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Niko DIED in yellow jack with roman entering the blood you saw in yellow jack we trevor secret room nike still alive but dont hit him he will burn death with you because the door lock -:) we people that egressive while roman is dead
When Lester said "he went quiet" i do think he refers to Niko being alive but gave up on the crime life. He definitely considered him as he's very damn good at what he do, and Lester wouldn't even reference him if Niko was dead as they'll be no relevance bringing up a deadman to a serious crime plan.
@@sansogamer4707 i dunno i just dont feel like that senence fits niko tho, he was acualy thinking about that one, then thouth for a bit saying but he went quiet, and knowing he knows michael was in "witness protection" went quiet might mean the same thing
@@jace2802 He said he wasn't getting paid properly, which Tbh the role of Niko wasn't originally meant for Tom Hollack anyways it was meant for Vladimir Mashkov the guy who played Sasha from Behind Enemy Lines (Look him up you'll see proof of what I'm saying as an outfit you see him wearing)
@@Wasp-ce7yr Or better yet (implied at the end of the deathwish ending he got a call from Solomon Richards) that he may have bought into Richards Majestic Production.
"He went quiet" 100% implies he was still alive when Lester last heard of him. He would know if Niko died. Normally "going quiet" means you either got out of the game or otherwise dipped off the radar and went underground anyway. I think Niko is still alive by GTA 5, and based off of his sentiments in GTA 4 I can only assume he left for a quiet life to settle down and avoid the law.
GTA IV was the first game I single handedly beat so I will always have a soft spot for Niko Bellic. Hope his story had a happy epilogue and he settled down and had a little family of his own
Correct. If you recruit Packie in the mission "The Paleto Score" he'll mention the events of the mission "Three Leaf Clover", he will mention how Michael (not the GTA V Michael) died, then he'll that say Derrick is dead (cause of death is not mentioned), he will later mention Niko and will say that he doesn't know if he is dead or alive.
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial Derrick can died during the bank heist mission in GTA 4 as i saw a video about that once, just like other crew members from other GTA games that they can lost most of their crews if going wrong, same with that bank mission in GTA 3 when Claude being the driver for the mafia members and random chances on the whole crew alive or some, or even just one so yeah might be it
Niko moved to LA, got some plastic surgery, and is now racing in illegal street racers, known now as Nikolai, he owns a wrecked looking 69' Camaro, (but never underestimate the wreck). in midnight club LA, I swear so many of the voices are from previous gta games, like the mechanic Karol, sounds like Roman!
*Protagonists Age:* Claude (1971): 21 in SA, 30 in 3, 52 now Tommy (1951): 35 in VC, 72 now CJ (1968): 24 in SA, 55 now Toni (1968): 30 in LCS, 33 in 3, 55 now Vic (1956): 28 in VCS, died age 30 in VC, would've been 67 now Niko (1978): 30 in 4, 45 now Johnny (1974): 34 in TLAD, died age 39 in 5, would've been 49 now Luis (1983): 25 in TBOGT, 40 now Franklin (1988): 25 in 5, 35 now Michael (1965): 48 in 5, 58 now Trevor (1967): 46 in 5, 56 now Edit: Toni was 30 in LCS, not in SA
@@NikeIsEliteBrah Well When Ashley mourns Johnny’s “Corpse” if you decide to shoot Johnny while Ashley is still there. A kill effect thing will pop up on your screen implying he may be alive and have severe brain injury along with it.
It feels like the lesser hard choice between her or Roman. She was important to Niko like a lighouse in a see of inmoralitty, and her family breaks appart, sure, but she leaves anyway in the end, and her family breaks appart anyways. On the other Hand, Roman has been with you from the start, he is Nikos family, and supports Niko no matter what even if he complains about about it. And he is a family man now with a baby on the way. It feels even more hearthbreaking when Roman Dies and Niko promises to take care of the baby. Even in the final mission, Roman will follow you despite him having no logical reason to be there and not being of any real use.
Kate wasn't very important character and not many people cared about her(I mean players), in GTA IV found her anoying and not fleshed out, also she had no inpact on plot for like 95% of time. Niko calling to her before final mission for me was kind of random, because he spent more time with Jacob, Packie even Brucie would be a better choice for this choice, they were also in contact the entire time and had an important part in plot. In my opinion they wanted to make Louise 2.0, but failed, at least Louise while not very importnt after few first missions, she came back in few last missions and the part about her feeling abandoned by Vic really hit hard, we saw much more deeper feelings between these two during story missions(let's be real did anyone was in the mood for friendship activities and dates when story became really interesting). For players who met her only two times like me due to caring much more how everything will end she kind of just appeared like nothing more than just standard girlfriend.
Yeah it feels canon. After all Niko had enough of his cousin's advises and is really the kind of guy to hate and careful around snakes like Dmitri. I see him taking Katie's advise more plausible.
Cj built an empire and is probably the most influential grove street OG. If he was killed during the prime era of grove street families, everyone will know about it. Lamar and Franklin would know about his death and how he died. But since they don’t know, it’s possible that CJ just outlived his influence until people have no idea what he’s up to now. There is still a possibility he might be dead currently, but he was definitely not killed by Toni or anytime in the late 90’s / early 2000’s
My guess is that Sweet is the one who died. The death of Big Smoke and the end of the crack empire seriously wounded the Ballas and Vagos, but didn't destroy them. Sweet must have died (probably killed), and as he was CJ's last link to the hood (the only one who couldn't let it go), the Johnsons who outgrew the hood anyway moved on, as someone would after that. Without the Johnsons, Grove Street Families probably ceased to exist, that's why their former turf is owned now by the Ballas.
@@leventebardossy5962 it’s plausible. The game (GTA5) does mention that most of Grove Street moved on to become wealthy and CEOs. It’s likely the remnants of GSF split up into different families and spread out. But neither Lamar nor Franklin ever mentions any OG being killed, which implies Grove Street split up naturally from time. If Sweet was killed, he most likely was killed after the disintegration of Grove Street
People always forgets that CJ not only is a powerful crime lord, successful bussines man, music producer, mob member (and possibly a boss or next in line for succesion) , transport specialist and certified pilot but also has contacts within the C.I.A or whatever group Torino was working for
I doubt he would have maintained any contact with Toreno after Sweet got released from prison. Everything else, absolutely, but I don’t think CJ would have any connections within the CIA.
About the "ganster" thing from the Spanish version of LCS, it definitely means a mafia type. In Spanish, "gangster" is heavily associated with mafias (and almost exclusively used to refer to mafia guys), unlike in English where "gangster" can be either a mafia guy or a gangbanger. The word for "guy from a street gang" in Spanish would be "pandillero".
Cj can't just die to a regular mob like toni, in gta sa story we can saw cj stealing a jetpack and a jet from two military bases, also CJ has some protection from Triads beacuse he is friend with Woozie and have a stake in his casino
cj faced hundreds of military personells in area 69 (quite an odd name to cover up 51 really) he stole the jett pack and he stole the green goo which noone knows about and fought fighter jetts, Toreno after his final mission to cj says that he's starting to think cj is a double agent to be sarcastic to him, proving how undefeatable he is, he beat the system and all so i dont think he could get killed that quick unless there's an insider help from cj's side
@@FinnManusia i mean the GTA SA Original Storyline, i'm not talking about a version that could be a prologue to the san andreas. And yes, maybe Tony exploded Fort Staunton but that's not a big deal in my opinion.
It was always suggested they survived. The A and B endings are small and simple,but C is climactic. Likewise, C solves all problems while A and B leaves characters under the thumb of corrupt or violent people. GTA always let's players kill the people who controlled them all game, so C is keeping with the theme.
You forgot that in gta online, claude can be seen while making your character when you are choosing from the appearance of the character, it shows Claude's character
Niko is still alive and you can see his life invader page in jimmy's laptob which suggests that after the ending of gta 4 he started working for roman and is in contact with many of his friends
@Eternal Forms I mean, Niko working with Roman at his cab company and living the life in Liberty City seems like the more appropriate and realistic scenario.
@@MASTEROFEVIL yep it's more plausible that Niko would choose Katie's advise than his cousin's. He hated Dmitri. Niko also had enough of his cousin's advises leading to unfortunate events. So yeah Katie dies sadly.
I think the fact you can be a descendant of niko in GTA online means he moved there until the end of he did end. He might just be a random npc you can find. Which would make it difficult to find since there would only be one of him roaming around
Niko utterly giving up makes sense too, depending on which choice you make in the endgame of GTA4 he loses someone of the utmost importance to his life. Making a deal with Dimitri directly results in Roman dying on his wedding day, the only family Niko has left that he could be with. Killing Dimitri results in Pegorino attempting a drive-by shooting on Niko over the blown deal, which results in Kate, the only woman Niko starts to truly love in the game, being killed. every choice he made resulted in someone he cared about being hurt or killed, and revenge always left him feeling empty and cold. he's too strong-willed to become suicidal, so that only leaves starting fresh somewhere else or fading into obscurity as viable options. it makes sense too when you listen to the GTA 5 references to him. Packie was a good friend to him, and describes during one of the GTA 5 heists how he "thinks my boy Niko is probably dead too" or something like. cutting off ties with everyone and disappearing seems like what someone like Niko would do after feeling like he's lost everything important to him and that his existence is literally a danger to the people he has left.
Cutting ties with Niko would also hint at Kate dying. Packie was extremely close to Niko, ironically after Derrick/Francis get killed by Niko but he was highly protective of Kate and being around Niko could’ve reminded him of her. Might explain why he severed that relationship.
It's actually impressive that this fanbase is so eager to know what happened after a game. Normally, you are happy with what you have, think about it for a minute and start another game. Here? You get the most happy and good ending, like in GTA SA, yet you still want to know "what's next?"
Going dark usually implies they're alive but don't want to be associated with crime life anymore. Which for Niko is extremely realistic seeing as he had always had a distaste for it. The assault with a deadly weapon charge on the wanted poster could link with the jacket and bloody footprints, perhaps it was where the charge came from. Nike could've gotten into a bar brawl that he had the upper hand in and possibly stomped on the individual or stepped in their blood. Also. I like to imagine that both Niko and Roman could own the bar together as co-owners. As for the classy part, money.
