I was worried about the price alot. My kidney wasn't enough to buy it, but then a revelation came to me "sacrifice the children instead of yourself, indeed that is the best way to achieve what you desire". Selling kidneys isn't enough anymore, now you gotta nap them kids and depending on who's kid it is there will be a larger bounty on your head. But hey atleast I got the GPU now
@@anuzahyder7185 interesting too, but I think dlss quality most times look the same or even better than native. I will certainly use at least quality dlss turning on and off frame generation depending on the game.
@@MisterRhul i wudnt say better but v close to native in cyberpunk. Btw i dont see any dlss3 option, probably need to wait for developers to make it available to actual games.
@@anuzahyder7185 it is the best AA with better performance and latency without any loss of detail. Sometimes it is a little blurry or with less contrast, just a little, but most of the time it is even better. Depends on the implementation. I always prefer DLSS quality than any AA. When performance is a problem or even when it is not a issue, but downsampling still too heavy... are golden scenarios.
The next step is a neural network that can add DETAIL in real-time to objects in the game world, sort of like deepfakes but for environments, so trees in the distance can be great looking because they aren't in fact rendered, just added by the AI instead which is a lot cheaper! Or those low-poly, low-texture mountains that look god awful, those can be fixed too!
Should be literally the same as "native" or DLSS 2 framerate with visual improvements/artifacts from interpolation of DLSS 3 on top. Kinda eye-candy, but useless from the gameplay side IMO.
No frame skipping and frametime is much less, as you can see. You probably is worry about input lag, but Digital Foundry review stopped with all nonsense and proves that input lag will be better than no DLSS at all and similar to DLSS2 without frame generation.
It’s a good upgrade over DLSS 2.0 but not necessary. Though if you have a 4K120Hz screen and play with mouse + max RT, yeah, this card will deliver there.
I don't getting this. How is this even possible? First of all DLSS with no image quality impact blown my mind when it came, but even generating new frames without ghosting and input lag? This is literally next level!!! And combination with G synch technology? Oh my god what combo!!!!!
There is image quality impact and ghosting with DLSS 1-2, same goes to DLSS 3. Everything "next level" stuff comes at the cost if it's software, not hardware. Average cross-platform singleplayer games probably will be fine with that, but esports, details or skill demanding games will suffer a lot from those downsides.
Im an insane pixel detail person but I couldnt find any difference between Native and DLSS3, amazing! I only noticed in DLSS3 the shadows are a liiiittle bit whiter than Native
what about at 2:05 with the food stand. I'm seeing something weird with the little grass stuff in the middle of the bottom shelf. I wonder what's causing the left to appear so clear compared to the other two. It is just following comments about ray tracing but not sure. In real speed i wouldn't have noticed but i paused to see what the difference's could be in this clip.
As RTX 3080 user, i'm still disappointed that DLSS 3 is for RTX 40XX only. But this is true that DLSS 3 is the future and works great. I hope Nvidia will release it later for RTX 30XX or even 20XX. Thanks for great comparison!
Image scaling option from Nvidia Control Panel for 2K and 4K resolution can drastically improve the overall image quality and potential ghosting if its done carefully. I recommend using between 20-25% increase for 2K resolution and between 12-15% for 4K. If you are using additional ENB and shaders, make sure to adjust number accordingly.
I have 3080. 60% or so more powerful than PS5 and Series X without factoring in DLSS and FSR. PS5 and Series X would make me happy for their entire generation if not longer. But for reasons I got PC instead. So I think that as sweet as Frame Generation is,me and most of my 3080 DLSS2 brothers and sisters shall be fine for many years to come.
yeah you don't need an upgrade. I've been saving slowly for years to get a nice pc so i may get the 4080 12gb once that's out along with a 5800x3d. Only have 1440p 144hz so i'd hope that card could manage it.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe I recomend that you consider 12700K instead IF you are building from the ground up . It is nearly as awesome as 5800X3D in games and B660 and Z690 Boards shall be compatible with 13000 series as well, without the need to change motherboard and RAM should you decide to upgrade. And 13000 Series will/should be a lot more powerful than 5000 series and probably more powerful than Ryzen 7000 or about the same. So 12700K+some very good B660 should futureproof you more than 5800X3D and any AM4 motherboard. I purchased my MSI RTX3080 12GB Gaming Z Trio maybe a month ago. Not because I lacked patience,but because all the price rumors and PSU requirments and stuff in combination with the inflation potentially raising prices of 3000 Series again,were all immensely stressful to me. So I pulled a trigger on it. It was 100€ cheaper than 10gigs version.🤣
@@GameslordXY 4080 12gb is apparently 285w and will perform better than 3090. I suppose your right I should get Intel instead I just wonder if I'd need ddr5 or not because they seem to support both.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe There are DDR4 and DDR5 Boards for Intel 12000 yes. But they are different products. A Board that supports DDR4,does not support DDR5 and vise versa. There are benchmarks out there probably that show differences. DDR5 isn't as expensive as it used to be,but I do wonder if just any DDR5 is worth it. Depending on your budget,going DDR5 might not be terrible option,even if it costs you 50 - 100$ more . There is a rumor that DDR5 dramatically increases RT performanse on 3000 Series cards Is it True? I have no idea. But if True,it would be worth it imo... depending on the budget Intel 13000 should be out this year I think,so if you can wait... . You might also consider Ryzen 7000 since its out. And AMD shall unleash RDNA3 very soon.
