TMK, Counterpoints, Lindsey Ellis, Jenny Nickels, and hhombre are considered bread tube and while they have their issues like everyone else, are fairly good and not annoying. Content creators that pop up every few months with hours+ long well researched videos tend to have more nuanced takes then streamer rage baiters.
Yeah, their smugness combined with how they preach their morality while breaking it themselves because somehow it’s ok when they do it is absolutely irritating. Glad to see the space stagnate and lose steam in more recent years
if they were fundamentally unlikable they wouldnt gain followers in the first place, tom says that in their videos they seem reasonable, the issue is that behind the camera they are unhinged
This is really common actually. Just look at all the people who support the guy who shot that health insurance CEO. They are supporting lynching and think it's fine for individual citizens to act as judge, jury, and executioner as long as the person lynched is kinda shitty.
@@patrickbateman312 because it’s not necessarily that they’re always wrong (bipartisan issues exist) or that they’re always bad people. Some of them legitimately believe in what they preach in a non-abrasive way. Those people are still breadtubers, but they’re not necessarily stupid, just ignorant. However, the feelings of intellectual/moral superiority that “the worst of them” derive from believing so wholeheartedly that their views are correct is what I believe makes that infamously vocal percentage of them so annoying. They only seem stupid because, in reality, they are usually to willfully ignorant to construct a coherent argument without resorting to playing either the race, capitalism, or privilege/“wypipo bad” cards to support it rather than providing legitimate context and/or supporting arguments.
@@jordishimaSo basically, they had the potential to be good(technically still do), but squander it by being pretentious douchebags that no one wants to listen to.
The problem isn’t being “wrong”, it’s more being “disingenuous”. It shows they don’t actually care about whether they’re right or wrong, which is much worse.
@sushihit2813 no, i was day 5 without sleep and deep into meth fueled psychosis. I was running from some raccoons who had already stolen my wallet. I dove into the woodchipper thinking it was an empty dumpster. It was a rough landing
@@sushihit2813 absolutely not. I was struggling with some meth induced psychosis that had me running from some raccoons that had already stolen my wallet
Ethanisonline is trans now right? I saw a post someone made accusing him of coming out as trans for attention and good boy/girl points after he took all those L's with supermega and his that other skinny green guy. Is any of that true? Is none of that true? Who really cares anyway? Breadtubers are a wacky bunch.
Duh this is their go to thing. They so something people dont like so people stop watching then they come out as trans and those idiots come crawling back and do everything they can to defend them
i dont understand why anyone would want to come out as trans for attention though. Ive been trans for years and people dont treat you better for being trans if anything you get more hate than if you would if you werent trans. But on average it changes nothing really.
They get popular because they grift on ideas they know will hit young right-winger algorithms and then they just get signal boosted by Redditors because they all struggle to find leftist content online.
I can't believe i missed that tbh I feel like I'm constantly watching videos about breadtubers and somehow missed 3 months of Ethan transitioning lol but honestly loving this new arc I love youtube lmao
The funny thing is that 'Breadtube' has a lot of the same audience that the right wing 'anji-sjw' or 'skeptic' community had 6-7 years ago. It was never about an ideology or finding the right solutions, there's just a large chunk of gen-z that always wanted to sound smarter and be better than others.
@@ytgetsonmynwrvera "I learned and growed. That's why I'm just as vitriolic and hateful towards right wingers as I was towards left wingers and feminists" there was no growth, only a change in politics. Anyone above the age of 18 can recognize this blatantly obvious trend.
the funniest part is that they refuse to accept it. They will never admit that their tone-deaf virtue signaling and womanly brow-beating is what lost them supporters.
Well, not funny IMO, just infurating and sad. The left in power tried talking like debate bros, the right used memes and vibes. Guess which one appeals to more voters?
Very astute! 🌈❤️ Here’s some gold fellow traveler! Of the webiverse! Bazinga! Fuckin love science, in this house science is real so there’s 72 genders and the vaccine is safe and good.
Ethanisonline shitting on people's appearances when his skin is shiny with grease, his eyes look in two different directions, his chin is lost to time and the purple bags under his eyes become more and more prominent with every video
I think I can explain. Noah does absolutely seem "chill" on a surface level. The thing is, he can say absolute nonsense and insanity while looking cool as a cucumber. It's like an art. He's still an idiot and a lunatic but you have to look past the facade.
@@gottesurteil3201 Noah from afar looks the most put together, and like he can function in society. Dude's got a history in athletics If I recall. But he's also got horrid, abysmal, impressively bad, takes in practically every video.
Not true at all. Almost everybody I know seems to have a happy fun family and friend group at the forefront of far right politics. You're thinking of commies specifically. Yes they are miserable and hate family
"No bad tactics, just bad targets" is a phrase meant to excuse war crimes like genocide, which many of these breadtubers claim to be against. So it is actually the "okay when we do it" mentality.
1:03:02 it's mainly because he's a conservative Catholic. There's no evidence to say he's a pedo. The reason he's saying it here is because, as a conservative Catholic, he claimed that teen pregnancy "wasn't the issue but rather unmarried pregnancy" obviously not the most sound take ever, but basically saying that if we encourage abstinence, teen pregnancy will be less of an issue. This was taken out of context to make it look like he was actually saying that teen marriage should be encouraged. Which is such a stretch it's not even funny
I mean he did also say 16 was biologically the optimal time to have a child. Sure, charitably you can say he doesn't mean morally, and i'd accept that, but it's also just wrong, it's not the optimal time.