The poster mentions specifically a shooting at a nightclub in Hove Beach. I believe this is referencing Faustin's club, Perestroika, and you killing him there. Also it's by the LCPD. It's referencing a GTA 4 mission
Actually, Tommy is said to have gotten more and more unstable. In SA, when defending Rosenberg (I have no idea if I remembered that right), he seems to suggest Tommy went the way of Scarface. It's unclear if he's alive, but the power may have got to his head in the end.
@@RexGaming935 Lester references a "crew from the south". This implies he is referencing the bank heist in VC. He says they "all went down". We know Cam and Hilary died during the heists, so we can assume that "went down" means killed as a result of the heist. It's more than likely that the police found Vercetti and the explosives dude he works with and kills both of them. It is actually possible this is how Tommy died. Vercetti and his gang defending his mansion as police close in, and him dying defending himself that day.
Here some string the Forelli Gang they did have a grudge against Tommy for Killing Sonny so Tommy took a flight to liberty city there he made dealings and offering the Forelli a peace so there won't be any bloodshedding Ken went to San Andreas as a lawyer for the gangs he seems more nice and calm always wanted each gang to settle difference of their own that job fits for Ken and jumped a gun on Tenpenny but it back fired due to lack of evidence and Rosenberg have many supporter of the gang that want Tenpenny jailed or in somewhat killed in execution for his corrupted deeds as a Police seems blacky dude all wanted power like Smoke Rosenberg even had things to the Johnson's about gold record and they're allow to do anything even something but CJ backed out on conquest for Grove Street Rosenberg went back to VC just being incharge to be at Vercetti Estate since Tommy have been long gone to Liberty peace broke out Forreli own brother and relative were out for revenge for killing big brother Marco Mike Franco and Giorgio 2 were killed Marco and Mike Franco backed out since he is not interested in taking in on Sonny's Avengement Giorgio somewhat afraid and make a sue to the police and have Tommy arrested and he earned a nickname by the Forelli The Harwood Butcher also Giorgio somewhat unknown fate of what happened he decided to leave the family and making Franco ahead or is he planning to have an assassin to take out Tommy while in prison but there are no way telling of what happened to him he decided to retire of being a gang leader and have his men place to Franco as the new head of the Forelli Tommy sentence for yet again 13 years in prison and Rosenberg did his best to get Tommy out of the prison using whatever in his power proof evidence and yet Tommy's long life story for what his involvement to the Forelli and what they are
You could actually add Packie McReary to the list as he appeared as a random guy robbing a store's owner near one of the blocks where Franklin initially lived with his aunt. In addition, Franklin can also help him and his friend escape the cops which, in return, allows Packie to be put into consideration while doing any following heists starting with the Jewellery Store's
I picked him up as Michael but, since Packy called Michael "kid", I'm guessing Rockstar didn't plan on Packy being encountered by anyone other than Franklin.
@@SanguinaryBlues he says the same thing to Trevor and has a unique dialogue if Trevor sacrifices him to the cannibals. So I don't think they only intended Franklin to help Packie.
Franklin followed Michael's footsteps, but was cautious so he won't make the same mistakes as Michael. Michael producing movies is great to hear. Trevor still being Trevor is fun. 😁
In a call from Ron during one of the DLC missions you find out Trevor abandoned Sandy shores and Trevor Phillips Industries to move to Los Santons and become a lifestyle coach.
There's another hint Trevor is still around. Once you complete the Cayo Perico heist for the first time, a cut scene players where Madrazo opens the files you got for him, and shows him finding and burning a picture of Trevor with his mother. Now, I believe they'd only show that it Madrazo was going to end up trying to kill Trevor, which he couldn't do if Trevor was already dead.
Something to remember is that games before 4 and after Vice City Stories (or GTA III chronologically) take place in their own separate timelines. When you hear things in GTA V about how Grove Street Families turned out, that is because this is a universe where CJ never existed. The game never happened. Without the protag to stand in their way, the antagonists of the games had free reign. Notice how the Ballas control fucking everything around there for the most part for example. Without CJ bring GSF back to life, they had little competition. I also saw someone mentioned "a crew down south died in a bank robbery" assuming this is referencing the bank of vice city from the Malibu Club missions, it could very well be that without Tommy, they still plan the heist but die in the shootout. Phil also may not be a part of the heist because of Victor not being a thing in universe either.
I just imagine that Niko found peace, I know it might be a lame theory but it just feels the most correct to me and for that sort of character. I don't imagine him necessarily being happy, but I imagine him not having to be worried.
I'm convinced CJ survived and went on to become a successful businessman, particularly since he was involved with a lot of popular/powerful people by the end of San Andreas. And due to little Easter eggs like that poster of CJ in GTA IV. Can't say the same for his brother who seemed determined to stay and protect Grove Street. If the Grove Street Families were driven out by a resurgent Ballas, then Sweet probably died or gave up and moved out. Tommy Vercetti's probably alive and doing well. There's definitely not enough evidence to suggest he's dead or on the run. I think Niko Bellic is probably living somewhere quietly, probably under an assumed name like in Breaking Bad with that one specialist that helps criminals start over. Claude is probably still alive and doing well, staying under the radar, talented men like him are hard to kill. Though it's not impossible for him to have died like the unlucky Johnny Klebitz. He's probably still a drifter, maybe doing work similar to the film Baby Driver.
@@colereese3315he was 45 when gta v happened GTA V takes place in 2013 And CJ was born in 1968 Making him 55 year old since CJ is probably rich he can probably live for long time
If i recall, trevor is still got his coloured hair, not too old, but one thing i do notice, the Trevor Phillips industries collapsed after a bust of drug deal, for the series A heist. So he is fine and great at terrorising just like the players, but also wanted by the government on a red notice.
For Niko, it's worth mentioning that the GTA Online protagonist can have a man named Niko who looks very similar to Niko Bellic as their father, adding further credibility to the idea that Niko moved to Los Santos after the events of GTA 4.
Isn't this also possible in RDR O? I'd consider characters appearing in the character creation screen more of an gimmick, not actual lore. It's not like they went around banging and impregnating hundreds of women in the San Andreas Area to give birth to the GTA:O Player Characters, that would be kind of wacky and NSFW of a story xD
@@MagiconIce Despite the fact that various GTA:O player characters can interact, the game's story treats each player character like the only one. The narrative never acknowledges the existence of other mute CEOs doing all of the things you do, and several of the missions every GTA:O player can do are missions it doesn't make sense for several people to have done. From the overarching narrative's perspective, there is only one GTA:O player character whose appearance and parentage aren't set in stone. That said, the fact that Niko Bellic is a possible father of the GTA:O protagonist implies that he is present in Los Santos, whether the GTA:O protagonist is his child or not.
@@luckyc4t110 Cant you also select John Marston as a potential parent, meaning that a 120+ year old man has links to GTA O? So I doubt the parentage has any canon link to characters is found in the character creator.
@@luckyc4t110the parent thing seems to be more of a fun thing than actual substantiated lore. Assuming Gta 4 takes place in the Later 2000-2010 date it’s highly unlikely Niko can father an online character that looks no less than 20 years old. John Marston is there so it sort of makes things more unsupported
Fun fact: if u saw Niko's poster next to a card and look closer to the card it's Ray Machowski next to Niko's poster and everyone didn't notice Ray Machowski in the poker card Hope this helps:)
Unless this was already done, Vice City is basically a huge reference to the movie Scarface so if we're to take that at face value, that means that Tommy did die and that's probably why he doesn't answer the phone when Ken called because he physically can't.
I always thought it was because of Kent's drug abuse. Tommy probably took up a political position in Vice City and can't be seen associating with a crack head lawyer so he sent him away.
Tommy doesn't answer because he refuses to answer or speak to Ken since he's the reason Ken was in San Andreas in the first place. He sent him there to force Ken into rehab since his cocaine addiction got out of hand and Tommy saw him as a massive liability to his business and Ken mentions him during the Sindacco shootout in the meat-factory so he's very much still alive.
Niko Bellic is perhaps the best character that has every come out of Rockstar Studios. I am replaying GTA IV now, and I am so amazed by how good that game is holding up
9:15 if Niko was dead, I don't think Lester would mention him in the first place. After all, knowing if a scumbag is dead or alive would be the first thing to consider when bringing them up. More chances he just got out of it.
When i looked at the thumbnail i thought this was some common clickbait video but it turns out its actually decent and actually makes sense in its logic, keep it up man
Here’s all the characters Gta 1: possibly retired or dead Gta London: in a retirement home/dead Claude speed: dead Claude: either married with Maria or wanted in lc Tommy: retired and settle down in vice city and probably met a woman and got married whilst Ken probably died due to overdose Cj: after the war between families and ballas sweet made peace and gave the ballas grove and cj became a ceo then probably moved someone whilst sweet lied low in probably either vinewood or chamberlain hills bonus Kendal and cesar got married and moved to Canada or Mexico maybe Mike: moved to Colombia met a girl got married Toni: after Salvatore died joey took over as leader and Toni continued on or the leones fell and they all went separate and Toni settled down someone and probably moved into his ma house after she died Vic: dead Niko: deal ending after Roman died niko got depressed and unfortunately killed himself or him and Mallorie got together but niko still has guilt of Roman on him revenge ending: Roman and Mallorie had there child and niko quit the crime world and never dated anyone again after Kate Johnny: left the lost but got back with Ashley did drugs went back to the lost then moved to los santos then became enemies with your character and secretly Trevor then died Luis: stayed in lc and met someone and continued to run the club Huang: moved back to His hometown and met someone special and lived his life Franklin: after Tanisha and the doctor got married Franklin started to look for other people then maybe 2017 they broke up and Franklin and Tanisha got back and had kids then in 2021 opened a business and got in contact with your character Michael: continued to make movies and lived happily with Amanda and Jimmy found his own house and Tracey probably moved away Trevor: opened a drug guru business and continued on with his life Your character: this is just what I think would happen if online ends they take out the main villain and retire from the crime world of los santos and settle down with friends and continued to be feared by many and befriend the bad Bonus ending a ron left Blaine county meaning smugglers run wouldn’t have happened also wade probably died due to drugs or depression Michael and Amanda’s relationship is good but she gets suspicious or Trevor’s disappearance Lamar wouldn’t have made LD organics cause he was wanted by the ballas Franklin probably still opened his business with your character so not much Ending b Amanda probably goes back to stripping or dies Tracey becomes a pornstar Jimmy gets back into pot and doesn’t take the arcade job Trevor becomes enemies with Franklin Franklin becomes more and more guilty over Michaels death and doesn’t open up the business Lamar dies due to a drive by so like the Beverly Johnson death and Ron and Trevor would have stayed together and strugglers run doesn’t happen also the casino wouldn’t happened cause wei Cheng is still alive which means cayo perico and LS tuners wouldn’t happen and your characters story would end after arena war or LS summer special who knows
@@boldandbrash259 Yeah you are right sweet never will gave Grove up. Because in the last cutscene you can see Kendl asking sweet to come to San fierro or Las Venturas. However he refuses.