@@GameslordXY I probably won't build the pc for 6 months. Aiming to save up £2500 and I'm almost there so all of these products will be out on the market by then so I'll be able to make decisions then. I'm interested in nvidia due to the frame generation tech and very good Ray tracing performance and I doubt amd will be able to match this.
@@J0rdan912 lol people said the same thing about real time image upscaling, yet here we are with so many upscalers available to use and everyone likes them. Plus TAA used in most games is horrible, native TAA already kills out the details that can be otherwise seen in native resolution. Temporal upscalers for this reason give better screen details than native, upscalers have a better TAA to replace the native one so that point of yours is irrelevant.
@@quartermaster2809 "many upscalers available to use and everyone likes them" Ultimate argument. Can't beat it. "Temporal upscalers for this reason give better screen details than native." Oh, really. That's new.
Parece que todos los que están haciendo review de esta 4090 se olvidaron de testear juegos como Control, Dying Light 2 o Metro Exodus, tres de los juegos que junto con Cyberpunk 2077 son los que mejor implementan el trazado de rayos y exigen al máximo la gpu. Una pena que los hayan dejado fuera. Curioso. Por otra parte, te recomiendo usar Nvidia Profile Inspector, hacer un perfil con los juegos que menciono o que tengan DLSS y activar en el menú de dicho programa el LOD Bias DX en -3.000, mejorará notablemente la nitidez en cualquiera de los modos del DLSS al nivel de Death Stranding que sí lo tiene implementado de forma nativa. Pero parece que tanto los programadores de los videjuegos como los tester se han olvidado de ello.
Lo lógico sería pensar que sí, sin embargo, Frame Generation se apoya en Nvidia Reflex para paliar el input lag a la hora de interpolar los frames sin que la latencia sufra de forma apreciable.
Sinceramente, Nvidia se la ha sacado. A ver cual es el siguiente paso con DLSS 4 pero esto ya es brutal, imaginaros que se pudiera implementar vía drivers para hacerlo funcionar en todos los juegos....
Even a 4090 won't be enough for 4k/60fps (native) gaming in the next 1-2 years. All new Unreal 5 games coming out will crush all the GPUs as this game has. 4090 is not special, it is actually a future proof (next 3 years) 1440p 90-150fps card and not a 4k/60+fps card. It should cost 800 USD at most and 4080 16gb 550 USD at most. This is what the pricing for these mediocre cards should have been but the drought of last 3 years has made everyone think the GPUs should cost much higher for some reason. A 1080ti had 700 USD and it was a beast of a card for its time. It could play games in 4k-30-60fps. Then the mining boom + Nvidia greed, 2080ti cost 1200 all of a sudden despite not offering twice the jump from 1080ti. And now we are where we are.
En resumen, el futuro del gaming no es la resolución nativa sino el reescalado, y todo dependerá de quien sepa reescalar mejor los juegos si AMD o Nvidia
Remix is compatible with all RTX cards, and RTX card is only needed if you want to make mods with Remix. But mods made with Remix will work on every hardware out there (Both nVidia and AMD older cards included), only Ray Tracing portion of those mods will require RT capable card (Doesnt matter nVidia or AMD), but everything else will work just fine (Models, Textures, Lighting....), because only DX8 and DX9 games will work on Remix and huge amounts of hardware can run them more than good. So basically: If you are modder: RTX Card is a must If you are gamer and want mods including Ray Tracing effects: RT Capable card is must (nVidia, AMD or Intel) If you are gamer and want mods from Remix and dont care about Ray Tracing effects: Any GPU will do!
@@phelype211 240 vs 80 tensor cores. 30 vs 20 rt cores. You can guess which one works better with DLSS and ray tracing. Rtx 2060 lets you pay with ray tracing and dlss at 1080p and usually max settings, with the 3050 just forget about running ray tracing because its rt and tensor perfomance sucks. RTX remix is compatible with any RTX gpu. My suggestion? avoid both, as 2060 is limited by its 6gb vram (unless you get the super version with 8gb which is kind hard to find) and the rtx 3050 feels like a scam, with perfomance of a 2018 gpu and with "rtx" name just to fool people into thinking they can actually play games with rt at playable frame rates.
There is no deniying that DLSS bring a big uplift in preformance, but its impossible to see in a ultra compressed youtube video at what IQ price that is.
@@m1gu32011 jajajajaja, juego en 4k nativo y cuando lo bajas a 1440p si se pierde mucha cálidad, y el DLSS precisamente para eso es para evitar que esa cálidad que se pierda sea menos notoria pero aún así se pierde. DLSS es reescalado mi compa. aproveche el tema y lea acerca de ello para que no haga ridiculo
yo lo que puedo agregar teniendo una RTX series 2000 (arquitectura Turing) es que DLSS 2.4 (al menos hasta la fecha) los resultados son muy buenos realmente pero la sensacion al menos que tengo es un poco ambigua, gana en rendimiento pero no mucho y la imagen si bien cuesta distinguir de la nativa (literalmente con zoom x4 tenes que buscar las diferencias) todavia no han logrado eliminar el goshting (todavia muchas imagenes siguen con ese efector borroso y difuminado cuando estan en movimiento; hasta donde tenia entendido el problema radicaba en los vectores de movimiento.
Básicamente si porque el juego se renderiza en una resolución menor, las diferencias se reducen dependiendo de la resolución de salida, y el modo calidad es prácticamente igual que el renderizado nativo para resoluciones de 4k o mayores, pero con la ventaja de un taa mejorado ya que el juego se escala a una resolución de hasta 16k. El problema son los artifacts que se vuelven muy notorios si no juegas por lo menos a 2560x1440p
Este tipo de tecnologías quizá se aprecian mejor en persona. En mi caso en el vídeo lo veo raro por momentos, no me ha parecido espectacular, en algún momento sí lo veo bien, pero en otras ocasiones lo veo raro.
