letters to both Flame princess and Ice King then maybe he would have kept dating Flame Princess forever by the time Season 9 and 10 appeared in Adventure time. Maybe there could've been a chance we can see that happening, but I guess it won't happen for real.
The only problem I have with this show is PB not really getting a good consequence for messing up Fin so much.
Clearly Fin's own weirdness messed him up a lot but he's a child and PB was a very intelligent adult, she knew what was going on and led him by the nose which just screwed him up in so many different ways.
yep PB is sick. she is the worst char in AT.
PB can be quite ruthless. She knew Finn was incredibly useful, so to her leading him on was an easy method of keeping him loyal.
I loved Finn and Flame Princess's relationship, until Finn messed things up hell every time i heared the Cosmic Owl say "You blew it" it made me think "Oh he more than blew it, Finn straight f'd up."
Cosmically F’D up one might say
Tank Slushy he wasn’t the one to write the letter nor did he know the context
Fully fall on Finn
@@superthorc6894 It falls to Jake, because he told finn to manipulate FP to fight IK. Jake was kinda out of character tho
**Finn f'ed up**
Ice King: You blew it man.
Cosmic Owl: You blew it.
The Cosmic Owl should look in the mirror.
It’s super important to show good people doing awful things like that. Especially with how a lot of media shows hero characters, it can be easy to come under the impression that if you’re a good person or have good intentions, hurting people is pretty much something that can’t happen. It’s so important to show people and especially kids that they can do awful things and should have the presence of mind to recognize it, own it, and change
True 😂 though ngl when it does happen usually everybody is like we're done with the good person even though often those people have done the same or worse (multiple times) like one of my fav shows Girlfriends. It's kind of annoying? Because it seems a little hypocritical. But yeah I was so mad at Finn 😂 I loved that ship so much but I'm glad they both grew from it. I wasn't able to really ship anymore after it tho.
@@felineartsy Yeah, and honestly, it kinda reminds me of my own characters. I plan to make a video game, and the main character, Pop, is a nice person, but she doesn't take things seriously, keeps making jokes and breaking the 4th wall in order to make the player laugh, but it makes her boyfriend, Desmon, incomfortable. He likes to make jokes too, but he's a lot more introverted, and Pop giving all of her attention to the player, sometimes only answering him in order to make a joke, makes him doubt their relationship. At the end, the bad guy of the story finally reaches the artifact he was searching for and makes a wish. It's a complicated story and I don't want to spoil too much in case it becomes an actual game one day, but basically, this wish makes Desmon evil. We'll save him, but we'll learn later that, with enough will and confidence, he could have made the wish ineffective. But he didn't, because he was doubting a lot recently, and even though she's kind-hearted, this is entirely Pop's fault.
@@Oceane1803 omg that sounds really cool 👀 I would love to be updated on this or so. You got a discord or something?
@@felineartsy I do. It's Oceane#1920 Also sorry for the time I took to answer. I was actually updating my Discord profile if we're gonna talk. Because I never took time to take a personalized pic and all before ^^
@@Oceane1803 It's alright! Huh maybe I should update mine too 😂
I do love how much Finn has developed after all of this happened it truly shows how much he has grown as a person.
To be fair, Finn was worried about the cosmic owl dream meaning something, although, if he was that worried, he should have told FP and I’m sure she would understand and end up helping him find out what it meant
There was a multi-episode arc of Finn accidentally burning bridges with characters. It started with flame princess, then princess bubblegum, then Marceline to a lesser extent, and even ice king if you want to get technical. The brilliant part is that none of it was resolved by the end. It took many episodes for Finn to talk to these characters again, multiple seasons in the case of FP. When coming back, Finn didn't try to crawl back like the confused wreck they left him as, but he acted professional and took responsibility when it was appropriate. That's the type of character growth few other shows have dared to do, as putting the protagonist in a bad light and having him figure himself out without the cop out forgive and forget trope is a risky move that only the best writers can pull off.
But the writing for most of it was fucking awful. They did a better job with Magic man.
@@justice8718 why is it awful?
@@KD-ou2np because Finn is a good guy, stop making our characters evil just because "edgy"
*Good
@@christhomascb I’m sorry but not edgy to make mistakes he’s Finn the “human” and so as a human who’s a good person even I have made shitty mistakes in relationships and with family but I’ve grown a lot and never wanna do that shit again and same for Finn he realized his mistakes and by the end of the series he’s had a completely different mindset it’s called personal growth not being “edgy”
I remember how I hated that she chose Cinnamon bun over Finn. (My mind at the time say it as Flame princess choosing Cinnamon bun romantically) When I re-watched it I understood why.