The tube of CJs Toothpaste is not a reference to Carl Johnson, it's a reference/nod to Campbell-John Dick, who is a interior and prop designer at Rockstar North Studios who worked on GTA V.
@@daevonthesavage7483 that's fine because gta vice city came out first and they didn't have any plans for vice city stories at the time. Johnny on the other hand died *after* his DLC already came out
Idk if you played The Lost and Damned but Johnny is a not of wasteful character he broke into jail to kill someone . I don't remember the exactly the mission was called maybe get Get lost was the mission name and you kill the guy in prison . GTA characters done crazy missions but for him to be killed by a new character we never even heard of until GTA 5 . Also it really sucked that they made him a drug addict or something seen in GTA 5 . Johnny is a better character than Trevor in my eyes I thought personally Trevor wasn't bad ass at all .
@@roberthernandez8231 What's not to love about a Psychotic, Drug-addicted Canadian Pilot who has the uncanny ability to go into a berserker rage and just fuck everything and everyone up that crosses him.
I believe CJ became a Multimillionaire business man with multiple business (Casino and Records Label owner mainly), well, he rose GSF up from the ashes, twice, in a single year: 1992 (considering the Riots were in May, he did it IN MONTHS) and Toreno cleaned his heat with Military and Mafia after some favors and/or bribes
Plus it is my theory that when Franklin says they're dead or CEOs, the dead person would be Sweet, the only one invested in the hood, after his passing CJ would just leave Grove Street behind, leaving it open for Ballas to take over.
@@victorf6672 Franklin saying they're dead is probably a reference to smoke and ryder while both sweet and cj became bigger and richer while bringing the rest of the family along cause he did say it in a plural tense.
Honestly it’s the sweetest thing ever to see FMT having great lives and as they said in the canon ending, reamian friends and dont do criminal lifes anymore
Yeah he is alive But since they didn't connect the 3D verse and the HD verse It's complicate But i heard that the definitive édition may have got connected to the HD universe
@@spiderman4538 i never said that it was different in term of story telling The references and eater eggs that Rockstar put in the games got updated This is why many people are saying that it may have gotten connected to the HD verse now
I think it's pretty obvious that Niko went back to his home country. There's the story of the bar fight with the bloody shoes. Then there's a wanted poster of Niko for assault with a deadly weapon. Lester also said the "Eastern European" went quiet. Combine that with Niko coming to America for revenge for betrayal in the Serbian war and the false promises of Roman, there was no reason for Niko to stay in America. He probably went back home to take care of his mother.
Isn't his mother dead by the events of the GTA4? IIRC, every time he mentions her, it's in the past tense. It's possible he went back home or into hiding after getting into a fight and assaulting/killing the guy.
At 3:50 the billboard says fruntalot For the "concrete jungle " = CJ ...I don't think coincidence seems like they were letting us know he went the business route since he was business savey.
In GTA 5, these are the answers: 1. Franklin - still alive, manager of Franklin & Co. Seen on every contract dlc. Can be played if you played as him during short trips 2. Michael - still alive, producer along with Solomon. Didn't appear in any DLC except story mode 3. Trevor - still alive, the boss of TPI, laying low after being hunted by the feds. Seen in some Dr*gging missions. Also last seen in his final heist, crying near the shore with a wound in his forehead. Cannot be played online
RIP to Ray Liotta people :( still hurt from that I think Brucie,Packie and a few other of Niko's friends would know because they are in the game even Agent Karen "Michelle" Daniels
when Lester mentioned him in the story i was thinking that he was referring to my online character but your story makes more sense i only finished gta 3 and 5 was thinking about at least watching the other stories to stay connected at last but not least very good job man the video is amazing
Yeah, based on the fact Toni likely killed a made man and that's why he went in hiding and other hints based on the direction Kendl was taking them, my theory is something happened to Sweet or he passed away. Afterward, without Sweet, CJ ultimately went in the direction Sweet kept chewing him out about and went straight, or as straight as CJ can be. He was Madd Dogg's manager now after all, as well as a casino owner, car place owner, and made money in a few other ways. Why stick around the hood with his brother gone? I strongly believe that while he did feel some obligation towards the families, Sweet was his primary anchor and if Sweet were to pass away or be killed, CJ would gradually drift away from his role in the families. I just he was destined to be a Busta, straight Busta.
Well, at least with me, it's because I feel Sweet is what is keeping CJ anchored to the Families. CJ had at least two points in time he absolutely had no interest in going back to the Families: after he left San Andreas and later on after Sweet got out of jail. His mother's death got him back into the game the first time while Sweet convinced him to get back into the game the second. Without Sweet, I don't feel CJ's interest would remain with the Families. I still feel Kendl, the casino in Las Venturas, or one of his many other ventures would eventually help sway CJ away in the long run once Sweet was out of the picture.
@@SilverJ17 Or CJ could've convinced Sweet and the rest of the GSF to join in his bigger ventures making them wealthy and CEO's like what Franklin said, cause the hint is too specific.
@@spyrall2210 But on the other hand, Franklin and Lamar are clearly speculating there and didn't R* say at some point, that the 3D-Universe (GTA 3, VC, San Andreas) and the HD Universe (GTA 4 and onward) are supposed to be different universes? So the Grove Street OG's they were talking about don't necessarily are the San Andreas Characters, they just could be some random Grove Street Members, because CJ and his family may have never existed. Also let's not forget the fact that Los Santos and the surrounding area in GTA 5 look radically different than in San Andreas, there are some few landmarks that are identical and updated (e.g. Star Tower = Maze Bank Tower), but not really because they're supposed to represent San Andreas but Los Angeles, the RL counterpart both games were trying to parody. And most characters of the 3D-Universe didn't make it into the HD-Universe and it kind of is understandable, if you have less characters and their story arcs to manage, it makes storywriting a lot easier, since the danger to create inconsistencies is reduced. So if GTA 6, like some speculate, takes place in Vice City and the surrounding area, people should be prepared that Tommy Vercetti may not appear at all in that story and may not even play a role in the past of the HD version of Vice City. Or may only be hinted at. If I were a R* writer with that in mind, I'd write an ending like "There was a guy attempting to become the drug kingpin in the 80's, but some Mafia Hitmen hit him and his lieutenant betrayed him... they later found his corpse in a fountain, shit was messy and the empire fell apart, cops and FIB went hard on the empire and things went back to subtle", as an obvious reference to both Tommy and Tommy being a R*-version of Tony Montana and making a bad alternative version of the GTA: VC ending canon, further solidifiying the split between the 3D and the HD Universe. My theory: Lester obviously becomes older and basically kind of retires with his new girlfriend after the Diamond Casino Heist (since that basically is the best what could happen to him). So R*, assuming that the popular heists will make a return in GTA 6 and GTA 6 Online, needs a new heist architect to take over. Sure, they could go the length to create entirely new characters... or they take Franklin and Paige and/or Imani. Why do I come up with Franklin? What exactly happens to Trevor after the GTA V Main story is unknown except for the fact that canonically he is alive but he definitely is not a good heist planner and architect, atleast not a good one as seen in Series A. But since with his crazy lunacy he is popular, I guess he will return in some role. Michael? He basically is a made man with a legit, high paying job, his family was on a very good way coming back together and moving on and Michael showed, that he didn't really want to get back into business, he only did the Diamond Heist because this was at the time the only reliable way he knew of making money that worked really well for him and because he needed to, because otherwise probably Madrazzo would have killed him at some point. So unless R* comes up with more lore, Michael probably won't return as an active character in GTA 6 Online, unless maybe later on in some patch somehow connected to making movies and criminal connections with that, like that actor didn't show up, beat his ass or something like that. But Franklin? Franklin was basically starting his serious criminal career by the time he met Michael, he even says as much, when Michael calls him about the Diamond Heist, Franklin said, you gotta start somewhere. And Michael before that said, that Franklin might not make much money with that job, but he surely would learn something and maybe one day, now comes the part, put his own jobs aka. heists together. We haven't seen Franklin doing much in the way of organizing heists so far in GTA 5 Online, but he certainly has the experience, he himself is no hacker but he has hired one with Imani and if needed, he knows another very good one, Paige. And Franklin also stated, also seen in the video, that he just needs the dirty work, he can't stay clean. And finally, with Lester taking Franklin under his wing organizing hits on people to influence massively the stock market, which Franklin continued, he certainly has a good connection to Lester and was basically as much Lester's Student as he was the one of Michael and Trevor and with heists you can influence the stock market pretty well while also making cash.
I personally love gta 4 and papa Niko himself, so I believe that he is still living somewhere because there is a lot of characters from gta 4 some how live got into gta 5 like Patrick Mcreary, Johnny and his girlfriend, and the United Liberty Paper contact, I just hope to see papa Niko again in gta 6.
So, for my "Went Quiet" opinion, I think it's more likely that Lester thought went quiet was anything in comparison to the shit Michael and Franklin pulled with Martin. Plus (Unless i'm remembering wrong) Lester hadn't even heard about Trevor in a while despite what he was doing, so it's likely Niko is likely doing the same or less amount of crime as Trevor. Personally as well, i like the Bar aspect.