@@metalwolf501 no han confirmado nada, solo dijeron que era una tecnologia exclusiva de las rtx 4000, pero segun analisis, no es 100% limitado a hardware, y considerando que las rtx 4000 no vendan tanto debido al precio, el dlss 3 terminara llegando si o si a la 3000, y no soy el unico en apostar que sera asi
@@NicolasSilvaVasault seria agradable esa idea, pues no me agrada brincar por el momento a la serie 4000 por muchas y obvias razones, merecen más vida las series 3000
@@NicolasSilvaVasault Na, el incentivo de la serie 4000 es justamente el DLSS 3, al igual que FSR en AMD, DLSS2 ya está siendo mejorada para la mayoría de compatibilidad con tarjetas anteriores.
No sé por qué los youtubers nunca prueban la resolución nativa sin antialiasing. Es bien sabido que las técnicas de AA de postrocesado (TAA, FXAA, TEMPORAL, ETC) suelen emborronar la imagen nativa. Así ponen el DLSS como que no se ve mal, o que incluso mejor, pero por los filtros de enfoque y nitidez me parece que es sólo una estafa.
Pues si, sin dudas las imágenes son impresionantes pero quién puede darse el lujo de comprar un único aparato que es más grande y más caro que una consola, y además apesar de la mejoría un cambio que tu ojo diga BRUTAL, pues tampoco lo es tanto.
@@perdedores8 y ni eso no ha vista de que una Gama por debajo de 4080 aparezca al menos hasta dentro de medio año.......asi que tocara seguir conviviendo con la busqueda de una rtx30 a un precio "normal" o tirarse por algo de AMD.
Que increíble gráfica, con solo tener una ya tienes tu vida gamer resuelta porque supongo que el 99% de los juegos que existen los corre sin problemas y en ultra. Lo que si está interesante es esa interpolación de frames, ojala lo puedan añadir para la ps5 y la series x, así se alcanzarían 60fps estables para cualquier juego, aunque no sé si sera posible hacer eso. Igualmente está tremenda gráfica nos dice que ya estamos en el futuro y lo que está por llegar.
Está el FSR de AMD que se supondría la alternativa al DLSS pero con el avance de esa tecnología pues AMD se tiene que poner las pilas o Nvidia si de un milagro quiere hacer compatible su tecnología con consolas que lo dudo
los requisitos de este juego (plague tale) estan por las nubes, parece que es el primer juego en usar lumen, porque no me cabe en la cabeza como puede pedir en recomendado una rtx 3070 para jugar apenas a 1080p a 60fps
so is dlss 3 is an overall improvement from dlss 2 for every single RTX card or just the 4000 series because the new optical multi frame regeneration ?
RTX 40 series is the minimum, as it has more advanced OFA and much more tensor performance, that the 30 series doesn't have. It has to be implemented by the game developers, but adoption should be quick as it uses the same inputs as Dlss 2, so if Dlss 2 is implemented it is extremely easy to add frame generation.
@@ps4games164 Nope. It is motion interpolation, but much more advanced than TVs. For several reason, including: 1) MUCH more powerful hardware 2) Access to game engine info such as motion vectors. This makes a BIG difference, and as such Dlss 3 is much much better than TV interpolation.
@@ps4games164 It is bound to have imperfections, and it's hard to judge without testing it in person, but it for sure is gonna be better than what your TV does for the reasons explained in the previous comment. You may see glitchiness, but much less than with your TV.
Lets be honest : a plague tale Requiem's graphics are awesome for the first 10 chapters, and then it suddenly become a PS4 game for the last 7 chapters.
Por el precio que vale el pc que monta esta gráfica te compras las dos consolas de esta generación, y de las siguientes dos más si es que las hay 😂😂 que está muy bien pero el precio se ha ido de madre completamente
Con esas consolas no tienes ni para empezar, a diferencia de la locura que ofrece esa grafica, necesitarias 10 ps5 o 7.5 series X para igualarla en rasterizado, sin meter raytracing ni dlss... por 3000€ tienes un equipo con esa gráfica, lo que va a rentar para el gamer comun son las gamas mas bajas, a partir de la 3070 para abajo.
@@4_SJR y aun asi las consolas son las que marcan el paso,ya puedes tener el pc mas potente del mundo que los juegos los optimizan para consola y esa potencia del pc luego no lo es tanto.
Yo que tengo pc y Xbox serie s, yo la verdad que estoy muy contento con mi pc ya que tengo una rtx 2060, pero claro. Ahora mismo las gráficas están muy caras. Yo por eso me pillé la serie s que me puede ir a 2K o 1080p encima me costó 189 euros la consola así que genial con ella y encima de nueva generación a ese precio
@@byjoshucod5040 pero si la series S es como una 1060 y la 2060 con dlss es mejor que una series X y te lo dice alguien que estudio ingieneria informática en hardware, la series S es una castaña muy grande, no la recomiendo en absoluto, los desarrolladores no la quieren ni en pintura, es de todo menos next gen
la quiero, pero venderé antes mi pc y lo comprare todo nuevo para este targeton, con mi i9 9900k actual tendré mucho cuello botella, mejor vender pc y comprar toda la máquina nueva
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DLSS 3 is absolutely insane. The ideas Nvidia is implementing are really creative. For single player games this is massive.