I don't think Cinnamon bun and Flame Princess are a thing, their relationship is honestly closer to platonic love than romantic love
As a dumb kid watching the show, I had the same thought. Glad they aren't dating.
i remember that even after the breakup i still liked flame princess as a character until the thing with cinnamon bun happened
I was seriously worried about that CB x FP thing because it was stated that CB is in his 40s
@@ValenArtsAnimation
Bro im pretty sure Fp is 16 meanwhile cinnamon bun is like 30 or something
that was absolutely fantastic. i remember them being my favorite ship as a kid (alongside zuko and mai), but i never actually knew they broke up. episodes just played out of order on tv. everything in the video made so much sense, and it was a great analysis of their relationship and their character developments.
I think that this whole arc was a great example of showing that finn is still a teenager. he is a young man that makes stupid mistakes. selfish mistakes that he doesn't realize until they *literally* blow up in his face. I think it was great that this was shown. I love her character arc after their break up. her triumphs and conflict with pb was great and is a well rounded character in my favourite tv show. :)
The interesting thing with Ice King is that even though Finn also manipulated him.
Using Simons personal stuff against him.
The Ice King does not exhibit betrayal. Because clearly he is in no position to demand the same intellectual honesty that Finn owes his Novia.
But Simon dose reprimand Finn because he should know better than this.
Especially since Finn has reprimanded the
Ice King (in far more violent ways) for similar reasons.
Almost like some drunken uncle (Not a beacon of morality. But still an older person who knows that you should know better. At least better than them)
Simon just says with great disappointment and the slightest bit sympathy “You blew it man”. As if he was echoing something he says to himself.
Haha simon says...
@@DiamondsRexpensive oh no that meme again
Here, I do appreciate how, as far as side characters and potential or ex-love interests go, most everyone was allowed to stay and change for themselves instead of get thrown away once they've been kicked out of a love triangle or stopped being somebody's first crush.
Honestly this relationship was beautiful and so realistic. I appreciate it more everyday.
I love this show so much, because I felt like Finn and I had a lot in common. Especially when it came to romance. The story of Finn and FP are very similar to a relationship I had fail. Sincere, naive, girl who was also immature, accepted me with my quirks but I couldn't get close to her in my own way (like how Finn and FP can't touch). Too much felt similar and I always feel this melancholy wash over me whan I see this part of the series. It's my story, in a different format. I love this show.
Remember when finn's mom saw his memories and said "you dated a ball of fire" do you think she saw that dream?
oh god I remember finn blushed so hard when she said that, maybe he showed her more than he meant to
I swear rewatching the show as an adult is like getting hit with the reality stick. Everything hits just so much more harder when you are able to properly comprehend the messages certain episodes are trying to tell you. Awesome video man!
Same
15:27 "You blew it man..."
You know the protagonist fucked up badly when even Ice King is like "Not cool bro", and we side with him
I feel like I saw their relationship more as a nice friendship. They were an okay couple, but I think it would’ve been better if they just had a wholesome friendship.
My only real issue with how the show treated Finn's break-up with Flame Princess is that it was not even entirely Finn's fault. The reason he wrote the letters is because Jake said it was SUPER important for him to see the Cosmic Owl again. And this could've at least worked if they ADDRESSED this fact. The fact that Jake played a part in ruining a perfectly happy and healthy relationship with his superstitious bullshit about the Cosmic Owl. But no, they never put any of the fault on Jake. While there is the scene of FP seeing Finn as a manbaby trying to explain himself, that's only one side of the issue. Finn poorly explaining his terribly thought-out plan and selfishness doesn't address Jake's fault in it. Not once Jake try and share to blame with Finn for basically fear-mongering him into believing he NEEDED to make Flame Princess and Ice King fight, Finn's personal pleasure in it was only one side of the issue. It's just 'oops, Finn was stupid goodbye happy relationship.'
I would've rather they stuck completely to it just being Finn who really wanted to get off. But the Ice King dream could've easily been a way for him to see that the moment he manipulated FP, he didn't get what he wanted and learn from that one mistake before it got out of hand.
But no, no reflection on that or the possibility that Finn stops before he goes to far. Jake serves as the final push to do something hurtful to FP and it's all just 100% Finn's fault.