I always assumed that the 3D universe and HD universe we're separate meaning that c.j. Tommy and Claude never technically existed in GTA 4 or five's lore. We'd never hear mention of any characters from GTA SA in any of the HD Universe games. Meaning the comment by Franklin and Lamar about "GSF used to live in the hood" and what happened to them doesn't apply to CJ Sweet or any of the other homies.
This video came out before the Drug Wars Update, but there are some things that weren't mentioned even before that update came out. Ron tells us during the intro cutscene to the Air Freight Business that he "went all Vinewood" on him, it seems like they cut ties with each other shortly after his "encounter" with his "mom." When the update finally arrived, Ron and Chef were basically put out of commission and got taken over by Acid manufacturers and their following. It basically confirms that Trevor walked out on them to coincide with Steven Ogg's recent meltdowns about him not wanting to associate with a "cartoon." If that happens to be the case, then Rockstar has been roasting him since Smuggler's run. Now I want to know about what happened to Luis Lopez.
I don’t think that means he survived. In my opinion, it’s just a little Easter egg. I feel like Niko is definitely still alive, I just don’t think the parent option is a clue to that, necessarily.
I highly doubt CJ is dead, he's alive, successful and not in prison. Niko definitely retired, Lester stating "He went quiet" makes more sense that Niko would have stopped making noise in LS. 8:13 That is not Niko's jacket lmaooo
Hey good video, just saying that the jacket in the bar isn't Niko's jacket. They look different, and the one in the bar is actually a repeated model of clothes. Can find it in other places too.
Something left out was that there was a promotion before GTA 5 came out showing Roman Bellic buying a plane ticket to GTA SA, but that said Niko is very likely alive since he has a Life Invader page which appears to be recently updated. Also who the coat rack is a reused model, its almost everywhere. And why the hell would blood last that long? The lady at the bar tells trevor not to cause trouble meaning trevor has killed people there, but at the same time the blood is fresh and she isn't in fear of her life meaning Trevor isn't a threat to the staff otherwise she would be in fear of him. Doesn't really add up, and again The life invader page highlights that Niko is still active in one way or another.
Niko is alive. No reason for Lester to bring him up in a plan if he was not. The "he went quiet" was shade being thrown at the voice actor for quitting. As for the character of Niko, he was always a guy trying to start a new life. He got the answers he wanted and all his plot points were resolved. My guess is that the crime in the wanted poster in GTA5 was his last crime then he went off the grid.
Would love to get a modern GTA game set in Vice City, and have one of the factions you deal with/do missions for/against be The Vercetti Family and Don Vercetti. That'd be badass and a great way to tie-in GTA's past to its present! Plus, Tommy was basically left with EVERYTHING he needed to create his own family without needing to care about the Commission or anyone else for that matter! Really hope Rockstar is willing to do Main-Character tie-ins rather than just let them fade into rumors and legends in the modern games' settings.
@daffedavidsen6306 yes I mean we wanted a modern vice city gta and we're getting it and I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a lot of references to the original vice city games, we might find out what happened to a lot of characters.
people always forget about how with your online character you can set your parents most of them are random but one of them are niko so maybe he moved on from the life of crime to raise his son/daughter
Well this amount of work deserves a like. And I do not give out them easily, I can probably count how many videos on my hands that I have given a like to and I been on youtube since it were using webgl as their video engine.
3:41 the 2nd theory I think Rock Star was keeping open in case CJ’s VA, whose actually related to Franklin’s VA in real life as cousins, would come back for a secret mission or DLC.
for anyone who was kinda confused with some of the scenes Franklin became a business man owning a company while Michael retires and becomes a producer and Trevor lives a normal life
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When Lester said "he went quiet" i do think he refers to Niko being alive but gave up on the crime life. He definitely considered him as he's very damn good at what he do, and Lester wouldn't even reference him if Niko was dead as they'll be no relevance bringing up a deadman to a serious crime plan.
nico was involved with gov agencies, so him quiet could be same quiet Michael supposedly was under
Lester did mention dead guys on that line tho, saying something like "Moses, ironically, met jesus"
@@sansogamer4707 i dunno i just dont feel like that senence fits niko tho, he was acualy thinking about that one, then thouth for a bit saying but he went quiet, and knowing he knows michael was in "witness protection" went quiet might mean the same thing
@@luk4s56 that or he probably just moved somewhere out the country of off the radar
@@sansogamer4707 I think he means Moses ironically found Jesus in away of saying he got saved and following the Christian faith
"He went quiet" was Rockstar Games throwing shade at Niko's voice actor for quitting.
Though his character went to midnight club LA, now known as Nikolai
Why he quit?
@@jace2802 He said he wasn't getting paid properly, which Tbh the role of Niko wasn't originally meant for Tom Hollack anyways it was meant for Vladimir Mashkov the guy who played Sasha from Behind Enemy Lines (Look him up you'll see proof of what I'm saying as an outfit you see him wearing)
@@jace2802 So basically Niko literally went quieter than Snake Eyes off of G.I. Joe.
When did he quit
Franklin is now a ceo and has a nice family
Michael is offically a retired criminal
And Trevor, well Trevor is still Trevor
Nah. Michael is Dead for working with the FIB & killing Brad.
@@shadowtheultimate The canon ending is that he is a movie producer now.
It’s implied in Franklin’s online DLC that Michael is still working on the movie studio
@@Wasp-ce7yr Or better yet (implied at the end of the deathwish ending he got a call from Solomon Richards) that he may have bought into Richards Majestic Production.
@@shadowtheultimate Ever played GTA 5? Dave killed Brad and Devin was already killed.
RIP, Ray Liotta, voice of Tommy Vercetti from GTA: Vice City. 1954-2022.
Born: December 18th, 1954
Died: May 26th, 2022
Aged: 67
Rip
And the dude who played Henry hill in goodfellas
ruv
RIP
May he Rest In Peace
"He went quiet" 100% implies he was still alive when Lester last heard of him. He would know if Niko died. Normally "going quiet" means you either got out of the game or otherwise dipped off the radar and went underground anyway.
I think Niko is still alive by GTA 5, and based off of his sentiments in GTA 4 I can only assume he left for a quiet life to settle down and avoid the law.
It's revealed through hints that Trevor murdered Niko
@@robogreek3157 except its not
@@robogreek3157 " The Source is that i made it the fuck up! " - Senator Armstrong.
@@robogreek3157 why though? That makes no sense lmao
@@LunaticLuni it does lmao
GTA IV was the first game I single handedly beat so I will always have a soft spot for Niko Bellic. Hope his story had a happy epilogue and he settled down and had a little family of his own
And considering Kate's death is the lighter and canon ending, he's probably decently happy with Roman.
@@bambigaming1866 Bruh I really hope he's not happy hanging out with Roman 💀
If I’m not mistaken for the bank heist in GTA V you can recruit Packie from GTA IV and he mentions Niko.
Correct. If you recruit Packie in the mission "The Paleto Score" he'll mention the events of the mission "Three Leaf Clover", he will mention how Michael (not the GTA V Michael) died, then he'll that say Derrick is dead (cause of death is not mentioned), he will later mention Niko and will say that he doesn't know if he is dead or alive.
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial Derrick is a drug addict right? Kinda forgot now...just confirming.
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial but it's not cannon since you can choose between derrick or francis though?
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial Derrick can died during the bank heist mission in GTA 4 as i saw a video about that once, just like other crew members from other GTA games that they can lost most of their crews if going wrong, same with that bank mission in GTA 3 when Claude being the driver for the mafia members and random chances on the whole crew alive or some, or even just one so yeah might be it
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial u can also choose niko l as a father in gta online
I like to think Niko retired and lives the quiet life. He was a likable character.
Kind of
With that wanted poster of Nico in GTA 5 obviously he still in his criminal ways right
He is running a bowling business with Roman
@@dragonslayerornstein2361 In heaven?
Niko moved to LA, got some plastic surgery, and is now racing in illegal street racers, known now as Nikolai, he owns a wrecked looking 69' Camaro, (but never underestimate the wreck). in midnight club LA, I swear so many of the voices are from previous gta games, like the mechanic Karol, sounds like Roman!
*Protagonists Age:*
Claude (1971): 21 in SA, 30 in 3, 52 now
Tommy (1951): 35 in VC, 72 now
CJ (1968): 24 in SA, 55 now
Toni (1968): 30 in LCS, 33 in 3, 55 now
Vic (1956): 28 in VCS, died age 30 in VC, would've been 67 now
Niko (1978): 30 in 4, 45 now
Johnny (1974): 34 in TLAD, died age 39 in 5, would've been 49 now
Luis (1983): 25 in TBOGT, 40 now
Franklin (1988): 25 in 5, 35 now
Michael (1965): 48 in 5, 58 now
Trevor (1967): 46 in 5, 56 now
Edit: Toni was 30 in LCS, not in SA
I wanna see Tommy in GTA VI as a Mafia boss, or at least just a cameo 😭
Crazy to think That Trevor iz younger than Michael...
@@OfficialMondSlyNot in same universe.
You mean Toni is 30 in LCS not SA?
@@longtranthanh8544 oh yes, did not pay attention
Every one knows that every protagonist are linked with our heart so they can't die right?
Unless it’s Johnny Klebitz
@@NikeIsEliteBrah RIP. I kinda liked him ngl, so badass...biker life. That was so cool😔
@@NikeIsEliteBrah and unfortunately one of my top 3, Vic Vance 😔
@@NikeIsEliteBrah God forgives. The Lost don't.
@@NikeIsEliteBrah Well When Ashley mourns Johnny’s “Corpse” if you decide to shoot Johnny while Ashley is still there. A kill effect thing will pop up on your screen implying he may be alive and have severe brain injury along with it.
I like how we all just accept Katie's death as the true ending. No one lays a hand on our annoying yet charming cousin!
It feels like the lesser hard choice between her or Roman. She was important to Niko like a lighouse in a see of inmoralitty, and her family breaks appart, sure, but she leaves anyway in the end, and her family breaks appart anyways. On the other Hand, Roman has been with you from the start, he is Nikos family, and supports Niko no matter what even if he complains about about it. And he is a family man now with a baby on the way. It feels even more hearthbreaking when Roman Dies and Niko promises to take care of the baby. Even in the final mission, Roman will follow you despite him having no logical reason to be there and not being of any real use.