Deberían sacar dlss 3 en serie 3000
If only the prices of these cards where as amazing as their features.
I was worried about the price alot. My kidney wasn't enough to buy it, but then a revelation came to me "sacrifice the children instead of yourself, indeed that is the best way to achieve what you desire".
Selling kidneys isn't enough anymore, now you gotta nap them kids and depending on who's kid it is there will be a larger bounty on your head.
But hey atleast I got the GPU now
@@quartermaster2809 Ahah x)
wait 4 years
this kind of perfomace will be availabe at 500$ card
that's how cutting edge technolgy works
They are as amazing as their features.
Amazingly high prices🤣
@@Ghost-pb4ts in 4 years dlss 4 will be out and everyone will want that instead
It's a technology that's really needed in the console
pray to amd right now lol console peasant.
lol fr
this GPU has 80 Tflops, ps5 gpu has like 10, around 11
Consoles are AMD. AMD needs to do smth similiar, consoles cant use dlss
Well , some games does support amd fsr on consoles
@@Ieokk 90* my friend
I'm interested in DLSS QUALITY mode + frame generation. With this card you hardly gonna use performance.
Or maybe native + frame generation
@@anuzahyder7185 interesting too, but I think dlss quality most times look the same or even better than native. I will certainly use at least quality dlss turning on and off frame generation depending on the game.
@@MisterRhul i wudnt say better but v close to native in cyberpunk. Btw i dont see any dlss3 option, probably need to wait for developers to make it available to actual games.
I agree. I LOVE AI cheating but the final image quality must match or exceed what it is replacing... please do a DLSS Quality video.
@@anuzahyder7185 it is the best AA with better performance and latency without any loss of detail. Sometimes it is a little blurry or with less contrast, just a little, but most of the time it is even better. Depends on the implementation. I always prefer DLSS quality than any AA. When performance is a problem or even when it is not a issue, but downsampling still too heavy... are golden scenarios.
The next step is a neural network that can add DETAIL in real-time to objects in the game world, sort of like deepfakes but for environments, so trees in the distance can be great looking because they aren't in fact rendered, just added by the AI instead which is a lot cheaper! Or those low-poly, low-texture mountains that look god awful, those can be fixed too!
Unreal Engine 5.1 has kinda sort of solution of that
Probably doesn't need AI. Epic's Nanite already kinda resolves that.
I can feel that without dlss in some game it does looks sharper than dlss 3.0 turned on especially when the character is moving
Image quality and framerate is one thing.
I'm more interested to know how bad frame times and frame skipping is with DLSS 3.0
Should be literally the same as "native" or DLSS 2 framerate with visual improvements/artifacts from interpolation of DLSS 3 on top.
Kinda eye-candy, but useless from the gameplay side IMO.
@@J0rdan912 it also solve CPU bottleneck.
No frame skipping and frametime is much less, as you can see. You probably is worry about input lag, but Digital Foundry review stopped with all nonsense and proves that input lag will be better than no DLSS at all and similar to DLSS2 without frame generation.
Whys there no dlss 3 in rtx 3000 cards? Is it cause they are weak?
Recently got 3060 and its sad af
Digital Foundry have already responded that. Not bad at all.
It’s a good upgrade over DLSS 2.0 but not necessary. Though if you have a 4K120Hz screen and play with mouse + max RT, yeah, this card will deliver there.
it’s good if you get 4060 .4070
This is BS on Cyberpunk with DLSS3.0 performance you could get 180fps with DLSS3.0 quality you get 110fps
@@lenagoddess2367 did you not watch the video? CP2077 around 120fps DLSS 3 on performance, at 4K. And maxed out rt, as I mentioned.
I don't getting this. How is this even possible? First of all DLSS with no image quality impact blown my mind when it came, but even generating new frames without ghosting and input lag? This is literally next level!!! And combination with G synch technology? Oh my god what combo!!!!!
There is image quality impact and ghosting with DLSS 1-2, same goes to DLSS 3. Everything "next level" stuff comes at the cost if it's software, not hardware. Average cross-platform singleplayer games probably will be fine with that, but esports, details or skill demanding games will suffer a lot from those downsides.
Damn, you're cringe bro lol
@@J0rdan912 esports games are not that demanding to use Upscaling tech anyway. you can always use lowest settings for advantage ingame.
Samsung game motion plus had generating new frames without ghosting and input lag since 2018...
Im an insane pixel detail person but I couldnt find any difference between Native and DLSS3, amazing! I only noticed in DLSS3 the shadows are a liiiittle bit whiter than Native
what about at 2:05 with the food stand. I'm seeing something weird with the little grass stuff in the middle of the bottom shelf. I wonder what's causing the left to appear so clear compared to the other two. It is just following comments about ray tracing but not sure. In real speed i wouldn't have noticed but i paused to see what the difference's could be in this clip.
Great work man. Really helps with identifying the difference
As RTX 3080 user, i'm still disappointed that DLSS 3 is for RTX 40XX only. But this is true that DLSS 3 is the future and works great. I hope Nvidia will release it later for RTX 30XX or even 20XX. Thanks for great comparison!
Sadly, it's a hardware limitation.
Glad I didn't buy the 30series
@@ardi1606 not really
@@ardi1606 not really, heard abt fsr 3.0? It will be available for all GPU like previous versions
@@krspy1337 fsr is software based i think but nvidia is AI hardware based.