I’m sure jake didn’t mean for that to happen
I noticed that in the episode too, little me was really mad that Jake, and maybe the Cosmic Owl, got away with it
Part of growing up is not making excuses for your behavior. Finn didn't have to do what Jake or anyone told him, he was old enough to know better.
@@WobblesandBean At the time Finn was still under the belief that Jake was his wise older brother who would never lead him down the wrong path. Also, when a literal god is pushing you to do it, it's harder to not think that you're making the right choice.
Bro it finn relationship not Jake's, he can choose to do whatever. Trying to put some blame on Jake for his bad advice would just look worse.
With that said, Finn still abused TWO people. By this point in the show, Finn knows about Ice King's backstory...yet he does this? If anything, I'm surprised Simon just stuck around with him even after all of that. If anything, he should feel sorry for FP, yet...yeah.
I feel like everyone who doesn't own him would have kicked him out. Finn and Jack only let him stay because it's on them he is homeless and even they weren't very happy about it .
With all the drama of the relationship I completely forgot about IK.. yikes.
That would of been an interesting conversation with normal Simon (if he even remembered this) and Finn.
@@joutakujo9773 I doubt he does. Simon probably doesn't remember much from his time as Ice king and Ice king himself has the memory of a golden fish.
To be fair, at that point in the story, Ice King was still on his kidnapping bullshit so I thought it was alright that the show kinda treated him like a comedic punching bag
When you apply real world standards of ethics to high concept fantasy shows for kids, things kinda fall apart somewhat because characters often do horrible things for the sake of a joke
It Was A CANON Event..
Also fate if Fp didn’t break up with her she couldn’t be flame queen it was fate that screwed their relationship
Flame princess is my perfect example of how to do a love interest. Bring in a new character specifically made to be a love interest but is in depth enough to stand on their own. It's part of why bubblegum and marceline doesnt work for me without obsidian.
It really says something about the complexity of relationships (and by proxy the writing) that dating Finn made FP a better person, despite their relationship becoming toxic, but it was because she grew as a person through that relationship that she was able to realize she needed to end the relationship.
15:23 When the Ice King says that you know you did wrong
Yeah he literally kidnaps princesses and he thought that was wrong
The Dunegeon episode was funny. She like "Why do I have to go back to the last rooms to find the Keys". This is literally every dungeon videogame. You get to room three and find the key to door in room 1 and than find the key to room four.
Just got out of an abusive relationship, where I never realized I was the toxic one. This video hits differently after watching this ep ~10yrs ago. Thank you for this video essay.
Oh, man, I love FP, she was such a good character. It was such a blast to see her defy the things that seemed to be so set on stone for her (being evil and all that jazz). I also really like that when they broke up, they managed to stay friends, especially after a bad break up... it's hard to build trust to get back to that point. I like that Finn actually took his time to fully understand what he did wrong, yea he tried to get her back as his gf a few times and it went down badly, but once he got older and more mature, he realized what he did wrong and tried to get her back into his life as a friend bc he really cares about her and that was enough for them both. His quote in the elements mini series examplifies this so well: "FP and I are just friends and I'm really proud of that friendship... getting there took a lot of trust building and emotional growth"
But I hate her, she is very malicious to Ice King
Pfft.
such a *blast*
Honesty the two have the most wholesome friendship after the “Bun Bun” episode.
Finn was never really in a position to learn anything without it being the product of him screwing up. He couldn't exactly ask anyone for help because his closest friends gave bad advice, were exes, or were just too different to relate to. What happened was inevitable and it's important to remember that most of his advice comes from a dog with similar a similar IQ. There was no way he was going to do anything else.
On another note, I don't know how Finn managed to be as ok as he was. Running away from your problems is hard and I could've joined track. (That was a terrible joke and I hate it too.) Psychologically, I must be terribly unhealthy if the first thing I think of when something terrible happens to character is basically "If they kill themselves, I completely understand and don't blame them. It's ok to stop trying because of how hard it would be to start over."
I think Finn is a pretty tragic character. He didn’t really end up super okay. Jake died and Finn couldn’t handle that - could never handle it, and he could never get to a point where he would deal honestly with the people around him about his struggles. We see in Together Again how he can barely even relate to Simon because Finn is a human, yes, but he’s a product of an absolutely insane environment.
17:08 cinamon cool
I feel that their breakup was just the writers bullshitting their way out of it and into the breakup, like it rlly makes no sense in hindsight UuuuU finn gets a dream and so he does dumb stuff because he wants the dream to happen again. Like.. wha? Like if the writers took their time to actually think of a good arc which would end in their breakup, we could've gotten a MUCH better conclusion other than just weird dream feel nice --> do dumb stuff to make dream happen again --> breakup. And for anyone saying it's abuse, no it isn't it's just fin wants weird dream back he wasn't actively enjoying flame princess getting hurt.