I know right! I really like roman and didn't want him dead even though he's such a [REDACTED] anyway.
Wanna go bowling?
Kate wasn't very important character and not many people cared about her(I mean players), in GTA IV found her anoying and not fleshed out, also she had no inpact on plot for like 95% of time. Niko calling to her before final mission for me was kind of random, because he spent more time with Jacob, Packie even Brucie would be a better choice for this choice, they were also in contact the entire time and had an important part in plot.
In my opinion they wanted to make Louise 2.0, but failed, at least Louise while not very importnt after few first missions, she came back in few last missions and the part about her feeling abandoned by Vic really hit hard, we saw much more deeper feelings between these two during story missions(let's be real did anyone was in the mood for friendship activities and dates when story became really interesting). For players who met her only two times like me due to caring much more how everything will end she kind of just appeared like nothing more than just standard girlfriend.
Also if Roman dies, it will rain in the last mission. If Kate dies it's sunny
Yeah it feels canon. After all Niko had enough of his cousin's advises and is really the kind of guy to hate and careful around snakes like Dmitri. I see him taking Katie's advise more plausible.
Seriously, one of the best (if no THE best) GTA videos I've ever seen!
Cj built an empire and is probably the most influential grove street OG. If he was killed during the prime era of grove street families, everyone will know about it. Lamar and Franklin would know about his death and how he died. But since they don’t know, it’s possible that CJ just outlived his influence until people have no idea what he’s up to now. There is still a possibility he might be dead currently, but he was definitely not killed by Toni or anytime in the late 90’s / early 2000’s
My guess is that Sweet is the one who died. The death of Big Smoke and the end of the crack empire seriously wounded the Ballas and Vagos, but didn't destroy them. Sweet must have died (probably killed), and as he was CJ's last link to the hood (the only one who couldn't let it go), the Johnsons who outgrew the hood anyway moved on, as someone would after that. Without the Johnsons, Grove Street Families probably ceased to exist, that's why their former turf is owned now by the Ballas.
@@leventebardossy5962 it’s plausible. The game (GTA5) does mention that most of Grove Street moved on to become wealthy and CEOs. It’s likely the remnants of GSF split up into different families and spread out. But neither Lamar nor Franklin ever mentions any OG being killed, which implies Grove Street split up naturally from time. If Sweet was killed, he most likely was killed after the disintegration of Grove Street
Isn't GTA San Andreas and GTA 5 on different universe?
@@JohnMkrv Franlink still stay in Los Santos, means the story still continue.
@@JohnMkrv No lol. They all same. All gta series happens in one universe lol🤣
People always forgets that CJ not only is a powerful crime lord, successful bussines man, music producer, mob member (and possibly a boss or next in line for succesion) , transport specialist and certified pilot but also has contacts within the C.I.A or whatever group Torino was working for
I doubt he would have maintained any contact with Toreno after Sweet got released from prison. Everything else, absolutely, but I don’t think CJ would have any connections within the CIA.
@@dylanhitchcock6574 im sure torino would have more use for CJ
Maybe Cj became a CIA hidden spy for Toreno to give orders to or maybe Toreno got Cj wacked cuz of loose ends
CJ is basically the Jack of all trades 💯
And most importantly a master of cheat codes😂
About the "ganster" thing from the Spanish version of LCS, it definitely means a mafia type. In Spanish, "gangster" is heavily associated with mafias (and almost exclusively used to refer to mafia guys), unlike in English where "gangster" can be either a mafia guy or a gangbanger. The word for "guy from a street gang" in Spanish would be "pandillero".
Cj can't just die to a regular mob like toni, in gta sa story we can saw cj stealing a jetpack and a jet from two military bases, also CJ has some protection from Triads beacuse he is friend with Woozie and have a stake in his casino
"Regular Mob". He is also an Italian mob that responsible for 1K+ people died. Also, there is GTA SA Story?!? I know GTA LCS and VCS exist.
@@FinnManusia he probably meant story of GTA SA
Ah yes... a regular mob who killed thousand of innocence people
cj faced hundreds of military personells in area 69 (quite an odd name to cover up 51 really) he stole the jett pack and he stole the green goo which noone knows about and fought fighter jetts, Toreno after his final mission to cj says that he's starting to think cj is a double agent to be sarcastic to him, proving how undefeatable he is, he beat the system and all so i dont think he could get killed that quick unless there's an insider help from cj's side
@@FinnManusia i mean the GTA SA Original Storyline, i'm not talking about a version that could be a prologue to the san andreas. And yes, maybe Tony exploded Fort Staunton but that's not a big deal in my opinion.
10:24 so it's confirmed that the deaths of Michael and Trevor are non-canon endings which puts Deathwish as the canon ending of GTA V 🤘
That's been confirmed years ago
Don't you mean, "Micahel"? :)
It was always suggested they survived. The A and B endings are small and simple,but C is climactic. Likewise, C solves all problems while A and B leaves characters under the thumb of corrupt or violent people.
GTA always let's players kill the people who controlled them all game, so C is keeping with the theme.
Deathwish is the canon ending
@@drkstrwilliams8612 Michael, with one L.
6:44 the slow head turn is horrifyingly hilarious, Claude is still scary looking.
You forgot that in gta online, claude can be seen while making your character when you are choosing from the appearance of the character, it shows Claude's character
Not the same character
Niko too
Minimal age that your character has to be is I believe 18, so that would mean 1995 or less
@@Hail2TheBOOMstick agreed
Wait actually??
Niko is still alive and you can see his life invader page in jimmy's laptob which suggests that after the ending of gta 4 he started working for roman and is in contact with many of his friends
So the canon ending is his wife dies?
@Eternal Forms I mean, Niko working with Roman at his cab company and living the life in Liberty City seems like the more appropriate and realistic scenario.
@@MASTEROFEVIL yep it's more plausible that Niko would choose Katie's advise than his cousin's. He hated Dmitri. Niko also had enough of his cousin's advises leading to unfortunate events. So yeah Katie dies sadly.
Atleast all the rats in Liberty City was gone after the ending of GTAIV
@Eternal Forms Thats not correct.
Canon ending is Roman's death, you can even look it up.
I think the fact you can be a descendant of niko in GTA online means he moved there until the end of he did end. He might just be a random npc you can find. Which would make it difficult to find since there would only be one of him roaming around
The end of the video: “so, all GTA characters are alive and well!”
Me: *softly* Johnny…
He lives on, as a piece of brain on the bottom of Trevor’s boot.
@@tellysharpe8255 there's some piece of Johnny's brain on Trevor's boots.......
Johnny's a done deal and so is his lost leather club
@@TheSultan1470 JeeeeEEEEZOZ
@@AetherSphere "JESUS!" -Franklin "OH MY GOD!" -Michael "OHHH, JESUS!" -Trevor
Niko ain't dead, he's just went to bowling
Might as well be dead
A fate worse then death. Bowling with Roman Bellic
he went quiet to serbia to live a good life with his hard earned cash
Fnuuy
With Roman of course
Niko utterly giving up makes sense too, depending on which choice you make in the endgame of GTA4 he loses someone of the utmost importance to his life. Making a deal with Dimitri directly results in Roman dying on his wedding day, the only family Niko has left that he could be with. Killing Dimitri results in Pegorino attempting a drive-by shooting on Niko over the blown deal, which results in Kate, the only woman Niko starts to truly love in the game, being killed. every choice he made resulted in someone he cared about being hurt or killed, and revenge always left him feeling empty and cold. he's too strong-willed to become suicidal, so that only leaves starting fresh somewhere else or fading into obscurity as viable options. it makes sense too when you listen to the GTA 5 references to him. Packie was a good friend to him, and describes during one of the GTA 5 heists how he "thinks my boy Niko is probably dead too" or something like. cutting off ties with everyone and disappearing seems like what someone like Niko would do after feeling like he's lost everything important to him and that his existence is literally a danger to the people he has left.
Cutting ties with Niko would also hint at Kate dying. Packie was extremely close to Niko, ironically after Derrick/Francis get killed by Niko but he was highly protective of Kate and being around Niko could’ve reminded him of her. Might explain why he severed that relationship.
It's actually impressive that this fanbase is so eager to know what happened after a game. Normally, you are happy with what you have, think about it for a minute and start another game. Here? You get the most happy and good ending, like in GTA SA, yet you still want to know "what's next?"
San andreas 2
@@Hebrew-Nation1 electric boogaloo
A game that makes you think about it even after it ends is a good game.
Well, the main characters lived the life of crime so we will be curious if someone got to their ass when we ain't controlling them.
I mean, this franchise is old... People bound to miss their favourite game from the franchise.
Going dark usually implies they're alive but don't want to be associated with crime life anymore. Which for Niko is extremely realistic seeing as he had always had a distaste for it.
The assault with a deadly weapon charge on the wanted poster could link with the jacket and bloody footprints, perhaps it was where the charge came from. Nike could've gotten into a bar brawl that he had the upper hand in and possibly stomped on the individual or stepped in their blood.
Also. I like to imagine that both Niko and Roman could own the bar together as co-owners. As for the classy part, money.
the lifestyle is classy not the bar
The poster mentions specifically a shooting at a nightclub in Hove Beach. I believe this is referencing Faustin's club, Perestroika, and you killing him there. Also it's by the LCPD. It's referencing a GTA 4 mission
@@finemernop7201 Ah aight then. Idk then
The main issue I have with your CJ theory is that the GTA IV and V universe are in the HD universe while CJ exists in the 3D universe.
Actually, Tommy is said to have gotten more and more unstable. In SA, when defending Rosenberg (I have no idea if I remembered that right), he seems to suggest Tommy went the way of Scarface. It's unclear if he's alive, but the power may have got to his head in the end.
Ken was also kicked out by Tommy for being a cokehead. It's just ad likely Ken is saying that out of petty anger
Rosenberg got booted to a clinic after he had a major episode of coke induced hysteria. By the time he got out, Tommy had given him up.
My headcannon is now Tommy died in a raid on his mansion in a similar way Scarface did.