Just an FYI because nobody seems to know what fascism is anymore; racism is not a component of fascism. I think people associate the two because of Nazism, but while Nazism is fascist, fascism is not Nazism. Nazism is fascism plus racism and some other things, Mussolini (the father of fascism) repeatedly denounced the idea of any one race being superior to another, and it was only when Nazi Germany essentially controlled Italy as well that they instituted racist policies.
Sadly your correct take is to nuanced. Most people put all those words into one big box of "evil" and call it a day. Yes fascism puts the state above all and integrates everything into it. That can include different races. National Socialism puts the interest of the Volk first and defines it along ethnic lines. But it should be noted that the German National Socialists recognized that the German people are made up of several races. Their race theory identified several European races which is very hard to understand under the modern race paradigm invented in America. Under that all kinds of people are just bunched together under the umbrella of "white". Again a convenient box limiting and simplifying the thinking on these matters.
nazism is also explicityly about antisemitism and fascism doesn’t have to be about superior race but it’s inherently about nationalism which is already a supremacist ideology
Andrew Schulz was right when he said “People can be weird or condescending. But they can’t be weird and condescending. And still expect people to listen to them”.
Is there a popular breadtuber that is a happy, healthy person? Just my limited experience, online and in person, far left people seem to be mentally ill or just generally unhappy and bitter about life. Looking to rationalize their problems by blaming it on society's ills. And when their life improves they develop less exteme political views. Just an observation of people I've known. I could be wrong. But it's sad to me to see young teens idolizing depressed alcoholic breadtubers who openly say they're sad and lonely.
@@lightfeather9953 it makes sense when you really read into the things they support almost everything they campaign for goes against normal life and normal society like those guys are really gonna vote Harris all because of abortion, and not because of important issues like illegal immigration and inflation? also those leftwing meltdowns after the election are a good indicator too, some of them lefties were even openly mocking people that cared about wanting things to be more affordable
24:05 I think my favourite part about this is that breadtube saw someone criticising pedophilia and immediately said "hey this is gonna harm the lgbt community"
One thing I notice the Breadtubers do often is what Mr. Samson does at 21:02. When they are called out after falsely slandering someone, if they genuinely apologize, they do it under the guise of someone from some "disenfranchised group" educated them that their comment hurt the group. It is never because they wrongly accused someone without evidence because they are salty assholes. It's caused they learned and grew as content creators, and as people. They are vile horrible people.
The guy didn't need CSA survivors lecturing him to know that throwing that word around the way he did cheapens it. It should be something he knows, seeing how he's from a group recognised for its extremists using negative buzzwords against people they disagree with.
@@DiegoAmateur donating to charities(unless we talk about actual ONG who do ground work)yeah won’t really do much finland is a better example of what the state is supposed to provide for you even if it’s capitalist the US have this logic that they are supposed to not have basic necesities covered by the state while scandinavians are quite the oposite and yeah many americans will associate western europe with socialism
His hit piece on Metatron was horrible. So much ad hominem. Then the losers on r/youtubedrama glazed him for it. I feel like if that sub is on your side, you're automatically in the wrong lmao
25 y.o. towards an 18y.o.? not really. Their bodies are essentially around the same age physiologically so they just look like they're in the same age range a 60y.o. towards an 18y.o.? definitely weird. Usually, they have grandkids around that age too...
3:55 "No bad tactics, only bad targets" actually predates Breadtube. It was made notorious as early as Gamergate, with Bob Chipman/Moviebob/Diabeeto saying this about doxxing Gamergate-adjacent people to harass them.
I'm left of center and...yea, breadtube has been a plague. Only one I can stomach is Munecat. Also, breadtube got it's name from a book called "Conquest of Bread".
I’ll just say this: Vaush’s reasoning to not go vegan is the same reasoning he uses to not condemn CP. He’s not vegan, if you catch my drift. Someone check his hard drive.
When I first heard the word "Breadtuber" I thought it was a derogatory term for youtubers who have zero substance to their content and are all filler. After learning what it really meant I wasn't entirely wrong
... This entire time I thought breadtube was lowkey referring to the other red colored tube. Every time someone mentioned a breadtuber I honestly thought that's what they meant and they were just trying to bypass filters.
I have a friend who got caught smoking weed on a rooftop early in highschool and had to go to anti drug counseling for a year because of it. It made him bitter and now he hates the idea of smoking weed and will shittalk at the drop of a hat. Maybe a similar thing happened to Tom.
Speaking on apologies, a while ago I had an argument with 2 very long time friends. Who over the years went super left. And I messed up, said some stuff I shouldn’t have. And the next day I said alright so that stuff was on me, that shits in my head. And it shouldn’t be my bad. And they both go what is this gas lighting?! I was so confused lol. Never in my life have I been more clear, I was wrong and I’m sorry. And then get told that. I was like cool deuces. Been looking for a reason to not deal with yall anyway lol
About what does Destiny say this? The only thing I can think of is, “if the opposition doesn’t play by the rules neither should we,” which uh… ya… brought to you from captain DUUURRRRHHH. The rules of engagement are so inconsistent if the enemy uses human shields they’re allowed to kill civilians… ya, because otherwise you incentivize the use of human shields
@@gamingwhilebroken2355what about him saying the firefighter deserves no sympathy for dying at the trump rally? Show compassion for me but not thee huh?