You know if Finn was the Ice King he would have just wrote fiction about it.
I agree, Im tired of ppl acting like Finn is the worst being in Ooo in this comment section and not even giving him the benefit of doubt. Finn even tells FP the truth by himself, he didin't have to do that
@@Oga.Impractical exactly he didn't need to do it. Still sad that the writers literally decided to just ret con their relationship out of the show just cuz they "felt like it" instead of actually giving goof reason for Finn and FP to breakup
@@vain9137 Indeed
I loved Finn and Flame Princess relationship arc because it was something we never get in media, seeing a relationship fall apart because of decisions the protagonist makes and for the relationship to stay broken.
At the end of the show, I was still sad the relationship ended how it did, but at the same time I was grateful it happened, because FP's development shot through the roof after that and she's been my favorite character since her debut.
Also, the way Finn was never coddled by the writers when it came to his fuck up? Loved that.
I kinda feel bad for fin as the distant lands special showed us he was kinda alone for a good part of his later life with his hope to meet jake in the after life keeping him going.
@@christophercrafte the writers are man haters when did that not click lol
@@christhomascb Yeahhhh
@@christhomascb lmao, y’all will just say anything these days. The majority of writers on both shows were men and the lead writers/creators were both men too.
@@OopsAllFrench while i 100% disagree with this guy i think this is a dumb argument to make, just cause you're a man doesnt mean you cant hate men.
i just wanted to mention that when you were talking about "kiss and credits" you gave pb and m a pass, which i cant argue with i love them as a couple, but in adventure time: distant lands it goes into their relationship more and really gives it all the depth it needs
10:00 gods yes! the amount of times i've complained about this exact thing sighs
“Stolen fries triggered a family feud, happened.” Surprisingly on the dot with a real life experience that made me do a double take. Didn’t know Adventure Time could be relatable.
Oh wow I didn't realize how the second apology kinda mimics first one. They were both done from Flame Princess's perspective but the first, Finn's words were kind of tuned out and ignored, showing how it didn't matter. For the second it's perfectly clear.
I really loved these two characters, they were my favourite together but I also loved their own personal progress 😭❤
13:28 kill me
I don't even watch Adventure Time, I just like hearing your opinion.
It's a great show. It requires some patience due to its mostly episodic nature but it's phenomenal.
Me neither, i have no idea why I’m here
You should watch it, it’s really good
What sucked bad was that in my country I didn’t see the episode in question where he blew it. This is mostly owed to the fact that for some reason the Philippines feels the need to censor not only lines and segments but also entire episodes.
So you could imagine why I was confused as hell when I watched Fin and FP have a cute relationship, then next week in that Lemongrab episode randomly mentioning that they broke up, he’s going after PB and now Ice King is in their home.
The problem is they did Finn so dirty for no reason. He wasn’t the type of character to do this kind of stuff, and knew better. The writers wanted more drama and had no reason to fumble it so badly making him an abuser for literally no reason
Nah, he was like 15, even if you are the nicest teen on the block, you fuck up big time sometimes
@@rougestarlight4308 Bro I was 15 dating girls and I never once became a literal abuser.
Yeah i agree
@@hauldencottenfield869 say that to all the other 15 yr olds who did
@Boqudaass I love the idea that if you have too much freedom you’ll become an abuser. Wtf happened to make your head go there immediately?
The show just did Finn dirty in the end but that’s just my opinion
yep
The fandom blame after frost & fire
80% - “it was all finn’s fault, he manipulated his gf for his own pleasure and even if he HAD to have the 3rd fight, what he wrote in the letters was too harsh. Plus it never would’ve escalated if he didn’t prompt the 2nd fight”
10% - “it was jake’s fault, he’s the one who told Finn to get them to fight a 3rd time. Also the last time Finn ignored a cosmic owl dream, billy died so you understand why he would panic; Jake got him spooked abt it”
5% - “it was the cosmic owl’s fault, if he just stayed out of finn’s dreams none of this would’ve happened”
3% - “it was ice king’s fault, everything started bc he made fun of Finn and FP for no reason”
2% - “it was flame princess’s fault, she didn’t have to beat up IK and should’ve controlled her temper”
idk man it was crazy
I was one of the Finn x Phoebe shippers who dropped the show when those 2 broke up. And just went straight to the finale becoz its just too long
I don't blame the Cosmic owl. As we saw in his episode it's not up to him in who's dreams he is going too. Yes, he can simply ignore it , but I doubt it's good for the universe.