What's crazy to me is that no one is talking about the increase in latency with DLSS 3.
Image scaling option from Nvidia Control Panel for 2K and 4K resolution can drastically improve the overall image quality and potential ghosting if its done carefully. I recommend using between 20-25% increase for 2K resolution and between 12-15% for 4K. If you are using additional ENB and shaders, make sure to adjust number accordingly.
25 percent increase of what? #
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It seems like some fidelity/visual graphics is sacrificed. No dlss looks more cleaner and less blurry. In still positions atleast.
El futuro del Gaming en PC se ve demasiado caro y poco accesible Xd
Why only performance mode? I'm curious how it looks like in quality or balanced mode too
thanks, you always pinpoint most interesting details
I have 3080.
60% or so more powerful than PS5 and Series X without factoring in DLSS and FSR.
PS5 and Series X would make me happy for their entire generation if not longer.
But for reasons I got PC instead.
So I think that as sweet as Frame Generation is,me and most of my 3080 DLSS2 brothers and sisters shall be fine for many years to come.
yeah you don't need an upgrade. I've been saving slowly for years to get a nice pc so i may get the 4080 12gb once that's out along with a 5800x3d. Only have 1440p 144hz so i'd hope that card could manage it.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe
I recomend that you consider 12700K instead IF you are building from the ground up .
It is nearly as awesome as 5800X3D in games and B660 and Z690 Boards shall be compatible with 13000 series as well, without the need to change motherboard and RAM should you decide to upgrade.
And 13000 Series will/should be a lot more powerful than 5000 series and probably more powerful than Ryzen 7000 or about the same.
So 12700K+some very good B660 should futureproof you more than 5800X3D and any AM4 motherboard.
I purchased my MSI RTX3080 12GB Gaming Z Trio maybe a month ago.
Not because I lacked patience,but because all the price rumors and PSU requirments and stuff in combination with the inflation potentially raising prices of 3000 Series again,were
all immensely
stressful to me.
So I pulled a trigger on it.
It was 100€ cheaper than 10gigs version.🤣
@@GameslordXY 4080 12gb is apparently 285w and will perform better than 3090. I suppose your right I should get Intel instead I just wonder if I'd need ddr5 or not because they seem to support both.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe
There are DDR4 and DDR5 Boards for Intel 12000 yes.
But they are different products.
A Board that supports DDR4,does not support DDR5 and vise versa.
There are benchmarks out there probably that show differences.
DDR5 isn't as expensive as it used to be,but I do wonder if just any DDR5 is worth it.
Depending on your budget,going DDR5 might not be terrible option,even if it costs you 50 - 100$ more .
There is a rumor that DDR5 dramatically increases RT performanse on 3000 Series cards
Is it True?
I have no idea.
But if True,it would be worth it imo... depending on the budget
Intel 13000 should be out this year I think,so if you can wait... .
You might also consider Ryzen 7000 since its out.
And AMD shall unleash RDNA3 very soon.
@@GameslordXY I probably won't build the pc for 6 months. Aiming to save up £2500 and I'm almost there so all of these products will be out on the market by then so I'll be able to make decisions then. I'm interested in nvidia due to the frame generation tech and very good Ray tracing performance and I doubt amd will be able to match this.
Stellar video. Thank you for your hard work!
12:29 ps5 vs RTX 4090 and 14:44 Xbox series x vs RTX 4090
Absolutely amazing... Frame generation is clearly the future.
yes it is 😌
I hope not, nothing can replace the real framerate and native screen resolution precision.
@@J0rdan912 lol people said the same thing about real time image upscaling, yet here we are with so many upscalers available to use and everyone likes them.
Plus TAA used in most games is horrible, native TAA already kills out the details that can be otherwise seen in native resolution. Temporal upscalers for this reason give better screen details than native, upscalers have a better TAA to replace the native one so that point of yours is irrelevant.
@@quartermaster2809 "many upscalers available to use and everyone likes them"
Ultimate argument. Can't beat it.
"Temporal upscalers for this reason give better screen details than native."
Oh, really. That's new.
@@J0rdan912 Native Screen resolution it's right but framerate i doubt
Parece que todos los que están haciendo review de esta 4090 se olvidaron de testear juegos como Control, Dying Light 2 o Metro Exodus, tres de los juegos que junto con Cyberpunk 2077 son los que mejor implementan el trazado de rayos y exigen al máximo la gpu. Una pena que los hayan dejado fuera. Curioso. Por otra parte, te recomiendo usar Nvidia Profile Inspector, hacer un perfil con los juegos que menciono o que tengan DLSS y activar en el menú de dicho programa el LOD Bias DX en -3.000, mejorará notablemente la nitidez en cualquiera de los modos del DLSS al nivel de Death Stranding que sí lo tiene implementado de forma nativa. Pero parece que tanto los programadores de los videjuegos como los tester se han olvidado de ello.
La pregunta es si los juegos que mencionas tienen soporte para DLSS3
Me gusto que en la comparativa de las consolas pusieras la configuración gráfica equivalente a la del PC 👍🏻
De que hablas estas wey
Solo es el dlss
Los 15 minutos mas largos de mi vida :)
Demencial el curro y el trabajo de este hombre, es un 11/10
Se ve mayor input lag al usar dlss 3 o realmente es magia negra?
Frame Generation aumenta considerablemente el input lag, DLSS 3 solo no
Lo lógico sería pensar que sí, sin embargo, Frame Generation se apoya en Nvidia Reflex para paliar el input lag a la hora de interpolar los frames sin que la latencia sufra de forma apreciable.