I would LOVE discourse about sourdough. I don't care how good it is, I am sick of hearing about people's 100-yr old sourdough starters. They always talk about it like it's a pet and not just a jar full of bacteria
Okay, so Breadtubers, from what I understand, consider everyone less worthy than them because of their perceived morality. It's just more SoCal holier than thou nonsense, in my opinion.
Tom, just got my NeverGoon sweatshirt. This is the nicest merch I’ve ever gotten. In terms of quality, the sweater is amazing, and presentation, plus 3 foil stickers and a pin? Dude…great job.
Gotta love the people who like to redefine words or move goalposts so they can try and tear other people down. Somehow we managed to create a phile category that includes adults?
So with you on this. I am a social democrat myself, politically, but the horrible hypocrisy drives me so mad. When I first realized that these people genuinely think they can do exactly the same things they criticize in others, and it's justified as long as it's for their goals or convictions, I couldn't believe it. And yeah, you are of course right that this comes from both sides of the political spectrum, I probably just have more of a problem with it, when it comes from the left, because those used to be the people I align with.
Coming from a military background it’s just crazy how they’ll roll in the mud then cry that they got muddy. How do you even go into a situation knowing you’re gonna get heat and can’t handle it?
It’s not just the smugness. It’s the insincerity too. They are so confident they are right and are thus so condescending, but they are also too cowardly to be sincere and do this lame thing where they pussyfoot around what they actually think because they don’t want to get called out.
Happy to see the video as I was watching the live the other day and missed a good part from that topic and couldn't see it later as I'm not a member. Thanks
Breadtube is honestly the best thing to ever happen to the far right. It took everyones eyes off the weird far-right youtubers that are about as abundant as the weird breadtubers
Right was thinking about this, like the right loves to emphasize the bad left while the left does the same to the right, but one feels so much more abundant in content
That's one way to rise in social standing; find a bigger asshole than yourself. People like Quarterpounder, Synthetic Man, Geeks and Gamers sure came out smelling better to people since then.
What far right TH-camrs? Almost all the anti-SJWs were leftists and joined breadtube. Anyone far right was banned off TH-cam. Even manosphere stuff isn't really on TH-cam anymore. That's the problem. One side actually gets kicked off the site while the other one doesn't and that creates the illusion that one gets more negative focus than the other.
@@Maysacredyou guys keep proving us right its always what aboutism with the left and not playing by the same rules you set for the right. You guys think the left can make fun of people all because in your eyes its fine because the right is worse like nah dude.
That definition makes me know why I never knew what a "breadtuber" was. Also still don't understand but I know it is people I do not agree with and would never watch.
The thing about Isaac Butterfield is that he once was overweight. He accepted it, got in shape, and inspired other people to do the same. He has seriously acerbic wit and at the same time will discuss things rationally after a comedic rant.
I hate them because they pretend to be the good guys when in fact they are no better than anyone else. this misconception that they're the good guys hurts everyone they claim to represent. the mr metokur video on hbomberguy sums it up VERY well. they are all trolls but they pretend to have a good cause. it drives me nuts.
lol Noah saying someone had to explain to him that falsely calling someone a pedo is a shitty thing and that “it makes sense” shows 2 things he has no actual sense of morality and he thinks everybody is stupid
Jake Dolittle is EthanIsOnline are different people??? Man, it's embarrassing as when I thought Turkey Tom and Tom Dark looked quite similar, I almost thought it was the same guy
Tbh I don't think it's hypocritical to insult someone's appearance IF the criticism of the person is that they use appearance insults. Not only does it demonstrate the absurdity of their standard, but if they get upset about it, it shows the original person's hypocrisy.
No then you admit that shaming people for their appearance, even things they cant change, or voices they are born with, is okay which is exactly the opposite of body positivity. The original insulter holds no such idea or ethos.
If two obese dudes, 1 good 1 evil, are in front of me and I say “it’s ok to be fat” to the good then look to the evil and say “ you look like a pig fatty” I’m going to look stupid
For reference the 'breadtube' name came from the book 'The Conquest of Bread' by Peter Kropotkin, an anarcho-communist writer/philosopher - the idea being that 'breadtube' was supposed to be creators who espoused left-wing anarchism/libertarianism.
“You can be a leftist and not be an annoying douche about it.”
Breadtube: “NAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH”
Literally impossible
TMK, Counterpoints, Lindsey Ellis, Jenny Nickels, and hhombre are considered bread tube and while they have their issues like everyone else, are fairly good and not annoying. Content creators that pop up every few months with hours+ long well researched videos tend to have more nuanced takes then streamer rage baiters.
@@hefoxedJenny Nicholson is a Breadtuber? Really?
@@Cairo40000 she criticizes one shit book from a right winger 5 years ago and shes suddenly a breadtuber lmao
Tom's right, it the unbearable smugness that makes these folk so fundamentally unlikable.
Yeah, their smugness combined with how they preach their morality while breaking it themselves because somehow it’s ok when they do it is absolutely irritating. Glad to see the space stagnate and lose steam in more recent years
not just smugness, unearned smugness.
virgue signallers i think the word you're looking for
That dopey expression that ethanisonline has on his face changes my mood to hostile.
if they were fundamentally unlikable they wouldnt gain followers in the first place, tom says that in their videos they seem reasonable, the issue is that behind the camera they are unhinged
breadtubers justifying crimes against humanity because they dislike said humanity’s political beliefs:
Breadtuber try not to be a hypocrite challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
This is really common actually. Just look at all the people who support the guy who shot that health insurance CEO. They are supporting lynching and think it's fine for individual citizens to act as judge, jury, and executioner as long as the person lynched is kinda shitty.