@@RexGaming935 Lester references a "crew from the south". This implies he is referencing the bank heist in VC. He says they "all went down". We know Cam and Hilary died during the heists, so we can assume that "went down" means killed as a result of the heist. It's more than likely that the police found Vercetti and the explosives dude he works with and kills both of them. It is actually possible this is how Tommy died. Vercetti and his gang defending his mansion as police close in, and him dying defending himself that day.
Here some string the Forelli Gang they did have a grudge against Tommy for Killing Sonny so Tommy took a flight to liberty city there he made dealings and offering the Forelli a peace so there won't be any bloodshedding Ken went to San Andreas as a lawyer for the gangs he seems more nice and calm always wanted each gang to settle difference of their own that job fits for Ken and jumped a gun on Tenpenny but it back fired due to lack of evidence and Rosenberg have many supporter of the gang that want Tenpenny jailed or in somewhat killed in execution for his corrupted deeds as a Police seems blacky dude all wanted power like Smoke Rosenberg even had things to the Johnson's about gold record and they're allow to do anything even something but CJ backed out on conquest for Grove Street Rosenberg went back to VC just being incharge to be at Vercetti Estate since Tommy have been long gone to Liberty peace broke out Forreli own brother and relative were out for revenge for killing big brother Marco Mike Franco and Giorgio 2 were killed Marco and Mike Franco backed out since he is not interested in taking in on Sonny's Avengement Giorgio somewhat afraid and make a sue to the police and have Tommy arrested and he earned a nickname by the Forelli The Harwood Butcher also Giorgio somewhat unknown fate of what happened he decided to leave the family and making Franco ahead or is he planning to have an assassin to take out Tommy while in prison but there are no way telling of what happened to him he decided to retire of being a gang leader and have his men place to Franco as the new head of the Forelli Tommy sentence for yet again 13 years in prison and Rosenberg did his best to get Tommy out of the prison using whatever in his power proof evidence and yet Tommy's long life story for what his involvement to the Forelli and what they are
You could actually add Packie McReary to the list as he appeared as a random guy robbing a store's owner near one of the blocks where Franklin initially lived with his aunt. In addition, Franklin can also help him and his friend escape the cops which, in return, allows Packie to be put into consideration while doing any following heists starting with the Jewellery Store's
Oh he is also in Online...
I picked him up as Michael but, since Packy called Michael "kid", I'm guessing Rockstar didn't plan on Packy being encountered by anyone other than Franklin.
@@SanguinaryBlues he says the same thing to Trevor and has a unique dialogue if Trevor sacrifices him to the cannibals. So I don't think they only intended Franklin to help Packie.
I love how the video ends with Trevor just punching some random dude and it cuts off 11:18
XD
Lol. Made me laugh too...
Giving the involvement of FIB, Niko could be in witness protection or he could still be doing stuff for them givin his background.
Witness Protection for what?!
@@notyourbusiness1352 NO ONE WAS CONVICTED OF ANYTHING-
@@WeissIsBae14 please no niko literally had an iaa girlfriend
nah hes just dead
@@rajanand926 which funnily enough can be seen in a mission of the main storyline
This was really well-made. Kept me watching till the end. The music, the clip references and even the captions. All perfect. Well done
Imagine if Niko appeared in VI for a mission or an arc...that would be insane!
Unlikely, His actor had beef with Rockstar after gta 4 came out
Franklin followed Michael's footsteps, but was cautious so he won't make the same mistakes as Michael.
Michael producing movies is great to hear.
Trevor still being Trevor is fun. 😁
In a call from Ron during one of the DLC missions you find out Trevor abandoned Sandy shores and Trevor Phillips Industries to move to Los Santons and become a lifestyle coach.
There's another hint Trevor is still around. Once you complete the Cayo Perico heist for the first time, a cut scene players where Madrazo opens the files you got for him, and shows him finding and burning a picture of Trevor with his mother.
Now, I believe they'd only show that it Madrazo was going to end up trying to kill Trevor, which he couldn't do if Trevor was already dead.
Guess he's still holding that grudge.
You can actually see Trevor on GTAO missions??
@@indigo3032 Yeah, Trevor yelled at me in a cutscene.
That picture is from when trevor lived with patricia
Also he's alive,HES THE GUY WHO STARTED THE SERIES A HEISTS
@@likeablelabradoodle4035 He literally gives you basic missions.
Something to remember is that games before 4 and after Vice City Stories (or GTA III chronologically) take place in their own separate timelines. When you hear things in GTA V about how Grove Street Families turned out, that is because this is a universe where CJ never existed. The game never happened. Without the protag to stand in their way, the antagonists of the games had free reign. Notice how the Ballas control fucking everything around there for the most part for example. Without CJ bring GSF back to life, they had little competition. I also saw someone mentioned "a crew down south died in a bank robbery" assuming this is referencing the bank of vice city from the Malibu Club missions, it could very well be that without Tommy, they still plan the heist but die in the shootout. Phil also may not be a part of the heist because of Victor not being a thing in universe either.
Rest in peace Ray, we'll always remember you for such the actor you were!
I just imagine that Niko found peace, I know it might be a lame theory but it just feels the most correct to me and for that sort of character. I don't imagine him necessarily being happy, but I imagine him not having to be worried.
Nope... Trevor killed him
@@robogreek3157 ??how do you know
@@mgb_slaughter8924 it was a video made by the clickbait youtuber MrBossFTW
@@robogreek3157no he didn't lol
Thanks for putting this together
I'm convinced CJ survived and went on to become a successful businessman, particularly since he was involved with a lot of popular/powerful people by the end of San Andreas. And due to little Easter eggs like that poster of CJ in GTA IV. Can't say the same for his brother who seemed determined to stay and protect Grove Street. If the Grove Street Families were driven out by a resurgent Ballas, then Sweet probably died or gave up and moved out.
Tommy Vercetti's probably alive and doing well. There's definitely not enough evidence to suggest he's dead or on the run. I think Niko Bellic is probably living somewhere quietly, probably under an assumed name like in Breaking Bad with that one specialist that helps criminals start over. Claude is probably still alive and doing well, staying under the radar, talented men like him are hard to kill. Though it's not impossible for him to have died like the unlucky Johnny Klebitz. He's probably still a drifter, maybe doing work similar to the film Baby Driver.
Who's to say that CJ, Tommy and Niko didn't die too?
Johnny dies in GTA V .__.
Bro cjs dead
@@colereese3315he was 45 when gta v happened
GTA V takes place in 2013
And CJ was born in 1968
Making him 55 year old
since CJ is probably rich he can probably live for long time
@@colereese3315 rockstar already coffined all characters in all GTA game still alive( expected 2 guy from GTAVCSR and GTA4DLC)
On GTA IV's TV show "I'm Rich", CJ is briefly seen skydiving.
If i recall, trevor is still got his coloured hair, not too old, but one thing i do notice, the Trevor Phillips industries collapsed after a bust of drug deal, for the series A heist. So he is fine and great at terrorising just like the players, but also wanted by the government on a red notice.
I really can’t imagine how much work u had put into this, great work man 👍
For Niko, it's worth mentioning that the GTA Online protagonist can have a man named Niko who looks very similar to Niko Bellic as their father, adding further credibility to the idea that Niko moved to Los Santos after the events of GTA 4.
Isn't this also possible in RDR O? I'd consider characters appearing in the character creation screen more of an gimmick, not actual lore.
It's not like they went around banging and impregnating hundreds of women in the San Andreas Area to give birth to the GTA:O Player Characters, that would be kind of wacky and NSFW of a story xD
@@MagiconIce Despite the fact that various GTA:O player characters can interact, the game's story treats each player character like the only one. The narrative never acknowledges the existence of other mute CEOs doing all of the things you do, and several of the missions every GTA:O player can do are missions it doesn't make sense for several people to have done. From the overarching narrative's perspective, there is only one GTA:O player character whose appearance and parentage aren't set in stone.
That said, the fact that Niko Bellic is a possible father of the GTA:O protagonist implies that he is present in Los Santos, whether the GTA:O protagonist is his child or not.
@@luckyc4t110 Cant you also select John Marston as a potential parent, meaning that a 120+ year old man has links to GTA O? So I doubt the parentage has any canon link to characters is found in the character creator.
@@luckyc4t110the parent thing seems to be more of a fun thing than actual substantiated lore. Assuming Gta 4 takes place in the Later 2000-2010 date it’s highly unlikely Niko can father an online character that looks no less than 20 years old. John Marston is there so it sort of makes things more unsupported
Fun fact: if u saw Niko's poster next to a card and look closer to the card it's Ray Machowski next to Niko's poster and everyone didn't notice Ray Machowski in the poker card
Hope this helps:)
I almost laughed my legs off when I seen Trevor holding up that sign saying "I bet you can't hit me with a quarter" 😂😂😂😂
This video was really well made I was so into it and was just enjoyed the whole thing. Good job dude👍🏻👍🏻
Nice Video! I really hope Rockstar continues implementing old charakters in to the gta online dlc's or even gta 6...
Unless this was already done, Vice City is basically a huge reference to the movie Scarface so if we're to take that at face value, that means that Tommy did die and that's probably why he doesn't answer the phone when Ken called because he physically can't.
tommy would be in his late eighties now
Vice City is Scarface + Miami Vice. But Tony Montana taking over and the mansion...so much being referenced there.
@3rdStreetBoss oh
I always thought it was because of Kent's drug abuse. Tommy probably took up a political position in Vice City and can't be seen associating with a crack head lawyer so he sent him away.
Tommy doesn't answer because he refuses to answer or speak to Ken since he's the reason Ken was in San Andreas in the first place. He sent him there to force Ken into rehab since his cocaine addiction got out of hand and Tommy saw him as a massive liability to his business and Ken mentions him during the Sindacco shootout in the meat-factory so he's very much still alive.
The vibes u made out of this man 😮💨
Niko Bellic is perhaps the best character that has every come out of Rockstar Studios.
I am replaying GTA IV now, and I am so amazed by how good that game is holding up
Thought it was jus me im playin rn this really one of the better gta games even the dlc is fire
GTA 4 is my favorite 😁 I still play it to this day.