Sinceramente, Nvidia se la ha sacado. A ver cual es el siguiente paso con DLSS 4 pero esto ya es brutal, imaginaros que se pudiera implementar vía drivers para hacerlo funcionar en todos los juegos....
Even a 4090 won't be enough for 4k/60fps (native) gaming in the next 1-2 years. All new Unreal 5 games coming out will crush all the GPUs as this game has.
4090 is not special, it is actually a future proof (next 3 years) 1440p 90-150fps card and not a 4k/60+fps card.
It should cost 800 USD at most and 4080 16gb 550 USD at most.
This is what the pricing for these mediocre cards should have been but the drought of last 3 years has made everyone think the GPUs should cost much higher for some reason.
A 1080ti had 700 USD and it was a beast of a card for its time. It could play games in 4k-30-60fps.
Then the mining boom + Nvidia greed, 2080ti cost 1200 all of a sudden despite not offering twice the jump from 1080ti.
And now we are where we are.
Amazing video!
En resumen, el futuro del gaming no es la resolución nativa sino el reescalado, y todo dependerá de quien sepa reescalar mejor los juegos si AMD o Nvidia
Agradecido con el esfuerzo en este video...
My god this visuals are insane
So it means that 4k 144Hz is possible with RTX 4090 & DLSS 3
Lastima que en las consolas de nueva generación no se pudo colocar algún tipo de dlss,es increíble el Boost que da
porque no tienen tensor cores, veremos a ver las siguientes consolas
Bueno, está el FSR de AMD, pero aún no gana al DLSS.
@@kiwami64 y nunca le va a ganar pero es una buena alternativa
Es tecnología propiedad de nvidia, las consolas tienen chips AMD, que utilizan el FSR que al ser por software se puede actualizar con el tiempo.
@@bbbazzinga lo sé, pero quien sabe si deciden cambiarse a nvidia jeje
Plague tale looking beautiful can't wait to play it.
So, REMIX is compatible only with 40 & 30 series, right?
20 series are not supported
A big motive to not buy a 2060, but a 3050 instead
Remix is compatible with all RTX cards, and RTX card is only needed if you want to make mods with Remix.
But mods made with Remix will work on every hardware out there (Both nVidia and AMD older cards included), only Ray Tracing portion of those mods will require RT capable card (Doesnt matter nVidia or AMD), but everything else will work just fine (Models, Textures, Lighting....), because only DX8 and DX9 games will work on Remix and huge amounts of hardware can run them more than good.
So basically:
If you are modder: RTX Card is a must
If you are gamer and want mods including Ray Tracing effects: RT Capable card is must (nVidia, AMD or Intel)
If you are gamer and want mods from Remix and dont care about Ray Tracing effects: Any GPU will do!
2060 is far more powerful than a 3050 though. It's not even close.
@@gersongaete1574 "far more powerful"
you really really exaggerated...
it's just a little faster...
@@phelype211 240 vs 80 tensor cores. 30 vs 20 rt cores. You can guess which one works better with DLSS and ray tracing. Rtx 2060 lets you pay with ray tracing and dlss at 1080p and usually max settings, with the 3050 just forget about running ray tracing because its rt and tensor perfomance sucks. RTX remix is compatible with any RTX gpu. My suggestion? avoid both, as 2060 is limited by its 6gb vram (unless you get the super version with 8gb which is kind hard to find) and the rtx 3050 feels like a scam, with perfomance of a 2018 gpu and with "rtx" name just to fool people into thinking they can actually play games with rt at playable frame rates.
There is no deniying that DLSS bring a big uplift in preformance, but its impossible to see in a ultra compressed youtube video at what IQ price that is.
Una pregunta desde la ignorancia... ¿con el dlss se pierde calidad de imagen?
si, es reescalado. al momento que te digan juego en 4k con DLSS están mintiendo pues sería reescalado
@@germansherman7707 No sabes nada y en tu vida has tocado una RTX.. En 4k la calidad de imagen no se pierde unicamente si juegas en 1440p o 1080p
@@m1gu32011 jajajajaja, juego en 4k nativo y cuando lo bajas a 1440p si se pierde mucha cálidad, y el DLSS precisamente para eso es para evitar que esa cálidad que se pierda sea menos notoria pero aún así se pierde. DLSS es reescalado mi compa.
aproveche el tema y lea acerca de ello para que no haga ridiculo
yo lo que puedo agregar teniendo una RTX series 2000 (arquitectura Turing) es que DLSS 2.4 (al menos hasta la fecha) los resultados son muy buenos realmente pero la sensacion al menos que tengo es un poco ambigua, gana en rendimiento pero no mucho y la imagen si bien cuesta distinguir de la nativa (literalmente con zoom x4 tenes que buscar las diferencias) todavia no han logrado eliminar el goshting (todavia muchas imagenes siguen con ese efector borroso y difuminado cuando estan en movimiento; hasta donde tenia entendido el problema radicaba en los vectores de movimiento.
Básicamente si porque el juego se renderiza en una resolución menor, las diferencias se reducen dependiendo de la resolución de salida, y el modo calidad es prácticamente igual que el renderizado nativo para resoluciones de 4k o mayores, pero con la ventaja de un taa mejorado ya que el juego se escala a una resolución de hasta 16k. El problema son los artifacts que se vuelven muy notorios si no juegas por lo menos a 2560x1440p
Este tipo de tecnologías quizá se aprecian mejor en persona. En mi caso en el vídeo lo veo raro por momentos, no me ha parecido espectacular, en algún momento sí lo veo bien, pero en otras ocasiones lo veo raro.