The Israeli mindset
I think you have breadtubers confused with republicans
@@TimeSage434y r u acting like it doesnt apply to both
I don’t hate bread tubers, but the thing I dislike about the worst of them is the air of superiority that they exude.
Why not?
hate breadtubers, please
@@patrickbateman312 because it’s not necessarily that they’re always wrong (bipartisan issues exist) or that they’re always bad people. Some of them legitimately believe in what they preach in a non-abrasive way. Those people are still breadtubers, but they’re not necessarily stupid, just ignorant.
However, the feelings of intellectual/moral superiority that “the worst of them” derive from believing so wholeheartedly that their views are correct is what I believe makes that infamously vocal percentage of them so annoying.
They only seem stupid because, in reality, they are usually to willfully ignorant to construct a coherent argument without resorting to playing either the race, capitalism, or privilege/“wypipo bad” cards to support it rather than providing legitimate context and/or supporting arguments.
@@jordishimaSo basically, they had the potential to be good(technically still do), but squander it by being pretentious douchebags that no one wants to listen to.
@jordishima they're communists. They are always wrong.
can i get some cheesetube to go with my breadtube? we can create a grilledcheesetube sandwich
@@chainsawdollie i got a cheese tube for ya buddy boy
Charcuterie boardtube
heres a pattytube for the meat
How about some whinetube?
To go with the grilledcheesetube.
@@thesilliestclown thank u. this feast will be marvelous !
EthanIsOnline making fun of anyone, ever, about anything... is always hilarious to me.
He looks like my friends mum. Can't unsee it.
@@bighoss1860maybe he's better off as a woman then
Ethan looks like Jeffery Dahmer on estrogen.
@@ihopcanadahe looks like he’s already transitioning
He's lexupdog rebound when she got rejected from supermega
There is no more distasteful combination as being smug and wrong
The problem isn’t being “wrong”, it’s more being “disingenuous”. It shows they don’t actually care about whether they’re right or wrong, which is much worse.
I'll never forgive these fatherless stick-bundles for ruining the Mustache/Hawaiian shirt combo
hey at least wendigoon has that combo too and he's cool
Dont let them win brother. Keep rocking it.
I prefer the term english cigarettes
nice beast wars profile pic
Well that's just prime
the phenotype of a breadtuber: soft, doughy, bad haircut, resting smug face.
Redditor phenotype
Why are we describing the Thomas of the Turks to a tea, when referring to breadtubers? peepoGiggle
And 5 mental disorders they need medications for
I fell in a woodchipper once.
It wasn't turned on or anything like that
Were u okay?
@sushihit2813 no, i was day 5 without sleep and deep into meth fueled psychosis. I was running from some raccoons who had already stolen my wallet. I dove into the woodchipper thinking it was an empty dumpster. It was a rough landing
@@sushihit2813 no lol
@@sushihit2813 absolutely not. I was struggling with some meth induced psychosis that had me running from some raccoons that had already stolen my wallet
I'm gay
Ethanisonline is trans now right? I saw a post someone made accusing him of coming out as trans for attention and good boy/girl points after he took all those L's with supermega and his that other skinny green guy. Is any of that true? Is none of that true? Who really cares anyway? Breadtubers are a wacky bunch.
Duh this is their go to thing. They so something people dont like so people stop watching then they come out as trans and those idiots come crawling back and do everything they can to defend them
i was gonna say looking at their new thumbnails when he looked ethan up lol
i dont understand why anyone would want to come out as trans for attention though. Ive been trans for years and people dont treat you better for being trans if anything you get more hate than if you would if you werent trans. But on average it changes nothing really.
@@Louca-pv9newell they can get a couple views back you know. They say any publicity is good publicity 😅
@@Jiren420 lose relevancy = cut off weenis
very sad! many such cases.
How so many of these breadtuber dudes got popular in the first place is baffling to me
dudes? sophie from mars is CLEARLY a woman!
There’s people dumb enough to think their ideologies are a good idea so they’re more than dumb enough to think they make good content.
They get popular because they grift on ideas they know will hit young right-winger algorithms and then they just get signal boosted by Redditors because they all struggle to find leftist content online.
They pander to the more normal folks on the left till the mask slips and they lose that audience, then they just go for the far left crowd
It is a lot less effort to parrot socialist bs and pretend to care about the lower class than to actually be kind and actively help them
"Ethan is a woman now"
I regretted investigating that
He’s so online that he trooned into one.
Imagine if Ethan starts an OF now
Ethanisonhrt
I can't believe i missed that tbh I feel like I'm constantly watching videos about breadtubers and somehow missed 3 months of Ethan transitioning lol but honestly loving this new arc I love youtube lmao
Holy shit, can someone explain to me why so many men who are breadtubers troon out?
"i didnt consider how my words would affect others and for that i am very sorry"
- yoon suk after failing a martial law military dictatorship takeover
Yung-succ
Me when I'm bored so I have to declare martial law
Yoon suk when yoon swallow enters the room
The funny thing is that 'Breadtube' has a lot of the same audience that the right wing 'anji-sjw' or 'skeptic' community had 6-7 years ago. It was never about an ideology or finding the right solutions, there's just a large chunk of gen-z that always wanted to sound smarter and be better than others.