I feel like drama could've also been avoided if Finn had simply told Flame Princess upfront, "Hey, I think it's hot when you beat people up [pun intended], wanna do it again?" But, I guess he was also like 14-15 and never really had any friends his own age to interact with so someone would probably have to explain that to him.
@@123goldenlily that doesn't sound any better. I mean sure he is honest and everything , but to say to your girlfriend, who has anger issues that she is trying to overcome, that your d@#$ is getting hard by her beating people , won't be very smart .
@@valentinkambushev4968 ah, yeah there is that. I haven't watched the episode in a while (Finn's cringiness makes it difficult lol)
Dangit Finn. You shouldn't have ruined it.
Yeah... They shouldn't have ruined it for the both characters... :
It reminds me Urusei Yatsura, it starts with the protagonist dating his girlfriend and then breaking up a few chapters later, and she remained in the main cast as his friend. I didn't think much of it but it seems pretty rare.
Sarcastic Chorus: No One in the history of animation, has dropped the ball harder then Finn
Mordecai: hold my soda
he flipped, kicked, headbutted, dropped that bag so hard it made me realize rigby ain't so bad😭
After watching this I now realize I need a show with Keith David and Morgan Freeman in it just so I can listen to a conversation between those two majestic voices.
FP isn't evil, she's more like a chaotic neutral
4:57 dang Finn got a hickey
Man, this ship was my favorite already, but seeing how things turned even after it ended? Just makes the ship better, more... Real persay. It makes me love the ship more
Besides who says we can't keep shipping them? We're free to do so
Yup their relationship was a train wreck; but I love how in the end Finn grew as a person and matured greatly in the end. They work really well as a platonic friendship. Flame Princess Phoebe is a great character.
Man back in the day this was my favorite ship. Both of them were young and Finn was Kind of immature a bit but man when he did what he did, it was really the beginning of the turnaround point for Finn’s character. Bro was feening for a relationships with bubblegum. The goodbye for finn and PB was when she went back to being her age after her and finn hung out when she was turned back to around 13 years old.
Finn sometimes was not mature enough to understand peoples feelings. Bro got off literally hurting his girlfriend. And since he was turned on by that he lost sight of her feelings and thought they could be together no matter what but was too immature at the time to understand.
FB is probably my favorite character along with jake. Experiencing the people that hurt her even her Ex finn. She matures so much and knows she’s young. Making her own kingdom and coming into contact with Cinnamon bun who was a joke character but matured because no one else took him seriously was crazy and I love that he became her therapist and best friend. She became a better person and was years ahead of maturity than finn.
Damn right adventure time wasn’t the same but I love that it took such a long time until finn really matured.
this video just made me appreciate the character development of a show i’ve never watched (definitely heard of it before). starting it off with ‘’it was a feeling Miraculous fans aren’t familiar with’’ was salt in the wound. don’t get me started on that show. will definitely watch Adventure Time after this!
This show did relationships better then most actual adult shows lol
I really wished that they did an episode (titled 'Burned Out') where *FP gets turned into a human by a magician* after she accidentally destroyed something very important to them.
FP would feel uncomfortable in a human body but they use this opportunity to do stuff that they've never done before. Afterwards, Finn suggested keeping her new form, but the growing dysphoria of her new body catches up to her and she feels frustrated. However, this triggers a small piece of her flame left behind and is slowly beginning to grow inside her. So the two have to turn her back before she gets consumed by her own flames.
wow this is fanfiction material
You gotta write this. You gotta make this an actual fanfic PLEASE
heart hurting, eye twitching and toe curling knowing this will never happen but its such a fun idea AAAAHH
ooh this is an excellent story idea!
That idea is so weird yet would fit perfectly in the show
Wow. Didn’t expect to come out of this learning more about myself than adventure time.
I made an edit fo finn and the princess, I'd be happy if you saw it th-cam.com/video/1j7mF83Eito/w-d-xo.html
The delivery of this video is actually amazing. I really enjoyed this :)
I think breaking up, ending romantic relationships, helps us grow.
I didn’t love FP bc/ I felt it was the weakest season in the series, I feel like she really only got depth after Finn-maybe being more than “the girlfriend” added character, but also like she got hobbies and really figured out her values.