9:15 if Niko was dead, I don't think Lester would mention him in the first place.
After all, knowing if a scumbag is dead or alive would be the first thing to consider when bringing them up.
More chances he just got out of it.
Niko is no scumbag..
You're right, mb there
Going quiet means nobody knows what happened... it's revealed Trevor killed niko
Wow, look at the guy who can't make the difference between Niko the serbian and Johnny the *angy* biker
@@robogreek3157 There's no evidence lmao. I think you just have some good old-fashioned Balkan hatred for Niko.
There's also the fact that in GTA online, you can have your father be Claude, but then again, you can also have John Marston as your father too so....
When i looked at the thumbnail i thought this was some common clickbait video but it turns out its actually decent and actually makes sense in its logic, keep it up man
Here’s all the characters
Gta 1: possibly retired or dead
Gta London: in a retirement home/dead
Claude speed: dead
Claude: either married with Maria or wanted in lc
Tommy: retired and settle down in vice city and probably met a woman and got married whilst Ken probably died due to overdose
Cj: after the war between families and ballas sweet made peace and gave the ballas grove and cj became a ceo then probably moved someone whilst sweet lied low in probably either vinewood or chamberlain hills bonus Kendal and cesar got married and moved to Canada or Mexico maybe
Mike: moved to Colombia met a girl got married
Toni: after Salvatore died joey took over as leader and Toni continued on or the leones fell and they all went separate and Toni settled down someone and probably moved into his ma house after she died
Vic: dead
Niko: deal ending after Roman died niko got depressed and unfortunately killed himself or him and Mallorie got together but niko still has guilt of Roman on him revenge ending: Roman and Mallorie had there child and niko quit the crime world and never dated anyone again after Kate
Johnny: left the lost but got back with Ashley did drugs went back to the lost then moved to los santos then became enemies with your character and secretly Trevor then died
Luis: stayed in lc and met someone and continued to run the club
Huang: moved back to His hometown and met someone special and lived his life
Franklin: after Tanisha and the doctor got married Franklin started to look for other people then maybe 2017 they broke up and Franklin and Tanisha got back and had kids then in 2021 opened a business and got in contact with your character
Michael: continued to make movies and lived happily with Amanda and Jimmy found his own house and Tracey probably moved away
Trevor: opened a drug guru business and continued on with his life
Your character: this is just what I think would happen if online ends they take out the main villain and retire from the crime world of los santos and settle down with friends and continued to be feared by many and befriend the bad
Bonus ending a ron left Blaine county meaning smugglers run wouldn’t have happened also wade probably died due to drugs or depression Michael and Amanda’s relationship is good but she gets suspicious or Trevor’s disappearance Lamar wouldn’t have made LD organics cause he was wanted by the ballas Franklin probably still opened his business with your character so not much
Ending b Amanda probably goes back to stripping or dies Tracey becomes a pornstar Jimmy gets back into pot and doesn’t take the arcade job Trevor becomes enemies with Franklin Franklin becomes more and more guilty over Michaels death and doesn’t open up the business Lamar dies due to a drive by so like the Beverly Johnson death and Ron and Trevor would have stayed together and strugglers run doesn’t happen also the casino wouldn’t happened cause wei Cheng is still alive which means cayo perico and LS tuners wouldn’t happen and your characters story would end after arena war or LS summer special who knows
Niko's canon ending is the revenge one actually
Sweet gave the Grove?
That's just like Big Smoke refusing a number 9
Ken died on overdose? On vice city? Bruh ken is on gta sa
@@boldandbrash259 Yeah you are right sweet never will gave Grove up. Because in the last cutscene you can see Kendl asking sweet to come to San fierro or Las Venturas. However he refuses.
Deal ending of GTA IV ain't canon
The tube of CJs Toothpaste is not a reference to Carl Johnson, it's a reference/nod to Campbell-John Dick, who is a interior and prop designer at Rockstar North Studios who worked on GTA V.
ALL GTA Characters are alive but exept johnny and victor. but they are alive in our hearts.
johnny: killed by trevor
victor: died in a drug deal
I blame Rockstar. Vic did not have to die in the beginning of Vice city 2 years after vice city stories.
@@daevonthesavage7483 that's fine because gta vice city came out first and they didn't have any plans for vice city stories at the time. Johnny on the other hand died *after* his DLC already came out
Idk if you played The Lost and Damned but Johnny is a not of wasteful character he broke into jail to kill someone . I don't remember the exactly the mission was called maybe get Get lost was the mission name and you kill the guy in prison . GTA characters done crazy missions but for him to be killed by a new character we never even heard of until GTA 5 . Also it really sucked that they made him a drug addict or something seen in GTA 5 . Johnny is a better character than Trevor in my eyes I thought personally Trevor wasn't bad ass at all .
@@roberthernandez8231 What's not to love about a Psychotic, Drug-addicted Canadian Pilot who has the uncanny ability to go into a berserker rage and just fuck everything and everyone up that crosses him.
@@roberthernandez8231 he killed his clubs president because he was snitching in jail
I believe CJ became a Multimillionaire business man with multiple business (Casino and Records Label owner mainly), well, he rose GSF up from the ashes, twice, in a single year: 1992 (considering the Riots were in May, he did it IN MONTHS) and Toreno cleaned his heat with Military and Mafia after some favors and/or bribes
Plus it is my theory that when Franklin says they're dead or CEOs, the dead person would be Sweet, the only one invested in the hood, after his passing CJ would just leave Grove Street behind, leaving it open for Ballas to take over.
@@victorf6672 Franklin saying they're dead is probably a reference to smoke and ryder while both sweet and cj became bigger and richer while bringing the rest of the family along cause he did say it in a plural tense.
Honestly it’s the sweetest thing ever to see FMT having great lives and as they said in the canon ending, reamian friends and dont do criminal lifes anymore
No CJ can't be dead because in the the GTA wiki fandom it is confirmed that he is very much alive
Yeah he is alive
But since they didn't connect the 3D verse and the HD verse
It's complicate
But i heard that the definitive édition may have got connected to the HD universe
@@spiderman4538 i never said that it was different in term of story telling
The references and eater eggs that Rockstar put in the games got updated
This is why many people are saying that it may have gotten connected to the HD verse now
Dude Just fhought with seweral gangs and the army BY HIMSELF I don't think he would be killed by a random mafia that easy
His voice actor cannot be included anymore since he has beef with rockstar
GTA wiki fandom has too many mistakes to trust it as a 100% correct source tbh
I think it's pretty obvious that Niko went back to his home country. There's the story of the bar fight with the bloody shoes. Then there's a wanted poster of Niko for assault with a deadly weapon. Lester also said the "Eastern European" went quiet. Combine that with Niko coming to America for revenge for betrayal in the Serbian war and the false promises of Roman, there was no reason for Niko to stay in America. He probably went back home to take care of his mother.
Haha, why'd anyone go back to Serbia?
@@TheSultan1470 to take family to America - to country with "opportunity"© Bellic
Isn't his mother dead by the events of the GTA4? IIRC, every time he mentions her, it's in the past tense. It's possible he went back home or into hiding after getting into a fight and assaulting/killing the guy.
@@jeangentry6656
Romans mother is dead. Nico's mother is still alive atleast during the events of GTA IV because she sends Nico emails.
@@sennescholten7278 ah. Thanks for the correction.
At 3:50 the billboard says fruntalot For the "concrete jungle " = CJ ...I don't think coincidence seems like they were letting us know he went the business route since he was business savey.
He could even own one of the strip clubs now
Amazing video, man, thank you!
0:28 I like how Catalina just calls CJ a pig then hangs up
“P I G”
The guy that was talking to cj sounds a lot like lester
Tommy vercetti will live on forever and still alive to me damn i miss him
I'd love to see a Vice City sequel set in the present day with an older Tommy appearing as a family boss.
@@serendipitydoodah21 Kind of impossible without Ray Liotta though.
tbf tommy is probably old as shit now
You forgot to mention that Jimmy can be seen on Niko's LifeInvader page
also Patrick mentions Niko if you pick him in one of the heists
lester would say niko died going quiet means he disappeared off the grid not wanting to be found.
In GTA 5, these are the answers:
1. Franklin - still alive, manager of Franklin & Co. Seen on every contract dlc. Can be played if you played as him during short trips
2. Michael - still alive, producer along with Solomon. Didn't appear in any DLC except story mode
3. Trevor - still alive, the boss of TPI, laying low after being hunted by the feds. Seen in some Dr*gging missions. Also last seen in his final heist, crying near the shore with a wound in his forehead. Cannot be played online
those Trevor missions from online happend before story mode
@@RazvanHardcore But you can still call him, ron is mentioning him
RIP to Ray Liotta people :( still hurt from that
I think Brucie,Packie and a few other of Niko's friends would know because they are in the game even Agent Karen "Michelle" Daniels
when Lester mentioned him in the story i was thinking that he was referring to my online character but your story makes more sense
i only finished gta 3 and 5 was thinking about at least watching the other stories to stay connected
at last but not least very good job man the video is amazing
Yeah, based on the fact Toni likely killed a made man and that's why he went in hiding and other hints based on the direction Kendl was taking them, my theory is something happened to Sweet or he passed away. Afterward, without Sweet, CJ ultimately went in the direction Sweet kept chewing him out about and went straight, or as straight as CJ can be. He was Madd Dogg's manager now after all, as well as a casino owner, car place owner, and made money in a few other ways. Why stick around the hood with his brother gone? I strongly believe that while he did feel some obligation towards the families, Sweet was his primary anchor and if Sweet were to pass away or be killed, CJ would gradually drift away from his role in the families. I just he was destined to be a Busta, straight Busta.
Why is it that every theory has sweet dying lol.
Well, at least with me, it's because I feel Sweet is what is keeping CJ anchored to the Families. CJ had at least two points in time he absolutely had no interest in going back to the Families: after he left San Andreas and later on after Sweet got out of jail. His mother's death got him back into the game the first time while Sweet convinced him to get back into the game the second. Without Sweet, I don't feel CJ's interest would remain with the Families. I still feel Kendl, the casino in Las Venturas, or one of his many other ventures would eventually help sway CJ away in the long run once Sweet was out of the picture.