People change and grow. That's how the internet works.
the right wing are right that's why they are called the right.
the left is called left because they left their brain in toilet
@@ytgetsonmynwrvera "I learned and growed. That's why I'm just as vitriolic and hateful towards right wingers as I was towards left wingers and feminists"
there was no growth, only a change in politics. Anyone above the age of 18 can recognize this blatantly obvious trend.
I don't get how clowns talk about breadtube but can't even mention "the conquest of bread"
@@LMFAO_FAN_2004not tryna be a dick but the past tense is grew
These guys helped trump win. That’s pretty funny.
the funniest part is that they refuse to accept it. They will never admit that their tone-deaf virtue signaling and womanly brow-beating is what lost them supporters.
Well, not funny IMO, just infurating and sad. The left in power tried talking like debate bros, the right used memes and vibes. Guess which one appeals to more voters?
Idiots rednecks also helped trump win.
@@MarquisLeary34 Destiny gooner detected
@@MarquisLeary34 haha you think memes attracted voters? Try common sense
My dislike of breadtubers is the same as my dislike of redditors. Its all so fake and you can always tell its a mask that could drop at any second.
Very astute! 🌈❤️
Here’s some gold fellow traveler! Of the webiverse! Bazinga! Fuckin love science, in this house science is real so there’s 72 genders and the vaccine is safe and good.
Real, can’t stand redditors whole app is a hive mind
@@imtoxiq_ Being banned from Reddit was the greatest day of my life.
like all redditors?
I got perma banned for having a different perspective despite being well within the ToS of the platform lol.
Ethanisonline shitting on people's appearances when he looks like a cross between Shaggy and the woman from Atomic Blonde.
Ethanisonline shitting on people's appearances when his skin is shiny with grease, his eyes look in two different directions, his chin is lost to time and the purple bags under his eyes become more and more prominent with every video
Don’t dare you compare him with shaggy. Shaggy is 10x better lol
@@Mayor_Ncognito spiteful mutant is a useful term to apply.
He also trooned out so another Leftist bingo spot filled out on the board.
“Noah samsen seems chill he seems fine”
I swear Tom has the worst sense for people
Truuuuuuuueee
well he is friend with destiny ...
I think I can explain. Noah does absolutely seem "chill" on a surface level. The thing is, he can say absolute nonsense and insanity while looking cool as a cucumber. It's like an art. He's still an idiot and a lunatic but you have to look past the facade.
@@gottesurteil3201 Noah from afar looks the most put together, and like he can function in society. Dude's got a history in athletics If I recall. But he's also got horrid, abysmal, impressively bad, takes in practically every video.
He didn't say that at all. Did you listen to the video? He said from his podcast appearance with Jreg he seemed normal.
People who make politics their life just inherently lead an obnoxious and miserable existence.
moreso if leftwing for whatever reason
the things they stand for make life generally miserable
Or they just troon out
Not true at all. Almost everybody I know seems to have a happy fun family and friend group at the forefront of far right politics. You're thinking of commies specifically. Yes they are miserable and hate family
@ they must have some hot cousins
"No bad tactics, just bad targets" is a phrase meant to excuse war crimes like genocide, which many of these breadtubers claim to be against. So it is actually the "okay when we do it" mentality.
Funniest part to me is these people are self proclaimed antifacists, when they are legit owning facist stances lmao
1:03:02 it's mainly because he's a conservative Catholic. There's no evidence to say he's a pedo. The reason he's saying it here is because, as a conservative Catholic, he claimed that teen pregnancy "wasn't the issue but rather unmarried pregnancy" obviously not the most sound take ever, but basically saying that if we encourage abstinence, teen pregnancy will be less of an issue. This was taken out of context to make it look like he was actually saying that teen marriage should be encouraged. Which is such a stretch it's not even funny
I mean he did also say 16 was biologically the optimal time to have a child.
Sure, charitably you can say he doesn't mean morally, and i'd accept that, but it's also just wrong, it's not the optimal time.
Just an FYI because nobody seems to know what fascism is anymore; racism is not a component of fascism. I think people associate the two because of Nazism, but while Nazism is fascist, fascism is not Nazism. Nazism is fascism plus racism and some other things, Mussolini (the father of fascism) repeatedly denounced the idea of any one race being superior to another, and it was only when Nazi Germany essentially controlled Italy as well that they instituted racist policies.
Sadly your correct take is to nuanced. Most people put all those words into one big box of "evil" and call it a day. Yes fascism puts the state above all and integrates everything into it. That can include different races. National Socialism puts the interest of the Volk first and defines it along ethnic lines.
But it should be noted that the German National Socialists recognized that the German people are made up of several races. Their race theory identified several European races which is very hard to understand under the modern race paradigm invented in America. Under that all kinds of people are just bunched together under the umbrella of "white". Again a convenient box limiting and simplifying the thinking on these matters.
nazism is also explicityly about antisemitism
and fascism doesn’t have to be about superior race but it’s inherently about nationalism
which is already a supremacist ideology
they're always so smug about being wrong about everything
Vaush during the elections. Nothing reality throws at these people could ever reveal to them how mind numbingly stupid they are.
why is peethan slowly morphing into lex...... genuinely terrifying
i thought that too, the hair and the makeup is the same.
the trooning out pipeline is real
When people lack personality they tend to copy other people’s personalities. Including their partner’s personality.
MY EYES
@@Batzalko Cluster B personality disorders like BPD do happen in men but are often overlooked.
Andrew Schulz was right when he said “People can be weird or condescending. But they can’t be weird and condescending. And still expect people to listen to them”.