Justamente me parece que el sentido es que no se note diferencia en cuanto a la calidad de imagen pero que el rendimiento sea superior.
Me conformo sabiendo que tengo DLSS 2 :')
creeme que el dlss 3.0 va a terminar llegando a la serie 3000, lo firmo
@@NicolasSilvaVasault ya confirmaron que no, pero si prometieron que trataran de mejorar el dlss 2.0
@@metalwolf501 no han confirmado nada, solo dijeron que era una tecnologia exclusiva de las rtx 4000, pero segun analisis, no es 100% limitado a hardware, y considerando que las rtx 4000 no vendan tanto debido al precio, el dlss 3 terminara llegando si o si a la 3000, y no soy el unico en apostar que sera asi
@@NicolasSilvaVasault seria agradable esa idea, pues no me agrada brincar por el momento a la serie 4000 por muchas y obvias razones, merecen más vida las series 3000
@@NicolasSilvaVasault Na, el incentivo de la serie 4000 es justamente el DLSS 3, al igual que FSR en AMD, DLSS2 ya está siendo mejorada para la mayoría de compatibilidad con tarjetas anteriores.
Creo que a plague tale Réquiem será el juego que se usara de referencia cuando busquemos algo next gen. Luce a otro nivel
hasta la fecha lo único next gen mostrado es matrix y forspoken quienes usarán unreal 5
Hasta ahora la demo de Matrix es lo mas resaltante.
@@germansherman7707 forspoken no, el matrix si
@@Chunpokomon pero no vale pues es una peli interactiva
Impresionante trabajo. Muchas gracias
Is this placebo or 60fps is also looking smoother with dlss 3.0?
A plague tale requiem is the best looking game ever
horizon forbidden west laughs in the face!
@@RandyOrton.well we will laugh when its coming to PC soon after recent announcement.. poor sony pony with no exclusives to play xD
No sé por qué los youtubers nunca prueban la resolución nativa sin antialiasing. Es bien sabido que las técnicas de AA de postrocesado (TAA, FXAA, TEMPORAL, ETC) suelen emborronar la imagen nativa. Así ponen el DLSS como que no se ve mal, o que incluso mejor, pero por los filtros de enfoque y nitidez me parece que es sólo una estafa.
El futuro, sí, porque ahora es tan caro que es imposible 😂
Genial comparativa, pero sinceramente, para que ver lo que no me voy a poder permitir porque la 4060 va a valer fácilmente 600€?
Pues si, sin dudas las imágenes son impresionantes pero quién puede darse el lujo de comprar un único aparato que es más grande y más caro que una consola, y además apesar de la mejoría un cambio que tu ojo diga BRUTAL, pues tampoco lo es tanto.
@@perdedores8 y ni eso no ha vista de que una Gama por debajo de 4080 aparezca al menos hasta dentro de medio año.......asi que tocara seguir conviviendo con la busqueda de una rtx30 a un precio "normal" o tirarse por algo de AMD.
Que increíble gráfica, con solo tener una ya tienes tu vida gamer resuelta porque supongo que el 99% de los juegos que existen los corre sin problemas y en ultra.
Lo que si está interesante es esa interpolación de frames, ojala lo puedan añadir para la ps5 y la series x, así se alcanzarían 60fps estables para cualquier juego, aunque no sé si sera posible hacer eso.
Igualmente está tremenda gráfica nos dice que ya estamos en el futuro y lo que está por llegar.
Si, luego ves los precios de casi 2500€ por una 4090 de Asus, y xD
Está el FSR de AMD que se supondría la alternativa al DLSS pero con el avance de esa tecnología pues AMD se tiene que poner las pilas o Nvidia si de un milagro quiere hacer compatible su tecnología con consolas que lo dudo
Absolutely amazing...
buongiorno, thnx for the video, why did u use dlss performance? And can we use quality mod in dlss 3 ?
hello good to see your video!! May I use this video for my power point presentationin my univercsity assignment??
Mmm nice!! Can you confirm which RT features being utilised in plague tale 2?
Awesome video
at 9:07 look to the face and eyes quality with dlss 3
Isn't the same?
Muy bonito todo, pero el próximo año se sacarán algo nuevo de la manga y la 4090 va a ser "obsoleta". xd
los requisitos de este juego (plague tale) estan por las nubes, parece que es el primer juego en usar lumen, porque no me cabe en la cabeza como puede pedir en recomendado una rtx 3070 para jugar apenas a 1080p a 60fps
A de ser con raytracing al máximo, esa basura consume más de lo que aporta....
@@killermatico27 es un juego hecho en unreal engine 5, apuesto a que tiene lumen, pero puede ser que metieron todo con ray tracing
8:25 shimers like crazy
guys, go get this game. absoultely amazing
How is the dlss3 input lag, is it noticable? Do 140fps feel like 140fps while moving mouse, if u get what I mean?
Congrats on getting early access 👍
Whats the the name of the music (first 10min of video)?
I know it's made by Zeravi but what's the name of the song???
The definition of work smarter not harder lol
...why didn't you include frame timings in your showcase?
Beautiful!
Are you working on specification?
I5
Rx580 8gb
Ram12g
con estas tecnologías, ya no le veo sentido a la resolución nativa.
so is dlss 3 is an overall improvement from dlss 2 for every single RTX card or just the 4000 series because the new optical multi frame regeneration ?