@@SilverJ17 Or CJ could've convinced Sweet and the rest of the GSF to join in his bigger ventures making them wealthy and CEO's like what Franklin said, cause the hint is too specific.
@@spyrall2210 But on the other hand, Franklin and Lamar are clearly speculating there and didn't R* say at some point, that the 3D-Universe (GTA 3, VC, San Andreas) and the HD Universe (GTA 4 and onward) are supposed to be different universes?
So the Grove Street OG's they were talking about don't necessarily are the San Andreas Characters, they just could be some random Grove Street Members, because CJ and his family may have never existed.
Also let's not forget the fact that Los Santos and the surrounding area in GTA 5 look radically different than in San Andreas, there are some few landmarks that are identical and updated (e.g. Star Tower = Maze Bank Tower), but not really because they're supposed to represent San Andreas but Los Angeles, the RL counterpart both games were trying to parody.
And most characters of the 3D-Universe didn't make it into the HD-Universe and it kind of is understandable, if you have less characters and their story arcs to manage, it makes storywriting a lot easier, since the danger to create inconsistencies is reduced.
So if GTA 6, like some speculate, takes place in Vice City and the surrounding area, people should be prepared that Tommy Vercetti may not appear at all in that story and may not even play a role in the past of the HD version of Vice City. Or may only be hinted at.
If I were a R* writer with that in mind, I'd write an ending like "There was a guy attempting to become the drug kingpin in the 80's, but some Mafia Hitmen hit him and his lieutenant betrayed him... they later found his corpse in a fountain, shit was messy and the empire fell apart, cops and FIB went hard on the empire and things went back to subtle", as an obvious reference to both Tommy and Tommy being a R*-version of Tony Montana and making a bad alternative version of the GTA: VC ending canon, further solidifiying the split between the 3D and the HD Universe.
My theory: Lester obviously becomes older and basically kind of retires with his new girlfriend after the Diamond Casino Heist (since that basically is the best what could happen to him).
So R*, assuming that the popular heists will make a return in GTA 6 and GTA 6 Online, needs a new heist architect to take over.
Sure, they could go the length to create entirely new characters... or they take Franklin and Paige and/or Imani.
Why do I come up with Franklin? What exactly happens to Trevor after the GTA V Main story is unknown except for the fact that canonically he is alive but he definitely is not a good heist planner and architect, atleast not a good one as seen in Series A. But since with his crazy lunacy he is popular, I guess he will return in some role.
Michael? He basically is a made man with a legit, high paying job, his family was on a very good way coming back together and moving on and Michael showed, that he didn't really want to get back into business, he only did the Diamond Heist because this was at the time the only reliable way he knew of making money that worked really well for him and because he needed to, because otherwise probably Madrazzo would have killed him at some point.
So unless R* comes up with more lore, Michael probably won't return as an active character in GTA 6 Online, unless maybe later on in some patch somehow connected to making movies and criminal connections with that, like that actor didn't show up, beat his ass or something like that.
But Franklin? Franklin was basically starting his serious criminal career by the time he met Michael, he even says as much, when Michael calls him about the Diamond Heist, Franklin said, you gotta start somewhere.
And Michael before that said, that Franklin might not make much money with that job, but he surely would learn something and maybe one day, now comes the part, put his own jobs aka. heists together.
We haven't seen Franklin doing much in the way of organizing heists so far in GTA 5 Online, but he certainly has the experience, he himself is no hacker but he has hired one with Imani and if needed, he knows another very good one, Paige.
And Franklin also stated, also seen in the video, that he just needs the dirty work, he can't stay clean.
And finally, with Lester taking Franklin under his wing organizing hits on people to influence massively the stock market, which Franklin continued, he certainly has a good connection to Lester and was basically as much Lester's Student as he was the one of Michael and Trevor and with heists you can influence the stock market pretty well while also making cash.
I would like to see them all again specially niko, his character and whole game was a masterpiece
Toni aint got no balls to kill our GOAT ladies and gentlemen.
Claude Speed is character from GTA2 ,in GTA 3 is just Claude
Exactly
Yep, GTA 2 and GTA III take place in different universes
It's possible that the 3D and HD universe are connected but i'm not sure if 2D and 3D are connected as well
@@MaxerV19 2d and 3d universes ain't connected
I personally love gta 4 and papa Niko himself, so I believe that he is still living somewhere because there is a lot of characters from gta 4 some how live got into gta 5 like Patrick Mcreary, Johnny and his girlfriend, and the United Liberty Paper contact, I just hope to see papa Niko again in gta 6.
that punch at the end was a perfect cut
So, for my "Went Quiet" opinion, I think it's more likely that Lester thought went quiet was anything in comparison to the shit Michael and Franklin pulled with Martin. Plus (Unless i'm remembering wrong) Lester hadn't even heard about Trevor in a while despite what he was doing, so it's likely Niko is likely doing the same or less amount of crime as Trevor. Personally as well, i like the Bar aspect.
I always assumed that the 3D universe and HD universe we're separate meaning that c.j. Tommy and Claude never technically existed in GTA 4 or five's lore. We'd never hear mention of any characters from GTA SA in any of the HD Universe games.
Meaning the comment by Franklin and Lamar about "GSF used to live in the hood" and what happened to them doesn't apply to CJ Sweet or any of the other homies.
according to rockstar, that is indeed the canon, HD and 3D universes are completely separate
In the contract dlc, several characters from the 3d universe, like for instance madd dog and og loc are mentioned by name.
@@DayumJackie people from other universes can exist in other universes. We’ll see in gta 6 if there’s 3 universes
@@yuh9935 but in HD Claude can be your dad
@@ShadeATV most likely just an easter egg
This video came out before the Drug Wars Update, but there are some things that weren't mentioned even before that update came out. Ron tells us during the intro cutscene to the Air Freight Business that he "went all Vinewood" on him, it seems like they cut ties with each other shortly after his "encounter" with his "mom." When the update finally arrived, Ron and Chef were basically put out of commission and got taken over by Acid manufacturers and their following. It basically confirms that Trevor walked out on them to coincide with Steven Ogg's recent meltdowns about him not wanting to associate with a "cartoon." If that happens to be the case, then Rockstar has been roasting him since Smuggler's run. Now I want to know about what happened to Luis Lopez.
nico definitely survived, because in gta online he is depicted as one of the pickable parents.
I don’t think that means he survived. In my opinion, it’s just a little Easter egg. I feel like Niko is definitely still alive, I just don’t think the parent option is a clue to that, necessarily.
The ending for Trevor is truly befitting of him. ♥️💯🤣
Don't know how you can turn into a hobo after getting like 30 million dollars, I know he is insane but he isn't stupid.
@@rock4glory713 He is one richass hobo.
love how Trevor is just Trevor all this time
CJ, my man. I hope he still alive in somewhere and keep going the business.
Niko didn't move to los Santos. He still lives in liberty city with his cousin.
I highly doubt CJ is dead, he's alive, successful and not in prison. Niko definitely retired, Lester stating "He went quiet" makes more sense that Niko would have stopped making noise in LS. 8:13 That is not Niko's jacket lmaooo
Hey good video, just saying that the jacket in the bar isn't Niko's jacket. They look different, and the one in the bar is actually a repeated model of clothes. Can find it in other places too.
Something left out was that there was a promotion before GTA 5 came out showing Roman Bellic buying a plane ticket to GTA SA, but that said Niko is very likely alive since he has a Life Invader page which appears to be recently updated. Also who the coat rack is a reused model, its almost everywhere. And why the hell would blood last that long? The lady at the bar tells trevor not to cause trouble meaning trevor has killed people there, but at the same time the blood is fresh and she isn't in fear of her life meaning Trevor isn't a threat to the staff otherwise she would be in fear of him. Doesn't really add up, and again The life invader page highlights that Niko is still active in one way or another.
Niko is alive. No reason for Lester to bring him up in a plan if he was not. The "he went quiet" was shade being thrown at the voice actor for quitting. As for the character of Niko, he was always a guy trying to start a new life. He got the answers he wanted and all his plot points were resolved. My guess is that the crime in the wanted poster in GTA5 was his last crime then he went off the grid.
4:04 for some reason you can find same toothpaste in gta sa devinitive edition
Actually after GTA SA ends CJ becomes the most richest man on the entire map because this can be seen on a build board in GTA LCS.
Would love to get a modern GTA game set in Vice City, and have one of the factions you deal with/do missions for/against be The Vercetti Family and Don Vercetti. That'd be badass and a great way to tie-in GTA's past to its present! Plus, Tommy was basically left with EVERYTHING he needed to create his own family without needing to care about the Commission or anyone else for that matter! Really hope Rockstar is willing to do Main-Character tie-ins rather than just let them fade into rumors and legends in the modern games' settings.
Vercetti is dead by 2013 anyway but timeline could make sense
Seems like you're getting that Vice City game in 2025!
@@chustarjamesye but in 2020s not in the 80s like vice city
@daffedavidsen6306 yes I mean we wanted a modern vice city gta and we're getting it and I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a lot of references to the original vice city games, we might find out what happened to a lot of characters.
gta 6: say no more
people always forget about how with your online character you can set your parents most of them are random but one of them are niko so maybe he moved on from the life of crime to raise his son/daughter
Well this amount of work deserves a like.
And I do not give out them easily, I can probably count how many videos on my hands that I have given a like to and I been on youtube since it were using webgl as their video engine.
Quite the fascinating video, I like the more laid back style compared to the usually step by step used by these kinds of videos.
2:48 rollercoaster woohoohoh
3:41 the 2nd theory I think Rock Star was keeping open in case CJ’s VA, whose actually related to Franklin’s VA in real life as cousins, would come back for a secret mission or DLC.
The Breaking the Bank at Caligula's mission can be done anytime though. It emerges too earlier than the point of end of the game.
for anyone who was kinda confused with some of the scenes
Franklin became a business man owning a company
while Michael retires and becomes a producer
and Trevor lives a normal life
"normal" life.
@@ProtoPunkBruh I was just about to mention that.
Trevor definitely ain't normal/right.