It's like "don't break the law while you're breaking the law".
it's always the ugliest people with the most audacity TO be condescending though.
condescension isn't a trait you'd want to begin with.
Bread tube 'er?
I hardly know her!
Damaged people worshipping faulty ideologies... and somehow, they still manage to be smug.
Is there a popular breadtuber that is a happy, healthy person? Just my limited experience, online and in person, far left people seem to be mentally ill or just generally unhappy and bitter about life. Looking to rationalize their problems by blaming it on society's ills.
And when their life improves they develop less exteme political views. Just an observation of people I've known. I could be wrong.
But it's sad to me to see young teens idolizing depressed alcoholic breadtubers who openly say they're sad and lonely.
@@lightfeather9953 it makes sense when you really read into the things they support
almost everything they campaign for goes against normal life and normal society
like those guys are really gonna vote Harris all because of abortion, and not because of important issues like illegal immigration and inflation?
also those leftwing meltdowns after the election are a good indicator too, some of them lefties were even openly mocking people that cared about wanting things to be more affordable
24:05 I think my favourite part about this is that breadtube saw someone criticising pedophilia and immediately said "hey this is gonna harm the lgbt community"
they make the biggest freudian slips when it exposes the truth the most
One thing I notice the Breadtubers do often is what Mr. Samson does at 21:02. When they are called out after falsely slandering someone, if they genuinely apologize, they do it under the guise of someone from some "disenfranchised group" educated them that their comment hurt the group. It is never because they wrongly accused someone without evidence because they are salty assholes. It's caused they learned and grew as content creators, and as people. They are vile horrible people.
The guy didn't need CSA survivors lecturing him to know that throwing that word around the way he did cheapens it. It should be something he knows, seeing how he's from a group recognised for its extremists using negative buzzwords against people they disagree with.
If Turkey Tom had a full grown beard and a Hawaiian shirt people might confuse him with Wendigoon
Nah, he'd just have to clean up his current facial hair a bit and grow his hair out a bit more with the fed look Wendigoon has now.
At least until you hear them talk, it’s pretty hard to confuse a northeast American coastal accent with a West Virginia accent.
wendigoon actually has lesser and cleaner facial hair
Destiny glazing starts at 0:06
Very helpful thanks👍
@@cashmoney9704right?
It gets even funnier after the fifth thousand times it's been posted.
How old was Aisha again?
Nick feuntes?
Tom takes pages right out of nicks book, ✌️ I am not a gay ✌️@@TitanfallTeachings
they have an arrogance that is unjustified and that's mainly what angers me about these freaks
they dont even make bread, bunch of phonies
Too lazy
Why don’t you like bread, Turkish Tommy?
Gluten free turkeytom
Bread makes you fat?!- Scott Pilgrim
@Jiren420 missed gluten free turkeytommy rhyme. Failure.
@@areichentalin my head Gluten free turkey T sounds better
🗣🎤🔥
turkish tommy is my mommy
suckin' on my salami
i bust off like a italian mafia gun called tommy
34:11
Socialists when you tell them about donating to charity rather than paying a centralized state.
@@DiegoAmateur donating to charities(unless we talk about actual ONG who do ground work)yeah won’t really do much
finland is a better example of what the state is supposed to provide for you even if it’s capitalist
the US have this logic that they are supposed to not have basic necesities covered by the state while scandinavians are quite the oposite
and yeah many americans will associate western europe with socialism
Breadtubers are just a bunch all high and mighty and being the “nice person” but in reality they’re as just as evil as the same people they call out-
bad empanada really deserves his own slop video.
That dude is unhinged and has been for a long time.
@@SDREHXCat least he’s honest in calling himself bad empanada and not good empanada
Isn’t he a communist?
Nah bro he'd get raided by bad panda's audience
His hit piece on Metatron was horrible. So much ad hominem. Then the losers on r/youtubedrama glazed him for it. I feel like if that sub is on your side, you're automatically in the wrong lmao
Ethan does look like the type of dude to tran out, unlucky
Bigbunjeee called it a while back lmao. He was glowing with post-troonmatic breadtube disorder
@@marklinengineextras8353lmao post troonmatic thats so good man did you come up with that? Give yourself a pat on the back if you did
@eprimchad2576 yeah was just sounded right haha. thanks fam.
at some point people will realize that finding an 18-year-old legal adult attractive does not in fact make you a pedophile
There is technically another term for being attracted to teens. Pedophilia is specifically refering to before puberty.
The video literally shows that there is a term for it. It may not be illegal but depending on the age gap can be concerning.
@@danilutka the point your making is different from what they're saying as far I'm aware but I'm also not done with the video.
It can be weird and gross still if the other person is so much older
25 y.o. towards an 18y.o.? not really. Their bodies are essentially around the same age physiologically so they just look like they're in the same age range
a 60y.o. towards an 18y.o.? definitely weird. Usually, they have grandkids around that age too...
How are all these guys mocking other people’s appearances? They are all the body type of GameStop managers or Reddit mods.
"safe sleazy"
Robs Media's anti breadtube videos are timeless classics
3:55 "No bad tactics, only bad targets" actually predates Breadtube. It was made notorious as early as Gamergate, with Bob Chipman/Moviebob/Diabeeto saying this about doxxing Gamergate-adjacent people to harass them.
I'm left of center and...yea, breadtube has been a plague. Only one I can stomach is Munecat. Also, breadtube got it's name from a book called "Conquest of Bread".