Only for rtx 40xx not like fsr 3.0 which be available for all gpus again as previous versions
Wow! Things like that should be on consoles, it would help them a lot.
Tell me about the frame generation. How it is possible? What components and software one must have? I'm seriously asking.
RTX 40 series is the minimum, as it has more advanced OFA and much more tensor performance, that the 30 series doesn't have.
It has to be implemented by the game developers, but adoption should be quick as it uses the same inputs as Dlss 2, so if Dlss 2 is implemented it is extremely easy to add frame generation.
@@paulustrucenus
Isn't that motion interpolation the same way the top tvs does?
@@ps4games164 Nope.
It is motion interpolation, but much more advanced than TVs.
For several reason, including:
1) MUCH more powerful hardware
2) Access to game engine info such as motion vectors.
This makes a BIG difference, and as such Dlss 3 is much much better than TV interpolation.
@@paulustrucenus
Does it make glitchy frames? Every interpolated frame of my Sony is glitchy. (still do good job tho, 24-30fps causing me headache)
@@ps4games164 It is bound to have imperfections, and it's hard to judge without testing it in person, but it for sure is gonna be better than what your TV does for the reasons explained in the previous comment. You may see glitchiness, but much less than with your TV.
Still prefer native resolution without any AA Implemented. But nowadays most PC games have TAA + PP forced😔
Agree
Why is no one testing DLSS Quality ? Why only performance ?
NVIDIA said fk everybody and went overkill this card is a beast
Vivimos en el futuro.
What cpu are you using?
Man why are there no videos about old cars for this
I find DLSS 3.0 does look or feel great in spiderman remastered, even at 120fps. It is better at 60FPS, Native, with V-Sync.
...quality? 😉👍👌
Lets be honest : a plague tale Requiem's graphics are awesome for the first 10 chapters, and then it suddenly become a PS4 game for the last 7 chapters.
Se nota incluso desde el móvil que emborrona la imagen. Aún así,muy buena tecnología
Obviamente se va a ver borroso si está en modo performance y no en calidad
@@TecnoWil claro que es obvio,pero luego te venden que va a 4K a 180fps
What are the other specs of the PC?
Por el precio que vale el pc que monta esta gráfica te compras las dos consolas de esta generación, y de las siguientes dos más si es que las hay 😂😂 que está muy bien pero el precio se ha ido de madre completamente
Con esas consolas no tienes ni para empezar, a diferencia de la locura que ofrece esa grafica, necesitarias 10 ps5 o 7.5 series X para igualarla en rasterizado, sin meter raytracing ni dlss... por 3000€ tienes un equipo con esa gráfica, lo que va a rentar para el gamer comun son las gamas mas bajas, a partir de la 3070 para abajo.
@@4_SJR y aun asi las consolas son las que marcan el paso,ya puedes tener el pc mas potente del mundo que los juegos los optimizan para consola y esa potencia del pc luego no lo es tanto.
Yo que tengo pc y Xbox serie s, yo la verdad que estoy muy contento con mi pc ya que tengo una rtx 2060, pero claro. Ahora mismo las gráficas están muy caras. Yo por eso me pillé la serie s que me puede ir a 2K o 1080p encima me costó 189 euros la consola así que genial con ella y encima de nueva generación a ese precio
@@byjoshucod5040 pero si la series S es como una 1060 y la 2060 con dlss es mejor que una series X y te lo dice alguien que estudio ingieneria informática en hardware, la series S es una castaña muy grande, no la recomiendo en absoluto, los desarrolladores no la quieren ni en pintura, es de todo menos next gen
@@4_SJR la 2060 tiene 6gb de ram de video que es muy poco para los juegos actuales es una tarjeta obsoleta
What ray tracing does plague tale requiem use
PC will always be the best!
espera, la 4090 no puede con cyberpunk a 4k?
NVIDIA: DLSS3 is nice
Customer: Ok, what I need to do for my card I purchased one year ago for $1k?
NVIDIA: throw away and buy a new one
🤪
No subirás el f1 2022 Xbox series x/s vs ps5?
Ese juego se ve bien fresco mi pana. Merece la pena?
Tu canal es grandioso sinceramente , saludos desde la inflada y pobre Argentina :)
So in raw performance without dlss is get only 38 frames in cyberpunk?
Es exclusivo para las nuevas rtx 4000
O saldrá también para la serie 3000?
4000 unicamente
Saldrá en rtx 3000 pero no rendira tanto pero salir saldrá
@@eyllox454 Sooner or later, it is marketing move.
si saldra, pero tardara bastante, lo meteran por un update de software pero no sera tan eficiente como las 4x
rtx 4000 ONLY
What is the name of the beat you are using for background i wanna know
Hi, I have the RTX 4090 and I don't get any dlss 3 help options.
how will xbox stand against the dlss3
plz make a comparison of xbox vs 4090 plague tale
i can tell dlss when take a look closer it bit blurry, native still better looking for me.
how did u test dlss 2.0 on rtx 4090?
Too fast. We are gonna need some more demanding games.
Too bad Nvidia keep prices so high otherwise i would buy one already. Was thinking 4070 before their release but at that price its a nono
la quiero, pero venderé antes mi pc y lo comprare todo nuevo para este targeton, con mi i9 9900k actual tendré mucho cuello botella, mejor vender pc y comprar toda la máquina nueva
And we dont need 200 in sigle player gamr..... Also shouldnot invest 2000$ for only gpu
Ps5 / SeriesX for 500€ and the quality is really similar (60fps is so good)