Eminem roasted MGK so hard that he switched genres.
BigBunjee roasted EthanIsOnline so hard that he/she switched genders.
Tom's more of a tortilla guy over bread
Anyone else saw the iconic Tom x leafy art on Twitter?
Gonna goon real quick
the rocks hurt my feet when i walk and the air hurts my face
26:43 when he makes that "oh shit I just showed my loli folder to everyone" sound is one of my favorite internet moments of all time.
I’ll just say this: Vaush’s reasoning to not go vegan is the same reasoning he uses to not condemn CP. He’s not vegan, if you catch my drift. Someone check his hard drive.
It’s the smugness from the breadtubers for me
44:15
because when you identify as a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail
When I first heard the word "Breadtuber" I thought it was a derogatory term for youtubers who have zero substance to their content and are all filler. After learning what it really meant I wasn't entirely wrong
you're entirely right even
... This entire time I thought breadtube was lowkey referring to the other red colored tube. Every time someone mentioned a breadtuber I honestly thought that's what they meant and they were just trying to bypass filters.
My comments get insta deleted
Ain’t nobody tryna read em anyway 🤷
@@Orgock I am
Ain’t nobody tryna read em anyway 🤷
Ain’t nobody tryna read em anyway 🤷
Ain’t nobody tryna read em anyway 🤷
Tom always has something to say about weed i wanna know what his backstory is with that, he mentions it wayyy to often for it to not be personal
Teenagers love to weed.
Yeah it’s especially weird when he uses nicotine which is just OBJECTIVELY worse for you
@earhearthush-up5549 it's not about health, it's about lifestyle
@@Jovan_of_AEA
Health affects lifestyle and vice versa
I have a friend who got caught smoking weed on a rooftop early in highschool and had to go to anti drug counseling for a year because of it. It made him bitter and now he hates the idea of smoking weed and will shittalk at the drop of a hat. Maybe a similar thing happened to Tom.
Speaking on apologies, a while ago I had an argument with 2 very long time friends. Who over the years went super left. And I messed up, said some stuff I shouldn’t have. And the next day I said alright so that stuff was on me, that shits in my head. And it shouldn’t be my bad. And they both go what is this gas lighting?! I was so confused lol. Never in my life have I been more clear, I was wrong and I’m sorry. And then get told that. I was like cool deuces. Been looking for a reason to not deal with yall anyway lol
Sounds like a good thing that you left them in the dust lol
Just to be clear destiny makes the same argument constantly. I dont have to be consistent because rightwingers r bad and lie.
And goes a step farther and says its okay they d*e. Tom doesnt actually care that much about lol
Meanwhile he used to cheat on his wife with Lauren Southern of all people. Literally zero surprise that man is devoid of all compunction
About what does Destiny say this? The only thing I can think of is, “if the opposition doesn’t play by the rules neither should we,” which uh… ya… brought to you from captain DUUURRRRHHH. The rules of engagement are so inconsistent if the enemy uses human shields they’re allowed to kill civilians… ya, because otherwise you incentivize the use of human shields
@@gamingwhilebroken2355what about him saying the firefighter deserves no sympathy for dying at the trump rally? Show compassion for me but not thee huh?
@@gamingwhilebroken2355ofc a gay is defending destiny….
Of every online person, Vaush is my least favorite. But Ethan is Online is a very close second.
Is it the gooning to CP, the constant lying, or just how generally disgusting they are?
Not me thinking this was about people who make bread on YT and this was a discourse about sour dough
I would LOVE discourse about sourdough. I don't care how good it is, I am sick of hearing about people's 100-yr old sourdough starters. They always talk about it like it's a pet and not just a jar full of bacteria
12:16 "ethan is a woman now? oh my bad, well we're talking about ethan when she was a guy"
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Okay, so Breadtubers, from what I understand, consider everyone less worthy than them because of their perceived morality. It's just more SoCal holier than thou nonsense, in my opinion.
They’re a bunch of slack jawed, unprincipled, unscrupulous grifting figgets.
At least that’s why I don’t like them.
BreadTube is great to point and laugh at while feeling better about my life.
The physiognomy never lies. It’s fucking hilarious how you know exactly what those muppets believe just by looking at them
I don’t find this idea worthwhile or interesting
@@hitmanx200>its real
@@Casboof source: you made it up
@@hitmanx200 humanity literally cant survive without pattern recognition
@@angel_of_rust okay but it is not always possible to verify a persons thoughts by looking at the layout of their face
Tom the type of guy to post a video on the wrong channel.
Tom, just got my NeverGoon sweatshirt. This is the nicest merch I’ve ever gotten. In terms of quality, the sweater is amazing, and presentation, plus 3 foil stickers and a pin? Dude…great job.
thanks man im glad u like it
Gotta love the people who like to redefine words or move goalposts so they can try and tear other people down.
Somehow we managed to create a phile category that includes adults?
Gotta own the chuds and their logic
9:18 HEY THATS ME
Nice bro
So with you on this. I am a social democrat myself, politically, but the horrible hypocrisy drives me so mad.
When I first realized that these people genuinely think they can do exactly the same things they criticize in others, and it's justified as long as it's for their goals or convictions, I couldn't believe it. And yeah, you are of course right that this comes from both sides of the political spectrum, I probably just have more of a problem with it, when it comes from the left, because those used to be the people I align with.
I LOVE TOMSLOP!
I love sloppy Tom
To summerize the main reason as concisely as possible: "confiedence in incorrect assertions and an unwillingness to hear conflictions to them"
We need to make a counter cheesetube so we can have grilledcheesetube compilations
rightwingers are more likely gonna call it Americatube
Coming from a military background it’s just crazy how they’ll roll in the mud then cry that they got muddy. How do you even go into a situation knowing you’re gonna get heat and can’t handle it?
It’s not just the smugness. It’s the insincerity too. They are so confident they are right and are thus so condescending, but they are also too cowardly to be sincere and do this lame thing where they pussyfoot around what they actually think because they don’t want to get called out.
Ethan is what I always imagined The Fungus Man from Odd Thomas looked like in real life.
Breadtubers when tomathan doesn’t do the Charleston
Happy to see the video as I was watching the live the other day and missed a good part from that topic and couldn't see it later as I'm not a member. Thanks
Groyper war.
Soy war* no need to thank me
@@Vrillionaire Crazy that you view it this way with Fuentes. Really weird relationship if you ask me.
@@Vrillionaire Chill it with the parasocialness sometimes
@@thenielz1 Soyper war
@@ThisguySL facts asf frfr
Tom getting mad??? No way. Tom is just a chill guy
Who cares about Breadtube? Can we please talk about Redtube instead?
I think Bread tube refers to Conquest of Bread by Kropotkin an early foundational book of anarchist and socialist theory
Isaac butterfield is very cool, and quite a nice dude. Breadtubers are just braindead.
He's a bit cringe
Breadtube is honestly the best thing to ever happen to the far right. It took everyones eyes off the weird far-right youtubers that are about as abundant as the weird breadtubers
Right was thinking about this, like the right loves to emphasize the bad left while the left does the same to the right, but one feels so much more abundant in content
All I gotta say is that the Right and the Left seem to really hate eachother alot
That's one way to rise in social standing; find a bigger asshole than yourself. People like Quarterpounder, Synthetic Man, Geeks and Gamers sure came out smelling better to people since then.
What far right TH-camrs? Almost all the anti-SJWs were leftists and joined breadtube. Anyone far right was banned off TH-cam. Even manosphere stuff isn't really on TH-cam anymore.
That's the problem. One side actually gets kicked off the site while the other one doesn't and that creates the illusion that one gets more negative focus than the other.
@@Maysacredyou guys keep proving us right its always what aboutism with the left and not playing by the same rules you set for the right. You guys think the left can make fun of people all because in your eyes its fine because the right is worse like nah dude.
That definition makes me know why I never knew what a "breadtuber" was. Also still don't understand but I know it is people I do not agree with and would never watch.
Dead friends aren't former friends. They're the only friends that will never disappoint you.
it’s fucking cooked that people have to bring politics into call out nonces 💀
The thing about Isaac Butterfield is that he once was overweight. He accepted it, got in shape, and inspired other people to do the same. He has seriously acerbic wit and at the same time will discuss things rationally after a comedic rant.
I wonder what happens when we die
people you don't want to watch nor should ever want to watch if you are a self respecting human being.
Hell is blue?
@@matiasgarciacasas558 I watched the entire video twice before commenting, you absolute knucklehead
@matiasgarciacasas558 yeah we all assume things with various results, it's cool
@matiasgarciacasas558 what are you even talking about??
"It's a joke when we get caught"
13:34 Did he just say lost a debate to Vaush? Buddy just get off the Internet before it gets any worse for you.
Vaush used to be really good at debating when he did research. That was years ago though.
@michaelh878 he was the person i used to go when i wanted to hear the left's perspective.
I hate them because they pretend to be the good guys when in fact they are no better than anyone else. this misconception that they're the good guys hurts everyone they claim to represent. the mr metokur video on hbomberguy sums it up VERY well. they are all trolls but they pretend to have a good cause. it drives me nuts.
Is having no chin a requirement as a man to become a breadtuber?
They had one but it went into making the bread they're actually not sharing
lol Noah saying someone had to explain to him that falsely calling someone a pedo is a shitty thing and that “it makes sense” shows 2 things he has no actual sense of morality and he thinks everybody is stupid
Jake Doolittle broke mans Atozy
Jake Dolittle is EthanIsOnline are different people??? Man, it's embarrassing as when I thought Turkey Tom and Tom Dark looked quite similar, I almost thought it was the same guy
Noah kinda changed his whole shtick now. He’s actually in a gym arc and does training videos. he’s getting pretty big. Kinda gotta respect it
bro might end up exercising himself out of leftism
it's pretty rare for people to stay leftist while in shape (hasan)
Tom called himself a Muppet and I can't unsee it
He does look like a muppet with pubic hair on his face.
Tbh I don't think it's hypocritical to insult someone's appearance IF the criticism of the person is that they use appearance insults. Not only does it demonstrate the absurdity of their standard, but if they get upset about it, it shows the original person's hypocrisy.
No then you admit that shaming people for their appearance, even things they cant change, or voices they are born with, is okay which is exactly the opposite of body positivity. The original insulter holds no such idea or ethos.
If two obese dudes, 1 good 1 evil, are in front of me and I say “it’s ok to be fat” to the good then look to the evil and say “ you look like a pig fatty” I’m going to look stupid
layoff the breadtube lil bro
For reference the 'breadtube' name came from the book 'The Conquest of Bread' by Peter Kropotkin, an anarcho-communist writer/philosopher - the idea being that 'breadtube' was supposed to be creators who espoused left-wing anarchism/libertarianism.